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== Nom.tam.fits deletion ==
==WikiProject Films June 2009 Newsletter==
The ''']''' of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! ] (] • ]) 08:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


Hi CactusWriter. A few days ago you deleted my draft article on Nom.tam.fits citing copyright violations, which were first noted by {{u|Tavantius}} a few hours before your deletion. I would like to clarify that the copyright violation was entirely accidental, and that it has been promptly eliminated withing hours of it having been noted, but not in time before you deleted the draft article.
== Susan Hutchison ==


The Misplaced Pages article was never based on the offending page (https://nom-tam-fits.github.io/nom-tam-fits/index.html). In fact it was the other way around. The Misplaced Pages draft article came first, but because it was still not published after 6 months, I have decided to make the content partly available online in the interim, not realizing that the maven plugin that produced the page placed an unintended copyright at the bottom of the page also automatically.
I made the Susan Hutchison page and am trying to get rid of the copyright violation, I got the two organizations to email wikipedia granting permission to use the text, yet it is still there, How can I get rid of it? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hi, Spamd. Reading ] will give you a brief overview for getting permission to use the copyrighted text. If the organization sent permission to use their text, it doesn't appear to have been received by Misplaced Pages ]. An administrator would have posted the OTRS permission on the article talk page showing that permission had been mailed. Because it wasn't there, I went ahead and removed the problematic portions and briefly rewrote the introduction. In truth, the easiest method for you to deal with copyrighted text is to rewrite the information from scratch (Simply use your own words without the benefit of looking at the original text. Then add citations for the source). If you have further problems, feel free to ask. Your efforts in dealing with this are appreciated. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 21:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


Since then the accidental copyright statement has been removed from the offending page. In fact, I have also removed the content that came from the draft Misplaced Pages article entirely.
== input requested ==


So there is no copyright violation, as there never should have been one, bar a stupid mistake on my part. The draft Misplaced Pages article is the original (and once again the only) compiled source for the information it contains. I am asking your help to restore it.
I an considering going live with ]. I'm feeling pretty good about 10 hours of work. Please take a look and advise of any concerns. Thank you, ] (]) 07:45, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:Good eyes. Found a better ref in the ] that more fully supports the section. Very much appreciate your assist!] (]) 18:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


My undeletion request has been denied on account that you have to authorize (and perhaps request) the undeletion. So I respectfully ask you to do what you can to reinstate the draft Nom.tam.fits article so it can continue to be reviewed and hopefully published eventually. I have spent around 100 hours so far crafting that article, and responding to comments from multiple editors. I would like to see it through. Thank you, in advance.
==Orphaned non-free media (File:Babettesfeastphoto.gif)==
] (]) 19:09, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
] Thanks for uploading ''']'''. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Misplaced Pages under a ]. However, it is currently ], meaning that it is not used in any articles on Misplaced Pages. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. ] if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Misplaced Pages (see ]).


:Hi, {{ping|Attipaci}}. It is correct that ] was deleted because the text in the article appeared on the GitHub site without a copyright license that is compatible with Misplaced Pages. (Note that while the software is released into the public domain, the documentation is not unless specified. That is why GitHub directs users to for the non-software.) As I'm sure you can understand, Misplaced Pages takes copyright violations very seriously -- it can place the entire project under legal jeopardy -- therefore any noted instances of copyright violation are required to be removed quickly.
If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "]" link (it is located at the very top of any Misplaced Pages page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any '''articles''' will be deleted after seven days, as described on ]. Thank you.<!-- Template:Orphaned --> ] (]) 06:49, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:I'm deleting this old screen shot as unnecessary for film article.<span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 07:00, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


:The easiest solution is to grant Misplaced Pages permission to copy material already online. The instructions can be found at ]. There are two methods: the first is to place a statement on each or any website page with releases to Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 4.0 International License and the GNU Free Documentation License. (An example of a statement is given.) The second is to send an email to Wikimedia.org with a Declaration of Consent as shown at ].
==St. Patrick's School, Liberia==
Thank you for your help. As I explained to the bot father, I copied the material from another (unflagged) Misplaced Pages article, not from outside material. I never looked at the outside material; particularly afterward when I was afraid I would unconsciously mimic it, there being so few facts in the article anyway. I have 20,000 edits and 30 articles and am well aware of Misplaced Pages's policy on copyright violations. Thanks for your assistance in cleaning up this article. ] (]) 12:44, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:Since I am currently talkstalking CactusWriter, I have left a note clarifying licensing issues in copying from one article to another at your talk page. --] <sup>]</sup> 12:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


:Please let me know which method you've implemented and I will restore the page. Best. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 22:10, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
::Just a question, why hasn't the text at the temporary subpage been used or the subpage been deleted? (]) ] (]) 13:14, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::Hi @], thanks for your response and suggestion. I have added the statement to the top of https://nom-tam-fits.github.io/nom-tam-fits/index.html releasing its text into public domain. Let me know if there is anything else you need before you can restore the page. Thanks, ] (]) 13:26, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Okay, Attipaci. Much appreciated. I have removed the copyright violation template from ] and made a comment on the talk page. Please note that although the text on the webpage can be copied freely now, that text may not be appropriate for an encyclopedic article. The article will still need to pass the Misplaced Pages criteria for ], ] and/or ]. Good luck with your editing. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 15:07, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks @]! The notability issue remains an open one. I would like to note that the ] article applies specifically to apps and programs only, and ] is neither of those, and so the essay does not offer relevant guidance.
::::There seems to be no specific guideline for establishing notability for software libraries, which are neither apps or programs on their own, rather they are the building blocks thereof. Maybe that is just an oversight in the essay. If so, the software notability essay should be updated with a consensus on what makes software libraries notable, beyonf apps and programs.
::::I do think that one aspect of notability that is specific to software libraries is that if a software library is used by one or more apps/programs, which themselves are notable, then the library itself should be considered notable by extension, since it constitutes an essential part of the notable apps/programs, which would not exist in their form without the libraries it build upon... For example, if Misplaced Pages has an article on "Apple Pie", which uses apples as their essential ingredient, then it's natural that you should have an article on "Apple (fruit)" also.
::::In the above sense ] is notable as it constitutes an essential part of several apps/programs, which themselves were deemed notable enough to have Misplaced Pages entries.
::::Just a thought. Maybe you can forward it to a relevant forum, or else point me to one where this can be discussed in a meaningful way... ] (]) 09:26, 27 October 2024 (UTC)


== Coat of arms (heraldy crown) ==
:::Whoops -- I had read through the talk pages, but didn't even notice that a temporary page had been created. Thanks for pointing that out to me. MLauba and Student7, you both did a much better rewrite than I did, so I'm going to delete the old version and replace it with your temp version. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 14:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Those temporary pages used to be easier to see before Stifle created the "don't delete this" header (which is useful enough to be worth the hassle, since before that header those pages were sometimes speedily deleted by admins who didn't understand why they were there). I've missed a few myself, so I usually try to remember to click on it even if I don't think the blue link is blue enough to suggest it's been filled out. :) --] <sup>]</sup> 10:44, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Okay. Good advice. I'll try to get in the habit of clicking that link as a part of the process. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 11:01, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::{{conflict}}Well, on the copyvio template, it appears blue even when empty as soon as I place the template, at least in my two browsers of choice, so it is indeed darn easy to miss. Oh, and thanks for the kind words, CW :) ] (]) 11:03, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::It gets bluer when filled out. Or bolder. Compare ] and ]. It can be easy to miss, though, so I check anyway. :) --] <sup>]</sup> 11:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Ow, my eyes. You are right - there is a difference between the Really Blue and Really-Really-I'm-Not-Kidding-It-Got-Bolder Blue. But I think it's better for me just to click the link without trying to figure out which blue it is. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 15:50, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Wow! I've just noticed another difference, too! :O There's an arrow when there isn't a page; there's no arrow when there is. ''That's'' probably the easiest to detect difference! --] <sup>]</sup> 16:18, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I don't see any difference :( and I know I'm not supposed to be colour blind... Perhaps drinking will help? ] (]) 16:40, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Ah, now the arrow I can see. What is this -- one of those "find five differences" puzzles? And in these puzzle games, drinking probably couldn't hurt. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 18:56, 31 July 2009 (UTC)


Hi CactusWriter. I've already mentioned issues with the article/editor to {{u|Drmies}}, but the editor creating ] has just re-created it again following your most recent deletion. That's the third time it'd been deleted today, I think, and it's also been moved to draft space. Anything you can do? I can tag for speedy deletion, again, but I think they'll just re-create it. They're not responding on their talk page. Cheers, ]<sup>]</sup> 23:45, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
==Hahn==
:Hi Bastun, I've deleted the article (again) and given the user a short block. Perhaps this will prod them to begin talking rather than continue with disruptive edits. Good luck. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 23:50, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Cactus Writer..you seem to be taking a real interest in certain issues
::Thanks! Cheers, ]<sup>]</sup> 23:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


== Reason ==
For the record, Hahn has never worked for Freedom Magazine..she is a freelance writer.
When the conversation about an article is going on, the reason to delete that article in a hurry??--] (]) 17:42, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Shall we conclude based on your logic that you work for Misplaced Pages?
Secondly, the story she wrote exposed the connection between mind control experiments and the Orphans.
The story never claimed to expose the case of the Orphans..try reading for a change
What it exposed was the connection--previously unknown--between the Orphans and mind control experiments
done in the 1950s and 1960s. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Because of the rules concerning ] -- especially on biographies of living people -- adding information to an article requires citing them with a ]. The article's only source states that Hahn is a "journalist with Brabant Newspapers." If you have a reference which expands on her being a freelance journalist, please add it, otherwise the information cannot be used. Additionally, as I wrote on the talk page, the text that was removed said:


::My question has not yet been answered. Why??? ---] (]) 00:44, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:''It was Christine who broke the story of Duplessis Orphans scandal by publishing it in Freedom magazine, a Church of Scientology publication. Later on, stories about the huge abuse and fraud case appeared in Canada TV Newsand other major news outlets, such as the New York Times.''


