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Ay, how ironic that even LMM recognized the importance of the photo: " It blows my mind we still discussing the deletion of this iconic image. --] (]) 16:16, 11 December 2009 (UTC)


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Tony, I have the utmost respect for you as you are one of the best contributors to this project, period. I do question the need for this image though. It really is not discussed in the article. You state in the keep rationale of the deletion discussion for this image that it is an event that is associated with the migration of Puerto Ricans to New York, yet this is not discussed in the article. I trust your knowledge, but the knowledge isn't expressed in the article. This leads me to lean towards delete, regardless of the questionable copyright status of the image. --] (]) 18:32, 11 December 2009 (UTC)


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I have noticed you have removed the Ponce massacre photo from various articles, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=History_of_Puerto_Rico&curid=19283151&diff=331177020&oldid=330532588. Why is this happening? I don't mean to play dumb here, but exactly where did we get the notion that this was the thing to do? Never mind the fact that the image is tightly linked to the issue under discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Uninvolved_Admin_Requested:_User:Damiens.rf_multiple_JPG_deletions_and_related_matters, which in itself is enough cause for any reasonably-acting demanding editor to tolerate a temporary freeze of any potential removals until after the matter has been decided there. But what's going? If I had to guess (and much to my surprise, given that I've known you for some time now) it would seem to me that you are playing into the poor logic presented so far by the questioning editor Damiens. (please forgive my frankness I am not intent into offending here). Can you tell me if anyone has established that the image IS, in fact, still under copyright and that therefore it has to go. If there is no evidence the image is under copyright, it should stay in ALL the articles where its addition was judged beneficial by previous editors before. Whether it is directly relevant to the article or not so directly relevant, indispensable to the article or not so indispensable, useful to clarify a point or not absolutely labeled as that useful,,, if the image has not been determined to be copyrighted it should then be a moot issue, right?,,, such rationale should not be the basis for the removal. I point out that, unlike the Venegas image http://en.wikipedia.org/File:Venegas.JPG which was clearly labeled copyrighted from the start, and thius did not qualfy to stay in only marginally related articles, there is no such indication from anything or anyone yet that the Ponce Massacre image is today still under copyright, so why the removals? Exactly what criteria have you used to determine the image IS copyrighted today, if the law clearly states a 28+28 yr rule? Last I checked that was 56, or 1993. Have you explained the rationale anywhere other than the limited summary would does not do justice to the removal given the current state of affairs. And two, and although it might be unnecessary to ask the obvious but, why not let the bickering editor do the dirty work of the removal herself? This would be the morally (if nothing else) right thing to do. Thanks for responding. Regards, ] (]) 03:57, 12 December 2009 (UTC)


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1.Why do you say the copyright issue isn't the issue any longer? 2. What in your view is the issue 'now', and why?. And 3. "Issue" in what sense? I mean, I saw you making deals with this bickering editor, just as I was finishing up my ANI submission. I say the issue at that point became the civility of the power-hungry, bickering editor, but as an overarching issue, not as one to replace the copyrights issue. 4. What makes the image a non-free image in your view that leads you to say "However, one the main requirements for non-free images is that they..."? 5. Why care about a withdrawl of the nomination? That is, why be at the mercy of 1 single individual when her/his character, has already been brought judged no good by so many in and out of the PR prject? Of course s/he will continue to move along your path so long as you have bones to feed him/her, but what when you run out of bones? then what? Also, how much do you know about the Puerto Rico Encyclopedia. http://www.enciclopediapr.org/ing/article.cfm?ref=06102005 It is a serious copyrighted site that wikipedia is afraid to copy from (there is a BOT that check's your additions against a listing of all of the PRE's content and will not allow copying from there). Yet they have a pic of the massacre w/o any copyright notice on it. So much for Damiens's "welcome to the internet" (which in itself assumes no good faith for Internet-anything. PRE wouldn't do this if the image was not free (there is no 'used by permission of' credit line either). I am convinced the image is PD. I am sure there are also plenty of printed books with the pic in it (and w/o a credit notice). I can't get to the 5th avenue library or the Ponce museum right now to get final proof of my suspicion. Called the museum to put them thru my usual research lines but they appeared closed. I am convinced the image is PD. Why continue to take all this bickering? Regards, ] (]) 05:40, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks for digging out that link, that has been my logic from the start of this whole submission: the photo is in the PD based on simple math: 1937 + 28=1965, and, even if we gave this whole thing the benefit of the doubt and assumed that El Imparcial filed for a 28-year extension) 1965 +28 (maximum allowed copyright before falling into PD)=1993.. Why is this so paramount? Because
*(1) In 1993 there was not 3rd extension (there has never been anyway)
*(2) The law provides no procedure for restoring protection for works in which copyright has been lost "for any reason." Thus 1993 is furthest expiry date, "no matter what".


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Thus the provision allowed for a 2nd extension of 67 years (for a max 95 years), instead of 28/56. However this exception is possible ''only'' if the copyright holder applied for and extension between March 22, 1964 and March 21, 1965. Knowing what you and I know, the nominating editor is in an uphill battle to prove that -- given the documented economic status of the Island in the mid 60's, the paper's signs of wear by the end of the 1960s (see EncyclopediaPR), and the paper's collapse a few years later (1973) -- that the paper is in fact likely to have been in the 15% of holders who applied for a copyright extension. This is the only thing the nominating editor can hang on to to make her case, the ''only'' leg she would have to stand on. Regards, ] (]) 15:15, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
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I think you should consider a rename of ] to "Hispanic and Latino Americans in World War II". It would mean a lot to the many (millions, dare I say) of Americans who prefer "Latino"/"Latina" over "Hispanic"—whether we always find their reasons to make sense or not. Really, it's a big issue; I'll get you some sources if you'd prefer to read more about it.
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Meantime, you wouldn't mind if I added more mentions of "Latino" to the article, would you? For instance, right off the bat I'd like to change the first sentence from "Hispanic Americans fought in every major battle"... to "Hispanic and Latino Americans fought in every major battle"... ] (]) 01:46, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
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Okay, Tony, I understand your point of view, though at the same time I totally disagree with it. And although I won't insist on my proposal, I just want to explain why it is that I disagree.


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First, it's clear that renaming some articles could be controversial. And I understand how any article's rating could be affected, negatively or positively, by a name change. After all, if we insisted in titling the article "The best darn fighters in World War II", I can hardly imagine the article's making it anywhere near featured status—even though the title describes the truth!


