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== Areas Included in Hollywood == == Requested move 26 March 2022 ==
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:''The following is a closed discussion of a ]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a ] after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. ''
Population, area size, population density, and other stats deffer greatly depending on which areas are included in Hollywood. Can someone find the official boundaries as described by the CA Assembly Bill 588, mentioned in the intro. --] (]) 00:35, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

::The City of Los Angeles does indeed determine the boundaries for its communities/neighborhoods/districts. This article (Hollywood) is mistaken when it states this is not typically done. Visit the City of Los Angeles' web site -Planning Department, General Plan Update - for boundary information. ] (]) 03:58, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

:::From what I could gather at this , the boundaries stated are just the boundaries used by the planning dept. for their general plan and don't necessarily represent the boundaries laid out by the state in AB588. Am I looking at this wrong, or were you looking at a different link? Thanks!--] (]) 06:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

::::AB 588 "Defines the community of Hollywood, for purposes of this bill, as the City of Los Angeles' Hollywood Community Plan Area established in 1974, and lists the area's 2000 United States Census tract numbers. Also defines the community of Hollywood by a lengthy geographical description based on freeways, roads, city boundaries, and the Los Angeles River." It sounds complicated. Looking at the description in this version, it ''is'' complicated. But I can't find a map anywhere. &nbsp; <b>]&nbsp; ]&nbsp; </b> 07:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


The result of the move request was: '''Not moved'''. The previous discussion ended a week ago. If you wish to challenge it, ] is the venue. {{RMpmc}} ] 01:18, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
:::::Thanks to everyone for the help. As of now, I'm going to leave the population and area figures as they are, until I can get some better info that I can understand. Hopefully once the 2010 census is done, we'll get some concrete up to date info. If anyone wants to take the time and map the district block-by-block based on the descriptions feel free (and good luck!) --] (]) 07:19, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
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::::::The bill includes the specific census tract numbers, so if you're interested in tallying up the figures it'd be quite easy and precise, except for one partial tract. Here are the tracts:
:::::::188200, 189100, 189200, 189300, 189400, 189500, 189600, 189701, 189702, 189800, 189901, 189902, 190100, 190200, 190301, 190400, 190510, 190520, 190700, 190800, 190901, 190902, 191000, 191110, 191120, 191201, 191203, 191204, 191300, 191410, 191420, 191500, 191610, 191620, 191710, 191720, 191810, 191820, 191900, 192000, 192610 (partial), 194100, 194200, 194300, 194400, 195200, 195300.
::::::I'm not sure what the best thing would be to do with the partial tract. But maybe calling one of the city council offices would help? There must be a map buried somewhere on the city website. Or they may already have the information you're looking for. That was the purpose of the bill, anyway. &nbsp; <b>]&nbsp; ]&nbsp; </b> 07:51, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


== Districts vs. Neighborhoods ==
I have noticed that many articles describe neighborhoods in Los Angeles as districts. To my knowledge the City of Los Angeles refers to regions of the city as neighborhoods and does not mention the word "districts" in any description. For now, I'm going to change the intro and infobox to reflect this, based off the info from LAcity.org and the Los Angeles Neighborhood Councils. If anyone can show me something official that mentions districts (and which neighborhoods are districts, if any), feel free to change it back.--] (]) 07:15, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


⚫ * ] → {{no redirect|Hollywood}}
==Move discussion in progress==
* ] → {{no redirect|Hollywood (disambiguation)}}
There is a move discussion in progress on ] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:Angelino Heights, Los Angeles, California crosspost --> ] <sup>] ]</sup> 02:10, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
– Previous discussion was a major change made with insufficient notice or discussion. The name Hollywood is a shorthand reference for the Los Angeles neighborhood and for the U.S. film industry headquartered there. The change made earlier should be reversed. --]&nbsp;<sup>(])</sup> <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added 19:59, 26 March 2022 (UTC)</small>
*'''Oppose''' there was quite clear consensus for the RM which was open for over 11 days to move given as noted there are over 100 other uses. ''']''' (]) 20:08, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
*'''Support second move only''' - ] should redirect to ''']''' ] ] 20:38, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' —&nbsp;there was a pretty clear consensus for this in the above Requested Move discussion. <small>] (])</small> 21:18, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per previous consensus. ] (]) 23:56, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. Previous move was fine. --] (]) 00:07, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
* '''Request Procedural Close''' There's no rationale presented for a move (a move review would be at MRV, but don't bother with that either); this can be closed. ] (powera, ], ]) 02:22, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
*:There would likely be no grounds for a move review and since this doesn't bring up much more than already mentioned I indeed think we can just speedy close this but I won't do that as I'm involved and 1 editor has suggested Cinema of the United States should be primary but this now looks like SNOW. ''']''' (]) 21:37, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' and SNOW close. OP's reasoning is flawed - adequate notice was given and participation was ample to gain a consensus. In fact, OP's 2nd sentence rightly points out that "Hollywood" has at least two major meanings, which justifies having the disambiguation page at primary. -- ] ] 04:31, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
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== First studio ==
{{polltop}} moved all per request and moved ] to ]. As pointed out below, Hollywood already redirects to this page and needs no further qualification. --] (]) 20:44, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I removed some sources that were not real sources and corrected the text. I have something similar at ]. I don't know enough about the subject to know: Was ] really the first studio here? That article itself says it was ''not''. I'm also going to mention this on Talk:Hollywood so everyone will see it. ] (]) 1 October 2022 (UTC)


== Hollywood Stars of the Pacific Coast League ==
] → ] — Per ], it was decided that the California should be dropped from LA Neighborhoods, because the title of the LA article is ], there is no other Los Angeles with neighborhood articles, and just because it was shorter (]). '''This is only about dropping the California. Don't turn it into dropping the Los Angeles as well!'''. Four other neighborhoods which had been accidentally left out of the discussion earlier are also included. ] <sup>] ]</sup> 00:31, 5 May 2010 (UTC)


Really? Nothing about the Hollywood Stars of the PCL baseball league? Why not? ] (]) 05:22, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
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* ] → ]
⚫ * ] → ]


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*For Hollywood, I suspect all qualifiers (both Los Angeles and California) could be dropped without issue. If a qualifier is deemed necessary for Hollywood, California not Los Angeles should be employed. For the others, I support without issue.--] (]) 17:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
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::Why California and not Los Angeles? Hollywood is not a seperate city. ] <sup>] ]</sup> 21:03, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Common name. As I said before, I don't believe it requires one but when left with no option reliable sources seem to view it as the most preferable option (google book search; 12,100 hits for "Hollywood, Los Angeles" -wiki and 116,000 hits for "Hollywood, California" -wiki).--] (]) 02:57, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
*Agree with Labattblueboy. ] is world famous and clear ]; the title already redirects here anyway. Same for ]. No problem moving the other two. ] (]) 18:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)


<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by ] (]) 14:57, 14 February 2023 (UTC)</span>
*I disagree with "Hollywood" or with "Hollywood, California". The latter because it's not an independent city, and the former because this isn't necessarily the primary usage. When people write "Hollywood" they are frequently referring to the mainstream American film industry. I think it's best to keep that name a disambiguation page. &nbsp; <b>]&nbsp; ]&nbsp; </b> 21:08, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::], is not a dab. page and, to my knowledge, has never been so. It was the article title until 2008, when the current title was adopted.--] (]) 02:57, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
*PS: I agree with "Hollywood, Los Angeles" instead of the current name in order to bring it into conformity with the other neighborhood articles. &nbsp; <b>]&nbsp; ]&nbsp; </b> 21:21, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
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Requested move 26 March 2022

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. The previous discussion ended a week ago. If you wish to challenge it, WP:MR is the venue. (closed by non-admin page mover) Calidum 01:18, 28 March 2022 (UTC)


– Previous discussion was a major change made with insufficient notice or discussion. The name Hollywood is a shorthand reference for the Los Angeles neighborhood and for the U.S. film industry headquartered there. The change made earlier should be reversed. --evrik  — Preceding undated comment added 19:59, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

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First studio

I have removed some sources that were not real sources and corrected the text. I have done something similar at Hollywood. I don't know enough about the subject to know: Was Nestor Film Company really the first studio here? That article itself says it was not. I'm also going to mention this on Talk:Hollywood so everyone will see it. Invasive Spices (talk) 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Hollywood Stars of the Pacific Coast League

Really? Nothing about the Hollywood Stars of the PCL baseball league? Why not? 2601:283:8301:820:0:0:0:9BBB (talk) 05:22, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

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