:This was a clear misstatement since the major news stories (like this ) and the NY Times article appeared years previous to Hahn's. Again, it was requested that the statement be sourced or removed. It remained unsourced and was finally removed. If you have references for the above statement, please add them. If you wish to discuss this further, I suggest that it be continued on the article talk page, so that other interested editors might weigh in. (By the way, you may not have realized it, but it is improper to blank or delete other editors comments from the article talk pages -- that is why I reverted your edits there.) <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 15:47, 30 July 2009 (UTC) :Hello, Gowtham Sampath. I will assume your question concerns the article ]. It was speedy deleted per ] as an unambiguous copyright infringement of a . This is a legal issue for Misplaced Pages. For legal reasons, text or images that are currently copyrighted elsewhere must be removed immediately. I see that you have recreated the article without the copyrighted text. Please remember that it is always best practice to create text from scratch rather than copy-pasting from outside sources. If you have further questions, please ask. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 01:48, 23 January 2024 (UTC)


== Contents of a deleted article ==
::http://www.freedommag.org/english/canada/vol004i1/page12.htm
::Grant received for research from the Fund for Investigative Journalism in Washington DC which gives grants to FREELANCE WRITERS.
::Now, please remove that statement as it is NOT accurate or true. Hahn has never been employed by Freedom Magazine and has submitted stories as a freelancer. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Last month, you ] per G3. The Guyana Campaign under ] was , which makes me wonder what exactly the hoax article stated. Any clarity here would be much appreciated. - ] (]) 16:42, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
::Here is your evidence.
:Hi, Mebigrouxboy. That draft was deleted multiple times (both in draft space and main space) when editors found that "no evidence that this existed, let alone that the things written here are true or verifiable." Please note that the article you link to in Spanish Misplaced Pages was a military campaign in 1816-1817. The hoax article was an alleged campaign in 1714. Let me know if you need further clarification. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 22:08, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
::It seems like it had something to do with Dutch history, given the pages that link to it. Is that accurate? - ] (]) 22:41, 18 March 2024 (UTC)


:::Yes. It described a confrontation between Portuguese, Dutch and French armies. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 22:49, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
::http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol37I1/page04.htm
::::Thanks for the help! - ] (]) 03:56, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
::Only after the truth about the Duplessis Orphans began to emerge in the 1990s did Clarina share her story with her husband and, ultimately, with Freedom.


::If the story was claiming that Freedom unearthed the Orphans story, why would it make reference to the truth emerging about the Duplessis Orphans in the 1990s?
::Thus, what you have stated here is incorrect and requires correction. You are referencing an inaccurate description of the work posted by a radio host.
::If you want to post information about this story, reference the story please and not a radio host's inaccurate description of it.


== Why did you delete https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia/Ruda_Real? ==
::The story provides plenty of documentation/evidence on what was uncovered, when and by whom.
Your explanation at the page didn’t make any sense. If you don’t think this constitutes a hoax please let MfD decide, don’t perform an illegitimate speedy deletion. ] (]) 08:49, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:Dronebogus, it probably would have been helpful if I had linked to the AN page. My larger explanation was given at ] where a request was made to delete the unused page. The page had been removed from ] for more than a year-and-a-half (since October 2022) without any controversy and remained unlinked to anywhere on WP other than talk pages. It was deleted again -- as it originally had been per AFD consensus. The current re-deletion is not illegitimate. Can you provide a further reason for keeping this unused page? <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 20:37, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::I thought it was kind of up in the air whether Ruda Real was a real person. There’s a good possibility that if real (pun not intended) his ''music career'' was a hoax. Regardless as long as there was a legitimate reason to delete it I don’t care. ] (]) 02:32, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:::The real name for "Ruda Real," given on that page along with the birthdate, death date and places of birth and death were exact matches for a person listed in public government records including the United States Social Security Administration. The music career part may or may not have been real but the actual person was real with a real family. The article should either have been speedy deleted originally as non-notable or vandalism. In either case, it remained a violation of our ] policy. Thanks for your input. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 15:29, 24 March 2024 (UTC)


== Deletion review for ] ==
::Why the sudden interest in a story published in 2005? Seems odd. Visit the Freedom Magazine website, search for The Dark Mystery of the Duplessis Orphans <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
An editor has asked for ] of ]. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.<!-- Template:DRV notice --> ] ] 23:28, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks, Pppery. I've replied. And as I've always noted at the top of this talk page -- I have no issue with any administrator reversing my decisions. Cheers.<span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 17:01, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
::{{done}} Page restored and new Mfd created. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 14:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


== Regarding RD1 ==
:::I think a reference to The Fund for Investigative Journalism would be a great addition to Hahn's bio. ( is actually a clearer mention). Although, unfortunately, Hahn is not mentioned as a recipient at the and that the fund withdrew her grant in 2001 while she worked at ]. The real problem here is that this is supposed to be a biographical article about Hahn and yet there are almost no independent references for her. A few bi-lines and a brief interview by a fringe (and, as you say, inaccurate) radio journalist do not provide much substance for a ] article. If you can provide some good references which describe Hahn's career and background, than that would be helpful. At the moment, there doesn't appear to be enough ] for an article about her.<span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 07:47, 31 July 2009 (UTC)


Hi CactusWriter, just a friendly reminder to remove {{tl|copyvio-revdel}} from a page once you clean the history, since the template populates ]. Thanks for helping to reduce the backlog. <sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 00:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
==WikiProject Films July 2009 Newsletter==
:Whoops! Thanks for the reminder. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 01:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
The ''']''' of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! ] (] • ]) 00:45, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


== BEE ==


== Signature ==
Can you please userfy Buereau of Energy Efficiency for me? I created that article, and I would like to re-create it and this I would like to add some details and make sure it does NOT violate any policies. --] (]) 10:33, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:Okay. The article can now be found at ]. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 10:54, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


Just FYI, your new signature links to ], which doesn't exist as a page. ] (] &#124; ]) 21:56, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks a lot. :D Cheers... --] (]) 14:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:Been futzing around with my sig -- thanks for the heads-up. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 01:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


==HH Holmes== ==AFDs==
Hello, CactusWriter,
Thanks! You saved me a rental. :D --] <sup>]</sup> 17:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, come on now... I figured you were looking forward to learning all about America's first serial killer. That video was a wonderful accompaniment to my morning yogurt and muesli. (Meh, okay... who am I kidding? You didn't miss anything.) <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 17:14, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::LOL! I've actually read a book about the guy some time back. But, no, I'd rather not see it. :) It was next on my queue to be mailed, and I removed it posthaste! --] <sup>]</sup> 17:32, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


Thank you for your help closing AFD deletion discussions today. We always need more admins rotating in to spend some time assessing these discussions. However, please come familiar with ] and use it to close discussions. It's what all other closers and relisters use and it's a really simple-to-use editing tool. I know you are not using it now because you closed ] and the result was 22 broken redirect pages along with their talk pages. I needed to delete them all individually.
== Dave Fry ==


If you close an AFD with XFDcloser, then this awesome tool will not only delete the article, its talk page and all redirects to the deleted article (and their talk pages) but it will also remove any red links that are left over from the deletion of the article. It's really standard practice and it will make the process so much easier for you than handling each AFD discussion closure yourself, manually. Just a suggestion that might save you some time and worry. Thanks again for your help. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 21:50, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Could you please give me some examples of what seems to be biased please? I would like to get the banner removed as soon as possible. Thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hello, Liz. As can be seen on my contributions, I had already used XFDcloser on all my other AFD closes today. And you're right, it certainly does simplify the process -- not like the old days of tedious manual closes. Sorry about any broken redirects. Appreciate your help. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 22:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


:The copyright violation banner cannot be removed until permission to use the text has been received at ]. This can take a few days to process -- that is why we allow 7+1 days for processing -- so please be patient. On the other hand, as is mentioned on your talk page, the text can also be released by simply changing the copyright information on the website with a note that states that re-use is permitted ''''under the ] (GFDL), versions 1.3 or later and ] (CC-BY-SA), versions 3.0 or later'', under ''], versions 3.0 or later'', or that the material is ''released into the public domain''. If we don't have permission in time, the article will be deleted. However, don't worry because the article can and will be restored if or when the permsission arrives.


