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	== Messages from ] (] '''·''' ]) ==
	'''Adoption Request:''' Hi Casliber, I saw your name of the list users offering adoption. I've been a WP for about 2 months, editing anonymously. I created a user name because of all the benefits. So far I think I know the "basic" stuff like a bit of wiki markup, making articles, e.t.c. I'd like to learn some of the advanced stuff. Is it possible for you to adopt me? Regards. ] (] '''·''' ]) 14:38, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
	Hi Casliber! Thanks for accepting my adoption request. Your help and assistance will be of great value to me.
	My main interest is article writing as well as article editing. I intend to contribute primarily to Computer science and engineering related articles as well as Hinduism-related articles (esp. ]). Apart from that I will indulge in rectification of grammatical errors, etc. of all articles (that I read). I stay in New York and I plain to be on WP from 10pm to 11pm EST (minus 4 hours from GMT).
	I also have 2 questions to ask:
	# I know certain users and all administrators have a rollback feature. From the description of the feature on the ] page it seems that what it does can also be performed in a more "manual" way by ordinary users. To rollback several edits, you could click on the older version you want to revert to, then click "edit" and save the page like that. So how does thisrolback feature differ from what I described? Or is my understanding of rollback incorrect?
	# Suppose a page I created and put a lot of effort in writing it gets deleted. If I re-create the page, can I get back my work from the revision history; ie. if a deleted page is re-created, is the revision history of the previously deleted page restored?
	Thanks! ] (] '''·''' ]) 15:39, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
	In answer to your questions - yes, rollback is like the undo feature but more convenient. Regarding the second question, it is a straightforward fix. What an admin do is momentarily undelete the page and ''Move'' the page, complete with history, to userspace. I have done this before, so ask me if it happens. One way to preempt questions of notability is to begin an build on an article substantially on a ''draft'' page. I will make one for you if you don't already have one. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:20, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
	I am primarily interested in expanding each ''parvan'' in the ] into seperate dedicated articles. Just for a short intro, the ] is an important Hindu scripture. It consists of 18 books called "parvans". Translations of each parvan can be found . So I'll be making 18 articles for each parvan, but as of now I have only one reference which is the one above. I'm also rather sure that they deserve seperate articles since Misplaced Pages does have articles for each book of the Bible, Quran, ] e.t.c. What do you think?
	Additionally I have some doubts regarding your previously reply. Firstly, is a draft page a page created temporarily in something like a user sandbox? Secondly, You said an admin undeletes a page and moves it to userspace. Did you mean mainspace?
	Cheers! ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:08, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
	:Yes, a draft page is a sandbox like you have done. It is in userspace. You can make any number of articles in userspace as subarticles of your userpage. Thus I would move article 'X' to 'User:Arjun G. Menon/X' (i.e. userspace). Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:06, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
	::Thankyou. I will work on the draft page you have made for me. I have not yet read the translations of the parvans. I will read the parvans & summarize them for the article. Cheers. ] (] '''·''' ]) 14:20, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
	::Great. I can check your progress as you go. Once you have some commentary and references as well as a plot summary, I can let you know when and how to move it to article space (with the history preserved) Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 14:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
	:::I think it would be nice to create stub articles for the parvans and then work on them in mainspace. Pros are the articles will all have discussion pages & people will start noticing them (after I linkify the parvan titles in the Mahabharata) and therefore contribute to them. Is this possible or will the stub pages get deleted? ] (] '''·''' ]) 21:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
	::::You can try. I like it that way better, but I am wary of overzealous deleters patrolling. OK, let's do it that way and I will keep an eye on it. It encourages others to drop in and help. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 21:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
	Hi Casliber. Sorry for the lack of communication. I was busy with college (started on 2nd), and never really got much time to read the parvans. Those parvans are really lengthy and it will be quite some time before I finish the first. I've decided to refocus my editing to CS articles for the time being. If I need any help, I'll ask you. Cheers! ] (] '''·''' ]) 02:33, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
	:I recently uploaded image for the ]. I believe the author has made it public domain, but could you verify please... ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
	::I don't know of any link releasing the image to the public domain, its basically a that ] has uses in his site's Arc page. Paul has also got a page on his site dedicated to : which dates the chair to 1947. I recently got ] notice regarding the image. My guesses are the image is public. Do we have to prove this? What do you think? Cheers. ] (] '''·''' ]) 04:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
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	I wanted to add a userbox for my university (SUNY Stony Brook / ]), so I took a look at ], but couldn't find it listed there. How do I create one for it? ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)</s>
	:I've figured out how and made a couple. ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
	I have a another small (unrelated) question to ask you. Is it OK to upoad to whatever images I like on Misplaced Pages, as long as I'm the one who created. I have created a page ] where I would like to put up photos of me. I'm talking about creating a photo album on WP's servers. These images won't be used in articles and stuff, they are mostly family photos (and I don't mind releasing them to the public domain). So is using WP to host one's personal photo album against the rules? Cheers. ] (] '''·''' ]) 14:20, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
	Hi Casliber! I'd like to know whether images taken from Google Maps <!--RHIC--> can be unploded onto Misplaced Pages. I also ran into trouble for the recent I uploaded for ]. Cheers. ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
	:Hi Casliber. Regarding the logo; you said don't use Fair Use for userboxes. My quesiton is, which license/copyright-notice whould be used on such images (non-free images inteded only to be used in userboxes) ? (BTW, I've uploaded a for the userbox in question, so this one won't be used. Just wanted to know how the system works.) Cheers. ] (] '''·''' ]) ..? ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
	It's true, swoopo does indeed deserve an article, especially considering the controversy that surrounds it. I just googled swoopo and came across a list of news articles, blogs, interviews, e.t.c. about it. (most of them focus on the controversial aspect). Neverthless, can these suffice as means to prove the notability of swoopo? Can I use the links (obtained from googling swoopo) as sources for the proposed article? Thanks. Cheers. ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:06, 20 October 2008 (UTC) ..? ] (] '''·''' ]) 02:45, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
	:Searched Google News for "Swoopo", could not find any articles on it from UK national newspaper. There was only one ] from the UK, but the subject of its article is something totally different and only mentions Swoopo in a passing. There are a couple of articles on it from the Technologizer although. ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:11, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
	Hi Casliber. I'll certainly contact the people at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard and ask them for advice, once I finsih writing the article. Thanks for pointing me there. BTW, I tried moving ] to ], but it seems that the ] (redirect page) needs to be deleted first, before I can move my page to it. Could you delete the redirect article ] for me? Thanks. ] (] '''·''' ]) 00:32, 24 October 2008 (UTC) ... ] (] '''·''' ]) 21:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
	:Thanks! ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:32, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
	Hi Casliber! I was checking out an article's history today, and I notice that the external tool "Revision History Statistics" has been replaced by "Enhanced revision history". I found the older tool, a lot lot more useful/better than the new one. I was wondering, if you have an idea as to what happened. Cheers! ] (] '''·''' ]) 09:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
	:The name has been changed to back to "Revision History Statistics", but the actual tool remains the same. Any idea what happened? ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:44, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
	== More unIDed fungi ==
	G'day Cas,
	I've been frogging over the past few days, and the fungi season has definitely started! I have a coral fungi that I thought you would like for wiki, plus I also have a puff ball which I will upload later, will leave a message here when it is uploaded. Saw lots of fungi over the last few days, but only photographed the really interesting ones as I was using my small memory card, and wanted to leave some space for frogs.
	http://www.flickr.com/photos/52507572@N00/465979784/?rotated=1&cb=1177065560324
	Thanks. --] 10:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
	:There was another nearby (about half a metre) which was 8cm tall, so I would go with ''Ramaria lorithamnus''. It was taken in rainforest, was very little Eucalypt around. Do you want me to upload it to wiki? Thanks. --] 11:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
	== Nomenclature of fungi ==		== Nomenclature of fungi ==
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	Hey there. I recently stumbled across an issue of ''Nova Hedwigia Beheift'' titled "the genera of fungi" (or was it agaricaceae?). It's filled to the brink with mind-numbing nomenclatural discussions of all the genera ever described (I think, anyway). Would it be any use if I looked up the specific ref or any specific genera? ] 00:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)		Hey there. I recently stumbled across an issue of ''Nova Hedwigia Beheift'' titled "the genera of fungi" (or was it agaricaceae?). It's filled to the brink with mind-numbing nomenclatural discussions of all the genera ever described (I think, anyway). Would it be any use if I looked up the specific ref or any specific genera? ] 00:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
	:That would be friggin' ''trés bién''. The first one that would be absolutely great to get a clarification on is '']'' which was called ''Psalliota'' in many texts fro many years and I've been mystified as to why. Other articles I intend cleaning up are '']'', which is the one I intended taking to FA first but it just didn't come together well, '']'' as a future FA, '']'' as a future FA, and cleaning up the destroying angels - '']'', '']'' and '']''. '']'' would be a good one to check too. let me know if anything interesting pops up. I'll see ifd I can think of any other taxonomic quagmires later today. Work just got real busy :( cheers, ] | ] | ] 02:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)		:That would be friggin' ''trés bién''. The first one that would be absolutely great to get a clarification on is '']'' which was called ''Psalliota'' in many texts fro many years and I've been mystified as to why. Other articles I intend cleaning up are '']'', which is the one I intended taking to FA first but it just didn't come together well, '']'' as a future FA, '']'' as a future FA, and cleaning up the destroying angels – '']'', '']'' and '']''. '']'' would be a good one to check too. let me know if anything interesting pops up. I'll see ifd I can think of any other taxonomic quagmires later today. Work just got real busy :( cheers, ] | ] | ] 02:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
	::Generally, that's pretty arcane and only relevant to genus articles, or species that were tightly involving in defining them (for example, there seems to be an odd debate over the multiple type species for ''Amanita''). I'll look up ''Agaricus'', ''Amanita'' (since ''A. muscaria'''s the current type) and ''Psalliota''. I'll also dig up the ref so you can look it up yourself, with any chance. ] 04:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)		::Generally, that's pretty arcane and only relevant to genus articles, or species that were tightly involving in defining them (for example, there seems to be an odd debate over the multiple type species for ''Amanita''). I'll look up ''Agaricus'', ''Amanita'' (since ''A. muscaria'''s the current type) and ''Psalliota''. I'll also dig up the ref so you can look it up yourself, with any chance. ] 04:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
	:::Cool, keen to see what pops up. cheers, ] | ] | ] 05:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)		:::Cool, keen to see what pops up. Cheers, ] | ] | ] 05:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
	::::I only quickly thumbed through it and noted the full ref (<small>{{cite journal| last=Donk| first=M.A.| title=The generic names proposed for Agaricaceae| journal=Beiheifte zur Nova Hedwigia| pages=1-320| volume=5| year=1962| issn= 0078-2238}}</small>) because I forgot about it until the last minute. ''Psalliota'' looks like a classic synonym case. It shares the same type with ''Agaricus'', and might be older. ] 01:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)		::::I only quickly thumbed through it and noted the full ref (<small>{{cite journal| last=Donk| first=M.A.| title=The generic names proposed for Agaricaceae| journal=Beiheifte zur Nova Hedwigia| pages=1–320| volume=5| year=1962| issn= 0078-2238}}</small>) because I forgot about it until the last minute. ''Psalliota'' looks like a classic synonym case. It shares the same type with ''Agaricus'', and might be older. ] 01:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
	::Weird! I thought Linnaeus was calling all sorts of things ''Agaricus'' so I wonder how it could predate that really....anyway I am curious.cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 02:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)		::Weird! I thought Linnaeus was calling all sorts of things ''Agaricus'' so I wonder how it could predate that really....anyway I am curious.cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 02:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
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	Okay, First thing I have to say is... Damn, 18th-19th century taxonomy and nomenclature of fungi is ''a right mess''. Whose bright idea was it to give fungi 3 starting dates in the ICBN???		Okay, First thing I have to say is... Damn, 18th–19th century taxonomy and nomenclature of fungi is ''a right mess''. Whose bright idea was it to give fungi 3 starting dates in the ICBN???
	LOTS of "''per''" in citation here. See		LOTS of "''per''" in citation here. See
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	:All proposals to conserve ''Agaricus'' against ''Psalliota'' or vice versa have so far been considered superfluous.		:All proposals to conserve ''Agaricus'' against ''Psalliota'' or vice versa have so far been considered superfluous.
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	;On ''Lepiota''		;On ''Lepiota''
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	Phew! ] 18:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)		Phew! ] 18:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
	:I hope you intend to clean that prose ASAP? It's definitely not article-worthy as is. ] 01:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)		:I hope you intend to clean that prose ASAP? It's definitely not article-worthy as is. ] 01:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
	::I'm working on it. Got distracted this morning...cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 01:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)		::I'm working on it. Got distracted this morning...cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 01:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
	== ndashes ==
	HTML ndashes suck. If you're on a Windows box, you can get a ''real'' ndash (i.e. unicode) by holding down the ALT key and typing 0150 on the numeric keypad. ] 11:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
	:Hmmm...thanks for the tip. I'll try that next. cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 13:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
	::Thanks for indulging me, dude. :-) ] 00:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
	:::If, like me, you're stuck with a laptop without a numeric pad with ALT functionality, n- and m-dashes are the two firsts characters after "insert" in the list placed under the edit window. ] 22:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
	::::FWIW, I've edited my keyboard layout for "easy" dashes with a little Microsoft utility (yes, I use Windows). It takes a while to set up, but now I can add en and em dashes with only two keystrokes—quite an improvement for WP editing :) ]<small>&nbsp;(]·])</small> 23:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
	:::::I add shortkeys all the time on various programs. If i used a reallot of weird characters, I'd totally do that to have across windows. ] 16:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
	== ] ==		== ] ==
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	Perhaps a clay tablet with the answer has been destroyed in only the last few years during the "troubles" in Iraq. :( ] (]) 21:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		Perhaps a clay tablet with the answer has been destroyed in only the last few years during the "troubles" in Iraq. :( ] (]) 21:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	::This is the great thing about uncertainty. Lacking an answer, the reports of Maimonides, Mary Douglas and the other guy mentioned are fascinating.Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 22:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::This is the great thing about uncertainty. Lacking an answer, the reports of Maimonides, Mary Douglas and the other guy mentioned are fascinating.Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 22:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::] is a remarkable article! Thanks for that, lol. ] (]) 21:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		:::] is a remarkable article! Thanks for that, lol. ] (]) 21:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
	Spotted this. I'll look for a ref to the ] comment. The normal teaching is that pork is no more or less offensive to Jews than any other forbidden meat (dog, horse etc) or forbidden part of kosher animal (blood, ] etc). The pig (NB pig, not pork - an important distinction which is relevant for the Maimonides comment too, I note) is "singled out" because it alone of the animals that have one of the two "signs" (it has split hooves but doesn't chew the cud) lies down with its legs sticking out. Most quarapeds have their legs folded under them. There's a ]ic lesson to be learned there, apparently, that the pig is immodestly and falsely proclaiming its religious cleanliness, when it is not. Anyway, that said, I'll look into the M comment - he was quite ahead of his time in terms of medical knowledge (check his biog). And NB my OR/POV antennae buzzed when I read that little section. --] (]) 22:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		Spotted this. I'll look for a ref to the ] comment. The normal teaching is that pork is no more or less offensive to Jews than any other forbidden meat (dog, horse etc) or forbidden part of kosher animal (blood, ] etc). The pig (NB pig, not pork – an important distinction which is relevant for the Maimonides comment too, I note) is "singled out" because it alone of the animals that have one of the two "signs" (it has split hooves but doesn't chew the cud) lies down with its legs sticking out. Most quarapeds have their legs folded under them. There's a ]ic lesson to be learned there, apparently, that the pig is immodestly and falsely proclaiming its religious cleanliness, when it is not. Anyway, that said, I'll look into the M comment – he was quite ahead of his time in terms of medical knowledge (check his biog). And NB my OR/POV antennae buzzed when I read that little section. --] (]) 22:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:Someone has tagged the ] for OR, though the talk page seems to indicate it is for a different reason....Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:Someone has tagged the ] for OR, though the talk page seems to indicate it is for a different reason....Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	::Hmm... makes me more dubious, but I'll check. btw... I'm not Alastair! --] (]) 23:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::Hmm... makes me more dubious, but I'll check. btw... I'm not Alastair! --] (]) 23:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
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	Hope that helps. --] (]) 09:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		Hope that helps. --] (]) 09:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
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			==Bract pattern==
	== Greek proofing on Wikisource ==
			]
			You know what I don't get? On page 245 of George (1981), and again on page 40 of Collins (2007), George gives a diagram showing the arrangement of unit inflorescences on a ''Banksia'' flower spike. Both diagrams clearly show a hexagonal layout; i.e. every common bract is surrounded by six equidistant common bracts, thus forming little hexagons. In support of this, George (1981) states "The unit inflorescences are so arranged on the axis that there are three pattern lines—vertical, and both dextral and sinistral spiral."
			I haven't dissected an inflorescence, but in some species the pattern persists right through flowering and can be seen on the infructescence. You won't get a better example than this ''B.&nbsp;menziesii'' cone. Look at that pattern. There's no way you could call it hexagonal. It is a rectangular (or rather diamond, since the lines are diagonal) grid. Depending on how you define a neighbourhood, you could argue that each common bract has 4 or 8 neighbours, but there's no way you could argue for 6. Similarly, you could argue for two pattern lines (dextral and sinistral spiral) or four (dextral, sinistral, vertical and horizontal), but there is no way you could argue for 3, because there is no reason to include vertical whilst excluding horizontal). On top of that there is a beautiful symmetry in the way each common bract is surrounded by its own floral bracts and those of its neighbours. But George's diagrams destroy that symmetry.
	Hi Cas,
			I thought maybe ''B.&nbsp;menziesii'' was an exception to a general rule, but you can see the same diamond grid, though not as clearly, in ], and I reckon (but am not certain) I can see it in my ''B.&nbsp;attenuata'' cone. And in ] too. What the heck is going on?
	Would you mind bringing your knowledge of Greek to bear on these three Wikisource pages for me please: , , ? It should only take five minutes I think. If you've got a Wikisource or unified account, you can correct any errors you find; else you can let me know and I'll fix them.
			(I'm not just being a pretentious wanker here. I thought the diagram was interesting and informative enough for me to whip up an SVG version for Misplaced Pages. But since copying George's diagram isn't really on, and it is much better to go straight from nature if possible, I was basing my version on this ''B.&nbsp;menziesii'' cone. But it isn't going to work if the diagram shows a rectangular grid and the text has to say it is hexagonal.)
	] 02:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
	:Much obliged. ] 06:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
			] 13:28, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
	Easy peasy you say... nearly all of the yellow pages on this work contain Greek. ]. If you could verify even a few of them, especially ], that would be fantastic. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 15:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
	:You did a good job on p. 20, only one accent switch. I'll have a look later. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 21:23, 24 June 2008 (UTC)		:Thanks for reminding me on this one – I think it was Alex (or Kevin??) who told me that every bract pattern was unique to a species and hence diagnostic, but as far as I know not much if anything has been published on this area. The similarity between ''archaeocarpa'' and ''attenuata'' was noted (the bract pattern remaining in the fossils). I seem to recall feeling bamboozled as well by the description when I read it some time ago. I will have to refresh myself with some bedtime reading....] (] '''·''' ]) 13:50, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
			:'''Update''': I had a look at the pages in question in the banksia book(s), there is a little bit more in the 1981 monograph but not much. I meant to ring Alex George about this and should do so in the next few days...I guess the photos look sort of like hexagons stretched vertically :P ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:46, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
	Hi again, we have a category for them now on English Wikisource: ]. The ones in the "Page:" namespace are accompanied by pagescans; the EB1911 pages usually have a link to the pagescan on the talk page. Cheers, <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 23:59, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
			:: ''Dipsacus fullonum'' Just passing through. I am not an expert with flora but I do take photos now and again. Does from my personal collection help or hinder your discussion? I see diamonds --] (]) 12:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
			::: Haha yeah. Not a bad comparison at all. a diamond pattern it is there as well. You sorta let your eyes go a little out of focus and see two diagonal lines....] (] '''·''' ]) 14:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
			==Question==
	== Updated Ucontribs ==
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			I note that the last six images to be posted on your talk page were posted by me. I'm not sure whether to apologise....
	I added two columns and refined the scan logic on my ], and since you are the originator of the concept, I ]. Feel free to find any problems with the latest update, if you need an incentive, let me just say how disappointed I am that two weeks have passed and it is ''still'' not a solid list of FA's :) Also, if you're thinking of asking for a new program to show the changes between runs of my other program - no (at least not yet:). I'm wondering about putting in the latest "failed" status too, as in (Failed GA), but I'd need some category hints to work that in.
			What is going on in the lower image? Clearly this is an inflorescence in very early bud, but those furry white things are apparently not developing flower pairs. Are they some kind of protective bract or something?
	Thanks for the idea, what a great way to learn about article assessments; the wide range(/incoherence) of category names; and mostly, the great diversity of interests and accomplishments of editors of the wiki! ] (]) 12:21, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
			] 01:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
	:Oh heck. I'll go and reply over there...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 13:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
			:You certainly see those thingies on the developing buds of alot of banksias. I'd be intrigued what the Nikulinsky book, which is essentially a series of plates of a developing ''menziesii'' inflorescence, says (not sure, I don't recall whether it had commentary...). Another thing to look up. Was about to look up the patterns just now. ] (] '''·''' ]) 02:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
	== userpage ==
			:Now I have looked at the books and bract architecture, question is are they common bracts or are they something which falls off (don't think so but..). Something else to ask Alex. ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:49, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
	(continuing in this thread despite the different topic) I've skimmed through several categories on commons, like ] and ] and ] comes closest to what I think you want. I like the borders, esp. the hue. Unfortunately, it's not easy to lighten and probably not possible at all to remove the ink (I gave it a half-assed try with GIMP). Anyway, just to see if we're on the same page as to your idea. Ideally, several similar but non-identical images of blank pages could be used for something similar to the DT userpage, considering that you have quite a lot of stuff on your userpage (with a different section on each page and some playful navigation). Or did you have something like a central disambiguation in mind, putting all the stuff in different subpages? I envision a self-made treasure map (the real problem would be to get the ragged border to look authentic) with an imagemap overlay on the different words (rendered into the image, possibly handwritten), linking to all the different sections (like on my old userpage or using subpages). And I see a compass rose in one of the corners (bottom right?). ] (]) 18:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
	:(i) I like the font, but I'm not sure how well it would blend into the treasure map concept. (ii) I still can't believe that commons wouldn't have dozens of images like we're looking for among their ''roughly estimated'' ten thousand primary and secondary sexual characteristics copyvios. Oh well. On a related note, my GF is a graphic designer, maybe she has an idea where to get such an image, or can help create one that could be filled in. She's also great —professional, actually— with Photoshop, maybe she can alternatively clean up the Vineland map with some of those tools I never use). ] (]) 06:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
	Sorry for not getting back to you earlier. Yes, I look for compass roses on commons, too, and I agree this one is nice and can also easily be used to put it in another picture. It's a pity that the background you found isn't free, because then we'd be ready to go. I've asked my GF about the Vineland map, but she said it would take ages to get it right. ] (]) 23:09, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
			::Having found nothing in George, I've been reading Douglas's stuff on ontogeny of Proteaceae flowers, and found nothing there either.<p>If you snap a spike axis in half, they are just that brown colour, and essentially made of closely packed fuzz. I wonder if there is initially no gap in the axis for the flower to grow, so the developing flower literally has to shove some of the axis out in front of it as it extends. This would explain everything except for the white tip. ] 10:23, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
	== A bird-related article that could benefit from your attention ==
	]. Okay, you made one edit to it back in January 2007. I have a feeling this is a pretty interesting fellow, as would be the saving of the black robin. Of course, I also have a feeling that there are a few other bird-loving editors who pop into this page occasionally and might also be motivated to improve the article. At least this fellow is from the same hemisphere as you. :-) ] (]) 04:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
			I have today taken a long lunch and gone bushwalking with Gnangarra. While he took happy-snaps, I did some OR on this question. My diagnosis is: these are peduncles that have developed common bracts, but have not yet developed floral bracts or flowers.
	:Dunno much about him, for some reason someone really enjoys vandalising ] and I am mystified why. I'll see what I can do. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 04:12, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
			In very young spikes like the one pictured here, they are not yet very densely packed together, so they can be perceived as individual peduncles. Given time, they will continue to grow, and as they do so they will become more and more densely packed together, until eventually they are jammed together so tightly that their dense coverings of hairs form the fibrous brown material that comprises a typical flower spike, and the common bracts at their apex will form the bract pattern on the surface of the spike. At that point, they will no longer be distinguishable as individual peduncles, but will simply be part of the spike.
	== ] ==
			When the flowers start to develop, they get squeezed together even more. At this point, sometimes, a peduncle may break off the axis and be squeezed right out of the spike as the flowers around it develop. Thus you may see one or two of these furry things sitting at random positions on the surface of a developed flower spike.
	I see you've taken it on, good work. The display and vision bits at Crested Tern apply for all the genus. The opening sentence isn't fully supported by Bridge - although Elegant is very close, Lesser Crested isn't, other than being in the same genus. I won't abandon this article (after all, one good ... ''aaaarrrggh'', it's catching), but let me know if there's anything specific esp from BWP, Olsen or Harrison, where I have the books. Now, must be time for a couple of slices of bread with some meat in. 10:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
			As evidence for this hypothesis I offer the following observations:
	== Australian figs ==
			#Wherever one of those "furry things" is found loose on the surface of a spike, you will also find a gap in the bract pattern beneath it, where the common bract is absent;
			#"Furry things" may occasionally be found partly out of the spike, but partly in, in which cases the white tip is quite obviously the common bract. In such cases removal of the "furry thing" leaves behind a visible hole in the spike where a common bract ought to be.
			] 05:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
	Been a bit of a the few days... ] (]) 00:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
	:Cute tool that. We'll see how many GAs, DYKs and FAs we can get. Got bits and pieces of horticultural stuff to add yet :) ...just musing on how to bonsai my species... Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)		::Interesting – Gah! Forgot to ring Alex – evening is a crazy time with little availability for me, but will see what I can do. ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
			Not OR any more. Look at the picture of "Banksia flower bud seen in profile" : clear evidence of the common and floral bracts forming one of those little furry upside-down pyramids, with the flower arising from it. ] 03:38, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
	== UFOINFO ==
			:On a tangential point, the first image would most likely pass FPC if it ever finds a home that is appropriate. ] (]) 06:55, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
	Hi, a site called is used in multiple articles as reference. Do you think it should be considered RS? I cannot see any editorial board or anything by which it can be considered RS. ''']''' (]) 05:04, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
			::Hmmm, okay, hopefully Hesperian will see this thread. :) ] (] '''·''' ]) 11:31, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
			:::Gosh, would it really?! I was quite proud of it but a bit unsure whether it had enough depth of field. But if I'll take anyone's word that it would probably pass, I'll take Noodle snacks. :-) ] 23:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
			== ''Banksia menziesii'' with persistent florets ==
	:Neither can I. I guess next step is googling principal writers to see if they are notable independently. Not really my area. Otherwise the newspaper reports listed on the website themselves may have to serve...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
			]
	== perennial user page project ==
			]
			While I was out a-walking in the bush one day last week, I spied a banksia with an unfamiliar jizz. Even on closer inspection I was bamboozled for half a minute until the pieces fell together and I realised I was looking at a ''B.&nbsp;menziesii'' with persistent florets. Not just a bit late to fall: there were old cones from previous seasons with the florets still bolted on. In fact, there wasn't a single bald cone on the whole tree. I've never seen anything like it. Have you? ] 04:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
			:Hmm..interesting. I have not ever noticed a menziesii like this, but not to say it can't happen. Might it be a ''menziesii/prionotes'' hybrid – how far is the tree from you? I'd compare the newgrowth/leaf dimensions/trunk all for comparison. Did it have any new flowers? Some of these old cones have an aura of prionotes about them...] (] '''·''' ]) 05:11, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
	How about ]? The hue is crap, but it's just a quick edit to see if you like the direction. <span style="font-family:lucida sans, console;">''''']:]'''''</span> 14:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
			::''prionotes'' crossed my mind at first, but the bark is that of ''menziesii'', and nothing like the distinctive ''prionotes'' bark. And the flower spikes lack the woolliness of old ''prionotes'' florets.<p>It's quite near my place; about ten minutes drive. Even closer to where Alex lives (assuming he still lives at the address he has been publishing under lately): only five minutes drive from there I would guess. If it's ''prionotes'' (which it isn't), then we've extended the known range of that species 10km south. Likewise, a hybrid means there's a ''prionotes'' population nearby, so it amounts to the same thing. ] 05:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
