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I was able to find only one current biography and one turn of the century biography. Our dear boy, although more famous than Dickens 150 years ago, is basically ignored today. That is great news if you want to publish something real on him (we could chat about -that- sometime later). However, it might cause a strain when writing a Wiki page. Two sources is more than enough for a nice biography but it is still a shame and lacks variety. I found perhaps half a dozen references to various works and to him in some general books on Victorian literature, which can fill in some gaps. My obligations will be nil in 2 weeks, so I can start putting together everything on a subpage so we can go over what is there. I definitely think a paper could be easily written on how his historical romances compare to Scott or how he deals with Manchester in comparison to Gaskell among other topics if you want to pursue something outside for publication. ] (]) 22:11, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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:I've also not found it easy to find much information on Ainsworth, even here in Manchester! --] ] 22:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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::Any kind of "Ainsworth" house? When I go through the biography I can hunt down addresses for you to take pictures of (hoping the buildings still exist). I do know that works including those on Dickens discuss Ainsworth, so we can always use them to piece it together, but it looks like we are stuck with a structure of two biographies, and only one that we can really "trust" academically. I've been in worse situations. :) ] (]) 22:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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:::I don't know of any Ainsworth house, but there might be a ] somewhere, I'll check. Don't know why I didn't think of doing that before. I'll be happy to take pictures of whatever will help to tell his story. We may eventually stumble at FA, but surely we can at least do the man justice with a well-rounded GA? --] ] 22:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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::::Oh, I have more than enough for an FA and possible 4 or 5 scholarly articles (perhaps a book or two). The thing is, I don't have enough for a -Johnson- size FA, let alone for what Milton would look like. It just wont be as satisfying compared to the fame and respect that he had during his time. The man was greater than Dickens and yet snubbed by history. Blah! ] (]) 22:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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I found another biography (making it three) and some other books that will help. I will start next week. ] (]) 20:11, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
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:I look forward to seeing what you can conjure up Ottava. :-) --] ] 20:23, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
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::I'm going to put together a substantial biography on subspace, then put together notes about books. If you can work on some plot summaries, we can think about how to work out a major set for DYK and publish a bunch of well written pages together and move some towards FA level. It should be fun. Also, since Ainsworth scholarship is so light, we really should think about publishing our own work, then having someone else add what we say to Misplaced Pages. :D ] (]) 20:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
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:::I've never written a plot summary, got some catching up to do! --] ] 20:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
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::::I take it that you would be able to read his action novels, no? : P ] (]) 21:01, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
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:::::His action novels? The first one I'll be reading is '']'', the only one that's never been out of print; I'm a bit surprised there isn't already an article on that. Quite a few of his novels are in Manchester Library's catalogue, so I'll make a start there. I take it that one of the books you've already got is Ellis's ''William Harrison Ainsworth and his friends''? --] ] 21:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
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::::::I meant to say -actual- novels but I obviously didn't pay attention to anything my fingers decided to type. I have Ellis's book, which would be good for you to have in comparison. I have two others, including the uber expensive ''The Life and Works of the Lancashire Novelist William Harrison Ainsworth'' by Stephen Carver. ] (]) 21:48, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
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← I've used the word "gobsmacked" a few times recently, but I really ''was'' gobsmacked this morning when I idley thought of moving the list of Ainsworth's works into a "List of ..." article. Right there, staring me in the face, was the claim that Ainsworth wrote '']''. --] ] 01:10, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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:Quite strange. By the way, I have first editions/early editions of 4 of his novels plus first collected editions (Vol 1-6) of the ''Ainsworth Magazine''. I will upload some of the images. What I am thinking is to work on the biography, then have in subspage 6-8 different novel pages and maybe a page on his style. That way, we can have a large DYK with some well written pages. We will have to think of a unifying theme (or, we can just have his most "popular" novels listed and mention that he was bigger than Dickens at one time, which would get people interested). After the DYK phase, the rest would be easy. I'll put something together in terms of biography and notes on various books by mid-next week. This is going to be fun. Its about time Manchester literature received its due. :) ] (]) 01:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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::DYK remains ]. I'm beginning to feel like I'm ploughing a lonely furrow with historic computers so I'm looking forward to something more collaborative. Bear in mind though that the only resources I bring are whatever is available in Manchester's public libraries. Oh, and a ]. --] ] 02:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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:::DYK has become political, as of late. It never was, but... My new strategy is to keep things in subspace until I get approval. That way, I wont have to worry about time constraints. ] (]) 18:12, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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]. I'm slowly starting. I'm going to put all of the biography stuff there. Then we can talk about what is split to the early life, possible pages for some of his other family members (there is a bit out there). After I put together this, I will put together a page on his literary career, his novel style, his reputation, the ''Ainsworth's Magazine'', and a few other things. Then we can figure out how much is summarized on the main page, what information is needed where, and we can work out the individual novels. I'm going to keep it on subpage until we get things mostly worked out. That way, we can move it to mainspace in chunks, have it go through DYK, and get Ainsworth promoted. He was ignored by history for writing historical romance, for being from Manchester, etc etc. We can make sure to return him back to his proper position and overcome the politics. Also, I have a few ideas for some articles that we can write along with possibly writing some introductions to some of his works and propose to get some of the novels republished (there are 4 that really should be). What a better way to give back to your community than by resurrecting Mr Manchester himself? :) ] (]) 19:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
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:His does seem to have been a remarkable decline from grace. I've started a ]. --] ] 19:28, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
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::Would you mind if we move that to subspace for a few days? If not, that is fine. I'm going to add some of his other stuff shortly based on what I have. ] (]) 20:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
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::::Give me a few minutes and I will show you why he was more famous than Dickens for a good 15 years. :) ] (]) 20:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
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::Ainsworth is undoubtedly a worthy subject, but I have to confess that my motivation to make any further contributions to[REDACTED] is at an all-time low. I guess we all go through phases like that from time to time though. --] ] 22:34, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
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I was in the middle of typing my reply when you closed the WQA. I was in the middle of removing my comments when you re-opened it. I would recommend that you remove my comments ("this is a subject at ANI now") and close the danged thing. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;Bwilkins / BMW&nbsp;'''</span>]) 17:31, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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Have a nice day. :-) ] (]) 21:52, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks very much. That'll go nicely with the glass of cold beer I've just poured myself. :-) --] ] 21:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

