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Editing trouble

Hello. I don't understand what did I do wrong on my last edit on Jaska Raatikainen. Can you give me an explication? Loyal to Metal (talk) 07:42, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

You added influences with no references. Binksternet (talk) 13:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Greenwood

Hi, Could you please explain why you remove my edit? Rabbitsforever (talk) 19:28, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

KB edit

Hi! I noticed that you reverted my edits for the wiki page of Kathryn Bernardo. I overhauled the whole page as there are too many unnecessary info and clutter. I also corrected a lot of grammatical errors which I think devalues the page.

If you will compare my edit from the previous one, it is a big improvement as it is more coherent and concise. I also added present vital info as there are a lot that has been missed. If I may, I will revert my edits on that page as it took me hours to finish it. Rest assured that no critical info has been removed. Thank you. Itslouagain (talk) 14:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Whatever improvements you have planned for the biography, don't remove existing citations. The biography is supposed to be a summary of published material, and the citations represent that material. Binksternet (talk) 14:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

I will restore the sources on the previous edit. Thanks. Itslouagain (talk) 14:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Can I revert back my edit and restore back the sources previously present? I want to avoid edit warring so I'll ask for your permission. Itslouagain (talk) 14:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

You can copy the article into your userspace and work on it there. Your userspace sandbox would be at User:Itslouagain/sandbox. Binksternet (talk) 14:13, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

This is noted. All citations previously removed were restored. Page now grew to 77 references. Thanks. Itslouagain (talk) 14:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for keeping so many of the previous citations. Binksternet (talk) 15:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Please add "progressive soul" back to the Isley Brothers article

Source 166.181.255.91 (talk) 23:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, it's in the source you linked, but they say the group "dabbled" in it, which is not a wholehearted assertion of genre.

In any case, the genre "progressive soul" must be discussed in the article body before it can be listed in the infobox. Binksternet (talk) 23:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Then add it to the body. 166.181.255.91 (talk) 00:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Robert Christgau also referred to the Isleys as a progressive soul group in the 1970s. 166.181.255.91 (talk) 00:18, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Shane McRae edits

Hello I saw you reversed my edits on the Misplaced Pages pages for Shane McRae and Bad Teacher crediting him for a minor role in the unrated version of the film. I assume this is because he’s not credited on IMDB so I didn’t provide a source, but I actually looked at his page again and saw this photo still of him from the film from the scene in the unrated version of the film. Is this enough source to add the film to his page and the credits section of the Bad Teacher page? 2600:6C47:BCF0:9440:1B7:1B7F:B1C6:C415 (talk) 15:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a summary of published facts. If the fact hasn't been published, it is not for Misplaced Pages. We are not here to figure out all the missed stuff and make sure it gets in. Binksternet (talk) 22:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

You've Got To Hide Your Love Away

I've undone your removal of the Beach Boys' cover from the "cover versions" section as they did do a cover of this song, on a top 10 charting album, and there are citations provided which confirm this. There was no good reason to remove this info. 2603:8000:AC00:4300:99C2:F5DB:AC50:72B9 (talk) 18:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

WP:SONGCOVER is the good reason. The cover version doesn't get a boost from being on a Top 10 album; it has to be judged on its own merit. At the bare minimum, the cover version should be described as extraordinary by the media. Any charting cover version is certainly included. Binksternet (talk) 22:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Maybe if we were talking about a less notable group, but it seems to me that the fact that specifically The Beach Boys - being the most successful American band (of the decade and possibly of all time) and specifically in 1965 at the peak of their popularity and much-ballyhooed rivalry with The Beatles - recorded and released a cover of a Beatles song on an album that went to #6 in the US and #3 in the UK is noteworthy enough to warrant a sentence's mention on the song's page. It feels like a glaring enough omission NOT to include it that while reading this page I went "oh wow why isn't that here? I'll be a diligent Misplaced Pages user and add it." But since that's not enough for you (and apparently you're the ultimate arbiter here?) it was also released as a single in Japan in 1966 and here are two reviews which mention it as a standout track on the album and HERE are two Beatles(not Beach Boys)-centric websites which mention it outside of the context of the album . Can that be it please? 2603:8000:BDF0:B930:14DA:9FFB:7925:E78D (talk) 05:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't pretend to be the arbiter but I am quite active on Misplaced Pages, so my viewpoint gets more visibility.

