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<div class="boilerplate metadata" id="Arbcom thanks" style="{{divstyleblue}}"><b>Thank you to everyone who has participated in the 2008 Arbitration Committee vote. My sincere thanks go to both those of you who chose to place your trust in me and support my candidacy as well as those who expressed your care and concern for the encyclopedia by voicing your opposition. As I have been offered to sit for one year on the Committee, I will serve and help Misplaced Pages and its editors to the best of my abilities during that year. Thank you for your trust and confidence. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 00:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)</b></div>


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== ''Bots Newsletter'', December 2021 ==
== Albe Back ==


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The information that was posted on Albe Back's wikipedia was done for our client Albe by moonsix communications inc. We posted the copyright for the website it was originally posted on, we own the copyright so there should be no problems with copyright infringement.
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Welcome to the eighth issue of the English Misplaced Pages's ''Bots Newsletter'', your source for all things ]. Maintainers disappeared to parts unknown... bots awakening from the slumber of æons... hundreds of thousands of short descriptions... these stories, ''and more'', are brought to you by Misplaced Pages's most distinguished newsletter about bots.


Our ] was in August 2019, so there's quite a bit of catching up to do. Due to the vast quantity of things that have happened, the next few issues will only cover a few months at a time. This month, we'll go from September 2019 through the end of the year. I won't bore you with further introductions — instead, I'll bore you with a newsletter about bots.
== copyright ok for artcile "Roger B. Baron", please re-establish ==


<span style="font-size:125%">'''Overall'''</span><br />
I am the author of http://regor.meta-x.org/Baron/index_en.html , text from which the wikipedia article I submitted, "Roger B. Baron", was widely inspired from.
* Between September and December 2019, there were 33 ]s. Of these, {{yeac}} 25 were approved, and 8 were unsuccessful ({{nayd}} 3 denied, {{idkc}} 3 withdrawn, and ] 2 expired).
And I am willing to permit it re-use under the GFDL.


<span style="font-size:125%">'''September 2019'''</span>
You can verify authenticity by matching the email of my wikipedia account (Montmartrebear) with the author's email on http://regor.meta-x.org/Baron/index_en.html : regor <at> meta-x <dot> org
]
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ], ] · {{idkc}} ], ]
*'''TParis goes away, UTRSBot goes kaput''': ] ] that ] for maintaining on-wiki records of ] appeals stopped working a while ago. ], the semi-retired user who had previously run it, said they were "unlikely to return to actively editing Misplaced Pages", and the bot had been vanquished by trolls submitting bogus UTRS requests on behalf of real blocked users. While ] was a potential fix, neither maintainer had time to implement it. TParis offered to access to the UTRS WMFLabs account to any admin identified with the WMF: "I miss you guys a whole lot but I've also moved on with my life. Good luck, let me know how I can help". Ultimately, ] ended up in charge. Some progress was made, and the bot continued to work another couple months — but as of press time, UTRSBot has not edited since November 2019.
*'''Article-measuring contest resumed''': The ], which had lain dead for several years, was triumphantly resurrected by ] following a ].


<span style="font-size:125%">'''October 2019'''</span>
Therefore, I kindly ask you to re-establish this article.
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ]
*'''Curb Safe Charmer adopts reFill''': ] ] that ]'s bug reports were going unanswered; creator ] had retired from Misplaced Pages, and a maintainer was needed. As of June 2021, ] had ], saying: "Not that I have all the skills needed but better me than nobody! 'Maintainer' might be too strong a term though. Volunteers welcome!" <br />


<span style="font-size:125%">'''November 2019'''</span>
== 1944 D-Day: Operation Overlord ==
]
* {{yeac}} ], ], ] · {{idkc}} ]
*'''Old bots do new tricks''': ] prowled redirects, ] archived ] requests, and ] removed links to ] deleted at ] (until its authorization was revoked in January at operator ]'s ]).


<span style="font-size:125%">'''December 2019'''</span>
I actually got that info from www.1944d-day.com and I did reference it. If there's anything more I shoul do, please let me know. ] (])Legend6
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ] ·] ], ]
*'''Redirects to be autopatrolled''': A ] at ], closing with unanimous consensus that new ] should be ] by bot. ] wasted no time, and submitted ] the next day; it passed two days after that.
*'''200,000 bios get short descs''': Along a similar vein, ] was approved to remove disambiguation pages from ] and a new bot (]) changed lots of ] links to ] using ]. One particularly neat task, ], automatically generated ] for more than 200,000 biographies.


