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== Huh? ==

Mine was the last comment on Peter Damien's talk page before he pulled out his own plug. Do you think it was something I said? --] (]) 02:31, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:Beats me - I'm pretty hacked off with Peter about this. The idea had some legs - not as the radical agro group I think Peter alluded to, but as place for editors to gather and compare notes and think about or advocate improvements. Twitchy people didn't like the idea so it was plagued by an MfD an appeal to Arbcom and then an RfC - unfortunately they only saw Peter's radical proclamations, rather than the moderates calling for something quite benign, so he did nothing to help there - but I'm mostly hacked off about him marching a bunch of good editors onto the playing field, only to storm off with the ball in a huff. He's a good editor, but that's no way to behave. Was it something you said? erm no, fairly sure about that. --] (]) 12:29, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think most of us were put in an awkward position - given Peter's apparently underlying agenda; which in retrospect seems to have been some sort of payback. I just wanted to have a forum in which to consult with and work through problems in league with others in varying fields of expertise. Although I'm a little relieved that he split. Peter's comments about admins was totally out of line...] (]) 12:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::: No it was the comments at the RfC that did it. I really could not believe what was going on. I badly misjudged the mood of Misplaced Pages, where there clearly is no possibility of change. I deeply apologise. I am doing my best to give this up for good. It is ]. Sorry to have dragged you all through this. ] (]) 13:21, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Accepted. It would have been a courtesy to have explained that on your talk before blanking all the pages, but ok. --] (]) 15:13, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

== Do we want change? ==

I've started a ball rolling here ] all comments welcome - whatever their view! ] (]) 07:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

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The issue you raised at ] has been extensively covered at the above article. If you would like to contribute, please do. However, Yahoo newsgroups might not be the most authoritative of references. Regards. ] (]) 14:29, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
:Hi Joop. Love the new 'upholstery job' on Beeblebrox's chart.;-) ] (]) 22:51, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
::Saw it on your page - a nice addition to the decor I think. Any idea what happened to Mae West's Lips?--] (]) 23:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry, you've lost me. You mean the actual Girona sofa? ] (]) 23:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
::::No - ] was a glorious picture of my furnishings until some those brigand stole it this evening. I've alerted the authorities and the best they can do is tell me they'll look out for suspicious wikipedians with lip shaped swag bags. It's all very distressing......--] (]) 23:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Aha - Msr Poirot. --] (]) 00:00, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::Sincere condolences! Real bummer when the repo man calls. ] (]) 00:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

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== Re: ] ==

Thanks for your message. The article ] was pretty much written like a blurb you would find on an art gallery's web page. There wasn't actually anything there that claimed notability, so I felt that it was eligible for speedy deletion. In my opinion the current deleted version is not salvageable, but I'm willing to restore it to the user's subpage if requested. <font color="DarkGray">...</font> ] <sub>]</sub> 18:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

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== Re: RfC ==
Thanks to the pointer to ]. I obviously had lost track of where this conversation had gone. -- ] (]) 18:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:Joops, is ] ok? ] ] 15:44, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== FYI test discussion system ==

Thought you might be interested in this, you mentioned ] how you feel about the inadequate talk page system: http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/07/improving-wikimedias-discussion-system/. ] (]) 03:50, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== Jesus College, Oxford ==

Fantastic, thanks for offering! I've put in a request for a plan ] with some links; let me know if you need more. Ideally, it'd mark the streets, chapel, hall, lodgings, fellows' library, fellows' garden and the Old Members' Building, since these are mentioned in the text. Best wishes, ]] 12:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

: isn't of great quality but has a scale at the top. I have a hard copy that I can scan and let you have on Monday if a better version would help. ]] 14:30, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

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Up an running :) ] <small>(])</small> 11:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== ACPD pages created ==

I've created two initial pages for the ACPD:
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Please add them to your watchlist, stop by, and so forth. The latter page has a couple of logistical issues that we should discuss sooner rather than later, so I'd appreciate if you could find some time to comment on them.