The thing about the prominence of the Beach Boys is that, if their version of the song "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" wasn't mentioned by the media, then it was judged less important by the media. We would be giving it undue weight if we list it. The fact that the song was released as a single isn't good enough for WP:SONGCOVER. The single must have charted somewhere to be important. Binksternet (talk) 16:38, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Their version of the song was mentioned by the media, in the examples I provided as well as others. Even if it is "less important" than the original song (an impossible metric for any cover of a Beatles song to top), that doesn't mean it doesn't merit a mention in the article. Nowhere in the song cover guidelines does it say that a cover version must have charted as a single to be considered noteworthy. I'll quote your response to the user above: "Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a summary of published facts." It is a published fact that The Beach Boys, an extremely notable band, released a cover version of this song, which was also released as a single and has been discussed, as I've now provided multiple links attesting to. Per the songcover guidelines, a cover should EITHER be "discussed by a reliable source, showing that it is noteworthy in its own right. Merely appearing in an album track listing, a discography, etc. is not sufficient" OR meet the requirements for a standalone page. I'm not trying to create a standalone page for this or act like it deserves one. But I am providing much more evidence than the examples listed in the guidelines as insufficient ("an album track listing or discography"). This satisfies the first of the two criteria listed, which in and of itself is sufficient to merit its inclusion in the article. It would not be giving it "undue weight" but an entirely appropriate mention. In fact, I can go to many, many other musician's pages and find dozens, if not hundreds, of examples of less notable cover songs than this one being included, without issue. Since it bothers you so much and you've decided it's your prerogative, why haven't you gone and cleaned house on every other music page? You are pretending to be the arbiter here - the fact that you do this a lot doesn't mean that you're not doing it. You are being willfully obtuse and overly proscriptive in your own personal interpretation of these guidelines - to what end I can't imagine, unless it's to satisfy some personal bias. A cursory Google search of your username shows that you have quite a reputation as something of a Misplaced Pages bully, who uses the pretense of neutrality to inject your own personal bias into articles - and looking deeper into your edit history confirms this to be true. Given that, it's clear that there's no way I'm going to get you to do a 180 and admit that you're wrong here, and you'll just keep removing valid edits until people get fed up and leave - so that's what I'm doing, congratulations you win again. But I'll leave you with this: I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you didn't actually set out to codify your personal biases and beliefs in a space that's supposed to be a public resource of neutral information, and that you do in fact believe that you're acting in good faith in defense of said neutrality. Based on your edit history and your rightly-earned reputation, I would suggest that you might consider that you've lost sight of your (correct and ultimately noble) goal and have let your personal biases get in the way of doing what you clearly see as your job - to the detriment of Misplaced Pages and its reputation as a source of information. Nobody in the world is perfect, but you seem to have an entirely inflated and unhealthy sense of your own infallibility, which doesn't serve you (or anyone else) well. Just food for thought. 2603:8000:BDF0:B930:BAB7:4F59:D434:549 (talk) 01:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Sticking to what you did, your second edit which included two references was still a violation of WP:SONGCOVER. The Slowinski credit in the AV media citation doesn't refer to any prose analysis by Slowinski saying that this cover version was extraordinary in some manner. Instead, Slowinski and Boyd are credited as the researchers who figured out which song contained which musicians from which recording sessions. The songs are not praised or panned in a critical review, just listed in order as part of the album. That's not enough to get through the SONGCOVER requirement. Your second citation is an example of the song being performed live in concert, which again is not enough to increase its importance for Misplaced Pages to notice. Three things can convey importance: chart success, a major award nomination, or critical commentary in books, newspapers, magazines, etc.

Now about my actions: Misplaced Pages's original intent was to summarize a topic's most important points for the reader. It was never meant as a full and complete collection of every fact about a topic. Misplaced Pages's current policy continues with this idea: Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not says that the online encyclopedia "does not aim to contain all the information, data or expression known on every subject." There are other websites trying to fill that gap, for instance secondhandsongs is attempting to list every song cover no matter how obscure. Misplaced Pages's refusal to include every fact is the spirit which drives my removal of the lesser known song covers from song articles. Binksternet (talk) 05:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Willow Smith

You're calling me out on “awful sourcing” and restored a version that uses a damn YouTube video as a source. Is this a joke? ThisIs00k (talk) 17:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I got that one backwards. Sorry. Binksternet (talk) 17:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Another User:MariaJaydHicky sock?

Hi there Binksternet, I came across some edits from the above User:ThisIs00k today and noticed that it felt very familiar to this LTA: WP:LTA/MJH. A bit of genre warring / changes going on, and a heavy focus on R&B music articles. I have already published an SPI report over here, but anyways would you agree with my findings that this is another likely sock of MariaJaydHicky? — AP 499D25 (talk) 01:12, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, someone's sock. It's also too close to the existing username User:This0k and should be blocked as a spoof. Binksternet (talk) 02:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

That is not me. This0k (talk) 06:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Unhelpful edit summaries

I don't think "Nope nope nope" and "Rv image vandalis," are helpful edit summaries when reverting good faith edits, which is what these appear to be. Is there something I'm missing here? — Qwerfjkltalk 18:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Loosen up. Those edit summaries were meant to alert longstanding editors that consensus was being violated. I'm not going to change my style for the few times I choose to sound the alarm. Binksternet (talk) 18:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

And why would longstanding editors need to be alerted? I'm just saying, a less bitey approach might have been better. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Question about an author and his book