	::Ooo-arrrr me hearties, it be a fine 'n' tidy start, I be lookin' with keen oyes at what comes next..''(seriously looks good, be good if you could make it somehow stretch, as in slot in horizontal bits to keep the bottom pattern at the bottom IYKWIM)'' Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 14:20, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
			== '']'' again ==
	I see a minor typo. It says "Welcome to Casliber's Cove" where it should say "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here." ] 14:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
			I finally made it to the library and got a hold of you had asked about a couple of weeks ago. There's enough info there to make DYK-worthy stubs on the genus, and three of the species (''macrocarpus'', ''katerinae'', ''toomanis''), or, alternatively, maybe enough for a GA on the genus. What are the chances of images? Apparently these fungi make small but visible apothecia on the seed capsules. Berkeley and Broome first wrote about the fungus in 1887, so maybe there's a sketch from the protologue that's useable. Anyway, I'll start adding text in a day or two and maybe we can have the first Banksia/Fungi wikiproject collaboration? ] (]) 14:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
	::OH you mean like ] or something...''ergh''....Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 14:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
			:::Berkeley & Broome (1887) is online at http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/13683 — see page 217. There is a picture at Plate 29 figure 18. ] 02:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::That's a nice image on plate 29 there. They call it ''Tympanis toomanis'' on page 224 decription of plate. How do we capture that image and replicate it on commons? ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::::]. ] 03:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::On page 222, they talk about finding it on a banksia cone near the ] in southern NSW, which leaves me thinking it is a cone of ''Banksia marginata'' although they do not state this (OR alert ++++). Funny looking marginata cone but marginata is a hugely variable species....] (] '''·''' ]) 03:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
	You could use the image as a fixed frame, with a scrollable text frame overlaid within it, and/or you could use it as a frame for different "pages" like my old userpage (the final revision of my old userpage combined both: "individual pages" each with a scrollable "inner" frame for the content of each page. btw: could you do me a favour and restore it? I find I need access to some formatting tricks I've collected there). At any rate, I'm going to work over the hue and upload a version without the text. It'd be possible to clone the middle (blank) part, but the limitations are manifold (apart from the challenge of making it look halfway acceptable): Different browsers and different users prefer wildly different font sizes, so you'd end up with a scrollable frame any way (where people would have to scroll "twice", once within the page and once within the frame) or you'd end up with blank space towards the bottom. <span style="font-family:lucida sans, console;">''''']:]'''''</span> 14:52, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
			:::::Check your email; I've sent you a copy of Beaton (1982), where they ''do'' state that the cone is ''B.&nbsp;marginata''. (You guys should have asked me first; I could have saved Sasata a walk to the library.) ] 03:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::@Sasata – I'll leave it up to you whether a solid GA and one DYK for the whole shebang, or 4 species articles – you've got the material and I am happy either way. cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
	* At ], I've installed a simply formatted proposal to get us started. Let me know what you think. My idea is to slowly and occasionally keep exchanging until something you like develops (otherwise until you decide you want something completely different, or to keep the current design). <span style="font-family:lucida sans, console;">''''']:]'''''</span> 17:04, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
			:::::Am working on the article behind-the-scenes now... that picture you uploaded is excellent, and thanks Hesp for finding the protologue. Too bad the scan resolution is so crappy; I can upload a screen capture/crop to Commons, but will first investigate to see if there's a copy of the original around here so I might rescan at higher resolution. Four DYKs and 1 GA doesn't sound unreasonable for the lot, but I'll see what I can come up with. ] (]) 03:32, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
	* I've made it width-scalable. I image a pseudo-frame layout similar to my old page, with the added fun of people clicking the Welcome text to arrive at a table of contents with every entry right next to the inner (text frame) scrollbar, at the point corresponding to the position of that section. Should be great after I brush up the background images. <span style="font-family:lucida sans, console;">''''']:]'''''</span> 18:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
			::::::The resolution is good. I guess you were looking at it at 25%. Try zooming in. ] 03:40, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::::::Yeah, it'll do the trick. I gave the article a good push towards GA. Hesp, do you have easy access to Beaton 1984, or maybe Fuhrer, B,; May, T. (1993). "Host specificity of disc-fungi in the genus ''Banksiamyces'' on ''Banksia''." ''Victorian Naturalist (South Yarra)'' '''110''' (2):73–75? I think once those two are located and added, that'll be it from journals (but you may find stuff to add from your Banksia books?). I could start stubs for the species, but it would be a shame to have to leave out ''B.&nbsp;maccannii''. ] (]) 07:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::::::I can probably get Vic Naturalist at UNSW Library next tuesday or friday (slim chance on weekend). ] (] '''·''' ]) 07:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::::::::When you get to ''Victorian Naturalist'', you'll also want to grab {{cite journal | author = Sommerville, K.; May, T. | year = 2006 | title = Some taxonomic and ecological observations on ''Banksiamyces'' | journal = The Victorian Naturalist | volume = 123 | pages = 366–375}} ] 08:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::::::::Thanks for finding that, wonder why it didn't show up in my database search. Cas, if it's too mush hassle for you to get these, let me know and I can order them, would take 1–2 weeks to get here.
			::::::::I'll have easy access to Beaton (1984) on Monday. No access to ''Victorian Naturalist''. ] 08:38, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::::::::Sorry, forgot again. I've just scanned it now. Cas: I'll forward shortly; if you have Sasata's email address, can you forward it on please? Otherwise, Sasata: send me an email so I know where to send this scan. ] 04:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::::::::I don't see any email link on your user page... I can wait until Cas forward a copy. Thanks kindly ] (]) 15:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::::::::::::I guess you've never noticed the "Email this user" link in the sidebar toolbox.... ] 23:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::::::::::::! Wouldya look at that... That's embarrassing! Now excuse me while I go give eyewitness testimony in a murder trial. ] (]) 23:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::::::::::Hang on a sec, will send. Also, will be near the library again for Vic Naturalist. ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
			:Hahaha. Fantastic. I just realised I never uplaoded a funny photo I took in WA a few years ago. I need to double check. ]'' had these dark objects on it which might be a fungus as they certainly weren't on any other cones I saw about the place.]] ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
	== ''Banksia sphaerocarpa'' var. ''pumilio'' ==
			As OZtrylia has a notoriously under described rang of and field of mycology study – any signs of further fungi or algae work is to be encouraged at all points ]] 01:51, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
	FloraBase has an entry for this, but no other information. Know anything about it? ] 04:54, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
	:Never mind; I found it. ] 04:55, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
	::... and I see your name in the Acknowledgements too.... ] 05:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
	::: XD - cool! We were all always arguing about the distinctness of northern ''ashbyii'', and Alex told me about the ''incana''. ''sphaerocarpa'' makes my eyes goggle, I knew about ''latifolia'' but had no knowledge of ''pumilio''. Wow, must go and read it now. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:09, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
			Taking pity on poor Cas, whose ''Banksia'' books are still packed up in boxes:
	I guess you might want to have a look at too. ] 11:47, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
			From Collins, Collins and George (2008), page 47, first paragraph of a section entitled "Fungi and lichens":
	== I've removed a comment of yours ==
			"Many kinds of fungi are associated with Banksias. There is even a genus of fungi named for their association with these plants—''Banksiamyces''. The first species of these was recognised in the 1880s and placed in the genus ''Tympanis'', then in the 1950s transferred to the genus ''Encoelia''. Further collections and research led to the description of the genus ''Banksiamyces'' by Beaton and Weste in 1982, with two further species. Six taxa are now recognised, so far known from 13 species of ''Banksia'' (Sommerville & May, 2006). Commonly known as banksia discs, they have all been found on eastern Australian Banksias and one is also known in Western Australia. They are discomycete fungi, growing on the fruit and appearing as small, shallow dark cups on the follicles (Fuhrer, 2005). When dry they fold inwards and look like narrow slits. Their effect is unkown but it seems unlikely that they are responsible for degradation of the seeds."
	Casliber;<br />I've undone and edit of yours. It ''was'' fairly provocative, don't you think? That being said, I'll do no more w.r.t. it should you (or anyone else) decide to put your "child grooming" comment back.<br />Cheers big ears,<br /><font color="black">]</font> 06:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
			At the bottom of the page there is a photo of ''Banksiamyces'' on ''B.&nbsp;lemanniana''. They look like little light grey maggots on the follicles. Based on the photo and textual description, I would suggest that the ''B.&nbsp;violacea'' photo doesn't show this genus. ] 11:17, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
	:''(sigh)''...''(shrugs shoulders)'' yeah, fair enough. We'll stick to the subject, though I am getting less confident of all aprties accepting consensus in debates outside AfD and FAC...for amusement have a look at ] - at what point do I close this as consensus/no consensus or how %#%(&%%*& long do I leave it open....''(jumps back to original topic in stream-of-consciousness typing)'' I can't chase these Monty orginal sources, I have tried to find a psych definition of pederast but it appears to be treated synonymously with pedophilia or not mnetioned at all in any psych material I have found. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 07:54, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
			:Hmmm, that's what I initially thought when I read the description and sketches in Beaton 1982, but after seeing B&B's 1872 sketches, I was pretty sure Cas's pic was a ''Banksiamyces''. I guess I should reserve judgment until I get more info. ] (]) 17:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			::From the abstract of Somerville and May 2006: "Apothecia of these crops are of different macroscopic appearance, with lighter apothecia being mostly immature, and darker apothecia producing spores." ... so who knows? ] (]) 17:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
			Anything else to add to this article? Shall we put it up for GAN? ] (]) 17:39, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
			:Yeah put it up, there might be some bits and pieces. I'll take a look. ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:32, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
			::Any ''Banksia'' experts you're chums with that might be able to give a confirmation on your putative ''Banksiamyces'' photo? ] (]) 05:45, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
			:::damn, I meant to contact Tom May about it (who has been helpful before). Will dig up his email and see what he says. ] (] '''·''' ]) 07:09, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
	== Vampire ==		== ] ==
	An astute observation about vampires in movies: . --] (]) 14:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)		You may want to have a look there as well. Appears to have been improved by a Szasz fan. I've read diagonally , but even that doesn't seem to support the light in which the Halpern-Szasz issue is presented in Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 13:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
	:Nice little read that, need to keep it up me sleeve for those befanged daughter articles was gonna get round to doing for a featured topic sometime...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 14:25, 21 November 2008 (UTC)		:Just go back from a weekend break with no innernet..now where was I.....] (] '''·''' ]) 10:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
			== Aboriginal Astronomy ==
	:: An even better one: . --] (]) 04:05, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
			Hi Casliber – thanks for your note. Yes there's quite a bit more out there which Duane Hamacher and I are slowly trying to get written up. You can find some more stuff on www.emudreaming.com and you may find some papers you havent come across on http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rnorris/papers/papers.htm
			Have fun! ] (]) 03:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
	::: Gawd, gotta get 'round to making all teh befanged stuff a Featured Topic at some stage, a more immediate one is critters in my garden what make drive my dog crazy and make him bark at 5AM...], ], ] (FA), ] ''(in neighbour's compost bin)'', ] ''(we..ell, they don't make him bark but they should be included for all-round cuteness)''....the first two species have tunnelled a hole in my 6m high date palm and littered the patio with crap. Stupid pooch wants to catch them...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 04:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
			:Great! I'll have a look and if I find anything specific to nag you on...I will :) cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:49, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
	== BLP cases ==
			== Orange-bellied Parrot ==
	If you're searching for cases related, I think two of the more important are the Badlydrawnjeff case and the Footnoted quotes case. Footnoted quotes isn't really about BLP content, but it established the "special enforcement" provisions that relate specifically to BLP. The Matthew Hoffman case also wasn't directly about BLPs, but it did get into how we deal with BLP-like problems involving editors and administrators who edit with their real names. Fair amount of interesting discussion in the workshop and on the proposed decision talkpage, although you'll have to wade through neck-deep crap to find it.
			] (]) 07:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Hi. I would like to open for discussion the format of the entry for 'Orange-bellied Parrot'. As news occurs in the recovery program for this species, the limitations of the current format of the Misplaced Pages entry become more obvious.
	Going through the closed cases page, here are some links:
			The heading, 'Conservation Status' should, I believe, be reserved for the actual conservation status in Australia, and in the three states, SA, Tasmania and Victoria. What follows after that, but still under that heading, at present, is a running commentary of events since about 2010.
			This is not acceptable.
			I propose another heading be inserted, 'Recovery Program' or similar. In it, a short history of the OBP recovery program could be given – since 1980 or so – and then, new events could be smoothly inserted as they happen.
			What do others think? The Misplaced Pages entry is an important first port of call for many people interested in this bird. We owe it to them, and to history, to provide a better entry.
			] (]) 07:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
	* ] (wheel war on the protection of a high profile BLP)
	* ] (special enforcement provisions)
	* ] (The subject of the case was also the subject of a BLP, Bluemarine edited the article about him almost exclusively and the issues discussed related to his conduct and the leeway given to an article subject)
	* ] (only tangentially related to BLP, mostly "conduct on BLPs" and no new principles that I'm aware of)
	* ] (same basic issue as Bluemarine, subject of a BLP editing Misplaced Pages)
	* ] (prohibits admins from undeleting content removed as violating BLP without full discussion with deleting administrator)
	* ] (More internal drama than anything else, but is specifically about the deletion of a BLP)
			: Agreed. <s>Will take a look.</s> sounds good – helps with seamless updating and no doubt there is a lot of info that could be added. ] (] '''·''' ]) 08:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
	Those I think are the big cases that deal with BLPs in 2008 and 2007. I'm sure I'm missing one or two, but if you look into them I'm sure any major principles articulated are cited to previous cases if they aren't new. I didn't follow arbitration prior to 2007, and the descriptions aren't very in depth, so I'm not completely sure which if any of the pre-2007 cases apply. I don't recall any being major factors in the above decisions. ]] 00:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
			== got any advice for writing a constellation FA? ==
	:Thanks for that, much appreciated. My free time is frustratingly evaporating ATM...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 02:27, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
			Thinking of diversifying and trying Corona B. ] (]) 16:17, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
	== related question ==
			:It's easier than stars as there is less hardcore physics involved, but trickier as you have to make the material not "listy", which it sort of is by very nature. Smaller constellations are easier as there is less material to list generally. Star guide books, alot of which are on google, are good for general overview, how to find things, what's next to what etc. but alot of their factual info (distance/luminosity) is outdated. I have even suspected this in newer reprints/editions where new material is coming out. SIMBAD is a godsend and makes finding other material easy. I was using it as a ref itself but probably better to use the refs it cites. Overall I find astronomy articles more challenging than biology ones – trickeir to make engaging. We can collaborate on CrB if you like as I did plan on taking it All the Way at some point and then having it as a double mainpage with CrA. Collaborating is good as it makes for less work in some ways – each of us can copyeidt the other etc. 20:43, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
			::Just popping in during some of the rare free time I have at the moment to say that the hardest part of the constellation articles is figuring out exactly what objects to write about, since there is generally quite a bit of discretion in whether or not something should be in the article. I generally try to write about all stars brighter than magnitude 5.0, and the most-studied astronomical objects within the constellation, as well as a few other things such as extremes (e.g. R136a1) and unusual objects. One tip to find notable stars, I've found, is , which lists all Bayer, Flamsteed, and variable stars in each constellation by number of refs. Of course further research is necessary for other stars without said designations, but it's a good start. I would help, but I don't anticipate having much free time at all until at least December. ] (]&nbsp;•&nbsp;]) 21:18, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
			:::{{u|StringTheory11}} Wow! Great idea/find! That really helps. Agree with what you've said. I think it is good to get these in order as it also highlights what other articles are underdone or incorrect etc. ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:51, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
			::::Yup the small size was part of the reason I chose CrB (it's not the only reason though :-P). I'm cool with a collaboration. ST11's suggestions, as always, make a lot of sense. Going to read through some constellation FAs to get an idea of what to write – not least CrA... ] (]) 02:38, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
			::::::{{u|Double sharp}}, I have started buffing with this one. Just arting with the brighter stars – SIMBAD is best place to start and then chasing refs. Not sure how much you know about them (figuring distance from parallax etc...) so just ask away..or start on deep sky objects and I'll continue with stars (??) ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:05, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			== Carcinoma in situ ==
	ArbCom candidates are being asked standard questions, one of them being:
	<small>User:Smith is banned after a long series of behavioral problems including harassment of User:Jones, which Smith continues on his personal blog. A checkuser presents evidence that Smith has returned as User:Smythe. His editing is without incident and he is avoiding Jones. The Committee decides to ignore the Smythe account. Some time later, Smith emails the Committee, disclosing the Smythe account and pointing out Smythe's good edits, and asking to be unbanned. However, he has continued to post negative comments about Jones on his blog, and Jones objects to allowing Smith to edit under any account name. What should be done?</small>
			The ] page has been updated and it explains the different views that sometimes carcinoma in situ is seen as a cancer and sometimes it is not. You will probably remember earlier this year that you supported changing my use of the term "invasive cancer" to "cancer". The expression "invasive cancer" is used frequently in books particularly when talking about cancer of the cervix and in my opinion using the term "invasive cancer" can improve clarity. What do you think of the explanations in the carcinoma in situ article? ] (]) 13:13, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
	How about a variation of the question:
			:As it reads , which ones are you thinking should have invasive added to them? ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:35, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
			::Whoops, I have phrased it badly above, but you seem to have understood me. I should have said that you did not support my use of "invasive cancer" and you preferred the use of "cancer" instead. Actually, to me, it is not as simple as just inserting the word "invasive". Back then, I saw a better phrase in a reference and I thought about using it, because I thought that it would be accurate, readable, and I hoped keep everyone happy; however, the situation become unnecessarily tense and I felt like I was walking on eggs (and you know what that means). I did not get around to developing the article any further nor mentioning the "magical" phrase. I will see if I can find the phrase again. I recall that the solution was to use a short phrase in the place of cancer or invasive cancer in the introduction. I am talking in riddles at the present time, because I want to make sure that I can find that phrase again, and that will mean thinking about the introduction again. ] (]) 20:32, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::Okay, let me know what you are thinking of once you get it clear. It is an intriguing question. ] (] '''·''' ]) 11:56, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
			::::I would recommend the amendment belew, because the demarcation between non-cancer and cancer varies according to the literature, as we have seen, and this is made more difficult by a simplified language and vocabulary used to communicate the complex situation to patients. A definition of cancer that includes in-situ cancer is well established, but perhaps the world of the cytologist or histopathologist is a small world, where to say "invasive cancer" is not unusual. This is the current line in the introduction; ''"Cervical cytology tests can often detect precursors of cervical cancer and enable early successful treatment."''. I think that it would be more accurate if it said something like; ''"The main aim of cervical cytology screening is to detect precursors of cancer and early cervical cancer to enable early successful treatment."''. In this new line a full spectrum from viral changes to dysplasia to carcinoma-in-situ to early invasive cancer is included, so the controversy over where to put the non-cancer/cancer line disappears, and the meaning is clear no matter where the reader puts the line in his or her own mind-map. ] (]) 13:05, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::::::I reworded it like to make it flow better yet be inclusive and cover all interpretations. ] (] '''·''' ]) 13:24, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
			::::::::After some deep thought, I think that your edit is good enough. ] (]) 14:09, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
			*What do you think about making a joint nomination with me to take the cervix article to FA review sometime? I would not be planning to edit much of the "History" and "Other animals" sections, because I do not know much about those topics. I am not usually on the nominator's side of the fence, but I would be willing to step into that role here, partly to test the water. ] (]) 13:29, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
	User:Smith is banned after a long series of behavioral problems including harassment of User:Jones, which Smith DOES NOT continues on his personal blog. A checkuser presents evidence that Smith has returned as User:Smythe. His editing is without incident and he is avoiding Jones. Some time later, Smith emails the Committee, disclosing the Smythe account and pointing out Smythe's good edits, and asking to be unbanned. However, he has NOT continued to post negative comments about Jones on his blog, and Jones objects to allowing Smith to edit under any account name. What should be done? ARE YOU IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED OF UNBAN? ] (]) 19:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
			:I think it is a good idea – the prerequisites for being a nominator are being reasonably familar with the article and having the ability to address issues raised at FAC. Do you see anything else that needs fixing before listing it at FAC? 02:15, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
			::Oh good. I would like to have a long look at the article before FA nomination, and I expect that I will not feel happy with the article as a potential FA nomination for several weeks. There is some content and page organization in the article (as it is now) that I would like to reflect on. The peer review is also worth re-visiting to see what was not achieved there. I will probably attempt to start a few discussions on the article talk page where relevant. Do you have any time frame in mind or any particular schedule of your own to work around? Of course, I would ask you to constructively criticize my work whenever you think that anything can be improved, and I will try to focus on the issue and answer honestly and objectively trying not to be fractious nor stubborn, with a view to learning from my errors. It think that it will work better like that, than keeping quite or not speaking up when you do not agree with your co-nominator. I am saying that because I guessed that you have not felt easy about not supporting your co-nominator in FA reviews previously. Also, as before, please be alert to my writing style, which can sometimes need re-phrasing owing to clumsy grammar, although the content is often unambiguous (to me at least). Apart from that, it could be challenging writing for general readers and even more challenging writing for specialist readers that are unfamiliar with the small world of histopathology. ] (]) 12:08, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::{{u|Snowmanradio}} I have no time scale on this so it sorta takes as long as it takes. The refs need fixing for page numbers. The material is pretty good – only thing from PR left is double checking lymphatic drainage really I thought. Anyway. Posting things step by step on talk page is good. ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:39, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
			*I would have though that the "Function" heading would be about normal function. Surly, putting a barrier in front of the cx is not a normal function of the cervix. Also, oc pills are more about pharmacology and modified functioning of the cervix. Should the "Contraception" heading have its own level-2 heading? This has been discussed before, but it is worth starting another discussion on the talk page about this? ] (]) 21:42, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
			::I think that the human altering of function is fine there. I think it is fine as a level 3 heading underneath ''function'' ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:10, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
			::: When medicines affect function, it is called pharmacology. ] (]) 22:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			*In the introduction; "... the cervix is usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in shape". Change to: ?
			::1. "... the cervix is cylindrically shaped usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in cross section".
			::2. "... the cervix is usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in in cross section" ] (]) 17:30, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
	::Please respond. I am looking for a prompt response even more so than the actual answer, though both desired. ] (]) 16:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)		I think the first one or something like it – will take a look now. I wonder if the fact it is roughly cylindrical makes saying it's round in cross-section redundant. ] (] '''·''' ]) 22:22, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::Your amendment looks find to me. ] (]) 11:32, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
			*Should there be more consistency in using <nowiki>{{main|</nowiki> under more of the headings where there is an obvious main article else where? ] (]) 11:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			::{{u|Snowmanradio}} Yes that sounds like a good idea. ] (] '''·''' ]) 18:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::OK, I expect that I will add some when I do some editing there. ] (]) 20:47, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			*Re ]. Have you got any ideas on what to do with this article on the portio (or ectocervix)? I do not know why WP Anatomy has so many articles on sub-parts. If relevant, I expect that a formal discussion would be needed to consider a merge. ] (]) 20:47, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			::I think it should be merged. Will post something. ] (] '''·''' ]) 21:42, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::I plan to watch for a while and express an opinion, if needed. ] (]) 22:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
			::::It is off to a good start over there. I think that there is nothing on the unreferenced portio page that can be copied over to the cervix page. We could start planing how to present the portio (and its various names) on the cervix page. ] (]) 12:04, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
			* In have found what to me looks like a 2003 copyrighted version of ], so I have started a deletion discussion on Commons. Commons administrators will now have a look at it. Initially, I left an message with the uploader on Commons to ask a technical question about the image, and I noticed that he is currently blocked for three months, so I did a search for other copies of the cervix dilation image. The image should show the babies head moving down the birth canal as the cervix dilates, but the head looks stuck. The image is on about a dozen or more Wikis, so they might all be removed by a bot in due course. I am not sure if the image needs removing from the Cervix page at this juncture or not, so I wonder what you think about removal from the en Wiki. ] (]) 09:01, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
			::Oh dear – I suspect it will have to be removed, though maybe hold for a moment and see if an explanation is forthcoming. ] (] '''·''' ]) 09:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::I recently found a photograph of a rare parrot with the wrong copyright and it was deleted from Commons one week after I started the deletion discussion. ] (]) 14:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
			::::That sounds in keeping with deletion discussions elsehwere – around 1 week. ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:17, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::::Update: Image was deleted this yesterday. ] (]) 13:10, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
			*The ] article has had a lot of work on it since about June, and it is well worth looking at. I expect that we could shorten (or otherwise amend) the section on cervical cancer in the "cervix" article, because the "cervical cancer" article offers a good readable account. ] (]) 12:40, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
			::{{ping|Snowmanradio}} I will take a look. ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
			*Re ]. Sometimes, I like to tidy up the linked pages. This article was moved from the singular to the pleural in March 2014. I am aware that there is more than one HPV vaccine, but I would expect this to be on the singular name, unless there something controversial about it that I have missed. ] (]) 12:59, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
			::{{ping|Snowmanradio}} yes that is unusual and I think I prefer it at singular. I think it is worth discussing on the talk page. ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
			*The "Anatomical abnormalities" section looks like a mixture of acquired and congenital diseases. Could this be organized differently? I nearly did a reorganization, but a little re-organization does not change much, and I suspect that it would be easier to do a bit of a re-write. Also, it may be possible to expand the section with a little about the developmental abnormalities of the female genital tract seen in Cryptophthalmos syndrome, Johanson-Blizzard syndrome, Rokitansky Anomalod, and as less commonly seen in Roberts syndrome and Trisomy 18 syndrome. These diseases are not at the front of my mind, however these are in the index of my rather old second-hand book on human malformation. This is not a small change, so I welcome your opinion. ] (]) 13:34, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
			::{{ping|Snowmanradio}} let me take a look. I don't recall it right now and I thought I was happy with it before but will look. ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
			:::I have become unexpectedly busy in real life, so I have not had much time for editing the Wiki. I hope that I will be able to contribute with more editing and work on the cervix article again after about two or three months . ] (]) 10:03, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
			::::{{ping|Snowmanradio}} no worries. I found that I have lost interest in it. My free time (of which I have little) has to be enjoyable and thus something I have real enthusiasm for. I found I did get a bit enthusiastic about this one but comes and goes. More interested in ] and ] now. ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:11, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
			::::Also ] – very interesting story. I find writing about extinct species makes me sad (I leave them to {{u|FunkMonk}}) but rare ones are ok. ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:12, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
			:::::Apart from manual editing, I was hoping to write a few scripts for fun to do scanning and mass editing tasks on the Wiki this Autumn and Winter, but can not participate in a meaningful way at the present time. I plan to return when I can and I will look to see what you and User FunkMonk are doing then. Incidentally, have you any thoughts on why discussions about anatomy topics tend to be rather brittle? I might ask that question on the WP Anatomy talk page. ] (]) 10:49, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
			::::::What do you mean by 'brittle'? ] (] '''·''' ]) 12:30, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
			:::::::I will ask open-ended questions instead. Do you have any observations about discussions on anatomy topics? ] (]) 12:48, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
	Sorry Chergles - crappy connection yesterday:
			== Running a contest (talk page watchers welcome) ==
	OK. The ultimate goal is writing an encyclopedia ''(duh)''. Ultimately the benefits of a reformed, productive editor ''have'' to be taken into account vs. the conditions they were banned for ''and'' the feeling in the community were a banned editor to return. These will all vary from case to case (eg off-wiki stalking or some other antisocial behavior is obviously right out/forget it etc.) If a banned editor showed that they had been highly productive with a new account here, or (say) at other wikis for an extended period, that would be a start. Next would be consultation with aggrieved parties from the first time round. If the person is allowed to continue, ''conditions have to be strict enough to give the previous aggrieved parties and the community that there is a sense of control of the situation'' (i.e. if a large portion of people just said "no way" and had good reasons for doing so, that the loss of morale and trust is such that other editors felt unsafe, it would be ''extremely'' hard to justify). If all these are right then a trial may be ''possible'' (not a given). An example is the Jack Merridew case at arbcom at present.
