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The link to the video that the article links to no longer works, so I removed the link, considering how this might be mis-interpreted, I thought it prudent to mention why. I was unable to find a suitable replacement for this link. ] 2004-10-22 16:14:15 EDT |
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No worries, I found a new link] 23:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC) |
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The language at the bottom of the video and picture is Arabic, not Urdu. - Dr. Ayesha Ahmed Ali. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 06:24, 19 September 2005 (UTC) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> |
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I'm not too sure if the text displayed in the Daniel Pearl video is in Urdu or Arabic. ] 22:30, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC) |
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==Pearl never says on the video that he is a spy for Israel== |
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I removed this statement from the video section. It's not that I disagree with it, just that it's not very encylopedic to include things he didn't say on the video. Otherwise it would be a very long article. ] 14:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC) |
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== This is an encyclopedia - let's keep it this way, shall we? == |
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*Links to beheadings and senseless stupidities like this should be kept away. This should be final. (Anon posting) |
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*'''NO'''. Those links are relevant and they shall stay. ] 22:40, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC) |
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* WhisperToMe, this is supposed to be an encyclopedia. If you want links to behadings, go to Rotten.com. |
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* We made a decision at the ] article that beheading links are allowed. They are historical documents. ] 22:27, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC) |
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* WhisperToMe: you might want to look at the ] page, then, where one user unilaterally removed the video link (didn't like it, wouldn't even look at it to confirm a factual point). RG 16 Dec 2004. |
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* I reverted him too... ] 04:06, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC) |
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* Ack, he reverted me... I'm not gonna start and edit war, so I'll just wait around... ] 04:35, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC) |
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* Removed link to video. I am a friend of the family. This kind of sick fascination should not be encouraged. How about this page which used to come up when you typed "daniel pearl videotape" into google: http://home.nyc.rr.com/janegalt/Videotapes.htm --] 23:56, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC) |
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* No. I'm reverting you. ] 18:58, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
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* Laura, we are about showing information, not about morality. And we know that the Pearl video is a historical document. ] 20:49, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
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* It's not about morality. It's about selective information. By choosing what percentage of an article is related to a certain aspect of the topic, you slant it. Why is most of this article about the video and not about Danny's life? This page is called Daniel Pearl, not Daniel Pearl Video. ''The video is an entity in and of itself'' which is completely separate from the human person "Daniel Pearl". I propose that a new topic be started called Daniel Pearl Video. That way people can decide what they want to read about. Those who are fascinated with death videos get what they want, and those who want to read about the life of a noted journalist can read about him. This could apply to Nick Berg as well, perhaps ending some of the controversy in both areas. --] 23:56, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC) |
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**Laura, I understand your position and you make some very good points. The video ''is'' an entity unto itself. However, looking at this article, I don't believe that splitting it into a separate article is the best course of action. As painful or offensive as it may be, Daniel Pearl is notable because of his death and the fact that there's a video of it. I don't believe that we should separate this article from what makes it notable. The video section probably could be cleaned up a bit, but it's not of excessive length. The video itself is an external link, so people still have to choose to watch it. I don't like the fact that this tape exists, but since it's a reality, Misplaced Pages should acknowledge it. ] | ] 02:05, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
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* Because in an encyclopedia, we like to focus on why this person is notable. This article cannot become a "memorial" type article. ] 00:22, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
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* The beheading part of the video is absolutely not necessary to watch if you want to learn something about the events which made DP an interesting topic. Videos showing the beheading should be removed. Misplaced Pages is providing factual information just like a normal lexicon. Would you find a picture of a beheaded human when looking up "decapitation" in a lexicon? I promise not. Let's keep wikipedia clean and factual just like an encyclopedia should be. I don't say anything against the video generally, but vidoes showing the beheading are not necessary! Removing is advisable, too, because most visitor don't expect such a cruel footage when looking up an encyclopedia. I hope sensation-prurience doesn't find its way into wikipedia. ] |
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::''psst, wikipedia isn't a "lexicon", it is an encyclopedia. Wiktionary on the other hand is a "lexicon". A "lexicon" is a dictionary (more precisely a dictionary is a recorded lexicon). Just thought you might like to know. BTW, why is everyone putting bullet-points in front of their responses in leiu of threading? It makes it much easier to read if you thread your responses (to thread put colons ':' in front of your response, 1 for a response, 2 for a response to a response...etc). Bullet points are for something else'' ] 01:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC) |
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* I still don't understand why this article cannot be a memorial article. This article is about a person who is dead. What you think Danny is notable for is purely a matter of your point of view. It is a matter of opinion as to what someone is notable for. Many would say that Daniel Pearl is notable because he was a prominent journalist who was murdered in the course of doing his job. Many would say the video is a postscript. My proposal above would not change the content of the page and would be a workable compromise solution which would avoid people being horrified by the video sections (not just me by the way). It annoys me that if I were to change this page it would be changed back because I would be seen as "hijacking" the page. I am going to submit this as a NPOV site. --] Aug 11, 2005 (UTC) |
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** The article must not be a memorial because that would violate neutrality. This makes your NPOV threat rather ironic. You, in fact, are the one lacking a neutral point of view. Misplaced Pages's purpose is not to promote an opinion, or to celebrate any of its topics (as a memorial would do). I personally do Not want to see the video. However, I do want it linked to from the page, because it is highly relevant to the page's topic, Daniel Pearl. You are not in a position to offer compromises. You are just one person, and this is a democratic forum. No one would be forced to watch the video upon arriving at the page. - Jmalcolmg |
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*Laura, if we allowed memorial articles, there would be an article for every person who had ever died. Misplaced Pages is for encyclopaedic information, and to be frank, the only part about Daniel Pearl which is notable is the fact that he was one of the first hostages to be taken by Middle-Eastern terrorists in the war on terror. See ]. "Memorials. It's often sad when people die, but Misplaced Pages is not the place to honor them. Subjects of encyclopedia articles must have a claim to fame besides being fondly remembered by their friends and relatives." -] |
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* Definitely we should not treat the entry on Daniel Pearl as a memorial page, no matter how much at a personal level I share the compassion and condolence towards his family and loved ones. For this entry is just one among many other entries in an encyclopedia which aim to provide information "as it is" to the majority regardless of the personal bias that one viewer may hold. However the final decision on whether to keep Daniel Pearl's video is debatable. Personally I vow never to open such links as I do not think myself as capable of handling images of gore: I would throw up. What's more, think about this: if Pamela Anderson is notable for her pornographic acts, do we then include links to pornographic sites featuring her videos? Definitely those videos made her notable! But then again it's just my personal opinion. Therefore I believe that by holding a vote on this matter so that the majority can decide, we may have a final solution. -] Aug 21, 2005 |
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* I suggest we keep the video there, it's your choice if you view it - again see ] - Misplaced Pages is not censored for the protection of minors ("Misplaced Pages may contain content that some readers consider objectionable or offensive. Anyone reading Misplaced Pages can edit an article and the changes are displayed instantaneously without any checking to ensure appropriateness, so Misplaced Pages cannot guarantee that articles or images are appropriate for children or adhere to specific social norms. While obviously inappropriate content (such as inappropriate links to shock sites) is usually removed immediately, except from an article directly concerning the content (such as the article about pornography), some articles may include objectionable text, images, or links, provided they do not violate any of our existing policies (especially Neutral point of view), nor the law of the state of Florida in the United States, where the servers are hosted." -] 00:51, 23 August 2005 (UTC) |
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* As others have said, articles on people are there because they are notable. In this case, Daniel Pearl is notable for his capture and death whether we like it or not. The video is a key portion of that and it worthy of inclusion together with an approrpiate warning. BTW, the Pamela Anderson article indeed has a list of the playboy editions she has appeared in. It doesn't have a link to the infamous Tommy Lee video for several reasons I suspect. Firstly its legality is in question. Secondly although it's a significant part of Pamela's notriety, it is not the only reason she is notable. ] 11:01, 12 October 2005 (UTC) |
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* laurap414 does not have a valid say in this matter in my opinion because of her obvious personal relations with Daniel Pearl. As has been said Daniel Pearl is only famous due to him being beheaded during the Middle Eastern conflict, and the video (regardless of whether I like it or not) provides an informational supplement to this article. ] 17:03, 2 February 2006 (UTC) |
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* Everyone has a valid say, that's the beauty of wikipedia. Let's all try and keep this polite and have a civil, calm discussion, OK? See ]. First "personal relations" implies I knew Danny -- I did not, I only know his family. Second, I am not suggesting this be a "memorial" like I would create a page for my grandmother. Rather a balanced view of someone who both made news and was in the news. I wish someone who worked for the WSJ would weigh in, I think they could provide an interesting opinion. ] 03:26, 7 April 2006 (UTC) |
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* Wow, this discussion is still ongoing? This was one of my first contributions. Anyway, I reaffirm what I said before, but disagree with Genjix. Just because laurap has a conflict of interest does not mean she is incapable of making reasoned arguments (not suggesting that she does have a conflict of interest). A link to the video is appropriate, an inline screenshot of the video is not. Let's give the reader a choice in the matter. ]<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>\<sup>]</sup> 12:38, 25 April 2006 (UTC) |
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* So it seems the agreement is to keep it - where is it then?--] 07:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC) |
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* I'm coming to this debate pretty late in it, however, Trailblazer made an excellent point. If you condone linking an article of a person to a video simply to show why that person is notable, then by all means go back and link the articles on Pam Anderson, Jenna Lewis etc etc to videos of their sexual exploits. There is a link on his wiki page for the on air suicide of R. Budd Dwyer. Do we then link to other videos of public suicides/murders if they involve people or places who have a Wiki page about them? I see very little difference between sex tapes, or videos of death. I wont try and convince people that these are good or bad things (the videos) however I think they fall into the same catagory and a set standard or decision made for inclusion need to be decided, rather than the edit/revert, edit/revert cycle that seems to go on. ] 15:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC) |
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*I added the video back for all the reasons stated above. ~ JmalcolmG, Amherst |
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== Did Daniel die for any reason? == |
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No. Daniel's murder was just a demonstration of the extremist views of his captors. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== The Language is Arabic, not Urdu == |
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The language at the bottom of the video and picture is Arabic, not Urdu. - Dr. Ayesha Ahmed Ali. |
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== "Conspiracy theorists" == |
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"Conspiracy theorists allege Daniel Pearl was an Israeli secret agent who infiltrated the ] network and he was beheaded by militants for betraying ]." |
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I changed "conspiracy theorists" to "some", as the former is pejorative and seems to be a POV problem. After all, he was killed by a conspiracy either way. ] 20:26, 28 September 2005 (UTC) |
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:I have also added that some suggest he is a CIA agent ] 11:01, 12 October 2005 (UTC) |
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:Would "Some Pakistanis" be more specific? And if we're adding speculation, how about the allegations that India was behind the kidnapping? ] 14:53, 29 October 2005 (UTC) |
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::The truth of the matter is we will never know the truth but given the background of the case, allegations of his being a spy or secret agent is relevant to the case. It is unlikely we will ever know whether he was a secret agent. Allegations that India are behind the kidnapping are irrelvant to the case at hand and should not be added unless substatiated. Also Some Pakistanis is too specific since there are surely some non Pakistanis. ] 11:56, 20 December 2005 (UTC) |
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== Possible incorrect statement == |
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Pearl is under the "Category:Mizrahi Jews". I would think "Pearl" is an ] name. Can anyone verify? --] 22:06, 23 March 2006 (UTC) |
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:The article says that his mother is "an Iraqi Jew." This would technically make him a Mizrahi Jew, though possibly a 'mixed Jew' if his father is Ashkenazi (inherited the name through his father). --] 09:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC) |
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I thought jews that had the last name "Pearl" was because their ancesters dealt in pearls - like "Goldman" was somebody who's ancesters dealt in gold, and "Silverman" was somebody who's ancesters dealt in silver, etc - like "Smith" indicates somebody who's ancesters were some sort of blacksmith or shoesmith or something. Other than that, I thought jewish names often indicated places (where their ancesters were from) or objects ("Tisch" which means "table" in yiddish). So I just assumed that his ancesters dealt in pearls, and it didn't indicate sephardic or ashkenazi. Is this incorrect? |
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== Why was Pearl even on this assignment == |
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Does anybody know why Pearl was even on this assignment? Why he accepted it? And why his Wall Street Journal editors even allowed it? I mean, it just seems incredibly stupid to me to have a jew - particularly an American jew - go to Pakistan to interview al-Queda personnel. I've always been flabbergasted by this, but have never seen a discussion of it. There is nothing in the Misplaced Pages article that I can see pertaining to this. I mean, it seems to me that his WSJ editors were almost partially complicit in this, and Pearl himself . . . . well, beats me why he did it. Also, the Wiki article says that he was there to investigate supposed connections between al-Queda and the Pakistani government - but I always heard that one of the main reasons he went was to "ask them why they hate us so much" - which, if true, is an incredibly naive motive. I'm flabbergasted by the whole thing - I think it's disgraceful that The Wall Street Journal has never acknowledged some level of responsibility for his death. Have they even denied this? Or has their simply been silence on their part? If so, is that because no reporter has ever asked them this obvious question? Thanks in advance. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:41, 25 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The theory is that the whole business about Pearl supposedly being there to interview Al-Queda to ask them "Why do you hate us?" is a nonsense cover story. Obviously, he didn't have to meet Al-Queda operatives to find that out - all he had to do was ask any Muslim employee at his employer, The Wall Street Journal, and they could have told him. The theory is that he was on a spy mission, most probably there to locate top Al-Queda operatives so that Special Forces could take them out. Certainly, as you say, the stated reasons that were given don't make sense. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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"He was kidnapped and DESTROYED in Karachi" |