Hey. It's been a minute. I was pressed about this author by the name of Ian Hall and his books on One-Hit Wonders of the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s and whether or not he could be used as a source for the List of One-Hit Wonders in the United States wiki page. He is from Scotland and now lives with his wife in Topeka, Kansas. His book includes chart data from different countries, primarily building off of the Billboard Hot 100 in the states. Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 22:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

The problem with his books is that they are self-published through CreateSpace. That means WP:USERG is the applicable guideline. The books are not considered a reliable source unless Ian Hall can be argued as a notable expert on music topics. Is he famous for music analysis or criticism? Binksternet (talk) 02:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

I can't say he's famous from the looks of it. Even if he knows his stuff really well. I could be inaccurate on that though. Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 02:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

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A need for some privacy

Could I contact you via e-mail over a Misplaced Pages editing matter concerning another editor, that I think should not be open for all to see, at least for the time being ? Nothing too sinister or deep, but you know how it goes. Or you can contact me on derekrbullamore@yahoo.co.uk, whichever suits you. Thanks. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:23, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I will ping you offline. Binksternet (talk) 20:28, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I presume you mean off-Wiki ! - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:47, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

You presume correctly. Binksternet (talk) 20:50, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Am not surprised to see an old favourite editor, and a new favourite, collaborating. Cheers, both. Press on. 73.110.70.75 (talk) 05:49, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

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Hey friend.

You might look back to the Tehanu article, and the hodge-podge "Focus, pacing, style, and interpretation" section. There is a lot of unsourced essay content there, that I simply can't bold-edit away myself (because editing from IP, and knowing what it likely will trigger). And good working alongside you today. Cheers. A former logging editor and Prof. 73.110.70.75 (talk) 05:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Cheers. I'll take another look. Binksternet (talk) 06:11, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

I restored the shorter plot section that I had copyedited. Per WP:NOVELPLOT, the plot section should not exceed 700 words. Per MOS:PLOT, the plot section is written in the narrative present, which is a change I enacted. If the plot is very briefly summarized elsewhere, for instance in the lead section, then this summary is written from the author's perspective. Binksternet (talk) 06:32, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

I support your redactive edits to move Tehanu away from its overly long Plot, to hit ca. 700 words. I would argue that the Plot now opens with a name of principle character only revealed with certainty later in the novel—at open, only hints appear tht the principle character is Tenar; she is identified as Goha. I think the Plot summary should use Goha, until the point in the narrative that it is revealed that Goha is the preceding novel's Tenar. (But I will not be the one to even partially revert your edit.) And still believe that the "Focus, pacing, style, interpretation" section should get your honing attention (for it contains a lot of unsourced editorial content). Cheers. 73.110.70.75 (talk) 10:37, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

808s & Heartbreak

It's look like MariaJaydHicky is genre warring in 808s & Heartbreak . TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 07:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Socking as a lifetime career. Binksternet (talk) 07:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Do we have research into what motivates LTAs? In this case someone made an attempt at some point User_talk:MariaJaydHicky2. Polygnotus (talk) 14:59, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

It would benefit the community greatly to know what is their motivation. We might be able to use that information to redirect their energies.

That particular discussion in your link showed that MJH was pleading innocent at the same time she was block evading with IPs and socks. Pop psychology suggests that this kind of lying comes from narcissism's disconnect with shame or guilt. Anna Frodesiak tried to guide MJH gently toward Wikia, but MJH ignored the hint. I don't know what we could say or do to get a narcissist to go away to spend their time elsewhere. Binksternet (talk) 17:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't have much faith in pop psychology. But would surprise me if no one has researched this topic yet. I'll ask around. Polygnotus (talk) 20:02, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Thank you for your infinite patience when efficiently dealing with the Long-time abusers over at WP:AFC/R and at your own talk page. LR.127 (talk) 14:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Appreciated. Binksternet (talk) 21:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

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Interesting concept. I'll take advantage some day. Binksternet (talk) 01:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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Quick question

So there's this LTA by the name of User:MidAtlanticBaby who has been going around and copy-pasting some story usually attacking other editors or seeking attention from admins and whatnot, over and over and over again, across the help desk, teahouse and various other help forums or noticeboards (example diff). I've noticed that the "Demographics vandal" you've been dealing with lately also does something incredibly similar as well, where they repeatedly spam some big block of text on the help desk and/or teahouse, which all later have to be revdelled just like MAB's posts. I've never seen any of the posts by the demographics vandal for myself before, so I'm not exactly sure as to whether these two names are two different people or not. I'm quite very familiar with MAB but not so much with the demographics vandal. Anyway, can you confirm with me whether these are two different persons? That's all. Thanks! — AP 499D25 (talk) 06:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

The person I call the Demographics vandal is a complex case, with more than one area of interest. I wouldn't be surprised to find they have other disruptive behavior patterns than the ones listed at Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/Demographics vandal.