	I figured you might be; you wanna enlighten me by email? Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)		Right folks...I can't decide which (long overdue) contest to run again. Putting this out there to see what folks reckon the 'pedia most needs or would be most fun (as without enthusiasm, it won't work). For folks unfamiliar, I try to get a wikigrant so several folks have a chance of winning a $25 (''or more'') Amazon voucher. ] (] '''·''' ]) 00:37, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
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	I might be what? I might be Jack Merridew? No, I'm not Jack Merridew. I hope he is not a stalker or a vandal. Or did you figure that I was just interested in you being responsive to answering a question?
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	The reason I asked the modified question was because the original question was too easy. For example, "the bad Misplaced Pages editor is also a murderer, tortures animals, and dumps toxic waste on the ground..should he edit?" rather than "the Misplaced Pages editor has definite strong points, how to handle it".
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			# ] (]) 09:16, 19 September 2019 (UTC) (just as a side-note I wouldn't take any voucher but would chuck it back into the pot)
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	My interest in asking you a question is that I wrote to ArbCom before and they never answered. (The problem was subsequently solved more than a year ago.) Since you are running for ArbCom, if I asked you a question and you ignored it, I'm not sure that I could support such a candidate. Maybe the solution for ArbCom is a Customer Service Department? I might be willing to help as I work with customers on a daily basis.
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	Good luck in your ArbCom candidacy. No further response from you is needed given your busy schedule. ] (]) 18:05, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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	::Not sure why I'm reading this, but I find it incredibly important to note that this does not take into account the user named ]. Heh. Okay mates, back to your regularly scheduled serious conversation....(<small>oh, and also? I noticed you post on ], I'm working on trying out some resolution with the blocker(s) and blockee, feel free to jump in wherever you see fit (and please don't wait until it's an Arbcom case, you'll have to recuse :-) </small>...thanks Cas -- ] <span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA">&#448;</span> ] 03:53, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:::Har har XD....I asked him to give me a blow-by-blow (i.e. diff by diff) breakdown as his points definitely did seem valid and insightful WRT Obama. The question is whether RfC or arb...I just thought that the way it descended into tit for tat blocking was not good. I can understand the blocks, but just thought this would be a good case to discuss openly and in a structured format. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 04:00, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:Oh crud, another competition..hmmmm..nice design.........have to ruminate on this one...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 14:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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	Hope to see you there - I've heard a rumour that the first drink is on the highest placed Australian in the current arbcom elections.... ] (]) 23:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)<small>ok, so I started that rumour too....</small>
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	Very cool idea. But...(a) what species, and (b) is that Ganesha? ] (]) 17:42, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:'']''. We get seedlings of that and '']'' popping up everywhere. In a playground near me there is a '']'' that I am trying to collect seed off as it has both (a) small leaves and (b) buttressed roots..Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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	Hello. A ] has recently been filed regarding ]. Since you have been involved in the dispute regarding his disruptive edits, I thought that you would want to know. You can see the RFC/U ]. Thank you. -] (]) 21:59, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
			Letting you know that the edit notice is now live - if you edit any article with refideas listed on the talk page, you will get the notification. :) You can click "edit" on ] to see it in action, if you have not already seen it. :) ] (]) 18:28, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
			== Pre-FA review? ==
	:Good one, thanks. ] (]) 03:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
			Hi Cas: I'm wondering if I can get you to cast your seasoned eye over ]. I'm going to try for FA, and wonder if you – as someone not particularly interested in lichens – find any of it hard to understand or lacking in information. Any comments much appreciated! ] (]) 19:38, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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			:Happy to/A pleasure. But busy so ping me if you haven't seen me there in 3 days or so. ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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	Better is: this for those who (its great); this for the feckers who (it tries hard but is just absolute art rubbish). And this for the . (last one was a big comp., so have mercy, ''maybe''.) ] (]) 02:15, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
	:Hmmm...interesting, I seem to like more tuneful things as I get older... (or this ) was a great Australian band, but you could only get their stuff on import in Oz as it was all produced O/S. Great zen/karma/relaxing/unearthly....Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 02:26, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:The 93 remix more? Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Dude you are an unculitvated snob, read , and join be for some cherry later on this afternoon, when I can sneer whith what I feel like is an equal ;0 ] (]) 02:33, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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	Well, when one is jumping around on a dancefloor rollicking away anyway, and nowadays my crammed life and sleep deprivation also does prefer music with a little adrenaline (or ] ''bleerrghh horrid word'') Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 02:37, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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	] actually not looking too bad, had a wee go at it. What's the deal with the references on that page, I been adding them with cite templates but most seem to be in another format, hope I'm not making more work for someone. What about this? its not often I get to say to an Australian, ] are better than ] at rugby league :). ] | ] 00:04, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
	::Hmm..they should be in cite format. I did much of this a ''really long'' time ago, wiki-wise, so there is all sorts of stuff need tweaking. Great sprucing up so far..I really want to fix up the pop culture stuff somehow, there should be some references out there...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:16, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
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	he he, you last post on Sandy's talk sounds like a request to me. Will do, glad to help. ] (]) 00:12, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
			Hi Cas, I hope that things are going well for you. While I am not keen to add to your list of unsolicited requests, ] is at FAC and could do with both another review and a look through by a knowledgeable editor. If you felt up to providing either of those, it would be much appreciated. Thanks. ] (]) 13:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
	:Cool! I found a cool haiku too...''(will get it on the article talk apge later)'' Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:22, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
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	== Northern River Otter:Peer Review ==
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	I was referred to you by ] (]) on the note that you had copy-editing skills that could help me during the peer review process. I have been working on the ] article in hopes that I could ultimately promote it to FA status. It's in its beginning stages, but I'm confident that goal can be achieved by utilizing the expertise of experienced Misplaced Pages users. I would be delighted if you could stop by sometime and provide some feedback on peer review or assist with the editing process.
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	* Thank you for your assistance Casliber. I appreciate your edit contributions and valuable advice. I'll be sure to integrate your suggestions into the whole refinement process for Northern River Otter.
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	Last year we managed to pull off the century by the end of the year. What do you think about this year? We're on 178! You're one of our trump cards. ''']''' ('']'') 03:25, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:Ack, we're trying to get 50 bird FAs and 50 GAs by he end of the year too, plus I need to return a book I borrowed on '']''..ah well, I can do some Australian bird GAs and get two for the price of one... hehehehe Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:31, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:hahaha - all TV episodes are equal, but some are more equal than others....anyway is a popular culture ref I intend adding to '']'' - classic paintings, Dodson, cultural refs of ''real pathos/kudos/bathos'' as well as super mario bros. Ewven got a haiku on the talk page...hopefully this is an article which can show what a good pop culture section can be..as long as I can find the damn scholalry refs!!! PS: The other seed for the arbcom was seeing it on Brenneman's page I think (I tohught if he could do it, so could I I guess...
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	Hehehe, my mother has a biography of him lying around at her place, so there is an easy DYK in a few days...''(He was my grandmother's favourite player)'' Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 52, 2023) ==
	Thanks a lot for the barnstar; but my contribution was very minor compared to others in MDD. Anyway; it has finally become a FA and it has been a great team work. I hope we cross again soon in other articles. Best regards--] (]) 08:20, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
	:Yeah, but it was crucial at a time when my resolve was flagging....Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 08:22, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
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	For the Arbitration Committee,<br />] (]) 10:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
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	* ] recently posted . This seems uncivil in its insulting usage "''Jeers''". It also seems an inappropriately inflammatory topic which, due to its dramatic nature, seems likely to get Jack straight back into more trouble. I'm not sure what is best done about this but started here since you are his mentor and somewhat familiar to me. If you would prefer me to report the incident elsewhere, please advise. ] (]) 14:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
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	<s>I very sorry to say that my student editing ] has opted out of the course. I had hopes on this one; in that the topic was within reasonable scope. Hopefully, her edits lead to improvement on the article, even though she fell far short of GA status. It is unfortunately typical to have students WP out of the program - it is rigorous and so many base there aptitude and interest in Biology on The Animal Planet. The reality of molecular biology, cell physiology, etc.. tends to take a toll every year. Thank you for adopting her; I hope this will not discourage you from participating in other such projects.</s> Respectfully - Jim Butler Croatan HS --] (]) 16:02, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
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	::Aargh! I am just going out the door. I will be back in an hour. It is mid-afternoon here..will see what I can do tehn if no-one else has. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:15, 10 December 2008 (UTC)		:Heh thanks - and ditto! To everyone who has posted here in this festive season! ] (] '''·''' ]) 21:50, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
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	::Heck, it has all changed!! Need to run. back in an hour when I can try to fiogure it out. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:16, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
	:::Oops, I meant to say ] (the next update's hooks). Thanks anyways! I'll see if somebody else can possibly do it before you can get back, just to be sure that the update is prepared. Cheers, ]<sup>]</sup>] 03:24, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
	::::{{did}} Looks like ] has done it. Thanks for your time, though. :-) ]<sup>]</sup>] 03:34, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
	::::::That's good, as I am in and out all arvo/ Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 04:56, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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	So, ''mindless'' is a personal attack, as is the name of the template. The whole theme is a failure to AGF and is at odds with WP:VANDAL and ]. The thing should be deleted. IMNSHO, of course. Cheers, ] 06:18, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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	Hi, Casliber. Your talk page width is about one and a half times the width of my PC's screen, which makes it a pain to read. Do you know why this is? If so, would you consider fixing it, please? ] <font color="#3CB371">¤</font> <small></font>]]</small> 23:07, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
	:I had a look at this. The problem remains even if all your talk text is removed, so it is part of your talk page skin. I started digging through the code, but gave up in disgust when I discovered you're using tables for layout; or rather, mixing tables with block elements in inscrutable ways. You should invite your mentee to have a squizz: from my interactions with him at Wikisource, it would seem that he is ''da man'' when it comes to this stuff. ] 23:34, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
			Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2024 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found ''']'''. If you have not yet signed up, you can ''']''' and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the ]. Signups will close on 31 January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: {{User4|Cwmhiraeth}}, {{User4|Epicgenius}}, and {{User4|Frostly}}. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from ].</small> ] (]) 00:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
	::Yeah, this is weird as it wasn't doing this yesterday...you are right I will ask Jack....Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:48, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 2, 2024) ==
	== Mushrooms ==
	I'm still wrapped up in the Milton fallout. However, I believe I removed your message a while back without noticing. I'm not sure where it went, but was there anything that you needed? ] (]) 00:18, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
	:Also, because I linked BorgQueen about it: . I believe such radical changes that alter common definitions and standard procedure (procedure that suddenly changed from my 40+ previous articles DYKed before) without a large community consensus is highly inappropriate. I also feel that there is an inherent bias from the fact that he established the guidelines. I am also troubled by many non-admin trying to determine what is selected directly to the mainpage, as admins are the ones responsible for the content, and they are selected because of community trust. There are so many issues happening that this is all getting out of hand. I've only been gone from DYK for two weeks and it seems like everything went backwards. ] (]) 00:21, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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	::Hi, the ref was interesting but superseded. Many thanks for looking :) - I have to read a bit more to see where else to look for information. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 00:34, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:::Much of the literary criticism doesn't discuss it. If you were correct, I think the distinguishing of the shroom came out too late for criticism to catch up. It would be an interesting topic for a New Historicist who is trying to discuss drug use and social class structures. But I don't think anything has come up. ] (]) 00:40, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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	I took a stab at google and I found this: , , , , , , . They really add a lot more books to google every day. Some of them are just a tiny note about it, but the context is interesting if you can find a copy of them. ] (]) 00:52, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
	:Note, those are the ones that mention Goldsmith. I don't know which ones you have listed already, I just wanted to include those that I found that seem to really discuss him to any length. ] (]) 00:53, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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	::Interesting. I have none of those - some googlebooks are in these funny tantalising fragments while others have huge chunks. I can get to Am Jo psychiatry easy enough. Thanks for the heads up. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:01, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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	I am deeply troubled by . You've been around for a long time. Am I going nuts? Sigh. ] (]) 05:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
	:Pertaining to the above et al, the issue was brought up here against me: . ] (]) 19:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
			Thank you today for ], "about a cute little parrot that has not been much-studied...meaning it is a shorter article than many bird articles"!
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			I have a DYK, but ] would be different, about ], - . --] (]) 11:05, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
	: NB: I have reformatted the above links to prevent ].
	: Cas, it is apparent that you are using ]; please . Cheers, ] 03:51, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
			On the Main page: ] who ] --] (]) 19:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
	:: Aha. I edit from about six or seven different locations, some of which I do not have control over what browser is used. Certainly, when I do, I do indeed use firefox. Was less enamoured of thunderbird after it crashed (norton antivirus tagged and deleted the ''whole inbox'' as infected and I lost lots of emails, many moons ago). Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 04:20, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 3, 2024) ==
	::: Carry a flash drive w/Firefox and install it as needed! I also use Thunderbird; it's great. I've been using it and FF since beta-times. Recent versions support filtering on an individual email-basis by anti-virus systems. You may well have had something quite nasty aboard; a good reason to use gmail and allow it to serve as a first level of defense and filtering. fyi, I'm not a Norton fan. Cheers, ] 07:02, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
	:::: Agree, have switched to Kaspersky. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 07:05, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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	Hey Calisber, regarding edit...I'm glad to see you liked the template! It's still very much a work in progress and there are still a lot of issues we're trying to resolve (such as making it less confusing/intimidating for new contributors), so if you have any thoughts on things you didn't like about it, things that could be improved, etc., you are more then welcome to share them at my page or at ]! Also, by the way, congratulations on your performance in the ArbCom elections. &mdash;]&nbsp;<small><sup>''']'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>''']'''</sub></small> 15:06, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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	Hey BL, did you ever think of contacting someone like Richie Benaud and asking if they wanted to donate some "off-cut" photos to wikipedia? May be a good way to get some images of players from 1960s anyway. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 12:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
	:I have a little bit recently, that I met and talked to Dr ], the curator of the ] museum and ] at a cricket mini-conference. Dr Whimpress did ask me to explain what WP was about and perhaps give a talk about it to the Australian Society of Sports Historians, although GH chortled, perhaps sardonically. when I metnioned that his work was quoted on WP! Nevermind, we'll see what happens as I've been told that my blogpost about Jack Iverson was passed onto GH. I wonder if it was wel reeived though. Also apparently ] teh ABC radio commentator goes to the ASSH although not when I was there this month. Perhaps I can twist his arm lol. ''']''' ('']'') 00:53, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
	::i will keep me fingers crossed...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
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	Hi, just a quick note to say I think your answer to my question concerning DE is perceptive - aqnd I hope you will make specific constructive concrete suggestions on the DE talk page, or help edit it to the point where it could be a viable policy. One comment, though, concerning the proposal you forwarded that got shot down: I think the flaw with your proposal is that it as an attempt to create a litmus test to identify "disruptive editors" i.e. a class of people. I think any such attempt however well intended will draw a lot of fire. I think a better approach is to come up with criteria for patterns of disruptive editing (i.e. that seeks to classify patterns of edits rather than kinds of editors) because I think this can be applied with more flexibility and take into account varying contexts. ] | ] 01:45, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
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	::Yeah, so far I have been doing mainly article writing, and it was a first attempt, and alot of editors whose editing patterns I was pointing out were around to comment. They have remembered it too for this arb election. Agree about taking a step back to look at the overview and focus on editing rather than editor. We'll get there ;) Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:30, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 5, 2024) ==
	Hi Casliber. I was wondering if you could move the ] page at DYK to ]. It has been six hours since the last update and no-one else seems to be around. ] (] | ]) 00:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
	== DYK... ==
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	…that there are ] to facing the humiliation of surrender? Cheers, ] 12:09, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
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	: So, what's the proper way to {{tlx|Cite book}}, or whatever for a Google scan such as ? I've read this book, but it was a borrow; I could probably get it again, next week.
	:: ''A Short History of Bali: Indonesia's Hindu Realm''‎ - Page 106
	:: by Robert Pringle
	: It's already on en:wp; here ], for example.
	: Cheers, ] 06:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:: Screw that; I just bought a new copy for only ]385,000. It's a good book and will come in handy. Also, my friend Charles has loaned his copy out, again. Cheers, ] 07:34, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== Mentor request ==
	:::They have added a nifty citation add-on to edit tools - look to top right of edit box. great for inline refs. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 08:17, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
			Hi,
	:::: This? <nowiki><ref>Insert footnote text here</ref></nowiki>
	:::: It's easier to just type. I added a bunch of cite books where above book was already being used. There really should be a better mechanism for using one cite book (et al) with different page arguments. And I wish ]'s ] worked with FF3. I also added a list item per your suggestion. Cheers, ] 11:04, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
			seeing that you're the only one of the mentors listed at ] naming astronomy among his interests, I would like to request mentoring from you before an FA nomination of ]. For some background: I achieved GA for that article back in 2018, and have recently restored it to that level. I have attempted to bring an article to FA once (in a completely different field: railways), but aborted it for some reason - after lots of work based on helpful reviews, which taught me about some finer points of the English language and citation templates -, and it was 13 years ago, so I barely remember it & standards probably changed a lot since.] (]) 17:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
	No no, when you open up a edit-text box, the right-most tab just above it is citation. click on it. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 11:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
			:Heh, I'll take a look. Cool article BTW. ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
			::If you have the time, could you please take another look at the article, and tell it it's now ready for FA nomination? Over the past two weeks, I have re-ordered the history, impacts & close approaches sections in a sequence that seems logical, trimmed some sections covered in greater detail in linked articles, and changed access/archive date format after all. ] (]) 09:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 6, 2024) ==
	: Ya, and it generates the above boilerplate. I don't use most of those buttons. Jonathan's tool generated an entire, ''filled-in'', cite template when you invoked it ''on some other'' website (right-click…); read page titles, meta tags, and filled in the fields pretty well. But it's broken, now (i.e. FF3 API changed). Cheers. ] 12:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
	: Ah! you meant ] which has to be turned on in prefs, which I've just done. Cheers. ] 06:44, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
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	…that ] should have over 5,000 articles in it? Cheers, ] 08:47, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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	I'm tired of these DYK double standards put forth by Art's supporters. It really needs to end. It was never like this until they started rewriting everything this summer. was written because they keep redefining what is "prose". Prose meant the body of the text, including everything encyclopedic. But no, quoting your sources no longer counts. Quoting the author on his work no longer matters. Hell, they try to discount sections that are merely "similar" to another page. No more background for literature, that's too much like the biography, even if they are different! This really needs to end. I'm tired of this. It really needs to stop. The double standards need to be erased. ] (]) 03:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:I have a mild/moderate influenza-like viral illness at the moment (in December????? weird, we had a cold snap recently but me having a cold in summer is ridculous but tehre you go...). This is making my head spin. I may make a point, would it have been simpler to ask for a ] on quotes? Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:06, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
	:: was the page. See how the quotes are used? Very critical info and hard not to use it. ] (]) 06:20, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
	:::Also, my wording would promote more science articles that rely on charts and such for content. ] (]) 06:24, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
			The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.
	:: Just noticed this thread; have a ''Hot Lemon'' at Dewa Warung, it'll clear things right up. Or a ''Ginger Jive'' at Iggy's. Cheers, ] 07:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
			Our current leader is newcomer {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Generalissima}}, who has one FA on ] and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:
	:::OK Ottava, I see what has happened. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 08:16, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
	::::It seems to be based on reinterpreting the word prose and the word new. New merely meant that the article was either expanded, or just created. Now its being used to say the content in the article must be "new". As I pointed out, this completely goes against the concept of ] in principle, would remove any ability to rely on important quotes, on excerpts, etc, and would destroy connections to other pages. But the biggest problem is that the "new" is not contained, meaning that they say it must be new, but if you expand the page 5x and still count the original content, you only actually expanded the page 4x. The fact that this was never a problem and that many of my pages were passed without this ever being an issue only verifies that this is a new phenomena and should be dealt with. 4 other people agreed that the "unwritten rules" were problematic, and three believed in my wording, yet they closed the discussion, Gato threatened Rlevse for his comment, and now he is threatening to "deal" with me because I called him out on having no basis for his actions. This is very problematic. ] (]) 19:30, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
	::::Also, the pages were already going through on IAR and people still caused a dispute. ] (]) 19:33, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|AirshipJungleman29}}, with one FA on ], two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, and two DYKs;
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			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Vami IV}}, with one FA on ], one GA on ], and 11 reviews;
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			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Skyshifter}}, with one FA on ] and one DYK;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Sammi Brie}}, with five GAs and five DYKs on television and radio stations;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|voorts}} and {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Elli}}, both with one FA and one DYK each.
			As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on ]. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on ] and the judges ({{User|Cwmhiraeth}}, {{User|Epicgenius}}, and {{User|Frostly}}) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from ].</small> ] (]) 17:57, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
	Hiya, in response to your message at my talkpage, are you sure you got the right person? I have no idea what you're talking about. --]]] 21:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 7, 2024) ==
	::If the problem is someone edit warring on a page (i.e. ]) (WRT the Ashley Kennedy3 incident), and you think they will use an IP and continue to edit war on a page while logged out, then consider blocking the person (and not IP) and semi-protecting the page. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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	You may only have received 92%, but you are a 100% in my eyes. Haha. :) ] (]) 00:11, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:Well done. Looks like the annual December ritual case is coming up for your debut. ''']''' ('']'') 04:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 8, 2024) ==
	Peace,<br />]<br /><includeonly>~~</includeonly>~<includeonly>~~</includeonly>
	<small>A record of your Day will always be kept ].</small>
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			! <div style="margin:0; background-color:#E2E7FF; border:1px solid blue; text-align:center; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.4em; padding-bottom: 0.4em; padding-right: 0.4em; font-weight:normal">{{AFI/Picture box|week=2024/8}} Hello, Casliber. The ] of the week is:
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			== Beer ==
			I obviously owe you one. Thanks! ] (]) 21:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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			|style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Heh one day... ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 9, 2024) ==
	For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see ] and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it.
	You were on my list for this anyway, but you get today because I salute anyone who can survive an en wiki arbcom election and stay over 90%! You may one day regret being so successful ;-)<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:49, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
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	* +Me, too. R's right, though; you may regret this, the squabbles aren't over birds; it's more like a ]. Cheers, ] 07:56, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
			! <div style="margin:0; background-color:#E2E7FF; border:1px solid blue; text-align:center; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.4em; padding-bottom: 0.4em; padding-right: 0.4em; font-weight:normal">{{AFI/Picture box|week=2024/9}} Hello, Casliber. The ] of the week is:
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	Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, but couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
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			== WikiCup 2024 March newsletter ==
	Well done!
			The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.
	I'm sure Wiki will benefit, but I hope we look after you well enough that you don't suffer for your generosity.
			The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:
	Happy Cas Liber day! :D
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Generalissima}}, who has 916 points mostly from one FA on ], 15 GAs, and 16 DYKs on a variety of topics including New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures, in addition to seven reviews
	] (]) 01:01, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Vami IV}}, who has 790 points from two FAs on ] and ], two GAs, one DYK, and 11 reviews
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|AirshipJungleman29}}, who has 580 points from one FA on ], two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, two DYKs, and five reviews
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Sammi Brie}}, who has 420 points mostly from nine GAs and seven DYKs on television and radio stations
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|MaranoFan}}, who has 351 points from one FA on ], a nine-article FT on ], and three DYKs
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Skyshifter}}, who has 345 points from one FA on ], one DYK and two reviews
			In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Vami IV}}, who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five ] articles, eight other good articles, and two ]s. Vami also wrote an essay on ], a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his ].
	::Hehehe, thanks all, more later, gotta eat... :) Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:12, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
			Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on ]. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on ], and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from ].</small> ] (]) 00:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 10, 2024) ==
	] &mdash; congratulations, Cas. It's great to see you there. And on the note of whether or not your content contributions will suffer, I am of the opinion that you're a benefit to the site however you opt to assist. Even if you aren't as active in content (it would most definitely be missed), it's still clear you'd have changed priorities, and I find it appropriate to encourage that.
	You're a fair, intelligent, and uncontroversial editor and administrator, and I'm sure you'll do great on the ArbCom. ] (]) 07:07, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:Congratulations on your near-certain election and the resounding support from across the various strata of the community. It's really heartening to see that your excellent work has been noticed. You will do great. Just keep an eye out for countertransference... :P ''']'''&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 19:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
			! <div style="margin:0; background-color:#E2E7FF; border:1px solid blue; text-align:center; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.4em; padding-bottom: 0.4em; padding-right: 0.4em; font-weight:normal">{{AFI/Picture box|week=2024/10}} Hello, Casliber. The ] of the week is:
	::Congrats, Cas. Good luck! ]''']''' 20:48, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
	:::I think AC has the effect of making article writers more appreciative of writing articles, after they see what can go on....So hopefully you'll be greater than ever before. ''']''' ('']'') 04:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
	::::My congratulations also, Cas. We need such talent in high places, democratic though WP is. All best wishes.–<font color="blue"><sub>''']'''</sub><sup>¡ɐɔıʇǝo</sup><big><big>N</big></big><small>oetica!</small></font><sup>]</sup>– 07:11, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
	:::::Bravo, mon ami! Sincerement, --]<sup>'']''</sup> 07:13, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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	== DYK nomination of Wally Grout ==
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	] Hello! {{#ifeq:yes|no|Your article {{#if:Wally Grout|]&nbsp;}}was recently nominated at ] to be featured on the main page. The nomination has now been reviewed, and}}{{#ifeq:yes|yes|Your submission {{#if:Wally Grout|of ]{{#if:|&nbsp;and ]}}}} at the ] has been reviewed, and}} there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath {{#if:Wally Grout|''']'''{{#if:|Template talk:DYK#Articles created/expanded on {{{date}}}}}|your nomination's entry}} and respond there as soon as possible. Just thought I should give you a break from all the congratulations messages ;). {{#ifeq:no|yes|&mdash;]&nbsp;<small><sup>''']'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>''']'''</sub></small> 15:26, 15 December 2008 (UTC)}}<!--Template:DYKproblem--> &mdash;]&nbsp;<small><sup>''']'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>''']'''</sub></small> 15:26, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
