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Hey Barkeep! Let's coordinate! I just got an edit conflict with one of your Newbery articles. Which ones do you want me to work on? Shall we split by decades? ] | ] 16:36, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
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== January music ==
Or, since you seem to be trucking along pretty fast, would it be better if I came in behind you and expanded the articles a bit? ] | ] 16:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
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Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). -- ] (]) 16:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


Now: ], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Ok. I have a pretty decent reference book here for books up through 2000. I can come along behind you and add a sentence or two of detail to the articles. ] | ] 16:58, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


I managed a few more pics and the first precious ;) - If you have a few seconds please look into the ''Sacrifice'' trailer, see her speak ... --] (]) 17:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:While doing my job as a ], I have noticed that you and ] are creating several articles about Newbery winners. I am sure there are some in the Misplaced Pages community that would feel that the list of recipients in the ] article is sufficient and that each book having its own article is overkill and not ]. For now, I am going to indicate that each new article has been patrolled, on the basis that each book article should be improved in the future to include at least a basic story line. That is the kind of information our Misplaced Pages users would be looking for, and that is why we are all here, isn't it. Thanks. ] (]) 18:05, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Great collaboration, Storye book found the pic, MONTENSEM wrote the lead after adding detail, and I feel you know a lot about the person after reading just that. (No discussion about an infobox, as for an estimated 95% of composers' articles. They have become normal, ], did you know?) --] (]) 09:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
*Good luck to both of you creating these stubs, and good luck turning them into articles. This is useful stuff! ] (]) 18:26, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


Today we have the next composer of the kind, mentioned ] with two others. When I saw the TFP of ], however, I was inclined to help him to more accessibily but dropped it when I looked at the article history. I try to avoid conflict. I only step in when someone ''new'' to the strangest "contentious topic" I have encountered on WP gets treated as a warrior. I wonder what could stop that, - assuming good faith should be the first approach, no? --] (]) 14:14, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
:In the future, would you please use the <nowiki>{{Reflist}}</nowiki> template instead of the <nowiki><References /></nowiki> tag in the Reference section. Usage of the template is preferred and has several advantages. Thanks. ] (]) 18:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


:Good faith is so often the key to avoiding and diffusing conflict. But it's understandable why in moments it doesn't happen. Best, ] (]) 15:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
== Deutscher Jugendliteraturpreis assessment ==
:: Today's focus is another composer because he would have been 90 today, ]. There was a discussion in 2019, still on the talk, in case of interest in the study of good faith. --] (]) 22:51, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
:: I wrote the article about his opera, and smiled when quoting from it "We pounded at the doors of the mighty; unheard remained the heart-wrenched agony, our people's mournful fate!" ;) --] (]) 22:57, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
:: Today a violinist from Turkey, ], whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --] (]) 21:45, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
:: ... and today, ], ], in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author ] (who also wrote ]). --] (]) 18:17, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
:: Today I have ] (trumpeter, conductor) on the main page who worked closely with ] who became GA yesterday, - small world! To celebrate: mostly flowers pics from vacation ;) --] (]) 19:45, 20 January 2025 (UTC)


=== Precious anniversary ===
I just wanted to thank you for assessing the article ] after a long wait on the Articles for Assessment list. Thank you for your comments, which have been very helpful as I have recently updated and extended the article. The only querie I had was about your third point: formatting the article into a table. While I can see some of the benefits of this, I am not sure how it could be implemented in this particular context. Do you have any suggestions? ] <small>]</span></small> 22:50, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
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:I've mentioned this before but precious was hugely important to me as an editor and as part of this community. I appreciate the work you do in giving it out (and commemorating it). Best, ] (]) 15:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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:: Thank you! I love to do it. While I slowed down in giving, the daily routine of remembering things to be thankful for is an uplifting exercise ;) - Today, my first objective was to upgrade ] that I brought to the Main page (in poor shape, but I was too tired yesterday), - it's nominated for GA now. My story today. I'll make a story for ], although my first article this year is already off the Main page. - The second was to help finding a FA suitable for TFA on IWD. The third will be to turn to today's article, another recent death. Then a round of telling others the same things, and then I'll probably be too tired to give the first precious of the year. --] (]) 17:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Just an FYI - were you aware of {{cl|Newbery Honor winners (book)}}? Might be useful to you.
:::Well there is no deadline for telling someone they're precious, but it certainly remains appreciated by me and a highlight of my wiki creer. That other stuff is good too - all . On a different note I've read through the Rimsky-Korsakov RfC and am considering doing a close (if I do I'll need to read it through at least once more entirely). Best, ] (]) 23:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: Well, I don't care how that will be closed, seriously. --] (]) 00:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: The choreographer is my story today, although her all-too-brief on the Main page was on 5 January. Her work mentioned is based on ]. I wonder if you are aware that one of the key debates of the infoboxes arbcase is now in ] (there were two earlier), - for background or entertainment, as you like it. It contains the key argument against an infobox (at least as I see it): "Please let's not add another eyesore to another beautifully crafted article." - I think the discussion remained civil, btw. --] (]) 12:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: ] today who directed lasting performances --] (]) 21:04, 16 January 2025 (UTC)


