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			Child, take a look what has happened to the No Gun Ri (Massacre) page. Then look at edits. Feb and March "CJHanley" is the same Hanley mentioned in the article itself. Excised all materials about himself, etc. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:11, 28 May 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	<center>WIKIPEDIA IS CENSORED BY POV PUSHING VANDALS</center>


	<center>'''I will not now or ever remain silent in the face of attacks on Misplaced Pages's integrity, including the censorship of minority perspectives in violation of our core neutral point of view (]) policy, and the attempted intimidation and harassment of editors holding minority viewpoints. Some things are worth fighting for, and I will never kowtow to ignorance and bias or the thugs that advance them as a righteous cause. '''</center>

	], seen here at ] in 1928 (before their rise to power), Misplaced Pages is patrolled by "brownshirted" stormtroopers in 2009 censoring those they disagree with from speaking]]
			<center>The ] was a massive success with four Good Articles (GAs) produced, lots of photographs and an illustrious porkasmorg of DYKs for ] on March 1... and in dribs and drabs after as even more DYKs keep coming, so keep your eyes peeled for more bacon. The final scoring for the (first ever) ] are still being tabulated. <small>And the ] has officially kicked off for sign-ups and new bacon article idea submissions!!!</small></center>
	] of ] and ] as displayed in a 1934 Nazi exhibition, an environment not unlike that on Misplaced Pages where content contributors who don't toe the line are subject to grotesque abuse]]
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			<center>'''The prophetic view of a heavenly-anointed master of rhetorical interaction and richochetotry (aka ])'''</center>
			:] ] in ] form — noting that when someone knows enough about '''rhetoric''' to know where the ]s are, he or she can attempt to turn it down, but not before. {serious ]}
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			<big><Center><U>Midnight Comes</U></center></big>
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			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.01}</small> ____</font> WHEN GANGS OF BULLIES gather, Midnight comes
			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.02}</small> ____</font> destabilizing bullshit with her own.
			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.03}</small> ____</font> The truth is wasted on the nasty bums
			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.04}</small> ____</font> who fill up '''"ad hoc firing squads"''' well known ...

			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.05}</small> ____</font> ... at ANI — which gives the vile a role
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			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.06}</small> ____</font> with T-shirts marked "community" to wear.
	<center>'' '''Delete''' all content that I think is boring or that can be obtained from other sources. But '''keep''' both the articles that remain.'' — <Font color="Navy"> One of Misplaced Pages's Wise Men</Font></center>
			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.07}</small> ____</font> Decision on the facts is not the goal.
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			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.08}</small> ____</font> '''Humiliation''' is. No, not "what's fair."

			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.09}</small> ____</font> Some vague aspersion cast is made to stick
	*Please leave your flattering comments and appreciation for my good work at the bottom of the page.
			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.10}</small> ____</font> by snowball bullshit that's then packed on top.
	*Read about the ''']''' or get an early start on the ''']''' coming up in December, 2009 as a giant ] to all of Misplaced Pages that will be unwrapped March 1, 2010 for ]!
			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.11}</small> ____</font> Antagonizing target till they're sick
	*For ]-discussion of this talk page please see its talk page at ], and for meta-discussion of the meta-discussion see that page's talk page at ]
			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.12}</small> ____</font> with '''social blows''' which no one will make stop.

			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.13}</small> ____</font> '''THEN ChildofMidnight comes and says: FUCK THAT!'''
			<font color=gray><small>{CoM.001.14}</small> ____</font> (No matter if you're Wales or Bureaucrat.)
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			I have had tears of ] come to my eyes ] an ] remembering ChildofMidnight in ] — defending someone while they slept, leaving them ] from harm until they arrived, and found nothing they needed to do. The ] had ]. And by the way, ] ] sent me here to say this, ] and ]. Have a care with ChildofMidnight — ] comes ... sooner than you think. {Serious smile}<br>
			-- ] <sup>(])</sup> 10:15, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

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			<big><center>'''In Other News'''</center></big>
			'''THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU to everyone who participated in ]!!!!''' There are still a lot of holes in our coverage, but a lot of progress was made in ringing up some great content fillings!!! ''Is there anything they can't do?''