I've seen some of the MAB disruption but I haven't studied it. I cannot confirm these are two different people. Binksternet (talk) 06:46, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

I see, got it. — AP 499D25 (talk) 06:50, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Inquiry about an article created at the English language Vikidia

Good morning! My name is Christian, and I'm an administrator on the English language children's encyclopedia called Vikidia. This morning, an article has been created, by someone using your WP username, and it's about you.

Could I ask if you have authorised this, please? If not, the article will be deleted as a violation of BLP. It features material taken word for word, from your userpage here, and is unsourced.

Many thanks for your attention, Dane|Geld 09:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

I did not authorize it. Thank you in advance for deleting it. Binksternet (talk) 14:26, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) DaneGeld, I see it has not been deleted yet, and the user "Binksternet" should surely be blocked. They have now made a second edit; note the edit summary. Bishonen | tålk 19:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC).

Thanks, I'll remove it now, and indef the creator. Sorry for the delay! Dane|Geld 19:46, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

To confirm, the user / vandal impersonating you at the English Vikidia has been indefinitely blocked for impersonation, our recent change logs indicate you did not authorise the article, and that too has been deleted and create protected to admin only. The userpage has been wiped, and the contents of the user's edit summaries have been suppressed within our logs.

I'd like to apologise for the delay in dealing with this, but I have been without internet for part of today, and been unable to get on here. If you ever wish to have a presence on the site, please leave a message on my talk page here, and I'll unlock the userpage and its associated talk, as well as unblock the account. With regards, Dane|Geld 20:24, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt action. I will consider your kind offfer. Binksternet (talk) 20:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Origin of the term "Lost Cause"

You're right that I did too much original research. I'll try to redo it referencing this source that has good info, including a section on the origin of the term and several of the sources I included. https://commons.emich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2444&context=theses That thesis suggests that Pollard might have picked up the term from an article in a rival Memphis paper in 11/16/1865, but I have a source that shows he used the term himself a day earlier than that. Pollard himself wrote in 1872 that he suggested the title to the publisher, but he was using the term himself even before the book was written. I don't have the Ulbrich book, but will try to get a copy. Brooklinehistory (talk) 21:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Cheers, and thanks for having a good attitude. Binksternet (talk) 22:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 174.208.225.98 (talk) 01:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC).

"Too specific" isn't a real standard. Don't randomly delete content without attempting discussion please.

Hi. This is regarding your deletion of the section on the Sonoma County, California page. There is a section on the talk page for discussion, but you did not participate, either before, during, or after your deletion. Although it appears to be a common practice to delete the edits and additions of newcomers, it is still against Misplaced Pages rules and guidelines. Please follow the rules. If you're going to assert that content should be deleted, discuss it on the talk page. I did that, multiple times in fact. I was very patient. I was very careful. I spent a lot of time, and did a lot of work. "Too specific" is not a real standard, and I do intend to revert your edit. Magnolia did in fact consistently blatantly and deliberately violate Misplaced Pages's rules. The fact that there was an actual torture ring conducted by the Sonoma County government is in fact notable, whether or not people think it should be covered up is irrelevant. The fact that the person who organized the lawsuit against the County for the torture ring in 2015 was shot in the face with a crowd control "stingball" grenade is also notable. Again, please respect Misplaced Pages's rules. I don't know how much simpler I can put it. Don't delete content without participating in discussion. There has been a section on the talk page for more than 18 months. I put it there, to give people a forum to discuss the sections that I eventually added, after diligence, and patience. 18 month old invalid arguments do not weigh on consensus. Bad faith deletions do not weigh on consensus. "Too specific" isn't even applicable, firstly, and secondly it's plainly not a real standard. It's not valid. The content is notable, and is properly sourced. Merely throwing in your hat with Magnolia to cover up extremely heinous acts of brutality because you personally want the article to read like a tourist brochure does not weigh on consensus. You need a valid reason. The fact that you didn't participate in the talk page seems to implicate a lacking thereof. The page is about the County. The content relates to the County and it is not reasonably disputable that it should be in the article, if the article is to be considered objective. The article is not a tourist brochure.Isonomia01 (talk) 11:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

History of Chinese Americans

I'm not going to revert your edit, but I will argue that the text added to History of Chinese Americans is inappropriate. Beyond the simple problems of bolding of headers, meta-analysis like " While the page currently focuses on the legislative details, it is essential to explore the broader social and political dynamics that led to its passage." is a discussion of the page and should be on the talk page, not in the article. I also suspect that quite a lot of that text is a copyvio and it has some fairly serious WP:NPOV issues. Can you take a closer look? Thanks, Opolito (talk) 07:37, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I'll look. I guess we had an edit conflict, but I didn't get a notice saying so. I thought the person's contribution was very flawed and so I removed the worst bits. You thought it was very flawed and removed all of it. I might end up agreeing more with your solution. Binksternet (talk) 15:43, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

WTF DUDE????

