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Please do not try to provoke me to anger, it's not difficult to do, so it's not in the least bit clever, and experience indicates that some at least who deliberately make my life more miserable than it needs to be, have been banned and stayed that way. Make an effort to ] and let's see if we can't get along. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 22:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC) |
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== Just saying... == |
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Fuck you're a cranky bastard. I've said so several times in the last few days. Yet somehow I've always found you strangely appealing. |
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Much love (but in a safe, manly way)<br/><font color="black">]</font> 13:30, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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* Ha! Damn right. I can be very cranky indeed, especially when I am under time pressures and tight deadlines (which I am right now). Thanks for reminding me to count to ten before clicking Save :-) <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 14:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Hey, I was just about to semiprotect ] when you beat me to it. Great minds etc. Anyhow, I was wondering if you'd mind if I backed the protection down to 1-2 weeks, rather than 6 months. Since it's a talk page, it might make sense to go in small increments. I'll take responsibility for re-semiprotecting the page if the usual suspects start disrupting it again after the semiprotection expires. Anyhow, just wanted to check with you. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 21:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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* Not especially, but be aware that Jed will be right back as soon as it wears off, from past experience. I'm more than happy to share the load here. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 22:26, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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**Yeah, I have no illusions about the degree of persistence here. On the other hand, it'd be nice to balance that with allowing (non-abusive) IPs to edit the talk page. Maybe I'm leaning too far in that direction. Anyhow, I did go ahead and shorten it - I'll keep an eye out for recurrences, and please let me know if I can be of assistance down the line. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 00:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Guy, I think that you shouldn't reply to any message on Talk:Cold fusion about Jed's ban. You are just giving an excuse to Abd to keep posting long posts :) --] (]) 20:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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* Abd's behaviour baffles me. I have never thought of Abd as anything other than a decent, productive editor - one of the many who often do good by fixing up the junk that the less good leave behind, on occasion - but this apparent denial of Pcarbonn's POV-pushing and Rothwell's status as a disruptive POV-pushing ] is absolutely baffling to me. I have a strong impression that there is some back-story that I am missing. It is hard to understand what room there is for doubt here - everything that applies to Pcarbonn in respect of ], ], ] and so on applies doubly to Rothwell, in fact if anything it is Pcarbonn who is acting for Rothwell not the other way around. The less of these kooks' input we have the more chance there is that the article will eventually claw its way back out of the gutter through normal editorial process, which is all I want. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 21:05, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::Well, Guy, you might try paying attention to what I've written here on your Talk page! "POV-pushing" of certain kinds isn't contrary to Misplaced Pages policy and guidelines. I'm not convinced that PCarbonn was actually a POV-pusher; his New Energy Times article seems to have been read with a rather jaundiced eye. But he certainly has a different POV from you! And from ScienceApologist. Researching the history of the article, I was appalled. Look, you had at least some kind of reasonable excuse with Rothwell, his Talk page edits, to someone who wasn't paying attention to the ''purpose'' of linkspam policy and to what Rothwell was actually doing, looked like linkspam, even though, if you read the guidelines, they hardly resemble linkspam at all. They aren't widespread, and they aren't links, just his title. But with New Energy Times, what was your excuse? Could it be that you consider New Energy Times a "fringe" "polemic" site? And how do you judge that? I've now had occasion to speak with Krivit. He's a *journalist* who has come to specialize in the field. He follows journalistic ethics and standards. Yet, the on-line magazine has editorials that express opinions, but that's clearly different from the extensive ''reporting'' that's done there. What was the reason for blacklisting NET? Could it be that you believed it wasn't a usable source? But this is an ''editorial'' decision, not an administrative one. You got confused in your roles. You aren't the first and I'm sure you won't be the last. |
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::Yes, I find this sad, because, in fact, I've seen your good work as well, I've seen you as helpful. On the other hand, Rothwell is an abrasive personality, but he's not a "kook." I know the field of cold fusion, I avidly read everything I could about it back in 1989-1990. I had largely chalked it all up to an unfortunate mistake, experimental error. It is still ''possible'' that this is the case, but it's increasingly unlikely if you read the latest research, which I hadn't until I accidentally noticed a reference to the blacklist on Jehochman Talk. It's not like ] and other major goofs. Quite simply, it turned out to be quite difficult to reproduce, but "quite difficult" doesn't mean that Fleischmann was wrong, it meant that finding verification was going to take a lot more time than anyone expected, and the massive -- and premature -- rejection that you know and I know took place made it all the more difficult. Rothwell knows the field possibly as well as anyone in the field, not as a scientist himself, but as a writer and editor. What he writes about the state of research on cold fusion checks out. He's arrogant and irritating, all the more so because he's usually right when he writes about what he knows about. Not necessarily what he doesn't know about, such as Misplaced Pages process. As a COI editor, he is ''expected'' to have a POV and to "push it," but only in Talk, not in articles. I think you got a tad confused about that. Pcarbonn edited articles. Jed stopped doing that quite a while ago. As to copyright violation, you asserted your own opinion on this, over and over, in the face of expert opinion. Too much belief in yourself, Guy, not enough trust in the ''community.'' |