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	== For later ==

			== Stuff ==
	*] ref name="" Rosecrans Baldwin April 23, 2009
	The Digital Ramble \| Furniture Design New York Times blog /ref
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			*Windsor school history (google book source) Recommneds closing winsor
	== If I have misjudged ], then I apologize. ==
			*plans for a school
			*Page 3888 Otis Elevator add for Woolworth building work
			* page 90 notes source with pics
			*Frederick Douglass school history
			*Pendretti family

			== For later ==
	] (]) 04:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
	:My intent was to make a comment relevant to the discussion and wasn't meant to be confrontational. I generally steer clear of Tarc because we've had disagreements in the past and he's been aggressive in going after me. I also don't find his approach to editing Misplaced Pages constructive or collegial. But I made a simple comment on that particular issue to note something I had read about. He's welcome to remove my comment or to ask that I avoid posting on his talk page. I try to honor that type of request as common decency would indicate. ] (]) 05:08, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
	::I am glad to hear that I was mistaken; it was my fear that you were teaming up with ] in order to ] ]. Once again, I apologize for misunderstanding your intent.<br>] (]) 05:54, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
	:::Grundle is one of the nicest and most good natured Wikipedians I've met. Those who disagree with him have come after him hard core, but he's remained courteous and collegial. Having a different opinion or a sense of humor shouldn't be a reason to be castigated. ] (]) 16:21, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
	:::: that we will have to agree to disagree. ''Viva la diferance'' and all of that.....<br>Respectfully,<br>] (]) 17:14, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
	:::::Grundle has a thing for ] and wants to share his love with others. He posted here about the book also. Try to assume good faith and keep in mind that Grundle has a sense of humor. While deleting someone else's article efforts is aggressive and frustrating, noting points of interest on a talk page seems harmless and friendly. I note stuff with my Misplaced Pages colleagues all the time. They don't have to agree with me. And again, if Tarc doesn't want Grundle to post on his talk page all he has to do is say so, and he's free to remove any message he doesn't like. I think you're reading far too much into an innocent and playful communication. Grundle is fantastic, if slightly insane. ] (]) 17:22, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

			], Cincinnati
	== Bacon ==
			. , ,

			]
	. ] (]) 17:06, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
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			] Lima, Ohio
	:Funny, I was just going to start a section here called "Bacon." Although wikipedia already has an article called ] which mentions the new , it's simply altered from an already existing article about a different use of that phrase, and doesn't even have any sources. I suggest you create ] if it hasn't already been created yet. ] (]) 23:44, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
			McLaughlin
	::That is a strange article indeed. It started out strange. Got stranger. Was redirected to ]. And now it's strange again. I thought doubling down was what you do at a casino if you're in a hurry to lose money. As I recall it's also a nickname given to one of the characters in the ]. I'm not familiar with the KFC sandwich. But I assume it isn't ]? ] (]) 01:55, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
			*Coburn
	:::Of course it's not kosher. I thought you'd like to be the one to get credit for starting the article, but I see it's still red. ] (]) 19:52, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

	== Dramaout? ==

	If you are talking about the DramaONLY, I decided in the end not to participate. I've been working behind the scenes lately and patching up articles, but I have fit in some time to revert vandalism (my personal favorite duty). How about you CoM. Any interesting articles as of late?--<span style="font-family:Arial"><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub></span> 02:54, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
	:Oh. My mistake. Was naming it that meant to be funny?
	: The article mentioned above has a certain entertainment value. The ] is also imbued with a special sort of fun quotient that's a bit unusual.
	:I'm not working on anything especially interesting at the moment. I'd like to do an article on Michelle Obama and fashion, but Misplaced Pages is safe for now because I am prohibited from working on that article subject area as punishment for insisting that there are actually notable criticisms and controversies related to the Obama clan. I kicked out some Jamaican cuisine articles that were fun. See ] and ]. And I worked up ] and ] articles with a whole lot of help from Aymatth2. But I don't have a new muse, yet... ] (]) 03:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

	== Photos ==

	These articles still need photos if you can believe it: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], and ]. Why not make some tonight?
	*These photos need uploading. Black garlic and/ or. ] . Pancit We already have photos of ], but none as good or as encyclopedic (showing accompaniments) as this one . ] kiwali by CeciliaMQ (although I see there is already a good photo). . Bacon wrapped breadsticks . And this photo for ] (one of my fav articles) is also good. :) ] . ] . Kofte kebab ]. And there is a photo already for ], but this a lovely shot of a dish using it . ] (]) 03:22, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