:Concerning sentences in the article with are not encyclopedic: here are just a few examples.


== Brittani Louise Taylor - University ==
:''Dave’s warm and engaging stage patter, audience participation and obvious joy of performing that makes for an enjoyable evening, a veritable folk festival unto itself''


I am so sorry… that was such a bonehead mistake. Thank you for fixing it! ] (]) 22:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
:''Dave has excited and energized whole schools with his songwriting residencies''


{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
:''Dave is a wonderful entertainer of the preschool set''
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | ]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Special Barnstar'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For taking the time to go through the sources and find my giant goof on the ] article. ] (]) 23:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
|}
:Thanks. No worries. It is a common mistake and easy enough to fix. Cheers! <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 15:14, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


==]==
:''Dave's friendly introduction to the joys of acoustic guitar... continues to encourage beginning guitarists all over.''
Just a heads up, this AfD was started by a now-blocked sock, so you may want to reconsider the close – maybe a relist while striking their comments? Cheers, ] ]] 00:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


:I just came to post about the same AFD. I was looking at some recent AFDs created by a sockpuppet and came across this one. I'm not sure how you came to a Delete decision here. It doesn't seem to be the consensus point of view of the participants. Thanks for any explanation you can offer. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 05:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
:These all contain ] wording and come across as ] copy. Equally important is that the article contains no inline citations which substantiate the text. This is a typical problem of articles which are created by the individuals themselves or family members -- and it is why WP strongly discourages editors from creating articles about themselves, family or friends. The guidelines for ] can provide you some help on how to improve the article. Cheers. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 08:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


::Yes, that one required some careful reading of the participants' discussion points since a couple of them argued against their own "keep"s. The nominator (who was not identified as a sock at close) wanted to delete based on NCORP. Oaktree voted! delete based on it being a PR piece without RS. Teratix voted! keep feeling two sources were RS (although one was shown to be a blog) but they also wanted a complete rewrite (which might be considered a TNT vote!) The next two, Chekidalum and X, said the article passed NCORP. However, X also suggested the article should never have been put in mainspace.(Essentially a draftify or TNT vote!) HighKing wrote Keep but then argued that the article failed NCORP and needed to be deleted unless completely rewritten as a different topic. IMO, the majority consensus based on editors' arguments was the article should be removed for failing NCORP and/or needing a complete rewrite. I probably should have added a line about welcoming draftify requests from anyone.
== Locking Susan Hutchison ==


::It was definitely an "interpretive" decision based on the discussion points -- and knowing their was no chance to relist for further discussion. I have no problem if either of you wants to reverse my decision and re-open the AFD for a fourth relist or to even change my close. Just let me know. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 21:10, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
There have been several defamation attempts and counterfactual statements made on her page such as "She is also known locally by the nickname: "Princess Skunk Cabbage"." and "Upon the unsealing of her settled lawsuit, it was revealed that her demotion stemmed from fraudulently using sick days for a canoeing trip over the 4th of July" which were based on unchallenged and unsubstantiated rumors and were represented as fact on her wikipedia page. Though they were quickly changed by vigilant wikipedia users, we would like to request that this page is locked.
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:::Number 57, on re-assessment, I now see that the article clearly was recreated by a sock, too. (see ] about the original Vecteezy article creator) Account is blocked and reported to SPI. It should have been a ] from the get-go. Thanks for the heads-up on the sock. Do you think I should edit the AFD or redo the deletion to reflect that? <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 14:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
:I checked the edit history for ]. There have been very few edits in the past month and only two recent instances of blatant vandalism -- and both were reverted within one minute. The edits by the other IP are not vandalism but rather constitute a disagreement about content. For example, was a correct attempt to neutralize the language (following ] policy) as well as a poor attempt to add information about a dispute (biased and poorly sourced). But these are content disputes and should be discussed on the talk page. I notice there has been no attempt to engage in discussion and would encourage the editors to do so. At the moment, there is no reason for protecting the page -- but I'll keep it watch listed in case there are future problems.. (The ] helps explain when semi-protection might be considered.)


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:Now, as far as the content dispute goes: a quick google news search shows Hutchison's dismissal from KIRO, her subsequent lawsuit and the recent court order about sealed information are significant events. These are not rumors, but are reported in the large metropolitan newspapers , . Yet, her WP bio doesn't mention these events at all. ] should include both criticism and praise when it is significant. I think a couple of sentences about these events, written in a neutral, encyclopedic tone, should be added to this article. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 07:51, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


Hi you were listed as the contact for admin removal of my recently submitted page: Alley of the Dolls (band). This is my first time creating a new page so I apologize for any noob mistakes in creating but it seemed like I had answered every question brought up by other admins and contributors and supplied literally dozens of references and got nowhere. This is a band I have a lot of knowledge of, and I am really passionate about getting live on Wiki. They absolutely ARE real and established albeit not currently in the hot 100! Any advise you give to restart the page from a position that wont immediately have it pulled again would be appreciated. ] (]) 16:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
== William Coaker ==
:Hello, {{reply to|MusicForeverYours}}. I have recreated the deleted article at ] where it can be edited for improvement. I suggest that you review the comments made at ] by the discussion participants (they are all veteran WP editors). And review the links to the relevant guidelines. I saw that the issue revolved around a lack of ] by ]. Please note that blogs, PR sites, marketing websites and sales websites are invalid as reliable sources. That lack of good sourcing is usual for a new band before it becomes established. Valid reliable sources take time to emerge. Good luck with your editing. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 01:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Thank you very much for reverting the article to pre-copyvio status. I should become more familiar with the type of tools you use such that I can apply some corrective measures to the 4,700+ articles I monitor. Again thanks for your help, --] (]) 12:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:No problem. Thanks for keeping such a watchful eye. Or eyes. 4700+? You must be a ]. Cheers. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 12:49, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::Not so bad, all the articles I keep a keen eye on (whenever I can now mind ya) are of a common theme "Everything Newfoundland" :-) --] (]) 13:04, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow. 4700 Newfoundland articles! I didn't realize that. Cool. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 13:16, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


== User:Adamlampalo ==
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Re: ] at ], that was a new one! Kind of interesting, sometimes, figuring out how to handle these. :) --] <sup>]</sup> 13:33, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:Wow! You answered it already. I was just in the middle of researching a response to that one. Glad to see it was a lot easier than I thought. (I actually found a PD text that the contributor could use to fix it). Oh, well. Learn somethin' new... <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 13:38, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
::Nothing wrong with proposing that, too. I see that the contributor has recently usurped an account at the Spanish Misplaced Pages. :) --] <sup>]</sup> 13:44, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


] was created by a sock of an LTA, as recognized at ]. Therefore, it is eligible for G5 even if it was created before the sock itself was blocked. ] (]) 00:24, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
== Hello ==
:Okay. Here's the actual link that mentions the LTA at . It's probably helpful to point to that link in your edit summary when G5 tagging an account blocked for ] or vandalism, etc. Cheers! <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 16:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


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Hi CactusWriter! I just wanted to let you know that I reused your "close paraphrasing" message . I hope you don't mind. By the way, I noticed that you live in Denmark. Kan du prata svenska? :) ''''']]''''' 22:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:Great. Feel free to use it. ...Og, nej, det kan jeg ikke. Desværre. Jeg kan kun snakke Dansk -- med en utrolig voldsom Amerikansk udtale. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 04:48, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Hey CactusWriter. Sorry to bother you again, but should ], ], and ] be listed at ]? The author says it is a "bot error", but it seems to me like the text is copied from petersburgbreakthrough.org. Thanks, --''''']]''''' 14:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::No bother at all. I appreciate you asking. In this case, the bot wasn't wrong because the text was copied -- however, it appears to be in the public domain. The website shows the source as ''Source - A Compendium of the War of the Rebellion by Frederick H. Dyer''. It's a book published in 1908 which places it in the PD. Here's at the US Park Service. It appears most every Civil War website uses the same source. So its use is okay. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 15:08, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, I didn't see that. Thanks for taking a look! :) ''''']]''''' 15:22, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