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==Anon commentary== |
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Please stop changing what I edit. The killers of Pearl said they killed him after nine days which is February 1 2002. Please stop changing it or I shall kick your asses. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> (14:44, 28 June 2006) |
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:It was probably put there by a pro-jihadi. They love to talk about how they "slaughter" "destroy" and "annihilate" their victims. ] 06:03, 27 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:Roland, before you get too involved with that anon's comments, check out his talk page. ] 15:00, 27 September 2006 (UTC) |
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==Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh== |
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Pls see ]. Some guys are trying to blank out referenced information from that article . ] 04:16, 29 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Death sentence == |
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What has happened to the culprits? One was sentenced to death - was sentence executed? Plus - the final para of the Aftermath section has a broken sentence that I don't understand.--] 20:29, 10 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Poor Wording== |
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The following two sentences seem poorly worded. The first sentences makes no sense, and the re-use of the word formally in the second sentence reads poorly in my opinion. |
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<blockquote>Her claim was formally rejected beneficiaries to relatives of those who died at the three attack sites. On March 31, 2004 , Mariane Pearl formally appealed the decision.</blockquote> --] 04:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Beheading video and quotes removal == |
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If a guest (anon) tries to remove videos or quotes too much, block the page so that it doesn't happen. We know the Misplaced Pages stance on beheading videos and graphic text; they are to stay. If the families don't like it, that's their fault for not liking it. ] 05:09, 15 October 2006 (UTC) |
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That's a disgusting stance to take, teenager. -Anon |
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:Why is it gone again?--] 12:14, 29 November 2006 (UTC) |
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<s>Strike-through text</s>] |
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oh my lock him up, hes a teenager, his opinion is clearly flawed ] 10:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC) |
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I second Catintheoven. I don't get these people who do not want others to view the execution videos. These videos are historical documents and they show what other people went through. Come on, guys. ] 21:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC) |
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:"If the families don't like it, that's their fault for not liking it" please explain how not liking watching your son's head getting chopped off is something to be described as a "fault". |
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:: It's attempting to prevent a democratic forum from providing a thorough historical account that would be the fault ~ JmalcolmG |
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This is an informational and equal-opportunity forum, not a site for sadistic or voyeuristic endeavors. If you are interested in watching a video of murder, I am sure you could find an Al-Qaida sponsored site that would provide you with all the murder-filled footage you could ask for. |
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::: I have mixed feelings about the issue. There are many subjects and images on Misplaced Pages that could be deemed disturbing or disgusting or pornographic-yet if we want the truth about things then I believe there is some justification in allowing them to stay. Articles on human sexuality are controversial when they contain explicit pictures but if we are to have an article on say ejaculations or smegma or shit then why not include the pictures in all their glory? However I must admit that I watched the beheading video of Eugene Armstrong three years ago and frankly it was the most disturbing and horrible thing I have ever witnessed. The image still haunts me to this day and I would think it reasonable that some sort of warning regarding the images is neccesary and perhaps we need to ask ourselves-does the video really add anything more to the article? If it does not then perhaps it is wise to omit it-but if we are to have an article on beheadings in general then there is clearly a case for it's inclusion Godfinger 18:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:::: ] - Pearl, Armstrong, etc. are known for being beheaded. Therefore, we must mention the videos. ] 20:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC) |
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My two cents: All resources should be included and discussed. This is not a memorial site, it is an encyclopedia. |
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--] (]) 06:44, 15 November 2009 (UTC) |