	== ] ==

	I think the article should be deleted and Original Pilipino Music be created in its place. Nothing in the article is notable or neutral enough to be kept.--] (]) 03:52, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
	:If you create an article on Original Pilipino Music, I will see if there is anything worth merging from the Pp article and then redirect it. ] (]) 03:57, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
	::Not to point out the obvious, but to avoid wheel reinvention, please see ]. <sup><small><font color="green">]</font></small></sup><sub style="margin-left:-4.2ex;"><small><font color="blue">]</font></small></sub> 06:32, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
	:::Roger, Roger. I concluded it is independently notable and ripe for expansion into its own article. You know me! Pageless encyclopedia... :) ] (]) 06:34, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

	== ] ==

	Generally we don't use machine translators, as you might have noticed, the article is still barely understandable, and arguably worse for wikipedia since if its not deleted it will most likely stay in that state for a long time. Machine translations should only be used to learn what an article is about--]] 03:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
	:Well how am I supposed to decide whether to keep it or not if I can't read it? I think it's better now. But if you want to revert it and find a Croation editor to translate that would be okay too. But I don't see how we can delete something because no one has translated it when we don't know what it says. ] (]) 04:00, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
	::You could just read the translation without actually adding it. The whole point of the AFD is that no has bothered to translate it, so either the afd causes someone to pop up and translate it properly, or it gets deleted--]] 04:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
	:::Doesn't help to know what the article is about and to get a sense of what it says before it's decided whether to delete it? ] (]) 04:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
	::::Like I said, you can always just read the translation without adding it, however, generally, it doesn't, the only criteria for deletion being used here is the that fact it hasn't been translated in two weeks, that's just how PNT works--]] 04:10, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

	== Check this out ==

	--<span style="font-family:Arial"><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub></span> 06:22, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
	:I've seen better. :) ] (]) 06:35, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
	::I have too, but you have to admit it's one of the best in a while.--<span style="font-family:Arial"><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub></span> 06:40, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

	== Skishing ==

	Oh well done, you clever lad! You have no doubt saved ] from deletion. Now please find a category it can can fit into. An article on over-resourced, fat-arse US-americans pouncing about in such stupid and destructive ways has no place in the fishing project! --] (]) 14:10, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
	:We invented fishing. ] (]) 19:13, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
	::Had to comment on this. While Geronimo's comment was somewhat overly aggressive, please please please tell me you're joking--]] 19:34, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

	== DYK for Roadkill cuisine ==

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	== I put it where folks might expect to find it ==

	I copied the stub from my sandbox and placed the contents in the section in ] about ] , as I cannot find enough for it to exist on its own. ] (]) 05:47, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

	== I think you will enjoy this video. ==

	two minute video at YouTube is the best description of the Obama administration I've ever heard. ] (]) 21:20, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
	:Interesting. He made some excellent points. I didn't like that he walked away before the congressman could answer though. But I respect his passion. Si se puede. ] (]) 21:26, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

	== Re:Photo licensing ==

	Photos ''do'' need to be availble for commercial use and derivative work. "Permission for use on Misplaced Pages" is not legitimate- the entry on the upload form is a "trap" and tags the image for speedy deletion. There's also no issue with faces on photos- on Commons, there is a template for personality rights, but on Misplaced Pages, it's not really an issue unless we are accusing someone of something- standard ] stuff. Is this related to a specific image? ] (]) 22:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

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	:No longer orphaned. ] (]) 17:44, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