Thanks! ]&nbsp;<sup>]]&nbsp;]]</sup> 13:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

:If the ArbCom continues to support this council now that it's going, we can get to work without worrying about the bickering going on about it's existence. ] (]) 00:35, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

==ACPD==
I was responding to the person above me, who did not sign their post. ] (]) 21:44, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

== Query ==

Do you care to explain how a common civility warning is baiting? Is asking someone to treat other people with respect some form of provocation in your mind? It is the careless tossing around of the term "baiting" that makes it sound so hollow when somebody is actually doing it. ] 23:01, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:Has it ever worked? Have you ever given a civility warning to an established editor and they've responded "Gee, yeah, now you come to mention it I'm being a complete arse, thank you for pointing that out"? No, it's a prelude to your liberal use of the block button for something entirely undefined, I just wish you'd drop the pretence. --] (]) 23:21, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

It has worked two ways. One ways is that the person stops being uncivil, yes warnings do work sometimes. The other way is the person gets blocked. Both ways prevent Wikipedians from being subjected to abusive behavior, I prefer the first but either will do in the end. ] 05:09, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, with the rider, Chillum, that there's the obvious potential for blocking to bounce back at the people we're trying to protect, because it ''can'' enrage, cause resentment, especially in an experienced editor. May I suggest that while we need civility warnings, admins have the potential to protect us far more effectively by trying to engage with the root of the problem at the same time? I know it's not always possible, but don't you think it's worth encouraging? BTW, your heading here might have been ''just'' a little softer? ] ] 15:49, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::Dom't forget - editors here are supposed to have some useful level of intelligence (at least enough to bw able to pull themselves up when someone else says that you're misbehaving. Funny how many people cam't pick that up--] (]) 12:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

== Cleaning up for my socks. ==

Hi Joopercoopers, thanks, I missed that. I must be ''tired'' or perhaps a bit ''drunk'', Gentlemen was my first sock accusation by the now one month banned ] . I personally think there are so many sock farms here that we will never need to wash our socks again. I have at times when faced with a probable sock attack, have thought to myself.. I should get a sock farm and a couple of meat mates as admins and one as a crat, this is actually one of the things that I want to talk through here, users need only one account, all users in any position here need to declare and to be checked. Thanks. I like your introduction tonight and declare to you that I am Off2riorob...that is more than enough as you will know if you check my contributions..as it is I am occasionally kept awake by my involvment here. Best regards to you. (] (]) 00:19, 13 July 2009 (UTC))
:The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks - but you're welcome, well met. --] (]) 00:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
::The gentleman has quite clearly had, or still has another account, but he seems friendly enough to me? Not like a crazy nut sock. (] (]) 00:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC))

==re: From Joopercoopers ==

Hi Roger, now you're in the chair, can I remind you of regarding setting an agenda. Can we still expect a coherent list? Cheers --] (]) 23:33, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

:That rather depends on how everything plays out :) &nbsp;] <sup>]</sup> 06:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

== Reliable Sources Noticeboard ==

I apparently did not autowatch the talk page for changes after my posting. I just saw the maelstrom of the past month.

I saw you posted on the talk page -- Have you looked in on the actual Noticeboard? The vocal editors there seem to me to be very lacking in insight or clear logic. They appear to Utter Judgments first, and on demand will followup with reasons, often hokey and completely cooked up. You don't need to forum shop if you don't get the answer you like on that noticeboard: Just push back and the opinion will be reversed. Push back again if you don't like the reversal. If these are the watchdogs, god help us. They are petty bureaucrats only: actula intelligence about RS appears to reside only in the individual committed editors who bird-dog certain Big Topic articles. Unfortunately there SHOULD be an intelligent area for RS guidelines and specific opinions. As more and more reliable research becomes self-published and sometimes online only, it will become harder to distinguish what's reliable. What's required is some bright-eyed leadership.

