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| == gun control kosher == | |||
| ==Quotes applicable to my opinion that- Misplaced Pages's belief that "verifiable" trumps the truth is stupid== | |||
| Some Wikipedian's beliefs that being verifiable is somehow more important than being the truth is dangerous. I am not the only one who believes this about "facts". Facts that are sourced and presented in wikipedia but that are not true are dangerous because they present themselves (since they are referenced) as the truth. This perpetuates things that are wrong, not only because of the proliferation of that information through "mirror-sites", but through other websites that use wikipedia for THEIR sources, and just through the people who look here and then go tell their friends. Most importantly it makes wikipedia unreliable to professors, teachers, the media, professionals/experts, and the general public. Misplaced Pages has a bad reputation not for having unsourced material, its reputation stems from just plain WRONG material. I am a '''strong''' supporter of ] and support the current push to strengthen it and make it an official guideline. | |||
| Complete aside. Hunting isn't kosher? Isn't the old testament full of stories of jews hunting? Did the rules change?] (]) 02:04, 24 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Feel free to add quotes you think that apply to this position or ones you make up yourself or just a comment supporting the position if you agree! | |||
| :It is unkosher to eat '''any''' animal, regardless of whether the animal itself would otherwise be kosher. Kosher rules demand that an animal be slaughtered in a certain way, and hunting does not allow that. Everyone in the Bible prior to Abraham was not Jewish, since he is the first Jew, the stories in the Bible that mention "so-and-so" was a hunter, such as Cain, are about non-Jews. Also, all Jewish law, including Kosher, did not come about until Moses, and if you believe some religious scholars perhaps not until much later during the period of the split kingdos of Israel and Judah.] (]) 11:24, 24 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Highest point in Albany == | |||
| * In ], any compromise between a correct statement and a wrong statement is a wrong statement. ]; pulled from ] | |||
| *I was provided with additional input that was radically different from the truth. I assisted in furthering that version. ''Colonel ]'' | |||
| *A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right. '']'' | |||
| *Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong. '']'' | |||
| *An age is called Dark, not because the light fails to shine, but because people refuse to see it. '']'' | |||
| *The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance -- it is the illusion of knowledge. '']'' | |||
| *Three minutes thought would suffice to find this out; but thought is irksome and three minutes is a long time. '']'' | |||
| *The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about | |||
| *The recipe for perpetual ignorance is: Be satisfied with your opinions and content with your knowledge. '']'' | |||
| *The evil that is in the world almost always comes of ignorance, and good intentions may do as much harm as malevolence if they lack understanding. '']'' | |||
| *] is 'What I say is right, and anyone else says could possibly be true.' It's not only that I ''feel'' it to be true, but that ''I'' feel it to be true. There's not only an emotional quality, but there's a selfish quality. '']'' | |||
| * ''a blogger, about ]'' | |||
| The only official source for any elevation in the U.S. is the ]'s maps. For Albany, I found that elevation , which can be verified from the geolinks you get to if you click the coordinates. If you're looking for a source saying that's the highest point, it's not really necessary. You just look at the map and find it—I think that's ] since it's not a question of interpretation. ] (]) 22:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *Only facts can be mistaken, never so the Fuehrer! - Ironic diary note by ] after listening to a boastful radio speech by ] in the autumn of 1939. Mann, of course, is thinking of actual ''true'' facts, not fabrications! From "Zur Zeit von Winston Churchill", Mann's diary notes from the first months of the war (highly recommended if you know German and are interested in how that time appeared to an acute onbserver caught in the middle - Mann's elegant put-downs of Hitler, his discussions of the power games and his gradual shift of main loyalty from the Soviet Union to Britain are fascinating) | |||
| == Policy discussion at Seraphimblade's == | |||
| *He seemed as easy to read as an open book, but an open book really only shows two pages out of hundreds, doesn't it? - Sven Wernström, Swedish author. | |||
| *Thinking is dangerous here, especially for non-thinkers! - ] saw a big signboard warning swimmers of perilous water currents in a lake on the fringe of then East Berlin, and just changed out the verb. | |||
| Thank you for your comments there. I responded. I think block evasion actually could possibly constitute a violation of WP:SOCK which has been tortured into saying "any impermissible use" or something like that, but policy cannot redefine the Eenglish language. ] | |||
| == Barnstar == | |||
| == "R is for retarded and A is for asshole" == | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | I award you, Camelbinky, the left half of this barnstar for your excellent combined efforts with ] for work on Capital District-related articles as of late. Note that had you ''stayed'' in retirement, you never would have been able to receive this. :-) ''']]''' 06:54, 22 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| That made me laugh. While I must disagree with you about the situation and the likely outcome, anyone who has the balls to talk like that is AOK in my book! ] (]) 09:34, 31 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == DYK for Rapp Road Community Historic District == | |||
| == Move request at Talk:Birthplace of Gautama Buddha == | |||
| Did you put that ] there intentionally? So far, no one seems to understand what it is trying to say. —] (]) 15:23, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| |On ], ''']''' was updated with {{#if:|facts|a fact}} from the article{{#if:|s|}} ''''']'''''{{#if:|{{#if:|, |, and}} ''''']''''' | |||
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| }}{{#if:|, and ''''']'''''}}, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the ]. | |||
| |} <!-- {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}} --> ] (]) 06:51, 2 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :The DYK phrase, up now, is '''Did you know''' | |||
| {{*mp}}... that during the ], the majority of ], moved to ], with some recreating a religious rural community in ''']'''? | |||
| :Hey, congratulations! ] (]) 10:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
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== Great minds think alike == | ||
| Had an edit conflict at AN. I thought I was the first to oppose the community ban on wikiexperts, but you beat me to it. Well said. I totally agree. --]2] 21:38, 12 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Tireless Contributor Barnstar''' | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | I, ], award ] the Tireless Contributor Barnstar for his efforts at ], which is thorough, including images, and must have taken an insane amount of time to create and get right. ] | <small>]</small> 05:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| == Ban Appeal of AKonanykhin == | |||
| ==Shalom brother!== | |||
| :Thank you for that, that gives me some good ideas. I do know the founder of Reform Judaism (in full disclosure I am a Reform Jew) was originally a rabbi in Albany and when he first started his philosophy a riot actually broke out at the synagogue and in the street and the police were called out. The synagogue for ] (the congregation I grew up in) in Troy is the oldest synagogue in continous use as a synagogue in the entire state. I guess those are two things I can add, the info with references are already on other articles, I just need to do a copy/paste job over to here. Oh, btw (and you can respond on my talk page since this is getting off the topic of the article) where is the synagogue for the Karaites in Albany? and I know many Jews (particularly Orthodox) dont acknowledge Karaites as full-members of the Jewish community has there been any contact or sharing of facilities or events between the Karaites and the large community of Jews in Albany? The Orthodox dont recognize Reform as "real Jews" either so we have that in common.] (]) 06:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Really interesting re: the history of the Reform movement in Albany. It would be great if you added that to the article. The Karaite synagogue is in downtown Albany. Actually, its website is the reference I added, and there's other information about it elsewhere on the Web. The Karaite community is very small and in my impression it is really held together by one person, ]. He seems to have been brought up Karaite, but a good number of the other Karaites were originally Rabbanite. I was actually raised Conservative Jewish, but I think many aspects of Rabbinic Judaism are actually over-interpretations. As one of many examples, I'm not convinced that "do not cook a kid in its mother's milk" means more than that (most other Rabbanites expand it to mean that all dairy and all meat should be separated, despite the prohibition against adding to the Torah). IMO, in Albany and elsewhere, there's just not enough Rabbanite contact with Karaites. I would like to see the Conservative, Reform and other liberal movements interpreting the text with more internal consistency, as Karaites attempt to do, and actually challenging Orthodox Judaism on theological grounds. It is unfortunate that some Orthodox Jews are so closed minded that they do not accept these other movements as Jewish, hence the riots. At least Reform Jews, Conservative Jews and Karaite Jews are allowed into Israel, we can be grateful for that. | |||
| Hi. Since you were involved in the resulting in the ban of Wikiexperts, you may want to consider the CEO's appeal at ]. --] (] · ] · ]) 16:36, 20 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
| By the way, if you would be interested in visiting the Karaite synagogue I suggest you contact the Hakham (somewhat equivalent of Rabbi) first. In imitation of the Holy Temple, the place is kept tahor (ritually pure) and there are a number of things you would need to do or not do before you enter. This is based on various passages in the Torah, and I'm actually trying to summarize these requirements as a short checklist. Supposedly it's typical of Karaite synagogues, but it's not something Rabbanites and especially Reform would be used to. As I said, this is also a relatively traditional Hakham who doesn't really seem to think about Karaite Judaism in relation to the Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist movements but is an open and welcoming person. --] (]) 14:10, 25 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
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==COI editing== | ||
| 1. Declare your COI on the talk page. 2. Mind NPOV closely. 3. Ask a couple Wikipedian content writers with no COI to review your work. If anyone flips you any shit unfairly, please get in touch with me, I'll raise hell. ] (]) 01:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hi. Please keep in mind that if an article is tagged under NYSR, the WPNY tag is redundant, and thus unnecessary. Thanks, –''']''' | ] 20:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Your msg to ] == | |||
| == Realization == | |||
| I don't really like the user name ], it surely shows a political view that I disagree with (or seems to anyway). But I don't see it as violating any part of our ]. Which part do you think it violates? ] ] 21:40, 16 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Just wanted to point out a recent realization: → ] = wow! ] | <small>]</small> 20:42, 30 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :] I believe this excerpt from the Username Policy covers his/her name, but that is just my interpretation- | |||
| :::The following types of usernames are not permitted because they are '''disruptive''' or '''offensive''': | |||
| *Usernames that are likely to offend other contributors, making harmonious editing difficult or impossible, for example ]. | |||
| *Usernames that contain or imply personal attacks. | |||
| *Usernames that seem intended to provoke emotional reaction ("]"). | |||
| ::What is your opinion?] (]) 21:44, 16 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Camelbinky, you indicated above that you believe my username to be disruptive and offensive. If that is the case, where is the disruption? Where is the offense? I have been editing under this username since July. If there were truly a disruption or an offense, I think we would have seen it by now. I prefer to keep my username as it is. I see no reason to change it. ] (]) 05:16, 17 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == County breakup graphic == | |||
| *I'm with Camelbinky on this one. "Obamaclypse" suggests something along the lines of "the end of the world", which begs the question whether, maybe, a black US president is somehow signified in the Book of Revelations or something. I find it very difficult to take seriously the edits of someone with a user name like that. So yes, I find it disruptive, and I'm on the verge of blocking. Does ] not see how others would find it disruptive? ] (]) 05:23, 17 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Drmies, it seems that you have chosen to take offense at my username. I do not find my username offensive. In fact, I find it rather amusing. If you (or Camelbinky) had come to me individually and told me what it was that you found so hurtful about my username, I may have reconsidered it. Instead, Camelbinky wrote on my userpage--with no reason or explanation--that my username was offensive, and you commented on Camelbinky's page in a way that insinuated racist intent on my part. We have some options here. If you want, you can continue to take offense at my username, I can choose to take offense at your veiled accusation of racism, and then we can waste time trading snarky remarks on each other's Misplaced Pages pages (or other people's) about how offended we are at one another. If you want, you are also free to attempt to censor my username. Then we can waste our time--and, probably, other people's--arguing about that. (You can expect me to ask questions like, "If someone chose the username 'Voodoo Economics,' would the other Wikipedians try to censor it?") I tend to think that life is too short for this stuff, and that 2013 American society--to the extent that we still have anything left that can be described as a society--spends far too much time talking about who is supposed to be offended by what. I would prefer to spend my time actually improving the encyclopedia. In closing, I would respectfully refer you to the very sensible comments made by ] above. Cheers! ] (]) 07:32, 17 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Corpse clearly has a battleground mentality of Misplaced Pages that shows his/her name is only the tip of the iceberg of a bigger problem that may lead to further disruption over any type of disagreement on Misplaced Pages. He/she does not understand how discussion and conflict resolution occurs in Misplaced Pages and has chosen instead to see discussions and differing opinions as either "ignore me and let me do what I want" or "we'll waste time and insult each other". This is not how Misplaced Pages works and such an opinion of Misplaced Pages is worse than his/her name.] (]) 13:19, 17 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::I don't see it. ]'s expresses, or seems to express, a political view, specifically a very negative view of the current President of the United States. I know many pwole who view this president negatively due to his policies and not his race. I see nothing in the name to imply a racist view, and I choose to ]. I will say that I think a less politically charged and less potentially controversial username would be better -- CMO, think how the name will look/sound in 5 years, when for good or ill someone else is President -- but i have seen other politically charged names on Misplaced Pages before and the skies didn't fall nor the servers crash. As to a battle ground mentality, it was sugested in this discussion that CMO had racist motivs for his name, and he objected, said there could be a long fight, but that he "would prefer to spend my time actually improving the encyclopedia". He hasn't as far as I can tell (after a brief look at his recent edits) been editing disruptively or POV-pushing. In fact his editing seems to be helpful to the project. I think you would do well to drop the matter. But if you really feel that this user name is too disruptive to work with, then you should start an open RFC and see what the community position is. CMO, You might want to consider a change to a less overtly political name, but I don't think our current policy in any way requires you to do so. ] ] 14:17, 17 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *Can anyone point out to the Corpse Man that I didn't "insinuate racist intent"? That I didn't say anything about "hurtful", just "disruptive"? That there is no question of "censorship"? Corpse, you don't seem to understand a basic point: of course you don't find your own user name disruptive, but that doesn't mean others can't. We teach that kind of stuff in elementary school: "disruption" doesn't pertain to your opinion, but to that of those you have to work with in a collaborative project. There's two editors here that have a problem with it, and you accuse them of things they didn't say. Now, DESiegel doesn't agree with me and Camelbinky, and that's fine. If I had thought that your user name was a clear violation, I would have blocked you already. Instead I asked you to consider ''changing'' your name, which you respond to with all kinds of irrelevant rhetoric ("it seems that you have chosen to take offense at my username"? well, you ''chose'' the name and I took offense to it, yes) and a claim of "don't call me a racist and censor me". In other words, "help I'm being oppressed". Well, you're not. You picked a name which evidently some people find offensive and you don't care. That's fine. Just don't expect ''this'' administrator to help you out if you need help. Camelbinky, I'll leave this be, and you're welcome to remove this reply, or indeed the entire thread. Thank you for sticking your neck out. ] (]) 15:07, 17 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::You're welcome Drmies, it doesn't always work but I'm always willing to stick my neck out to make sure things that I think need to get attention, get attention. I'll leave this thread up and originally I had gone to Jimbo's page with the question of what to do about a name like this, I think others may come here or take other action, or speak up in CMO's defense as well. I do see the battleground mentality in CMO's use of rhetoric and saying the options are for us to drop it or to go back and forth in snarky comments. I don't see, especially the second, being legitimate options and if CMO truly thinks snarky comments back and forth is a proper option- then someone needs to keep an eye on him/her for the future.] (]) 16:14, 17 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Good catch == | |||
