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| Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly{{#if:|, as you are doing at ]}}. If you continue, you may be ] from editing Misplaced Pages. Note that the ] prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for ], even if they do not technically violate the ]. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you.<!-- Template:3RR --> ] (]) 05:00, 30 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| ::I think there is something I will have to explain to you. You are the one who reverts peoples edits and removes referenced and absolutely legitimate materials;not once, not twice but many times.You were even blocked for violating three revert rule by Husond. From someone who is engaged in that kind of violations and many other controversial edits - as one can see on your talk page - I think it is time for you to stop posting this spam like messages on every talk page and look at your own edit history. What you are doing is wrong. Stop warning innocent people against violating three revert rule when you were blocked for the very same violation just recently. --] (]) 14:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Unblocked == | |||
| I have unblocked your account so you can file an unblock request at ]. The condition is strict: outside of this talkpage, you are not allowed to edit anywhere but in that AN discussion. OK? Good luck, ] (]) 03:35, 15 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Re. Xizer == | |||
| :{{ping|Drmies}} looks like my AN thread was archived without being formally closed. Can it be brought back so others may see and comment on it?--] (]) 07:31, 31 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| User blocked after violating the three revert rule, again. Thanks for reporting. Regards, <strong><font style="color: #082567">]</font>]<font style="color: #082567">]</font></strong> 01:16, 31 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Satt 2, you have been unbanned as a result of {{https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Standard_offer_unblock_request this discussion}}. You are hereby topic banned from all things ] for a period of 12 months. You are formally cautioned that resuming contentious editing will see your editing career being brought to a very quick end. If you have any questions let me know but I strongly advise you that if you have any doubt its better not to commit the post. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 08:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
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== AN == | ||
| ==Notice of noticeboard discussion== | |||
| Hi Satt, that image does not have any author information or assurances that it is not a copyright violation. In such a high profile article we have to make sure we are positive the image can be used by us. --]] 22:21, 31 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ] There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.<!--Template:AN-notice--> - ] (]) 21:45, 8 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
| <div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px"> ] You have been ''']''' ''']''' from editing for ]. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may ] by first reading the ], then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx|" code. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here ~~~~''}}. ] (]) 05:14, 10 February 2017 (UTC)</div><!-- Template:uw-block --> | |||
| == ] missing description details == | |||
| Indefinitely blocked per consensus in the above thread at ]. Block appeal options are in the template above. -- ] (]) 05:14, 10 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
| *Satt2, I'm sorry that I missed the discussion--but I do not see what I could have contributed to it, no matter what my opinion on the various edits might have been. ] (]) 05:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
| <div style="padding:5px; background-color:#E1F1DE;">'''Dear uploader:''' The media file you uploaded as ] is missing a description and/or other details on its image description page. If possible, please add this information. This will help other editors to make better use of the image, and it will be more informative for readers. | |||
| ::The extents and limits of the topic ban were obvious - it was "all things Georgia"; something easy to understand and not deliberately vindictive (I recall Russia-topic-banned Russavia being forbidden by Sandstein from even uploading a PD photo of a non-Russia-related subject - a street scene in Cuba - just because the photographer had been a Russian citizen). Moreover, the actual content of the edits that breached the ban seem to display the same pov editing aims found throughout Satt2's editing career and the career of all his many socks. ] (]) 17:06, 2 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| If you have any questions please see ]. Thank you. ]] 22:22, 31 August 2008 (UTC)</div><!-- Template:Add-desc --> | |||
| Hi, where did you get this image? <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">]</font> (<font color="#156917">]</font>)(<font color="#156917">]</font>) 22:23, 31 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Image:Sarah-palin.jpg listed for deletion == | |||
| An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, ], has been listed at ]. Please see the ] to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|Thank you.}} ] (]) 07:30, 11 September 2008 (UTC) <!-- Template:Idw --> | |||
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| {{uw-3rr}} Reference ] --] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 16:27, 19 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Reversion of changes made to ]. == | |||