Dude Why TF are u reverting my edits. The video clearly is credible as MrBeast shows proof himself and u literally did not look at it HiGuys69420 (talk) 21:33, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

I did look at it, and what I saw was some clowning around in the studio. But the single actually has MrBeast credited on Hi Hat, so you got me there. Binksternet (talk) 22:58, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Flag Icons for 1920's Time Magazine Covers

Is the flag icons next to names on the list of time magazine articles not the correct format? I saw you also removed the flags for the other covers as well. Bicufo (talk) 12:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

As I understand MOS:FLAG and Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Icons, the flag should only be used if the person is coming to the list as a representative of their country, for instance athletes coming to the Olympics would show the flag of the country they are competing for. If a list of people is not associated with official representation of the country, then flags are not appropriate. Or if multiple politicians got together to discuss world affairs, they might be shown with the flag they represent. The Time magazine cover is not an athletic competition and it's not a convention of international politicians. Binksternet (talk) 15:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm going to need some evidence for this claim

I am not "evading" anything. Now surely for you to accuse me of block evasion, you must have some real strong evidence, chief. Let's have it. 166.181.250.216 (talk) 22:17, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Sugar Bear/Archive which lists a ton of IPs in your range, and identical behavior. Binksternet (talk) 22:18, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Possible sock puppet of MariaJaydHicky

I don't know if this user is related to MariaJaydHicky, but it appears to be the case . TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 09:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

I see gaming the system of protection by gaining autoconfirmed status then immediately reverting a protected page, in this case the Nicki Minaj bio four days after first registering, showing in this edit that the user has been here before the hip hop article was moved from Hip hop music to Hip-hop which happened on December 2. The user account was created on December 17, so if they were a completely new user, they would only know the hyphenated hip-hop link, and they wouldn't try and correct it. Binksternet (talk) 16:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Your recent edits make no sense.

The other day, I added the punk rock categories to the pages for speed metal and death metal, but you removed them. After reading the pages for those genres, I saw no mention of hardcore punk, so I removed them from the Hardcore punk template, but you added them back. What is the meaning of that? 2601:C7:C280:14C0:C9F4:40DD:A5FB:6428 (talk) 22:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Your genre edits have been based on looking around at other Misplaced Pages articles. I have pointed this problem out repeatedly to you, saying that other Misplaced Pages articles cannot be considered reliable per WP:USERG. Back in 2021 I advised you to read some musicology books instead, but you don't appear to be able or willing to do this. That's why I have a giant bug up my ass about your edits. Binksternet (talk) 04:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Like I said, though, the pages for speed metal and death metal say nothing about hardcore punk, nor does the page for progressive rock say anything about electronic rock. I've seen you revert my edits for similar reasoning. 2601:C7:C280:14C0:C4D7:C6CC:2AA6:5B27 (talk) 16:23, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Here you are again referring to Misplaced Pages pages as reliable sources. ARGHH. Binksternet (talk) 16:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

It was a lack of sources I was going on. 2601:C7:C280:14C0:C4D7:C6CC:2AA6:5B27 (talk) 17:03, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Various questions .. but for starters ..

Why would you revert the italicization of hazzan. And why do it with zero edit summary - do you really believe it to be vandalism? 184.153.21.19 (talk) 08:53, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

You added a borough right next to the note that says no boroughs. Binksternet (talk) 15:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Why if you disagree with that would you revert all of the other - I think facially proper - edits? And why without an edit summary. I thought we are supposed to use an edit summary, in particular when reverting non-vandalism (and of course where it is confusing as most of the material you reverted you have not mentioned you had a problem with). And (please tell me .. I'm just unaware of it) is there a rule against reflecting someone was born in Brooklyn? As we do in Sandy Koufax and Jay-Z and Michael Jordan and Joan Rivers? Also, less important I imagine, what is the thinking (Brooklyn is as large as many cities and has a character perhaps different than some of the other NYC boroughs), and will you delete Brooklyn from those bios as well? Thank you. --184.153.21.19 (talk) 17:54, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Infobox_musical_artist#birth_place says to list the city. People have interpreted that to mean nothing below the city level, as some rappers were starting to list which neighborhood or even which apartment project. Local consensus at David Draiman was clearly and explicitly against listing the borough, so you would want to take the issue up with the frequent participants there. Binksternet (talk) 15:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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I forgot to ping you

Regarding this discussion. I know it sounds nuts, but you may want to withdraw Jane Fonda's Workout from the current GAN listing for nine months or so, because at that time it will be eligible for DYK for a second time in five years, per the new rules. Just something to consider. FWIW, if you decide to do that, I would be happy to review it at that later date. Viriditas (talk) 08:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I was away from the keyboard for too long to respond in time. Binksternet (talk) 01:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jane Fonda's Workout