	== Tweak? ==

	] - You are a highly (VASTLY) experienced WP editor, and changing an article from being about "Vegetarianism" to one about "Vegetarians" is not a tweak.] (]) 17:39, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
	:Actually there was an edit conflict so I didn't get to finish. I was trying to work in vegetarian and vegetarianism (since that article has to cover both as there is not vegetarian article) but didn't get the chance. That article is a mess. For example focusing is spelled incorrectly. It seems kind of ridiculous that vegetarian redirects to vegetarianism anyway. But if it's going to be a combined article it should at least cover both. Cheerios! ] (]) 17:43, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
	:: I agree about the article. :) I knew there had to be some explanation. I do wish it were easier to handle edit conflicts... Maybe it could pop up another window instead of painting over the exiting one, or something. All the best.] (]) 17:47, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
	:: If you want to see something related and REALLY painful, look at some of the versions of ]. I ran away quickly.] (]) 17:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
	:::Yes. I see I'm over my head there. But at least it was changed so it doesn't say that vegetarian and herbivore are synonymous (although I see at least one dictionary definition makes that claim). Thanks for being understanding. I seem to have gotten in over my head on that one stepping in and trying to collaborate in fixing it up. I will take a look at the other article. Are you vegetarian? What about ]? :) ] (]) 17:55, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
	:::Ugh. I couldn't get past the first sentence. They do that "In XYZ," formatting on mathematical articles as well. Makes for a very awkward and dull lead sentence. And it only gets worse from there. :) Truly it's a bit of a monstrosity.
	:::I'm going back to where it's safe. :) Any time a subject is a piont of passion for people it is hard to achieve rational editing and collaboration. I also think it's interesting that people with alternative lifestyles that are based on tolerance and empathy are sometimes very closed minded and fanatical about their version of the subject or practice being the only one that's valid. Being omnivorous I support equality for all. :) ] (]) 18:00, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
	:::The ] article is a mess too. I think an article on the diet at ] and the belief system at vegetarianism would be good. But I think I'm done. It's too difficult to work with the people involved in feuding over those articles. :) ] (]) 18:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
	::::] is good because it makes booze. :) Vegetarian, nay, I just followed a vandal into ] and put it on my watch list... I am not at all sure it is fixable but I figure if I just murder a small number of Bad Things (Vegetarians are synonymous with herbivores blink*) it will help at least a tiny bit. An editor I have worked with (and opposite) pointed me at the ], and I actually made several edits before I decided that a) I wasn't going to accomplish <s>much</s> anything and b) it was going to hurt a lot, so I fled. Be safe. Have fun.] (]) 18:28, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

	== DYK for Golden Krust Caribbean Bakery & Grill ==

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	== Clarification from ] ==

	Hi there, I hope I didn't cause any offense. When I mentioned your diet it was because of my own misunderstanding: When you said "What about fungi? They aren't plants are they?" I mentally switched the words "aren't" and "are", which made me think you said the complete opposite of what you did. So, when C6541 then said "Fungi are fungi, not plants. Sigh... vegetarians...", I thought s/he was refuting your comment (instead of actually agreeing with it), and sighing at the stupidity of vegetarians who would think fungi are plants. So I mentioned that you ''weren't'' a vegetarian, and pointed out that some vegetarians (like me) actually understand the difference between fungi and plantae. When I realized my mistake, I reverted my mention of you. Anyway. Thanks for the reminder to keep COIs in check; I always make every effort to keep mine in check, but reminders are always helpful. And ] has not infrequently been a target of POV-pushing (from both directions), so being careful with COI is a good thing to keep in mind there. Thanks again! -] (]) 00:26, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

	* It gets worse. . Fungi may be the only choice. ] (]) 00:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
	::I tried to add this as an external link to the ] article, but other editors weren't receptive. This is sort of funny and painful , but I'm not sure what it has to do with anything. ] (]) 01:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
	:::I wonder if is ok for vegetarians. It certainly doesn't resemble meat. -] (]) 01:47, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
	::::Not okay. That one's not a gray area. :) Not according to my POV anyway. Whether it is actually meat is an open question though. ] (]) 01:48, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
	::::*Could be Just try not to cause any unnecessary pain to the celery. ] (]) 02:51, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

	== ] ==

	I think your changes to the lede today are a big improvement. This gives a much more complete summary of the topic than was there previously, so thanks for that. I've made small tweak which hopefully won't be controversial.--] (]) 19:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
	:Cool. I have big plans for how the subject is covered. :) ] (]) 19:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

	== Childofmidnight blog ==

	I have just eastablished the ChildofMidnight blog: http://childofmidnight.wordpress.com/. Since I have a lot of important and interesting things to say I wanted to give others a chance to share in the learning. Does anyone have any experience with this sort of thing? I'm planning to do some posts on food, So Cal., Misplaced Pages, politics, and other things that interest me. Is that too broad? :) I expect to make a lot of money from it as it grows and advertisers line up to be a part of the awesomeness. ] (]) 19:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

	== NowCommons: File:Sodolak's chicken fried bacon.jpg ==

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	:I realize I'm replying to a bot, but it seems unfortunate that the commons image is so poorly captioned and the appropriately captioned photo we had here will be deleted. The information on where and when the photo was taken will be lost (Chicken fried bacon with cream gravy from Snook, Texas in 2006, Flikr account carabou, http://www.flickr.com/photos/carabou/270361246/ freely licensed with attribution), which is very significant to what the image is of. The new caption "the real thing" or something like that is silly. ] (]) 06:38, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