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	== DYK for Andean Cock-of-the-rock ==
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	}}{{#if:|, and ''''']'''''}}, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the ].
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	== Random Millipedes ==
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	Hello again. I may be back for real this time round and have just realized how slim Misplaced Pages's coverage of millipedes is. I've chipped in with two genera, but was wondering if you could translate the scientific names. The genera are ] and ]. Thank you. ] (]) 03:37, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
			Please be bold and help improve it!
	:I will look when I get home later. Should be straightforward; good to see you back :) Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:44, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I ==
	== clean-up in aisle 6 ==
			Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the ] is now '''no longer accepting new proposals'''. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving ]'s structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:
	* ]
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|HouseBlaster}}, provides for the addition of a text box at ] reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
	Situation is well explained there; a naughty kid evading his prior block. Not very active lately.
			* ''']''' and ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Barkeep49}} and {{noping|Usedtobecool}}, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|SilkTork}}, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
			* ''']''' and ''']''', initiated by {{noping|BilledMammal}}, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Lee Vilenski}}, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Reaper Eternal}}, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
			* ''']''', ''']''', and ''']''', initiated by {{noping|City of Silver}}, {{u|Ritchie333}}, and {{u|HouseBlaster}}, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Novem Lingaue}}, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Kusma}}, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
			* ''']''' and ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Thebiguglyalien}} and {{noping|Soni}}, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the ]; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|BilledMammal}}, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|SchroCat}}, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|theleekycauldron}}, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|SportingFlyer}}, provides for a more robust alternate version of the ].
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|Femke}}, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|WereSpielChequers}}, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
			* ''']''', initiated by {{noping|HouseBlaster}}, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.
			To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see ]. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! ] (] • she/her), via:
	And aisle 7; could you please undelete;
			] (]) 10:52, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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			== Reminder: GA backlog drive ==
	It's just a redirect, I think, but there are links to it from archives and such, including yours.
			Hello! Just a reminder that, if you have time, you are welcome to join the ]; it runs until the end of March. You are receiving this message because you ] but have not yet listed any reviews. We hope to see you there! Either way, happy editing! —] (]) 18:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
	Cheers,
			== TCC 2024 ==
	] 10:45, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
			Hi Cas, any interest in judging again for TCC this year? Myself and Femke are already interested. If you're too busy, I'm happy to find someone else. Best – '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">]]</span>''' 05:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
	:Regarding TLazzo, I have thrown it open to consensus...see how folks feel about giving folks second chances...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 12:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
			:Happy to do so. Will head over to look at discussion. ] (] '''·''' ]) 07:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	:: I have no issue with a second chance here. I do want the attack on the user page removed. Cheers, ] 12:41, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
	:: I've redacted the 'jerk' bit on Lazzo's user page, left him another note, and marked the ani thread as resolved. Thanks for restoring the Sudradjat redirect. Cheers, ] 09:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
			I just made a few small edits; feel free to revert or discuss. - Dank (]) 16:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
	== Huia ==
			:They're good/improvements. thx. ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 13, 2024) ==
	Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I've been a bit inactive of late... no doubt I will get back into Misplaced Pages eventually, but there has been a lot going on in the real world this year realistically I couldn't commit to much at the mo. ] (]) 20:14, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
	:No probs, this don't put food on the table. take care. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 22:18, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
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	== Hmm ==
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	Am I allowed to make a ] closure and say congrats on making ArbCom? I sure hope you'll still be producing content through that mess. <font face="Gill Sans MT">]&nbsp;→(]→]&nbsp;→])</font> 02:41, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
	:Also btw, you owe yourself a Flaming Joel-wiki. <font face="Gill Sans MT">]&nbsp;→(]→]&nbsp;→])</font> 02:47, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
			Please be bold and help improve it!
	::Yea, I know..but I can't just ''give'' it to meself...or can I ''(chuckles evilly)'' ....Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 14:19, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:::Question. Would you be interested in possibly working on some kind of ] animal article in the future with me? I've never quite gotten to work on an animal article, and I'm sure it would be fun. <font face="Gill Sans MT">]&nbsp;→(]→]&nbsp;→])</font> 13:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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	::::I was planning on doing ] some time. Let me thnk about a few ideas that grab me...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:43, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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	That made me laugh too. I've been attracting my fair share of bad karma it seems. Better get on more translations for you - just give the word. ] (]) 06:30, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== Move protection of ] ==
	Happy New Year to you mate. ] (]) 03:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
			In 2015, you had protected the page to temporarily restrict edits to autoconfirmed editors and at the same time, indefinitely restrict moves to sysops only. Is it OK with you to have the move protection to be dropped? ] (]) 03:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
	== Congratulations and good luck ==
			:Sure. Done. ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:52, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 14, 2024) ==
	I decided I couldn't wait until the hour itself. I just dropped by to extend my warmest congratulations to you for your election to your new position. Since it's pretty much in the bag I don't see why a pre-emptive "well done" is undue. Best of luck - I hope you can provide some common-sensical relief on the Committee. I also wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Kindest regards, Josh. &mdash;<strong>]</strong>] 14:47, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
	:Why thank you very much ''(in best Elvis voice)''...we'll see today I think. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 21:21, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
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	::Oddly enough, I went to Walmart the other day and picked up a copy of '']'' for my mom... Best, --]<sup>'']''</sup> 07:11, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
			! <div style="margin:0; background-color:#E2E7FF; border:1px solid blue; text-align:center; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.4em; padding-bottom: 0.4em; padding-right: 0.4em; font-weight:normal">{{AFI/Picture box|week=2024/14}} Hello, Casliber. The ] of the week is:
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	=== The essence of judgment ===
			Please be bold and help improve it!
	].]]
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	In this interval between the close of Arbcom voting and whatever comes next, this could be a timely opportunity to share a bit of wisdom attributed to ], the founder of Japan's ]. I modestly offer a translation of the calligraphy -- with an emphasis not in the original:
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	:Life is like walking along a long road shouldering a heavy load; there is no need to hurry.
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	:Patience is the source of eternal peace; treat anger as an enemy.
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	I hope this becomes helpful in the year ahead. --] (]) 04:40, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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			Thank you today for the beautiful ], introduced (in 2010): "What's not to like? The state emblem and a darn fine flower at that....and it's been attracting birds and looking nice and red for over 60 million years....."! - I ], and if you see me just naming one "red flower" and know better, please correct ;) -- ] (]) 06:29, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
			plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --] (]) 20:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
	::Please to God say that the hidden Casliber scandal is not about to be unleashed on Misplaced Pages. I hope that you're being good-incoming-arbitrator cautious, not ] confident. :) (Although that could put Misplaced Pages over the top as a TV-network reality show, hmmm, might draw in some donations...).
	::Cas, I'll add my congratulations. Previous job well done, here's hoping the next one will be executed with similar quality! ] (]) 05:48, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
			== WikiCup 2024 April newsletter ==
	; See also
	* ]
	Cheers, ] 08:20, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
			We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round.
	== Australia Day GA ==
			Our current top scorers are as follows:
	Hi Casliber! I have made the improvements you suggested at the ] article, and left a note at the ] page.] (] | ]) 05:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Sammi Brie}} with 642 points, mostly from 11 ]s about radio and television;
	== refactoring ==
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|voorts}} with 530 points, mostly from two FAs (] and ]) and three GAs;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Generalissima}} with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|SounderBruce}} with 497 points, mostly from a ] about the ] and two GAs;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Tamzin}} with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink ] and three GAs;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Kusma}} with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist ] and a GA.
			Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on ]. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from ] to receive more points.
	want more of your user space refactored? Cheers, ] 08:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
			If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please read ]. Further questions are welcome on ] and the judges ({{User|Cwmhiraeth}}, {{User|Epicgenius}}, and {{User|Frostly}}) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from ].</small> ] (]) 15:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
	:In the immortal words of Bob Hope when asked about his funeral arrangements, "surprise me" Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:42, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 16, 2024) ==
	== DYK for Wally Grout ==
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	|On ], ], ''']''' was updated with {{#if:|facts|a fact}} from the article{{#if:|s|}} ''''']'''''{{#if:|{{#if:|, |, and}} ''''']'''''
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			! <div style="margin:0; background-color:#E2E7FF; border:1px solid blue; text-align:center; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.4em; padding-bottom: 0.4em; padding-right: 0.4em; font-weight:normal">{{AFI/Picture box|week=2024/16}} Hello, Casliber. The ] of the week is:
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	I'm chipped in my 2c, thanks for the nudge.--] 00:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
			Please be bold and help improve it!
	:Cool. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:46, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 17, 2024) ==
	== Glad I was on Holiday ==
	Per
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	your statement at
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	I've not followed much of what's been going on here, but do recall that you were a named party to E&C2 ;)
			! <div style="margin:0; background-color:#E2E7FF; border:1px solid blue; text-align:center; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.4em; padding-bottom: 0.4em; padding-right: 0.4em; font-weight:normal">{{AFI/Picture box|week=2024/17}} Hello, Casliber. The ] of the week is:
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	Cheers, ] 06:18, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
			Please be bold and help improve it!
	*It needs to be in recused/party bit, I will recuse as an arb from this one. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 08:37, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 18, 2024) ==
	== Wow ==
	Congratulations, ''mate'' ;) ]<small>&nbsp;(]·])</small> 13:05, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:Don't worry, I haven't ] - was just trying to make 50 bird FAs and GAs before dec 31, though probably failed now...:( Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 13:15, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
			! <div style="margin:0; background-color:#E2E7FF; border:1px solid blue; text-align:center; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.4em; padding-bottom: 0.4em; padding-right: 0.4em; font-weight:normal">{{AFI/Picture box|week=2024/18}} Hello, Casliber. The ] of the week is:
	::You haven't forgotten, but I had... :( A lot on my mind lately. ]<small>&nbsp;(]·])</small> 15:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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	Well done, hopefully the AC seat will make you write more vigourously as it did to me. ''']''' ('']'') 05:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
			Please be bold and help improve it!
	== de-trouted ==
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	{{resolved|1=class="plainlinks" on the wrapper-div. Cheers, ] 15:26, 21 December 2008 (UTC)}}
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	I've commented-out the trout bit in the prologue for now; there are issues with the padlock icon when using secure login, which you should probably start using really soon as they're about about to canonize your account with divine powers — things like healing socks by the laying on of hands, turning Grawp into a 2 inch pillar of snot…
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			== WikiCup 2024 May newsletter ==
	You'll likely be getting much advice from the vast conspiracy types. I'll look into the poor fish and see what I can do; I have a similar issue on my page. Tears, ] 15:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
			The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.
	]
	; Phaedriel's orchid
			The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:
	Rlevse suggested moving this to Commons, but it needs a proper name; any idea? or know someone who might? I saw that you were goosing the icon sizes up, but I had other tweaks in-hand. I'll bump'em; part of what I was looking to maintain was nice baseline alignment with the rule across the top. Cheers, ] 03:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Sammi Brie}} with 707 points, mostly from 45 ] reviews and 12 ]s about radio and television;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Generalissima}} with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 ] nominations about coinage and history;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|SounderBruce}} with 552 points, mostly from a ] about the ], three ], and two good articles;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|BennyOnTheLoose}} with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player ], two featured lists, and one good article;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|voorts}} with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (] and ]) and three good articles.
			The full scores for Round 2 can be seen ]. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 ] credits and at least 200 ] credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to ] and ].
	:No idea, you can post to wikiproject plants or even look at plants of the area and see what comes up. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:07, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
			Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on ].
	:: Thanks; ]. Cheers, ] 03:40, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
			If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see ]. Further questions are welcome on ] and the judges ({{User|Cwmhiraeth}}, {{User|Epicgenius}}, and {{User|Frostly}}) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from ].</small> ] (]) 13:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
	== Happy First Day Of Winter! ==
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			== Problematic digital media use and Major depressive disorder ==
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			Hello there! I noticed that the Digital media addictions subsection from the Major depressive disorder article that was excerpted the Digital media use and mental health article Depression subsection. Considering that you are a psychiatrist and helped get the Major depressive disorder article up to featured article status (per your user page), I was wondering if you'd be willing to trim that section on the Digital media use and mental health article in accordance with WP:MEDSAY. I've been trying to improve the Digital media use and mental health article (hopefully to featured status if possible), initially by just tracking down systematic reviews and meta-analyses that find associations between the various problematic digital media use categories and recognized mental health disorders by the DSM and ICD and other human factors issues associated with problematic digital media use. Unfortunately, I am not a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist so all I can do is look things up using Google Scholar and often do not have access to entire articles. Another editor has raised issues with the article's layout at its talk page, if you have the time to comment on it. Thanks! -- ] (]) 01:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Okay, difficult topic and I have little time for the stuff I want to prioritise on as is. First thing, some context is good but too much is unnecessary - e.g. paragraph is just too distant from the topic at hand. Am even unconvinced about whether the remaining paragraph is needed (leaning to not but need to read and think some more) ] (] '''·''' ]) 02:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			== RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins ==
	Congrats on your appointment to the Arbcom and Best of Luck :)! --] (]) 17:24, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
			Hi there! Phase I of the ] has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:
	== Name that cockpuppet ==
	{{resolved|username blocked}}
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	I can, after just one edit. Cheers, ] 03:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
			* '''Proposals 2 and 9b''' (''']'''): ] and ]
	== Huia push ==
			* '''Proposal 3b''' (in trial): ]
			* '''Proposal 13''' (in trial): ]
			* '''Proposal 14''' (implemented): ]
			* '''Proposals 16 and 16c''' (''']'''): ] and ]
			* '''Proposal 17''' (''']'''): ]
			* '''Proposal 24''' (''']'''): ]
			* '''Proposal 25''' (implemented): ]
			See the ] for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. ] (]), via ] (]) 08:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 19, 2024) ==
	Hi Casliber. Apologies for the late reply, I am pretty busy these days and don't log into wikipedia very often - what with working full time and all.. I used to contribute to wikipedia a lot more when I had free time to burn when I was at uni; I realize that many wikipedians who contribute a lot work full time but it's a balancing act I'm yet to master myself. I kinda wish I'd seen your message earlier but at the same time, unfortunately, I'm not 100% sure I'll be able help out with Huia. That said, I really, really want to and I will look into mustering sufficient references which I can use to flesh out the article out - it would be great to be instrumental in getting this one to GA or FA. Happy holidays!] (]) 08:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
	:No probs, any help is good. There will be plenty of NZ birds to bolster later :) Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:37, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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	== Graham Colm RfA ==
			! <div style="margin:0; background-color:#E2E7FF; border:1px solid blue; text-align:center; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.4em; padding-bottom: 0.4em; padding-right: 0.4em; font-weight:normal">{{AFI/Picture box|week=2024/19}} Hello, Casliber. The ] of the week is:
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	Hi Casliber,
			Please be bold and help improve it!
	Thanks for offering to nominate me and I, of course, accept. I have answered the questions and I think the page is ready to be transcluded. ] Thanks once more. Graham. ] ] 13:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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	: If y'all can give me until tonight, I can add on the co-nom ... just can't get to it yet, and don't like to write those in a rush. (If you want to go ahead without me, no problem either.) ] (]) 14:47, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
			Previous selections: {{Misplaced Pages:Articles for improvement/2024/18/1}}&nbsp;• {{Misplaced Pages:Articles for improvement/2024/17/1}}
	::Sandy, I would really appreciate your nominating, especially since you looked after me so kindly during my first months here. Graham . ] ] 14:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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	::: OK, give me until tonight (12 hours or so); lots of Christmas prep to get through today. ] (]) 15:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:::: Why was this transcluded by Aude ????? ] (]) 18:07, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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	::::: I removed on it; will set aside other priorities and finish it now. ] (]) 18:11, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 20, 2024) ==
	:::::: ''(wakes up, bleary eyed...)'' boy, did I miss some fun, ok, oh we're live...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
	Hey, Cas, I'm hoping to be No. 100, but it may hit while I'm sleeping. If so, all yours. ] (]) 23:29, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
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	== Remember Last Night? ==
			! <div style="margin:0; background-color:#E2E7FF; border:1px solid blue; text-align:center; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.4em; padding-bottom: 0.4em; padding-right: 0.4em; font-weight:normal">{{AFI/Picture box|week=2024/20}} Hello, Casliber. The ] of the week is:
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	Per your advice in the GAN for Dracula's Daughter, I put together a little something for '']''. ] (]) 00:59, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
			Please be bold and help improve it!
	== Identification of a bird ==
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			== Nomination of ] for deletion ==
	Hey Casliber,
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			The article will be discussed at ''']''' until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
	I hope you don't mind me coming and asking this on your talk page, but I took a photo of a bird in Sydney today, and since you're local I thought I might ask for your help. This is the photo: ], and I don't know what it is. I couldn't find anything similar in the articles ] and ]. It doesn't look like a magpie, but the white on its tail tips, wings a fair bit more on the underside had me confused, and so I couldn't convince myself it was a raven either. Thanks for your time. Cheers, ] (]) 03:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:It is a ]. Usually they lair up in trees - how did you get above it? Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:01, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
	::Ahh, thanks for that. I was on a balcony three stories up, and while most of them liked to stay high up in the trees, they were more than happy to move down a bit lower when I threw some food on the ground for them :) Cheers, ] (]) 08:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 21, 2024) ==
	== DYK redux... ==
	DYK that this “]″ has no article at all on ]?
	:''“The philosophy of Saraswati Day is that the most important thing for human life is knowledge.”''
	; See also
	* ]
	No Cheers, ] 05:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
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	== fyi re captions are off-center ==
			! <div style="margin:0; background-color:#E2E7FF; border:1px solid blue; text-align:center; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.4em; padding-bottom: 0.4em; padding-right: 0.4em; font-weight:normal">{{AFI/Picture box|week=2024/21}} Hello, Casliber. The ] of the week is:
	{{resolved|1=<span style="text-transform: lowercase;">Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of pages fixed. Merry-Wiki-Christmas, ] 05:52, 25 December 2008 (UTC)</span>}}
	You'll probably not want to jump-in and perform the requested edit, but you might like to keep tabs on the discussion and result. This impacts hundreds of thousands of pages.
			<span style="font-size:140%;">'''{{Misplaced Pages:Articles for improvement/2024/21/1}}'''</span>
	If this issue has, in fact, deterred many folks from using proper captions, it amounts to a profound long-term setback for the projects. Having semantically correct captions on tables is core to proper accessibility of pages to things like screen readers and to correct analysis of page content by search engines.
	* ]
	Cheers, ] 08:50, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
			Please be bold and help improve it!
	== Daft question ==
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	See ]. What do I do to claim my trophy? --] (]) 14:48, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
	:Why the nice broom of course! Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:54, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
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	Congratulations on that slaughtering success! Make all of us at ] proud :) —''']''' (] · ] · ]) 20:16, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:Thx - much appreciated. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 13:59, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 23, 2024) ==
	Before you hand out too many ''BLP Cleanup Broom Trophies'' you might look at prior awards using that image:
	* see: ]
	* and ]
	Happy Holidays (you be real busy soon after), ] 12:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
	: I thought you'd like seeing the broom reused. Something prosaic and humbling 'bout a broom ''(just a mere janitor/cleaner-upperer)'' Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 13:59, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:: Oh, I do like the image; it has wide applicability. fyi; you'll have seen all the complaints about the wiki's term 'cruft' as being uncivil... I made a number of comments during the E&C1/2 time-frame referring to the concept of ] in the same vein; pesky bugs that need to be kept out of our library lest they eat away at the very glue that holds this encyclopaedia together. So, redlinks to watch for;
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	::Cheers, ] 06:43, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
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	Merry Christmas to you, Sir and congratulations on the impending appointment to the Committee! I campaigned heavily against you, but seeing as you won, I'm going to change sides! - Have a great Christmas, friend! Keep it safe and fun! :-) (I didn't really campaign against you ;-) ]] 12:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 24, 2024) ==
	:Heh, Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 13:58, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
	== And now, for Fvasconcellos' traditional nonsectarian holiday greeting! ==
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	|align="center"|<big>'''W'''</big>herever you are, and whether you're celebrating something or not, there is always a reason to spread the holiday spirit! So, may you have a great day, and may all your wishes be fulfilled in 2009! ]<small>&nbsp;(]·])</small> 14:25, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== Mr. Two Hundred Thousand ==
	Thanks for making 2008 an interesting and enlightening year for me; I shall look forward to working with you on the Arbitration Committee in the coming year. </br>
	Wishing you and yours a joyous holiday season, and happiness, health and hopefulness in 2009. I trust you'll enjoy this little token, a favourite performance of , for your holiday amusement. </br> Best, ] (]) 22:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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			:''(Hyuk hyuk hyuk)'' fair point. I keep trying to reignite the fire...but hard competing as I've returned to being a DnD DM...competing priorities...sigh ] (] '''·''' ]) 02:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 25, 2024) ==
	== Unitarian? ==
	I would think that "Merry f'ing Christmas" would be exactly opposites of what the ] message would be. :P But back at you. :) ] (]) 23:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
	:Aww! I'm sorry! I didn't mean for you to change it. I just enjoyed the irony. :) ] (]) 23:39, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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	Thanks, same to you- your message seemed to get lost in with another. Also, congratulations on your recent appointment- I didn't vote, but I certainly followed it with interest. ] (])
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	Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{]:]}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
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	== DYK for Hooded Butcherbird ==
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	==Christmas song==
	heh, too late, we've already played it as our contribution to the Christmas festivities! Still, thanks for the thought and best wishes for Christmas. Now, where did I put that robin? ] (]) 06:16, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
			The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:
	==Meh...rry Christmas==
	Having had no business with the talk pages of ArbCom members until this page became one, it comes as a disappointing surprise to discover how assiduously you guys are trolled. And courted too, but especially trolled. :-( You probably better not reply to this; probably someone would keep the diff in their pocket as proof of... who know what these people think?
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Generalissima}} with 1,059 points, mostly from 1 ] on ], 11 ], 18 ] nominations, and dozens of reviews;
	Merry Christmas, anyhow. I haven't followed the link yet as I'm on a very low bandwidth connection at the moment. But it's the thought that counts etc. Hope you and your family had a great day. ] 11:43, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Skyshifter}} with 673 points, mostly from 2 featured articles on ] and ], 5 good articles, and 2 did you know nominations;
	==Xmas==
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Sammi Brie}} with 557 points, mostly from 1 featured article on ], 5 good articles, and 8 did you know nominations; and
	Nice one :), thanks for the xmas message. Cheers - ] | ] 22:05, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|AryKun}} with 415 points, mostly from 1 featured article on ], with a high number of bonus points from that article.
			The full scores for round 3 can be seen ]. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 ] credits, and at least 285 ] credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to ] and ].
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	I've listed an article I've been working on for ], I noticed in the list of participants you mentioned your were interested in food/drink. If you could take a quick gander at the article I'd appreciate it!
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	Hey, many thanks for taking the time to have a look! I really appreciate it, I'll work on the article based on your tips. Thanks again!
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			== This week's ] (week 27, 2024) ==
	::Let me know when you've added some more. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 12:31, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
	:Hey there, I've worked on the article a bit and wonder if you could take another wee look at it? Cheers <font color="Blue">]</font><font color="Green">]</font> <sup>(]•])</sup> 22:06, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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	My Christmas is now complete. ] <sup><small>]</small></sup>] 22:59, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
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	==Hey there Doc==
	Merry Christmas, and congratulations on your election. I was wondering if I could have a moment of your time. Something about your post in ANI thread caught my attention. You mentioned the screed at ] as an example of a more offensive userpage left by a user retiring in a huff. It struck me as funny, since I had contributed to the RFAR that exposed Alkivar and represented one of several users he was railing against on his userpage. I brought it up on AN shortly after he was desysopped and "retired" (to avoid the 1 year ban ArbCom was about to enact). I argued it was inappropriate and chilling against participation for a user to be able to give a final "F-You" to the community by retiring and leaving a snarly epitaph that his/her supporters can rally to protect, thus granting a privilege and implicit status unavailable to a normal banned user that propagated the appearance of admin favoritism amongst rank and file editors. Nobody's raising hell over any other banned editor's right to leave a permanent nasty monument in userspace. I was told sharply by several of his supporters that I was "Kicking a man while he's down" ("down"="effectively banned", apparently) and the thread was closed within the day as "No admin action required".
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	This is just for a historical perspective. It just seems particularly galling to me now, however, since it again drives home the appearance that unpopular users get banned while unpopular admins (and users with admin devotees) get to "retire" and leave a monument to their anti-sociality to be forever guarded by their compatriots. I respect your opinion on this, so do you have any thoughts on how I can help with this issue? <span style="font-family:impact, serif;background:black;color:red;border-style:single;letter-spacing:1px">Bullzeye</span><small><sup><i>]</i></sup></small> 00:50, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:Interesting - I am running round like a headless chicken today. Can you send me the diffs? Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
	::Hey, thanks for responding. I will chase them up if you'd like, but I'm not trying to drum up old drama. I don't want anyone to think I'm prosecuting a grudge. It just piqued my interest that somebody else seemed to agree with me so long after the fact. <span style="font-family:impact, serif;background:black;color:red;border-style:single;letter-spacing:1px">Bullzeye</span><small><sup><i>]</i></sup></small> 22:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
	:::Yeah, I ''am'' curious how the conversation went. I am not too fussed in the presence or absence of both or either, but was mainly interested in points made (and comparing them). Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 06:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
	:Hey, I ] it. I forgot that it wasn't even me that initiated it. My recall is otherwise, as predicted, rather crappy, as it looks like it lasted longer than I thought. Looks like you voted against it at the time, too. O_o <span style="font-family:impact, serif;background:black;color:red;border-style:single;letter-spacing:1px">Bullzeye</span><small><sup><i>]</i></sup></small> 03:20, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
	:Gosh, that was so memorable I...forgot all about it. Ah well, now did anyone vote keep on that and delete Lawlords I wonder..... Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:41, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