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But in this case, Tony, where the idea is to have the title match that of the ethnic group's own main article ("]", of course) I really have a hard time imagining why there would be any significant opposition, or even any opposition at all. Honestly, I can't.
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In regards to the various endonyms that Hispanic and Latino Americans use, you're right: there's a plethora of them. But these two—"Hispanic" and "Latino"—are the ones that the United States Bureau of the Census has chosen as "the" ethnonyms. They're the ones you see here: , and here: , and here: , and here: , and—well, you get the picture. What I'm saying is that those are the two official terms, and that they're the ones preferred by the majority of the community, by far.


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Hi, Marine. Could you fix the source for this image? --] 14:14, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
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The only thing she needs to do is send an email from her company's email system to OTRS stating what she already stated, and the image will be approved. Does that make sense? ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 23:54, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
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Hello Tony -- Regarding the ] article... You mention that you are acting on the the behalf of the Negroni family. Isn't that against the point of wikipedia? One of the five pillars of Misplaced Pages is neutral point of view. I would be happy to leave the article alone if you posted verifiable sources for the claims. As of yet, there have been no reliable sources posted for the claims that Pascal was the originator of the drink. What has been posted is biographical information that was written by a brother of one of the editors and random blogs which mirror the vague claims of the editor. The biography that is a self-published source, which is questionable as far as WP is concerned, doesn't even address the claim that Pascal Negroni is the originator of the drink, just his history as a general. I also noticed that you have written the article for this brother, as well as other Negronis, and I was wondering if there were any ] conflicts of interest that you would like to disclose in this situation? I realize that you are an admin and you have the ability to stop me, but I think that without solid references I am acting fully within the intent of wikipedia as all articles must have verifiability which has not yet been demonstrated. I have attempted to find published accounts of the Pascal claim, but have been unable to do so. As far as the Camillo claim, I have found three published accounts and verifiable accounts. Personally, I would like to maintain a WP:NPOV and I am committed to seeking outside editors for this, and have done so by posting a RfC, as well as asking leaders of the wikiprojects to review the article. I will seek other admins for their thoughts on the matter. If you review the history log you can see many other editors have removed this claim on the basis of no references. I'm sure that once there is a solid reference the information will stay.


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Ok, what's up with the wikipedia people deleting the Ada Perkins photo? What's going on? Just seems to me that they are being counter productive when it come sto information. Can you find another one? I don't get it.
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Well, that's strange! There are soo many pictures here on Misplaced Pages that I am sure are not public domain and are not questioned. Here's what I know about the picture that you had: The photo was actually the cover of a magazine called 'Angela Luisa' there were a number of other pictures inside of Ms. Perkins. I saw the original on a webpage about Miss Puerto Rico under the link of www.voy.com/211389/. There are anumber of other pics on flkr.com as well. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:23, 26 December 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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:Hi, just to let you know, there's a discussion of this issue also here. . Unfortunately nobody ever responded to your post on ] where you left it. --] (]) 18:01, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


Please explain why you have once again recreated this: after it was deleted in this deletion discussion in October 2023: ], you then recreated it here on 7 October 2023: and then agreed to delete it following discussion on 24 October 2023: ].
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You have been told repeatedly that you must follow ]. Your page ] is another blatant breach of NOTWEBHOST, which should be deleted. I would tag it for speedy deletion, but presumably you have protected it to prevent this. ] (]) 08:41, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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::No, that was already covered in the deletion discussion and subsequent discussion on 24 October 2023. You need to delete it and your autographs page as they are breaches of ]. ] (]) 03:07, 23 October 2024 (UTC) You also need to delete The Marine and the Girl Next Door in on the same basis. ] (]) 11:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
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I'm going to have a word on Mztourist's talk page, but I think this has blown out of proportion.

Obviously, administrators are not perfect and sometimes the behaviour is egregiously bad or out of touch enough to warrant a desysop. I set up the "Conflict interest of management" Arbcom case a few months back, and while it wasn't my explicit intention, it did result in advanced permissions being removed.

I think all the Arbitration Committee want is an assurance that this is a minor and insignificant matter, and you're not really bothered if people take exception to to pages in your user space and cite reasonable reasons for doing so. The community doesn't appear to have a consensus on what to do with user pages that aren't directly to do with improving Misplaced Pages - for example, consider ] which, even though consensus at the MfD seemed to be trending to "keep", I decided to delete per IAR for a quiet life. That might have been a way de-escalating this matter here.

Anyway, now the case is at Arbcom, we'll see what happens next. ] ] ] 15:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
:Tony, this isn't worth your time. It's clear from statements already made at the case request that movement forward is fairly a foregone conclusion. The bottom line is you're going to be de-adminned whether you participate in the case or not. Participating simply validates the process of ArbCom, which is woefully bad. All of your incredible work over the years will be ignored, and instead the focus will come onto such things as you blocking a vandal who was disrupting a page in your userspace. The pound of flesh not having been extracted is now being asked for at ArbCom. Don't validate it with your presence. Let them push their electrons around, but don't let it bother you. --] (]) 18:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
::This is horrendous advice. Loss of tools is not a foregone conclusion unless you fail to respond.
::If you do not respond, it becomes an ] issue, and you will be certain to lose the tools. ] (]) 19:39, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
:::You are welcome to your opinion. However, case after case after case after case after case of admin conduct brought before ArbCom has shown that defending oneself in such cases is nearly always futile. Prove me wrong. Defending oneself at ArbCom is an entirely useless endeavour. ArbCom's going to desysop him anyway. It is a foregone conclusion. If you want to claim he should be desysopped under ] for not responding, fine. Marine 69-71, you can acknowledge the ArbCom case. Attempting to defend yourself though is futile. Think of it as a pleading of 'no contest'. --] (]) 20:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
::::I agree with DFO, this is horrendous advice. ] is a good example of an admin who participated and was let off with a warning. ] (]) 17:28, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
::::: That's 1. Got any others? --] (]) 19:57, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::I do not need any others; you used multiple absolute statements, meaning that a single example invalidates your statements. ] (]) 20:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I said "nearly always". I did not use the absolute case of "always". Regardless, if you want to debate the semantics of this further or the abstract issue at large, my talk page is ]. No need to clog Tony's talk page with it. --] (]) 20:46, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Tony, would you please email me via the "Email this user" link in the interface when you are viewing my userpage? Thanks. <small>(To anyone watching this; this is nothing nefarious, nor of interest to the general project)</small> --] (]) 01:23, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi Tony, I'm a fellow Bronxite and somebody who's been doing this wikipedia thing ''almost'' as long as you have. I don't have any magic answers, but I have been around the block a few times so I may be able to give some useful advice. If you'd like to chat off-wiki, feel free to ] to send me an email. ] ] 03:01, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