| I just made ], which should be overwritten by a higher quality SVG . Would you provide a source for this? If you want GA or FA for Capital District, this image will have to be sourced. Feel free to list it on the ]. Also, the dates of each county's creation (or split) would be nice to include in the graphic. Do you know this information? We can have it added when you find out. Also, please take a look at the caption I gave the graphic in the article; it lacks in many ways and could use some rewriting by you. Thanks sir. ''']]''' 05:41, 31 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| My, was poorly phrased, having such a wide scope. Good catch! // <b>]</b>] 22:31, 20 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Thanks (ref: Glens Falls talk) == | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Camelbinky, thank you for suggesting that I bring a discussion to the village pump. I'm not very familiar with what the pump is all about, but I'll be checking it out soon. --] (]) 06:06, 1 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :The village pump is basically just where you ask a general question that just hasnt been addressed and has no policy or guideline to cover it and see what different editors have to say, there might not necessarily be a definitive answer but at least a good idea of where the community stands can be seen. I recommend bringing it to ], the question does seem to be about policy even though your specific question is about one person in one article I would think the broad version of this question applies to just about every municipality/settlement article in English-language Misplaced Pages and I would bet there would be lots of comments and possible solutions and an answer may even end up being incorporated as a guideline or into a policy. Posting a mention of the discussion at the wikiproject cities might get some interested editors to come to the village pump to state their opinion. I've seen lots of good questions come up and to my surprise find out someone knows of a time when the question was already brought up and answered.] (]) 07:45, 1 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Okay, I made an attempt at the village pump to bring this up. Check it out at ] and please contribute if you think I missed something or have a different perspective. --] (]) 00:08, 18 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::Awesome post at the village pump today. Thanks for keeping the discussion going! --] (]) 00:27, 5 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Hi, Camelbinky. Love that name! You are probably not aware of it, but I had taken that photo off that page about a year ago and attempted to start a discussion. No-one responded. If you would like to see that photo on that page, please come talk about it. Thanks! ] (]) 00:58, 21 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Capital District compilation image == | |||
| == A barnstar for you! == | |||
| You ] would be appreciated. ''']]''' 04:02, 3 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Also, ] done. What do you think? ''']]''' 00:49, 5 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Perfect! Thank you!] (]) 01:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| == Housman quote = "Brilliant!!!!" == | |||
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| |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Copyeditor's Barnstar''' | |||
| Hi Camelbinky, | |||
| No reason for this post except to say I stumbled across one of your posts and found this; | |||
| {{quotation|"Three minutes thought would suffice to find this out; but thought is irksome and three minutes is a long time."<br /> -- ''A.E. Housman''}} | |||
| And all I wanted to say was; | |||
| '''''BRILLIANT!!!''''' | |||
| I'm pinching it! :) | |||
| Regards, | |||
| --] (]) 06:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Ah, yes. I see that list of quotations - top stuff. If I ever find a suitable one, I'll be sure to come back and add it in! Best, -- ] (]) 08:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == NRHP article names == | |||
| I think at ] we have decided that if the property's common name is something other than what it's listed as, the ''article'' title should be the common title. ''But'' the list article should use the NPS name for consistency with the official document, with a pipe link or redirect to the actual article. And we use the listing title in the infobox hed. | |||
| Recent example I just did, from our region: The ], in ]. That's the common name (see the website, or drive down Route 9 to it and see the sign out front). But it was listed as Halfway Diner, its original name and the one it used for about 40 years. So, the article has the current name, but the listing name in the infobox, and notes this in the lede. | |||
| My one exception to this is church articles. The NPS is forever, for accuracy's sake, listing churches with titles "St. Joe's Church Complex" or "Our Lady of the Blessed Sanctuary Church and Rectory". That's good for a list of recognized properties, where you include outbuildings in the listing, but you'd be surprised at the number of NRHP editors who have actually used these as article titles. I say, you only use that as the article title if that's what it says on the sign out front (i.e., never). | |||
| Now, to Washington Park: I think you can call that article, if you want to create it, ]. Make ] a redirect to that article (i.e., by renaming it), and I think you're OK (consider that ] is pretty much identical to the Chautauqua Institute National Historic Landmark District, so we don't have separate articles on them. | |||
| You might want to talk with ] about the NRHP naming conventions (such as they are). He's been the one most responsible for them. ] (]) 21:41, 11 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Urban studies and planning project invite == | |||
| Per your fine work on the Albany historic district articles, perhaps you'd be interested in listing yourself as a member at ]? You do seem to have some interests that would fit there. ] (]) 01:29, 15 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == No, it's not OR == | |||
| Not with the images involved. See ]. ] (]) 02:19, 17 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Yes, that would be my interpretation. ] (]) 04:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Rensselaerswyck expanded == | |||
| Have a . ''']]''' 17:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==Historic districts and settlements== | |||
| I'll reply to your here to so that we're not clogging up doncram's talk page. Even when historic districts cover the same area as a settlement or have the same boundaries as another area, I think each still merits its own article. While there is geographical overlap, there is much less time overlap. A settlement article should cover not just the history of the place but information on the economy, transport, education, geography, etc. Information about a historic district should be included in a summary style, but historic districts should have their own article to prevent the settlement article becoming too weighted towards the historic district. Articles on historic sites should have information about the history of the site, its relation to the surrounding area, possible interpretations of such sites to give context, and preservation amongst other things. While this could be summarised, for the settlement article stuff like providing context wouldn't be easy to add to the settlement article and it could be interpreted as digressing. | |||
| ''If'' there was no information that could not be included about an historic district in a settlement article then yes I would agree that it's fair to merge them. However, such information as I have listed above should always be available for each historic site. Unfortunately, most articles will remain stubs because there are so many of them, but at least having them flags to the reader that it needs expansion. The district should of course be mentioned in the history section of the settlement, but there should be scope for creation and expansion of an article on the district. I'm not sure of any articles that specifically fit these criteria, but I'm drawing on my experience of writing articles about settlements and ]s in England. There is usually a fair bit of information about such historic sites if you know where too look and if you add it too the settlement article it ends up clogging it up. | |||
| It of course needs to be judged on a case by case basis though. While I've made it clear that I believe every historic district merits its own article, others may of course disagree but I've explained my reasons. My problem on doncram's page was Orlady's confrontational comments. I believe doncram was justified in creating the article and that the provocative actions came from Orlady. ] (]) 18:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :I like your answers and they have swayed me to agree, for the most part, with your opinion. I do have this one issue though- you seem to be wanting the history section of a settlement article to be no more than a summary of the history of the settlement. I am biased in my opinion in that I focus on history sections of settlements, but my opinion is that history sections on settlements should be as detailed as possible, and if they get too long then that is why they get split off as their own article and THEN a summarized version is put in the settlement article with a hatnote on the section directing people to the history article of the settlement. I dont think this means there is any conflict with the idea of having separate historical district articles since for settlements that have such a large history they are most likely going to be of such size that there are multiple districts in the settlement and therefore the historic district articles will not be geographically the same as the full settlement and therefore can go into details that might not be relevant or notable enough for the full settlement article history.] (]) 20:05, 19 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == 48 Hudson Ave == | |||
| I'll assume that you mean the Hudson Ave in downtown. Ironically, there is Hudson Ave off Central far from downtown. But 48 by Google Maps. Is the address correct? ''']]''' 00:04, 22 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Yes, the one in downtown near the bus station (the one downtown, the one in Pine Hills, and the one in Hudson/Park & Center Sq. are all technically the same street, just disconnected due to topography, but the house numbering continues as if it was just one long street and the unbuilt area really did have lots). 48 Hudson Ave shows up in Mapquest I dont know why Google would not. I've never really used Google maps.] (]) 00:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| I just clicked on the link you have in your post for Google maps and it showed up the correct 48 Hudson Ave] (]) 00:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Arthur Cravan == | |||
| Nice reply - thanks! Finding the actual source for that Cravan had been lost at sea and most likely drowned took just five minutes at the university library here, but the business of keeping it in long term seemed to tie in with many other considerations (I only thought it over after I'd edited the article...) I guess I'm not the only one who has felt harassed sometimes by overfussy editors, or people with an agenda, who just don't know much about the stuff they edit, but sure know how to use WP rules ("no original research!" "this is not relevant")~sighs~.] (]) 23:53, 26 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Do you know anything about this? == | |||
| I'm doing a rewrite of ] (sandbox at ]) and I'm having a hard time figuring out his birth and death years. See the sandbox, where I include notes (ref 1 and 3) regarding the disagreement on these years. Do you know anything about these or have better sources? ''']]''' 18:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Not off the top of my head, but I will definitely spend time looking into it until I have an answer (or come to the conclusion there is no right answer!). Someone you may want to contact, if he is still editing, is ], he's an expert on New Netherland history articles and may have an answer for you quicker than we can find online.] (]) 01:08, 28 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Other than the sources you have already found, I have found which at least allows you to cite one source that outright says there is some uncertainty about Kil's death along with a no latter than and "as early as" date, it though seems quite certain of the year of his birth. I have, if Google Books is correct about the publication date, found a book written by Kil in 1643 (which could still have been his date of death though), no preview is available for the book and the title is in Latin. I will continue to search, though looking at the sources you give I would personally have more trust in Reynolds and Van Rensselaer as to a date of death. I havent looked into birth yet, working on death first as I assumed death would be an event more likely to be recorded and kept in the in safekeeping in the US than his date of birth in Amsterdam for which the records might not be around anymore as he wasnt notable at the time of his birth but he def. was notable when he died. I'm tracking down any primary sources from that are contemporary with his death right now.] (]) 01:46, 28 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::I'll chat with that user. I don't know how I feel about the source since they say the patroonship bounced straight to Jeremias, which isn't the case. See ]. ''']]''' 04:27, 28 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Quackenbush House == | |||
| You're going to want to look over ]. ''']]''' 22:50, 1 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :I like the photos, but I believe it was Daniel Case who once said there may be copyright problems with photos of historic markers and signs, so you may want to ask him about that, I probably misunderstood. However that sign does seem to be from the 1970s, so I wouldnt trust it as to which building is currently the oldest. Though I will be holding off on any info on 48 Hudson until any renovation of it turns up a definitive declaration, which I have found more evidence that the Convention Center Authority does indeed plan on renovating it and turning into some sort of museum. Use whichever photo of the building you like the most for the article. And since you were just there, can you verify that the restaurant name has changed from Nicole's Bistro to the name currently mentioned in the article? I thought it kind of a strange name if true, it translates as "The Chained Duck" and I'm pretty sure that is also the name of a satirical newspaper.] (]) 00:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Albany streets list article == | |||
| Yeah, I certainly think it could be something we could do. Albany's about as large as Hamilton, plus it's a state capital city to boot. It would be notable enough. ] (]) 12:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Assessment request == | |||
| Would you mind assessing ]? ''']]''' 21:12, 5 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :I can do that right now.] (]) 21:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==Pump reply on Jeopardy! stuff== | |||
| Thanks for the reply. I actually didn't realize those Champions lists were already on the pages, I probably will split those off. The real question, though, is whether the other two lists of total and single-day winnings are notable enough. I'd say yes (given proper limitations, like the 50k for total and 30k for single day that the official page provides), but I want outside opinions before creating. ] <sub>]</sub><sup><span style="position: relative; left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;">]</span></sup> 00:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Central Troy Historic District GA == | |||
| Well, Wade got there first. But you're just as welcome. | |||
| OK, so in order to take it to FA I am hoping you can get me some of those early '70s sources (don't have to be online) that you talked about in PR. Or perhaps I should get my own butt up to Troy again eventually. ] (]) 21:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Map of Rensselaerswyck == | |||
| Care to have a read of ] for me? Do you by any chance know what Smackx Island is? Oh and if you're ]. ''']]''' 23:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| *I would love to read your article, I loved the one you did on the charter of freedoms etc. Smackx Island...not of the top of my head, is there a place I could see a good image of the map itself? Chances are I could identify it from the map itself easier than from a name. The Hudson is full of islands that have since been filled in on one side and no longer exist on traditional maps such as road atlases, mapquest, etc; but NYSDOT and USGS maps often still refer to their locations (I've done articles on two such islands, ] and ]). I have gone ahead and voted support for Zoofari, I have enjoyed his work and benefitted from it, so this was the least I could do to repay all his hard work. I'm glad you brought it to my attention, pass on my well-wishes.] (]) 23:58, 24 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| **The image in the infobox is high-res and Smackx Island is clearly labeled. ''']]''' 00:01, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :I've read your article and have three questions and one request- | |||
| *should it be States General or States-General? | |||
| *rixdollars? is there a way to wikify that or footnote it with an explanation of just how much a rixdollar is? | |||
| *Albert Dieter(whatever) was the "commis" of Fort Orange...possible to wikify term or explain for laymen? | |||
| *and the request I have is- can you wikilink the first mention of de Laets Island to ] (more of an ego-trip for me since I'm the one that created the article). | |||