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Now Yearbooks not announced

I have one concern. Why aren't the Now Yearbooks announced yet? Renebird100 (talk) 19:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Because they haven't got around to it? I don't know. If you're talking about this unsupported edit of yours with question marks for the year, then the answer is that you have not provided a supporting citation to show that Now Music is releasing another yearbook. It's too soon. Don't stick conjecture into the encyclopedia. Binksternet (talk) 15:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Correcting Mistakes On Misplaced Pages

I'm here to correct misinformation on here. 148.252.144.128 (talk) 19:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm upset with you for not taking corrections all the time any time every time for good today. I'm fed up. I correct misinformation here. 148.252.144.128 (talk) 20:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Since you are effectively banned because of a long history of abuse and block evasion detailed at Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/Frenchie vandal, you cannot participate on Misplaced Pages at all. Your new IP range of Special:Contributions/148.252.144.0/21 will likely be blocked. Binksternet (talk) 20:23, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Binksternet I regret abusing Misplaced Pages when I wasn't thinking. 148.252.144.128 (talk) 20:58, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm sorry for a long history of abuse and regret having a block envasion detailed at Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/Frenchie vandal. 148.252.144.128 (talk) 21:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Disorder in the Falkands War

Happy New Year, Binks. Long time no talk. These pages:

• Falkands War order of battle: British naval forces

• Falkands War order of battle: British ground forces

• Falkands War order of battle: British air forces

• Falkands War order of battle: Argentine naval forces

• Falkands War order of battle: Argentine ground forces
• Falkands War order of battle: Argentine air forces

All misspell Falklands in their titles. I tried to fix, but it looks to be above my paygrade.

Season’s cheer.  R/ the JMOprof ©¿©¬ 21:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Cheers to you and Happy New Year. Binksternet (talk) 21:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Belated thanks. I forgot about the talk pages. Didn’t realize they were separate entities.

New topic: Isn’t one of your specialties Australian forces in World War 2?

 R/ the JMOprof ©¿©¬ 18:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

That has to be another dude. Binksternet (talk) 12:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

OK, Binks. Thanks.  R/ the JMOprof ©¿©¬ 16:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Edward Furlong

If you had checked the article references and the talkpage before reverting, you would have seen that most of the biographical material is already in the existing cites. In particular the People Magazine article from August 1991. The point about his surname is re-confirmed in the interview link which I added to the references section. Which you also removed.

The other edits regarding his work are all already supported in the cited material and are nearly all minor copyedits for clarity and garmmar.

Please check your facts before editing or reverting other people's work. This is not the first time you have acted in this manner.

172.97.154.59 (talk) 23:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep the discussion centralized at Talk:Edward Furlong. Binksternet (talk) 23:42, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

2804:D45:962E:B900:8C3C:8A57:D4A6:AF18 adding death dates

Thanks for reporting that to AIV. I did some digging into the other IPs as well. They occupy a broad range: 2804:D45:9600:::0/40. I've seen primarily vandalism from that range for the past 3 years, adding death dates. Could you ping me when this recurs? I may want to consult with some other people to see what we should do to prevent future disruption, but I hesitate to put such wide range blocks down. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 00:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Will do.

The /40 range would be a good fit, with very little collateral damage. Binksternet (talk) 00:11, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

It appears that User:Rsjaffe went ahead with a /64 block which appears safe. But if you look at the /40 range, Special:Contributions/2804:D45:962E:B900:0:0:0:0/40, it appears there are some good edits in there. I didn't check if somethinng between a /40 and a /64 might work. EdJohnston (talk) 19:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Edit Warring

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Frenchie Vandal

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/148.252.145.11

Can this IP's edits be mass reverted? Is it possible? Theofunny (talk) 19:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes and no. You can revert the IP per WP:EVADE, but you should look at the contribution and see whether it helps advance the encyclopedia. And if you simply revert the IP, you might leave previous Frenchie stuff in place, for instance at Draft:Serious Truth where I reverted a big group of Frenchie IPs at once rather than just reverting the latest one. Binksternet (talk) 19:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Is the Frenchie vandal serious on his promise to improve his behaviour on wikipedia? Theofunny (talk) 19:28, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

He has improved slightly in eight years; see Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/Frenchie vandal for some examples of his past disruption. Many of the past disruptive patterns have been corrected. But his idea of improvement does not always fit with policy and manual of style. For instance, the Frenchie vandal recently changed "British" to "English" nationality for a Black person, which can be confusing because "English" can also refer to English people, the ethnicity which is of course light-skinned and called "White". If we say that the person holds British nationality then the confusion is absent. Binksternet (talk) 19:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Sorry. 148.252.132.217 (talk) 09:25, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Australian electrical engineers

I've started a discussion here for your info. Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Engineering#Category:Australian_electrical_engineers. LibStar (talk) 00:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Dylan Florida