:You might want to address the concerns raised in the case request in a manner that recognizes the problems and assures the community that these problems will end and not be repeated. Thanks. ] (]) 15:26, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
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Tony, I found some thoughts from the past that I was looking for and wanted to share them here in regards to this proposed case for you. It's a bit of a read, but if you have any inclination to participate in the ArbCom case (assuming it gets accepted; they might desysop you by motion without a trial), I think it's worth the time (if people's responses are any judge). The thoughts are . --] (]) 19:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Tony, I respect you on-wiki and off-wiki, but admins are still required to respond to questions per ], otherwise it is assumed you forfeited the adminship (called "no contest plea" by Hammersoft). You need to explain the reasons behind your actions at the time, as well as whether it is justified now or not to be repeated. ] (]) 09:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
:I know I said it above, but I will second this request. At the moment I have ''no'' choice but to vote to desysop, despite the fact that I really do not want to, because you have not responded to further enquiry. ] (]) 12:38, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Primefac}} Actually you do have a choice to accept a case rather than solve it by motion. There is no emergency here. It's a foregone conclusion you're going to desysop Marine 69-71, but you could at least have some respect for the process and for Marine 69-71. Instead, ArbCom's taking the easy way out. Setting Marine 69-71 aside for the moment, refusing to accept a case will result in things like from the person who made the RFAR request and their continued insistence that this wasn't a personal attack being utterly ignored. There are other issues here that ArbCom is completely deaf to at this point. Further, Sir Kenneth Kho's comments on the RFAR are powerful, and likewise being ignored. Primefac, you were voted in to do a job, not to accuse people of having false rage and then not do that job. Do it. --] (]) 13:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
:::I agree with Hammersoft in this. By motion is definitely the ''easy'' way. The simple way. I just don't see it as action which should bear Misplaced Pages's imprimatur, not without a fuller look at the case. There's no real urgency in cases in which the subject is not an active editor or an admin is not using actively using tools wrongly. It is the undue ''urgency'' of this situation ArbCom has the opportunity to ''calm down'' and not further inflame or embitter. All this is my opinion. ] (]) 14:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
::::We have a pretty solid track record of suspended cases never actually being taken up. I am willing to advocate for one, but if Marine is not going to participate, then it makes little difference whether the desysop is by motion immediately or simply delayed by three months when the suspended case closes. ] (]) 17:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Could you explain why do you want a case in this instance? Earlier you criticized RexxS's case here , would this case have your support? ] (]) 15:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
::::IMHO the filing party in this case has also misbehaved. That's why I want the full case. ''I didn't list them'' as a party. They listed themselves. ] (]) 15:45, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::I don't think there's much of a case here, either Marine or Mztourist. This could have been dismissed a few days ago, if Marine explained his tool use and his comment to Mason. This is not an issue worthy of ArbCom, but it is becoming ] issue real quick. ] (]) 15:53, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::I concur with BusterD. The issue here is that so far it has been focused solely on Marine 69-71. ArbCom is ''extremely'' likely to desysop anyone who (for lack of a better term) was charged by someone bringing a RFAR. This can and has resulted in extreme myopic behavior. All of us here, including Marine 69-71 volunteer our time. I see no benefit to Marine 69-71 exerting their effort and using their volunteer time to participate in this case. As I've said before, if they don't participate, they get desysopped. If they acknowledge the case, but don't participate, they get desysopped. If they participate in the case, they get desysopped. People are hanging ] over Marine's head like a threat. ''He's already going to be desysopped''. So what possible benefit does spending innumerable hours attempting to defend oneself bring to the table? Nothing. That's what. So why do it? But, that's not the only aspect of this case; there's more at play here. ArbCom is focused laser sharp on Marine 69-71. This has all happened before and will happen again. ArbCom is outright abusive. --] (]) 17:05, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::My responses are short, I would expect them to be read. If there is a response from Marine, chances are fairly good I will vote against desysop. This is now the ''third'' time I am indicating this, and yet you still insist that if he participates he ''will'' be desysopped. Please stop playing the "rigged election" game. ] (]) 17:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::: Please stop insulting me. I am not playing a game. I am backed up with copious evidence that supports my conclusions. Don't like the conclusions? Prove me wrong. If you prove me wrong, I will change my conclusions. There is no "game", thank you very much. While ''you'' might not vote to desysop, the motion is already 3-0 in favor. Maybe if you could convince your cohorts to back off the motion and actually start a case, maybe...just maybe some good will come out of this. --] (]) 17:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::It is actually 3 supports and 2 opposes in practice, Primefac voted to admonish, KevinL indicated he would desysop if absent a response. I must note that if there is no response at the end, there will be 10 supports and 0 opposes. ] (]) 17:53, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Tony, friendly reminder that desysop by motion is currently passing, this is your final chance to explain yourself, or request a full case. As of now, ArbCom is losing faith that a response is coming. In Puerto Rican time, today will be the 12th day of the RFAR, tomorrow will be the 13th, the day after that will be the 14th.] (]) 11:23, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Tony, this is the 13th day, and tomorrow is the 14th day. ] (]) 09:45, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