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::Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I am sorry that you have had problems with this editor -- especially after you tried to help him. I see that he hasn't reverted any edits or touched your user page since your last message to him. I have had a discussion with him today. It is probable that it all stems from his rough introduction to article writing, which has been a series of problems and deletions - and appears to have left him frustrated. I'll keep a watch and take action if there is any return to uncivil behavior. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 19:18, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


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This is ridiculous. Nothing in those sources say that there is a branch of the Atrash clan in Egypt, he have made it up himself. The only thing it says is about Alia fleeing Syria with her children to Egypt, this is not a branch nor has it ever been a branch. These people are dead. --] (]) 20:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
* ] of the ] has commenced to improve and refine the proposals passed in ].
:From what I read, each of the sources appear to support the claims as written in the text of the article -- that some members of a Druze family named Atrash emigrated to Egypt. You will need to refute those sources. As I said in the edit summary, take the discussion to the talk page. I have no interest in the matter other that to see an end to the edit war. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 20:59, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::No they do not support the claims he have written, there is no branch, nothing in the sources say its a branch, one mother and her 3 children (all of them dead) is not a branch of a clan consisting of thousands of people. Listen, me and this guy have been arguing over the Asmahan article for almost half a year (thats right) we have been through 3 mediators (him not listening to the first two and going against what the third mediator/administrator has said on several issues) and rfcs, I'm not gonna take it to the talkpage cause he doesn't listen to common sense or other peoples opinions, only engaging in edit warring. I was the one that told him several times that he couldn't plagiarize in the Asmahan article and he didn't listen. So I would really appreciate it if you yourself do not want to get involved in this at the talkpage and mediate, that you do not interfere when I remove this false information from the article.--] (]) 21:13, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:::If you want to end the edit war you should lock the article at its original state at 2 August.--] (]) 21:35, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::::What I see is an ] which has been entirely unreferenced since its creation. Now that one editor is adding some sourced information for the article, your only contributions have been blanket deletions. If you actually want to improve the article -- than get some references. If you have problems with the language (like the word "branch") -- than reword it. Your blanket reversions are outside of ] and your persistence in doing so is ] (After your previous block, I would expect you to be familiar with this.) I am peripherally familiar with the long-running disputes and litany of complaints between you and the other editor. It appears to me that this continued petty bickering and POV-pushing from both sides is becoming disruptive and may require a topic ban for each of you. My advice is: learn to cooperate or find some other articles to edit. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 07:37, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Therese a difference between adding information to an article and adding text that is of absolutely no relevance to the article. You have a message here: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3AAtrash&diff=308857746&oldid=308843646 --] (]) 10:47, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::: I have replied on the article talk page. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ] ]</span> 11:15, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::you have reply: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3AAtrash&diff=308869340&oldid=308860945 --] (]) 12:29, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


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== Recreating TV3 Group (Baltics) ==

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TV3 Group (Baltics) is a pan-Baltic commercial broadcasting company owned by Providence Equity Partners through Bitė Group in Lithuania, previously a part of Viasat operations
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== Overrided AFD to deletion ==

Hi @],

From , it shows you deleted the page ] while it's undergoing a deletion discussion at ]. Please undelete the page for the discussion, which is still highly going to be deleted continue (it's a formal process though). If not, undelete the page and close the discussion when due or since consensus is met. Cheers! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 06:16, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
:Hi, SafariScribe. The AFD discussion can be closed early if the article has been concurrently deleted by Speedy Deletion -- it does not require the continued formal process. See ]. The article was tagged properly as ] because it had been previously deleted a few weeks ago per AFD discussion at ]. I concurred and deleted the article. The AFD is now closed. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 18:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
::That was what I needed. Thanks for the closing. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 18:09, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
:::No problem. For future reference, know that if you had wanted, you could have closed the AFD yourself (]) by just mentioning my name and the reason for speedy deletion in the result. Best <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 18:15, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hi CactusWriter

Just wanted to raise a query your close at the AFD here. The list was split out from the associated article (now at the title ]. As such, the prior status quo was that the two pages were in the same location, with the prose and list both in the same place. The split was never discussed and was clearly controversial and disputed, therefore the default status quo should have been to revert to it. There were many contributors to the above discussion who favoured reverting back to that prior status quo, and I think that re-merging should have been the outcome of the discussion. I don't see a strong consensus for retaining the split specifically, there was no consensus in participants on that question, and many editors were simply commenting on the notability of such a list overall rather than the merits of a split. Please could you revisit the close? Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 10:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
:Hi, Amakuru. I'll be happy to review my close of that discussion with you. First, the AFD was based solely on an alleged lack of notability of the list to exist on its own as a "stand-alone list" (]). Therefore the vast majority of the discussion addressed that issue -- with most participants "commenting on the notability" -- as one would expect for a discussion about notability. In the end, the argument "to keep" certainly outweighed the argument "to delete." As noted in my close, a merge was suggested by several of the participants, including two editors giving it as a second option after their "keep" positions. (And one editor oddly being indifferent as to either deleting or merging.) Which tipped the scales of the close on the side of keeping the stand-alone list. Only three editors spoke to merging "back," with one of them mentioning an undiscussed split. However, there was no evidence that it was "clearly controversial and disputed" as you suggest -- especially since the consensus showed that the editors were fine with a stand-alone list. If you believe the original split was controversial, and it needs to be discussed, is there any reason that you can't create a discussion for that purpose now? <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 01:07, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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== Please compare a new page to a G5-deleted page ==

Hello CactusWriter. ] was recently created. Previously, there were deletions of ], and one of them was yours -- a G5 (). The impetus to create pages on these topics on Misplaced Pages comes from a promotional scheme described in ]. The {{u|Мкдвики}} account was globally locked. An SPI had found ]. The new Trajkovski article is not identical to ] which is where the problem was detected at the time, but all of the references seem the same, from memory (a subset is included), the content is similar, and I think that this, together with evident ] (Saša/Sasha) passes the duck test. Sincerely —] 11:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
:Hello Alalch E. I agree. A comparison of the new article with the previous pages shows duplicated language. Because it was created by an SPA account, I've blocked the account on the ] behavior and filed an SPI report. After a clerk has reviewed and filed the report, the page can be speedy deleted as a G5. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 19:04, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

== Page on Musician Ben Seretan ==

Hello! I see that you deleted the page I began on musician Ben Seretan. I would like to republish that page and would very much appreciate your help with that. Ben Seretan is a notable musician and with greater edits, I believe this page to be beneficial to the indie rock and ambient music genres. Thanks! ] (]) 18:31, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

:Hello! Checking back in about this- thank you! ] (]) 14:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

::Hi, Thequietthunder. Per your request, the deleted page has been restored at ]. The article in its current form requires significant improvement to remove the promotional text. After you have improved the article, you can submit it for review by experienced editors. Please note that the page may still be deleted if it does not meet requirements for a Misplaced Pages page. Best. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 18:20, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Great, thank you! It has been edited for clarity and accuracy and it ready for review. ] (]) 16:01, 31 July 2024 (UTC)


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Hi, aren't all those external links promotional? --] (]) 10:31, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
:Hi, Randykitty. I wavered on that one. I agree with you that almost all of the links are crap and should be tossed -- but most are just links to indices and the text wasn't exclusively promotional. The author's shows they don't understand what "references" mean. The page is borderline, can't be moved without added RS and I expect I'll be G13-ing it in about 5 months. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 17:18, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

:* Looks like we're mostly on the same page then, I just have less patience... :-) Cheers, --] (]) 18:04, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

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== Dave Wellstone ==

<nowiki>You recently deleted an article that I spent extensive time on. I am more than happy to revise it, as I want to do it right, but I need the original source copy so I can move it to my Sandbox. Could you help me please? ~~~~</nowiki> ] (]) 16:41, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, SaraJKK. The restored article can be found now at ] so that it can be edited to remove any promotional or non-neutral text. I suggest that you read through Misplaced Pages fundamental policies on ] and ]. After you have finished editing, you can submit the article for review. Please note that if you have any personal connection with subject or their family or their work, than you must declare a conflict of interest (as outlined at ]). If you have questions, feel free to ask. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 17:08, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

== Recreating article on ICC judge Geoffrey A. Henderson ==

Hi – about 10 years ago you speedy-deleted an article on ]. This was about a year after the International Criminal Court judge by that name took office, so I’m assuming the article was about him. At that time he had just begun presiding over the prominent trial of ], so there may not yet have been much coverage of him. He is now the only former ICC judge without an article in the English Misplaced Pages (after I created a stub about the only other one, ]). The opinions issued in the Gbagbo case (including his) are the subject of scholarly analysis (e.g. ). It seems pretty clear to me that he’s notable – I’m just checking with you before I recreate the article because that’s what the deletion notice asks to do. ] (]) 12:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
:Hi, Joriki. I see no problem with you creating an article about an International Criminal Court judge named ]. The original article that was speedy deleted was only one sentence and there is no indication that it was the individual about whom you are writing. Cheers. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 20:00, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