::You're welcome! :-) ] (]) 21:57, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

== FAC revisit ==

Do you have time for a new look at ] before the day is out? Best, ] (]) 20:43, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

:I'll take another look shortly. I'd be very disinclined to oppose even if my comments weren't addressed though. --] ] 20:45, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Ælfheah... ==

Is done... so is Hilary in good shape? I added some tidbits today, but not much... ] - ] 01:00, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

:Oops, I'd forgotten about ]; let me take another look. --] ] 01:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

:I think Hilary's good to go now, good luck! --] ] 22:41, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== DYK for Manchester computers ==

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== WikiProject Greater Manchester March Newsletter, Issue XV ==

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== ] GA review ==

Thanks for the review. I'll do some of the easier copyediting, but I doubt there are enough active contributors to address all your points within a week. Are you just picking an article out of a to-do list, or do you have some interest in Forth or programming languages? --] (]) 18:20, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

:The article came from . Although I flatter myself that I'm pretty much up to speed with programming languages and computer software in general, I'm afraid that I have no particular interest in Forth. I think there's a great deal that needs to be done to the article, and what is likely to be the most difficult task is adding citations and reliable sources. I was tempted to delist the article as I too think addressing everything that needs to be done is a big job that is unlikely to be able to be done any time soon. What do think? Is there any point in keeping the review open? The article can always be resubmitted to GAN as soon as the work is finished anyway. --] ] 18:47, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

::How about adding maintenance templates to specific sections with your remaining concerns, and let it stew for a month or two before revisiting the article? (Or does adding such a template automatically delist the article?) Another idea is to find some of the more active editors from the page history and notify them of the review on their talk pages. Or maybe find another couple active editors with more programming language expertise to help out. Also, I presume you are referencing the ]? --] (]) 19:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

:::I've listed my concerns and drawn attention to a few of the sections that need to be cited in the review, along with the other issues I believe need to be addressed. If you or anyone else wants to add tags to the article then please feel free to do so. All articles listed as GA must meet the ], no matter what any project-specific guidelines may say. Of the seven examples listed as good articles at ] only two are actually still listed and one was never listed. Those guidelines merely constitute advice as to content though, which is the third of the GA criteria. Every article must meet all six.