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::This ready dismissal of "POV pushers" is a serious problem; the fact is that few are able to truly avoid POV pushing while actually working to improve the project. I see your edits to Cold fusion as POV pushing; just a different POV. To me, no single individual determines NPOV; NPOV is actually best measured by consensus; when good-faith, reasonable editors with all POVs agree on text, it is almost certainly NPOV. ''We need editors or advisors (i.e., experts in the field like Rothwell or, on the other side, Shanahan, for example) with strong POVs in order to detect bias.'' And we prevent these POVs from taking over by insisting on consensus process, with all the policies governing editorial behavior; and a crucial part of this is that administrators do not determine content using their tools, with few exceptions. Rather, they police editors to make sure that behavioral guidelines are followed. And, in this, it's crucial that administrators not use their tools when involved, and your edits show, clearly, that you were involved. Please read what response you got to the RfAr, and not just the casual, what's the big deal just ban them response that you got at first. ArbComm is quite different from an administrative noticeboard; it's not the first comments that count, but the sober, cautiously deliberated result, and ArbComm, quite properly, declined to start up that process because it is very time-consuming. Dispute resolution should start right here. If I have a dispute with you, we should attempt to work it out. If we can't agree, then we get help, one step at a time. Let's do it, Guy. If you don't agree with what I've been saying, don't just blow it off. Suggest a mediator, I'm willing to try informally with anyone. If you suggest someone who will just knee-jerk agree with you, well, you'll be wasting your time, my time, and the mediator's time. Once upon a time, I'd have suggested Carcharoth, but as an arbitrator, that could be tricky. Any ideas? --] (]) 05:07, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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AWstats rocks! And the log rollup perl script is marvellous. Now all my esx server logs can be combined! <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 22:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Why? Why? Why? == |
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Why did you delete ']'? Was a redirect '''that''' offensive for you to delete it? It was just a redirect to ], where the 'PINGAS' phrase comes from. Is that 'pure vandalism'? ] (]) 01:20, 31 January 2009 (UTC) |
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* I'm just the janitor here. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 10:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Can you please provide me with a satisfactory explanation as to why you deleted my entry 'Squrgers'. There is no copyright infringement as the material was written by ME, yes it was from the website you mentioned but this is MY website. Therefore how can i be breaching copyright when the material BELONGS to ME? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:21, 31 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:(just passing by) Any text inserted into Misplaced Pages is released by its author under "], Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, with no Front-Cover Texts, and with no Back-Cover Texts.". That website has no copyright notice anywhere saying it's licensed under a GFDL-compatible license, and JzG can't read your mind and know that you are the owner of that website. |
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:You have to put a note on your website saying something like "I release the text on this website under GFDL so it can be used by wikipedia". Or, if you don't want to do that, then maybe it would be easir to put a note on your website saying "User "Squrger" on[REDACTED] has permission to use any text from this website in[REDACTED] articles under GFDL." |
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Hi ]! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ]<sup><small><b>] ]</b></small></sup> 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC) |
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:I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year ]] 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC) |
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* Demanding stuff always works well. Don't forget to ] if the explanation is not to your liking. And write to your Congressman letting him know how evil it is that Misplaced Pages deletes stuff without proof of copyright release - I'm sure that we can get a law passed making it mandatory to leave all material on Misplaced Pages indefinitely if someone says it is theirs, even though we've had people tell us some outrageous fibs about that in the past. |
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: Mind you, the fact that the deleted content was also abject nonsense, utterly failed every policy we have, and was almost certainly advertising as well, does rather weaken your case. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 23:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Aw, come on, Guy. Squrgers contain no scrotums. Surely that counts for something? ] | ] 23:21, 31 January 2009 (UTC). |
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::We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC) |
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:::October JzG sighting at ]. Does my heart good. --] (]) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC) |
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::::Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using ], and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020. |
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::::I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am. |
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::::I thought I'd drop in :-) ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! ] (]) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::Glad you dropped by! ] (]) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. ]] 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::If Guy doesn't look at ] real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - ]the ] 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::::Very happy see the little JzG! ] ] ] 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC). |
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:::::Hah! Good to see you're still around! ] 20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. ''']] (])''' 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC) |
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:Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature ]. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, ] <sup><b>(])</b></sup> 11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC) |
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Yes, it had been recreated. The original vote to delete was based (iirc) on a lack of reliable sources and unclear notability. The new version of the article (i.e., the one that was just deleted) was necessarily similar to the originally-deleted version - but had made a genuine effort to address the RS/notability concerns. As such, does it really fall under CSD:G4? - "provided the copy is substantially identical to the deleted version and that any changes in the recreated page do not address the reasons for which the material was deleted." That is, was it really "substantially identical"? - ] | ] 23:14, 31 January 2009 (UTC) |
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* Try a sourced userspace rewrite and DRV, that is the best method. Otherwise crap which was delete dis always likely to be deleted again when it's re-created, because we have had too many bad experiences with obsessive fans gaming the system by writing New! IMPROVED!! articles which are not ''quite'' the same. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 23:20, 31 January 2009 (UTC) |
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