<span style="font-size:150%">'''In the next issue of ''Bots Newsletter'':'''</span><br />
== Conomination? ==
What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?
*What happens when two bots want to clerk the same page?
*What happens when an adminbot goes hog wild?
*Will reFill ever get fixed?
*What's up with ], anyway?
*Python 3.4 deprecation? In ''my'' PyWikiBot? (It's more likely than you think!)
These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the January 2022 ''Bots Newsletter''. Tune in, or miss out!


Signing off... ''']'''×''']''' 04:29, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Coren, the other day I made the mistake of restoring an image before I really checked out how easy it would be to decipher. Translated captions are becoming standard at featured picture candidates these days, so this would stall without help from a native speaker. The handwriting is a bit hard for me to make out here. Got assistance from an anglophone Canadian, who agreed this is a toughie. Partial translation is already done. I'd conominate and share featured credit in return for the assistance. Interested? <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 03:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
:Sure thing. It's slightly older french but I can parse all of it. Give me a few minutes to transcribe first then translate. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 04:39, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Here's what we have so far. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 04:44, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


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== Bots Newsletter, January 2022 ==
I'll do you one better on that part:
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Nota. L'hirondellier devant être facilement démontable, toutes les pièces de charpente au lieu d'être assemblées seront moisées. La partie hachurée de la coupe sera pleine. La vitrerie sera comprise dans toute la partie formant l'hirondellier proprement dit (2.80) et la couverture du dit où n'est que la partie formant lanterneau.
Un tambour de 0m30 environ de profondeur sera menagé dans la partie indiquée au plan. Avec 2 portes de 0m60 environ formée de trillages en fil de fer et d'un chassis en fer.
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Note. Because the aviary requires easy dismantling, all carpentry pieces must be braced rather than assembled . The hatched parts on the cross-section are to be in one piece. Glass windows will be inserted in the component forming the aviary proper (2.80), and the roof thereof, only where the lantern-shaped part is.
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A ring with a height of approximately 0m30 will be placed at the location indicated on the schematic. Includes two doors of approximately 0m60 made of iron wire mesh and an iron frame.
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Welcome to the ninth issue of the English Misplaced Pages's ''Bots Newsletter'', your source for all things ]. Vicious bot-on-bot edit warring... superseded tasks... policy proposals... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Misplaced Pages's most distinguished newsletter about bots.


After a long hiatus between August 2019 and December 2021, there's quite a bit of ground to cover. Due to the vastness, I decided in December to split the coverage up into a few installments that covered six months each. Some people thought this was a good idea, since covering an entire year in a single issue would make it unmanageably large. Others thought this was stupid, since they were getting talk page messages about crap from almost three years ago. Ultimately, the question of whether each issue covers six months or a year is only relevant for a couple more of them, and then the problem will be behind us forever.
Don't hold me to this just yet, I haven't given up on the harder to read spot where writing overlaps on itself. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 05:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


Of course, you can also look on the bright side – we are making progress, and this issue will only be about crap from almost ''two'' years ago. Today we will pick up where we left off in December, and go through the first half of 2020.
:I'm still unsure what the overwritten part says; and I doubt I'll be able to parse it without a different image. The month name at the bottom is also hard to decipher. To me, the letters could possibly be "jhu", "jru" or even possibly 'fru' &mdash; I expect some abbreviation of ''juillet'' or ''juin''. The year is incompatible with the republican calendar so the latter is not possible. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 05:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


<span style="font-size:150%">'''Overall'''</span><br />
:The above is the best quality translation I can give you from this source image. <s>If you have the original handy, I might have an easier time reading through the obscured part (sometimes, noise that is visually distracting still conveys information that can help reading).</s> The month is visually clear, but completely incomprehensible to me. January, February, June and July are the only reasonable possibilities because of the initial descender, with the latter two most likely. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 06:02, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
In the first half of 2020, there were 71 ]s. Of these, {{yeac}} 59 were approved, and 12 were unsuccessful (with {{nayd}} 8 denied, {{idkc}} 2 withdrawn, and ] 2 expired).


