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looks kind of fishy and Weirdward has virtually no history, but seems to know about previous discussions and who people are, which seems to indicate to me that he's either vandalising or is a sockpuppet. Tweety21's page (which was the subject of the diff) says that the user requested to be blanked, but then kept coming back with sockpuppets and that you should be contacted? I don't know if you wanted to do anything with any of this, but I thought I'd let you know. ] (]) 18:36, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
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You voted a finding against me. I wouldn't mind that if there was substance and if it was in the context of an action against me, but why was it placed in a case where I have not contributed to the topic for more than a year? (And only twice in my entire history on Misplaced Pages.) ] (]) 07:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


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:It is simply not so that you have only made two edits within the Scientology topic. You have often edited your own BLP which falls within scope as well as other biographies, including the Barbara Schwarz attack page. You have also contributed to discussions within the topic. In, for example, the Barbara Schwarz deletion discussion, to which you contributed considerably, you raised your off-wiki problems with the subject as partial justification for keeping the article. This exemplifies the committee's concerns about the blurring of off- and on-wiki roles and the capacity this has for inflaming on-wiki disputes. &nbsp;] <sup>]</sup> 10:53, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
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How you been FloNight? Let's have girl chat. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 21:58, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:Hi :-) I've been having a nice holiday weekend. How are you? ]] 22:46, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
::I am ok. R, the kids, and I have a quiet life. We made special food for this weekend. R, you know, sometimes he pee baa (crazy) but he very good man. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 22:53, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Ah, FloNight, that picture, Spring in Kentucky, you take that? It is very good picture. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 22:54, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
::::We (my husband and myself) took that photo last May at a Japanese Friendship Garden near our house. ]. We enjoying taking pictures and uploading them to Misplaced Pages for articles. I stay behind on writing articles for the photos since I have loads of work to do for ArbCom.


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::::This weekend we went to ] and we took photos of a house that was used as part of the ]. So far, I have one good source of information about the house. When I find a few more then I'll start an article about it. What are you writing about lately? ]] 16:43, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


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Hi Flo, hope you and the family are doing well. I just wanted to touch base a bit, and perhaps you're already aware of some of this. On the ] issue, Bibliomatic (sp), has stepped-up and evaluated consensus, and then he/she followed up and created a proposal for a guideline. There's been an effort here and there on it, nothing major, but at least now we have something to work with. I did have my road trip too. On the way down (Pittsburgh PA area to Birmingham AL) we took the 79 South route through VA, rather then down 65: much rain .. lol. Anyway, on the way back, we cut over to Knoxville, and came up into Kentucky (I just love the beauty of your state). While we didn't stop and spend much time at any of the horse farms (apologies if that's not the proper term), we did travel some very beautiful land. Basically we went across 64, but time constraints reduced my photography wishes greatly. I got a couple shots here and there - and I'd like to stitch together some panorama views in the near future - suffice to say, I love the beauty of your state. I definitely appreciate you giving me feedback on both the RIP issues, as well as the personal trip suggestions. Thanks again. — <small><span style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 15:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
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If my only edit to an article is to remove a ] action of a disruptive editor (, on a featured article), does that make me involved? The Committee has gotten so strict on this, I feel the need to ask. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
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Hi Flo, I read that you have an interest in BLP issues. I wonder if you would have time to look at ]? There is a pitch battle going on between COI editors (who on the whole seem to be handling it all quite reasonably) and quite negative inclusionists by their own admission (who are bordering on disruption). Looking for another NPV here, I don't want to see an article whitewash, but I am concerned about violations of BLP and the apparent disregard of it in some cases. Cheers, ] (]) 07:44, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


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In the "Tang Dynasty" ArbCom case, the "locus of dispute" factfinding should be rejected as written.


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In these pivotal diffs, ] cannot ''feign'' to have misunderstood my writing. These are plainly Coren's paraphrased words; and yet, this modest effort to frame ''collaborative editing'' issues was immediately converted into a contrived hostile encounter. This destructive pattern is reflected ''ad nauseam'' on the evidence and workshop pages. Despite the cumulative attacks, the edit history confirms my participation focused on issues, but this outcome tells me clearly that I was wrong to take the high road.
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Hello, FloNight. I bring in with some pointer for correction. When you deleted "two diffs", you said "removed one". I'm not sure why you removed the ]. If you want to say about "Teeninvestor's canvassing" to uninvolved editor, that may be a good example. If you concern about Blp user (''..part of the cancer that's destroying Misplaced Pages.''), Tenmei's attack page is in the same category (toxic-edit warrior blah blah). And Tenmei "thankfully" deleted his enemy list "today", so that diffs need to be corrected as well with this more correct diffs.
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Hi, FloNight. I just want to know(since the case will be speedily closed now) who will be Tenmei's mentor? ] (]) 13:32, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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::Will the mentor have any special powers over Tenmei? Because I think that if the mentor doesn't have much power, it will be pretty helpless.] (]) 16:01, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
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Just saw your vote here . The question is: what, in your view, means "related to this topic area"? Since I have never taken admin action on matters pertaining directly to the naming issue itself (other than dealing with socks and vandalism), how far do you take the "related"? Have you seen evidence that my stance on the Macedonia naming issue has ever tainted the trustworthiness of my admin work in other Balkan- or Greece-related areas? As I said to Jayvdb earlier today, I'm open to constructive suggestions on where I should draw the line, and in any case, I've been quite conservative in my use of tools for the last year at least. Have you looked into what I actually do in terms of tool use, and what my relation is with the editors involved? I mean, it's not as if any significant amount of evidence of such activity was ever presented at the Arbcom case. ] ] 12:15, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
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Women in Red January 2025

Women in Red | January 2025, Vol 11, Issue 1, Nos 324, 326, 327, 328, 329


Online events:

Announcements from other communities

Tip of the month:

  • Celebrate WiR's 20% achievement by adding {{User:ForsythiaJo/20%Userbox}} to your user page.

Other ways to participate:

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--Lajmmoore (talk 17:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Administrators' newsletter – January 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

added Sennecaster
readded
removed

CheckUser changes

added
readded Worm That Turned
removed Ferret

Oversight changes

added
readded Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC)