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]'s main page requires culling to limit the file size under 30 Kb as per wikipedia's recommendations. ] 19:27, May 6, 2004 (UTC) |
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== Religion in India: caste == |
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If we're going to label Hinduism as 'caste' and vice versa, we're not being faithful to reality nor NPOV. It has also to do with the nature of society and feudalism in communities that were justified by caste prejudices incorporated into religion, much like Divine Right in feudal Europe. Also, it is well-acknowledged that there does exist great caste prejudices in many non-Hindu communities in India, certainly not all, but enough that it is not merely a 'status symbol.' Also, major movements in Hinduism have, since before Buddha, been against caste. So to define all of Hinduism as embedded in caste while ignoring its history of vedanta, yoga, tantra and bhakti movements galore, is in my mind irresponsible and inaccurate. Let us discuss further. --] 20:31, May 6, 2004 (UTC) |
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:I know casteism is a curse, unfortunately it has crept into other religions in India which abhors it. You are right in pointing out that caste is a part of Hindu society. A lot of ]n ] (see any matrimonials) do brazenly proclaim that they are ''Brahmin'' Catholics, inspite of the Church against caste. |
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Unfortunately the Indian government, officially banning casteism, still has reservations for castes. I also wish to seek further opinion: Can a hindu marriage be sanctified by a priest who's a non brahmin? Are all Hindu priests necessarily Brahmin? |
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: Well, just to clarify convention. Technically, anyone who is a Hindu priest is called a Brahmin. But of course, there is the caste. People differentiate between a practicing Brahmin and one of the Brahmin caste. Unfortunately, yes, Brahmins (priests) are usually culled only from the Brahmin caste. --] 21:03, May 7, 2004 (UTC) |
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: Just to add to LordSurya's response, in many villages in Tamil Nadu, there are no Brahmins left; because of, among other reasons, the Dravidian movement, the Brahmins have all migrated to cities. Lots of village temples thus have priests who're not Brahmins. I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case in many other regions. ] ] 22:13, 7 May 2004 (UTC) |
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::Casteism hasn't crept into other religions as someone has mentioned above and in the main page. It is just that people retain or are forced to retain their caste affiliations even after conversion to other religions. ] 03:18, 8 May 2004 (UTC) |
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India's population is 1,457,248,665 as of Friday, December 27, 2024<ref>{{cite web |last1=2024 |first1=India Population |title=India Population 2024 |url=https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/india-population/ |website=morldometer |publisher=worldometer |access-date=27 December 2024}}</ref> ] (]) 10:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{Not done}}: Worldometer is unreliable. ] (]|]) 10:20, 27 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::: You are quite wrong KRS. Just recently there was an uproar in Kerala because Christian converts barred lower-castes from their church and refused to let them in. No one was forcing them to do anything.--] 05:11, May 8, 2004 (UTC) |
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== Reordering sentence in the lead == |
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Minor edit suggestion: Currently the lead reads "It is the seventh-largest country in the world by area and the most populous country.". The latter fact seems by far the more notable of the two, so you'd think "It is the most populous country in the world and the seventh-largest by area" would be a more sensible phrasing. ] (]) 17:56, 31 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:I '''support''' this. The current sentence framing has stayed the same since before India surpassed China in terms of population. I think its due for a change now ] (]) 19:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:I '''support''' this aswell. ]] 20:07, 31 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 January 2025 == |
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] (]) 18:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC) |
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Just change the language of "Hindi" to "Hindustani". Both are the same |
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: Not done. Edit requests should be uncontroversial and backed by RS. ] (]) 21:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC) |
Minor edit suggestion: Currently the lead reads "It is the seventh-largest country in the world by area and the most populous country.". The latter fact seems by far the more notable of the two, so you'd think "It is the most populous country in the world and the seventh-largest by area" would be a more sensible phrasing. IRN-Dumas (talk) 17:56, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Just change the language of "Hindi" to "Hindustani". Both are the same