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| ] This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between <span class="mw-formatted-date" title="2018-10-02">2 October 2018</span> and <span class="mw-formatted-date" title="2018-12-15">15 December 2018</span>. Further details are available ]. Student editor(s): ]. | |||
| Does that Wellstone! man have anything to do with anything? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]){{#if:11:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)| 11:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
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| :Uh, no. That was inserted by a long-term vandal. 16:53, 11 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Etymology == | ||
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| The inscriptions in Linear B '' A-pa-i-ti-jo'' and ''Pa-i-to'' probably relate "Hephaistos" with "Phaistos". If someone has a reliable reference he can add it. (In Greek the relation is obvious). ] 15:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :*Hephaestus appears in the '']'' episode "Hawk and Dove"; he is voiced by ]. In the episode, Hephaestus builds the Annihilator, a heavy-armored ] which is fueled by rage. He sells it to Ares, who uses it to start a ] in a ] country. | |||
| : '''Ήφαιστος vs. Hephaestus'''. Compared with the original Greek spelling/sound, it seems the English/Latin version has an additional sound of ''h'' at the beginning. Could anyone explain this ''h'' sound? --] (]) 19:53, 22 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :*Hephaestus is mentioned in the ] '']'' in the ] titled "Number 547: Mythology". | |||
| ::The "classical" Greek alphabet doesn't have a letter "h" but ancient Greek had the consonant. The "h" in heuristic, Hellenic, Helen, hydration, hyperbole and many more has indeed come down to us from the Greek roots. Our article ] goes into detail. If these things interest you, you'll also find there that our pronounciation of the "ph" in Hephaestus as a sort of "f" is very different from the old Greek pronunciation. ] (]) 20:39, 22 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::@ ]: Just to clarify, the the "h" sound is indicated by the ] at the beginning of the Greek word. ] (]) 14:32, 7 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ==Eros or Harmonia?== | |||
| :*In the computer game '']'', there is a unique foe guarding the "Hellforge" located in the River of Flame, which the character must defeat in order to progress with a side-quest. The demon is named ], which has possible relevance to the God Hephaestus. | |||
| I've read before, that although most Greek myths say that Aphrodite & Hephaestus' marriage produced no children, in a few versions either Eros (as noted in the article) or ] was the child of Hephaestus.--] (]) 03:55, 19 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == References to "Vulcan", particularly in captions == | |||
| :*In the anime '']'' one of Zudomon's attacks was called Vulcan's Hammer. | |||
| These references seem confusing, Vulcan's relation to Hephaestus could use an explanation, maybe in a footnote? | |||
| It all seemed too trivial. Still, I'm aware that I'm less than averagely bewitched by the charms of ''anime'', etc. -- ] 22:32, 7 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ] (]) 14:36, 26 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :Aye, the point that seems to pass over many heads is that a little acquaintance with ''Hephaestus'' may explain some characters and details in these market-driven productions, and so a link is relevant there, but that the converse is not true. It depends partly in understanding ''converse'', I suppose. --] 10:00, 8 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:That's described in the second sentence of the article and in the infobox. ] (]) 14:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
| ::Found it, thanks. ] (]) 13:27, 16 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
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== New image == | ||
| I saw the epsoid of hawk and dove i must of missed it. | |||
| Hi I think the infobox should have a new image. First of all, the current image isn't ancient. Second of all, I can barely see his face because of it's positioning. I think that ] would work better because it's positioned better and it's ancient. ] (]) 23:14, 28 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
| BUNNY! <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:17, 16 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Why do you say Thorvaldsen's statue is ancient? ] (]) 00:29, 29 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
| That has nothing to do with the Hephaestus discussion. ]<font color="1E90FF">{♦}</font> <sup>]</sup> 19:31, 15 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::I thought it was. It's a mistake on my part. ] (]) 00:32, 29 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == Concern regarding portrait == | |||
| While it is acknowledged that many forms of artwork regarding this period of history do not have the prohibition on nudity, there may be a reasoning for replacing the portrait due to potential issues regarding age appropriateness. I leave it up to the ] and ] groups to make the final call on this as I am a newly "born" wikipedian | |||
| ] 05:06, 13 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