	== ] article ==

	I just wanted to give you a heads-up that I have made some edits to the changes you made earlier on the Mark Levin article. The edits are minor and I haven't made any substantive changes to the way that you reworded the section, but I wanted to bring them to your attention so you can review them and verify that you're okay with them. I think the disputed words in question were acceptable, but I don't want to make an already acrimonious situation worse by being pedantic. I'll probably do some further clean-up to the rest of the article but wanted to bring this to your attention first. ] (]) 22:08, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
	:Okay. Thanks for your courteous message. I'll have a look. ] (]) 22:09, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
	:Generally it looks okay to me. I think some more substance over Levin's positions might be good to add to the article. I don't really know what his stands are other than beign opposed to Dems and (American) liberals.
	:I do have one remaining concern with the text as written. I haven't actually read or listened to Levin, so I have no idea how confrontational he is, but the way one sentence is written it seems to make a judgment that isn't very neutral. I would prefer to have it written in a way that is more encyclopedic and either attributes who is describing him as being confrontational or just leaves that opinion out. So from "], a conservative journalist and former speechwriter for ], has also criticized Levin's confrontational approach as an example of..." I prefer "], a conservative journalist and former speechwriter for ], criticized Levin's approach as being confrontational and an example of..."

	:or "], a conservative journalist and former speechwriter for ], criticized Levin as an example of..." It's not a major issue, but I think one of those tweaks would be an improvement because the way it's written we're saying he is confrontational. If that's an important point I'd rather make it elsewhere with good sourcing. I also took out the "has" as being passive voice which is what I was trying to do on the other bit with Pelosi, but I see that I didn't do it properly. Anyway, I suppose we can carry out further discussion on the talk page, but I'm pretty okay with the way the content is treated now. Have you read any of his writings? I saw that his book was pretty successfull and I know he's partisan, but I haven't read what his positions and take are. I presume you're not a fan :) but I wonder if there is anything novel or interesting in his work or if he's just staking out the usual battle lines. Take care. ] (]) 22:24, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

	::I think that the article in general could stand to be expanded, and the section I added would probably benefit from the perspective of those who have defended Levin, including Levin himself. I don't have the stomach to do it myself because (as you can tell) I'm not a fan, but I do think it would be fair, which is why I suggested that people who were opposed to my edits improve the section by adding context. As far as the statements above are concerned, I think they're fine, and I frankly regret getting so hung up over semantics earlier. I do think I was correct about the disputed words in question, and I have a tendency to be stubborn when I'm convinced I'm right, but if the information can be restated in a way that is more broadly acceptable to the community without censoring relevant information, then that's something I can support.

	::Regarding the Levin article, I'm probably going to take a few steps back and perhaps try coming back to the article later with a fresh perspective. I'm working on a few other articles right now and will probably seek out a few non-political ones to work on as well, to give myself an opportunity to build my editing experience a bit in a more peaceful setting. :-) I haven't read much of Levin's writing and definitely don't listen to his show regularly, but what I've heard/read of him leads me to think that he's pretty much a louder, male version of Ann Coulter, both in terms of ideology and style.

	::Thanks for being patient with me as I learn the ropes here. ] (]) 03:22, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

	== ] ==

	{{Tb\|Paalappoo\|Puri (food)}}

	== Thanks for rolling out the welcome mat ==

	The links & information you posted on my talk page will be most helpful and are greatly appreciated. Side note: I got a chuckle out of the fact that one of the articles listed in the suggested tasks box was ], and was even more amused when I noticed that it was listed right after ]. I suppose that says more about my sense of humor than anything else.

	Thanks again. ] (]) 05:19, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

	== Removed comments ==

	Hi. While looking at the most recent edit history at ] it appears that while formatting the page you removed Bluemarines response to a post that he had struck out - you later unstruck the post. Was Bluemarines response removed in error, or in regard to some discussion (I haven't located it)? Although Bluemarines language is yet again non optimal, I think he isn't violating any guideline, policy, or restriction in the context of his post. Can you review this, please. ] (]) 11:59, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
	:Hi LVU. I removed it on purpose and explained why in my response. It was bold, but given the circumstances and the level of drama surrounding the article I thought it was the best approach to nip a discussion that wasn't going anywhere in the bud. The post was about the anon editor who posted, so it wasn't constructive or useful to article building. I thought about it and decided it was best to keep the discussion focused on article issues rather than editors, and tried to get that across to Bluemarine in my reponse and explanation. If someone objects they can revert me, but I think keeping the discussion narrowly focused on the article would be ideal. :) ] (]) 17:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

	== Footwear ==

	Hi, I have been in Natucket for about a week, without secure email/Internet access, so I am using my less secure Sock account. I'll be back next week at work. ] (]) 15:30, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

	== Some wine? ==

	From ], perhaps? ] (]) 22:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

	== ChildofMidnight topic banned ==

	As a party to the ''Obama articles'' arbitration case, you are notified as a courtesy of this amendment to the final decision.