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:I think the problem here is that it is politically incorrect to include links to beheadings. On the other hand, the article is slanted and incomplete without them. Given that the Misplaced Pages community cannot stomach links to beheadings, I think what we should do is leave out entirely any reference to his having been beheaded. Just leave it out. Just say that he was killed. Or not even that - just say he died. Still, that would make the article even more incomplete. Therefore, the only real way to deal with this is to delete the article on Daniel Pearl. The whole thing is unpleasant to read about - think about it, children might read this article. This article should be deleted. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:21, 30 December 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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citations are needed for the ISI link.<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]){{#if:{{{2|}}}| {{{2}}}|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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:I'm not sure what you mean. Put a <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> tag after what needs a citation. ] <sup>]</sup> 02:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC) |
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Cna someone justify the addition of the "Islam and anti-semitism" category? What does his death have to do with the Islamic faith?] 20:54, 24 March 2007 (UTC) |
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:Simply because of the Islamic nature in which they killed him. The radical Islamists that killed him made excessive references to Islam and the fact that Pearl was Jewish. --] 21:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC) |
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== Pak tag being added == |
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Im adding the Pakistani tag to make sure that Pakistani project members can also help and keep out any biased anti-Pakistan POV or propaganda that anyone may try to insert.-] 07:07, 28 June 2007 (UTC) |
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In the "Arrests" section, reference is made to KSM's confession from 2002. However, a recent New Yorker article (Black Sites, August 13 2007) refers to his arrest in Pakistan in March of 2003. ] 13:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== KSM Confession Claimed False == |
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Wasn't real sure how to incorporate this into the article without screwing up the existing "arrests" section. |
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http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2007/s1941988.htm |
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BOB BAER, FORMER CIA OFFICER AND AUTHOR, "SEE NO EVIL": Khalid Sheik Mohammed was water-boarded. He was probably already unstable. He's made this fantastic confession to the Pentagon and '''I know for a fact from numerous sources that we know precisely who cut off Danny Pearl’s head and it was not Khalid Sheik Mohammed'''. |
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So you got a false, you know, he was water-boarded, as I understand, sleep deprivation, cold, hot, the whole thing, and none of it worked. |
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==A note on captions== |
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Captions should serve to describe the actual scene in the the picture, not the label that an interested party gave to the picture, especially when this party is a sick murderer. The latter is explicated in the text, there is no point repeating it under the picture. |
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Imagine a video of a rape scene labeled by the rapist: "The holy matrimony". Would Misplaced Pages insist on using this label? |
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The argument given by one of the editors, to the fact that no English speaking person would believe the spy accusation implied by the title is short-sighted. There are unfortunately many English speaking lunatics who are aroused by cruelty. And there are many young readers who do not know who Daniel Pearl was. |
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The same applies to KSM sentence starting: "Then he added..." It repeats later in the text. I do not think its so important to give this monster a platform to repeat his boasting on the very first paragraph of this entry. |
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If anything, quote the victim on the first paragraph, not the murderer. Again, you are underestimating the power of Orwellianism. ] 17:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC) |
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== ] == |
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], a suspect in Pearl's killing, should be mentioned in the article. ] 22:23, 13 November 2007 (UTC) |
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== Music == |
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Daniel Pearl's parents telephoned the Scottish composer, David Heath, to commission a piece of music to remember his son by. "A song for Daniel Pearl" was the result. Part of this music was then used in a film about his life, "The Journalist and the Jihadi". I think this should be mentioned somewhere in the article. i don't have any sources, but there must be some out there. --] (]) 18:59, 7 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVAL == |
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Under the Murder section, there is a sentence that states "Using the email address" but does not list the actual address. It is bad grammar and it is OBVIOUS that a word is missing there. I keep getting told I am VANDALISING the article by trying to correct it. Can someone who is not considered a VANDAL please either correct this to list the email address or take the reference to it out so that it reads better? It looks awful as is. ] (]) 18:21, 2 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Final words in section Aftermath == |
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According to article from the ], there are some issues regarding his last words in the section "Aftermath". Does anybody more familiar with this article want to have a look at it? If not, I will add a link and comment myself. |
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According to article from the ], there are some issues regarding his last words in the section "Aftermath". Does anybody more familiar with this article want to have a look at it? If not, I will add a link and comment myself. |