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== ] ==

Hi CactusWriter, would you mind restoring this page to allow for continued discussion at ]? I've discussed this with another admin, {{u|Hey man im josh}}, at ], and we both think the AfD process should be given a chance. Thanks, &#8209;&#8209;] (] <b>·</b> ] <b>·</b> ]) 18:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

:I recognize you state that any admin can reverse an action you've made, but I feel better if it's mentioned/discussed with you first CactusWriter. I believe, based on the contributions to the article by someone other than the sock, that it probably should not have been G5'd to begin with. I think @] agreed with this given that they declined the initial G5 tag before the creator of the AfD restored the tag. Neveselbert put a decent amount of work into cleaning up the article, and I think they should be given a chance to continue to do so if they are want to. ] (]) 18:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

::Hi {{u|Neveselbert}} and {{u|Hey man im josh}}. The ] CSD criteria has always been a source of discussion and disagreement for multiple reasons. And in this case, it initially revolves around the definition of "substantial edits." Substantial edits are the significant addition of text or expansion of the article content. Before deletion, I checked through the entire list of edits. Nevelselbert did make a large quantity of edits, however, they consisted entirely of minor copyedits, markup, addition of spaces, links, etc. I found no "substantial" addition of content or substance. Even so, I might have had no problem with the article's recreation if you could point out a substantial edit. But in this case, there is a bigger problem. The article is most likely a copyright violation -- which the sock account has been cited for and has admitted to previously. I think Neveselbert recognized that possibility when to the article. The ] with examples of close paraphrasing. As I'm sure you're aware, copyvios cannot be restored. Therefore I would not be comfortable in restoring this article. I'm sorry that you put so much copyediting work into the deleted article, Neveselbert, but unfortunately it will need to be recreated from scratch. <span style="font-family: tahoma;"> — ]<sup>]</sup></span> 01:15, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

== Reply on ] ==

I replied on that page. Also, what did you do here: ]?

Perhaps RevDel'ing ]?

Thanks. ] <big>(]</big> · <small>])</small> 21:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
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At least the summary in the search engine made it seem like a bad article ("OverSimplified is a YouTube channel consisting of crash course videos on major and minor historical wars and revolutions. Some of the topics it covers are the American Revolution, World War I, World War II, The Cold War, The French Revolution, The Russian Revolution, and more. OverSimplified is sponsored by many programs, including Patreon, Honey, and Skillshare, and also sells history-related merch on its own website. Misplaced Pages"). As much as this completely fails to usefully describe it or explain its significance, that does not make it an insignificant topic.

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== Deletion of wesean student federation ==
Original line in article mediator had written was: "Later in life when Asmahan spoke about her childhood in Suwayda, she remembered it as a happy and carefree period, although she did not spend much time in the Jabal, it was what she saw as her "home" rather then Lebanon or Turkey"


Hey
Although this is close to what the source is, user Arab Cowboy changed it so it resembled the source even more : "Later in life, Asmahan told Muhammad al-Tabaʿi about her childhood in the Jabal. She remembered it as a happy and carefree period. Although she did not spend much time in the Jabal and she might have recalled visits in the early 1920s, it was what she saw as her "home" rather than her residences in Lebanon and Turkey."


I wanted to ask for a deletion review of the page Wesean student federation. I feel there has been substantial sources available from the time we first discussed its deletion. So if possible could you help me retrieve the contents of the deletion?
Source: Asmahans Secrets p 36: ''"In her late twenties, Asmahan told her friend and admirer al-Tab`i about her childhood in the mountains of the Druze. She remembered a happy and carfree period. She did not actually spend much time in the Jabal itself and probably remembered visits in early 1920s. Still, it was the Jabal Druze that had imprinted itself as "home" on her consciousness, rather than her family's residences in Turkey and in Beirut.''


thanks
http://books.google.se/books?id=Eca2pXOX-F8C&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=Adham+Khanjar+Incident&source=bl&ots=A8mYmpk5VC&sig=0AUqXfiPIaM7VndOFkIsJIcYnD8&hl=sv&ei=4spRStfPOKWKmwPQy6ioBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=Adham%20Khanjar%20Incident&f=false


Also in the Egypt influence section in a quote it says "(although she was in reality a third cousin, twice removed)" in the source it says "although she was actually a third cousin twice removed" http://books.google.se/books?id=Eca2pXOX-F8C&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=Adham+Khanjar+Incident&source=bl&ots=A8mYmpk5VC&sig=0AUqXfiPIaM7VndOFkIsJIcYnD8&hl=sv&ei=4spRStfPOKWKmwPQy6ioBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=Adham%20Khanjar%20Incident&f=false


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and also the sentence "The other side of her patriotism belonged to Egypt." in the source it says "The other side of her patriotism was to her adopted country, Egypt" Third section under "Syrian or Egyptian?" part http://www.utexas.edu/utpress/excerpts/exzuhasp.html --] (]) 19:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
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Nom.tam.fits deletion

Hi CactusWriter. A few days ago you deleted my draft article on Nom.tam.fits citing copyright violations, which were first noted by Tavantius a few hours before your deletion. I would like to clarify that the copyright violation was entirely accidental, and that it has been promptly eliminated withing hours of it having been noted, but not in time before you deleted the draft article.

The Misplaced Pages article was never based on the offending page (https://nom-tam-fits.github.io/nom-tam-fits/index.html). In fact it was the other way around. The Misplaced Pages draft article came first, but because it was still not published after 6 months, I have decided to make the content partly available online in the interim, not realizing that the maven plugin that produced the page placed an unintended copyright at the bottom of the page also automatically.

Since then the accidental copyright statement has been removed from the offending page. In fact, I have also removed the content that came from the draft Misplaced Pages article entirely.

So there is no copyright violation, as there never should have been one, bar a stupid mistake on my part. The draft Misplaced Pages article is the original (and once again the only) compiled source for the information it contains. I am asking your help to restore it.

My undeletion request has been denied on account that you have to authorize (and perhaps request) the undeletion. So I respectfully ask you to do what you can to reinstate the draft Nom.tam.fits article so it can continue to be reviewed and hopefully published eventually. I have spent around 100 hours so far crafting that article, and responding to comments from multiple editors. I would like to see it through. Thank you, in advance. Attipaci (talk) 19:09, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi, @Attipaci:. It is correct that Draft:Nom.tam.fits was deleted because the text in the article appeared on the GitHub site without a copyright license that is compatible with Misplaced Pages. (Note that while the software is released into the public domain, the documentation is not unless specified. That is why GitHub directs users to this page for the non-software.) As I'm sure you can understand, Misplaced Pages takes copyright violations very seriously -- it can place the entire project under legal jeopardy -- therefore any noted instances of copyright violation are required to be removed quickly.
The easiest solution is to grant Misplaced Pages permission to copy material already online. The instructions can be found at WP:DONATETEXT. There are two methods: the first is to place a statement on each or any website page with releases to Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 4.0 International License and the GNU Free Documentation License. (An example of a statement is given.) The second is to send an email to Wikimedia.org with a Declaration of Consent as shown at WP:DONATETEXT.
Please let me know which method you've implemented and I will restore the page. Best. — CactusWriter 22:10, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi @CactusWriter, thanks for your response and suggestion. I have added the statement to the top of https://nom-tam-fits.github.io/nom-tam-fits/index.html releasing its text into public domain. Let me know if there is anything else you need before you can restore the page. Thanks, Attipaci (talk) 13:26, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Okay, Attipaci. Much appreciated. I have removed the copyright violation template from Draft:Nom.tam.fits and made a comment on the talk page. Please note that although the text on the webpage can be copied freely now, that text may not be appropriate for an encyclopedic article. The article will still need to pass the Misplaced Pages criteria for neutral point-of-view, independent reliable sourcing and/or Misplaced Pages:Notability (software). Good luck with your editing. — CactusWriter 15:07, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Thanks @CactusWriter! The notability issue remains an open one. I would like to note that the Misplaced Pages:Notability_(software) article applies specifically to apps and programs only, and Draft:Nom.tam.fits is neither of those, and so the essay does not offer relevant guidance.
There seems to be no specific guideline for establishing notability for software libraries, which are neither apps or programs on their own, rather they are the building blocks thereof. Maybe that is just an oversight in the essay. If so, the software notability essay should be updated with a consensus on what makes software libraries notable, beyonf apps and programs.
I do think that one aspect of notability that is specific to software libraries is that if a software library is used by one or more apps/programs, which themselves are notable, then the library itself should be considered notable by extension, since it constitutes an essential part of the notable apps/programs, which would not exist in their form without the libraries it build upon... For example, if Misplaced Pages has an article on "Apple Pie", which uses apples as their essential ingredient, then it's natural that you should have an article on "Apple (fruit)" also.
In the above sense Draft:Nom.tam.fits is notable as it constitutes an essential part of several apps/programs, which themselves were deemed notable enough to have Misplaced Pages entries.
Just a thought. Maybe you can forward it to a relevant forum, or else point me to one where this can be discussed in a meaningful way... Attipaci (talk) 09:26, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Coat of arms (heraldy crown)

