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I don't know whether rollback reverts all the edits on the article by user or a chain of edits? --] (] + ]) 14:29, 22 April 2010 (UTC)


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:It will revert all the edits done by a single user in a row. For example, you just edited this page twice. I which reverted both of them. Rollback is ''only'' for vandalism so make sure you're only using it for those purposes i.e. NOT content disagreements. ~ <font color="#FF0099">Amory</font><font color="#555555"><small> ''(] • ] • ])''</small></font> 14:32, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
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Hello. I read the reasons why I was not granted rollback rights. I just want to ask if you can take a second look. My edits are mostly for Television and Music related articles. I often assume good faith in most reverts I do and discuss them with the editors. I have also experienced a lot of vandalism of late to a large number of articles, the edit summary in question was one amongst so many edits. That came about after I continually provided reliable sources to prove a fictional characters name, but fans of the show thought otherwise, I continued reverting, but it made no difference, others intervened too to keep the article factual.. So the constant name changes continued and removing of sources, then I was tired of reverting so I edited and put 'EVA EVA...', oddly enough that was the end of it. I've never made a habit of it as I'm sure you noticed, in the past four years of my edit summaries. Every situation and all. Also I didn't ask for rollback rights on a whim, I read up about this a while back but I felt it was necessary that I try to get them, as I do spend a quite a bit of time watching many articles in the field of entertainment and of late there is so much vandalism happening to soap opera related articles, that we in the wikiprojects are spending so much time on trying to make them viable, full of factual information, from an out world perspective. With fans of these types of serials coming on, not all are tended to be malicious but plenty are having a good go of adding spoilers with no sources, adding strange quotes, calling characters names. There is one case that is concerning me and another editor that someone changed infoboxes for around 200 characters, which will inevitably need to be reverted as the infobox doesn't look like it's going to hold the community approval... this has already happened twice in one month (that being March), then there are nonconstructive edits from bots, one of which began linking certain articles to their ES language article, only it made a link error. I'm very keen to move foward in improving and completing tasks assigned in various wikiprojects, but a lot of my time is given on comparing revisions, then finding unconstructive material, which otherwise could just be one click away from correcting. Also I did not request this for some power trip as I've stated that I only really do have one area which covers masses of articles, which gets my editing time. Also if you are too busy, (As I know it can't be easy looking through all the requesters editing histories and juggling your own life) I can always talk with another admin, only by your say so though.] ] 21:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
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:Thanks for the follow-up, allow me to clarify. That edit summary wasn't the main issue, it was just something that stood out. The reason I declined your request was because I don't actually see a significant amount of vandalism reverts in your recent history. Most appear to be good-faith efforts by editors, and it's not obvious that those aren't just content disputes instead of plain, pure vandalism. You spoke of your edits as if you had made tons of ] reverts, when most of it is content stuff; rollback is not appropriate for those types of edits. Take as an example the above - you mention some new infobox that may or may not take hold. Rollback should definitely NOT be used in that situation. And besides, you still have to compare revisions for rollback to make sure it's vandalous - that part doesn't change. If you really want it, check out ], which approximates the tool, and maybe head over to ] and revert some vandals. ~ <font color="#FF0099">Amory</font><font color="#555555"><small> ''(] • ] • ])''</small></font> 12:40, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
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How is the Misplaced Pages policy on vandalism? You said "rollback is only for obvious, clear cases of vandalism". If a vandal changes one number, no summary, no reason, no reference... It could be a good faith edit, but it could be destroying the dataset as well. It could be the revenge & hate of a vandal trying to avoid the tag filters... So normal '''undo'''? --] (]) 05:11, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yup, pretty much. Try to figure out using the references on the page, or by reading the context - sometime it's clear from the editor's other edits - but yes, you've got the right idea. ~ <font color="#FF0099">Amory</font><font color="#555555"><small> ''(] • ] • ])''</small></font> 14:04, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Another question, ]. IP one, wrote "I like zebras", IP two, wrote "I <3 zebras", I compared both and choose rollback, but in the end only one of the edits was reverted. How does it a sysop? --] (]) 05:18, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:Different IPs count as different users. Rollback will rollback all the edits of one user. For that sort of thing you have to either a. rollback then manually go in and remove the other one or b. manually remove both. ~ <font color="#FF0099">Amory</font><font color="#555555"><small> ''(] • ] • ])''</small></font> 05:21, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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I apologize for the length, did not realize 500-word limit. ] (]) 04:45, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
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Just noticed a new possible sock of ] {who was blocked by you). Is it appropriate to draw your attention to a particular page in order for you to form an opinion? My only evidence is a number of edits to quite disparate articles common to both and a level of technical competence unusual in a new ed. Best. ] (]) 00:35, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, that'd be fine. I can definitely review it for you. I won't be able to respond in less than 14 or 15 hours, so if it's more urgent I'd take it elsewhere, like ]. ~ <font color="#FF0099">Amory</font><font color="#555555"><small> ''(] • ] • ])''</small></font> 05:25, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
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== Clerking of Arbcom cases ==

Hi Amory,

Are you keeping an eye on all the cases you are clerking? I thought only Arbitrators are allowed to edit the proposed decision page. --] (]) 19:50, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:Mmm, thanks for the notice. I check everything since the last time I checked, although today I seem to have forgotten what time I went to bed last night. ~ <font color="#FF0099">Amory</font><font color="#555555"><small> ''(] • ] • ])''</small></font> 19:59, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::Well where are we supposed to post such things? Can you please post what was removed in the right spot for me. Cheers, --] <sup>]</sup> 20:18, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:::The correct page is the workshop page, where you previously requested a motion; I've moved your proposals there.. ~ <font color="#FF0099">Amory</font><font color="#555555"><small> ''(] • ] • ])''</small></font> 20:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Ah ok, thanks, when I was a party to ], there wasn't a workshop phase, so of course my initiation to ARB was an unusual one. Thanks for moving it to correct spot. --] <sup>]</sup> 20:35, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Arbcom case + topic bans ==

Hello Amory, I see from this edit that you were discussing participation in the current Biophys/Russavia case with {{user|Martintg}}, encouraging him to post something to the case pages. Question: in doing so, were you aware that Martintg is under two relevant topic ban restrictions from the EEML case? Russavia just raised that issue on my talk page. Apparently Martintg is topic-banned from "all Eastern European related articles" including "all process discussions" relating to them, and additionally restricted from commenting on Russavia anywhere except in "legitimate and necessary dispute resolution". My own reading is that this would exclude him from commenting on this case, except if it were to touch on incidents directly related to him. Thoughts? ] ] 06:02, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
:?? Shell has already replied to my proposals and comments on the ArbCom case page. I don't know why Fut.Perf has not asked the Committee directly, so I have done so . --] (]) 08:21, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

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