	::Heh. Doesn't really matter I guess. I realize "consensus can change" TM, but my ultimate wish is to see both consistency and equality applied to policy. We seem to get into the most trouble on issues which are emotionally charged; either the person involved has the necessary political support to survive the debate, or they don't. Politics is our enemy here. 8 months ago consensus was outraged and unwilling to alter Alkivar's userpage by a single letter; now LawLord is universally pilloried for his. Either consensus has changed fundamentally, or LawLord has less noisy friends. Ryan Postlethwaite and Krimpet's comments were especially illuminating to me on that MFD; admins don't generally wail loudly about "railroading off the project" and "kicking a man when he's down" over anybody who isn't a personal friend who's image they're trying to protect. Nutshell: In my eyes, doing that is not okay, as it degenerates from "this-and-this is okay/not okay on a user-page" to "I'm an admin, so-and-so is my admin friend. Full stop." type thing. <span style="font-family:impact, serif;background:black;color:red;border-style:single;letter-spacing:1px">Bullzeye</span><small><sup><i>]</i></sup></small> 20:39, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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	What's up? I see that you already got your share of Christmasy greetings, so I'll just wish you Happy Kwanzaa! (though I barely know what that is...) By the way, I'm trying to track down a book covering the ], how about another summer FA drive in 2009? - ] 23:17, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:Nice one. Article in not too bad a shape. Let me know once you get the book. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:Something you might enjoy ... looking at when it is finished.
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	:A ''lot'' of work to be done here.
	:I'll be away for about a month.
	:Shoo any deletionists away for me will you. ;)
	:Have fun without me. ;)
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	Duly watched - I have the Braby book too so can have a tweak. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:34, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 30, 2024) ==
	You'll like this. ]s allow you to put a posting guideline or whatever above the edit box. So, I thought you might like a trick; the notice does not have to be constant, you can push one of a bunch at people. You might like to have a queue of a dozen DYK hooks you've done (or all 137) and every time someone drops by to leave you a note, they get one. It doesn't have to be just your talk page; you could put it on the DYK talk page or wherever else come to mind. You can get a taste on my talk page; hit preview a bunch of times and you'll get different quotes. Cheers, ] 12:40, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
	:Interesting...just in the middle of something...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 12:49, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:: I rather thought you'd be quite keen on this. It doesn't have to be in edit notices; mebbe a rolling DYK message box on your userpage. Cheers, ] 10:45, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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	Hi, if you have time, I'd appreciate any feedback on a slightly crazy idea I had at ]. It's related to the Arbitration Committee. Thanks! <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">]</font> (<font color="#156917">]</font>)(<font color="#156917">]</font>) 18:33, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
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	{{article|Treatment for depression}}
	I was involved in this article about a year ago. Can I get your opinion on it? I think it is a violation of ] since it spends such an inordinate amount of space on treatments that are not evidenced-based. What do you think?
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	] (]) 22:59, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:Yeah, we changed the title and ended up using it as a dumping ground while we got ] to FAC-hood. OM helped out quite a bit. I was planning to tee them up so they matched each other then fine tune some other stuff. I could do with some chocking up of orthodox material mainly. MDD got pretty throughly vettted so the first thing would be to make sure they matche each other...then go from there. But after the ] I had with MDD, I needed a break...... :) Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
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	With all due respect, I do believe that archiving this after a mere three-hour timeframe (in the dead of night for most of the U.S., and during a time when many of those in the U.K. are still working on that ever-important first cup of tea) was slightly hasty. I hope you don't take my un-archiving personally - and if I transgressed some wiki-norm or another, I'm sure I'll find out soon enough, haha. The likelihood of anything productive transpiring may even be less than 50%, but I don't think it's quite at zero - no harm in letting it go on for a "full" 24 hours. ] (]) 09:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
	:Alright.....Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:17, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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	Hello. Another bird, another scientific name. I've begun working ] up to GA if there is enough info out there. Could you see what ''Francolinus ochropectus'' means? Thanks. ] (]) 17:15, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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	:Will check when I get home. Cool bird and good to do some from that neck of the woods...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:13, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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	::Thank you. ] (]) 17:15, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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			Do you think the article is Satisfactory? I could expand a little more, but I'd also like for your to participate since you were the original nominator. ] (]) 22:36, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
	:) Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 21:42, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
			:I'll take a look. It's been a long time so will undoubtedly need something ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
			::Here are some more articles you could use and ] (]) 15:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
			::How are things going? Do you still plan on working on this. I would do it by myself but am a bit hesitant since I didn't nominate it and I may have already made it into the ]. ] (]) 22:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 33, 2024) ==
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	:Please check your inbox, it's of the utmost importance. ] <sup>]</sup> 22:24, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:Got it Sam. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 22:33, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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	If so, there are two edits in need of oversight (WPian's phone number plus threats being spammed by harasser/potential stalker). Shoot me an email if you're online now. ]] 22:30, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:Got 'em both. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 22:31, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
	::Your awesome speediness is appreciated! ]] 22:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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	I just want to say I really . I know it's not easy to stand away from someone you agree with. But I think it takes a certain amount of courage to rise above partisanship, and disagree with someone's methods even when you support their beliefs. It's something I'll remember in the future. Good luck at ArbCom. ] (]) 22:30, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:''(sigh)''....Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 22:32, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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	:: 'sighs' are ambiguous; I assumed the one in the above diff referred to ]. Cheers, ] 10:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
	::: Har har...well I meant the forced loud and sad expiration of breath as I sense a big messy arbitration case a-coming, and I will throw it open as to whether folks think I am able to be impartial or not. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:58, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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	:::: I've been there; they're all big and messy. Recall the 'broom' I gave Seraphim — 'Brooms go with mops; for the cut and dry stuff.' Well mops are for the messy jobs and AC is the land of the messes the community can't handle. The E&C issue has simmered along at a low boil just fine without me and the issue is not going away. See ] and have a chat with a colleague. Some suggestions;
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	::::* The bar for inclusion has to be raised; fanwank is not allowed
	::::* Hopeless articles have to go; the trash, Wikia; ''outta-here'' — 20%, or more
	::::* Those writing about pop-fiction have to write better; if they do this, their articles will be appropriate for inclusion
	::::* The arch-inclusionists have to stop fighting to keep the lamest of the lame in an effort to keep the Evil Deletionists<sup>®</sup> from getting through those to the merely lame articles
	::::* Anyone being truly disruptive gets seriouz bonk-bonk on the head; Pixel is in pure battleground mode
	::::* Have a read of ] and especially ] and ]; the core reason to limit the exponentially inflationary growth of the number of articles is a ] concern — the ratio of articles to editors-with-clue is getting entirely out-of-hand. The legions of people 'A Nobody' refers to will overwhelm everything if given half a chance. They are an army of couch potatoes programmed by the marketing efforts of a vast commercial pop-culture ], a generation raised on a diet of ] which is intended to promote an incurious nature in a consumer underclass.
	::::* If the volume of content gets beyond the control of the clueful, the whole project could collapse. Once it begins, radical late-game solutions will fail. This will be more a failure in the publicity sphere than within the wiki community; once the press is mocking the project, no amount of remediation will be sufficient to reverse course. Someone will fork the good content and they'll be off and running as the successor to these projects and they'll be the net's new darling.
	:::: As to your being impartial in E&C3, I believe you're capable of it, but the core rationale of recusal is the avoidance of even an appearance of partiality.
	:::: ] 12:42, 1 January 2009 (UTC) fyi, this was off-the-cuff, not a drafted piece.
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	How eloquent of you...I agree with the first clause in part 3 very strongly, and have tried to nudge folks in this direction, which is why I suggested the 3 month ceasefire with Gavin. ANyway, we will see what happens. There isn't an exponential growth in articles and the only reason alot of pop culture ones look not so good now is that the quality and depth of Good and Featured Articles has improved astronomically in hte past 3 years. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:18, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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			You protected this article 5 years ago. I thought it could be unprotected as vandals would have long gone? ] (]) 09:49, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
			:Let's give unprotection a whirl. ] (] '''·''' ]) 22:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
			::Thanks ] (]) 22:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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			] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 20:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
			== WikiCup 2024 August newsletter ==
	] <sup>]</sup> 14:03, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
			The fourth round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 29 August. Each of the 8 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 472 points, and the following contestants scored more than 700 points:
	== Happy New Year ==
	Hope 2009 is a great year for you!--] 15:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Generalissima}} with 1,150 points, mostly from 3 ]s, 2 ], 7 ], and 13 ] nominations;
	:Ditto :) Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:21, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|Arconning}} with 791 points, mostly from 2 featured lists, 8 good articles, 4 did you know nominations, and plenty of reviews;
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|AirshipJungleman29}} with 718 points, mostly from a high-multiplier featured article on ] and 2 good articles; and
			* {{Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Participant15|BennyOnTheLoose}} with 714 points, mostly from 1 featured article on ], 2 featured lists, and 3 good articles.
			Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated. Contestants put in extraordinary amounts of effort during this round, and their scores can be seen ]. So far this year, competitors have gotten 36 featured articles, 55 featured lists, 15 good articles, 93 ] credits, and at least 333 ] credits. They have conducted 357 featured content reviews, as well as 553 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 30 articles to ] and ].
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			Any content promoted after 29 August but before the start of Round 5 can be claimed during Round 5, which starts on 1 September at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. If two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on ]. Remember to claim your points within 14 days of earning them, and importantly, before the deadline on 31 October.
	Dear Cas, sorry for the delay, but many thanks for nominating my RfA. I was amazed at the support I got and although I will not be rushing to use new tabs, I'm sure that they will help a great deal in all I want to do for this noble project. Thanks once more and Happy New Year. Graham. ] ] 17:04, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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			Hi. An article you protected over a decade ago seemed to have its protection settings removed recently. Do you mind removing protection settings from its redirect as well?] (]) 18:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
			:Sure, why not. Done. ] (] '''·''' ]) 19:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
	Wishing you a happy new year, and very best wishes for 2009. Whether we were friends or not in the past year, I hope 2009 will be better for us both.
			== This week's ] (week 36, 2024) ==
	Kind regards,
	''']''' ] 21:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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	:Ditto. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 04:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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	Thanks for that video Casliber, all the best in 2009, hope AC doesn't drive you insane. ''']''' ('']'') 03:35, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
	:Nah, no sweat. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 04:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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	==Notice of request for deletion of editor Casliber :)==
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	] Casliber, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your ] are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at ] and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the nomination (unless you wish ]); such removal will not end the deletion discussion (''actually it will''). Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :) —''']''' (] · ] · ]) 16:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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	:Oh goshers!!!! It was ''you'' !!!! Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
	::<nowiki>:O</nowiki> On the contrary. I have nothing to follow that statement, just always wanted to say it. Just to clarify, there are no hard feelings at all, I have upmost respect for you and you were the first person who came to mind (I don't even know why!). All the best —''']''' (] · ] · ]) 21:35, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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	:Yep, this is a fine way - ask away :) Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 21:59, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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	DYK… that this city of a million people has no article on en:wp? Cheers, ] 05:43, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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	:Aha, excellent find. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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	:: It is, of course, south of ] which has another 1.5 million people. See;
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			== This week's ] (week 39, 2024) ==
	==Request help with review==
	Hi Casliber. I know this isn't exactly your area of expertise, but I was wondering if you could have a look at ]. The page has been up for A-class review for a month or two, and has not received any comments. Any opinions, however minor, would really be appreciated. Hope to see you there! &raquo; ] (] | ]) 16:58, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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	I have restarted the dykadminbot so it no longer needs a human to manually update. However I need someone familiar with the process to verify the bot's contributions and tell me that they are correct. Further details are at ].
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	:<small>''P.S. This post is being cross posted to the 4 "active" users listed on ].'' It is fairly critical that one of these four double check the bot before 01:00 UTC.</small> —— ''']]'''</font> 19:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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	] was inducted into<br><br><font color="navy" face="comic sans ms"><big><center>''']'''</big></font></center><br>This portrait of ] was dedicated in his honor.<br><font color="navy" size="2">David</font> '''].]]The inscription is the description. <font color="navy" size="2">David</font> ''']''' 00:09, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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	You may want to take a look . I don't see any problem and have commented. This is related to a comment now located . -- ] (]) 02:33, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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			Hi there! The trial of the <strong>RfA discussion-only period</strong> passed at ] has concluded, and after open discussion, the RfC is now considering whether to retain, modify, or discontinue it. You are invited to participate at ''']'''. Cheers, and happy editing! ] (]) 09:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
	Hello. Could you move ] to Reunion Cuckoo-shrike so that it is properly capitalized? Or do you think that Reunion Cuckooshrike would be better per BirdLife and the IUCN? Thanks. ] (]) 05:26, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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			== Vandalism of Gold standard articles by a person who's disruptive edits you've dealt with previously. ==
	:Done, right the first time. :) Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:35, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
			Dear administrator. Can you please take a look into the edit history of these Karnataka dynasty pages
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	s it possible for an admin to monitor which all accounts log-on to wikipedia from the same IP address --] (]) 18:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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			They have been continously getting vandalised by a Maratha caste IP looking to promote his caste. Please take a look at his edit history https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/2409:408C:ADB5:3805:E56B:A989:87F5:F563
	== A book you might enjoy ==
			I think similar edits were made by the same person in the ] dynasty page (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Rashtrakutas&action=history) which made you protect the page for a period of 3 months about 4 days back. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Rashtrakutas&diff=prev&oldid=1247580284)
	It's all about flowers ... well, err, kind of.
			Kindly do the same for the other dynasty pages he is targetting as well. He is using old British period sources which according to WP:RAJ is unreliable (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_172#Are_British_Raj_ethnographers_unreliable.3F.)
	* Patricia Fara, ''Sex, Botany and Empire: The Story of Carl Linnaeus and Joseph Banks'', (Sydney: ], 2003).
			The same account seems to be adding those dynasties to promote his caste here as well ]. Please look into it (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_Maratha_dynasties_and_states&action=history).
	She's a senior tutor in philosophy at Cambridge, written several very entertaining and informative books related to the history of science, probably including her doctorate.
	But I expect you know of her and this book already. I would have thought it a must read for the '''Banks'''-ia Study Group leader. ;) ] (]) 11:57, 7 January 2009 (UTC)		Thank you. ] (]) 10:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 40, 2024) ==
	:Hmm, interesting. No I haven't heard of her. I will chase this up :) Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 12:14, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
	::Ah! Glad I mentioned it then. I'm very confident you'll find Patricia's writing as entertaining as it is informative. Cheers. ] (]) 03:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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	, Cas. You mean well, but please ]. Regards, ] | ] 12:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC).
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	:I thought he may have missed it accidentally, but I was wrong, he hadn't, and made his feelings plain, so I will take it as an unequivocal 'leave it be' and do just that. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 12:34, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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			== Any chance of a DYK prep to queue promotion (or two)? ==
	Casliber, I wonder if you would consider eliminating the "Cheers" on your votes on arbitration decisions; to me it seems to trivialize the act of voting, and by extension to somewhat demean the ArbCom itself. I'm quite sure you don't mean it that way, but that's how it comes across to one user, anyway. ] (]) 02:45, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
	:You are right. I will revert those I can find, and you are more than welcome to revert any others you feel are inappropriate. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:41, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
			Casliber, it looks like things are busy where you are, but in case you have any time, might you be able to promote any DYK preps to queues? The queues are all empty, and six preps are full; it would help if we could get some movement here. Many thanks even if now's a bad time; you've done so many promotions over the years. ] (]) 02:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
	Obviously you have a problem with anyone dis-agreeing with your opinion, as even the smallest changes are reverted back with lightening speed 'its quite something wish my computer was that fast'. You need proper citations (and this article needs lots of them) any first year student knows that, other wise it is just opinion, so yes it does need going through. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:12, 8 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			:Taking a look ] (] '''·''' ]) 04:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
			::Thank you so much! ] (]) 19:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
			:::Not a problem. Been busy (and busy still). Will try to keep an eye on it. ] (] '''·''' ]) 01:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
			== Mentor for GA/FAC ==
	::Absolutely, but wholesale removal of text is not how it is done. So bring in some better citations. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:30, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
			Hi Casliber, I am wondering if you would have some time (not urgently) to be a mentor/provide some specific advice regarding the ] article I've helped significantly revise over the past couple of years. It is currently rated as B-class, but I believe it to be much improved since that assessment. I have requested an independent assessment of it on ] as I think it may be of A-class now. Additionally I am considering either a ] or ] listing, but would appreciate advice from a more experienced editor. Thanks for your time. ] (]) 02:04, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
	== ] ==
			:Taking a look ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:11, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
			== October music ==
	FYI, I at ]. I did not include it lightly. Please let me know if you have concerns. ] (]) 04:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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			You may remember ], thank you for promoting her to the queue, - my ] as ]. ] was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with ] mentioned in story and music. -- ] (]) 21:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
			I made Leif Segerstam my ] story today. -] (]) 08:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
	:That's fine. It is a valid point and a somewhat of an interesting one in how someone defines ''significant'' in sourcing. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:25, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
			Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world ]. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted ] in 2016. --] (]) 16:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
	:: Thanks for your understanding. ] (]) 05:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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	== Addition of DSM-IV Code to Medical Template ==
			Hello Cas Liber, it seems my DYK credit for ] has not been processed despite it being part of a double hook with ]? I had added it to my nomination within seven days of it being created and bolded it.--'']]'' 00:25, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
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			Hi Casliber, I am a new editor and recently got ] promoted to GA status. I'd like to go for Featured Article status, and am wondering if you could be a mentor and provide some advice. Would greatly appreciate any help! ] (]) <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added 00:03, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			:Ah ok. Bit busy but will do so in a few days ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:34, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
			== This week's ] (week 41, 2024) ==
	It would be really great if we could add the DSM-IV Code to the ] Template. It would be extremely useful in the psychiatric disorder articles.
	Thanks.
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	Kind Regards, --] <sup>(] - ])</sup> 05:09, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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	:Good idea, I have here to see what folks think. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 14:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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			== This week's ] (week 42, 2024) ==
	Since you're serving as a mentor to Jack Merridew, I have to point out that Jack going about insulting entire wikiprojects by calling them "Fanwank", and then accusing me of trolling by taking objection to the insult doesn't bode well for his rehabilitation. Nothing about his behavior that led to his being banned previously has changed if he think's that's appropriate. See ].] (]) 07:12, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
	:Oh dear....Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:08, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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	Hey mate, any chance you could take a quick gander at the images on ] and just check if they are all ok in terms of fair use blah-dee-blah. If not I'd appreciate any pointers you can give. Cheers
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	:<font color="Blue">]</font><font color="Green">]</font> <sup>(]•])</sup> 16:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
	*P.S. There's a {{t1|kitten}} in for you if you do this :p <nowiki></bribe></nowiki>
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	:Oh noes, a kitteh! They look good. the keys are that they are only used for ''one'' illustration each. (already baggsed by the article). It might be good to make a note of that in the description somewhere. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
	::Cheers mate, I've added a wee sentence stating what you said in each image rational. Have a kitten for your troubles!
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	:<font color="Blue">]</font><font color="Green">]</font> <sup>(]•])</sup> 10:01, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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	aaaaargh! IT MOVES!!Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 10:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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	== WP:AUS and the Australian cricket team ==
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	:::I see a correlation between the Australian cricket team and the slowing up of ]
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	:::*All have slowed down on the FAs dramatically in recent times and they stopped writing FAs in the same chronological order as the cricketers have retired. Warne-McGrath-Gilchrist and Mattinbgn-Casliber-Giggy as far as Aussie FAs. And, we've started struggling without them. Giggy also has a habit of walking from the crease as well. ''']''' ('']'') 04:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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	==Huia - suggestions==
	Re this:
	:"In section "Relationship with humans", can the phrases, "In some legends," and "In other traditions," mention the legends and traditions? Not strictly necessary, I am suggesting this because the above lines are consider Weasel words.".
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	This will be hard to fix since I don't have the book Kotare used - and I wouldn't want to either, probably, since a pet hate of mine is anything which lumps traditions from different regions together without giving the sources. I would suggest getting rid of all of this:
	:In Māori culture, only people of high rank wore Huia feathers. In some legends, the Huia was one of the birds attained from the heavens by Tāwhaki so that his wife could decorate her hair with its feathers; this celestial origin meant that the feathers of the Huia were treated with the greatest respect.
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	:In other traditions, the Huia was the leader of the hākuturi, the spirit guardians of the forest, which included Whiteheads and Riflemen. A single Huia feather was worn as a talisman against misfortune. If a man dreamed of a Huia or its feathers, it meant his wife would conceive a daughter; if he dreamed of Kōtuku feathers it implied the conception of a son.
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	We could use as a partial source ''Traditional Maori Stories by Margaret Orbell, Reed 1992, pp82-83'', and rewrite as follows:
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	::In Māori culture, the "white heron and the huia were not normally eaten but were rare birds treasured for their precious plumes, worn by people of high rank".. <START FOOTNOTE: Orbell mentions some of the sacred associations of the Huia, saying that if a man dreamed of a Huia or its feathers, it meant his wife would conceive a daughter.<END FOOTNOTE>
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	:Weird...did you actually mean ]? Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 03:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
	::Yea, it does seem weird of me. And yes. I'm sure the FAC people will get a kick out of it, but it has potential. Excuse my demented signature above, accidentally clicked off raw signature. ]<font face="Gill Sans MT">]&nbsp;→(]→]&nbsp;→])</font> 02:09, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
	::: hmmm, got potential. Will need some sources from dead trees, need to go to the library some time, and then...Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 02:17, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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	:Ok. thanks for the heads up. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 22:59, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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	Hi Casliber. Argh this is incredibly frustrating for me, I did so much work on this article - especially the "place in maori culture" section and I'd love to be able to do more but these days I'm so busy that I honestly just don't have the time to contribute a lot - hence why i'm replying a few days late, having not logged in for a while. I will have a glance at some of the points you made tonight but otherwise will have to put it to one side for a bit. I'm taking some leave from the 24th to the 3rd of February and I can hopefully then FINALLY find the time to rip into this article and make some improvements.. no promises but if everything goes according to plan I will be able to do it. i have some questions though...
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	1.You are a prolific contributor and very active member of the wikipedia community, yet I assume you're pretty busy person too, what with the research that you do ( or so I gather from your profile page). i only found I could really comfortably contribute to wikipedia during months long university holidays - but i no longer have the luxury of having those - Any tips on how to fit in wikipedia editing time?
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	2. The edits I like to make most are the ones which I did on "Huia" - adding lots of new, well referenced material to expand an article substantially. However, I'm not quite sure how to go about the research bit.. It seems like a lot of editors have got some kind of system going..Here is how I did it back in '07; I simply went to the uni library and wellington central library and and got out all the books about the Huia I could find - in additon to magazine articles and books about it which i own. Next I read through all the information i had gathered and underlined the relavant stuff with pencil - then I categorised it according to what the info. was about - the categories I had were ( to give you an idea)
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	I numbered the paragraphs according to what type of info. they covered. Then I went through and collated all the info. for each number/category of information and composed my writing straight onto wikipedia.
			Hi. Could you please provide me a copy of the deleted article ] or ]? Many additional sources are available and I'd like to see whether I might be able to flesh it out. Thanks much. ] (]) 19:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
	I didn't really know how to go about doing the research and may have sort of been "reinventing the wheel" a bit (so to speak). how do seasoned editors like yourself do it? and do you track down more hard to reach info. from scientific journal articles by ordering them in somehow? and finally, is there somewhere on wikipedia with hints as to how to do original research to write an article?
			:Okay I have userfied it and placed it at ]. Just keep an eye on notability requirements before moving it to article space. ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:11, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
			::I think it should have been moved to ]. If there was a problem with that, it should have been moved to ]. It is not a talk page. ] (]) 21:18, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
			::Thank you for providing it. Yes, I'll see whether I can solve the notability problem. ] (]) 17:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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	] is currently just an essay but, iirc, you would like to see it promoted. May I draw your attention to a recent spat which might be summarised with this . My position is that ] is a tendentious editor - an impression I formed while working on ] which I came across at AFD - it got so bad that I eventually walked away from the article. That topic may be of interest to you too but let's not digress. My point is that the putative guideline about tendentious editing is currently open to tendentious editing itself and I see similar activity on other policy pages that I watch. This is a paradoxical process which really requires more input from disinterested and high-minded folk. My impression is that our sovereign lord, Mr Wales, did little more than invent 3RR and IAR and has left policy otherwise open to all. Arbcom acts in his place so, now that you sit on it, perhaps you can improve the policy-making process. Rather than just fighting fires, I suggest that you appoint a task force or sub-committee to work upon pages such as ] and bring them up to the policy equivalent of FA status. When this is done, the pages could then be locked to provide a stable set of guidelines which might provide some much-needed stability and consistency. ] (]) 23:31, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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	:"''My point is that the putative guideline about tendentious editing is currently open to tendentious editing itself''" - ''(chuckle)'' I know. I will look later, this arbcom business has me buried by emails currently. There are some initiatives WRT supervised editing floating about (see Fringe Science arb case) but we all know about those grey areas. Thanks for keeping this on my radar, though I might not have a decent look/think for a while. ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:56, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