Hi CactusWriter. I've already mentioned issues with the article/editor to Drmies, but the editor creating Coat of arms (heraldy crown) has just re-created it again following your most recent deletion. That's the third time it'd been deleted today, I think, and it's also been moved to draft space. Anything you can do? I can tag for speedy deletion, again, but I think they'll just re-create it. They're not responding on their talk page. Cheers, Bastun 23:45, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Bastun, I've deleted the article (again) and given the user a short block. Perhaps this will prod them to begin talking rather than continue with disruptive edits. Good luck. — CactusWriter 23:50, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! Cheers, Bastun 23:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Reason

When the conversation about an article is going on, the reason to delete that article in a hurry??--Gowtham Sampath (talk) 17:42, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

My question has not yet been answered. Why??? ---Gowtham Sampath (talk) 00:44, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Gowtham Sampath. I will assume your question concerns the article Periyababusamudram. It was speedy deleted per WP:G12 as an unambiguous copyright infringement of a copyrighted page. This is a legal issue for Misplaced Pages. For legal reasons, text or images that are currently copyrighted elsewhere must be removed immediately. I see that you have recreated the article without the copyrighted text. Please remember that it is always best practice to create text from scratch rather than copy-pasting from outside sources. If you have further questions, please ask. — CactusWriter 01:48, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Contents of a deleted article

Last month, you deleted Draft:Guyana Campaign per G3. The Guyana Campaign under Bolívar was very real, which makes me wonder what exactly the hoax article stated. Any clarity here would be much appreciated. - Mebigrouxboy (talk) 16:42, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Mebigrouxboy. That draft was deleted multiple times (both in draft space and main space) when editors found that "no evidence that this existed, let alone that the things written here are true or verifiable." Please note that the article you link to in Spanish Misplaced Pages was a military campaign in 1816-1817. The hoax article was an alleged campaign in 1714. Let me know if you need further clarification. — CactusWriter 22:08, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
It seems like it had something to do with Dutch history, given the pages that link to it. Is that accurate? - Mebigrouxboy (talk) 22:41, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Yes. It described a confrontation between Portuguese, Dutch and French armies. — CactusWriter 22:49, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the help! - Mebigrouxboy (talk) 03:56, 19 March 2024 (UTC)


Why did you delete https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia/Ruda_Real?

Your explanation at the page didn’t make any sense. If you don’t think this constitutes a hoax please let MfD decide, don’t perform an illegitimate speedy deletion. Dronebogus (talk) 08:49, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Dronebogus, it probably would have been helpful if I had linked to the AN page. My larger explanation was given at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard where a request was made to delete the unused page. The page had been removed from WP:LOHOW for more than a year-and-a-half (since October 2022) without any controversy and remained unlinked to anywhere on WP other than talk pages. It was deleted again -- as it originally had been per AFD consensus. The current re-deletion is not illegitimate. Can you provide a further reason for keeping this unused page? — CactusWriter 20:37, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
I thought it was kind of up in the air whether Ruda Real was a real person. There’s a good possibility that if real (pun not intended) his music career was a hoax. Regardless as long as there was a legitimate reason to delete it I don’t care. Dronebogus (talk) 02:32, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
The real name for "Ruda Real," given on that page along with the birthdate, death date and places of birth and death were exact matches for a person listed in public government records including the United States Social Security Administration. The music career part may or may not have been real but the actual person was real with a real family. The article should either have been speedy deleted originally as non-notable or vandalism. In either case, it remained a violation of our WP:BIO policy. Thanks for your input. — CactusWriter 15:29, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Deletion review for Misplaced Pages:List of hoaxes on Misplaced Pages/Ruda Real

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Misplaced Pages:List of hoaxes on Misplaced Pages/Ruda Real. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:28, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Pppery. I've replied. And as I've always noted at the top of this talk page -- I have no issue with any administrator reversing my decisions. Cheers. — CactusWriter 17:01, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 Done Page restored and new Mfd created. — CactusWriter 14:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Regarding RD1

Hi CactusWriter, just a friendly reminder to remove {{copyvio-revdel}} from a page once you clean the history, since the template populates Category:Requested RD1 redactions. Thanks for helping to reduce the backlog. /Rational 00:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Whoops! Thanks for the reminder. — CactusWriter 01:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


Signature

Just FYI, your new signature links to User:cactuswriter, which doesn't exist as a page. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:56, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Been futzing around with my sig -- thanks for the heads-up. — CactusWriter 01:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

AFDs

Hello, CactusWriter,

Thank you for your help closing AFD deletion discussions today. We always need more admins rotating in to spend some time assessing these discussions. However, please come familiar with Misplaced Pages:XFDcloser and use it to close discussions. It's what all other closers and relisters use and it's a really simple-to-use editing tool. I know you are not using it now because you closed Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of NX Files characters and the result was 22 broken redirect pages along with their talk pages. I needed to delete them all individually.

If you close an AFD with XFDcloser, then this awesome tool will not only delete the article, its talk page and all redirects to the deleted article (and their talk pages) but it will also remove any red links that are left over from the deletion of the article. It's really standard practice and it will make the process so much easier for you than handling each AFD discussion closure yourself, manually. Just a suggestion that might save you some time and worry. Thanks again for your help. Liz 21:50, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Liz. As can be seen on my contributions, I had already used XFDcloser on all my other AFD closes today. And you're right, it certainly does simplify the process -- not like the old days of tedious manual closes. Sorry about any broken redirects. Appreciate your help. — CactusWriter 22:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


Brittani Louise Taylor - University

I am so sorry… that was such a bonehead mistake. Thank you for fixing it! 4theloveofallthings (talk) 22:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

The Special Barnstar
For taking the time to go through the sources and find my giant goof on the Brittani Louise Taylor article. 4theloveofallthings (talk) 23:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. No worries. It is a common mistake and easy enough to fix. Cheers! — CactusWriter 15:14, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Vecteezy (2nd nomination)

Just a heads up, this AfD was started by a now-blocked sock, so you may want to reconsider the close – maybe a relist while striking their comments? Cheers, Number 57 00:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I just came to post about the same AFD. I was looking at some recent AFDs created by a sockpuppet and came across this one. I'm not sure how you came to a Delete decision here. It doesn't seem to be the consensus point of view of the participants. Thanks for any explanation you can offer. Liz 05:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Yes, that one required some careful reading of the participants' discussion points since a couple of them argued against their own "keep"s. The nominator (who was not identified as a sock at close) wanted to delete based on NCORP. Oaktree voted! delete based on it being a PR piece without RS. Teratix voted! keep feeling two sources were RS (although one was shown to be a blog) but they also wanted a complete rewrite (which might be considered a TNT vote!) The next two, Chekidalum and X, said the article passed NCORP. However, X also suggested the article should never have been put in mainspace.(Essentially a draftify or TNT vote!) HighKing wrote Keep but then argued that the article failed NCORP and needed to be deleted unless completely rewritten as a different topic. IMO, the majority consensus based on editors' arguments was the article should be removed for failing NCORP and/or needing a complete rewrite. I probably should have added a line about welcoming draftify requests from anyone.
It was definitely an "interpretive" decision based on the discussion points -- and knowing their was no chance to relist for further discussion. I have no problem if either of you wants to reverse my decision and re-open the AFD for a fourth relist or to even change my close. Just let me know. — CactusWriter 21:10, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Number 57, on re-assessment, I now see that the article clearly was recreated by a sock, too. (see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/WikiAddict81/Archive about the original Vecteezy article creator) Account is blocked and reported to SPI. It should have been a WP:G5 from the get-go. Thanks for the heads-up on the sock. Do you think I should edit the AFD or redo the deletion to reflect that? — CactusWriter 14:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Looking for help

Hi you were listed as the contact for admin removal of my recently submitted page: Alley of the Dolls (band). This is my first time creating a new page so I apologize for any noob mistakes in creating but it seemed like I had answered every question brought up by other admins and contributors and supplied literally dozens of references and got nowhere. This is a band I have a lot of knowledge of, and I am really passionate about getting live on Wiki. They absolutely ARE real and established albeit not currently in the hot 100! Any advise you give to restart the page from a position that wont immediately have it pulled again would be appreciated. MusicForeverYours (talk) 16:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, @MusicForeverYours:. I have recreated the deleted article at Draft:Alley of the Dolls (band) where it can be edited for improvement. I suggest that you review the comments made at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Alley of the Dolls (band) by the discussion participants (they are all veteran WP editors). And review the links to the relevant guidelines. I saw that the issue revolved around a lack of significant coverage by independent reliable sources. Please note that blogs, PR sites, marketing websites and sales websites are invalid as reliable sources. That lack of good sourcing is usual for a new band before it becomes established. Valid reliable sources take time to emerge. Good luck with your editing. — CactusWriter 01:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

User:Adamlampalo

User:Adamlampalo was created by a sock of an LTA, as recognized at Special:CentralAuth/Adamlampalo. Therefore, it is eligible for G5 even if it was created before the sock itself was blocked. Air on White (talk) 00:24, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Okay. Here's the actual link that mentions the LTA at . It's probably helpful to point to that link in your edit summary when G5 tagging an account blocked for WP:NOTHERE or vandalism, etc. Cheers! — CactusWriter 16:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

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Recreating TV3 Group (Baltics)

Hello - I don't know the circumstances of your previous deletion of the article TV3 Group (Baltics), but I plan to create an article with that name containing the information currently displayed at the disambiguation page Channel_3.