Just a heads up that he's active again today. I opened another SPI to hopefully get another rangeblock. . Home Lander (talk) 00:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Binksternet (talk) 01:52, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Killing Me Softly With His Song

Binksternet-- I can't get on the email you sent me to my other "wikipedia name" TBerman1963... so I'll just ask here... To the song "killing me softly with his song" page, there is a whole section trying to figure out exactly how the song came about. (This[REDACTED] page and youtube are the only places where this seems uncertain). Anyway, I found an actual video clip that appeared on national television, with the original person who sang the song explaining to Mike Douglas how it was written, in her own words. Why would you cut that out? The only reason to leave it out would be If the editor of the page felt it contradicted result he wanted. And that would not make for a very good historian. This is not me "Warring". This is me objectively helping. I don't know what your profession is but-- I know for certain you have no inside knowledge of this song or the process that took place- that's 100% correct--and regardless of what albums you mixed in Northern Calfirnia-- I don't think you even have any insight at all into theoretically how Hollywood or the music business works at this level-- that's also clear. So I'm giving you information right from the horse's mouth at the very time it happened-- not 25 yrs later, looking back. Marshalllevenstein1963 (talk) 17:48, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

I talked about this issue at Talk:Killing Me Softly with His Song#YouTube clip. You can see what I said, and share your own thoughts. Binksternet (talk) 17:59, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Outlawz

Hey! I’m the one who edited the Outlawz page if you check Young Noble’s instagram he clearly states that he’s retiring from the group and they are no longer a group! Thanks for fixing the image though didn’t mean to ruin that. VROTUP (talk) 07:04, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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Removing the word studio

why do u keep removing the word studio 110.168.236.95 (talk) 01:41, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

I only remove it when it is not necessary, when removing it does not change the meaning. The reason is that I like to see concise text. Binksternet (talk) 04:42, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

But all the other albums use studio 125.24.38.84 (talk) 08:41, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Not the ones I have assessed as not needing it. Especially if it's the artist's first album, without a previous mixtape or EP or live album, is the word "studio" not needed. It would be their debut album of any kind. Binksternet (talk) 15:05, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

The Time (band)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

This is going nowhere.

You have reverted an edit for blanking in the absence of blanking. A supporting reason for the edit was provided in the edit notes, but no one appears to be reading the notes. If editors are reading the notes, they are either not comprehending them or are ignoring them. 74.87.19.246 (talk) 01:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

You removed a good citation for the genre. Why? Binksternet (talk) 01:42, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

The citation was removed for two reasons, as stated in the edit notes: citations do not belong in infoboxes and a citation (in the instant case used for the purpose of a definition) attached to something with its own article is unnecessary. 74.87.19.246 (talk) 01:48, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Five days ago you were blocked as Special:Contributions/104.173.25.23. Have you figured out why yet? Perhaps it's because you keep insisting on removing a relevant and useful citation when the better option would be to move the citation from the infobox where you don't like it to the article body where it would continue to do its job. Binksternet (talk) 02:01, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

The cite is, as explained, unnecessary. Have you figured out why yet? And I was not blocked. 74.87.19.246 (talk) 02:16, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

The cite is relevant, and there is no good reason for removing it. Apparently only you think it should be removed. You do not have consensus on your side. Binksternet (talk) 02:26, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Consensus by what appears to be inexperienced editors? That's a strong case. You're a longtime, experienced editor; I expect better of you. Apparently, you still haven't figured out why the cite is unnecessary, despite my explaining it to you. 74.87.19.246 (talk) 02:33, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't see any policy supporting your removal of the relevant cite. Is it personal? Do you dislike Dennis Hunt, the author of the piece? Both of your IP addresses are from Northridge, including the one that got blocked, making you an area local, so perhaps you don't want to see Hunt cited for your own reasons. Binksternet (talk) 02:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Now you're speculating while ignoring the reasons for the removal. As an experienced editor, you know that cites do not belong in an infobox. The newspaper article itself has nothing to do with the removal, as stated previously. Perhaps you or others love Dennis Hunt, and are hell-bent on keeping the article. I can speculate, too, but speculation has no place here. I have clearly explained the valid reasons for the edit.

And what of the other constructive edits which were tossed with the bathwater? If the only issues were the two, the others should've survived. Lastly, please stop your assertions of sock puppetry. 74.87.19.246 (talk) 02:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Rock Genres