			! <div style="margin:0; background-color:#E2E7FF; border:1px solid blue; text-align:center; color:#082840; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.4em; padding-bottom: 0.4em; padding-right: 0.4em; font-weight:normal">{{AFI/Picture box|week=2025/2}} Hello, Casliber. The ] of the week is:
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	:: Lots of policy page can serve as honeypots for the editors afoul of them. I'm rather amused by the notion of
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I recently stumbled across an issue of Nova Hedwigia Beheift titled "the genera of fungi" (or was it agaricaceae?). It's filled to the brink with mind-numbing nomenclatural discussions of all the genera ever described (I think, anyway). Would it be any use if I looked up the specific ref or any specific genera? Circeus 00:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC) That would be friggin' trés bién. The first one that would be absolutely great to get a clarification on is Agaricus which was called Psalliota in many texts fro many years and I've been mystified as to why. Other articles I intend cleaning up are Amanita muscaria, which is the one I intended taking to FA first but it just didn't come together well, Gyromitra esculenta as a future FA, Agaricus bisporus as a future FA, and cleaning up the destroying angels – Amanita virosa, Amanita bisporiga and Amanita verna. Boletus edulis would be a good one to check too. let me know if anything interesting pops up. I'll see ifd I can think of any other taxonomic quagmires later today. Work just got real busy :( cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 02:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Generally, that's pretty arcane and only relevant to genus articles, or species that were tightly involving in defining them (for example, there seems to be an odd debate over the multiple type species for Amanita). I'll look up Agaricus, Amanita (since A. muscaria's the current type) and Psalliota. I'll also dig up the ref so you can look it up yourself, with any chance. Circeus 04:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Cool, keen to see what pops up. Cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 05:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC) I only quickly thumbed through it and noted the full ref (Donk, M.A. (1962). "The generic names proposed for Agaricaceae". Beiheifte zur Nova Hedwigia. 5: 1–320. ISSN 0078-2238.) because I forgot about it until the last minute. Psalliota looks like a classic synonym case. It shares the same type with Agaricus, and might be older. Circeus 01:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC) Weird! I thought Linnaeus was calling all sorts of things Agaricus so I wonder how it could predate that really....anyway I am curious.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC) Okay, First thing I have to say is... Damn, 18th–19th century taxonomy and nomenclature of fungi is a right mess. Whose bright idea was it to give fungi 3 starting dates in the ICBN??? LOTS of "per" in citation here. See On Agaricus Etym.: Possibly "from Agarica of Sarmatica, a district of Russia" (!). Note also Greek ἀγαρικόν "a sort of tree fungus" (There's been an Agaricon Adans. genus, treated by Donk in Persoonia 1:180) Donk says Linnaeus' name is devalidated (so that the proper author citation apparently is "L. per Fr., 1821") because Agaricus was not linked to Tournefort's name (Linnaeus places both Agaricus Dill. and Amanita Dill. in synonymy), but truely a replacement for Amanita Dill., which would require that A. quercinus, not A. campestris be the type. This question compounded by the fact that Fries himself used Agaricus roughly in Linnaeus' sense (which leads to issues with Amanita), and that A. campestris was eventually excluded from Agaricus by Karsten and was apparently in Lepiota at the time Donk wrote this, commenting that a type conservation might become necessary. All proposals to conserve Agaricus against Psalliota or vice versa have so far been considered superfluous. References Letter is script and looks like a Russian и. On Lepiota Etym. Probably greek λεπις, "scale" Basionym is Agaricus sect. Lepiota Pers. 1797, devalidated by later starting date, so the citation is (Pers.) per S.F.Gray. It was only described, without species, and covered an earlier mentioned, but unnamed group of ringed, non-volvate species, regardless of spore color. Fries restricted the genus to white-spored species, and made into a tribe, which was, like Amanita repeatedly raised to genus rank. The type is unclear. L. procera is considered the type (by Earle, 1909). Agaricus columbrinus (L. clypeolarus) was also suggested (by Singer, 1946) to avoid the many combination involved otherwise in splitting Macrolepiota, which include L. procera. Since both species had been placed into different genera prior to their selection (in Leucocoprinus and Mastocephalus respectively), Donk observes that a conservation will probably be needed, expressing support for Singer's emendation. On Psalliota Etym.: ψάλιον, "ring" Psalliota was first published by Fries (1821) as trib. Psalliota. The type is Agaricus campestris (widely accepted, except by Earle, who proposed A. cretaceus). Kummer (not Quélet, who merely excluded Stropharia) was the first to elevate the tribe to a genus. Basically, Psalliota was the tribe containing the type of Agaricus, so when separated, it should have caused the rest of the genus to be renamed, not what happened. It seems to be currently not considered valid, or a junior homotypic synonym, anyway the explanation is that it was raised by (in retrospect) erroneously maintaining the tribe name. On Amanita Etym.: Possibly from Amanon,a mountain in Cilicia. A first incarnation from Tentamen dispositionis methodicae Fungorum 65. 1797 is cited as devalidated: "Introduced to cover three groups already previously distinguished by Persoon (in Tent. 18. 1797) under Agaricus L., but at that time not named. It is worth stressing that was not mentioned." With Agaricus L. in use, Amanita was a nomen nudum per modern standard, so Persoon gave it a new life unrelated to its previous incarnations, and that is finally published after a starting date by Hooker (the citation is Pers. per Hook., 1821). He reuses Withering's 1801 definition (A botanical arrangement of British plants, 4th ed.). "The name Amnita has been considered validly published on different occasions, depending on various considerations." Proposed types include (given as Amanita. Sometimes they were selected as Agarici): A. livida Pers. (By Earle, in 1909). Had been excluded in Vaginata or Amanitopsis and could not be chosen. A. muscaria Pers. (By Clemens & Shear, 1931) for the genus (1801) from Synopsis fungorum, was generally transferred to the one from Hooker's Flora of Scotland, which is currently considered the valid publication of Amanita (or was in the 50s). A. phalloides (by Singer, 1936) for the 1801 genus. A.bulbosa (by Singer & Smith, 1946) for Gray's republication. This is incorrect as Gray's A. bulbosa is a synonym of A. citrina. Some authors consider Gray to be the first valid republisher. A. caeserea (by Gilbert, 1940). Troublesome because not known personally to Persoon or Fries. Donk concludes the earliest valid type is A. muscaria, the species in Hooker, adding that he'd personally favor A. citrina. The name has been republished three times in 1821: in Hooker, Roques and Gray (in that order). Roques maintained Persoon's circumscription, including Amanitopsis and Volvaria. Gray excluded Amanitopsis and Volvariella into Vaginata. Right after, Fries reset the name by reducing the genus to a tribe of Agaricus, minus pink-spored Volvariella. This tribe became a subgenus, than genus via various authors, Quélet, altough not the first, often being attributed the change. Sometimes it was used in a Persoonian sense (whether that is a correct use according to ICBN is not clear to me). Homonyms of Amanita Pers. are Amanita adans. (1763, devalidated) and Amanita (Dill) Rafin. (1830) On Boletus Not including (Not in Agaricaceae, sorry). Phew! Circeus 18:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC) I hope you intend to clean that prose ASAP? It's definitely not article-worthy as is. Circeus 01:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC) I'm working on it. Got distracted this morning...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC) Pork LOL, I love your sense of humour. Maimonedes is a good reference. The reality is that Islam takes food restrictions from Judaism; and Christianity doesn't have any restriction (courtesy of three references in the New Testament). The reason why pork should be restricted (along with many other things) is not given explicitly in the Hebrew Bible, hence Bible commentators have been offering guesses since ancient times. My own favourite, however, is Mary Douglas, wife of Louis Leakey, daughter of a Lutheran pastor. Her theory is excellent, based on her cultural anthropological observations, with a decent feel for how Biblical text works. It's rather an abstract theory though. Anyway, I'll see if I can manage a literature review of dietry restrictions in the ANE, especially if there's anything explicit about pork. Don't think I'll find a reference for "why" the pork taboo is in place, though, if it's documented, I'd have read about that in commentaries. Perhaps a clay tablet with the answer has been destroyed in only the last few years during the "troubles" in Iraq. :( Alastair Haines (talk) 21:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC) This is the great thing about uncertainty. Lacking an answer, the reports of Maimonides, Mary Douglas and the other guy mentioned are fascinating.Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Scotish pork taboo is a remarkable article! Thanks for that, lol. Alastair Haines (talk) 21:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Spotted this. I'll look for a ref to the Maimonides comment. The normal teaching is that pork is no more or less offensive to Jews than any other forbidden meat (dog, horse etc) or forbidden part of kosher animal (blood, Gid Hanasheh etc). The pig (NB pig, not pork – an important distinction which is relevant for the Maimonides comment too, I note) is "singled out" because it alone of the animals that have one of the two "signs" (it has split hooves but doesn't chew the cud) lies down with its legs sticking out. Most quarapeds have their legs folded under them. There's a midrashic lesson to be learned there, apparently, that the pig is immodestly and falsely proclaiming its religious cleanliness, when it is not. Anyway, that said, I'll look into the M comment – he was quite ahead of his time in terms of medical knowledge (check his biog). And NB my OR/POV antennae buzzed when I read that little section. --Dweller (talk) 22:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Someone has tagged the Religious restrictions on the consumption of pork for OR, though the talk page seems to indicate it is for a different reason....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Hmm... makes me more dubious, but I'll check. btw... I'm not Alastair! --Dweller (talk) 23:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Have found good stuff, including online version of Maimonides text. I'll dump it here for you to use as you wish. I maintain that the food which is forbidden by the Law is unwholesome. There is nothing among the forbidden kinds of food whose injurious character is doubted, except pork (Lev. xi. 7), and fat (ibid. vii. 23). But also in these cases the doubt is not justified. For pork contains more moisture than necessary , and too much of superfluous matter. The principal reason why the Law forbids swine's flesh is to be found in the circumstance that its habits and its food are very dirty and loathsome. It has already been pointed out how emphatically the Law enjoins the removal of the sight of loathsome objects, even in the field and in the camp; how much more objectionable is such a sight in towns. But if it were allowed to eat swine's flesh, the streets and houses would be more dirty than any cesspool, as may be seen at present in the country of the Franks. So, Maimonides argues "pork contains more moisture than necessary , and too much of superfluous matter", whatever that means! More importantly, the "principal reason" is that if you keep pigs, you end up with a dirty and unhealthy environment. Important note: Maimonides was writing from Islamic Egypt at the time, which is why he mentions "as may be seen at present in the country of the Franks." (ie France) The comments about the pig's habit of lying with its legs outstretched come from Midrash Vayikra Rabba (ch 13) where it is mentioned as part of an elaborate metaphor, but not in connection with any reason for particularly abhorring the creature. Hope that helps. --Dweller (talk) 09:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC) References Maimonides, Guide for the perplexed, Book III ch.48. Can be viewed online at http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/gfp/gfp184.htm Bract pattern You know what I don't get? On page 245 of George (1981), and again on page 40 of Collins (2007), George gives a diagram showing the arrangement of unit inflorescences on a Banksia flower spike. Both diagrams clearly show a hexagonal layout; i.e. every common bract is surrounded by six equidistant common bracts, thus forming little hexagons. In support of this, George (1981) states "The unit inflorescences are so arranged on the axis that there are three pattern lines—vertical, and both dextral and sinistral spiral." I haven't dissected an inflorescence, but in some species the pattern persists right through flowering and can be seen on the infructescence. You won't get a better example than this B. menziesii cone. Look at that pattern. There's no way you could call it hexagonal. It is a rectangular (or rather diamond, since the lines are diagonal) grid. Depending on how you define a neighbourhood, you could argue that each common bract has 4 or 8 neighbours, but there's no way you could argue for 6. Similarly, you could argue for two pattern lines (dextral and sinistral spiral) or four (dextral, sinistral, vertical and horizontal), but there is no way you could argue for 3, because there is no reason to include vertical whilst excluding horizontal). On top of that there is a beautiful symmetry in the way each common bract is surrounded by its own floral bracts and those of its neighbours. But George's diagrams destroy that symmetry. I thought maybe B. menziesii was an exception to a general rule, but you can see the same diamond grid, though not as clearly, in File:Banksia serrata4.jpg, and I reckon (but am not certain) I can see it in my B. attenuata cone. And in File:Banksia prionotes mature cone.jpg too. What the heck is going on? (I'm not just being a pretentious wanker here. I thought the diagram was interesting and informative enough for me to whip up an SVG version for Misplaced Pages. But since copying George's diagram isn't really on, and it is much better to go straight from nature if possible, I was basing my version on this B. menziesii cone. But it isn't going to work if the diagram shows a rectangular grid and the text has to say it is hexagonal.) Hesperian 13:28, 29 August 2009 (UTC) Thanks for reminding me on this one – I think it was Alex (or Kevin??) who told me that every bract pattern was unique to a species and hence diagnostic, but as far as I know not much if anything has been published on this area. The similarity between archaeocarpa and attenuata was noted (the bract pattern remaining in the fossils). I seem to recall feeling bamboozled as well by the description when I read it some time ago. I will have to refresh myself with some bedtime reading....Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:50, 29 August 2009 (UTC) Update: I had a look at the pages in question in the banksia book(s), there is a little bit more in the 1981 monograph but not much. I meant to ring Alex George about this and should do so in the next few days...I guess the photos look sort of like hexagons stretched vertically :P Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:46, 2 September 2009 (UTC) Dipsacus fullonum Just passing through. I am not an expert with flora but I do take photos now and again. Does this image from my personal collection help or hinder your discussion? I see diamonds --Senra (talk) 12:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC) Haha yeah. Not a bad comparison at all. a diamond pattern it is there as well. You sorta let your eyes go a little out of focus and see two diagonal lines....Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC) Question I note that the last six images to be posted on your talk page were posted by me. I'm not sure whether to apologise.... What is going on in the lower image? Clearly this is an inflorescence in very early bud, but those furry white things are apparently not developing flower pairs. Are they some kind of protective bract or something? Hesperian 01:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC) You certainly see those thingies on the developing buds of alot of banksias. I'd be intrigued what the Nikulinsky book, which is essentially a series of plates of a developing menziesii inflorescence, says (not sure, I don't recall whether it had commentary...). Another thing to look up. Was about to look up the patterns just now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC) Now I have looked at the books and bract architecture, question is are they common bracts or are they something which falls off (don't think so but..). Something else to ask Alex. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:49, 2 September 2009 (UTC) Having found nothing in George, I've been reading Douglas's stuff on ontogeny of Proteaceae flowers, and found nothing there either. If you snap a spike axis in half, they are just that brown colour, and essentially made of closely packed fuzz. I wonder if there is initially no gap in the axis for the flower to grow, so the developing flower literally has to shove some of the axis out in front of it as it extends. This would explain everything except for the white tip. Hesperian 10:23, 2 September 2009 (UTC) I have today taken a long lunch and gone bushwalking with Gnangarra. While he took happy-snaps, I did some OR on this question. My diagnosis is: these are peduncles that have developed common bracts, but have not yet developed floral bracts or flowers. In very young spikes like the one pictured here, they are not yet very densely packed together, so they can be perceived as individual peduncles. Given time, they will continue to grow, and as they do so they will become more and more densely packed together, until eventually they are jammed together so tightly that their dense coverings of hairs form the fibrous brown material that comprises a typical flower spike, and the common bracts at their apex will form the bract pattern on the surface of the spike. At that point, they will no longer be distinguishable as individual peduncles, but will simply be part of the spike. When the flowers start to develop, they get squeezed together even more. At this point, sometimes, a peduncle may break off the axis and be squeezed right out of the spike as the flowers around it develop. Thus you may see one or two of these furry things sitting at random positions on the surface of a developed flower spike. As evidence for this hypothesis I offer the following observations: Wherever one of those "furry things" is found loose on the surface of a spike, you will also find a gap in the bract pattern beneath it, where the common bract is absent; "Furry things" may occasionally be found partly out of the spike, but partly in, in which cases the white tip is quite obviously the common bract. In such cases removal of the "furry thing" leaves behind a visible hole in the spike where a common bract ought to be. Hesperian 05:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC) Interesting – Gah! Forgot to ring Alex – evening is a crazy time with little availability for me, but will see what I can do. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC) Not OR any more. Look at the picture of "Banksia flower bud seen in profile" here: clear evidence of the common and floral bracts forming one of those little furry upside-down pyramids, with the flower arising from it. Hesperian 03:38, 19 September 2009 (UTC) On a tangential point, the first image would most likely pass FPC if it ever finds a home that is appropriate. Noodle snacks (talk) 06:55, 17 October 2010 (UTC) Hmmm, okay, hopefully Hesperian will see this thread. :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:31, 17 October 2010 (UTC) Gosh, would it really?! I was quite proud of it but a bit unsure whether it had enough depth of field. But if I'll take anyone's word that it would probably pass, I'll take Noodle snacks. :-) Hesperian 23:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC) Banksia menziesii with persistent florets While I was out a-walking in the bush one day last week, I spied a banksia with an unfamiliar jizz. Even on closer inspection I was bamboozled for half a minute until the pieces fell together and I realised I was looking at a B. menziesii with persistent florets. Not just a bit late to fall: there were old cones from previous seasons with the florets still bolted on. In fact, there wasn't a single bald cone on the whole tree. I've never seen anything like it. Have you? Hesperian 04:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC) Hmm..interesting. I have not ever noticed a menziesii like this, but not to say it can't happen. Might it be a menziesii/prionotes hybrid – how far is the tree from you? I'd compare the newgrowth/leaf dimensions/trunk all for comparison. Did it have any new flowers? Some of these old cones have an aura of prionotes about them...Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:11, 2 February 2010 (UTC) prionotes crossed my mind at first, but the bark is that of menziesii, and nothing like the distinctive prionotes bark. And the flower spikes lack the woolliness of old prionotes florets. It's quite near my place; about ten minutes drive. Even closer to where Alex lives (assuming he still lives at the address he has been publishing under lately): only five minutes drive from there I would guess. If it's prionotes (which it isn't), then we've extended the known range of that species 10km south. Likewise, a hybrid means there's a prionotes population nearby, so it amounts to the same thing. Hesperian 05:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC) Banksiamyces again I finally made it to the library and got a hold of the article you had asked about a couple of weeks ago. There's enough info there to make DYK-worthy stubs on the genus, and three of the species (macrocarpus, katerinae, toomanis), or, alternatively, maybe enough for a GA on the genus. What are the chances of images? Apparently these fungi make small but visible apothecia on the seed capsules. Berkeley and Broome first wrote about the fungus in 1887, so maybe there's a sketch from the protologue that's useable. Anyway, I'll start adding text in a day or two and maybe we can have the first Banksia/Fungi wikiproject collaboration? Sasata (talk) 14:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC) Berkeley & Broome (1887) is online at http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/13683 — see page 217. There is a picture at Plate 29 figure 18. Hesperian 02:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC) That's a nice image on plate 29 there. They call it Tympanis toomanis on page 224 decription of plate. How do we capture that image and replicate it on commons? Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Like this. Hesperian 03:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC) On page 222, they talk about finding it on a banksia cone near the Tooma River in southern NSW, which leaves me thinking it is a cone of Banksia marginata although they do not state this (OR alert ++++). Funny looking marginata cone but marginata is a hugely variable species....Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Check your email; I've sent you a copy of Beaton (1982), where they do state that the cone is B. marginata. (You guys should have asked me first; I could have saved Sasata a walk to the library.) Hesperian 03:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC) @Sasata – I'll leave it up to you whether a solid GA and one DYK for the whole shebang, or 4 species articles – you've got the material and I am happy either way. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Am working on the article behind-the-scenes now... that picture you uploaded is excellent, and thanks Hesp for finding the protologue. Too bad the scan resolution is so crappy; I can upload a screen capture/crop to Commons, but will first investigate to see if there's a copy of the original around here so I might rescan at higher resolution. Four DYKs and 1 GA doesn't sound unreasonable for the lot, but I'll see what I can come up with. Sasata (talk) 03:32, 19 February 2010 (UTC) The resolution is good. I guess you were looking at it at 25%. Try zooming in. Hesperian 03:40, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Yeah, it'll do the trick. I gave the article a good push towards GA. Hesp, do you have easy access to Beaton 1984, or maybe Fuhrer, B,; May, T. (1993). "Host specificity of disc-fungi in the genus Banksiamyces on Banksia." Victorian Naturalist (South Yarra) 110 (2):73–75? I think once those two are located and added, that'll be it from journals (but you may find stuff to add from your Banksia books?). I could start stubs for the species, but it would be a shame to have to leave out B. maccannii. Sasata (talk) 07:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC) I can probably get Vic Naturalist at UNSW Library next tuesday or friday (slim chance on weekend). Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC) When you get to Victorian Naturalist, you'll also want to grab Sommerville, K.; May, T. (2006). "Some taxonomic and ecological observations on Banksiamyces". The Victorian Naturalist. 123: 366–375.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) Hesperian 08:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Thanks for finding that, wonder why it didn't show up in my database search. Cas, if it's too mush hassle for you to get these, let me know and I can order them, would take 1–2 weeks to get here. I'll have easy access to Beaton (1984) on Monday. No access to Victorian Naturalist. Hesperian 08:38, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot again. I've just scanned it now. Cas: I'll forward shortly; if you have Sasata's email address, can you forward it on please? Otherwise, Sasata: send me an email so I know where to send this scan. Hesperian 04:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC) I don't see any email link on your user page... I can wait until Cas forward a copy. Thanks kindly Sasata (talk) 15:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC) I guess you've never noticed the "Email this user" link in the sidebar toolbox.... Hesperian 23:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC) ! Wouldya look at that... That's embarrassing! Now excuse me while I go give eyewitness testimony in a murder trial. Sasata (talk) 23:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC) Hang on a sec, will send. Also, will be near the library again for Vic Naturalist. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC) Hahaha. Fantastic. I just realised I never uplaoded a funny photo I took in WA a few years ago. I need to double check. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC) As OZtrylia has a notoriously under described rang of and field of mycology study – any signs of further fungi or algae work is to be encouraged at all points SatuSuro 01:51, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Taking pity on poor Cas, whose Banksia books are still packed up in boxes: From Collins, Collins and George (2008), page 47, first paragraph of a section entitled "Fungi and lichens": "Many kinds of fungi are associated with Banksias. There is even a genus of fungi named for their association with these plants—Banksiamyces. The first species of these was recognised in the 1880s and placed in the genus Tympanis, then in the 1950s transferred to the genus Encoelia. Further collections and research led to the description of the genus Banksiamyces by Beaton and Weste in 1982, with two further species. Six taxa are now recognised, so far known from 13 species of Banksia (Sommerville & May, 2006). Commonly known as banksia discs, they have all been found on eastern Australian Banksias and one is also known in Western Australia. They are discomycete fungi, growing on the fruit and appearing as small, shallow dark cups on the follicles (Fuhrer, 2005). When dry they fold inwards and look like narrow slits. Their effect is unkown but it seems unlikely that they are responsible for degradation of the seeds." At the bottom of the page there is a photo of Banksiamyces on B. lemanniana. They look like little light grey maggots on the follicles. Based on the photo and textual description, I would suggest that the B. violacea photo doesn't show this genus. Hesperian 11:17, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Hmmm, that's what I initially thought when I read the description and sketches in Beaton 1982, but after seeing B&B's 1872 sketches, I was pretty sure Cas's pic was a Banksiamyces. I guess I should reserve judgment until I get more info. Sasata (talk) 17:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC) From the abstract of Somerville and May 2006: "Apothecia of these crops are of different macroscopic appearance, with lighter apothecia being mostly immature, and darker apothecia producing spores." ... so who knows? Sasata (talk) 17:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Anything else to add to this article? Shall we put it up for GAN? Sasata (talk) 17:39, 18 May 2010 (UTC) Yeah put it up, there might be some bits and pieces. I'll take a look. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:32, 18 May 2010 (UTC) Any Banksia experts you're chums with that might be able to give a confirmation on your putative Banksiamyces photo? Sasata (talk) 05:45, 21 May 2010 (UTC) damn, I meant to contact Tom May about it (who has been helpful before). Will dig up his email and see what he says. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:09, 21 May 2010 (UTC) Abraham Halpern You may want to have a look there as well. Appears to have been improved by a Szasz fan. I've read diagonally this article, but even that doesn't seem to support the light in which the Halpern-Szasz issue is presented in Misplaced Pages. Tijfo098 (talk) 13:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC) Just go back from a weekend break with no innernet..now where was I.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC) Aboriginal Astronomy Hi Casliber – thanks for your note. Yes there's quite a bit more out there which Duane Hamacher and I are slowly trying to get written up. You can find some more stuff on www.emudreaming.com and you may find some papers you havent come across on http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rnorris/papers/papers.htm Have fun! RayNorris (talk) 03:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC) Great! I'll have a look and if I find anything specific to nag you on...I will :) cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:49, 8 October 2012 (UTC) Orange-bellied Parrot Neophema99 (talk) 07:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Hi. I would like to open for discussion the format of the entry for 'Orange-bellied Parrot'. As news occurs in the recovery program for this species, the limitations of the current format of the Misplaced Pages entry become more obvious. The heading, 'Conservation Status' should, I believe, be reserved for the actual conservation status in Australia, and in the three states, SA, Tasmania and Victoria. What follows after that, but still under that heading, at present, is a running commentary of events since about 2010. This is not acceptable. I propose another heading be inserted, 'Recovery Program' or similar. In it, a short history of the OBP recovery program could be given – since 1980 or so – and then, new events could be smoothly inserted as they happen. What do others think? The Misplaced Pages entry is an important first port of call for many people interested in this bird. We owe it to them, and to history, to provide a better entry. Neophema99 (talk) 07:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Agreed. Will take a look. sounds good – helps with seamless updating and no doubt there is a lot of info that could be added. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC) got any advice for writing a constellation FA? Thinking of diversifying and trying Corona B. Double sharp (talk) 16:17, 7 September 2014 (UTC) It's easier than stars as there is less hardcore physics involved, but trickier as you have to make the material not "listy", which it sort of is by very nature. Smaller constellations are easier as there is less material to list generally. Star guide books, alot of which are on google, are good for general overview, how to find things, what's next to what etc. but alot of their factual info (distance/luminosity) is outdated. I have even suspected this in newer reprints/editions where new material is coming out. SIMBAD is a godsend and makes finding other material easy. I was using it as a ref itself but probably better to use the refs it cites. Overall I find astronomy articles more challenging than biology ones – trickeir to make engaging. We can collaborate on CrB if you like as I did plan on taking it All the Way at some point and then having it as a double mainpage with CrA. Collaborating is good as it makes for less work in some ways – each of us can copyeidt the other etc. 20:43, 7 September 2014 (UTC) Just popping in during some of the rare free time I have at the moment to say that the hardest part of the constellation articles is figuring out exactly what objects to write about, since there is generally quite a bit of discretion in whether or not something should be in the article. I generally try to write about all stars brighter than magnitude 5.0, and the most-studied astronomical objects within the constellation, as well as a few other things such as extremes (e.g. R136a1) and unusual objects. One tip to find notable stars, I've found, is this SIMBAD query, which lists all Bayer, Flamsteed, and variable stars in each constellation by number of refs. Of course further research is necessary for other stars without said designations, but it's a good start. I would help, but I don't anticipate having much free time at all until at least December. StringTheory11 (t • c) 21:18, 7 September 2014 (UTC) StringTheory11 Wow! Great idea/find! That really helps. Agree with what you've said. I think it is good to get these in order as it also highlights what other articles are underdone or incorrect etc. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:51, 8 September 2014 (UTC) Yup the small size was part of the reason I chose CrB (it's not the only reason though :-P). I'm cool with a collaboration. ST11's suggestions, as always, make a lot of sense. Going to read through some constellation FAs to get an idea of what to write – not least CrA... Double sharp (talk) 02:38, 8 September 2014 (UTC) Double sharp, I have started buffing with this one. Just arting with the brighter stars – SIMBAD is best place to start and then chasing refs. Not sure how much you know about them (figuring distance from parallax etc...) so just ask away..or start on deep sky objects and I'll continue with stars (??) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:05, 12 November 2014 (UTC) Carcinoma in situ The carcinoma in situ page has been updated and it explains the different views that sometimes carcinoma in situ is seen as a cancer and sometimes it is not. You will probably remember earlier this year that you supported changing my use of the term "invasive cancer" to "cancer". The expression "invasive cancer" is used frequently in books particularly when talking about cancer of the cervix and in my opinion using the term "invasive cancer" can improve clarity. What do you think of the explanations in the carcinoma in situ article? Snowman (talk) 13:13, 4 November 2014 (UTC) As it reads right now, which ones are you thinking should have invasive added to them? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:35, 4 November 2014 (UTC) Whoops, I have phrased it badly above, but you seem to have understood me. I should have said that you did not support my use of "invasive cancer" and you preferred the use of "cancer" instead. Actually, to me, it is not as simple as just inserting the word "invasive". Back then, I saw a better phrase in a reference and I thought about using it, because I thought that it would be accurate, readable, and I hoped keep everyone happy; however, the situation become unnecessarily tense and I felt like I was walking on eggs (and you know what that means). I did not get around to developing the article any further nor mentioning the "magical" phrase. I will see if I can find the phrase again. I recall that the solution was to use a short phrase in the place of cancer or invasive cancer in the introduction. I am talking in riddles at the present time, because I want to make sure that I can find that phrase again, and that will mean thinking about the introduction again. Snowman (talk) 20:32, 4 November 2014 (UTC) Okay, let me know what you are thinking of once you get it clear. It is an intriguing question. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:56, 5 November 2014 (UTC) I would recommend the amendment belew, because the demarcation between non-cancer and cancer varies according to the literature, as we have seen, and this is made more difficult by a simplified language and vocabulary used to communicate the complex situation to patients. A definition of cancer that includes in-situ cancer is well established, but perhaps the world of the cytologist or histopathologist is a small world, where to say "invasive cancer" is not unusual. This is the current line in the introduction; "Cervical cytology tests can often detect precursors of cervical cancer and enable early successful treatment.". I think that it would be more accurate if it said something like; "The main aim of cervical cytology screening is to detect precursors of cancer and early cervical cancer to enable early successful treatment.". In this new line a full spectrum from viral changes to dysplasia to carcinoma-in-situ to early invasive cancer is included, so the controversy over where to put the non-cancer/cancer line disappears, and the meaning is clear no matter where the reader puts the line in his or her own mind-map. Snowman (talk) 13:05, 6 November 2014 (UTC) I reworded it like this to make it flow better yet be inclusive and cover all interpretations. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:24, 6 November 2014 (UTC) After some deep thought, I think that your edit is good enough. Snowman (talk) 14:09, 6 November 2014 (UTC) What do you think about making a joint nomination with me to take the cervix article to FA review sometime? I would not be planning to edit much of the "History" and "Other animals" sections, because I do not know much about those topics. I am not usually on the nominator's side of the fence, but I would be willing to step into that role here, partly to test the water. Snowman (talk) 13:29, 6 November 2014 (UTC) I think it is a good idea – the prerequisites for being a nominator are being reasonably familar with the article and having the ability to address issues raised at FAC. Do you see anything else that needs fixing before listing it at FAC? 02:15, 7 November 2014 (UTC) Oh good. I would like to have a long look at the article before FA nomination, and I expect that I will not feel happy with the article as a potential FA nomination for several weeks. There is some content and page organization in the article (as it is now) that I would like to reflect on. The peer review is also worth re-visiting to see what was not achieved there. I will probably attempt to start a few discussions on the article talk page where relevant. Do you have any time frame in mind or any particular schedule of your own to work around? Of course, I would ask you to constructively criticize my work whenever you think that anything can be improved, and I will try to focus on the issue and answer honestly and objectively trying not to be fractious nor stubborn, with a view to learning from my errors. It think that it will work better like that, than keeping quite or not speaking up when you do not agree with your co-nominator. I am saying that because I guessed that you have not felt easy about not supporting your co-nominator in FA reviews previously. Also, as before, please be alert to my writing style, which can sometimes need re-phrasing owing to clumsy grammar, although the content is often unambiguous (to me at least). Apart from that, it could be challenging writing for general readers and even more challenging writing for specialist readers that are unfamiliar with the small world of histopathology. Snowman (talk) 12:08, 7 November 2014 (UTC) Snowmanradio I have no time scale on this so it sorta takes as long as it takes. The refs need fixing for page numbers. The material is pretty good – only thing from PR left is double checking lymphatic drainage really I thought. Anyway. Posting things step by step on talk page is good. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:39, 7 November 2014 (UTC) I would have though that the "Function" heading would be about normal function. Surly, putting a barrier in front of the cx is not a normal function of the cervix. Also, oc pills are more about pharmacology and modified functioning of the cervix. Should the "Contraception" heading have its own level-2 heading? This has been discussed before, but it is worth starting another discussion on the talk page about this? Snowman (talk) 21:42, 7 November 2014 (UTC) I think that the human altering of function is fine there. I think it is fine as a level 3 heading underneath function Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:10, 7 November 2014 (UTC) When medicines affect function, it is called pharmacology. Snowman (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC) In the introduction; "... the cervix is usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in shape". Change to: ? 1. "... the cervix is cylindrically shaped usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in cross section". 2. "... the cervix is usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in in cross section" Snowman (talk) 17:30, 8 November 2014 (UTC) I think the first one or something like it – will take a look now. I wonder if the fact it is roughly cylindrical makes saying it's round in cross-section redundant. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:22, 8 November 2014 (UTC) Your amendment looks find to me. Snowman (talk) 11:32, 10 November 2014 (UTC) Should there be more consistency in using {{main| under more of the headings where there is an obvious main article else where? Snowman (talk) 11:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC) Snowmanradio Yes that sounds like a good idea. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC) OK, I expect that I will add some when I do some editing there. Snowman (talk) 20:47, 12 November 2014 (UTC) Re Vaginal portion of cervix. Have you got any ideas on what to do with this article on the portio (or ectocervix)? I do not know why WP Anatomy has so many articles on sub-parts. If relevant, I expect that a formal discussion would be needed to consider a merge. Snowman (talk) 20:47, 12 November 2014 (UTC) I think it should be merged. Will post something. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:42, 12 November 2014 (UTC) I plan to watch for a while and express an opinion, if needed. Snowman (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC) It is off to a good start over there. I think that there is nothing on the unreferenced portio page that can be copied over to the cervix page. We could start planing how to present the portio (and its various names) on the cervix page. Snowman (talk) 12:04, 13 November 2014 (UTC) In have found what to me looks like a 2003 copyrighted version of File:Cervix dilation sequence.svg, so I have started a deletion discussion on Commons. Commons administrators will now have a look at it. Initially, I left an message with the uploader on Commons to ask a technical question about the image, and I noticed that he is currently blocked for three months, so I did a search for other copies of the cervix dilation image. The image should show the babies head moving down the birth canal as the cervix dilates, but the head looks stuck. The image is on about a dozen or more Wikis, so they might all be removed by a bot in due course. I am not sure if the image needs removing from the Cervix page at this juncture or not, so I wonder what you think about removal from the en Wiki. Snowman (talk) 09:01, 13 November 2014 (UTC) Oh dear – I suspect it will have to be removed, though maybe hold for a moment and see if an explanation is forthcoming. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC) I recently found a photograph of a rare parrot with the wrong copyright and it was deleted from Commons one week after I started the deletion discussion. Snowman (talk) 14:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC) That sounds in keeping with deletion discussions elsehwere – around 1 week. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:17, 13 November 2014 (UTC) Update: Image was deleted this yesterday. Snowman (talk) 13:10, 21 November 2014 (UTC) The Cervical cancer article has had a lot of work on it since about June, and it is well worth looking at. I expect that we could shorten (or otherwise amend) the section on cervical cancer in the "cervix" article, because the "cervical cancer" article offers a good readable account. Snowman (talk) 12:40, 14 November 2014 (UTC) @Snowmanradio: I will take a look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC) Re HPV vaccines. Sometimes, I like to tidy up the linked pages. This article was moved from the singular to the pleural in March 2014. I am aware that there is more than one HPV vaccine, but I would expect this to be on the singular name, unless there something controversial about it that I have missed. Snowman (talk) 12:59, 14 November 2014 (UTC) @Snowmanradio: yes that is unusual and I think I prefer it at singular. I think it is worth discussing on the talk page. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC) The "Anatomical abnormalities" section looks like a mixture of acquired and congenital diseases. Could this be organized differently? I nearly did a reorganization, but a little re-organization does not change much, and I suspect that it would be easier to do a bit of a re-write. Also, it may be possible to expand the section with a little about the developmental abnormalities of the female genital tract seen in Cryptophthalmos syndrome, Johanson-Blizzard syndrome, Rokitansky Anomalod, and as less commonly seen in Roberts syndrome and Trisomy 18 syndrome. These diseases are not at the front of my mind, however these are in the index of my rather old second-hand book on human malformation. This is not a small change, so I welcome your opinion. Snowman (talk) 13:34, 14 November 2014 (UTC) @Snowmanradio: let me take a look. I don't recall it right now and I thought I was happy with it before but will look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC) I have become unexpectedly busy in real life, so I have not had much time for editing the Wiki. I hope that I will be able to contribute with more editing and work on the cervix article again after about two or three months . Snowman (talk) 10:03, 15 December 2014 (UTC) @Snowmanradio: no worries. I found that I have lost interest in it. My free time (of which I have little) has to be enjoyable and thus something I have real enthusiasm for. I found I did get a bit enthusiastic about this one but comes and goes. More interested in frigatebird and brachychiton rupestris now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:11, 15 December 2014 (UTC) Also orange-bellied parrot – very interesting story. I find writing about extinct species makes me sad (I leave them to FunkMonk) but rare ones are ok. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:12, 15 December 2014 (UTC) Apart from manual editing, I was hoping to write a few scripts for fun to do scanning and mass editing tasks on the Wiki this Autumn and Winter, but can not participate in a meaningful way at the present time. I plan to return when I can and I will look to see what you and User FunkMonk are doing then. Incidentally, have you any thoughts on why discussions about anatomy topics tend to be rather brittle? I might ask that question on the WP Anatomy talk page. Snowman (talk) 10:49, 15 December 2014 (UTC) What do you mean by 'brittle'? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:30, 15 December 2014 (UTC) I will ask open-ended questions instead. Do you have any observations about discussions on anatomy topics? Snowman (talk) 12:48, 15 December 2014 (UTC) Running a contest (talk page watchers welcome) Right folks...I can't decide which (long overdue) contest to run again. Putting this out there to see what folks reckon the 'pedia most needs or would be most fun (as without enthusiasm, it won't work). For folks unfamiliar, I try to get a wikigrant so several folks have a chance of winning a $25 (or more) Amazon voucher. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:37, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Core contest 99of9 (talk) 03:08, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 10:03, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Vanamonde (Talk) 20:39, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Stub contest Nessie (talk) 03:21, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Nosebagbear (talk) 09:16, 19 September 2019 (UTC) (just as a side-note I wouldn't take any voucher but would chuck it back into the pot) SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 11:58, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Guettarda (talk) 12:36, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Mcampany (talk) 17:36, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Take the lead! Golden gnome Nessie (talk) 03:21, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Loopy30 (talk) 11:47, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Guettarda (talk) 12:36, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Mcampany (talk) 17:37, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Note to self = Look at this Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:46, 6 November 2023 (UTC) Speedy deletion nomination of Roy Rosenfeld If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article. You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles. A tag has been placed on Roy Rosenfeld, requesting that it be deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. 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But busy so ping me if you haven't seen me there in 3 days or so. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 48, 2023) Institute for sports science in Japan Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Sports science Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Human-centered design • 3dfx Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 27 November 2023 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message Hello! Voting in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 11 December 2023. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Misplaced Pages arbitration process. 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It hasn't changed much since your edits in 2019, and Jim has recently looked at it, so I think we're in good shape. - Dank (push to talk) 18:05, 28 November 2023 (UTC) Nota This article is just crying out for your expertise. Enjoy! Drmies (talk) 02:48, 29 November 2023 (UTC) Oh dear...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC) I assume you're on your way to the library: good! Thanks! Drmies (talk) 13:38, 29 November 2023 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 49, 2023) A Mountfield church in East Sussex Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: East Sussex Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Sports science • Human-centered design Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 4 December 2023 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions FAC request Hi Cas, I hope that things are going well for you. While I am not keen to add to your list of unsolicited requests, Teloschistaceae is at FAC and could do with both another review and a look through by a knowledgeable editor. If you felt up to providing either of those, it would be much appreciated. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC) Ooo, interesting. I'll take a look Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:45, 5 December 2023 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 50, 2023) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: International trade law Please be bold and help improve it! 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Onel5969 15:26, 24 December 2023 (UTC) Onel5969 15:26, 24 December 2023 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 52, 2023) Cycle between autotrophs and heterotrophs: autotrophs use light, carbon dioxide, and water to form oxygen and organic compounds, mainly through the process of photosynthesis (green arrow). Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Carbon source (biology) Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Online encyclopedia • International trade law Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 25 December 2023 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions TFA December: story · music · places Thank you today for Masked booby, "about another sulid". Thank you also for another year of great contributions, and best wishes for 2024! For me, 2023 was a year of stories, and a click on "music" will give you the latest music and memories, promised. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 31 December 2023 (UTC) Happy New Year Happy New Year! Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free and may Janus light your way. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:25, 31 December 2023 (UTC) Heh thanks - and ditto! To everyone who has posted here in this festive season! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:50, 31 December 2023 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 1, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Fish slice Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Carbon source (biology) • Online encyclopedia Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions Welcome to the 2024 WikiCup! Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2024 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close on 31 January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), and Frostly (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 2, 2024) An antacid is a substance which neutralizes stomach acidity and is used to relieve heartburn, indigestion or an upset stomach. Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Antacid Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Fish slice • Carbon source (biology) Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 8 January 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions TFA Thank you today for Rock parrot, "about a cute little parrot that has not been much-studied...meaning it is a shorter article than many bird articles"! Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht Happy New Year 2024 -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:47, 11 January 2024 (UTC) I have a DYK, but my story would be different, about Figaro, - this Figaro. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:05, 12 January 2024 (UTC) On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC) story · music · places Today a friend's birthday, with related music and new vacation pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:50, 30 January 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 3, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Shovel Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Antacid • Fish slice Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 15 January 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 4, 2024) Visualization of one newton of force Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Newton (unit) Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Shovel • Antacid Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 22 January 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 5, 2024) Mahatma Gandhi with a young Indira Ghandi, during his fast in 1924 Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Hunger strike Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Newton (unit) • Shovel Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions Mentor request Hi, seeing that you're the only one of the mentors listed at WP:FAM naming astronomy among his interests, I would like to request mentoring from you before an FA nomination of Near-Earth object. For some background: I achieved GA for that article back in 2018, and have recently restored it to that level. I have attempted to bring an article to FA once (in a completely different field: railways), but aborted it for some reason - after lots of work based on helpful reviews, which taught me about some finer points of the English language and citation templates -, and it was 13 years ago, so I barely remember it & standards probably changed a lot since.Rontombontom (talk) 17:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC) Heh, I'll take a look. Cool article BTW. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC) If you have the time, could you please take another look at the article, and tell it it's now ready for FA nomination? Over the past two weeks, I have re-ordered the history, impacts & close approaches sections in a sequence that seems logical, trimmed some sections covered in greater detail in linked articles, and changed access/archive date format after all. Rontombontom (talk) 09:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 6, 2024) Various pâtés Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Pâté Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Hunger strike • Newton (unit) Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 5 February 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions WikiCup 2024 February newsletter The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017. Our current leader is newcomer Generalissima (submissions), who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers: AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), with one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, and two DYKs; Vami_IV (submissions), with one FA on Doom (2016 video game), one GA on Boundary Fire (2017), and 11 reviews; MaranoFan (submissions), with one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and two DYKs; Skyshifter (submissions), with one FA on OneShot and one DYK; Sammi Brie (submissions), with five GAs and five DYKs on television and radio stations; voorts (submissions) and Elli (submissions), both with one FA and one DYK each. As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:57, 11 February 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 7, 2024) Uncooked rigatoni Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Rigatoni Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Pâté • Hunger strike Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 12 February 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions CS1 error on Haborodelphis Hello, I'm Qwerfjkl (bot). I have automatically detected that this edit performed by you, on the page Haborodelphis, may have introduced referencing errors. They are as follows: A "missing title" error. References show this error when they do not have a title. Please edit the article to add the appropriate title parameter to the reference. (Fix | Ask for help) Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, Qwerfjkl (bot) (talk) 16:05, 16 February 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 8, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Foreign policy Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Rigatoni • Pâté Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 19 February 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions Beer I obviously owe you one. Thanks! 86.177.202.213 (talk) 21:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC) A beer on me! Heh one day... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 9, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Economy of South America Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Foreign policy • Rigatoni Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 26 February 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions WikiCup 2024 March newsletter The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2. The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points: Generalissima (submissions), who has 916 points mostly from one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher), 15 GAs, and 16 DYKs on a variety of topics including New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures, in addition to seven reviews Vami_IV (submissions), who has 790 points from two FAs on Felix M. Warburg House and Doom (2016 video game), two GAs, one DYK, and 11 reviews AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who has 580 points from one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, two DYKs, and five reviews Sammi Brie (submissions), who has 420 points mostly from nine GAs and seven DYKs on television and radio stations MaranoFan (submissions), who has 351 points from one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and three DYKs Skyshifter (submissions), who has 345 points from one FA on OneShot, one DYK and two reviews In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to Vami_IV (submissions), who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list. Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 10, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Community service Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Economy of South America • Foreign policy Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 4 March 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 11, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Religious music Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Community service • Economy of South America Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 11 March 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion: Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum. Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only. Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections. Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting. Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings. Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured. Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%. Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections. Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote. Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation. Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats. Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum. Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%. Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll. Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators. Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms. Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions. To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:52, 14 March 2024 (UTC) Reminder: GA backlog drive Hello! Just a reminder that, if you have time, you are welcome to join the GA backlog drive; it runs until the end of March. You are receiving this message because you signed up on the drive page but have not yet listed any reviews. We hope to see you there! Either way, happy editing! —Ganesha811 (talk) 18:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC) TCC 2024 Hi Cas, any interest in judging again for TCC this year? Myself and Femke are already interested. If you're too busy, I'm happy to find someone else. Best – Aza24 (talk) 05:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC) Happy to do so. Will head over to look at discussion. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC) Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/April 10, 2024 I just made a few small edits; feel free to revert or discuss. - Dank (push to talk) 16:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC) They're good/improvements. thx. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 13, 2024) File:Bucaram foto.pngAbdalá Bucaram Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Abdalá Bucaram Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Natural resource • Religious music Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 25 March 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions Signups open for The Core Contest 2024 The Core Contest—Misplaced Pages's most exciting contest—returns again this year from April 15 to May 31. The goal: to improve vital or other core articles, with a focus on those in the worst state of disrepair. Editing can be done individually, but in the past groups have also successfully competed. There is £300 of prize money divided among editors who provide the "best additive encyclopedic value". Signups are open now. Cheers from the judges, Femke, Casliber, Aza24. – Aza24 (talk) 02:20, 25 March 2024 (UTC) If you wish to start or stop receiving news about The Core Contest, please add or remove yourself from the delivery list. Happy Adminship Anniversary! Happy adminship anniversary! Hi Casliber! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:31, 28 March 2024 (UTC) Move protection of Gravity Falls (season 2) In 2015, you had protected the page to temporarily restrict edits to autoconfirmed editors and at the same time, indefinitely restrict moves to sysops only. Is it OK with you to have the move protection to be dropped? – robertsky (talk) 03:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC) Sure. Done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:52, 31 March 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 14, 2024) Gabin in The Little Rebels (1955) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Jean Gabin Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Abdalá Bucaram • Natural resource Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 1 April 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions TFA story · music · places Thank you today for the beautiful Telopea speciosissima, introduced (in 2010): "What's not to like? The state emblem and a darn fine flower at that....and it's been attracting birds and looking nice and red for over 60 million years....."! - I saw flowers on Madeira, and if you see me just naming one "red flower" and know better, please correct ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 10 April 2024 (UTC) plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC) WikiCup 2024 April newsletter We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round. Our current top scorers are as follows: Sammi Brie (submissions) with 642 points, mostly from 11 GAs about radio and television; voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two FAs (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three GAs; Generalissima (submissions) with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history; SounderBruce (submissions) with 497 points, mostly from a FA about the 2020 season of the soccer club Seattle Sounders FC and two GAs; Tamzin (submissions) with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink Capri-Sun and three GAs; Kusma (submissions) with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist Anna Blackburne and a GA. Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from gaming Misplaced Pages policies or processes to receive more points. If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please read Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Scoring. Further questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 16, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Antarctic Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Fire safety • Jean Gabin Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 17, 2024) Full rack of fifteen balls, ready for the break shot Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Pool (cue sports) Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Antarctic • Fire safety Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 22 April 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 18, 2024) A crewed submersible used for underwater exploration Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Exploration Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Pool (cue sports) • Antarctic Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions WikiCup 2024 May newsletter The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014. The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points: Sammi Brie (submissions) with 707 points, mostly from 45 good article nomination reviews and 12 good articless about radio and television; Generalissima (submissions) with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 did you know nominations about coinage and history; SounderBruce (submissions) with 552 points, mostly from a featured article about the 2020 Seattle Sounders FC season, three featured lists, and two good articles; BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player John Pulman, two featured lists, and one good article; voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three good articles. The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics. Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. Further questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC) Problematic digital media use and Major depressive disorder Hello there! I noticed that you removed the Digital media addictions subsection from the Major depressive disorder article that was excerpted the Digital media use and mental health article Depression subsection. Considering that you are a psychiatrist and helped get the Major depressive disorder article up to featured article status (per your user page), I was wondering if you'd be willing to trim that section on the Digital media use and mental health article in accordance with WP:MEDSAY. I've been trying to improve the Digital media use and mental health article (hopefully to featured status if possible), initially by just tracking down systematic reviews and meta-analyses that find associations between the various problematic digital media use categories and recognized mental health disorders by the DSM and ICD and other human factors issues associated with problematic digital media use. Unfortunately, I am not a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist so all I can do is look things up using Google Scholar and often do not have access to entire articles. Another editor has raised issues with the article's layout at its talk page, if you have the time to comment on it. Thanks! -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 01:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC) Okay, difficult topic and I have little time for the stuff I want to prioritise on as is. First thing, some context is good but too much is unnecessary - e.g. this paragraph is just too distant from the topic at hand. Am even unconvinced about whether the remaining paragraph is needed (leaning to not but need to read and think some more) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC) RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins Hi there! Phase I of the Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus: Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 19, 2024) Papyriform columns in the Luxor Temple Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Ancient Egyptian architecture Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Exploration • Pool (cue sports) Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 20, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Tax return Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Ancient Egyptian architecture • Exploration Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions Nomination of RX Telescopii for deletion A discussion is taking place as to whether the article RX Telescopii is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/RX Telescopii until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. InTheAstronomy32 (talk) 18:42, 18 May 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 21, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: News program Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Tax return • Ancient Egyptian architecture Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 20 May 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 22, 2024) Logo used from the 1990s until acquisition by Oracle Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Sun Management Center Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: News program • Tax return Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 27 May 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 23, 2024) Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: State of emergency Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Sun Management Center • News program Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 24, 2024) Turkish lira banknote Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: National economy (Turkey) Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: State of emergency • Sun Management Center Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions Mr. Two Hundred Thousand I MADE TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND EDITS AND EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT AROUND MUCH ANYMORE I STILL GOT THIS STUPID T-SHIRT!!! jp×g🗯️ 02:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC) (Hyuk hyuk hyuk) fair point. I keep trying to reignite the fire...but hard competing as I've returned to being a DnD DM...competing priorities...sigh Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 25, 2024) Field hockey stick and ball Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Sports equipment Please be bold and help improve it! 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The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3: Generalissima (submissions) with 1,059 points, mostly from 1 featured article on DeLancey W. Gill, 11 good articles, 18 did you know nominations, and dozens of reviews; Skyshifter (submissions) with 673 points, mostly from 2 featured articles on Worlds (Porter Robinson album) and I'm God, 5 good articles, and 2 did you know nominations; Sammi Brie (submissions) with 557 points, mostly from 1 featured article on KNXV-TV, 5 good articles, and 8 did you know nominations; and AryKun (submissions) with 415 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Great cuckoo-dove, with a high number of bonus points from that article. The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics. Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed during Round 4, which starts on 1 July at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. 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The article for improvement of the week is: Applied science Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Mechanism (engineering) • Breaking wave Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 29, 2024) Ambush of Polish partisans against Russian forces during the January Uprising, 1863 Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Ambush Please be bold and help improve it! 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Previous selections: Cape (geography) • Ambush Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions This week's article for improvement (week 32, 2024) Smiling woman Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Happiness Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: List of public art in Chicago • Cape (geography) Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 5 August 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions Humpback whale FA Do you think the article is Satisfactory? I could expand a little more, but I'd also like for your to participate since you were the original nominator. LittleJerry (talk) 22:36, 11 August 2024 (UTC) I'll take a look. It's been a long time so will undoubtedly need something Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC) Here are some more articles you could use and LittleJerry (talk) 15:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC) How are things going? Do you still plan on working on this. I would do it by myself but am a bit hesitant since I didn't nominate it and I may have already made it into the Ship of Theseus. LittleJerry (talk) 22:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC) This week's article for improvement (week 33, 2024) A fictional social network diagram Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Social experiment Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Happiness • List of public art in Chicago Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 12 August 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