			== Working on ==
	By of the Committee at ],

			* ]
	{{Quotation\|] in the ] is replaced by the following (timed to run from the date the case closed): <blockquote>{{userlinks\|ChildofMidnight}} is topic-banned from Obama-related articles for six months, and any related discussions, broadly construed across all namespaces.</blockquote>}}
			* ]?
			* ]?
			* ] Very notable ] smoked meat producer dating to the 1920s ,
			*] Very notable and renowned bacon supplier in Wisconsin. "HOG HEAVEN BACON LOVERS AGREE: NUESKE'S FROM WISCONSIN IS THE BEST" and
			* Architects

			== National Pig Day gallery ==
	Discussion of this motion should be directed ].

			These photos were uploaded as part of the ]
	For the Arbitration Committee,<br/>] 12:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
			<center>
	:Based on what? What a joke. ] (]) 16:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
			<gallery>
			Image:Pig_candy.jpg\|"Pig candy"
			Image:Chicken_Burger_and_Bacon_in_Edinburgh.jpg\|Chicken burger and bacon in Edinburgh
			Image:Bacon_sushi.jpg \|Bacon sushi
			Image:Gourmet hamburger with bacon.jpg \|"The Leaning Tower of Bacon"
			Image:Bacon_peanut_brittle.jpg \| Bacon peanut brittle
			Image:Luther Burger Google.jpg \| Bacon Krispy Kreme burger
			Image:Bacon_nigirizushi.jpg \| Bacon nigirizushi
			Image:Bacon_wrapped_turkey.jpg \| Bacon wrapped turkey
			Image:Bacon-themed_dinner.jpg \| Bacon-themed dinner
			Image:Bacon-wrapped_banana.jpg \| Bacon-wrapped banana
			Image:Vegan_Bacon_maple_french_toast_cupcakes.jpg \| Vegan_Bacon maple french toast cupcakes
			Image:Bacon_materializer.jpg \| Bacon materializer
			Image:Peanut_butter_and_bacon_sandwich.jpg\| Peanut butter and bacon sandwich
			Image:Bacon,_leek,_tomato_and_garlic_casserole.jpg \| Bacon, leek, tomato and garlic casserole
			Image:Bacon_cornbread.jpg \| Bacon cornbread
			Image:Bacon_lollipops.jpg \| Bacon lollipops
			Image:Bacon_and_ricotta_pizza.jpg \| Bacon and ricotta pizza
			Image:Freeze-dried_bacon_bars.jpg \| Freeze-dried bacon bars
			Image:International_Bacon_Day_symbol.jpg \| International Bacon Day symbol
			Image:Bacon_wrapped_scallops.jpg \| Bacon wrapped scallops
			Image:Veggie_%22bacon%22_breakfast.jpg \| Veggie bacon breakfast
			Image:Bacon_apple_pie.jpg \| Bacon apple pie
			Image:Egg_and_bacon_pie_with_chips.jpg \| Egg and bacon pie with chips
			Image:Bacon_pie_shell.jpg \| Bacon pie shell
			Image:Bacon-wrapped_scallop.jpg \| Bacon-wrapped scallop
			Image:RawBacon.JPG \| Raw bacon
			Image:Stuffed burger - jucy lucy variation.jpg \| "Stuffed burger"
			Image:ScotlandBreakfastWithBacon.JPG \| Breakfast with bacon in Scotland
			Image:Danish bacon cooking.jpg \| Danish bacon cooking
			Image:Pig fat to biodiesel.jpg \| Pig fat and biodiesel
			Image:Bio-blend tanker.gif \| Bio-blend tanker
			Image:Sleeping Guinea Hog 2.jpg \| Sleeping Guinea hog
			Image:British Saddleback sow.jpg \| British Saddleback sow
			Image:British Saddleback boar.jpg \| British Saddleback boar
			Image:Bacon_pancakes.jpg \| Bacon pancakes
			Image:Bacon_and_cheese_okonomiyaki.jpg \| Bacon and cheese okonomiyaki
			Image:Baguette_french_toast_with_bacon,_caramelised_apples_and_apple_syrup.jpg \| Baguette french toast with bacon, caramelised apples and apple syrup
			Image:Spaghetti_omelet_with_bacon.jpg \| Spaghetti omelet with bacon
			Image:Bacon_and_cabbage.jpg \| Bacon and cabbage
			Image:Stir_Fried_Cabbage_and_Bacon_培根高丽菜_.jpg \| Stir fried cabbage and bacon
			Image:Chocolate covered bacon 2.JPG \| Chocolate covered bacon prepared by one of Misplaced Pages's own (who's now taken to studying Mongolian BBQ)
			Image:Bacon_sandwich.jpg \| Bacon sandwich
			Image:Chocolate_bacon_cupcake.jpg \| Chocolate bacon cupcake
			Image:Pineapple_bacon_cheeseburger.jpg \| Pineapple bacon cheeseburger
			Image:Jeju Black Pig.jpg \| Jeju Black Pig
			Image:Butterball Turkey Bacon Package.jpg \| Butterball Turkey Bacon Package
			Image:Packaged Smoked Bacon.jpg \| Packaged Smoked Bacon
			Image:Three strips of cooked turkey bacon.jpg \| Three strips of cooked turkey bacon
			Image:Package of Oscar Mayer Turkey Bacon.jpg \| Package of Oscar Mayer Turkey Bacon
			Image:Turkey bacon cooking in skillet.jpg \| Turkey bacon cooking in skillet
			</gallery>
			</center>

	== ] ==		== Fat-boy and friend ==

			]
	I was the one who sort of "removed" the content on the article and tried to add in a stub-ful of information. On IRC, certain people wanted to delete or redirect it (most of these people voted on the AFD, redirect) because of it's "OR", so I tried to add in some information that supposedly wasn't OR, to try and save the article. However, re-reading the article now shows that the content is not OR, but just needs a few references. Just wanted to tell you, I didn't mean to remove your content on the article, and I thank you for your efforts in trying to save the article. ]] 17:17, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
			]
	:Okay. Thanks for the note. I understand the concern about citations. Common information that isn't disputed doesn't actually have to be cited. So if anyone disputes the content they can add citaiton needed tags. There is a fanatacism about citations, but many articles that weren't created recently have no citations, and some of them are quite excellent. That being said, the ] article certainly needs to be based on reliable sources and as it is expanded and developed it should be cited. I don't think there's anything there that can't be cited. It's ripe for expansion. Unfortunately, new articles are often targeted and squashed before they have a chance to develop. Hopefully this one can be saved. The diet and the belief system are distinct enough that they should be treated independently. Cheers. Thanks for the note. ] (]) 17:23, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
			{{-}}

	====
	{{trout}}

	A dish made with trout that Durova sent you, could arose your appetite in autumn, but CoM, you really should not assume bad faith on and mischaracterize the admin who has helped you regardless of your animosity against him, and Durova just out of your frustration over the ArbCom case.--] 22:59, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

			]
	==Images==
	The Nazi images are also ''very'' concerning. You would better take out them from your page.--] 23:02, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
	:I'm not going to have any part in standing by silently while history repeats itself. No thank you. The only thing I agree with you on regarding this matter Caspian blue is that the comparison with the Nazis is eerie. I've sectioned this part of the discussion becuase I don't want it to be unduly associated with the one above. ] (]) 23:04, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 18:20, 5 December 2024

Child, take a look what has happened to the No Gun Ri (Massacre) page. Then look at edits. Feb and March "CJHanley" is the same Hanley mentioned in the article itself. Excised all materials about himself, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.188.140.194 (talk) 12:11, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

The Bacon Challenge 2010 was a massive success with four Good Articles (GAs) produced, lots of photographs and an illustrious porkasmorg of DYKs for National Pig Day on March 1... and in dribs and drabs after as even more DYKs keep coming, so keep your eyes peeled for more bacon. The final scoring for the (first ever) Bacon WikiCup 2010 are still being tabulated. And the Bacon Challenge 2011 has officially kicked off for sign-ups and new bacon article idea submissions!!!