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Cheers, <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - ''']''' - 07.05.2008 06:54</small> |
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Cheers, <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - ''']''' - 07.05.2008 06:54</small> 06:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== New Image == |
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Hey all! I took this picture at the ] and dunno where it should go in the article. Feel free to put it in its right place. <b><font color="Indigo">]</font> | <font color="MidnightBlue" size="1"><sup>]</sup></font></b> 09:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== question... == |
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This source says the closure of the Guantanamo detention camp was among the demands those who had kidnapped Daniel Pearl had called for. |
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So does this material belong in this article? ] (]) 21:16, 25 January 2009 (UTC) |
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| url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5goJTU6Kyp6CHBOOZye_V2qEAbXRg |
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| title=Guantanamo closure a blow to Al-Qaeda propaganda: analysts |
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| quote=''In Pakistan, the kidnappers of US journalist Daniel Pearl demanded the closure of Guantanamo Bay before they beheaded him in 2002. |
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== Requested Removal / Rewrite == |
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"In his book In the Line of Fire, then-President of Pakistan Pervez Musharraf stated that Pearl was murdered by an agent of MI6, who at some point became a double agent." |
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This statement seems to deliberately omit the fact that the person Musharraf names as a former MI6 contract agent is Omar Sheikh, a known terrorist since the mid 90s. Further, Musharraf makes no claim that Omar Sheikh was working for MI6 at the time of the murder. Instead he claims Omar Sheikh "went rogue or became a double agent" sometime before 1994. |
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The statement as it stands seems to direct the reader to think Pearl was killed by an active and regular member of British Intelligence. Advise it either be rewritten or completely removed. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Requested Rewrite == |
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Also, this line doesn't make sense: |
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"In the video, Pearl's body is shown naked from the waist up with his throat slit at about one minute and 55 seconds into the video, by which time he would have bled to death." <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 06:39, 15 November 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Regarding Wall Street Journal work in Washington DC == |
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The article states: |
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"Pearl began at the Wall Street Journal's Atlanta bureau in 1990, moving to the Washington, D.C., bureau in 1993 to cover telecommunications, and then to the London bureau in 1996." I was looking for this point specifically, because I met Danny Pearly one night, in DC, during that time, in a bar, having a beer with a friend, and he told me that he was the Transportation or Aviation reporter for the Wall Street Journal. So I wanted to check to be 100% sure that the guy I met was the one-and-same Daniel Pearl. (Obviously I was shocked when the kidnapping appeared on the news years later, because I did remember meeting him.) So I followed a link from the References section of this Misplaced Pages article to an outside page about his writings at the Wall Street Journal. http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB111634569601635866.html?mod=2_1150_1 Sure enough, that pate states he was a Transportation reporter at WSJ in Washington, D.C. So..... I think you need to correct "telecommunications" to "transportation", and possibly add "aviation" as well. |
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Here is text from the linked page. I believe this text is correct, as it is from the book by the author who knew him personally. |
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About Daniel Pearl |
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Daniel Pearl was named South Asia bureau chief of The Wall Street Journal, based in Bombay, India, in December 2000. He joined The Wall Street Journal as a reporter in Atlanta in November 1990 and moved to Washington, D.C., in 1993 to cover transportation. |
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In January 1996 he moved to London, and in February 1998 began reporting from the Journal's Paris bureau. Mr. Pearl had been a reporter for the North Adams, Mass., Transcript in 1986; the Springfield, Mass., Union News in 1987 and the Berkshire Eagle in Pittsfield, Mass., 1988, where he won an American Planning Association Award for a five-part series on land use. |
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A Princeton, N.J., native, Mr. Pearl graduated from Stanford University with a bachelor's degree in communications. He married Mariane, a French journalist, in 1999; A few months before his abduction on Jan. 23, 2002, the couple learned she was pregnant; a few days before the abduction, they discovered the child would be a boy. Their son, Adam D. Pearl, was born on May 28, 2002, in Paris. |
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== Vandalism of page == |
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I don't have a login so I am trying the "4 tildes" signature - hope this works and you can see my input. Thanks. ] (]) 10:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC) |
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Reverting edits from address 2601:584:c300:cf50:246b:cc12:8a28:9935 to last coherent point at 06:21, 17 May 2024 by TheDoodbly ; seems to be a series of nonsensical edits. |
Reverting edits from address 2601:584:c300:cf50:246b:cc12:8a28:9935 to last coherent point at 06:21, 17 May 2024 by TheDoodbly ; seems to be a series of nonsensical edits.
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