The content will be as follows:

TV3 Group (Baltics) is a pan-Baltic commercial broadcasting company owned by Providence Equity Partners through Bitė Group in Lithuania, previously a part of Viasat operations

If this is in any way problematic, please let me know. Thank you. Coining (talk) 12:27, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

CS1 error on Edwin L. Z'berg

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Editor experience invitation

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Overrided AFD to deletion

Hi @CactusWriter,

From this log, it shows you deleted the page Chef Chioma while it's undergoing a deletion discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Chef Chioma. Please undelete the page for the discussion, which is still highly going to be deleted continue (it's a formal process though). If not, undelete the page and close the discussion when due or since consensus is met. Cheers! Safari Scribe 06:16, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi, SafariScribe. The AFD discussion can be closed early if the article has been concurrently deleted by Speedy Deletion -- it does not require the continued formal process. See WP:EARLY. The article was tagged properly as WP:G4 because it had been previously deleted a few weeks ago per AFD discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Chioma Rowland. I concurred and deleted the article. The AFD is now closed. — CactusWriter 18:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
That was what I needed. Thanks for the closing. Safari Scribe 18:09, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
No problem. For future reference, know that if you had wanted, you could have closed the AFD yourself (Wp:NACD) by just mentioning my name and the reason for speedy deletion in the result. Best — CactusWriter 18:15, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of translations of The Lord of the Rings

Hi CactusWriter

Just wanted to raise a query your close at the AFD here. The list was split out from the associated article (now at the title Translating The Lord of the Rings. As such, the prior status quo was that the two pages were in the same location, with the prose and list both in the same place. The split was never discussed and was clearly controversial and disputed, therefore the default status quo should have been to revert to it. There were many contributors to the above discussion who favoured reverting back to that prior status quo, and I think that re-merging should have been the outcome of the discussion. I don't see a strong consensus for retaining the split specifically, there was no consensus in participants on that question, and many editors were simply commenting on the notability of such a list overall rather than the merits of a split. Please could you revisit the close? Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 10:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Amakuru. I'll be happy to review my close of that discussion with you. First, the AFD was based solely on an alleged lack of notability of the list to exist on its own as a "stand-alone list" (WP:LISTN). Therefore the vast majority of the discussion addressed that issue -- with most participants "commenting on the notability" -- as one would expect for a discussion about notability. In the end, the argument "to keep" certainly outweighed the argument "to delete." As noted in my close, a merge was suggested by several of the participants, including two editors giving it as a second option after their "keep" positions. (And one editor oddly being indifferent as to either deleting or merging.) Which tipped the scales of the close on the side of keeping the stand-alone list. Only three editors spoke to merging "back," with one of them mentioning an undiscussed split. However, there was no evidence that it was "clearly controversial and disputed" as you suggest -- especially since the consensus showed that the editors were fine with a stand-alone list. If you believe the original split was controversial, and it needs to be discussed, is there any reason that you can't create a discussion for that purpose now? — CactusWriter 01:07, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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Please compare a new page to a G5-deleted page

Hello CactusWriter. Aleksandar Sasha Trajkovski was recently created. Previously, there were deletions of Aleksandar Saša Trajkovski, and one of them was yours -- a G5 (log). The impetus to create pages on these topics on Misplaced Pages comes from a promotional scheme described in Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1149#Promoter generates online coverage in real time. The Мкдвики account was globally locked. An SPI had found socks. The new Trajkovski article is not identical to Draft:Aleksandar Saša Trajkovski which is where the problem was detected at the time, but all of the references seem the same, from memory (a subset is included), the content is similar, and I think that this, together with evident WP:GAMENAME (Saša/Sasha) passes the duck test. Sincerely —Alalch E. 11:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello Alalch E. I agree. A comparison of the new article with the previous pages shows duplicated language. Because it was created by an SPA account, I've blocked the account on the WP:DUCK behavior and filed an SPI report. After a clerk has reviewed and filed the report, the page can be speedy deleted as a G5. — CactusWriter 19:04, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Page on Musician Ben Seretan

Hello! I see that you deleted the page I began on musician Ben Seretan. I would like to republish that page and would very much appreciate your help with that. Ben Seretan is a notable musician and with greater edits, I believe this page to be beneficial to the indie rock and ambient music genres. Thanks! Thequietthunder (talk) 18:31, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello! Checking back in about this- thank you! Thequietthunder (talk) 14:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi, Thequietthunder. Per your request, the deleted page has been restored at Draft:Ben Seretan. The article in its current form requires significant improvement to remove the promotional text. After you have improved the article, you can submit it for review by experienced editors. Please note that the page may still be deleted if it does not meet requirements for a Misplaced Pages page. Best. — CactusWriter 18:20, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Great, thank you! It has been edited for clarity and accuracy and it ready for review. Thequietthunder (talk) 16:01, 31 July 2024 (UTC)


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Draft:Journal of Communication & Public Relations (JCPR)

Hi, aren't all those external links promotional? --Randykitty (talk) 10:31, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Randykitty. I wavered on that one. I agree with you that almost all of the links are crap and should be tossed -- but most are just links to indices and the text wasn't exclusively promotional. The author's conversation at the help desk shows they don't understand what "references" mean. The page is borderline, can't be moved without added RS and I expect I'll be G13-ing it in about 5 months. — CactusWriter 17:18, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at WP:REFUND § Liverpool F.C. 2005–06 UEFA Champions League qualification

 You are invited to join the discussion at WP:REFUND § Liverpool F.C. 2005–06 UEFA Champions League qualification. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:09, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi CactusWriter. I'm just letting you know a bout this as a courtesy since you're the last admin to delete the article, FWIW, I don't think the IP who posted the request is aware that articles deleted via AfD aren't, in principle, eligible for REFUND and need to go to DR instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:12, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Dave Wellstone

You recently deleted an article that I spent extensive time on. I am more than happy to revise it, as I want to do it right, but I need the original source copy so I can move it to my Sandbox. Could you help me please? ~~~~ SaraJKK (talk) 16:41, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, SaraJKK. The restored article can be found now at Draft:Dave Wellstone so that it can be edited to remove any promotional or non-neutral text. I suggest that you read through Misplaced Pages fundamental policies on neutral point-of-view and promotional content. After you have finished editing, you can submit the article for review. Please note that if you have any personal connection with subject or their family or their work, than you must declare a conflict of interest (as outlined at WP:COI). If you have questions, feel free to ask. — CactusWriter 17:08, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Recreating article on ICC judge Geoffrey A. Henderson

Hi – about 10 years ago you speedy-deleted an article on Geoffrey A. Henderson. This was about a year after the International Criminal Court judge by that name took office, so I’m assuming the article was about him. At that time he had just begun presiding over the prominent trial of Laurent Gbagbo, so there may not yet have been much coverage of him. He is now the only former ICC judge without an article in the English Misplaced Pages (after I created a stub about the only other one, Mauro Politi). The opinions issued in the Gbagbo case (including his) are the subject of scholarly analysis (e.g. here). It seems pretty clear to me that he’s notable – I’m just checking with you before I recreate the article because that’s what the deletion notice asks to do. Joriki (talk) 12:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Joriki. I see no problem with you creating an article about an International Criminal Court judge named Geoffrey A. Henderson. The original article that was speedy deleted was only one sentence and there is no indication that it was the individual about whom you are writing. Cheers. — CactusWriter 20:00, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

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Premiership of Robert Jenkinson, 2nd Earl of Liverpool

Hi CactusWriter, would you mind restoring this page to allow for continued discussion at AfD? I've discussed this with another admin, Hey man im josh, at RFU, and we both think the AfD process should be given a chance. Thanks, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 18:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