<span style="font-size:125%">'''January 2020'''</span>
:Oh, and as a last note, the captions read (translated) from the top left, "ELÉVATION" (elevation), "COUPE" (section), "PLAN" (plan view) and "Echelle 0m02 p.m." (Scale 0.02m per meter). &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 06:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
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::Haven't forgotten you. Reading up on the man who inspired this, a DYK was absolutely necessary. You'll laugh. ]. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 06:59, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
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] waiting for your signature. :) <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 00:26, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
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:Signed. It ''is'' a pretty diagram for a silly idea. :-) I'm going to add a translation note to the image, though. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 00:39, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
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== Misha Quint Article ==
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Hello: I have permission to use this information that are listed on these websites, as well as the images. How would I prove that? Would it be possible for me to list references for this material and keep it as is? I am new to Misplaced Pages. Sorry for the violation of policy. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:10, 28 February 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
| image3=Albino Olive Python (Liasis olivaceus).jpg | alt3=A python
:Please read ] permission to use copyrighted works on Misplaced Pages. Note that, in addition to copyright requirements, the article must still comply with ], ] and avoid ]. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 23:35, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
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* {{yeac}} ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ], ]
== Hey ==
*A new ] release dropped support for ], and it was expected that support for ] would be removed in coming updates. ] itself planned to drop Python 2 support in 2022.

*Two new bots dropped in January 2020: ], the successor to ], and ], whose task was to perform a weekly update of four "massive" wikitables for ].
If I apply to be an administrator do I manually post it to the Request for admin page
*], an ] operated by ] since 2006, was ] after going berserk on categories that hadn't yet been ]'d.


thanks
--] (]) 00:07, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, as outlined in the instructions on ] page. However, I would recommend against applying so soon: the community generally expects an editor to have several months' experience and a few thousand edits before they apply, so that you have had a good opportunity to learn the ropes. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 02:22, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== Please, I need some help on this - "problem" ==

Hi, I copied my own article written by me and pasted it into wikipedia and now it tells me that that was a copywrite violation.

I did not violate anything, that was my own article written from my own experience.

Please, how can I remove or correct the thing, because now it doesn't even let me to log in.

This is not OK - the process of creating pages and articles should be easier.

Sincerely
Anatoly <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:16, 1 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Please read ] to donating your own copyrighted material to Misplaced Pages. Note that, in addition to copyright requirements, the article must still comply with ], ] and avoid ]. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 17:38, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== Question ==

Please see my question ]. ] (]) 16:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== Speedy delete request ==

I didn't understand something about a speedy delete request being declined in your past. I don't really need or want to know more, but your name came to mind as I posting my first speedy delete request for something I hadn't myself created.

The technical issues of speedy deletion do not interest me -- but I feel compelled to become more familiar with issues having to do with Misplaced Pages as a battlefield. It bothers me to see Misplaced Pages articles used as a tool for forwarding a specific "pro-" or "anti-" position having to do with nation states. I don't even know how to put it into words yet -- but I know when something is amiss, even when I don't understand why or how or whatever-it-is-which causes me to feel increasing levels of alarm.


<span style="font-size:125%">'''February 2020'''</span>
Mongolians are offended by an article title -- ]. The article was created by a Chinese vandal; and I'm bothered by the fact that I didn't realize that it was vandalism until I'd invested a significant amount of time checking meaningless citations. I even went to the library to look at a book which said the opposite of what was claimed. No element of the vandals work had any redeeming quality save for the topic itself -- and an entirely new article has been created at ]. The Mongolians want the title erased for reasons I don't have to understand. The participation in discussion threads has sufficiently garnered respect for a sensitivity I can't fathom.
]
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ]
*On February 1, some ] were raised about ] performing "nonsense" edits. Semi-active operator ] (who originally coded the ] of ]) was pinged. Meanwhile, the bot was temporarily <span class="plainlinks"></span> for several hours until the issue was diagnosed and resolved.
*On February 18, ] got into a <span class="plainlinks"></span> with ], and had to be partially-blocked from ].