But you seem to have noticed that. --] (]) 16:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

:No, I hadn't got that far and probably don't have the expertise to comment unless they ask about architecture. How disappointing. --] (]) 16:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

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I'm checking out the members of this new/proposed advisory committee (whatever it's called) to try to ascertain its makeup, and I came across your user page. Phenomenal photography. You have a great eye. If you're not a professional photog, you certainly should be. ] (]) 18:00, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks, glad you like them, it's just a hobby. More if you are inclined. --] (]) 19:19, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Furniture ==

Yeah, I mean "shelve". I'm pretty sure "table" works too, though :) --<font color="#cc6600">]</font><sup> <nowiki>(</nowiki><small><font color="#993300">]</font></small><nowiki>)</nowiki></sup> 13:32, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

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Would someone be a love and move ] to something like ]? Thanks --] (]) 17:02, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
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::Really? What an unholy pain in the ........ Ok. Will you delete that one then? Thanks--] (]) 17:09, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
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==The Seven Lamps of Architecture==
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Seems this article ] was previously deleted - would someone restore it to my userspace, so I can have a look at it? I can't find the AfD either - perhaps you could restore the talk page somewhere too, so I can resolve whatever the problems were. Cheers. --] (]) 14:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
:The article consisted of 11 meaningless consonants so a fresh start might be more appropriate. It was CSD hence the lack of an AFD. Hope that helps. '']]<span style="color:DarkOrange">Chequers''</span> 14:30, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
::Yep, thanks. --] (]) 14:31, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I asked another person to check (at the same time) - and they assured me that there is nothing worth restoring. Sorry couldn't help more. Cheers, <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">]]</span></small> 14:34, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
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== Jesus College map ==

Wow, looks great! Thanks for all your hard work. (Sorry not to reply earlier - had a few days off). Can I now be really, really fussy?!
*The top left corner of the college ought to stretch to Cornmarket – see on this map
*There shouldn't be a patch of green above the words "Market Street" (last time I was there, it was concreted over and used for rubbish bins from the kitchen - it might have been a garden years ago, but not now!)
*Just to the side of that, the gap in the wall adjoining Market Street ought to be filled
*Could you mark the back entrance from Ship Street, which I think would be the bulge to the left of letter C?
*Could you label the stretch of building immediately above letter A as the Principal's lodgings?
*Could you perhaps move letter G slightly to the left, perhaps under the nearest tree?
*Could you label the building to the left of the Habbukak Room as the Old Members' Buildings?
*Could you also label the Fellows' Garden (say between the 2nd and 3rd of the four vertical trees on the left-hand side) and the Fellows' Library (bottom left corner, west side, of 2nd quad)?
You'll have to teach me how to do this because my plan is to write a few more similar articles and you won't want me bugging you all the time for maps. What software do you use?

Many thanks once again, ]] 14:51, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

:Of course you can - give me 24hrs..... --] (]) 15:18, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::That is a great plan. ] (]) 11:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Thanks G. Fancy casting your eyes over ]? I'm nearly out of sources.--] (]) 11:54, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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== What's pushing your buttons?? ==
Just saw your revised user page. Need a stress pill?? Que pasa, brother?? --] (]) 22:53, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:Oh just another appalling WP day. . Headline "Good editor, philospher and gentleman, hauled over coals for minor infractions, pecked apart by wikipolitical venom from years back". Not pretty. --] (]) 23:04, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

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I rewrote my statement for better civility. Could you re-read it and sign if you like the new one? I IAR'ed your vote since I rewrote and didn't want to make a mess with strike throughs. Sorry for any inconvenience. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:51, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
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Hey Joopercoopers, what do you think about this...? ] 19:33, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

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I think that I misremembered and thought that Malleus did not sign up on the arbcom page after he offered to be a mentor, and I was wrong there as he had. But even though I thought that he had not signed up, I put him on the mentor/adviser list anyway, to satisfy SandyGeorgia. I had a falling out with Malleus way before that occurred though, when he made me disclose during my RFC the one and only email I sent to him, expressing my personal feeling of hurt at the time. I never understood why he did that. I disclosed the email at the RFC, but from then on I could never trust him. I agreed to his being a mentor/adviser, but to be honest, I was relieved when he requested to be removed as I lack a feeling of trust toward him, and the obscene and aggressive language on his talk page, as well as the joke blocks by admins and such, it was a relief not to have to watchlist his page. He was not a good model for me, as he could get away with language and and phrasing that I could not. He and I are just not a good fit. I prefer not to have anything to do with him. Regards, —] (]) 14:51, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
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