The prophetic view of a heavenly-anointed master of rhetorical interaction and richochetotry (aka Proofreader77)

Rhetorical verse in Shakespearean sonnet form — noting that when someone knows enough about rhetoric to know where the knobs are, he or she can attempt to turn it down, but not before. {serious smile}

Midnight Comes

{CoM.001.01} ____ WHEN GANGS OF BULLIES gather, Midnight comes
{CoM.001.02} ____ destabilizing bullshit with her own.
{CoM.001.03} ____ The truth is wasted on the nasty bums
{CoM.001.04} ____ who fill up "ad hoc firing squads" well known ...

{CoM.001.05} ____ ... at ANI — which gives the vile a role
{CoM.001.06} ____ with T-shirts marked "community" to wear.
{CoM.001.07} ____ Decision on the facts is not the goal.
{CoM.001.08} ____ Humiliation is. No, not "what's fair."

{CoM.001.09} ____ Some vague aspersion cast is made to stick
{CoM.001.10} ____ by snowball bullshit that's then packed on top.
{CoM.001.11} ____ Antagonizing target till they're sick
{CoM.001.12} ____ with social blows which no one will make stop.

{CoM.001.13} ____ THEN ChildofMidnight comes and says: FUCK THAT!
{CoM.001.14} ____ (No matter if you're Wales or Bureaucrat.)

I have had tears of joy come to my eyes frying an egg remembering ChildofMidnight in action — defending someone while they slept, leaving them safe from harm until they arrived, and found nothing they needed to do. The horror had past. And by the way, God Herself sent me here to say this, ladies and gentlemen. Have a care with ChildofMidnight — Judgment Day comes ... sooner than you think. {Serious smile}
-- Proofreader77 10:15, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

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		For balancing the scales amidst the flames. Proofreader77 (talk) 21:38, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

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Windsor school history (google book source) Recommneds closing winsor
plans for a school
Page 3888 Otis Elevator add for Woolworth building work
page 90 notes source with pics
Frederick Douglass school history
Pendretti family

For later

James W. McLaughlin, Cincinnati . , , Wayne County Courthouse
Thomas D. McLaughlin Lima, Ohio McLaughlin

Coburn

Working on

Cudahy Packing Company
Greater Omaha Packing Company?
Mallika Badrinath?
Burgers’ Smokehouse Very notable California, Missouri smoked meat producer dating to the 1920s ,
Nueske’s Applewood Smoked Meats Very notable and renowned bacon supplier in Wisconsin. "HOG HEAVEN BACON LOVERS AGREE: NUESKE'S FROM WISCONSIN IS THE BEST" and
Architects

National Pig Day gallery

These photos were uploaded as part of the Bacon Challenge 2010

"Pig candy"
Chicken burger and bacon in Edinburgh
Bacon sushi
"The Leaning Tower of Bacon"
Bacon peanut brittle
Bacon Krispy Kreme burger
Bacon nigirizushi
Bacon wrapped turkey
Bacon-themed dinner
Bacon-wrapped banana
Vegan_Bacon maple french toast cupcakes
Bacon materializer
Peanut butter and bacon sandwich
Bacon, leek, tomato and garlic casserole
Bacon cornbread
Bacon lollipops
Bacon and ricotta pizza
Freeze-dried bacon bars
International Bacon Day symbol
Bacon wrapped scallops
Veggie bacon breakfast
Bacon apple pie
Egg and bacon pie with chips
Bacon pie shell
Bacon-wrapped scallop
Raw bacon
"Stuffed burger"
Breakfast with bacon in Scotland
Danish bacon cooking
Pig fat and biodiesel
Bio-blend tanker
Sleeping Guinea hog
British Saddleback sow
British Saddleback boar
Bacon pancakes
Bacon and cheese okonomiyaki
Baguette french toast with bacon, caramelised apples and apple syrup
Spaghetti omelet with bacon
Bacon and cabbage
Stir fried cabbage and bacon
Chocolate covered bacon prepared by one of Misplaced Pages's own (who's now taken to studying Mongolian BBQ)
Bacon sandwich
Chocolate bacon cupcake
Pineapple bacon cheeseburger
Jeju Black Pig
Butterball Turkey Bacon Package Butterball Turkey Bacon Package
Packaged Smoked Bacon
Three strips of cooked turkey bacon
Package of Oscar Mayer Turkey Bacon Package of Oscar Mayer Turkey Bacon
Turkey bacon cooking in skillet

Fat-boy and friend

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