| ::I will go back and look at the high-res map and check out Smackx Island though from the description of it being north of Beerens and at the endpoint of the first purchase I already have my suspicions, should have an answer within an hour.] (]) 00:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::{{done}} ''']]''' 00:21, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::::WOW! This is a tough one. Ok... my best possible answer, for now, is that it is either Bear Island or Campbells Island. I have correctly identified the three islands between Beeren and Smacx as Shad, Schermerhorn, and Poplar; and have identified Renselaersburg as Castle Island, and the large island directly east Godyns Island is Papsacanee Island, which today they are fully joined together and are a peninsula not an island (and also they are a state park). This narrowed the section of river down to search. Bear Island does (or did) have a stream entering the Hudson at its north end and is along the western bank as the Map of Rensselaerswyck shows, though Campbell Island does (or did) match the size and shape better but is in real life much closer to the eastern bank. Should you be able to identify the kill entering the Hudson at the south end of Smackx Island as the Vloman Kill (previously spelled other ways, perhaps Vlouman back then), then I would say Campbell would be a better bet. Since that section of the map does not show the coastline and islands that real do/did exist back then on the eastern section as well as it does for the eastern section I would say we shouldnt take for granted that the island is truly as west as the map shows. For now Campbell Island is the best I can give. is the best link for checking some of the info out I have provided.] (]) 00:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I'm not really worried about identifying these things more than already, unless you're already sure. I don't want to make assumptions about the map considering it was hand drawn and could be vastly wrong. I'd kind of like to bring this to GAN, but worry that the "based solely on one source" part will kill me. Plus it's basically copy+pasted from the source, which is legal (PD), but not really impressive. ''']]''' 01:12, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ←Do you have a source that specifically says that de Laet's Island was later renamed Van Rensselaer's Island, so I can source ]? ''']]''' 01:22, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :You may also want to take a cool at ] and comment on how things are going. Take into account ] as well when referencing van Rensselaers; I've been creating some articles too. ''']]''' 01:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Reference number 5 in the Van Rensselaer Island article is the source for Van Rensselaer Island originally being de Laet's Island, also another reference used in that article states it more clearly but is possibly not as reliable a source as it is the website promoting the commercial/residential development named "de Laet's Landing" on the island. Also I believe some of the other sources used in that article mention it as well, if not all of them.] (]) 01:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::I looked at number 5, but it only says that Kiliaen named it for de Laet. It doesn't say that the name changed from de Laet to van Rensselaer. ''']]''' 01:56, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Page 6 of reference number 1 lists all the former names of the island, including de Laet's and Van Rensselaer (along with a few others).] (]) 02:08, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Give this a read-through, will you? == | |||
| ] has gone live. Go through it when you get some time? Took an initial look at the history of town creation. I like the idea, but the setup is quite awkward. I don't mean to sound mean, but the way it's done just doesn't present well; the content, on the other hand, is great. Maybe you could use ]. It can be difficult to use, but it looks great. ''']]'''<sub>''formerly wadester16''</sub> 22:37, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Oh, I didnt take it as sounding mean, we are here for the same reason to make the articles better, I always appreciate your input, you've made just about every article I've ever worked on better with your input, I can always trust you to be honest. I know the format is awkward, the problem is that when put in a family tree format of any kind there is a problem with the fact that town creation is hard to draw because it is so "inbred", for the lack of a better word; towns creating new towns with their own "parents" or "grandparents". I had checked out template:Familytree when deciding on what format to use, the only question/possible problem with using that would be in those cases that three towns contributed to a new town, I am not sure if that template would be able to diagram that as the template was designed for a mom-pop-children type of diagram and probably the creators did not envision three parents. I will practice with it and see what I can do maybe there is a way to represent three parents. I'm glad you like the content, the current format does disappoint me and actually saddens me so I know what you mean when you say it doesnt present well. I've been watching your article for some time now and will take a detailed look now, as I could use a nice distraction from what I was working on, the (], was thinking I could write out the entire charter in the article then I realized that what I had down so far was one page out of over 20! So I'll have to figure something else out!) :-(] (]) 22:49, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Don't put the full text on Misplaced Pages, put it on Wikisource. And when/if you create the article in Wikisource, make sure to name it so it can't be confused with the Dongan Charter of NYC. ''']]'''<sub>''formerly wadester16''</sub> 22:54, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::I dont think I've ever used Wikisource, I'll have to give that a try, thank you!] (]) 22:56, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I hadn't either until I started working on Kiliaen. You'll note all the Wikisource references I used; I created them all. ''']]'''<sub>''formerly wadester16''</sub> 23:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::::One quick problem I might have, and it might be a problem carried over from the source you got it from is from this paragraph- | |||
| *Before the ] began, people realized that the West Indies trade might bring great prosperity to the country and that more power might be developed against ]. Rather than travel to the area singly within an armed ship or in the company of a few other vessels, traders could do business in the manner of the large and prosperous East India Company. A company for carrying on commerce in the West Indies, Africa, and ] could be organized, which might, like the sister company, act as the war-waging power in those parts and be supported by the treasury, ships, and troops of the ]. | |||
| ::The problem being that when the Eighty Years' War began Australia hadnt yet been discovered by the Dutch (or anyone else except the Aborigines, and some Indonesian fishermen) I dont know if that is a big enough wording issue to really worry about, but you may want to look into it and see what you think?] (]) 23:17, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :I just finished, I made a change adding a non-breaking space to keep the last word of a sentence with the citation and I corrected what I think was a spelling error (excercised to exercised). I have three questions though- | |||
| *Is it possible to show how much the various money amounts given in florins and guilders are in dollars? If not, that's ok, I know there may not be a reliable conversion rate out there for it. | |||
| *Possible to show conversion of the amount of land given in bunders is in acres or hectares? | |||
| *His first wife Hillegonda, she is the neice of his uncle...was she and Kilean therefore cousins by blood (making them first cousins and therefore incest) or was this where she was the wife's neice and he was the husband's nephew type of deal? (or otherway around or some other combination of marriage and nothing to do with blood-relation).] (]) 23:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Will check in on those questions. I won't be able to do much with the currencies (btw guilder and florin are apparently identical, based on my readings). There's a story about the bunder; I'll try to include that. I'll check up on the incest issue. ''']]''' 19:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Featured x candidates (Regarding withdrawal) == | |||
| It appears ] provides a cogent compromise between your views and the others, no? The editor in question can "leave" and continue developing content elsewhere. The only thing that can't be undone is the content already submitted, which is essentially already in the wild, even if somehow it was removed from wikipedia. I'm not reading anything asserting to be like a encyclopedia ], where wikipedia has some right to the future work, or would have any basis to prevent the article from being developed in an alternative forum. Cheers! ] (]) 06:35, 6 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Albany Union Station move == | |||
| Done. ] (]) 20:04, 15 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Obama visit == | |||
| could be a great addition to ], assuming he says something positive about our local economy and tech valley. Read recently that Global Foundries is the largest project currently on track in the United States. Very notable to include in Economy that we were relatively successful during a hard time and have one of the best community colleges in the country. I'd wait to the speech is done though. ''']]''' 23:08, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :I saw the headline but didnt read that article this morning, but now that I've read it I'm really glad you made me read it. Definitely a plus to add once more information comes in and President Obama visits. I can believe that its the largest project in the US, thousands of workers will be building it and its the only chip fab plant being built in the US right now (and none are even planned, so its not like we just got lucky and started first). Fabs are like the holy grail of regional economic planning, everyone wants one. I've been thinking of starting a ] article as well, since the Capital District article is already damn near, if not already over the suggested article size. A Tech Valley article could be more in-depth on these types of things. Unfortunately it includes Plattsburgh in the north and the IBM plants/HQ down in East Fishkill, areas I am not that familar with, anything north of Ticonderoga or south of Hudson I get uncomfortable with writting about because I have rarely, if ever, visited anything beyond them, but I can always research online and learn without physically ever going someplace (though it really bugs me to do that!).] (]) 03:06, 18 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Albany/Schenectady border == | |||
| Do you have a source for the fact that Albany and Schenectady counties' border is set from the old border of Rensselaerswyck? I can't remember if you did or not, but it would be helpful. ''']]''' 00:00, 21 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Yea, I did but I cant remember if I put it on your talk page or mine, but I believe it was posted on your talk page. If you cant find it do a search on Google Books for the New York state laws for 1809 and in the book that has that year's laws do a search for "Schenectady County", and there will be the actual law setting forth the creation of Schenectady county and the borders will be given, they arent very exact but they do mention that the border goes along the old Rensselaerwyck border, and as far as I know Schenectady and Albany counties have not had any land swaps or annexations from each other since they separated. The creation of Niskayuna as a town from ] is in the same book (same year 1809), possibly even in the same law as the creation of Schenectady County, it also mentions the Rensselaerwyck border if I remember correctly. The 1860 Gazetteer of the State of New York by JH French (also on Google Books) also mentions it I believe. The ] has the source you should need for the 1809 law, but I cant remember which one is the one you need for 1809.] (]) 02:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Re: Road terminology == | |||
| I don't want to say yes, because I use those words, but don't conform to that document. The better person to ask is ]. I assume you are referring to finishing the Round Lake Bypass (NY 915J).<FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE="-1" COLOR="red">Mitch</FONT><b>32</b><sup>(] ])</sup> 09:58, 8 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, I was in really bad mood, but going by previous decisions. Anyway, be my guest.<FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE="-1" COLOR="red">Mitch</FONT><b>32</b><sup>(] ])</sup> 01:21, 9 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == DP76764 == | |||
| Thank You for your comments on the ] page. It has been hard to add info to the page as DP76764 assertion that the show is not a source has repeatably come up before. ] (]) 05:26, 9 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==removal of content== | |||
| hello, i see that you removed content from the ], per . please refrain from doing so without stating a reason in your summary, especially on ANI. it may appear to be vandalism. I may also be wrong advising you now, if it happens to be, please feel free to point out. ] 23:13, 10 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Dude, I dont know what you are talking about, I posted to the thread above and had nothing to do with the next thread. There was an edit conflict and that may have messed things up when I copy/pasted from the "your version" to the "stored version" I have always had a problem with the edit conflict page that pops up. If something got misplaced or erased it was an accident. Posting on my talk page is useless, I'm retiring and think dumb things like your post on my talk page dont help. Yes you were wrongly advising me right now. Sorry I'm being an ass, but I'm trying to figure out how to get rid of my account so there's nothing remaining at all.] (]) 01:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thank you for your reply. I ve understood everything you have said. '''Please, don't retire'''. you are a very good editor. You will always come across criticisms. just understand that you will never meet most of these people who negatively criticize you. after all, they don't decide what you eat, where you go in life. so, just ignore every negative comment they make. sometime back, i was forced to retire by a wikistalker. now i ve learned to ignore negative criticisms. '''hope you stay my friend'''. ] 10:47, 11 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == thanks == | |||
| For standing up, taking my question as a question, and insisting that others view this reasonably. Sometimes I feel pretty lonely here, tonight thanks to you and some others I don't and i appreciate that, ] | ] 21:14, 18 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :I should have mentioned this too. Same author. People won't connect the dots ... ] | ] 21:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == ANI Thread == | |||
| I've posted a reply to your comment over at ANI. I don't want you to think that I am in any way supporting the author of that article (I find it as abhorrent as you do), just that I don't want good editors (and I think you are one...at least I know your name and its not associated with anything bad in my mind!) to be blocked for a violation of ] that they didn't intend. Happy Editing! ] (]) 21:18, 18 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| {{Talkback|Igoldste}} | |||
| == WT:IAR#A shining example of IAR in an early-closure of an AFD == | |||
| I my recent addition to ], but it should go somewhere. Can you think of a more appropriate place? ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 03:25, 19 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :If you truly think that the admin did something wrong and should lose his admin title bring it to AN/I, I guess; or whatever the appropriate place for action would be. If you dont think you'd win, and you just want to vent- well, unfortunately there really isnt a place other than your own user page.] (]) 03:35, 19 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::I think you misunderstand. This administrator exercised boldness and wisdom by knowing when to ignore the rules. Someone else beat me to the punch and gave him a barnstar for it. I was so impressed that I wrote it up as an example of when to use IAR and put that write-up as a comment on the IAR talk page. At your request, I removed my statement, pending discussion. I'm still puzzled why you said "sour grapes." | |||
| ::Again, if you believe there is a more appropriate place to mention a shining example of a successful use of IAR rather than WT:IAR, I'm open to suggestions. | |||
| ::In retrospect, I should've made it clear that I was one of the ones endorsing the barnstar. ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 16:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Waterford pics == | |||
| Sorry about not getting those done; my wikibreak was very much unanticipated and took most of my time the last two weeks. I'll do my best over time, but no guarantees that they show up any time very soon. ''']]''' 00:20, 26 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Take your time. Much more important things in life than this, so try and have some fun whenever you end up taking the photos, enjoy the scenery, see some sights, have fun.] (]) 00:33, 26 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==Block== | |||
| This block was done in error; I am very sorry. ] (]) 02:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :I am so embarassed; I over-reacted and thought you had vandalized but it was done by an IP. You can scream at me now. ] (]) 02:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::I have no idea what you are talking about, but I'm sure it was an honest mistake and apparently went by so fast I never noticed! Thanks for the apology and I look forward to having a laugh about when you tell me whatever it is that happened! I know your work Bearian and respect you, whatever it was it was an honest mistake, no hard feelings.] (]) 06:36, 3 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thank you for understanding. I gave a warning to the IP who actually vandalized ], and it looked (at first glance) as though ''you'' had done it. LOL. ] (]) 14:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == hello again! == | |||
| Hi there, I happened to run into your notes on the Verifiability talk page - I like the way you put it and you can see these issues still exercise me. Made a post there, I had to get it off my chest; in connection with ], a very well-known Swedish journalist and writer (more writer than journalist these days) - on his bio page I ran into this insanely obnoxious rookie editor. | |||