| idc <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == Article Flow == | |||
| Sorry if I'm stepping on toes, but I just wanted to point out that the paragraph about Hephaestus getting revenge against Hera is repeated, once in the introduction and once about his birth. I thought that to be unnecessary. | |||
| Also, the introduction section holds other unnecessary information, such as his attempted rape of Athena. A double spacing makes me assume that this may have been moved from another section of the article. | |||
| Whilst not confidant enough to alter these myself, I thought I would bring it to the attention of someone who is. Thank you. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| ==Unprotected!== | |||
| Unprotected! an invitation for vandalism to resume, no doubt.--] (]) 19:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == CORRECTION!! == | |||
| Hephaestus is actually only the god of fire. The only evidence to prove he is also god of smithing and the forge is speculation from Homer's poems The Iliad and The Odyssey, which tell the story of Troy. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| Not exactly. In a book I've read, it does say Hephaestus '''is''' the God of Fire ''and'' Blacksmith. It really depends on what version of the myth you read or have heard. ]<font color="1E90FF">{♦}</font> <sup>]</sup> 19:33, 15 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==Someone really likes the word "lame"...== | |||
| This is an excerpt from the article: | |||
| ''Hephaestus was reported in myth as cholōs, '''"lame"''', crippled, halting (ēpedanos) misshapen, and '''"lame"''' or sometimes '''"lame"'''.'' | |||
| Is it really necessary to repeat the word 3 times? And is it just a repetition, or did someone think it would be funny to replace other adjectives with "lame"?] (]) 21:43, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| lol. No, it isn't necessary. Two of them should be removed. ]<font color="1E90FF">{♦}</font> <sup>]</sup> 19:35, 15 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| =="Hephacules"== | |||
| "''He had a follower who named himself ] after him.''" This insertion, made 22:28, 21 February 2007 by an anonymous passer-by, lasted until today. I have eliminated it. Since this article is not given any protection, I shall probably make up for the half-hour I've just spent tracking down this joker by reverting all the anon. IP edits I notice at this article, without wasting my time checking them. --] (]) 18:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==His name== | |||
| If he was Hēphaistos in Greek and Vulcan in Latin, mightn't it be better to retitle the article Hēphaistos or Hephaistos? -- ] (]) | |||
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Etymology
The inscriptions in Linear B A-pa-i-ti-jo and Pa-i-to probably relate "Hephaistos" with "Phaistos". If someone has a reliable reference he can add it. (In Greek the relation is obvious). Jestmoon(talk) 15:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ήφαιστος vs. Hephaestus. Compared with the original Greek spelling/sound, it seems the English/Latin version has an additional sound of h at the beginning. Could anyone explain this h sound? --Roland (talk) 19:53, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- The "classical" Greek alphabet doesn't have a letter "h" but ancient Greek had the consonant. The "h" in heuristic, Hellenic, Helen, hydration, hyperbole and many more has indeed come down to us from the Greek roots. Our article Ancient Greek phonology goes into detail. If these things interest you, you'll also find there that our pronounciation of the "ph" in Hephaestus as a sort of "f" is very different from the old Greek pronunciation. NebY (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- @ Roland: Just to clarify, the the "h" sound is indicated by the comma-like symbol at the beginning of the Greek word. Moonraker12 (talk) 14:32, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Eros or Harmonia?
I've read before, that although most Greek myths say that Aphrodite & Hephaestus' marriage produced no children, in a few versions either Eros (as noted in the article) or Harmonia was the child of Hephaestus.--Splashen (talk) 03:55, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
References to "Vulcan", particularly in captions
These references seem confusing, Vulcan's relation to Hephaestus could use an explanation, maybe in a footnote?
22jcampb (talk) 14:36, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
- That's described in the second sentence of the article and in the infobox. NebY (talk) 14:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
- Found it, thanks. 22jcampb (talk) 13:27, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
New image
Hi I think the infobox should have a new image. First of all, the current image isn't ancient. Second of all, I can barely see his face because of it's positioning. I think that File:Vulcan by Bertel Thorvaldsen.jpg would work better because it's positioned better and it's ancient. Ghost_Cacus (talk) 23:14, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Why do you say Thorvaldsen's statue is ancient? NebY (talk) 00:29, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- I thought it was. It's a mistake on my part. Ghost_Cacus (talk) 00:32, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
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