Ok! If you wanna know a fact Alternative pop is a fusion genre of Alternative & Pop while Alternative R&B is a fusion genre of Alternative & R&B, while Bedroom pop falls under the Dream Pop category which Dream pop is a subgenre of Alternative rock! Which I’ve read the articles! Fight me all you want but really in the end you know I’m right! Check out the article Alternative pop & Alternative R&B PopPunkFanBoi69 (talk) 00:37, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Really? Your research is Misplaced Pages? Misplaced Pages is not reliable per WP:USERG. Read some books about genres. Binksternet (talk) 00:40, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is also a good source! What is your problem?! Do you want a turf war?! PopPunkFanBoi69 (talk) 00:54, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Like why edit Misplaced Pages if you hate it so much?! That’s just asinine! PopPunkFanBoi69 (talk) 01:02, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Look I don’t wanna start a war but I’m a big fan of Rock music & artists like Billie Eilish is considered Alternative on Apple Music because she’s Alternative pop & if you look at the article Alternative pop it is a section of the Misplaced Pages article Alternative rock! If you like, try it out yourself! Bedroom pop is similar to Dream pop which is a subgenre of Alternative rock! I’m not arguing I’ve been studying rock music for 2 years now & I could be a teacher for Rock music! I’m not here to start wars! I’m here to collaborate & add missing information & accurate information as possible! Thank you for your patience! PopPunkFanBoi69 (talk) 02:16, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Word on the 'demographics vandal'

Hello Binksternet,

The 'demographics vandal' returned on the IP range 2600:6C50:7E00:7EC:0:0:0:0/64 yesterday shortly after expiration of the previous two-week rangeblock, resulting in it getting blocked again after someone had reported them at AIV.

Almost all of the edits they had made during that time had been reverted, except for on the page American cuisine, where they made these two edits. Okay, I was about to revert that too, but then I was stopped due to it being followed up by the Uzbekistan IP address 91.204.239.55, which had made these six edits. One of the things they did is add a full paragraph of content beneath the header 'Native American cuisine' that had been added in by that California /64 IPv6 range.

My question is, do you know if it's the same person? It's highly unusual to me that this Uzbekistan IP follows up so soon with the addition of content to a header that was put in by the demo LTA from the IPv6 range. I can't tell if it's a different person, or the same person maybe using a proxy from Uzbekistan to continue the edit.

Regards, — AP 499D25 (talk) 01:41, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

I will look at that. Binksternet (talk) 01:42, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

It's clear the different IPs are the same person because they are bad at writing. They share the problematic behavior of changing just a few words in the source material to create a copyright violation from too-close paraphrasing. This person uses proxies or VPNs, so I would not get hung up on IP geolocation. Behavior is the key to identifying this person. Binksternet (talk) 01:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

I see, thanks!

And by the way, I've noticed that the person in the thread above has been edit warring and making attacks after warning, shall I make an ANI or ANEW report or are you fine with doing it yourself? — AP 499D25 (talk) 02:15, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

(Nevermind, I already did after seeing their admission of sockpuppetry in the latest reply on their talk page.) — AP 499D25 (talk) 02:39, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

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Edward Furlong

It has been more than 2 weeks since I responded to your comments on the talkpage, addressing all the concerns that you raised, and you have still not responded. I am assuming this means that your concerns have been addressed? If not, please feel free to comment further. 172.97.152.231 (talk) 05:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Jack Johnson Edits

You restored a revision I removed which claims Jack Johnson is most well known for his song "Upside Down", with the reasoning that it's his only song to go platinum in the US. According to this RIAA page, "Banana Pancakes" also has platinum certification. In addition to the points made in my original comments regarding his charting history, both "Better Together" and "Banana Pancakes" have more Spotify streams, and according to setlist.fm, "Upside Down" is only his 16th most commonly performed song. As far as I can tell, the only piece of supporting evidence (besides the fact that it's one of his two platinum songs) is that the music video is the most viewed on his Vevo channel. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks! DC-SQUID (talk) 19:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Billboard says that "Upside Down" is JJ's biggest US chart hit, staying on the Hot 100 for 20 weeks. "Banana Pancakes" didn't make it to that chart, showing a major disparity in favor of "Upside Down". Another undeniable problem for "Banana Pancakes" is that the media don't write much about it. One would think that if this is his biggest song, there would be something written about it in a reliable source. Not counting the cooks who refer to the song in passing as they list their banana pancake recipe. Binksternet (talk) 19:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Touché re: recipes. To clarify, I'm not arguing in favor of "Banana Pancakes", "Better Together", or any other song or album; rather, I'm arguing that it's a weighty claim to make when there evidence in favor of other works. Other songs have been streamed more, other songs reached higher positions on the Hot 100, other albums charted longer on the Hot 200 than "Curious George (Soundtrack)", "Sleep Through The Static" charted longer and was at No. 1 longer, et cetera. Since the point is debatable, shouldn't the claim be removed? DC-SQUID (talk) 22:16, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

The claim can be trimmed back to just the chart facts. Binksternet (talk) 22:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Regarding the redirect 'Melodic rock (disambiguation)':

This is just a gentle notice that I have tagged Melodic rock (disambiguation) with CSD G14 as it is a page with a title ending in "(disambiguation)" that redirects to a page that is not a disambiguation page. Regards, — AP 499D25 (talk) 01:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! Binksternet (talk) 01:27, 23 January 2025 (UTC)