| That article is more busy than normal right now; about ten days ago a tabloid here got hold of papers revealing that Guillou had been a KGB footman in his early years as a reporter around 1970. A very flammable revelation even if it doesn't seem that he actually delivered any classified secrets. So, there's been some people just pouring in tabloid junk over the article and some others, me included, trying to hold back. Then this guy who is basically completely new - he did a few edits eighteen months ago, then quit, unless he's been working under another account - makes some major cuts in the text to make it clearer and more reliable, and leaves no explanation. Some of what he cutr had to go, some of it - and some of my stuff - I thought he could have left in. Okay, I made a post on the article talk page and said it was well done to cut some of the crap but told him that he shouldn't go on to prune off everything he didn't spot a source for. Some of what Guillou has been writing and reporting about is controversial and difficult to rference now in a reliable way, and more so if you want the article to be intelligible to people who don't know a lot about Sweden. If one doesn't look out, the KGB thing might end up looking like the most important fact of his whole career in that article. So, the guy turns straight at me and starts imposing himself as Mr.I-Am-the-WP-Law, telling me as haughty as he can that everything must be sourced because it says so in the WP rules, "you obviously misunderstand what verifiability is about" etc etc. To make it even better, he feigns not to be able to understand when I address him in Swedish, though i knew from the start that we spoke the same tongue and there was no one else there to join in the discussion (it wnet on both at the Guillou talk page and his own). | |||
| It's bad enough to be spoken to top-down by a newbie who sets himself up as a judge, but when he further pretends not to know your language ("I am soooo cosmopolitan I will only address you in English") it really hits the big time. We did keep arguing and poking at each other in English- I finished by reverting back to Swedish and then calling him "mörön" to finish the proceedings ("ö" is a Swedish letter of course, wonder if he got that side of the joke....lol) He seems a complete jerk! Don't answer this at my page, I don't want him to come here and he could be a stalker type. /] (]) 05:23, 3 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Wow, he would annoy me too if I was in your situation. I wish I knew of a good course of action for you to do, but I too have problems with people who think of Misplaced Pages as laws that they themselves should and can impose on others. The best you can do, especially on articles that not many other editors will see and be able to help out, is to bring any issues you have with him to places like the ] or the ] and hopefully if a consensus goes your way that editor will respect it and not ignore you and the noticeboard's decision. I have no knowledge of Swedish, nor any knowledge about the journalist in question, so unfortunately I have little I could contribute to your dispute as I would have alot to catch up on regarding the dispute. I am proud to say my family can trace themselves back to the ] dynasty of Sweden by way of ], and the dukes of Normandy. So if he argues with you too much just tell him a descendant of the gods ] and ] is on your side :-)] (]) 06:32, 3 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::I think there will be others weighing in on that entry too, so he will be busy if he's really going to guard it. Guillou is as famous in Sweden as Norman Mailer was in the US and this KGB story has really got fists flying. And controversy and scandal always sems to raise the activity on a Sweden-related article here. | |||
| ::Some of my countrymen here seem to think of WP as the place to show the world what Sweden ''really'' is about - the truths they feel they don't see stated in block type in papers at home - but at the same timne they fail to grasp that in order to show to foreigners why something like the ] is relevant and controversial far beyond what IB actually did, you need to provide a political and cultural context on some points. Swedes, more than Americans, tend to think that the facts - your choice of facts - speak for themselves, which makes it hard sometimes to discuss how to make an article understandable and cohesive to non-Swedes, or to discuss bias: "It should say Guillou is a spy because he ''is'' a spy - if you join the KGB then you're a spy like Philby! And he was even sentenced to prison as a spy back in '73!" (that verdict is regarded by very many people, not just on the left, as an abuse of justice, you see...) | |||
| ::He hasn't actually cut any more of the unsourced stuff yet. I'll try to get some good sources of course. I would like to know what he really thinks a BLP should look like - suggested to him in the last reply in Swedish on his talk page - the one that opens a new section called (after Swift!) "A modest proposal" - that he should sketch a few articles on journalists or political leaders at his sandbox to show what kind of article he would like to see, how much he feels it's encyclopaedic to include and how to phrase and source etc, and then we'd have something to discuss. So far, the Guillou rewrite is his single real contribution here! But maybe he's bolder when it comes to bragging about laws than actually enforcing them. :) | |||
| ::Thanks for the support of Odin and the Norman Dukes. Guillou, too, would have appreciated it! /] (]) 13:50, 3 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Misplaced Pages discourse styles == | |||
| Whatever you say, shit-for-brains. --] (]) 04:44, 5 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Ill take that in good-faith :0}] (]) 04:49, 5 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hey, you said you wanted to see it more often in discussions, just granting your wish. :-) --] (]) 04:51, 5 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Thank you == | |||
| I was going to message you to thank you for taking a stand with Eusebeus. Thanks for coming to me and expressing your thoughts regarding this chain of events. Yes, I feel wronged. All the way from the admins at the AN/I board today (about which Bwilkins later stated to SarekofVulcan on Sarek's talk page that they should all be ashamed of themselves, BTW) to the treatment I received over this civility issue. I just don't get why admins think they can behave this way and get away with it (maybe because they've been allowed to get away with it?). Anyway...yes, I would like some mediation/arbitration, whatever - in good faith I went and asked for someone to look into the civility issue (at the advice of Bwilkins, an admin) because I would like for the issue(s) ] has with me to stop. I don't see her stopping, and someone obviously has to make it stop - one way or another. Thanks for being the adult here - I was starting to think that no one around here is anymore. ;-) ] (]) 04:13, 7 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :No problem, I am here to fight the bullies and protect those that dont get listened, you are always welcomed at my talk page. ] is a project I've been working on, so far only two supporters (including myself) but if interested in it, feel free to sign up and write any ideas down on the talk page or be bold and edit the "statement of values" if you want. Admins arent all evil, but some let it get to their head, which is why I think a better title is "school janitor", it reflects what they do more properly and with a title like that only the truly dedicated would want the "job".] (]) 04:31, 7 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for checking in. So far, so good. Bwilkins has been kind enough to step in (and has done a very good job at it) and it appears that JoyDiamond is paying attention. Time will tell. While the actual mediation that was requested has not occured, I would like to keep that a possibility should things heat up between JoyDiamond and myself. I want to note, however, that the Charles Karel Bouley article (the one that JD is seemingly so obsessed by) has been locked again - and this time until February 2010. I think it's a good move by Black Kite and will hopefully keep JD from going bonkers again. Like I told Bwilkins the other day, I just want to edit Misplaced Pages in peace. In fact, I just joined the Misplaced Pages group, "]". I'm really tired of all the arrogance and heavy-handedness and bullies amongst the administrators. My hope is that with a group like the HEC around, maybe I will have a group of folks with the absolute best of intentions for the encyclopedia in mind first to go to when sticky situations arrive. Thanks again for your assistance and having my back. It is appreciated. ] (]) 04:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::Okay...as of today, things have not changed at all. ] is no longer listening and is now lodging ridiculous complaints against me (see ] and section #26 "Tran, wiki- hounding and edit warring"). Also...if you would, take a look at the talk page for the article she is complaining about - ] - and see what she has just inappropriately placed there. If I say anything about what she's put there (or attempt to remove it), she'll no doubt scream stalking and harrassment to AN/I again - if *you* want to say anything to her, feel free. Thanks for your help and support. ] (]) 03:07, 15 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Hounding and stalking allegations. == | |||
| Your claims are, predictably, ridiculous. I have replied at ANI. --] (]) 23:42, 11 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Dear Camelbinky, I'm aware that this is off topic, but it's on the same ] for Misplaced Pages's talk-page guidelines. Your expressions drove me to think and think and think. Thanks. I'm not all that sorry for all of this, and I hope you aren't either. Please forgive my wordiness. Here it is. It's about neutrality and objectivity. I'm going to use the term ''colorization'' instead of saying "italics and bold" over and over. | |||
| :* Misplaced Pages's aims at objectivity and neutrality in article space and on talk pages as well. It's a cultural thing that makes sense for an encyclopedia. Why talk pages? Because similar to the way a specific mentality is developed, or a particular talent is refined and strengthened for the greater good, by practicing neutrality in talk-space, where there is wider latitude and leniency than in main-space, there is fostered the general good of article page quality. This is very general, and obviously does not apply to you, since your articles are just as neutral and objective as can be. But for the more impressionable and sensitive youngsters, it does apply. That's why they call it a "culture". It grows the growing things. There is absolutely nothing wrong with your colorful personality. It just isn't policy, and not even the norm on talk pages. The encyclopedia is more about objects in space-time than the personal spirited experiences of being swept through time. | |||
| :*If I want to I can show personality. There are no rules because no policy is ever neutral. The biggest blessing Misplaced Pages offers me is freedom to follow the rules in order to easily reform my behavioral aggression and unsightly passions. I simply edit them out before saving the page. As a result I can watch myself on the way to the wise who do the same act but in real-time, although mine is yet in a motion entirely too slow to count for anything more than the practice of personal morphology (at best). | |||
| :*The aesthetic effect of blocks of words, with no colorization or ] ("Do not use lists..."), and which, when neutrally stated, maximizes the space, freedom and acceptability because the reader sees objects, like a rock, and is then free to be or do what they will with it: ignore, study, throw at enemy, etc. This honors the reality we live in because it emulates it. For example, given an unambiguous phrase, readers who are not told which words to stress, stress the ones they want. If the words are pre-stressed for them, it is difficult to stress other words they might have otherwise needed for themselves. No matter how strong our spirit, we cannot force ideas, but it is in the words themselves that the power to charm against all odds lies. | |||
| :*Policy, political speeches, and police may be emotionally spirited, and definitely not neutral, but talk pages about policy need to be neutral. One of the worst problems for Misplaced Pages, who wants everyone to contribute, is the stress caused by not-so-subtle remarks on talk pages. The epitome of the disease is the stressful cabal syndrome which defends policy pages in a passionate way, doing things like sockpuppetry, threats, etc, anything to derail the attention to the actual desire to improve the policy, and it's a group effort. I understand you are just expressing yourself, and I have thanked you already for that. But please notice the stress you have caused. Just notice. | |||
| :*An object is an an objective in that it outlasts any mood, and, like a rock, makes for foundation, or orientation. The difficulty in being objective is choosing content and structure, in a way that is acceptable in the biggest way (more minds for longer times). | |||
| :*The difficulty in being neutral is presenting content and structure in a way that makes space for the reader to interpret it the way they will. It enables bias because bias will always be. The purpose of colorization is to disambiguate, otherwise it is not neutral because colorization biases words. Knowledge doesn't much need colorization except as disambiguation, or as a visual aid (such as bold for scanning and italics for word or idea connection). | |||
| :*Policy is one-sided (it will be done this way); ] are one-sided and "to be used sparingly" (telling readers how to stress the words in their inner ears). Similarly all caps are not to be used for ]. Neither policy nor colorization are neutral, which is multi-sided. To make it a guideline to liberalize colorization is to make it a recommendation to make rules, when in fact making rules provisions avenues of non-neutrality. Because neutrality is central, we say "]", because the ruling policy is non-neutral. | |||
| :* Finally, if you will accept the admonition of ] where it says "Other's will edit your writing. Don't take it personally!", then won't you make space for the expressions of the next generation, whom you have been stigmatizing and labeling in so many ways? | |||
| :Thanks for reading. I think neutrality and objectivity have far reaching application, way beyond here. | |||
| :— ]] 22:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::I thank you for your thoughtful insights, I'm glad I got you to thinking. I do write harshly and overstate my beliefs; but for a reason- by taking the extreme side of my ideas it then allows a compromise to be made towards a middle ground that is actually closer to what I '''actually''' want. I hope you dont mind that I made this a new thread on my talk page in order to make it distinct from others more rude comments above. | |||
| *I meant no disrespect towards the next generation, they are of course going to rescue us all from the foibles of the past generations (unfortunately they '''have to''' or else if they dont save us there wont be another generation after them). I dont fully agree (or understand) all of your points, but trust me I will be reading them many times and many time over until I do understand them. | |||
| *The compromise solution put in to the talk page guidelines regarding bolding and italics that Rd232 put in is pretty much exactly what I had hoped would be the change I wanted (had I originally proposed the same exact thing, it would have been compromised down to even less, so as in any "negotiation" you must start "higher"). | |||
| *My main objective was to make remove the harshness of tone in the guideline, whenever I see a guideline (or policy) that unnecessarily portrays something as a clear-cut "you must not do..." such as the wording in the bold and italic section had, I feel compelled to see if it can be changed. No guideline (and most policies) should '''never''' be written in a way that ''anyone'' can interpret it as a clearcut all or nothing "rule". | |||
| *I hope this helps you understand where I am coming from. I would enjoy a discussion with you to further learn your ideas and discuss each of our opinions on the future of Misplaced Pages and its policies if you would like to we can set up a page as a forum were we can discuss similar issues as those you brought up here. I am grateful that you shared with me your thoughts and hope you continue to voice your very good opinions at many places in Misplaced Pages, the Community is much better by having your voice.] (]) 06:12, 13 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::If you want to make this a new thread, I'll find it. | |||
| ::Thank you very much for your gracious response. Made my day. | |||
| ::I think you are ahead of me on your more clear realization of the tone of some policies and guidelines. Your statements here have entirely made it clear to me now, and I will join your efforts as I mosey along. But lucidity will be paramount for me because my and your new political correctness is just "clothing for a day". What I will be looking for is the tone that goes beyond pure description, and perhaps a reference to '']''. Keeping in mind that '']'' invalidates itself and that ], we shall set ourselves with the peace and humor of mind necessary to creatively impress the lasting contributions we truly deep-down desire. | |||
| ::As far as the future of Misplaced Pages, and discussions concerning ] (brutal), I'm open to a new topical ], but I don't know what that is. Assuming we'll just use ] traditional methods, (] real or defacto guidelines and policy), I threw my above writing into ] (in need of restructuring–hint hint) and setup a ] (a forum?). I only know to suggest we strategize ways to encourage consensus to link that essay in, and that to succeed wildly we need to know the culture (e.g. ], ], and ]) we seek to influence. | |||
| ::I think MediaWiki is an ideal platform for many useful things in life. My writing efforts above, and my future writing goals are part of my larger response to the general turn-off that the intimidation such as ], and ] ''are'', and as are their counterparts in the real world. Having said that, and without too much attachment to it, and by having a desire to build this (for me new) territory with an open mind, it's essentially a motive compelled by a desire to (publicly) document what my learning experience is concerning the finest, exemplary, cure to bless the planet, ever: Misplaced Pages. To fulfill my desire to learn how objectivity and neutrality apply to Misplaced Pages, (where I got the interest in the first place), I write about it. I wrote there, above, a kind of opinion music, less a logic, more a spirit than than something that can easily be picked up and applied. That is my usual style, and it is difficult to read. But with your questions and editing, the writing would improve. I'm happy to relate about anything I write. | |||