I recognize you state that any admin can reverse an action you've made, but I feel better if it's mentioned/discussed with you first CactusWriter. I believe, based on the contributions to the article by someone other than the sock, that it probably should not have been G5'd to begin with. I think @Asilvering agreed with this given that they declined the initial G5 tag before the creator of the AfD restored the tag. Neveselbert put a decent amount of work into cleaning up the article, and I think they should be given a chance to continue to do so if they are want to. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Hi Neveselbert and Hey man im josh. The WP:G5 CSD criteria has always been a source of discussion and disagreement for multiple reasons. And in this case, it initially revolves around the definition of "substantial edits." Substantial edits are the significant addition of text or expansion of the article content. Before deletion, I checked through the entire list of edits. Nevelselbert did make a large quantity of edits, however, they consisted entirely of minor copyedits, markup, addition of spaces, links, etc. I found no "substantial" addition of content or substance. Even so, I might have had no problem with the article's recreation if you could point out a substantial edit. But in this case, there is a bigger problem. The article is most likely a copyright violation -- which the sock account has been cited for and has admitted to previously. I think Neveselbert recognized that possibility when they added the AI-generated tag to the article. The AFD creator also began to discuss the copyvio problem with examples of close paraphrasing. As I'm sure you're aware, copyvios cannot be restored. Therefore I would not be comfortable in restoring this article. I'm sorry that you put so much copyediting work into the deleted article, Neveselbert, but unfortunately it will need to be recreated from scratch. — CactusWriter 01:15, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Reply on User talk:XXXcatXXx

I replied on that page. Also, what did you do here: Special:Redirect/logid/164477641?

Perhaps RevDel'ing Special:Redirect/logid/164477342?

Thanks. Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 21:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Myrealnamm. Yes, I saw your comment. The account was already blocked but I re-blocked to remove talk page access. The link above is now revdel'd. — CactusWriter 21:12, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, I saw the Log action before I saw your comment. Quick question, if someone is locked, can they still access their talk page? Or does it mean they cannot sign in at all? Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 21:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Depends on the parameters selected for the block. In most cases, the user will still have access to their talk page in case they want to discuss or dispute their block. But, if that access is abused, talk page access is denied. — CactusWriter 21:19, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

New message from Neveselbert

Hello, CactusWriter. You have new messages at Misplaced Pages:Requests for undeletion.
Message added 21:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hi CW, would you mind looking at this, please? Thanks, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 21:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Appears to have been handled already. — CactusWriter 16:33, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Key cactus writer I have question

Hey dude I’m just wondering why you deleted my Grand Duchy Of MaG-V Grand Land pages. I’m just wanting to be a part of the micronation community and not intending to hurt anyone. I’m new to Misplaced Pages so can you just say what I did wrong so I will not do it again MatAGV03 (talk) 23:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

I don’t know how talking about my micronation is “inappropriate” but I’m just saying please please just let me handle this but if you want to talk please do🙂 MatAGV03 (talk) 23:33, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

MatAGV03, Misplaced Pages is not for things that you and/or your friends made up. Nor is it a web host for your personal info. If you have invented something and it has not yet been featured in reliable sources, do not write about it on Misplaced Pages. Write about it on your own website, blog or social media instead. Please read both WP:MADEUP and WP:NOT for further information. — CactusWriter 00:38, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Request for Review and Proposed Changes

Dear CactusWriter, Thank you for your feedback. I understand the COI guidelines and will no longer edit the article directly. I’d like to propose some neutral, well-sourced changes for peer review on the talk page using reliable sources such as BBC and The Herald. Could you or another editor assist in reviewing and implementing these proposed edits? Best regards, MàiriMacInnes MàiriMacInnes (talk) 12:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi @MàiriMacInnes:. Thank you for your understanding of Misplaced Pages's guidelines concerning conflict-of-interest. I have responded to your request on your talk page and added the two citations to the article. For future edits or proposals, you can make the requests directly on the article's talk page. Instructions are provided at WP:MAKINGEREQ. If you have further questions, feel free to ask. Cheers — CactusWriter 22:29, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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Oversimplified

I clicked on OverSimplified from a web search. It said you deleted this article for lack of significance.

At least the summary in the search engine made it seem like a bad article ("OverSimplified is a YouTube channel consisting of crash course videos on major and minor historical wars and revolutions. Some of the topics it covers are the American Revolution, World War I, World War II, The Cold War, The French Revolution, The Russian Revolution, and more. OverSimplified is sponsored by many programs, including Patreon, Honey, and Skillshare, and also sells history-related merch on its own website. Misplaced Pages"). As much as this completely fails to usefully describe it or explain its significance, that does not make it an insignificant topic.

Oversimplified has over 8M subscribers, and many more people who have seen it in classrooms and similar kinds of settings. The channel is pretty pioneering too. We have articles on all sorts of minor TV series with much less significance. That it happens to be on Youtube rather than on a major network doesn't decrease it's significance. It just seems like a very strange decision to delete it.

Misplaced Pages should have articles on other major educational channels too. I'm not sure where I'd place the threshold for significance, but once something is educating hundreds of thousands of people, it feels important enough to deserve an article.

Footnote: I have no connection to the creator or the channel (aside as a subscriber), and no conflicts-of-interest, but I do work in education. 73.149.241.209 (talk) 10:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

The decision to delete had nothing to do with YouTube nor the number of subscribers. I suggest that you read the two previous deletion discussions about OverSimplified. (See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Oversimplified and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Oversimplified (2nd nomination). In both cases, the unanimous consensus was to delete the article because the subject failed to meet the Misplaced Pages criteria for notability or significant coverage. The subject is currently protected against recreation. But if the subject can be demonstrated to meet those criteria now, it can be recreated through the draft process and then submitted for review. — CactusWriter 15:57, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

About Rauf Javad

Hello, have a good day, dear sir. We request you to help us in re-creating the deleted Rauf Javad page. Thank you in advance for your attention and help! Arif Hikmət türk (talk) 22:06, 19 October 2024 (UTC) Arif Hikmət türk

Hello, The same page already exists at User:Arif Hikmət türk/sandbox so, per your request for recreation, I have moved that page to Draft:Rauf Cavad. Please note that the article requires reliable independent sources -- Wikis are not reliable source therefore all links to the azerbaijani wiki have been removed. Without reliable sources, the subject may be considered non-notable or promotional. and may still be deleted again. Best. — CactusWriter 22:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Thank you Sir for the information and your help and sincerity! — Arif Hikmət türk Arif Hikmət türk (talk) 22:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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ADN Lith American TV Series (1975) Hi CactusWriter, I noticed that my draft, Draft Lith American TV Series (1975) was recently deleted under the "blatant hoax" criteria. I wanted to clarify that the draft was for a fictional series that I am developing. The content was not meant to deceive or mislead; it was simply a creative work I’m working on. I understand that Misplaced Pages has strict guidelines, so if there are other issues with the draft, I’d be happy to revise it to meet the standards. Could you please help me understand how I can better frame the draft to ensure it aligns with Misplaced Pages's rules on fictional works? Thank you for your time and consideration! Samiggles (talk) 04:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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Lotte Reiniger and sand animation

Hello! I noticed you removed a reference to Lotte Reiniger's film Adventures of Prince Achmed as one of the first documented uses of sand in animation. While Reiniger primarily animated silhouette cutouts, Walter Ruttmann created background special effects with sand, clay and wax underneath her cut-outs. This is documented in a studio photograph included in “Experimental Animation” by Cecil Starr and Robert Russett (1976), the image being reprinted in the book "Fluid Frames, Experimental Animation with Sand, Clay, Paint and Pixels (2016) (Full disclosure: I wrote the book Fluid Frames). The image is not widely available on the internet but you can see it as the second image in this post https://www.instagram.com/mosmapdx/p/CmbsdhEL2Lf/?img_index=2

I will be putting this information back in but will clarify the use of sand in background effects only since I can see how it might have been misleading. whiogirl (talk) 17:29, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hi, thanks for your speedy of User:Sitting duck. I've just noticed a previous speedy deletion in February 2008, on the same grounds. Could you tell me if a) I was involved in that previous speedy? and b) was there any similarity between the vandalism then and the recent vandalism? There's a very faint bell ringing that makes me wonder if there is a connexion. DuncanHill (talk) 01:50, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi, DuncanHill. The answer is "no" to both your questions. — CactusWriter 03:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you. DuncanHill (talk) 03:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Deletion of wesean student federation

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I wanted to ask for a deletion review of the page Wesean student federation. I feel there has been substantial sources available from the time we first discussed its deletion. So if possible could you help me retrieve the contents of the deletion?

thanks


~~~ Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 01:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Flyingphoenixchips, the article has been draftified at Draft:Wesean Student Federation where you can edit and improve it. When it has been improved, do not move it to main space yourself. Submit it for review. Good luck with your editing. — CactusWriter 03:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)