<span style="font-size:125%">'''March 2020'''</span>
You have expressed concern that a kind of pernicious nationalism is poisoning Misplaced Pages at a macro-level which needs to be addressed by Arbcom intervention. Much of that is beyond my ability to grasp, but I'm persuaded that I need to encouraging your efforts to deal with this issue.
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] ·] ]
* In March, a long ] was started at ] by ] about the troubling trend of bots "expiring" without explanation after their owners became inactive. This can happen for a variety of reasons -- ] changes break code, hosting providers' software updates break code, hosting accounts lapse, software changes make bots' edits unnecessary, and policy changes make bots' edits unwanted. The most promising solution seemed to be ] hosting (although it has some problems of its own, like the occasional necessity of refactoring code).
* Some of the twelve bot tasks approved this month were ] (removing blocked users from ]), and ] (removing ''unblocked'' users from ]). ] was approved to refine geographic stub tags. New bots approved this month were ] (to patrol ]), ] (to merge stub tags), and ] (fixing DISPLAYTITLE modifications, DEFAULTSORT errors and broken behavior switches in ]).
<span style="font-size:125%">'''April 2020'''</span>
]
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ] ·] ]
*A ] on the bot noticeboard, "Re-examination of ListeriaBot", was started by ], who pointed out repeated operation outside the scope of its BRFA (i.e. editing pages in mainspace, and adding ] to others). Some said it was doing good work, and others said it was operating beyond its remit. It was <span class="plainlinks"></span> on April 10; the next day it was unblocked, reblocked from article space, reblocked "for specified non-editing actions", unblocked, and indeffed. The next week, several ] were implemented in its code by Magnus; the bot was allowed to roam free once more on April 18.
*] joined the stable in April, after a BRFA started in December was finally completed. As an adminbot, it was authorized to block ]es belonging to ], public ]s, and ]s. New tasks approved for existing bots included ] (] categories), ] (taking over some tasks from the inactive ]), and ] (updating data at {{tl|Interactive COVID-19 maps}}). Also, ] was approved to scale down non-free ]s — I didn't even know that was a thing.
* A ] at ] was started by ] about whether ] should explicitly specify that bot operators must be responsive to concerns raised on English Misplaced Pages specifically (as opposed to ], ], ], et cetera). Eventually, the policy was amended to its ]:
:<blockquote>Issues and enquiries are typically expected to be handled on the English Misplaced Pages. Pages reachable via ], like a talk page at ] or at ] could also be acceptable External sites like ] or ] (which require separate registration or do not allow for IP comments) and email (which can compromise ]) can supplement on-wiki communication, but do not replace it.</blockquote>


<span style="font-size:125%">'''May 2020'''</span>
My strategy involves reminding you of the consequences of an insidious problem which play out on a tiny scale like this one. It shouldn't matter that I'm not a Mongolian, but the fact is that it does in this context.
]
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ], ], ] · {{idkc}} ]
*], an impressively meta bot task, was approved this month for maintaining a list of bots running on the English Misplaced Pages. The page, located at ], is updated every 24 hours; it contains a list of all accounts with the bot flag, as well as their operator, edit count, last activity date, last edit date, last logged action date, user groups and block status.
*Other approvals for this month were ] (processing redirects in {{tl|R from scientific name}}), ] (allowing users to schedule bot reminders for themselves), ] (removing blocked/locked users from ]), ] (updating ]), ] (adding <nowiki>{{</nowiki>]|living=no<nowiki>}}</nowiki> to talk pages where their associated article is in a year of death category), and ] (deleting and nominating empty categories).
*General syntax fixing tasks were approved for ], ], ], ], ], and ], as well as ] ], ], and ].
*Seven bots who fell below ] (with neither the bots nor their operators having any edits or logged actions in two years) had their bot flags removed. They were ], ], ], ], ], ], and ].
*On May 12, ] was ].


<span style="font-size:125%">'''June 2020'''</span>
When you confront macro-level nationalism issues, please bear in mind that you are addressing an important issue with a host of unforeseen consequences. This investment of time and concern are well worth the inconvenience or annoyance you must deal with as well. --] (]) 23:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
]
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ] · {{idkc}} ]
*In July 2017, ] made a ] that a section of the ] be devoted to bots and technical issues. In November 2019, ] code was written superseding ]'s tasks on that page, and operator ] was asked to stop them so that the new code could be deployed. After no response to pings, a ] of Legobot for the dashboard was proposed. Some months later, on June 16, Headbomb said: "A full block serves nothing. A partial block solves all current issues Just fucking do it. It's been 3 years now." The next day, however, Legoktm disabled the task, and the dashboard was successfully refactored.
*On June 7, ] blocked ] for ], saying it was "still removing links after request to stop". A couple weeks later, a ] was opened, saying "it is a widely-used and useful bot, but it has one of the longest block logs for any recently-operating bot on Misplaced Pages". While its last BRFA approval was in 2011, its code and functionality had changed dramatically since then, and ] requested that BAG require a new BRFA. Maintainer ] responded that most blocks were from years ago (when it lacked a proper ]), and problems since then had mostly been one-off errors (like a ] in which a ] had "weaponized" the bot to harass editors).
*] opened a discussion about ], and proposed that they not. He cited a recent case in which a maintainer had said "I can only suppose that the code that is available on GitHub is not the actual code that was running on ". Some disagreed: ] said that "I like free software as much as the next person, and I strongly believe that bot operators should make their bot code public, but I don't think it should be that they must do so".
*Two new bots had their first BRFAs approved: ], to replace ] for handling the ], and ], to remove {{tl|user sandbox}} from articles in draftspace using ].