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:I'm flat out asking you: '''There's zero dishonor in stepping down as admin. Will you please hand in the bit?''' Tony, you've been important to the pedia and many of us know that first hand (hell, I looked up to you). The pedia cannot abide obstinance, so your silence sends a message, even if inadvertent. If you went to the 'crats noticeboard this morning and handed in your mop, all of this (except perhaps admonishment) just goes away. Consider doing an honorable thing. In your own honor. ] (]) 13:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
::{{yo|BusterD}} I watch the dessysop case requests even when I don't comment. I have never seen so many implore an admin to act in their own best interests before. SMDH. ] (]) 13:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
::I don't think anybody is offended by the silence, but the rules require admins to answer questions originating from vandals to ArbCom alike, nobody should think this is a bad rule? There's also zero dishonor in admins answering questions. ] (]) 15:47, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
:::There is a time where refusing to enter the arena is an acceptable solution to a unfair question (ex: Did they catch you murdering your wife last night?). Hey, I'm largely with you on this, Sir Kenneth Kho. Your statement at RFAR was helpful. I'm hoping for calm response and offering Tony an option. But I'd rather see a full case than see an action by motion under these circumstances. I want Tony to be able to affect the outcome in his favor. ] (]) 15:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
::::I think ArbCom would still expect "I did not murder my wife" there. I recognize we are much on the same page. I don't mind a full case, but this is only if Tony is willing to attend that months-long process, it would help if he can confirm that. I also add that Tony might be unfamiliar with modern ArbCom processes.] (]) 16:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::Tony could choose his battles in a full case. He would have allies and advisors in such a case. Strangers wouldn't be coming along disrespecting him simply because the pedia changed and he didn't know or think it worth his time to do so. Still doesn't know. ] (]) 16:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Given that Tony has been largely absent from the project for quite some time now (very low rate of edits over the last ~2 years), it is hardly surprising that he is silent at this time, and has been so for 5 days. Since January 2022, he's had 45 gaps in editing of a week or more, the longest being 7 weeks (which happened this year; June to August). ArbCom will not be denied their pound of flesh though, and they will forcibly desysop despite this history. It's been 4 days since they posted the motion to desysop. Tony ''averages'' that much of a gap in the last 2.5 years (). Tony's not used admin privileges in 17 months. Nevertheless, ArbCom's quite certain there is a pressing emergency at hand though, and have to desysop pronto. So glad we have ArbCom to defend our project against such threats. More seriously; the utter contempt and disrespect ArbCom has shown for an editor who has contributed more than 700 articles to the project is utterly despicable. If they want to tear the man down, fine they can tear the man down. But you can still do that with respect and dignity, not with summary judgment like this. The end of ArbCom can't happen soon enough. --] (]) 17:06, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
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'''As a Wikipedian I have received many recognitions for my written work. However,, a certain admin here has recently began to haraze me continuesly and as such I guess said person can now be happy that my tools were removed. Please return my tools if you believe that this action was unjustified. Thank you.''' ] (]) 20:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
:Tony, I am not asking you to confirm or deny that I am the "certain admin". However, if I am the person to whom you refer, please understand that I tried exceptionally hard ''to defend you in all this''. Please see right on your talk page; I wanted to discuss the overall situation with you in private. I didn't expect ArbCom was going to back off their insistence on desysopping you. I was hoping to get some sort of dignity out of all of it for you. ArbCom has treated you with contempt. Given the enormous body of work that you have contributed to this project, it is absolutely shameful that they have treated you in the way they have. I hold you in the utmost respect, as and still hold strongly to now. I know many other people do as well as I expressed to you 13 years ago . You . The advice I have given to you on your talk page now is meant in the same vein, never to harass you but to lift you up. If I have given you pause to think otherwise, then I deeply apologize. --] (]) 01:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
::No my friend, I consider you among the best members of this project. I thank you for being in this project. ] (]) 02:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
::My impression is that he has been extended as much dignity as possible, but at the same time it is difficult for the community to make exceptions to rules without compromising the egalitarian ethos of the project.
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::::@] A desysop was not a foregone conclusion. I meant that this issue could be resolved by motion, one of whose options might be a desysop. I wasn't going to vote to deysysop until the particular diff in question was unearthed. I think you're right, I doubt we'd undo our decision here, and I said as much. Still, it's certainly not going to be undone on our end unless he does understand what our issue was. And he won't survive RFA unless he understands either. Though I doubt he'd survive at RfA currently if just because of his low activity and need for the tools. Perhaps I should've just given him the advice of "your goose is cooked," but that seemed not entirely true, and not a helpful "if you really want it...heres what to do next." Understanding his issues is necessary, but not sufficient, to regain the tools. At any rate, I agree with you that this doesn't diminish Tony's many incredible lifetime achievements to Misplaced Pages. ] <sup>]</sup>] 18:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
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No des tu tierra al extraño
-Virgilio Dávila-
Spanish
(original version)
English
translation
¡No des tu tierra (Patria) al extraño!

por más que te pague bien.
el que su terruño vende!
vende la Patria (madre) con él.

Do not give your land (country) to a stranger!

even though he pays you well..
He who sells his land!
Is selling his homeland ( mother) as well.


Tony the Marine is "watching" you

I BELIEVE

I believe that at this time and age, Misplaced Pages should require that all those who wish to edit or add to our project should be registered users. It is easy for an unregistered user to vandalize an article which many of us have gone through a lot of trouble to write, then immediately make a copy as if that is what was truly written, thereby dis-crediting our project and adding to the reality that ours is an unreliable encyclopedia. The fact is that the majority of the vandalism is caused by un-registered users who have nothing better to do with their lives. If Misplaced Pages wants to keep it's good and honest contributors who love to share their knowledge with the world in general and wants to gain some sense of being a reliable encyclopedia, then it must do something to protect it's contributors and the articles which they have written from the constant vandalism going on, otherwise what's the use of staying here? Tony the Marine (talk) 19:22, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

South Bronx notables

In these edits, you added entries for Joe Negroni, Herman Santiago and Tony Santiago as notables. None of these entries have sources added to connect them to the South Bronx and none of the articles mention The Bronx in any way, let alone the South Bronx, with Negroni and Herman Santiago being placed in Manhattan. Is there a reason why they should be added as notables in the absence of any sourcing or mention in their articles. Alansohn (talk) 14:30, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Thu Feb 8 NYC Hacking Night + Feb 21 WikiWednesday

February 8: Hacking Night @ Prime Produce

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for NYC Hacking Night at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan. It is intended primarily for technical contributors, though newcomers are welcome as well!

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February 21: WikiWednesday Salon @ Prime Produce

WikiWednesday is back this month! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our WikiWednesday Salon at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, with an online-based participation option also available. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!

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Good article reassessment for Hispanics in the United States Marine Corps

Hispanics in the United States Marine Corps has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

"65th Infantry Regiment (United States" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect 65th Infantry Regiment (United States has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 21 § 65th Infantry Regiment (United States until a consensus is reached. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:39, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Tue March 5: Wiki Gala NYC

March 5: Wiki Gala @ Prime Produce
Wiki-fashion show at last year's event

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community and visitors from the global Wikimedia Foundation for our Wiki Gala at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan. All are welcome!

This is a sequel to the March 2023 Grand Central Salon and the March 2022 Wiki-Tent Brunch.

The event will feature lightning talks and a Wiki-fashion show, for which you are encouraged to dress in your finest Wikimedia clothing and accessories (bags, buttons, even books), or clothing connected to the topics you edit on wiki projects.

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WikiNYC: 3/14 Hacking Night + 3/16 Queens Name Explorer

March 14: Hacking Night @ Prime Produce

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for Pi Day Hacking Night at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan. It is intended primarily for technical contributors, though newcomers are welcome as well, and pies will be served in celebration of Pi Day!

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March 16: Queens Name Explorer @ QPL Tech Lab

You are also invited to the Misplaced Pages:Meetup/NYC/Queens Name Explorer edit-a-thon at the Queens Public Library Tech Lab in Long Island City, which will be hosted in collaboration OpenStreetMap US, Urban Archive and the Queens Memory Project. This is an opportunity for the tech savvy to learn about Queens history and for the history savvy to hone their open data skills – plus, there will be refreshments and prizes for everyone!

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WikiWednesday (April 10) and City Tech Library LGBTQIA edit-a-thon (April 11)

April 10: WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce
Prime Produce

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our WikiWednesday Salon, with in-person at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, as well as an online-based participation option.

Among the topics, we'll be covering the newly-released drafts of the Movement Charter for Wikimedia global governance.

All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct.

April 11: City Tech Library LGBTQIA edit-a-thon
New York City College of Technology

Additionally, you are invited to City Tech Library LGBTQIA edit-a-thon at the New York City College of Technology Library in Downtown Brooklyn! Join us in person on April 11th to learn about these great new materials at City Tech Library; to learn about editing Misplaced Pages; and to help increase representation of LGBTQIA individuals and issues online. All are welcome, new and experienced!

Interested in attending, but not a CUNY student or faculty? Please get in touch; we'll help you navigate City Tech building security. Email Jen: jennifer.hoyer18 (at) citytech.cuny.edu.

  • Thursday, April 11 City Tech Library LGBTQIA edit-a-thon (RSVP on-wiki).
    12:30 pm – 3:30 pm (come by any time!)
    4:00 pm – 5:00 pm (reception to celebrate the library's LGBTQIA collection)
    City Tech Library Multimedia Screening and Meeting Space, 300 Jay Street, Brooklyn NY

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Thu April 25: WikiNYC Hacking Night

April 25: Hacking Night @ Prime Produce
Past event at Prime Produce.

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for NYC Hacking Night at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan. It is intended primarily for technical contributors, though newcomers are welcome as well!

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May 8: WikiWednesday Salon with new Executive Director

May 8: WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly WikiWednesday Salon at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, with an online-based participation option also available. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!

This special WikiWednesday will feature a welcome session and beginning of a listening tour by the newly appointed executive director of Wikimedia NYC, the first staff member leading our local non-profit.

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May 2024

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June 2: Hacking Sunday (+preview of June 8 Wiknic)

June 2: Hacking Sunday @ Prime Produce

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our Hacking Sunday at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan. It is intended primarily for technical contributors, though newcomers are welcome as well! The event runs for the whole day, though you are welcome to come by for as little or as long as you'd like.

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A documentary filmmaker will be in attendance, working on Rabbit Hole, which aims to document Misplaced Pages's community to showcase how our network tackles important questions about how history is recorded. They will be in attendance to film snippets of this gathering for the documentary. It is completely optional to be a part of the film and there will be protocols in place if you wish to not be filmed. If there are any questions about the filming please reach out to the filmmaker, Meg Vatterott (meg.vatterott@gmail.com).

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Sat June 8: Governors Island Wiknic

June 8: Wiknic @ Governors Island
2023 Wiknic group photo

You are invited to the picnic anyone can edit on Governors Island, at 403 Colonels Row by the ArtCrawl Harlem house.

This is a sequel event to the 2023 Governors Island Wiknic and will feature a workshop led by AfroCrowd at the ArtCrawl Harlem house. We'll also encourage collaboration for wiki-coverage of ArtCrawl Harlem's current exhibition at Governors Island. All are welcome, new and experienced!

Bring a picnic blanket and some potluck, as well as some sunscreen! We'll also provide sandwiches for everyone, and maybe some NYC pizza too, but we encourage you to bring your own favorite dishes to share, especially for those food cultural topics you would like to improve on Misplaced Pages.

We'll also do a portal thing for a bit with West Coast friends at Misplaced Pages:Meetup/LA/Wiknic2024.

Saturday, June 8, 2024 NYC Wiknic @ Governors Island (RSVP on-wiki)

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June 26: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

June 26: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC
Welcome to Wikimedia New York City!

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our Online-Only WikiWednesday Salon on Zoom. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!

This special online-only WikiWednesday will be dedicated to the Wikimedia Movement Charter referendum, and also to exploring future options of other online-centric events for our Wikimedia NYC chapter.

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Fri July 19: Wikicurious in NYC, Editing Misplaced Pages for Beginners

July 19: Wikicurious: Editing Misplaced Pages for Beginners @ Civic Hall

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for the inaugural event of the beginner-focused Wikicurious series at Civic Hall! All are welcome, and newcomers and aspiring editors are especially encouraged to attend.

Registration via Eventbrite is required for building entry, and is also encouraged on the event page on Meta.

The Wikicurious series at Civic Hall is supported by Craig Newmark Philanthropies. Wikimedia NYC is an official affiliate and supported by the Wikimedia Foundation.

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Good article reassessment for 65th Infantry Regiment (United States)

65th Infantry Regiment (United States) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 22:40, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Sat August 24: Roosevelt Island Wiknic

August 24: Wiknic @ Roosevelt Island
2019 Wiknic group photo, last time we held it on Roosevelt Island

You are invited to the picnic anyone can edit on Roosevelt Island, at Southpoint Park.

Following up on this month's Wikimania in Poland, this Wiknic will have as guest of honor User:DerHexer, the 2024 Wikimedia Laureate of the Year, marking his triumphant North American tour!

Bring a picnic blanket and some potluck, as well as some sunscreen! We'll also provide a little something for everyone, but we encourage you to bring your own favorite dishes to share, especially for those food cultural topics you would like to improve on Misplaced Pages.

We'll also do a portal thing for a bit with West Coast friends at the WikiLA ocean life edit-a-thon.

All are welcome, new and experienced!

Saturday, August 24, 2024 NYC Wiknic @ Roosevelt Island (RSVP on-wiki)

  • Time: 2:00 - 7:00 pm (come by any time!)
  • Salon-style Discussions: 3:00 pm - 3:30 pm (session A) 5:00 pm - 5:30 pm (session B)
  • Location: Roosevelt Island (Southpoint Park, look for our Misplaced Pages/Wikimedia NYC banner).