| ::— ]] 04:06, 15 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Our discussion at ] seems like a reasonable choice for this Monday's ] Policy Review section. If you'd like to add to your comments, or add or subtract to the summary of your or anyone else's comments at ], please feel free. (Watching) - Dank (]) 21:39, 14 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Wow, I have never been a part of a discussion that was put at the Signpost, that's pretty cool. Thanks for the heads up; I'm glad you started that thread at wt:policy its very interesting from both a practical and a theoretical standpoint. Your thoughts definitely made me think, and thinking is the most important thing to do in life (and something more Wikipedians should do for themselves).] (]) 01:17, 15 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Great, I hope you'll keep participating. - Dank (]) 01:56, 15 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Here for support == | |||
| I happened across your dispute completely by chance on the admin board, and I've never gotten involved in one of these disputes before before; however, I saw what ] was doing and I felt obligated to try to do something. The last thing I want to see is someone leave because of one jerkoff. One time, when I was operating under the name of an IP, a friend of mine had a similar problem with another user, and the way we proved it was this; I took a page (if memory serves me correctly, it was a band called Lucifugum whose page has since been erased, much to my chagrin) and reconstructed it, but I saved the revised page to my user page and had my friend post those revisions to the page. When my friend posted it, the user who was ] him came out of the woodwork, and gave us the evidence we needed. | |||
| Anyways, I really wanted to let you know, as an insignificant Misplaced Pages user who usually sticks to heavy metal and ] stuff (and things related to those) that people do appreciate your work. Don't let people get to you, and if you have any issues with this ] cretin again, I've got your back. It probably won't do a whole lot, but at least it's something. Again, thanks for all of the work you've put in!! ] (]) 06:02, 15 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you very much for your support, it does mean alot. I do not consider your contributions to be insignificant, I dont think there is such a thing (except for vandalism) I bet alot of people have found your information to be very useful and helpful in learning about things that they find interesting. Just because some others on Misplaced Pages think certain types of articles are more important that doesnt mean its true.] (]) 20:16, 15 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| If it'a anything to you, he's going after me now for calling him a cretin, claiming I personally attacked him. I'm not sure what he hopes to accomplish now, but I have a firm enough constitution that he doesn't frighten me in the least. Should I have called him a cretin? Maybe not, but he also should have raised an objection before a month went by. Frankly, if I were him, I'd be considering why I was being called a cretin, and maybe doing something about it. ] (]) 08:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :This is just my thought and I have no proof, but I'm ''thinking'' maybe he took a month off from "watching" me to let things die down and now he is catching up on reading my talk page and seeing what I am doing so that is why it has been a month, he just now read your post. Which, if true, makes it scary that he takes time to do that kind of stuff, what is it about my talk page that makes it like a soap opera to him? What could be so fascinating that he needs to read ANYTHING on my talk page? Can you say ''obsessed'', ''stalker'', and ''weirdo''? But, sshhhh, we shouldnt type so much, he's watching us right now... I owe you a wikibeer if he responds to this and is all "upset". Maybe he shouldnt be reading my talk page then. :-)] (]) 23:45, 14 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Adding to template == | |||
| Hey, do you know if there is a Jewish and Muslim equivalent to Christian diocese in Albany? I just this Religion and Culture section to {{tl|Capital District}} and would like to be as inclusive as possible. ''']]''' 17:00, 29 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :I really like your thoughts about inclusiveness. I don't know about Muslims, but Jews don't give their religious leaders well-delineated districts in the way some Christian branches make parishes, dioceses etc. If we really want to include these groups in the template, it might be helpful to create articles about the topic such as "]" and "]." BTW, I might be wrong, but I wouldn't think the Capital District's Muslim community is as notable as its Jewish community. The Jewish community is probably larger and almost certainly older, and important events in modern Jewish history have happened in the area. Not to say the area's Muslims aren't important, though, and even for a small community (or perhaps especially for a small community) it's nice to see Misplaced Pages preserving culture by featuring important things other information sources would overlook. | |||
| :I also think that especially with the additional links, the "religion and culture" section of the template may be giving ] to religion. Perhaps some articles about specific cultural attractions could be added to the template to balance its coverage? --]] 08:42, 1 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::I would suggest if specific cultural attractions were to be put in, we should be very careful that it doesnt get out of control in the future with new editors adding smaller locations. Perhaps start with ], ], ], and ]. I dont think the Islam in the CD article would at this time be notable enough to even exist. As for the Judaism in the CD article I recommend just adding everything and anything notable to the ] section until it is noticeably long enough to split as a stand alone article. I know the three temples in Troy, but am less knowledgeable about Albany, Schenectady, and Saratoga's temples (and I assume there must be at least a reform temple in other places like Glens Falls, Hudson, and Amsterdam).] (]) 00:09, 2 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Tone == | |||
| I think there are much better ways you could have expressed your disapproval rather than resorting to biting language. There's nothing wrong with reverting people or disagreeing them (usually, at least), but there's no need to be rude about it. Happy editing. --] (]) 00:29, 1 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :That user, SlimVirgin, whom I reverted has a reputation for making changes without first looking at the talk page and seeing why something was changed and he was told on the talkpage by a different user in the past about changing against consensus and was asked to come to the talkpage from then on. The common practice on policy pages is not to change something that is likely to be controversial unless you go to the talk page first. This was controversial and had been changed due to consensus.] (]) 02:06, 1 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Random but relevant question == | |||
| I have two questions for you and they both stem from a recent McDonald's ad (of all things). So McDonald's is playing ads around here for a special brew of coffee only served in the capital district. They have two radio ads and one tv ad. The plots of the ads revolve around one person having two coffees (assumedly one is for the friend they are about to talk to) and the friend thanks them for the coffee. The first person, before they will give the coffee away, asks three questions specific to the capital district. For the most part, the questions are different between commercials. Today I heard one that asks: Q: "Greenwich village?" A: "Lark Street". Have you ever heard of Lark St being referred to as Albany's Greenwich Village? After Googling it, I've not noticed anything notable. The second question is Q: "Original name of Albany?" to which the other answers (phonetically spelled, because I've never heard of it) "High-yuh-dare-uh-stare-is" and the questioner adds "I would have also accepted Beverwyck (pronouncing it Bev-er-vike, which is correct Dutch, impressively enough). Have you ever heard of this Hiyaderasteris? It would be sad if a lousy McDonald's commercial is outdoing us in research. :( ''']]''' 01:02, 3 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :The Times Union did a piece on this McDonald's ad . Which is weird when you said that question was in there, because the TU article puts that question in the "Capital Regionisms that didnt make it" list; so when I originally read the article I wasnt too worried that the TU got history wrong. But the Kayaderossas (I believe is the spelling) makes the McD's people are wrong. That name was for a land patent roughly where the town of Malta is, parts of Saratoga Springs, and most likely neighboring towns. It is currently the name of the creek that is southern boundary of Saratoga Springs (bordering Malta) and empties into the Hudson in Stillwater (or Halfmoon?). To my knowledge I have never heard Kayaderossas as a name for Albany. Here is what the Colonial Social History Project of the NYSM has on their website- ] (]) 03:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Holly crap! Nice find! I know of the creek; it's labeled on the northway between exits 13 and 14 if I'm not mistaken. Stewart's has Kaydeross Cream ice cream (vanilla with orange sherbet) but the creek is called the Kayderosserass (KAY-der-oss-er-ass). I've been told that even spelled that way, it's still pronounced KAY-der-oss, even though it has the extra 2 syllables. I never knew that pronunciation they mention though. Btw, I ''really'' wish they used the Ichabod Crane comment, because it's soooooo right and I would have laughed out loud. ''']]''' 04:24, 3 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that the Ichabod Crane one was one of the funniest! Can you imagine how long their school year goes because they use so many snow days?] (]) 22:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I emailed that link to the superintendent at IC; I met him a few weeks ago. Probably didn't appreciate it (in fact, now that I think about it, I wouldn't doubt that the ad company called first to make sure it was okay, only to be told no). Wouldn't want to piss off potential customers... ''']]''' 20:42, 11 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Signpost? == | |||
| Monday's Policy Report is going to be on ], but we don't have enough quotable material from the talk page yet, so I'm beg ... er, soliciting opinions from people who have spoken up on that talk page recently. If you have something quotable, or if you don't, feel free to weigh in at ]. - Dank (]) 23:13, 5 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Your recent comment at the village pump... == | |||
| ... is absolutely spot on. Please do not feel constrained from posting opinions as sensible responses to stupid arguments are always welcome. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 07:30, 11 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Question == | |||
| Do you have a reliable source containing 1) the year Lansingburgh was chartered, 2) what type of municipal body it was chartered as, and 3) what year it was annexed as part of Troy? Thanks! ''']]''' 07:30, 13 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :responded at Upstater's talk page] (]) 23:49, 14 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == I have forgotten ... (random watchlist rhetorical praise) == | |||
| I have forgotten ... if we have ever been at odds ... whether you are good or evil :-) ... well, I don't know anything about you at all that I can remember ... . Love the peroration especially: | |||
| {{cquote| ... More should understand we really are inclusive, though more editors and admins should start allowing more freedom of speech as is standard in the majority of the English-speaking world (this being the English version of Misplaced Pages) <br>]}} | |||
| Hear hear. Amen. Happy holidays to you, Camelbinky — who, for now, I'll remember for the above.<br> -- ] (]) 22:39, 18 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ===Extra points=== | |||
| * ] (]) 03:29, 20 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == List of New York State Historic Markers in Albany County, New York == | |||
| Hi. I think that the ] is complete. I have added a discussion on the point to the talk page there. Take care, --] (]) 20:40, 19 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :You got me, it is in fact complete. Concerns I have with the skimpy one sentence lead are on the talk page of the article. Feel free to ignore them, just suggestions. Good work though! List has come a long way due to your hard work.] (]) 22:03, 19 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == History of Troy has begun == | |||
| Just so you know I'm ]. ❄ ''']]''' ❄ 19:45, 24 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Happy belated Hanukkah, by the way. :) ❄ ''']]''' ❄ 19:46, 24 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| ❄ ''']]''' ❄ is wishing you a happy Capital District holiday! ] is coming up on one year of successful work. I'd like to thank you for the help and support, and effort to expand the scope of New York's Capital District on Misplaced Pages. Enjoy your respective holiday and best wishes for the coming new year (especially related to your content work on Misplaced Pages)! | |||
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| == Pollepel Island/Bannermans Island map == | |||
| A full year ago you asked about a map of Pollepel Island/Bannermans island, well there is one used in the . If the source for that is available, then that could be used. possibly ? How about Nautical maps of the river? Aren't those public? I have some of those and will scan if it's useful.--] (]) 17:40, 30 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == DYK for Beeren Island == | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for your fixes to ]. ] (]) 19:40, 3 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| |On ], ''']''' was updated with a fact from the article ''''']''''', which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page <small>(], )</small> and add it to ] if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the ]. | |||
| :Thank you! Very appreciated.] (]) 19:51, 3 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Please send email == | |||
| Would you mind ], so I can have your address? I want to send you something to look at. ''']]''' 22:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Just sent it. ''']]''' 00:38, 6 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::I'd like to hear what you think, if you've had a chance to read some of it. ''']]''' 02:55, 7 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ==Update== | |||
| Happy new year! Thought you might be interested in what happened at ], ], ] and ]. --]] 17:06, 8 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks but that drama got too heavy for me. I just hope it got resolved and everyone can just edit peacefully and civilly.] (]) 18:09, 8 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| I was doing some work to resolve it and am quite pleased with how I think it's been settled. Go take a look. :) --]] 03:40, 11 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Happy new year! In perusing this page I can piece together some bits and see that you've been looked *after* by some of the nice WP editors, including one or two I've had the good fortune to meet as well. Nice to see you're back. ] (]) 04:19, 13 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you! I truly appreciate it when people mention they appreciate me. Let me know if I can ever give any assistance in any way.] (]) 00:31, 14 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Well, you are clearly a genius ... == | |||
| (No, not mocking. LoL) Re: . | |||
| NOTE: I have just gotten off my second block amidst giving $1,000 to Misplaced Pages. (Smiling but not joking). | |||
| FYI: Will be initiating an Arbcom case soon. (Perhaps with musical chorus — perhaps not kidding about that either — see Misplaced Pages Western (musical) in the works: see my user page for clues to the style). | |||
| Tonight, while listening to , just smiling at your brilliance. ] <sup>(])</sup> 03:24, 12 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Im not quite sure I follow your post (I really do have the H1N1 flu right now and am not up to any deep thinking right now!) however I believe it was a compliment and not a sarcastic remark about my comment. Good luck at your Arbcom case, I'd be interested in what its about and if I can help. My post at the Village Pump wasnt the most eloquent I have written, I was quite pissed at the time in general at Wikipedians spouting social cohesion and political theory that freshmen learn (and then learn in grad school learn is a bunch of baloney and need to unlearn it). I am quite frustrated with these "arm-chair political theorists" thinking they can read a little Rouseau and Marx and become experts on how people organize and the structure of political systems. I literally am an expert on politics. (and yes my IQ does by definition makes me a genius). I am curious about what you agree with in particular about my post.] (]) 04:10, 12 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::If getting blocked for giving $1,000 sounds silly, you're right. LoL (Not quite how the blockers would put it, now would they? ^;^ NOTE: Yes, I donated $1,000 in response to Jimbo's end-of-year appeal. An important gesture of belief in the project.)<p>re: '''"political"'''<br>Consider the book title: '''''The Attack of the Blob: Hannah Arendt's Concept of the Social'''''<p>Now posit: '''"The political"''' vs '''"The social"'''<p>Let us say that in "the political" (ideal) realm ... strangers interact "under law."<p>But in "the social" realm ... groups interact with individuals ... in, um, reindeer games (remember, Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer? :)<p>Arbcom is more an embodiment of "the social" than "the political." It is not a matter of "people under law" but people not complying with "the social." yada yada yada<p>NOW ... imagine that Proofreader77 is an expert of '''rhetorical interaction''' which means expertise in persuasion ... which means understanding "the social" ... as well as how ideal application of policy would resolve if there was no "social corruption" (but noting that "the social" usually has ideals which may be appealed to under certain circumstances) ... etc etc etc ... <p><u>BUT you are sick right now</u>, so let me stop now ... with that hand waving in the direction of the path. <p>''By the way, do you remember the ending moments of ]? LoL ... Now imagine something vaguely similar ... with singing.'' :-) Get well soon. (P.S. ) -- ] <sup>(])</sup> 05:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Re: This may be useful for you... == | |||