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Hi Barkeep, you closed this thread/report at SPI ] with no action. Was that because it was filed by a sock account or because you determined Boksi and BePrepared were not sock accounts?
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:@] I only considered the BilledMammal element of that filing substantively and closed the rest of it on "it was filed by a sock" grounds. You can see at the SPI below it I do substantively consider BePrepared (and there is a new SPI open about them as well). ] (]) 01:43, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
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:Thanks. What is this DYK thing for exactly? I know it has something to do with the main page, but I'm simply not all that familiar with it. -- ] (]) 13:59, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
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Hey Barkeep! I saw you were reviewing ] at the same time as I. I noticed the page was created in one edit with "clarification needed" tags and all, so I made the edit summary of this: {{diff||1270074136}}. Is there anything else that needs to be done beyond having that statement in the edit summary for attribution? I didn't see any notice at the source page of ], which hadn't been edited since October 2024 and the split came about in December 2024. Thank you, <span style="background-color: #FFCFBF; font-variant: small-caps">] <sub>(''']''' / ''']''')</sub></span> 20:03, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
I know you are trying to organise bot tagging of categories for WikiProject Children's Literature, so I thought I should let you know here that I have just adapted the Category I mentioned into a list of possible Categories to include (please see ]). While there are probably other categories which could be included, I thought I would suggest this as a reasonable starting point. ] <small>]</span></small> 11:04, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


:Thanks @]. I thought I'd seen attribution of the clear split but obviously didn't; your post facto comment suffices under the license. If I was feeling more motivated I'd have linked it back to the main article better. Best, ] (]) 20:05, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:Or alternatively you could just submit Category:Children's literature and all its sub-categories. But quite a few of them are irrelevant, and would have to be checked by hand - although probably so are a few of the categories I have listed. ] <small>]</span></small> 11:33, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


== ] closed ==
::At the moment, 'Unsure' generally means I need to check precisely what the category name is referring to before I am certain it fits in the project. As for using this as the main list or not, I don't mind, but I will keep checking through it and if you want to add any categories, feel free to do so. ] <small>]</span></small> 10:56, 26 January 2010 (UTC)


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Are you still interested in organising this? Because I've got plenty of time on my hands at the minute, so I would be happy to take over the organisation part. ] <small>]</span></small> 14:27, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


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== Peter Sis - help with references ==
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I notice you are a wiz with citations and references. I have added more content to this page but find that I'm referencing the same source several times over, which is creating a long reflist. I wondered whether you might feel like helping me fix this. Don't worry if you don't have time - I will work it out eventually myself.--] (]) 22:55, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
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: Thanks for your help on this. I understand the general point that a subject's own website may be suspect as a source of info in many cases. In this case I don't think it is but I will try to find some alternatives. Pity about the press releases. I thought since they came from the publisher, they might be as acceptable as a information on the publisher's website.--] (]) 07:04, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
:: Um. Just read the policy on citations and, unless I'm misunderstanding something, it says "''Never use...websites...'''unless written or published by the subject'''''" and refers to WP:SELFPUB criteria in the section below. Since the biog from the author's website has "copyright 2002-2008 Peter Sis" at the bottom, it appears that he has written the piece himself and so it does pass the criteria. There is no reasonable doubt about its authenticity, for instance. Re the Press releases. Since they come from the publisher, don't they count as a third party publication and therefore the biograpghical information within them can be treated as reliable (also in the ] section?--] (]) 07:21, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
::: I think the key word in the 4th criterion is "primarily", which I take to mean "mainly", so it seems that it's the proportion of the references which rely upon this source which matters. And I agree, I probably have used that source primarily. So to fix this situation, one would have to find alternative sources which make the same point, or find more references for other points so that the proportion which relied upon the author's website diminishes to less than half - at which point, the author's website ceases to be the primary source. An interesting wrinkle. I'll try to come back to this in due course but in the meantime, I'm going to finish tidying up the awards on the Sis page and then get back to the unloved pages on the unreferenced BLP pages. Thank you for your help.--] (]) 20:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)