:::With the best will in the world, I am not going to embark on a search for editors to save every article which is in danger of being delisted. I have notified the project that tagged the article and I would hope that any interested editors would have this article on their watch lists and so would be aware of its reassessment. I will revisit the article in seven days and decide on its GA listing then. --] ] 20:22, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

== Bride of 'stein ==

Thanks for the copyedits there. I was too busy being surly to check if anyone had actually edited the article. --] ] 21:34, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

:No worries, I've been there as well. ;-) --] ] 21:50, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Query: ] ] (]) 00:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

== Eastwood, Nottinghamshire ==

Hi,

Regarding your oppose of FAC for ],

Please could you give more details regarding your areas of concern, as to which parts need to be developed etc?

Thanks, --<small><span style="border: 1px solid">]]</span></small> 15:45, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

:Replied on your talk page. --] ] 19:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

== Daedalus969 isn't an administrator ==

I think you'll be glad to hear that ] isn't actually an admin .--]<sup>]/]</sup> 21:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

:Only a matter of time I'm sure. He has all of the necessary qualities. --] ] 21:18, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::He won't pass adminship the way he's going now. He's too serious and trigger happy, and has too much pride.--]<sup>]/]</sup> 21:26, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

== Aw.. nuts... ==

You're not thinking I'm all bent out of shape are you? I was having fun. Later in the day I get a bit looser with manners. In the morning I'll be all embarrassed...

I apologize if I was too informal. That's what fun does; someone's eye gets put out some way or another. --] (]) 04:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

== Ireland naming question ==
You are receiving this message because you have previously posted at a Ireland naming related discussion. Per ], a procedure has been developed at ], and the project is now taking statements. <!-- yet to be put there --> Before creating or replying to a statement please consider the ], the ] and current ]. ] (]) 18:10, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks, but I prefer to stay as far away from Ireland articles and the issues surrounding them as is humanly possible. --] ] 18:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

== DYK help... ==

Can you find ANYTHING interesting to mention for DYK for this guy ]? I can't. Hate to waste the expansion though... ] - ] 21:38, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

:How about just stating the obvious, "... that ''']''' was ] from 1269 to 1275?" No one said DYK had to be interesting, I once got Leon Johnson (a pretty unremarkable West Indian cricketer) past DYK with the hook "... that Leon Johnson, a West Indian cricketer, captained the West Indies team at the 2006 U/19 Cricket World Cup?", and &ndash; no offence to him &ndash; he doesn't sound as interesting as a medieval bishop. ] (]) 21:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

:I prefer to hook into the whacky. Did you know that :"... the medieval bishop ] is credited with having written a legal treatise 15 years after his death?" --] ] 21:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

::Damn, I missed that. I must admit I felt like I'd cheated with Leon Johnson because it wasn't interesting. I can do spooky too, check out ]; when it was on DKY. ] (]) 21:57, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

:::That's my kind of article. I'm always astonished when I see reviewers ask for hauntings to be taken out. Bung 'em in, I say! Perhaps we could collaborate on a witch trial one day? There's also the plague in Manchester which I'm toying with, but then ] deserves her shot at FA .... so much to do. lol: --] ] 22:08, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

::::I agree about the hauntings, including them is an exercise in neutrality but it should be done; I half expected more people to complain about the ] article for mentioning them. A witch trial would be very interesting! It was good to watch the Pendle witch trials article develop. So much to do? I know the feeling, I'm eyeing up a list of castles in Cheshire for ] based on ], plus Wigan needs work, and so does Salford... ] (]) 22:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

::I would support your choice, Malleus. ] (]) 22:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Tain't my choice, it's Ealdgyth's choice. But I do think she'd be foolish not to go with my brilliant suggestion. :lol: --] ] 22:57, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
::::COUGH "alt nom" COUGH. ] (]) 23:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
:::: Hey! I went with Malleus' suggestion! (laughs). Gotta keep the copyeditor happy! ] - ] 23:06, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::You'd have been in ''so'' much trouble if you hadn't. ;-) Good luck with the DYK. --] ] 23:10, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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I think I got all of it. (I hate writing about intellectuals... give me bad boy bishops any day!) ] - ] 02:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

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