| Thanks. And ] may be of use to you. Transcribed for my research, but thought it may help you source some things. ''']]''' 01:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :I have two discrepencies with that source compared to French's Gazeteer, which itself is not always reliable. So I have been searching the actual colonial laws, and I have put on that page in small print the parts regarding Pittstown that I have been unable to verify. If you happen across more sources with more information backing up Pittstown's history I would be grateful for any changes to make the ] more accurate. Pittstown is one of those towns that seem to have multiple forms of spelling and capitalization format (Pitt's Town) the farther back you go so its hard to do a word search for it.] (]) 00:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::Plus even today, their government is just so small that there is no real "organization", if you will. Weird place. I'll keep my eye out. ''']]''' 01:59, 18 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :::What is the equivalent word for ] in Judaism? ''']]''' 02:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Well, I had to actually research exactly what the word mass meant before I could answer this! I assume you want a word refering to a "religious service" in the generic form since Jews dont celebrate "mass" (apparently a Roman Catholic term) under any word (whereas Orthodox Christians and some Protestants do but often use a different term). The most common terms in English I know of that are used by Jews are the generic terms like "service", "religious service", or "prayer"; especially among Reform Jews who are more assimiliated into US culture the sentence most likely to be heard is "I'm going to services tonight", often with the holiday mentioned. If you need a Hebrew word- tefilah is the hebrew word for prayer and avodah is the word for worship (or prayer service would be better I guess, I dont know if it really means to "worship" like as in "he worships money"). There are specific special prayers in the Jewish liturgy such as the Sh'ma and Kiddish; and the mincha is a religious prayer reading (or full service) for orthodox and conservative Jews done daily; the siddur is the name of the prayer book. I guess I cant really answer if there is a direct word for liturgy used by Jews... I would just use a generic term.] (]) 04:32, 22 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Animation == | |||
| Hello Camelbinky. I'm still looking for someone willing to do this animation task. GIF is beyond my skill and some editors at Commons experienced in this area seem to be inactive. Just a ping to let you know that I haven't forgotten about your request. Cheers, --''']]''' 00:39, 22 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you for doing the legwork on that! Is there any place I should be posting a request at in order to put the word out? If there's anyway I can help let me know. Thank you again so much for your time and effort. I think whenever it is done it will be quite interesting and appreciated by many readers.] (]) 04:36, 22 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Truckads.com == | |||
| Mmkay. Does this mean i'm in trouble or did something wrong? <span style="border:1px solid #330000;padding:1px;background-color:#C0C0C0;color:#000000;">'''] • ] • ]'''</span> 22:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| : I see. I think you'll have to talk with ] about that. Perhaps he thought they were a copyright violation becuase Nielsen says their DMA maps are proprietary and copyrighted and cannot be used withotu permission, and Truckads.com has copies of the maps that they made themselves... I suppose would be like me drawing the logo of the ], for example. <span style="border:1px solid #330000;padding:1px;background-color:#C0C0C0;color:#000000;">'''] • ] • ]'''</span> 22:13, 23 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ==Civility== | |||
| ! ] | ] 11:07, 29 January 2010 (UTC). | |||
| :Thank you! Glad to know others agree with that point of view.] (]) 21:35, 29 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Historical populations == | |||
| What's your source for the historical population in Albany at ]? I'm trying to find the same thing for Brunswick. ''']]''' 01:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Hello - still interested in incivility blocks? == | |||
| Not sure if you are still following ], but there are a few initial proposals for the actual text of the policy that are now on the page. - ] (formerly ]) <sup>]</sup> 13:53, 2 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == NY 9R == | |||
| You trashed up the junction list, added unnecessary links (the links to town and city are clear cases of overlinking), incorrectly capitalized items that are not proper nouns ("exit 7"), and used unnecessary abbreviations ("ext." vs. "extension"). I shouldn't have to be the one responsible for mopping up this mess. – <span style="background:lightblue; border:1px green solid; padding:2px">''']]]'''</span> 17:04, 6 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :If you dont want to make it better, then just dont bother with working on it or reverting it then. You could have posted on the talk page or on my talk page here as you've done. The article was WRONG. If I took the attitude that cleaning up wrong information in articles shouldnt be my "responsibility" then that would be a shame.] (]) 17:12, 6 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::Including the two links you mention I added only three links all together, hardly overlinking. And as New York towns are unique it is standard practice to link them at their first mention so it cna be known that these are political entities and not "town" as in "settlement".] (]) 17:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Replacing Infobox settlement with Geobox == | |||
| I don't really care which box is used, but it would be great if you preserved the data during . In particular, the map and coordinates were removed. Otherwise, it looks like you added some more data, which is of course an improvement. I will see if I can sort out the rest. Thanks! ] ] 19:23, 8 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you for catching the map and coord problem on that one. I did over 9 articles recently with changing the infobox to the geobox while at the same time doing huge additions to history and geography sections and luckily this seems to be the only one I missed on. Thank you again for the catch and fix. Sorry for any inconvenience. Hope you enjoyed the history section I put in, let me know if there is anything I can do for you.] (]) 02:27, 9 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::No problem. By the way both {{tl|Infobox settlement}} and {{tl|Geobox}} do automatic conversion from either imperial to metric or metric to imperial. All you do is leave one of the fields blank. I have no idea why people fill in both fields. For automatic density computations, you set the corresponding density field to auto. As I said, I really don't have a preference which box is used, but as far as I can tell they are almost entirely feature compatible. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks! ] ] 15:10, 9 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Lisha's Kill == | |||
| Thanks for your note. One of my great-great-grandmothers was a Lansing from Lisha's Kill. I did a double-take when I saw that community's name in your note to Doncram. I don't remember her father's first name right now, so there's not much purpose in looking at maps to find which tract she lived on. However, in the Bi-Centennial History that you cited, I saw the name of the man (unrelated) that my great-grandfather (her son) was named for, so I already learned something! I've had a belief that family history justifies creating articles about tiny, obscure communities, and this experience supports that theory. You have done a nice job of documenting this almost-forgotten community. BTW, I looked at the site in Google maps, and I see the Dutch Reformed Church in streetview, so it's clear that the church still exists. --] (]) 03:06, 13 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Your family is VERY important to the greater Albany and Troy areas especially to Cohoes, Lansingburgh (obviously) and many other small communities. It's true that Lisha Kill is almost forgotten, the town's recent master plan and zoning calls for it to be a rural buffer between Stanford Heights and Maywood (two larger hamlets) and while that protects this community from strip malls and more car dealerships it does take away any hope of creating a sense of neighborhood and just makes it a dividing line between the two other places. Like lots of other communities in this area once they lose their post office like Lisha Kill did, and people have to start using another place's name for their mail the community's identity is soon lost or at least slowly canabalized. Even communities live under the survival of the fittest philosophy. ] will be the next one on my list of soon to be forgotten hamlets I hope to save.] (]) 03:58, 13 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Just so you know == | |||
| I superseded ] with ], which is a crop I made from ], which is an ''awesome'' map from the time. I made some crops for ] and ], but keep your eye out. A crop of this map could be used in many places, so feel free to chop away and use as necessary in articles. Also, you should check out . Note the subjects (categories) listed on the bottom. Check them out, there are some good maps out there. ''']]''' 03:33, 22 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Much better, cleaner, and clearer maps!] (]) 05:05, 22 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == In need of a source == | |||
| I'm in need of a source that says that Lansingburgh was annexed into Troy and what the date was. Do you have one? Also, have you seen anything around in your travels that discusses the land deals between Troy and Brunswick? (i.e. when different parts were annexed to each other. They seem to have gone back and forth in some instances). Thanks. ''']]''' 12:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Re; State highway system == | |||
| That would be a case of the state maintains a totally different system than what it is. For example New York State Route 911E is State Highway 656, a different number entirely. They're just internal, unsigned route #s for the state.<FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE="-1" COLOR="red">Mitch</FONT><b>32</b><sup>(] ])</sup> 10:52, 10 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Just so you know == | |||
| == Warinus de la Strode == | |||
| I created ], ], ], and ] so we don't have to link to sections of an article directly, which is now frowned upon. ''']]''' 22:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks, I'll use them from now on and change the others as I remember.] (]) 23:19, 21 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
| Kindly proceed to ] to provide an explanation for what you just did. — ] <span style="color:#900">•</span> ] 19:56, 6 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Proof read request == | |||
| :Camelbinky: I reverted your reversions, since you did not provide any edit summaries for your reversions of legitimate deletions of questionable material. Please explain your edits on the talk page of the article. --] (]) 00:27, 8 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Would you mind giving ] a proof read? I pretty much finished it (i.e. exhausted all available sources on an obscure guy from the 1850s). I'm going to see if I can bring this to GAN and be taken seriously. :) Thanks in advance! ''']]''' 22:31, 24 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == |
== December 2013 == | ||
| ] Hello, I'm ]. I noticed that you made a comment on the page ] that didn't seem very ], so it has been removed. Misplaced Pages needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on ]. Thank you. <!-- Template:uw-npa1 --> ''']]''' 22:23, 23 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == We all know Belguim doesn't exist anyways- == | |||
| I saw on your user page. What is Merlin One? Does it hold old articles from papers? Because that would be extremely helpful. ''']]''' 02:00, 4 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Its the service that the Times Union now stores its archives, when you pull up the archives on their website it still looks the way it always did, but apparently when you copy/paste the url and later click on the link it occasionally shows the article from the Merlin One website instead of the TU, and sometimes it shows it as the TU website (why or how I have no clue, guessing the TU saves money by outsourcing it and sometimes the redirects arent working?) I havent had the chance to explore Merlin One and see what else it has though. I have found Schenectady Gazette archives for 1920-1997 at Google News, that may come in handy for you, though I'm unsure of just how well they have historically covered Rensselaer County.] (]) 16:35, 4 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::I have a subscription to NewspaperArchive.org which holds the Troy Record and Times Record, so that's helpful with my research. How far back do the TU archives go now? Before it was limited to 1986. Is it any further now? ''']]''' 16:38, 4 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :::Still 1986, havent been able to find any service that carries it farther. The TU archives also have the Knickerbocker News from 1986 to their merger with the TU. It sucks because the TU is 150+ years old and its stories are stuck in library microfiche and microfilm. The NY Times online archives last I checked are still free and go back to the 1860s or earlier.] (]) 16:47, 4 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| Ciao Camelbinky, | |||
| == Your note == | |||
| :I copied this from your contribution on Wales's TP. Indeed with your typo you're right, but worse is you believe an irrelevant blog, They confused people who live there with the country as explained in the essay '''', just like Americans are New Yorkers, Texans etc. Belgians are Vlaming, Walon, German-speaking or multi-lingual. The country is a federal kingdom existing since 1830. Read more in Misplaced Pages in your language :-) | |||
| I am sorry, but I don't see how this has anything to do with SV, or is in any way "arrogant". There is clearly broad consensus that policies override guidelines; for example when there is conflict between WP:V and WP:IRS. Noticeboard are essentially random editors explaining their opinions about the relevant policy. Quite often, a single editor's opinion is used to "decide" an issue. But even if there are more editors forming a local consensus on a board, it can never override the governing policy. A board is a place where people gather to interpret a policy in specific cases, not to change the controlling policy. In case of conflict, the policy overrides until it is changed. ] (]) 23:35, 10 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| Kind regards from an ex-nederbelg, ]|Z4␟]: 08:26, 5 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Misuse of sources == | |||
| : |
::There seems to be a language barrier. My initial comment was a joke. I know quite a bit about Belguim and it's history, thank you.] (]) 13:27, 5 September 2014 (UTC) | ||
| :The language troubles are political and artificial. Ask the way to go in Brussels in French or Dutch you might get no answer depending on the listener's native tongue and her/his ''nationalism''. Happened to me really. Solution: English, ''lingua franca del mondo'' Cheers, ]|Z4␟]: 08:13, 6 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::I'm confused as to what this is in regards to... My apologies for not being clear headed right now and not putting the pieces together.] (]) 23:10, 13 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ah, I believe these are specific instances that show what we've been discussing on the WP:V talk page regarding sourced information being false and ties into the quotes at the top of my talk page as well. Thank you for this. It is sad there are so many of these instances in which information ''looks'' to be well-sourced but in reality the information bears no resemblence to the source itself.] (]) 23:21, 13 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == |
==''Half Moon''== | ||
| ''En waarom niet?'' Hudson himself was English. ] (]) 23:29, 12 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == AN/I discussion about you == | |||
| ] really should be Category:People from New York's Capital District. Same with ]. Categories are a bit finicky, so I'm not sure if it's a simple move. Would you be willing to look into this? ''']]''' 02:37, 16 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Sure, I'm just re-reading the ] article again for grammar and spelling and such. Once I'm done I can goof around with moving it, probably a simple move to a new name, though I guess I'll have to write down all the articles in each category and go back to change the category name because we dont want them categorized to a redirect...Are those the only two or are there more? (and Im sorry if I'm the one who created the categories and put the wrong name! ooops!)] (]) 02:48, 16 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::There's a way to make a cat redirect to another cat, but it's not as simple as a regular redirect. Might have to ask around a bit. Not sure if you it's as simple as moving a category to a new category name, though. Again, will have to ask around a bit. ''']]''' 20:30, 16 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ] There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is ]. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you. ] (]) 17:26, 11 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == US News and World Report and the CMT == | |||
| == Sprouts of the Mohawk River: Revision history == | |||
| If you could give a few details about the article I'd like to track it down and see if it would add to the article. ] (]) 17:53, 18 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Not just one article, an entire special edition devoted to the entire subject. Should still be on the newstands; I got my copy at Walmart. I can get the actual magazine issue number and other relevant information if it is still at my work tomorrow and wasnt put out in the trash.] (]) 17:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::Is it ? Or ? I might be able to get full text access online, if I can locate the exact issue. ] (]) 19:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :::First one.] (]) 22:20, 18 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Thanks. I'll see if I have access. ] (]) 00:19, 19 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Sadly, I don't seem to be able to access it online. ] (]) 02:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::I dont recall USN&W being ] but anyone with access to a college library (or a large public municipal library) can go to JSTOR for free and perhaps it is there; I'm sure there'd be lots of different articles from different journals on this topic anyways so it may be worth it. Its a shame there is (to my knowledge) no way for the Foundation to pay for a subscription and then allow all editors of Misplaced Pages to use the subscription. It truly would be an invaluable source, especially for topics like this that get lots work published in professional journals that are hard to access.] (]) 03:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| Now tell me, just what in the article supports your contention that all this "in the middle" is truly in the middle? Provide a map or a link to that information that will help the reader understand and accept your statement. Otherwise you are on the long list of UKJR--unilateral knee jerk reverter.] (]) 15:26, 21 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == How do you want to handle this? == | |||