<span style="font-size:150%">'''Conclusion'''</span><br />
:I think this is an unavoidable consequence of Misplaced Pages's increased "respectability" and visibility. Ironically, the more accurate and reliable we become, the stronger the pressures to twist that reliability into supporting various points of view becomes &mdash; the effect of which you have witnessed firsthand. ''Because'' we are increasingly the first reference people look towards for an overview on mostly any topic, any group who feel they have a cause to represent will consider that making certain Misplaced Pages reflects "The Truth" is both a duty and an obligation. Nationalist and religious disputes tend to be the foremost amongst those because of the very high degree of fanaticism and zealotry those areas can generate &mdash; and the disputants are rarely tractable since ''all'' sides of the issue will perceive the others as vandals or worse since they are "obviously" trying to distort "The Truth".<p>Part of the reasons this problem is so difficult is that, fundamentally, everyone involved is convinced that they, and they ''alone'', are trying to uphold neutrality. And administrator intervention is almost invariably viewed as biased (when not outright decried as being done by agents of the opposing side).<p>It's a hard problem, and there are no simple solutions in view. As the mandate progresses, I'll be attempting to make things more difficult for such point of view warriors&mdash; we cannot change ''them'', but we can make the environment unattractive for such warring to take place. It will be a long haul fix because Misplaced Pages was founded on the principle that consensus will allow reaching neutrality; but that principle breaks down when extremist or zealous participants are involved (being unable or unwilling to compromise or see any deviation from their position as increasing bias and inaccuracy). &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 23:32, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
* What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?
:*Will Citation bot ever be set free to roam the project?
:*What's the deal with all those book links that ] is adding to articles?
:*Should we keep using Gerrit for MediaWiki?
:*What if we had a day for bots to make cosmetic edits?
These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the February 2022 ''Bots Newsletter''. Tune in, or miss out!


Signing off... <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">''']'''×''']'''</span> 23:22, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
::I declare myself to be a ] of the Church of ]. The sole tenant of my narrow-minded church involves dwelling on the first sentence on the page at ]:
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:::"The threshold for inclusion in Misplaced Pages is ], not ]-— that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Misplaced Pages has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true."
::This nuanced sentence re-invigorates my reliance on the distinction between a ] (as specifically clarified by ] and a mere ] ... which is a very slender reed, but there you have it. --] (]) 01:48, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Ah, would things be that simple! :-) The problem is that most any point of view can be made verifiable with the "right" sources; and it's trivial to conflate a minority viewpoint into The Truth if you put your back to it. This is why there is also ] and ] to balance things out (or try to). Remember that no matter how arcane, how biased your point of view you can always find ''some'' sources that back it up. Left unchecked, ] on its own would destroy Misplaced Pages just as well as allowing random rants. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 02:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


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== The Dark Nebula ==
This was indeed a split, and I tried to indicate as much in the summary - apologies if I missed a keyword that would appease the bot. --] (]) 03:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


Hi, I tried to place this entry on Misplaced Pages some years ago & was cited as plagiarising an entry on comixpedia. That listing was indeed by me so i was not copying that post but, instead, reposting on Misplaced Pages, unaware that was not appropriate. I am attempting to post this on Misplaced Pages again & would like to know what is required to be removed or altered so that it would indeed be complying with the rules. I'm 62 years of age & not as tech-savvy as i would otherwise like to be.
== Would you help me? ==


I should point out that comixpedia is no longer what it was. In fact, if you click on the link for Comixpedia or more specifically the entry regarding The Dark Nebula it is all an Indonesian Gaming/Gambling site, nothing to do with The Dark Nebula or Comics in any way, shape or form.
Would you, please remove my article together with my domain name in it? I wrote about it before - now I can't even log in.