| You recently removed maps from the ] article. I have reversed those changes, but am inviting you to discuss and achieve consensus here: ] ] (]) 19:06, 19 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Map of ethnic groups == | |||
| Satt 2, I was going to write a message on your talk page, but you preceded me. I noticed you used insulting language towards me ("Your ignorant mind", "NOONE gives a slightest f***", "STOP EDIT WARRING !", etc.). I wasn't going to use insulting language myself, and, of course, I will not do that now. That's not my style and, in any case, it is ] by the Misplaced Pages. The hysterical tone and flawed arguments you employed in your message on ] make it clear that you are not qualified to carry on a reasonable conversation on this subject. However, I am going to pretend I did not read what you just wrote, and try and convince you of why you are incorrect, using a civil tone and logical argumentation. | |||
| You seem to imply that the includes ] and ], when in fact only small corners of those countries are displayed because of the particular shape of the map. This is a map of the ]s of the ], of which ] is the largest and most representative. That is why it makes perfect sense to show the ] of ] within the wider context of the entire ] region. This has nothing to do with whether you personally care about Iran or ]! | |||
| You also ask: "If this was a section about the US demographics, why the hell would I include the entire North America, why??!!!". I wonder if you have ever seen or worked with maps of the ] of the ], which as you know, includes ]. I have, many times in fact, since ] is my field of study, and I assure you that these maps do indeed usually include ] and ] (and maybe even ]). Why? Precisely, because you cannot understand the distribution of the ] or ] languages in the United States, if you don't also see their distribution in ], and you cannot understand the distribution of the ] or ] languages in the United States, if you don't also see their distribution in ]. If you don't believe me, please consult with any other ] and they will be happy to confirm. | |||
| The same applies to the relationship between the ] and the ] as a whole. If you are not personally interested in ]s and ], that's fine, but obviously you cannot presume to speak for the entire Misplaced Pages readership. I find that map very useful precisely where it is located. You cannot tell me "If you like the map take it home, put it on your wall, and stare at it as long as you want." If so, we could say the same thing about anything we are personally not interested in. | |||
| I suppose you personally have no interest in the ] families, or else you would not say, as you say in your message: "Your ignorant mind might think that since all those people in the Caucasus live so close, they are irreplaceable for each other" (where I assume that, by "irreplaceable", you meant "interchangeable"). Those "]", as you call them, share millennia of life together in relatively close quarters and the question of their ethnolinguistic relationship is very much debated. Since Georgia is the only internationally recognized independent country whose language is a member of the ] group, a map of the Caucasian ethnolinguistic groups is perfectly relevant in the ] article. | |||
| You imply that your lack of interest in the above matters is representative of every other Wikipedian. (You say "NOONE gives a slightest f*** about what is going on 1000 kilometers from Georgia.") I beg to disagree. I would say that, in fact, you seem to be the only person who is bothered by that map, I am not sure why. By projecting your personal lack of interest onto every other Wikipedian, you are making a gross error. I did not put that map there. But I reverted your deletion precisely because you seem to be the only user who feels so strongly, in fact hysterically, about it. | |||
| In conclusion, your arguments, if I can call them that, are specious and disingenous. I will involve other Misplaced Pages users, who will hopefully let you know that you are the one who is out of line here, you are the one who is engaging in ], and you are the one whose mind is, shall we say, a little narrow. ] (]) 20:27, 21 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :People in the Caucasus share milliennia of living together? You are lecturing me like I am a stranger to a place where I was born and lived most of my life. Yes, they live together for millenia, they kill and hate each other for millenia, and I am sure they do not want to see each others faces on the articles about their own damn countries. Roll your tongue back and create another article specifically about the languages you are so passionate about; you can include your maps there. This is exactly the problem with you, you fail to realize that your interest in languages, somehow expressed through ethnographic maps, can not be expressed in its entirety in an article that is not Specifically for languages. You also unjustly imply that I am not interested in Caucasian languages, one of which is my native. You seem to confuse ones interest in languages with how relevant all these ethnographic maps are to this particular country article. | |||
| :By the way, Georgian is not the largest linguistic group in the provided area, its Azerbaijani language. Just because its not classified as Caucasian for some reason does not mean more than 7 million people can be omitted. Also, I have no idea what you mean that Georgia is the most representative of the Caucasus. Are you saying that the other cultures and languages are so related and/or similar to it that it can represent them? well, if yes, thats what prompts me to call you ignorant - being fooled by a mere geographic proximity like most foreigners that go there --] (]) 23:12, 21 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::The term ] does not refer to a geographic grouping, but a linguistic grouping. The ] is geographically located in the ] but is linguistically not a ], but a ]. Among the ], the ] has by far the largest number of speakers. It is the most representative because it is the most widely studied and because it is spoken in the only internationally recognized independent country whose language is a member of the ] group. I am not trying to lecture you. These things are all very well known. Just read the articles. There is a large number of ]s among the Wikipedians who can tell you the same things. You keep calling me ignorant, but your statements clearly indicate that you don't know much about what I am talking about. That's OK, except for the fact that you are trying to restrict the focus of this article to only what you are interested in. The ] of ] and of the ] region as a whole are deeply intertwined and reflect millennia of close interaction. They are of great interest to a large number of Misplaced Pages users. And that map provides more information on that particular subject than could be given in 10 pages. The ] of the ] region has nothing to do with politics or with the hatred you are referring to, which has more recent roots than the ancient ethnolinguistic relationships among the ]. You think I am "fooled by a mere geographic proximity like most foreigners that go there". That's ridiculous. In ], an evaluation of ] is never based on "geographic proximity". Like all language families, the ] family is not at all based on "mere geographic proximity", but on the ] and the ] of the languages themselves. I don't how else to explain this to you. ] (]) 00:13, 22 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == December 2009 == | |||
| ] Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Misplaced Pages without giving a valid reason for the removal in the ]. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been ]. Please make use of the ] if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-delete2 --> ] 07:50, 17 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ] Please do not ] other editors. Comment on ''content'', not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please ] and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-npa2 --> ] 07:51, 17 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :listen you little creep. I dont know which handbook you copied this warning statements from, and I do not care to know. all I know is that you have no right to delete things at your own discretion. Want to create a new map? do it, just dont mess with the materials thats been there and agreed upon long before you popped up.--] (]) 07:53, 17 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ] Please stop. If you continue to blank out or delete portions of page content, templates or other materials from Misplaced Pages, you will be ] from editing. <!-- Template:uw-delete3 --> ] 07:54, 17 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ] Please ] other editors. If you continue, you '''will''' be ] from editing Misplaced Pages. <!-- Template:uw-npa3 --> ] 07:55, 17 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::STOP POSTING THIS GARBAGE on my page and get out of here. I have enough things going on, I do not need extra postings from people like you. Do not dare to post on my talk page ever again. I have nothing to do with you or people like you whatsoever.--] (]) 07:57, 17 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Unblocked
I have unblocked your account so you can file an unblock request at WP:AN. The condition is strict: outside of this talkpage, you are not allowed to edit anywhere but in that AN discussion. OK? Good luck, Drmies (talk) 03:35, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Drmies: looks like my AN thread was archived without being formally closed. Can it be brought back so others may see and comment on it?--Satt 2 (talk) 07:31, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Unbanned
Satt 2, you have been unbanned as a result of {{https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Standard_offer_unblock_request this discussion}}. You are hereby topic banned from all things Georgia (Country) for a period of 12 months. You are formally cautioned that resuming contentious editing will see your editing career being brought to a very quick end. If you have any questions let me know but I strongly advise you that if you have any doubt its better not to commit the post. Spartaz 08:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
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Notice of noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. - LouisAragon (talk) 21:45, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Euryalus (talk) 05:14, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Indefinitely blocked per consensus in the above thread at WP:AN. Block appeal options are in the template above. -- Euryalus (talk) 05:14, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
- Satt2, I'm sorry that I missed the discussion--but I do not see what I could have contributed to it, no matter what my opinion on the various edits might have been. Drmies (talk) 05:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
- The extents and limits of the topic ban were obvious - it was "all things Georgia"; something easy to understand and not deliberately vindictive (I recall Russia-topic-banned Russavia being forbidden by Sandstein from even uploading a PD photo of a non-Russia-related subject - a street scene in Cuba - just because the photographer had been a Russian citizen). Moreover, the actual content of the edits that breached the ban seem to display the same pov editing aims found throughout Satt2's editing career and the career of all his many socks. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 17:06, 2 March 2017 (UTC)