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January music

story · music · places

Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Now: Liebster Immanuel, Herzog der Frommen, BWV 123, my story today 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. Dada Masilo will be my story tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I managed a few more pics and the first precious ;) - If you have a few seconds please look into the Sacrifice trailer, see her speak ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Great collaboration, Storye book found the pic, MONTENSEM wrote the lead after adding detail, and I feel you know a lot about the person after reading just that. (No discussion about an infobox, as for an estimated 95% of composers' articles. They have become normal, project opera removed the "no infobox" recommendation from its style guide in 2019, did you know?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Today we have the next composer of the kind, mentioned in my story with two others. When I saw the TFP of Mr. Balfe, however, I was inclined to help him to more accessibily but dropped it when I looked at the article history. I try to avoid conflict. I only step in when someone new to the strangest "contentious topic" I have encountered on WP gets treated as a warrior. I wonder what could stop that, - assuming good faith should be the first approach, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Good faith is so often the key to avoiding and diffusing conflict. But it's understandable why in moments it doesn't happen. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Today's focus is another composer because he would have been 90 today, Georg Katzer. There was a discussion in 2019, still on the talk, in case of interest in the study of good faith. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
I wrote the article about his opera, and smiled when quoting from it "We pounded at the doors of the mighty; unheard remained the heart-wrenched agony, our people's mournful fate!" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:57, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Today a violinist from Turkey, Ayla Erduran, whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
... and today, pictured on the Main page, Tosca, in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author Brian Boulton (who also wrote The Rite of Spring). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:17, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Today I have a composer (trumpeter, conductor) on the main page who worked closely with another who became GA yesterday, - small world! To celebrate: mostly flowers pics from vacation ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

I've mentioned this before but precious was hugely important to me as an editor and as part of this community. I appreciate the work you do in giving it out (and commemorating it). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! I love to do it. While I slowed down in giving, the daily routine of remembering things to be thankful for is an uplifting exercise ;) - Today, my first objective was to upgrade an article that I brought to the Main page (in poor shape, but I was too tired yesterday), - it's nominated for GA now. My story today. I'll make a story for Dada Masilo, although my first article this year is already off the Main page. - The second was to help finding a FA suitable for TFA on IWD. The third will be to turn to today's article, another recent death. Then a round of telling others the same things, and then I'll probably be too tired to give the first precious of the year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Well there is no deadline for telling someone they're precious, but it certainly remains appreciated by me and a highlight of my wiki creer. That other stuff is good too - all . On a different note I've read through the Rimsky-Korsakov RfC and am considering doing a close (if I do I'll need to read it through at least once more entirely). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Well, I don't care how that will be closed, seriously. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
The choreographer is my story today, although her all-too-brief on the Main page was on 5 January. Her work mentioned is based on The Rite of Spring. I wonder if you are aware that one of the key debates of the infoboxes arbcase is now in Talk:The Rite of Spring/Archive 3 (there were two earlier), - for background or entertainment, as you like it. It contains the key argument against an infobox (at least as I see it): "Please let's not add another eyesore to another beautifully crafted article." - I think the discussion remained civil, btw. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Otto Schenk today who directed lasting performances --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hi Barkeep, you closed this thread/report at SPI Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Icewhiz#7 January 2025 with no action. Was that because it was filed by a sock account or because you determined Boksi and BePrepared were not sock accounts?

Thank you, IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 23:37, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

@IOHANNVSVERVS I only considered the BilledMammal element of that filing substantively and closed the rest of it on "it was filed by a sock" grounds. You can see at the SPI below it I do substantively consider BePrepared (and there is a new SPI open about them as well). Barkeep49 (talk) 01:43, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
I see, thank you.
Do you think the concerns and evidence I presented warrant an SPI filing for Boksi? IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 02:27, 16 January 2025 (UTC) Nevermind for now, there's not much to go on in what I added alone. I do think they are a likely sock however, perhaps I'll gather more info and file an SPI another time. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 06:32, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

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Second set of eyes

Hey Barkeep! I saw you were reviewing History of Székesfehérvár at the same time as I. I noticed the page was created in one edit with "clarification needed" tags and all, so I made the edit summary of this: . Is there anything else that needs to be done beyond having that statement in the edit summary for attribution? I didn't see any notice at the source page of Székesfehérvár, which hadn't been edited since October 2024 and the split came about in December 2024. Thank you, Utopes (talk / cont) 20:03, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks @Utopes. I thought I'd seen attribution of the clear split but obviously didn't; your post facto comment suffices under the license. If I was feeling more motivated I'd have linked it back to the main article better. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:05, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

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