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Sep 25: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election Meeting (plus Latin music event on Sep 21!)

September 25: Annual Election & Members Meeting

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our Annual Election & Members Meeting, with in-person at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, as well as an online-based participation option.

The Members' Meeting is similar to other WikiWednesday meetups, except that its primary function is to elect a new Board of Directors. We will elect three board seats, half of the elected seats on the board. After being elected, those elected can potentially appoint more seats.

We will also focus on the Wikimedia NYC Strategic Plan, our Financial Report, and Annual and Monthly event teams for the coming year.

Election info:

  • To run for election or to vote, you must be a dues-paying member of Wikimedia New York City, having renewed in the past 12 months.
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  • The poll will be open for the 48 hours between 8pm EDT on September 23 and 8pm EDT on September 25.
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P.S. Also upcoming just before our annual meeting is the Latin music edit-a-thon, Wikicurious: Editing to the Beat (RSVP at Eventbrite), on Saturday September 21!

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Sep 21: Wikicurious for Latin Music: Editing to the Beat ♫

Sat Sep 21: Wikicurious - Editing to the Beat ♫ @ Lehman College

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for the "Editing to the Beat" event of the beginner-focused Wikicurious series at Lehman College. This is the second event of the series, following the inaugural event at Civic Hall in July. Led by a 9-person live band demonstrating Caribbean and Latin musical genres, we'll engage with efforts such as WikiProject Latin Music, and will encourage editing on both English and Spanish Misplaced Pages. All are welcome, and newcomers and aspiring editors are especially encouraged to attend. Registration via Eventbrite is required for building entry, and is also encouraged on the event page on Meta.

The Wikicurious series is supported by Craig Newmark Philanthropies. Wikimedia NYC is an official affiliate and supported by the Wikimedia Foundation. Also supporting this event are Equis, The Celia Cruz Foundation, and the International Museum of Salsa. In association with WikiCari and AfroCrowd.

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Always precious

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Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Thank you Gerda Arendt. I want you to know that I have always thought of you as being one of most wonderful people here in Misplaced Pages. Unlike others you inspire and encourage others to make positive contributions to this project. Bless you.

Oct 26: Wikidata Day NYC

October 26: Wikidata Day in New York City
2024 Wikidata Day NYC flyer

You are invited to Wikidata Day in New York City at Pratt Institute School of Information in Manhattan, in celebration of Wikidata's 12th birthday. This event, held by our chapter in collaboration with Pratt and Girls Who Code, will be our third annual celebration of Wikidata Day. It will feature spotlight sessions, lightning talks, and the customary Wiki-cake, while those unable to attend in person will be able to watch a livestream.

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22 October 2024, Super Intergalactic Justice League

Please explain why you have once again recreated this: after it was deleted in this deletion discussion in October 2023: Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Marine 69-71/sandbox, you then recreated it here on 7 October 2023: and then agreed to delete it following discussion on 24 October 2023: User talk:Marine 69-71/Archive 52 - Misplaced Pages#Speedy deletion nomination of User talk:Marine 69-71/Archive 49. You have been told repeatedly that you must follow Misplaced Pages:NOTWEBHOST. Your page User:Marine 69-71/Autographs is another blatant breach of NOTWEBHOST, which should be deleted. I would tag it for speedy deletion, but presumably you have protected it to prevent this. Mztourist (talk) 08:41, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

No, that was already covered in the deletion discussion and subsequent discussion on 24 October 2023. You need to delete it and your autographs page as they are breaches of Misplaced Pages:NOTWEBHOST. Mztourist (talk) 03:07, 23 October 2024 (UTC) You also need to delete The Marine and the Girl Next Door in on the same basis. Mztourist (talk) 11:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
As you have clearly decided to ignore my messages and kept editing Super Intergalactic Justice League, I will be taking this to ANI. Mztourist (talk) 03:15, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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ANI Notice 25 October 2024

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Marine 69-71 intractable breaches of policy WP:NOTWEBHOST regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Mztourist (talk) 03:25, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Marine 69-71/Autographs

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Request for Arbitration notice, 26 October 2024

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Thanks, Mztourist (talk) 07:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm going to have a word on Mztourist's talk page, but I think this has blown out of proportion.

Obviously, administrators are not perfect and sometimes the behaviour is egregiously bad or out of touch enough to warrant a desysop. I set up the "Conflict interest of management" Arbcom case a few months back, and while it wasn't my explicit intention, it did result in advanced permissions being removed.

I think all the Arbitration Committee want is an assurance that this is a minor and insignificant matter, and you're not really bothered if people take exception to to pages in your user space and cite reasonable reasons for doing so. The community doesn't appear to have a consensus on what to do with user pages that aren't directly to do with improving Misplaced Pages - for example, consider Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Ritchie333/Userbox Trump which, even though consensus at the MfD seemed to be trending to "keep", I decided to delete per IAR for a quiet life. That might have been a way de-escalating this matter here.

Anyway, now the case is at Arbcom, we'll see what happens next. Ritchie333 15:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Tony, this isn't worth your time. It's clear from statements already made at the case request that movement forward is fairly a foregone conclusion. The bottom line is you're going to be de-adminned whether you participate in the case or not. Participating simply validates the process of ArbCom, which is woefully bad. All of your incredible work over the years will be ignored, and instead the focus will come onto such things as you blocking a vandal who was disrupting a page in your userspace. The pound of flesh not having been extracted here is now being asked for at ArbCom. Don't validate it with your presence. Let them push their electrons around, but don't let it bother you. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
This is horrendous advice. Loss of tools is not a foregone conclusion unless you fail to respond.
If you do not respond, it becomes an WP:ADMINACCT issue, and you will be certain to lose the tools. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:39, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
You are welcome to your opinion. However, case after case after case after case after case of admin conduct brought before ArbCom has shown that defending oneself in such cases is nearly always futile. Prove me wrong. Defending oneself at ArbCom is an entirely useless endeavour. ArbCom's going to desysop him anyway. It is a foregone conclusion. If you want to claim he should be desysopped under WP:ADMINACCT for not responding, fine. Marine 69-71, you can acknowledge the ArbCom case. Attempting to defend yourself though is futile. Think of it as a pleading of 'no contest'. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
I agree with DFO, this is horrendous advice. Special:PermaLink/1071296297#Timwi is a good example of an admin who participated and was let off with a warning. Primefac (talk) 17:28, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
That's 1. Got any others? --Hammersoft (talk) 19:57, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
I do not need any others; you used multiple absolute statements, meaning that a single example invalidates your statements. Primefac (talk) 20:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
I said "nearly always". I did not use the absolute case of "always". Regardless, if you want to debate the semantics of this further or the abstract issue at large, my talk page is that way. No need to clog Tony's talk page with it. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:46, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Tony, would you please email me via the "Email this user" link in the interface when you are viewing my userpage? Thanks. (To anyone watching this; this is nothing nefarious, nor of interest to the general project) --Hammersoft (talk) 01:23, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi Tony, I'm a fellow Bronxite and somebody who's been doing this wikipedia thing almost as long as you have. I don't have any magic answers, but I have been around the block a few times so I may be able to give some useful advice. If you'd like to chat off-wiki, feel free to click on this link to send me an email. RoySmith (talk) 03:01, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