This week's article for improvement (week 34, 2024)

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This week's article for improvement (week 35, 2024)

Director Sergio Leone (right) and actor Enzo Santaniello on the set of the film Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Once Upon a Time in the West Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Keygen • Social experiment Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

Marie Antoinette

You protected this article 5 years ago. I thought it could be unprotected as vandals would have long gone? LibStar (talk) 09:49, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Let's give unprotection a whirl. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks LibStar (talk) 22:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for British people

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• Generalissima (submissions) with 1,150 points, mostly from 3 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 7 good articles, and 13 did you know nominations;
• Arconning (submissions) with 791 points, mostly from 2 featured lists, 8 good articles, 4 did you know nominations, and plenty of reviews;
• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions) with 718 points, mostly from a high-multiplier featured article on Genghis Khan and 2 good articles; and
• BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 714 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Susanna Hoffs, 2 featured lists, and 3 good articles.

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Hi. An article you protected over a decade ago seemed to have its protection settings removed recently. Do you mind removing protection settings from its redirect as well?197.2.203.207 (talk) 18:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Sure, why not. Done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 36, 2024)

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Map of the Caroline Islands Archipelago Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Caroline Islands Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Cancel culture • Once Upon a Time in the West Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 9 September 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

This week's article for improvement (week 38, 2024)

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This week's article for improvement (week 39, 2024)

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Vandalism of Gold standard articles by a person who's disruptive edits you've dealt with previously.

Dear administrator. Can you please take a look into the edit history of these Karnataka dynasty pages

1) Chalukya_dynasty 2) Western_Chalukya_Empire 3) Kadamba_dynasty 4) Pallava_dynasty 5) Hoysala_Kingdom 6) Kalachuris_of_Kalyani

They have been continously getting vandalised by a Maratha caste IP looking to promote his caste. Please take a look at his edit history https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/2409:408C:ADB5:3805:E56B:A989:87F5:F563

I think similar edits were made by the same person in the Rashtrakutas dynasty page (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Rashtrakutas&action=history) which made you protect the page for a period of 3 months about 4 days back. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Rashtrakutas&diff=prev&oldid=1247580284)

Kindly do the same for the other dynasty pages he is targetting as well. He is using old British period sources which according to WP:RAJ is unreliable (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_172#Are_British_Raj_ethnographers_unreliable.3F.)

The same account seems to be adding those dynasties to promote his caste here as well List_of_Maratha dynasties_and_states. Please look into it (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_Maratha_dynasties_and_states&action=history).

Thank you. Mpatrol (talk) 10:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 40, 2024)

Eight gold Spanish escudo (1687), issued during the reign of Carlos II of Spain Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Currency of Spain Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Human geography • Polling station Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

Any chance of a DYK prep to queue promotion (or two)?

Casliber, it looks like things are busy where you are, but in case you have any time, might you be able to promote any DYK preps to queues? The queues are all empty, and six preps are full; it would help if we could get some movement here. Many thanks even if now's a bad time; you've done so many promotions over the years. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Taking a look Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much! BlueMoonset (talk) 19:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Not a problem. Been busy (and busy still). Will try to keep an eye on it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Mentor for GA/FAC

Hi Casliber, I am wondering if you would have some time (not urgently) to be a mentor/provide some specific advice regarding the Geologic Time Scale article I've helped significantly revise over the past couple of years. It is currently rated as B-class, but I believe it to be much improved since that assessment. I have requested an independent assessment of it on Wikiproject Geology as I think it may be of A-class now. Additionally I am considering either a GAN or FAC listing, but would appreciate advice from a more experienced editor. Thanks for your time. Jarred C Lloyd (talk) 02:04, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Taking a look Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:11, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

October music

story · music · places

You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, thank you for promoting her to the queue, - my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

I made Leif Segerstam my big story today. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world richer. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted Cucurbita in 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

DYK credit

Hello Cas Liber, it seems my DYK credit for Juno (song) has not been processed despite it being part of a double hook with Bed Chem? I had added it to my nomination within seven days of it being created and bolded it.--NØ 00:25, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Mentor for Tumor Necrosis Factor FAC

Hi Casliber, I am a new editor and recently got Tumor Necrosis Factor promoted to GA status. I'd like to go for Featured Article status, and am wondering if you could be a mentor and provide some advice. Would greatly appreciate any help! AdeptLearner123 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 00:03, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Ah ok. Bit busy but will do so in a few days Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:34, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 41, 2024)

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This week's article for improvement (week 42, 2024)

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This week's article for improvement (week 43, 2024)

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Good article reassessment for Adriatic Sea

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Template:Editnotices/Page/Autism has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:27, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 49, 2024)

Josephson voltage standard chip developed by the National Bureau of Standards as a standard volt Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Volt Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Diurnality • Misplaced Pages:Articles for improvement/2024/47/1 Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 2 December 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

Mentoring for FAC

Hi, I'm contacting you because I noticed your username is listed at WP:FAM and I am interested in nominating a FAC but have never done so in the past. I'm contacting several people listed as FA mentors so if you are busy that is okay. The article is Neurocysticercosis, a parasitic brain disease. I have started a peer review for the article which can be found at Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Neurocysticercosis/archive1. Thanks in advance for your time and consideration! IntentionallyDense 21:55, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

I'll take a look when I can. Been busy IRL and wikipedia has been pushed aside for higher priorities alot of the time but I'll see what I can do. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:32, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much I really appreciate it! IntentionallyDense 01:16, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 50, 2024)

Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Gulf Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Volt • Diurnality Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 9 December 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

This week's article for improvement (week 51, 2024)

Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Jetty Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Gulf • Volt Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 16 December 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

Io Saturnalia!

		Io, Saturnalia!
		Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:00, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

	A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!
	Have a great Christmas, and may 2025 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls or vandals! Cheers SchroCat (talk) 08:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 52, 2024)

Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Architect Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Jetty • Gulf Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

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Good article reassessment for Vampire folklore by region

Vampire folklore by region has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 23:28, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

December music

story · music · places

My third Christmas story is different ;) - enjoy the season! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 1, 2025)

Entomology is the scientific study of insects. Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: Entomology Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Architect • Jetty Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 30 December 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions

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Copy of deleted article Vaughn J Featherstone

Hi. Could you please provide me a copy of the deleted article Vaughn J Featherstone or Vaughn J. Featherstone? Many additional sources are available and I'd like to see whether I might be able to flesh it out. Thanks much. Davemc0 (talk) 19:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Okay I have userfied it and placed it at User talk:Davemc0/Vaughn J. Featherstone. Just keep an eye on notability requirements before moving it to article space. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:11, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

I think it should have been moved to Draft:Vaughn J. Featherstone. If there was a problem with that, it should have been moved to User:Davemc0/Vaughn J. Featherstone. It is not a talk page. Anomalocaris (talk) 21:18, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for providing it. Yes, I'll see whether I can solve the notability problem. Davemc0 (talk) 17:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 2, 2025)

SAARC Region Hello, Casliber. The article for improvement of the week is: South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Entomology • Architect Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions