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== Removal of Template:Mathematicians by century == |
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Hi Mayumashu. I was wondering why you removed {{tl|Mathematicians by century}} from ] () and ] () (and maybe some others?). Thanks. ] (]) 02:50, 20 May 2010 (UTC) |
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::I couldn t see how to access the template to edit it. I ve made my edit to it now, changing 'scientist' to 'scholar' - I readd the template to the pages I deleted it from now. ] (]) 02:18, 21 May 2010 (UTC) |
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== Speedy renaming nominations with objections == |
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Just a courtesy reminder: three of your speedy nominations from April have objections and, therefore, can't be handled via the speedy process. The three are: ], ] and ]. I don't know if you changed your mind about the renames or if you still think they should be renamed, so... Cheers, -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 18:55, 22 May 2010 (UTC) |
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::Okay, thanks for the update ] (]) 02:03, 23 May 2010 (UTC) |
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== AN/I re Roseleena Blair == |
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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you. |
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:Hi Mayumashu, I assume you'll see this at the ANI thread above, or the article, but to make sure: ]. --] (]) 21:17, 24 May 2010 (UTC) |
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::Hi Floquenbeam. I did, thanks. I ll be careful next time with using names of living people in article names that put image of person in negative light. Take care, ] (]) 21:43, 24 May 2010 (UTC) |
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== How did Hungarian-Austrian Jews land up descending from "Hungarians" == |
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Hi Mayumashu: I was directed to you by this discussion at ]. Please reverse this "] to ] C2C..." change you made . The reasons are that I am looking at this page ] and it is downright wrong. It ''was'' previously named ] (meaning Jews from post World War ONE Hungary that had at one time been closer to ]) which is accurate, meaning a Jew with a very specific ''Jewish'' ''Hungarian''-Austrian heritage, while the new name is ''not'' accurate because it implies that the main heritage is primarily "Austrian" (which they are mostly not) but of "Hungarian descent" meaning it could be not-Jewish, which is ridiculous for this category. They are both Hungarian ''and'' Austrian but not of either descent. "Hungarian" and "Austrian" should not have been split in this case. It gets confusing I know, but the category was fine as it was. All I can see are the references , but I never saw any notification for this discussion at the key ] or at least at ] where it should have been posted for Judaic editors to be notified. I hope this will NOT be a trend now to come up with changes that will screw up ]; ]. Please revert it back or I will file an appropriate ], which should not even be necessary. Thanks, ] (]) 02:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC) |
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::] are people of Hungarian ethnic ''or national'' descent - the parent category is ]. Hyphenated names have been replaced with those using 'by decent' for clarity and I cannot see how the original name for this category was better, as listed on this page are, indeed, Austrian Jews of Hungarian 'national (and/or ethnic) descent'. The term 'national descent' is a bit contrived, but it so would be any terminology for those whose parents or 'foreparents' came from a country but did not have that country ethnicity (as is the case here). The trouble with hyphenated names for categories of this sort is that the meaning of such names can easily be seen to mean a few different things - is the intention of 'Hungarian-Austrian Jew' a dual citizen of the two countries who is Jewish, a citizen of Hungary who is Jewish with Austrian origins, or a citizen (or permanent resident) of Austria who is Jewish with Hungarian origins? I do think that the category should be renamed to ] as ] was reverted to ], but I do/would not support a revert of this page, as (well as) I understand its purpose. ] (]) 02:44, 28 May 2010 (UTC) |
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===Same for Category:American Jews of Czech descent=== |
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] should be ] because they are of Jewish descent not of Czech-Jewish (or Jewish-Czech) descent and not of ''only'' Czech descent. This was not a well-thought out move and it's a mistake that needs to be corrected. ] (]) 02:31, 28 May 2010 (UTC) |
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===This is all a mess now, who did it?=== |
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] has caused havoc and needs to be reversed. All the categories that state "...of ____ descent" and then a country is put at the end of each one creates the mistaken conception that those Jews were descended from non-Jewish nationalities that is totally false. I see that a bigger discussion will have to be opened about this, this type of move needed broader discussion and input from many more experienced Judaic editors who have a better handle on this subject matter. Please stop making your "speedy" nominations and changes in categories of Jews while this horrendous mess is sorted out! ] (]) 02:37, 28 May 2010 (UTC) |
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::I don t think any 'hyphenated Jews' categories remain - they were all converted over to 'by (national) descent'. But if any do remain, I won t list them for speedy rename, as you ask. ] (]) 02:44, 28 May 2010 (UTC) |
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==Deletion review for American Jews/Jewish people by fooian descent== |
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An editor has asked for a ] see ]. Because you ''evidently'' closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. <!-- This originally was from the template {{subst:DRVNote|PAGE_NAME}} ~~~~ --> ] (]) 06:54, 28 May 2010 (UTC) |
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