You might want to address the concerns raised in the case request in a manner that recognizes the problems and assures the community that these problems will end and not be repeated. Thanks. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:26, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Tony, just wanted to thank you for all your contributions over the years to Misplaced Pages and the community. Andre🚐 20:40, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Tony, I found some thoughts from the past that I was looking for and wanted to share them here in regards to this proposed case for you. It's a bit of a read, but if you have any inclination to participate in the ArbCom case (assuming it gets accepted; they might desysop you by motion without a trial), I think it's worth the time (if people's responses are any judge). The thoughts are here. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Tony, I respect you on-wiki and off-wiki, but admins are still required to respond to questions per WP:ADMINACCT, otherwise it is assumed you forfeited the adminship (called "no contest plea" by Hammersoft). You need to explain the reasons behind your actions at the time, as well as whether it is justified now or not to be repeated. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 09:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

I know I said it above, but I will second this request. At the moment I have no choice but to vote to desysop, despite the fact that I really do not want to, because you have not responded to further enquiry. Primefac (talk) 12:38, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
@Primefac: Actually you do have a choice to accept a case rather than solve it by motion. There is no emergency here. It's a foregone conclusion you're going to desysop Marine 69-71, but you could at least have some respect for the process and for Marine 69-71. Instead, ArbCom's taking the easy way out. Setting Marine 69-71 aside for the moment, refusing to accept a case will result in things like this from the person who made the RFAR request and their continued insistence that this wasn't a personal attack being utterly ignored. There are other issues here that ArbCom is completely deaf to at this point. Further, Sir Kenneth Kho's comments on the RFAR are powerful, and likewise being ignored. Primefac, you were voted in to do a job, not to accuse people of having false rage and then not do that job. Do it. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
I agree with Hammersoft in this. By motion is definitely the easy way. The simple way. I just don't see it as action which should bear Misplaced Pages's imprimatur, not without a fuller look at the case. There's no real urgency in cases in which the subject is not an active editor or an admin is not using actively using tools wrongly. It is the undue urgency of this situation ArbCom has the opportunity to calm down and not further inflame or embitter. All this is my opinion. BusterD (talk) 14:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
We have a pretty solid track record of suspended cases never actually being taken up. I am willing to advocate for one, but if Marine is not going to participate, then it makes little difference whether the desysop is by motion immediately or simply delayed by three months when the suspended case closes. Primefac (talk) 17:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Could you explain why do you want a case in this instance? Earlier you criticized RexxS's case here , would this case have your support? Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 15:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
IMHO the filing party in this case has also misbehaved. That's why I want the full case. I didn't list them as a party. They listed themselves. BusterD (talk) 15:45, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
I don't think there's much of a case here, either Marine or Mztourist. This could have been dismissed a few days ago, if Marine explained his tool use and his comment to Mason. This is not an issue worthy of ArbCom, but it is becoming WP:ADMINACCT issue real quick. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 15:53, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
I concur with BusterD. The issue here is that so far it has been focused solely on Marine 69-71. ArbCom is extremely likely to desysop anyone who (for lack of a better term) was charged by someone bringing a RFAR. This can and has resulted in extreme myopic behavior. All of us here, including Marine 69-71 volunteer our time. I see no benefit to Marine 69-71 exerting their effort and using their volunteer time to participate in this case. As I've said before, if they don't participate, they get desysopped. If they acknowledge the case, but don't participate, they get desysopped. If they participate in the case, they get desysopped. People are hanging WP:ADMINACCT over Marine's head like a threat. He's already going to be desysopped. So what possible benefit does spending innumerable hours attempting to defend oneself bring to the table? Nothing. That's what. So why do it? But, that's not the only aspect of this case; there's more at play here. ArbCom is focused laser sharp on Marine 69-71. This has all happened before and will happen again. ArbCom is outright abusive. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:05, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
My responses are short, I would expect them to be read. If there is a response from Marine, chances are fairly good I will vote against desysop. This is now the third time I am indicating this, and yet you still insist that if he participates he will be desysopped. Please stop playing the "rigged election" game. Primefac (talk) 17:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Please stop insulting me. I am not playing a game. I am backed up with copious evidence that supports my conclusions. Don't like the conclusions? Prove me wrong. If you prove me wrong, I will change my conclusions. There is no "game", thank you very much. While you might not vote to desysop, the motion is already 3-0 in favor. Maybe if you could convince your cohorts to back off the motion and actually start a case, maybe...just maybe some good will come out of this. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
It is actually 3 supports and 2 opposes in practice, Primefac voted to admonish, KevinL indicated he would desysop if absent a response. I must note that if there is no response at the end, there will be 10 supports and 0 opposes. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 17:53, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Tony, friendly reminder that desysop by motion is currently passing, this is your final chance to explain yourself, or request a full case. As of now, ArbCom is losing faith that a response is coming. In Puerto Rican time, today will be the 12th day of the RFAR, tomorrow will be the 13th, the day after that will be the 14th.Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 11:23, 6 November 2024 (UTC) Tony, this is the 13th day, and tomorrow is the 14th day. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 09:45, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Good to see your datestamp!