| :Please log in using an account rather than an IP. Plus this is a discussion for the talk page of the article, not my user talk page. BRD, you were bold, I reverted, now every one discusses on the article talk page. That's how it works. Not discuss here and not an edit war. Leave the article alone until consensus determines your change may happen.] (]) 16:54, 21 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
| If you treat people disrespectfully and as being stupid you have to expect your actions to have appropriate repercussions. If you expect someone to be aware of a discussion on the TP when reviewing an article then you have just, maybe unconsciously, become aware of a problem with WP--no link or notification while in the article that the article is in discussion on the TP. As you may be a more senior participant in WP, it may be through your influence that this issue needs to be addressed with proper means in the article. As expecting to review before action, let me direct you to my page: "IP user identification--PLEASE refrain from appearing prejudicial about my continued WP participant with an IP. Yes, I know about user names and do not have one. That is explanation far more than what the question is worth. Nothing against those that do have a user name. AGAIN -- PLEASE, refrain from appearing prejudicial especially by those that seem to take great pleasure toward those with which they disagree about WP content and attack the IP user for being identified as such.66.74.176.59 (talk) 14:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)". I do log in, under my IP address and according to the fundamental WP philosophy that should be totally adequate, and this continued insistence that I and other IP username participants is a continued confirmation that those using such identification on WP are frowned upon--that does not appear to be very consistent with a "community-based" effort. I do not know if you understand the action you have taken by addressing the IP issue but that is in the long run what you have achieved--and since you very well be a more senior participant in WP that action can be on behalf of WP subliminally understood as the standing policy regarding a recommendation but not absolute rule of a formal username being established. Wait......I know--that was not your intention. Guess what? That is what it conveys. And since this whole gig concerns what is expressed all the more calls for attention to be paid to just what one with authority says. Sometimes some people may not understand this point--the "promotion" of participants within WP is by invitation only. Someone is promoted by those that have previously been thought acceptable. Talk about incest. That very well perpetuate the worst that can happen within a hierarchy. | |||
| You posted some comments on my talk page. Do you want me to respond on your talk page or do you want me to respond on my talk page? How do you want to handle this? By the way, I don't consider you an enemy, in spite of my good faith comments regarding your accusations against Eugene. You simply made, IMHO, a slanderous comment. If that was not your intention, then I'm willing to assume good faith and ignore it. But if you really intended it to be slanderous, then we can discuss it in another venue. Please note that my comments on ANI were NOT meant as a threat, or as an attempt at bullying. I sincerely believe there is an injustice being done, and I simply want to give detractors the opportunity to reconsider their emotional outbursts so that we can all work together to create a great article. Thank you for your consideration. ] (]) 23:21, 18 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :How do I want to handle this? I want you and Eugene to drop the whole issue of Slrubenstein "being mean" to Eugene. Other than that I have no intention of continuing this or of apologizing for having my personal opinion that Eugene made poor choices in continuing to make comments that multiple editors told him MUST stop. You are not helping yourself, nor Eugene, by making the statement you made at AN/I or here on my talk page. Btw- slander is spoken, and it along with libel are legal concepts; as Eugene was warned at AN/I by multiple editors- please dont use such words when making accusations against other editors. I appreciate that you are fighting because you believe there is an injustice; however please appreciate and accept that the only injustice '''I''' saw was the analogy and comparison Eugene made and continued to make even after he was asked by many editors to stop. I have no intention of this being continued, respond wherever you wish, that wont change the fact that I dont care.] (]) 23:32, 18 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| Let me attempt to explain what seems to be so prevalent with more advanced WP participants--a ready reference to warring and vandalism. Yes, I know you have yet to make any reference to vandalism but there just seems to be these reoccurring actions with senior WP participants that can only be attributed to knee jerk or subconscious thought and action. I do not expect for you to understand this but promotion of those that have previously been promoted by those previous leaves very little room for those that have a different point of view. If one does have a different point of view it seems that warring and vandalism seem to emerge very quickly. Again, I do not expect for you to understand this but there is much in the world that we may not understand and it is ones approach to it that can be all telling. Is this coming from someone that is paranoid? If you think so then you are on the wrong track. Now, I am willing to overlook any views I may have toward what one may choose as their username but I will not accept from someone, particularly a senior WP participant, that a username other than an IP address makes one more credible. That is a prejudice that the WP hierarchy needs to address. WP is not a robotic action and if you are unwilling to take the time to review what information is available to you about a participant then you have to expect unfavorable reaction to what is the response and the implication. So I hope that this has addressed the issue of using an IP username and the previously mentioned inadequacy of WP notification that an article is under discussion. There really needs to be addressed the issue of more senior WP participants viewing that to which they disagree as being malicious.] (]) 19:27, 21 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Fair enough. Thank you for frankness. But let me reiterate, I'm not your enemy, and I have no intention of treating you as such. We just have a difference of opinion. ] (]) 23:47, 18 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Boss, we need to talk... == | |||
| Thank you for your comments in the Slanderous Accusations of Anti-Semitism thread. I don't think we met but thank you! ]<sup><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></sup> 10:24, 19 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| You're making a hash of things on Jimbo's talk page.<br> | |||
| == Facebook/Wikipedia integration == | |||
| You need to go back and clear things up there.<br> | |||
| You can't just make random threats about violence, etc.<br> | |||
| I am disappoint. ] (]) 19:05, 7 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Facebook has made a page for anything you want to put on your profile, so if you say you're from Albany, New York, it links to a Facebook page that currently defaults to an imported version of the article from here. Talk about pressure! That's a lot more eyes seeing our work! ''']]''' 01:16, 22 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| *Hey, that makes two of us. Camelbinky, regarding --how do I say this gently--you're a fool. You've been hanging out on Jimbo's talk page too long. ] (]) 16:04, 8 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Well...that's going to definitely up our readership on the plus side! Its just such a large article with alot of work from many different editors already put in it... its not like when we did the Capital District article where we pretty much did it from scratch; I just dont know if I have it in me to help on an overhaul of an article so established with so much good sitting next to so much that needs cleaned up, there's multiple issues with it and articles that need to be spun off from it... still burnt out from my marathon of "creating something better than a stub" for every hamlet in Albany County that I could find something notable or interesting about; BUT I think starting tomorrow I can start working on it...] (]) 03:16, 22 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Vanishing == | |||
| == Surge on ] == | |||
| Camelbinky, if you're looking to lower your profile, don't post to Jimbo's page; that would be 100% guaranteed to attract more trolling. ] says to post a request to the crat's mailing list; that seems the best course of action if you want to vanish. I'll post a link to that in a sec. --] (]) 14:30, 21 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| I think we should tackle this. Let's bring it to GA status. I think you were using ] as a basis, but that's under ] right now, and honestly, it's not that great. However, ] is a recently elevated FA and also a capital city. I think the first step, along your expertise, would be to summarize ] for use in the main article, only noting general things (nothing ''too'' specific, is all I'm saying). Let's start the rewrite ]. When DC made it to FA, it was covered by the ]. I wonder what could happen to us. :) I'll also work on finding good/better images for use in the article. ''']]''' 22:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :] says to send an email here: ]. --] (]) 14:31, 21 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Didnt know that about NYC, that's sad, lots of editors have worked hard on that article, but it probably suffered from too many cooks in the kitchen because it was such a popular article. Sounds good to start it in a sandbox first. Ill start the second I have can schedule a big block of time.] (]) 18:00, 24 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::Nice. <s>On a very unrelated note, would you mind putting your 2¢ in ]? Don't get too long winded or upset, please. :) But I'm sick of the conspiracy theories. You've seen my work, and I think you appreciate and respect it. Maybe you can impress upon them I'm not here to blow the place up and/or ruin someone's life?</s> ''']]''' 21:41, 24 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ignore the above comment. It has been taken as canvassing. While that was not my intent, I can see where they're coming from. Getting back to more productive matters, after reading DC a few times, I think we can hit this section by section, possibly even copying what they used there. I'm gonna start on the Media section I think. ''']]''' 02:17, 25 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :::GRRRRRRRR! After simply skimming the link you sent me (which is why you should delete things you dont want me to see instead of striking them through ;)) I must say I'm PISSED at how this is being handled and if it wasnt for so many editors watching my talk page hoping I say something uncivil... Lets just say I didnt like Rico's comments at ALL of the many places this Ely issue has come up with and I havent liked Delicious Carbuncles comments at pretty much any place I see him/her, this isnt my first go-around with that editor. I didnt see where they accused you of canvassing but if they said anything even remotely rude about me or towards you for doing it please let me know. As far as Rico's comment saying "Jimbo called it a hatchet job" that is '''taken out of context''' and let Rico come here and say it wasnt taken out of context because it was I was at the discussion and read first hand Jimbo's original comment and he had gone on and given you AGF and said the sources used already painted that picture, you were going by the sources, I did not see that Jimbo accused you of anything improper, though perhaps we should have him comment and see what he thinks of your work if they are going to throw around Jimbo's name like that. ARRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH! One freakin article is ruining the overshadowing and ruining the reputation of the NYCD wikiproject, I think we've done so much good and now this....] (]) 05:25, 25 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Yea. | |||
| ::::We'll get over it. I need some citations at ]. Has some great facts, but few sources. I got some in for newspapers, but that's about it. Once we cite all those statements, that section will be done. ''']]''' 05:54, 25 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I'll do my best on those sources tonight, though I'm probably going to hit the hay soon. You should consider it too, must be past 2am your time.] (]) 06:01, 25 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Yup it is. Also, what's the name of the state office complex located here: {{coord|42|40|46.77|N|73|48|34.82|W|region:US}} Is there an article for it? ''']]''' 06:08, 25 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :Governor W. Averell Harriman State Office Campus; it was established by the said governor, predates the ESP and next door SUNY campus (both of which were constructed by Governor Nelson Rockefeller) by at least a decade or two. Pataki had plans to move just about all state workers out to downtown Albany, Schenectady, Troy and completely sell it off to a developer as a mixed use tech/office space with townhouses, hotels, parks, eliminate the ring road and demolish all but one or two state buildings, connect it to the surrounding communities and the university, Spitzer reworked the plans from scratch with little enthusiasm for the idea, and finally Paterson has killed it, there is currently plans of selling off bits and pieces and giving some to the university. The state police academy is there, squished between the ring road and the university campus. The portion along the top on the north side of Washington Ave was already sold two decades or more ago to a private company and is now the Patroon Creek Corporate Park.] (]) 06:18, 25 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
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gun control kosher
Complete aside. Hunting isn't kosher? Isn't the old testament full of stories of jews hunting? Did the rules change?Gaijin42 (talk) 02:04, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- It is unkosher to eat any animal, regardless of whether the animal itself would otherwise be kosher. Kosher rules demand that an animal be slaughtered in a certain way, and hunting does not allow that. Everyone in the Bible prior to Abraham was not Jewish, since he is the first Jew, the stories in the Bible that mention "so-and-so" was a hunter, such as Cain, are about non-Jews. Also, all Jewish law, including Kosher, did not come about until Moses, and if you believe some religious scholars perhaps not until much later during the period of the split kingdos of Israel and Judah.Camelbinky (talk) 11:24, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Highest point in Albany
The only official source for any elevation in the U.S. is the U.S. Geological Survey's maps. For Albany, I found that elevation here, which can be verified from the geolinks you get to if you click the coordinates. If you're looking for a source saying that's the highest point, it's not really necessary. You just look at the map and find it—I think that's permissible since it's not a question of interpretation. Daniel Case (talk) 22:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Policy discussion at Seraphimblade's
Thank you for your comments there. I responded. I think block evasion actually could possibly constitute a violation of WP:SOCK which has been tortured into saying "any impermissible use" or something like that, but policy cannot redefine the Eenglish language. Colton Cosmic 11:44, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
"R is for retarded and A is for asshole"
That made me laugh. While I must disagree with you about the situation and the likely outcome, anyone who has the balls to talk like that is AOK in my book! Joefromrandb (talk) 09:34, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Move request at Talk:Birthplace of Gautama Buddha
Did you put that move request there intentionally? So far, no one seems to understand what it is trying to say. —BarrelProof (talk) 15:23, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Great minds think alike
Had an edit conflict at AN. I thought I was the first to oppose the community ban on wikiexperts, but you beat me to it. Well said. I totally agree. --B2C 21:38, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Ban Appeal of AKonanykhin
Hi. Since you were involved in the discussion resulting in the ban of Wikiexperts, you may want to consider the CEO's appeal at Misplaced Pages:AN#Ban Appeal of AKonanykhin. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 16:36, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
COI editing
1. Declare your COI on the talk page. 2. Mind NPOV closely. 3. Ask a couple Wikipedian content writers with no COI to review your work. If anyone flips you any shit unfairly, please get in touch with me, I'll raise hell. Carrite (talk) 01:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Your msg to User:Corpse-ManoftheObamaclypse
I don't really like the user name User:Corpse-ManoftheObamaclypse, it surely shows a political view that I disagree with (or seems to anyway). But I don't see it as violating any part of our Username policy. Which part do you think it violates? DES 21:40, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- DES I believe this excerpt from the Username Policy covers his/her name, but that is just my interpretation-
- The following types of usernames are not permitted because they are disruptive or offensive:
- Usernames that are likely to offend other contributors, making harmonious editing difficult or impossible, for example by containing profanities.