To be clear the substance of the proposed entry originated from me, including images. I hope a resolution can be reached.
Sincerely <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


I leave this in your hands.
== ] ==


Thank you
I removed the tag as there is no error. I copied some material from Ablekum Central to speed up page creation.--] (]) 11:00, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
] (]) 08:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


== Oversight access == == Ten years later ==


Hi Coren,
You've it! :) Regards, ] (]) 11:11, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


I resolved when I became an admin that I'd swing by here the first time I had a block overturned, even if you were inactive; and after 6 months and 1,421 blocks that's finally happened, sadly, so here I am. You probably don't remember me, but ten years and two usernames ago (''Francophonie&Androphilie'', kinda cringe name) you indeffed me and then reversed yourself after objections at AN/I. I expected I'd have something to say, when this day did come, about what I've learned from having a block overturned, but really all I can say is that it's unpleasant—both getting it wrong and being told you got it wrong—which is no great insight. But I guess I thought it might please (or at least amuse) you to know I stuck around and am an admin now; and also thought I'd take this as an opportunity to say hi and ask how you've been doing. Maybe you won't see this for a year or won't see it ever, but can't hurt to ask.
== CorenSearchBot False Positive ==


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Reported ] as an infringement of - this site is scraping wikipedia content and copying us! ] (]) 19:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
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Bots Newsletter, December 2021

Bots Newsletter, December 2021
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Welcome to the eighth issue of the English Misplaced Pages's Bots Newsletter, your source for all things bot. Maintainers disappeared to parts unknown... bots awakening from the slumber of æons... hundreds of thousands of short descriptions... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Misplaced Pages's most distinguished newsletter about bots.

Our last issue was in August 2019, so there's quite a bit of catching up to do. Due to the vast quantity of things that have happened, the next few issues will only cover a few months at a time. This month, we'll go from September 2019 through the end of the year. I won't bore you with further introductions — instead, I'll bore you with a newsletter about bots.

Overall

  • Between September and December 2019, there were 33 BRFAs. Of these, Green checkmarkY 25 were approved, and 8 were unsuccessful (Dark red X symbolN2 3 denied, Blue question mark? 3 withdrawn, and Expired 2 expired).

September 2019

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October 2019

November 2019

Now you're thinking with portals.

December 2019

In the next issue of Bots Newsletter:
What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?

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Bots Newsletter, January 2022

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In the first half of 2020, there were 71 BRFAs. Of these, Green checkmarkY 59 were approved, and 12 were unsuccessful (with Dark red X symbolN2 8 denied, Blue question mark? 2 withdrawn, and Expired 2 expired).

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The Dark Nebula

Hi, I tried to place this entry on Misplaced Pages some years ago & was cited as plagiarising an entry on comixpedia. That listing was indeed by me so i was not copying that post but, instead, reposting on Misplaced Pages, unaware that was not appropriate. I am attempting to post this on Misplaced Pages again & would like to know what is required to be removed or altered so that it would indeed be complying with the rules. I'm 62 years of age & not as tech-savvy as i would otherwise like to be.

I should point out that comixpedia is no longer what it was. In fact, if you click on the link for Comixpedia or more specifically the entry regarding The Dark Nebula it is all an Indonesian Gaming/Gambling site, nothing to do with The Dark Nebula or Comics in any way, shape or form.

To be clear the substance of the proposed entry originated from me, including images. I hope a resolution can be reached.

I leave this in your hands.

Thank you The Dark Nebula (talk) 08:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Ten years later

Hi Coren,

I resolved when I became an admin that I'd swing by here the first time I had a block overturned, even if you were inactive; and after 6 months and 1,421 blocks that's finally happened, sadly, so here I am. You probably don't remember me, but ten years and two usernames ago (Francophonie&Androphilie, kinda cringe name) you indeffed me and then reversed yourself after objections at AN/I. I expected I'd have something to say, when this day did come, about what I've learned from having a block overturned, but really all I can say is that it's unpleasant—both getting it wrong and being told you got it wrong—which is no great insight. But I guess I thought it might please (or at least amuse) you to know I stuck around and am an admin now; and also thought I'd take this as an opportunity to say hi and ask how you've been doing. Maybe you won't see this for a year or won't see it ever, but can't hurt to ask.

-- Tamzin (she|they|xe) 22:13, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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