Glad we're both still around. BusterD (talk) 12:25, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm flat out asking you: There's zero dishonor in stepping down as admin. Will you please hand in the bit? Tony, you've been important to the pedia and many of us know that first hand (hell, I looked up to you). The pedia cannot abide obstinance, so your silence sends a message, even if inadvertent. If you went to the 'crats noticeboard this morning and handed in your mop, all of this (except perhaps admonishment) just goes away. Consider doing an honorable thing. In your own honor. BusterD (talk) 13:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
@BusterD: I watch the dessysop case requests even when I don't comment. I have never seen so many implore an admin to act in their own best interests before. SMDH. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
I don't think anybody is offended by the silence, but the rules require admins to answer questions originating from vandals to ArbCom alike, nobody should think this is a bad rule? There's also zero dishonor in admins answering questions. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 15:47, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
There is a time where refusing to enter the arena is an acceptable solution to a unfair question (ex: Did they catch you murdering your wife last night?). Hey, I'm largely with you on this, Sir Kenneth Kho. Your statement at RFAR was helpful. I'm hoping for calm response and offering Tony an option. But I'd rather see a full case than see an action by motion under these circumstances. I want Tony to be able to affect the outcome in his favor. BusterD (talk) 15:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
I think ArbCom would still expect "I did not murder my wife" there. I recognize we are much on the same page. I don't mind a full case, but this is only if Tony is willing to attend that months-long process, it would help if he can confirm that. I also add that Tony might be unfamiliar with modern ArbCom processes.Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 16:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Tony could choose his battles in a full case. He would have allies and advisors in such a case. Strangers wouldn't be coming along disrespecting him simply because the pedia changed and he didn't know or think it worth his time to do so. Still doesn't know. BusterD (talk) 16:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Given that Tony has been largely absent from the project for quite some time now (very low rate of edits over the last ~2 years), it is hardly surprising that he is silent at this time, and has been so for 5 days. Since January 2022, he's had 45 gaps in editing of a week or more, the longest being 7 weeks (which happened this year; June to August). ArbCom will not be denied their pound of flesh though, and they will forcibly desysop despite this history. It's been 4 days since they posted the motion to desysop. Tony averages that much of a gap in the last 2.5 years (see also year counts). Tony's not used admin privileges in 17 months. Nevertheless, ArbCom's quite certain there is a pressing emergency at hand though, and have to desysop pronto. So glad we have ArbCom to defend our project against such threats. More seriously; the utter contempt and disrespect ArbCom has shown for an editor who has contributed more than 700 articles to the project is utterly despicable. If they want to tear the man down, fine they can tear the man down. But you can still do that with respect and dignity, not with summary judgment like this. The end of ArbCom can't happen soon enough. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:06, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Arbitration motion regarding Marine 69-71

The Arbitration Committee has resolved by motion that:

Marine 69-71 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)'s administrative privileges are revoked. He may apply to have them reinstated at any time via a new request for adminship.

For the Arbitration Committee, SilverLocust 💬 18:17, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Discuss this at: Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Arbitration motion regarding Marine 69-71

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Request

I am very disappointed with the fact that my admin. tools have been removed. I have been in this project for many years and I have hundreds of articules on my watchlist. I used my tools to revert unsourced information which are sometimes posted by vandals.

As a Wikipedian I have received many recognitions for my written work. However,, a certain admin here has recently began to haraze me continuesly and as such I guess said person can now be happy that my tools were removed. Please return my tools if you believe that this action was unjustified. Thank you. Tony the Marine (talk) 20:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Tony, I am not asking you to confirm or deny that I am the "certain admin". However, if I am the person to whom you refer, please understand that I tried exceptionally hard to defend you in all this. Please see this diff right on your talk page; I wanted to discuss the overall situation with you in private. I didn't expect ArbCom was going to back off their insistence on desysopping you. I was hoping to get some sort of dignity out of all of it for you. ArbCom has treated you with contempt. Given the enormous body of work that you have contributed to this project, it is absolutely shameful that they have treated you in the way they have. I hold you in the utmost respect, as I said 15 years ago and still hold strongly to now. I know many other people do as well as I expressed to you 13 years ago . You thanked me for the advice then. The advice I have given to you on your talk page now is meant in the same vein, never to harass you but to lift you up. If I have given you pause to think otherwise, then I deeply apologize. --Hammersoft (talk) 01:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
No my friend, I consider you among the best members of this project. I thank you for being in this project. Tony the Marine (talk) 02:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
My impression is that he has been extended as much dignity as possible, but at the same time it is difficult for the community to make exceptions to rules without compromising the egalitarian ethos of the project.
Motions are not inherently disrespectful, it could have been a quick way to dismiss the case and leave with an admonishment, but at the same time it is a WP:SNOW instance to desysop by motion if the party that fails to participate is an admin. Kenneth Kho (talk) 07:11, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
Seriously? From the get go, you made it clear this was going to be a desysop (and I wasn't the only one to think so) . Now you're suggesting there might be a pathway back through ArbCom? As a first step in that process, Tony should spend an hour reading all of the RFAR and probably twice that much trying to process and respond to it? It is blatantly obvious there is no pathway back through ArbCom. Reading the RFAR is a total waste of time for appealing to ArbCom. And people think I'm giving bad advice? Wow. Just absolutely wow. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
@Hammersoft A desysop was not a foregone conclusion. I meant that this issue could be resolved by motion, one of whose options might be a desysop. I wasn't going to vote to deysysop until the particular diff in question was unearthed. I think you're right, I doubt we'd undo our decision here, and I said as much. Still, it's certainly not going to be undone on our end unless he does understand what our issue was. And he won't survive RFA unless he understands either. Though I doubt he'd survive at RfA currently if just because of his low activity and need for the tools. Perhaps I should've just given him the advice of "your goose is cooked," but that seemed not entirely true, and not a helpful "if you really want it...heres what to do next." Understanding his issues is necessary, but not sufficient, to regain the tools. At any rate, I agree with you that this doesn't diminish Tony's many incredible lifetime achievements to Misplaced Pages. CaptainEek 18:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Tony, you haven't used admin privs in 17 months, and 2.5 years outside of your userspace (just blocking an IP that was affecting your userspace in that time). Even if you did attempt an RfA, a common opposition point people have these days is whether there is a need for the tools. You never did use the tools that much when you did have them, and essentially haven't for 2.5 years. Regardless of the RFAR and what it uncovered, attempting an RfA would likely fail just on those grounds alone. Some things we just have to accept and move on from. There's nothing you've done in the past 2.5 years that you can't do now. If you need an admin action, make a request at an appropriate notification point. The recognition you have received from multiple vectors for your work here is not affected nor tarnished. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank You.

I want to thank all of the partctpants who backed me up during the conversation aimed at the elimination of my admin. tools. I am very grateful for your support. Bess you all. Tony the Marine (talk) 00:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving

I would like to wish you all a very Happy and blessed Thanksgiving. Tony the Marine (talk) 04:44, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Happy belated Thanksgiving, Tony! Kenneth Kho (talk) 07:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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