- Usernames that contain or imply personal attacks.
- Usernames that seem intended to provoke emotional reaction ("trolling").
- What is your opinion?Camelbinky (talk) 21:44, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- Camelbinky, you indicated above that you believe my username to be disruptive and offensive. If that is the case, where is the disruption? Where is the offense? I have been editing under this username since July. If there were truly a disruption or an offense, I think we would have seen it by now. I prefer to keep my username as it is. I see no reason to change it. Corpse-ManoftheObamaclypse (talk) 05:16, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- I'm with Camelbinky on this one. "Obamaclypse" suggests something along the lines of "the end of the world", which begs the question whether, maybe, a black US president is somehow signified in the Book of Revelations or something. I find it very difficult to take seriously the edits of someone with a user name like that. So yes, I find it disruptive, and I'm on the verge of blocking. Does
- Drmies, it seems that you have chosen to take offense at my username. I do not find my username offensive. In fact, I find it rather amusing. If you (or Camelbinky) had come to me individually and told me what it was that you found so hurtful about my username, I may have reconsidered it. Instead, Camelbinky wrote on my userpage--with no reason or explanation--that my username was offensive, and you commented on Camelbinky's page in a way that insinuated racist intent on my part. We have some options here. If you want, you can continue to take offense at my username, I can choose to take offense at your veiled accusation of racism, and then we can waste time trading snarky remarks on each other's Misplaced Pages pages (or other people's) about how offended we are at one another. If you want, you are also free to attempt to censor my username. Then we can waste our time--and, probably, other people's--arguing about that. (You can expect me to ask questions like, "If someone chose the username 'Voodoo Economics,' would the other Wikipedians try to censor it?") I tend to think that life is too short for this stuff, and that 2013 American society--to the extent that we still have anything left that can be described as a society--spends far too much time talking about who is supposed to be offended by what. I would prefer to spend my time actually improving the encyclopedia. In closing, I would respectfully refer you to the very sensible comments made by DES above. Cheers! Corpse-ManoftheObamaclypse (talk) 07:32, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- Corpse clearly has a battleground mentality of Misplaced Pages that shows his/her name is only the tip of the iceberg of a bigger problem that may lead to further disruption over any type of disagreement on Misplaced Pages. He/she does not understand how discussion and conflict resolution occurs in Misplaced Pages and has chosen instead to see discussions and differing opinions as either "ignore me and let me do what I want" or "we'll waste time and insult each other". This is not how Misplaced Pages works and such an opinion of Misplaced Pages is worse than his/her name.Camelbinky (talk) 13:19, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see it. Corpse-ManoftheObamaclypse's expresses, or seems to express, a political view, specifically a very negative view of the current President of the United States. I know many pwole who view this president negatively due to his policies and not his race. I see nothing in the name to imply a racist view, and I choose to assume good faith. I will say that I think a less politically charged and less potentially controversial username would be better -- CMO, think how the name will look/sound in 5 years, when for good or ill someone else is President -- but i have seen other politically charged names on Misplaced Pages before and the skies didn't fall nor the servers crash. As to a battle ground mentality, it was sugested in this discussion that CMO had racist motivs for his name, and he objected, said there could be a long fight, but that he "would prefer to spend my time actually improving the encyclopedia". He hasn't as far as I can tell (after a brief look at his recent edits) been editing disruptively or POV-pushing. In fact his editing seems to be helpful to the project. I think you would do well to drop the matter. But if you really feel that this user name is too disruptive to work with, then you should start an open RFC and see what the community position is. CMO, You might want to consider a change to a less overtly political name, but I don't think our current policy in any way requires you to do so. DES 14:17, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- Corpse clearly has a battleground mentality of Misplaced Pages that shows his/her name is only the tip of the iceberg of a bigger problem that may lead to further disruption over any type of disagreement on Misplaced Pages. He/she does not understand how discussion and conflict resolution occurs in Misplaced Pages and has chosen instead to see discussions and differing opinions as either "ignore me and let me do what I want" or "we'll waste time and insult each other". This is not how Misplaced Pages works and such an opinion of Misplaced Pages is worse than his/her name.Camelbinky (talk) 13:19, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- Drmies, it seems that you have chosen to take offense at my username. I do not find my username offensive. In fact, I find it rather amusing. If you (or Camelbinky) had come to me individually and told me what it was that you found so hurtful about my username, I may have reconsidered it. Instead, Camelbinky wrote on my userpage--with no reason or explanation--that my username was offensive, and you commented on Camelbinky's page in a way that insinuated racist intent on my part. We have some options here. If you want, you can continue to take offense at my username, I can choose to take offense at your veiled accusation of racism, and then we can waste time trading snarky remarks on each other's Misplaced Pages pages (or other people's) about how offended we are at one another. If you want, you are also free to attempt to censor my username. Then we can waste our time--and, probably, other people's--arguing about that. (You can expect me to ask questions like, "If someone chose the username 'Voodoo Economics,' would the other Wikipedians try to censor it?") I tend to think that life is too short for this stuff, and that 2013 American society--to the extent that we still have anything left that can be described as a society--spends far too much time talking about who is supposed to be offended by what. I would prefer to spend my time actually improving the encyclopedia. In closing, I would respectfully refer you to the very sensible comments made by DES above. Cheers! Corpse-ManoftheObamaclypse (talk) 07:32, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- Can anyone point out to the Corpse Man that I didn't "insinuate racist intent"? That I didn't say anything about "hurtful", just "disruptive"? That there is no question of "censorship"? Corpse, you don't seem to understand a basic point: of course you don't find your own user name disruptive, but that doesn't mean others can't. We teach that kind of stuff in elementary school: "disruption" doesn't pertain to your opinion, but to that of those you have to work with in a collaborative project. There's two editors here that have a problem with it, and you accuse them of things they didn't say. Now, DESiegel doesn't agree with me and Camelbinky, and that's fine. If I had thought that your user name was a clear violation, I would have blocked you already. Instead I asked you to consider changing your name, which you respond to with all kinds of irrelevant rhetoric ("it seems that you have chosen to take offense at my username"? well, you chose the name and I took offense to it, yes) and a claim of "don't call me a racist and censor me". In other words, "help I'm being oppressed". Well, you're not. You picked a name which evidently some people find offensive and you don't care. That's fine. Just don't expect this administrator to help you out if you need help. Camelbinky, I'll leave this be, and you're welcome to remove this reply, or indeed the entire thread. Thank you for sticking your neck out. Drmies (talk) 15:07, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- You're welcome Drmies, it doesn't always work but I'm always willing to stick my neck out to make sure things that I think need to get attention, get attention. I'll leave this thread up and originally I had gone to Jimbo's page with the question of what to do about a name like this, I think others may come here or take other action, or speak up in CMO's defense as well. I do see the battleground mentality in CMO's use of rhetoric and saying the options are for us to drop it or to go back and forth in snarky comments. I don't see, especially the second, being legitimate options and if CMO truly thinks snarky comments back and forth is a proper option- then someone needs to keep an eye on him/her for the future.Camelbinky (talk) 16:14, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Good catch
My, that was poorly phrased, having such a wide scope. Good catch! // FrankB 22:31, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Kingdom City, Missouri
Hi, Camelbinky. Love that name! You are probably not aware of it, but I had taken that photo off that page about a year ago and attempted to start a discussion. No-one responded. If you would like to see that photo on that page, please come talk about it. Thanks! John from Idegon (talk) 00:58, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Copyeditor's Barnstar |
| Thanks for your fixes to Lark Street. Bearian (talk) 19:40, 3 December 2013 (UTC) |
- Thank you! Very appreciated.Camelbinky (talk) 19:51, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Warinus de la Strode
Kindly proceed to Talk:Warinus de la Strode to provide an explanation for what you just did. — Scott • talk 19:56, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- Camelbinky: I reverted your reversions, since you did not provide any edit summaries for your reversions of legitimate deletions of questionable material. Please explain your edits on the talk page of the article. --Saddhiyama (talk) 00:27, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
December 2013
Hello, I'm LFaraone. I noticed that you made a comment on the page User talk:Jimbo Wales that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Misplaced Pages needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. LFaraone 22:23, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
We all know Belguim doesn't exist anyways-
Ciao Camelbinky,
- I copied this from your contribution on Wales's TP. Indeed with your typo you're right, but worse is you believe an irrelevant blog, They confused people who live there with the country as explained in the essay Sire, er zijn geen Belgen, just like Americans are New Yorkers, Texans etc. Belgians are Vlaming, Walon, German-speaking or multi-lingual. The country is a federal kingdom existing since 1830. Read more in Misplaced Pages in your language :-)
Kind regards from an ex-nederbelg, Klaas|Z4␟V: 08:26, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- There seems to be a language barrier. My initial comment was a joke. I know quite a bit about Belguim and it's history, thank you.Camelbinky (talk) 13:27, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- The language troubles are political and artificial. Ask the way to go in Brussels in French or Dutch you might get no answer depending on the listener's native tongue and her/his nationalism. Happened to me really. Solution: English, lingua franca del mondo Cheers, Klaas|Z4␟V: 08:13, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Half Moon
En waarom niet? Hudson himself was English. Sca (talk) 23:29, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
AN/I discussion about you
There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Could you block Camelbinky for determined personal attack please. Thank you. Dmcq (talk) 17:26, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Sprouts of the Mohawk River: Revision history
Now tell me, just what in the article supports your contention that all this "in the middle" is truly in the middle? Provide a map or a link to that information that will help the reader understand and accept your statement. Otherwise you are on the long list of UKJR--unilateral knee jerk reverter.66.74.176.59 (talk) 15:26, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- Please log in using an account rather than an IP. Plus this is a discussion for the talk page of the article, not my user talk page. BRD, you were bold, I reverted, now every one discusses on the article talk page. That's how it works. Not discuss here and not an edit war. Leave the article alone until consensus determines your change may happen.Camelbinky (talk) 16:54, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
If you treat people disrespectfully and as being stupid you have to expect your actions to have appropriate repercussions. If you expect someone to be aware of a discussion on the TP when reviewing an article then you have just, maybe unconsciously, become aware of a problem with WP--no link or notification while in the article that the article is in discussion on the TP. As you may be a more senior participant in WP, it may be through your influence that this issue needs to be addressed with proper means in the article. As expecting to review before action, let me direct you to my page: "IP user identification--PLEASE refrain from appearing prejudicial about my continued WP participant with an IP. Yes, I know about user names and do not have one. That is explanation far more than what the question is worth. Nothing against those that do have a user name. AGAIN -- PLEASE, refrain from appearing prejudicial especially by those that seem to take great pleasure toward those with which they disagree about WP content and attack the IP user for being identified as such.66.74.176.59 (talk) 14:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)". I do log in, under my IP address and according to the fundamental WP philosophy that should be totally adequate, and this continued insistence that I and other IP username participants is a continued confirmation that those using such identification on WP are frowned upon--that does not appear to be very consistent with a "community-based" effort. I do not know if you understand the action you have taken by addressing the IP issue but that is in the long run what you have achieved--and since you very well be a more senior participant in WP that action can be on behalf of WP subliminally understood as the standing policy regarding a recommendation but not absolute rule of a formal username being established. Wait......I know--that was not your intention. Guess what? That is what it conveys. And since this whole gig concerns what is expressed all the more calls for attention to be paid to just what one with authority says. Sometimes some people may not understand this point--the "promotion" of participants within WP is by invitation only. Someone is promoted by those that have previously been thought acceptable. Talk about incest. That very well perpetuate the worst that can happen within a hierarchy.
Let me attempt to explain what seems to be so prevalent with more advanced WP participants--a ready reference to warring and vandalism. Yes, I know you have yet to make any reference to vandalism but there just seems to be these reoccurring actions with senior WP participants that can only be attributed to knee jerk or subconscious thought and action. I do not expect for you to understand this but promotion of those that have previously been promoted by those previous leaves very little room for those that have a different point of view. If one does have a different point of view it seems that warring and vandalism seem to emerge very quickly. Again, I do not expect for you to understand this but there is much in the world that we may not understand and it is ones approach to it that can be all telling. Is this coming from someone that is paranoid? If you think so then you are on the wrong track. Now, I am willing to overlook any views I may have toward what one may choose as their username but I will not accept from someone, particularly a senior WP participant, that a username other than an IP address makes one more credible. That is a prejudice that the WP hierarchy needs to address. WP is not a robotic action and if you are unwilling to take the time to review what information is available to you about a participant then you have to expect unfavorable reaction to what is the response and the implication. So I hope that this has addressed the issue of using an IP username and the previously mentioned inadequacy of WP notification that an article is under discussion. There really needs to be addressed the issue of more senior WP participants viewing that to which they disagree as being malicious.66.74.176.59 (talk) 19:27, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Boss, we need to talk...
You're making a hash of things on Jimbo's talk page.
You need to go back and clear things up there.
You can't just make random threats about violence, etc.
I am disappoint. Henry Bellagnome (talk) 19:05, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
- Hey, that makes two of us. Camelbinky, regarding this--how do I say this gently--you're a fool. You've been hanging out on Jimbo's talk page too long. Drmies (talk) 16:04, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Vanishing
Camelbinky, if you're looking to lower your profile, don't post to Jimbo's page; that would be 100% guaranteed to attract more trolling. WP:VANISH says to post a request to the crat's mailing list; that seems the best course of action if you want to vanish. I'll post a link to that in a sec. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:30, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:Courtesy vanishing#How to request a courtesy vanishing says to send an email here: Special:EmailUser/Bureaucrats. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:31, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
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