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{{The Exceptional Newcomer Award| i ] give you this award for all the great work you've put into many judaism, jewish and israel relates articles, all the while steering clear of controversy! ..thnx Gila!}} {{The Exceptional Newcomer Award| i ] give you this award for all the great work you've put into many judaism, jewish and israel relates articles, all the while steering clear of controversy! ..thnx Gila!}}
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Thank you so much for the edits in ]. I thought it would take years to make it a decent article, and you made it in a few minutes. Definitely this is a case where being ] is the one and only solution ! --] (]) 19:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
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Thaks for I have this article on my watchlist and it seems to be a target for vandalism etc., so it's nice to see your good and useful contribution. Keep up the good work! ] (]) 17:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

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Hi, nice editing and picture-adding on this article. What are your thoughts on breaking off the cemetery into a separate article, such as ], which would help us expand on the history of burials here? Thanks, ] (]) 08:03, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::Sounds like a good idea. The lists on this page are really getting out of hand...I wouldn't write "Jewish cemetery" in parentheses, though. I think I would call the article "Mount of Olives Cemetery" and link it to this one.--] (]) 09:00, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

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::This is to confirm that I have received the four emails you sent to me. The reason for the delay is because, upon a preliminary examination of the emails, it was apparent that they stated no claims upon which an unblock may be granted, and were consequently of very low priority. Your claim that the edits do not violate the topic ban was rejected when I blocked you, and I see no reason to reconsider that determination. You have been warned multiple times that the topic ban will be construed broadly; you have been blocked multiple times for similar edits, but you have still persisted. To the extent you challenge the severity of the sanctions, it was apparent that less severe sanctions, such as the most recent one-month block, have failed to alleviate the problem. Insofar as allegations of misconduct by other editors are concerned, they are irrelevant to your actions, which are the only matter I am concerned with. Similarly, your previous good work supplies no reason to violate your topic ban. ] (]) 23:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

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== Harel Skaat ==
Hello, I have been working on the article for Harel Skaat and if you get a chance could you please check over it and give me some feedback on it? Thanks.
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''Years'' ago? See the talkpage; try ''3-6 months'' ago (for the most recent related discussion); ] was less than a year ago. Further, while I appreciate the virtue of ]ness, content choices that are the results of long prior discussions in which much thought was expended and which are clearly marked as such are not the best places to apply boldness; discussion is warranted. And aside from yourself, I am unable to recall (although admittedly the archives are large) anyone else voicing concerns that the image is "condescending" to those depicted therein (not that other concerns weren't brought up); you are almost certainly the first to suggest that some sort of comparison between the couple and ''A. afarensis'' is ''intended'' by the article. (You are reading in and jumping to the conclusion of bias where there isn't any.) --] ] 08:00, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
'''Gilabrand''',<br />Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable ], and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. See ].
::Considering that the same photo appears in "primates" I doubt that any of this is the figment of my imagination.--] (]) 08:05, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
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Hello, Gilabrand. I reverted one of your edits because of what I stated This is being discussed on the talk page. While I agreed to leave the biological definition first, I also feel that it is better to acknowledge that we are initially speaking of the biological definition. Some people are taking offense to the lead defining a child simply as someone who has not hit puberty. Making clear that we are speaking of the biological definition first, then the legal definition, is better I feel.

And thank you for your addition of how a child came to be seen as so different from an adult. I tweaked this section by moving it higher, and as a subsection of the section on definitions of a child. ] (]) 18:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


:I hope that you will take a look at the wikibias website.] (]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 15:07, 5 October 2010 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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Can you take a look at edits made by ]/] - I only came accross him because he added spurious conent to another article. I have previously reverted his edits but don't want to get into an edit war about a subject I know nothing about, but (for example) the paragraph "In the 12th century, Safed was given away to the crusader by الصالح إسماعيل صاحب دمشق، the king of demuscus as a gift to show the crusaders his loyality to them, a fortified city in the crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem known as Saphet." doesn't make sense, apart from having spelling errors and Arabic text. Your help and advice would be appreciated. ] (]) 10:14, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hi Gilabrand, I saw that you uploaded a picture of a hapoel katamon jerusalem scarf in the englisch wikipedia, could you pleas upload it as well on commons, 'cause i'd like to include it into the german version of the article. greetings --] (]) 21:47, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
::I don't know how to do it, but feel free to ask someone else for help.--] (]) 13:30, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:::ok, I will have a look how to upload it there, perhaps i can do it myself. cheers --] (]) 23:18, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

== ] article ==

Please do '''not''' remove AfD notices. You need to let the discussion run for seven days, where a consensus will be reached. You can comment on the discussion ]. ] (]) 18:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Yael Arad ==

I am not reverting your edits "robotically", nor am I vandalising the article. I am merely ensuring that Misplaced Pages doesn't break the law. Removing copyrighted material is a specific exemption from ], whereas inserting it is a blockable offence. If you carry on inserting this material into the article you are going to end up blocked. '''''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>''''' 13:20, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::Which material are you referring to? I have rewritten most of the article. There is nothing here that is remotely close to "breaking the law." Your threats are not appreciated. You are deleting solidly referenced texts based on numerous sources that in no way constitute plagiarism, are not contested by anyone and do not constitute libel.--] (]) 13:29, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:::See my reply on the article's talk page. There are legal issues here; the copyright holder could (in theory) sue Misplaced Pages for hosting the material, and that is why Misplaced Pages policy is so clear about removing copyrighted material. There are no issues with libel, factual accuracy or referencing here and I don't know why you are bringing them up. '''''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>''''' 13:45, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

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Hello.
You are aware that when reverting an edit that is not vandalism you should give a reason in the edit summary, correct? If you did not know that, this should serve to inform you of that. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 06:04, 26 September 2010 (UTC)</font></small>
::I restored the previous version because you deleted sourced information. I thought that was obvious, but if it wasn't then please forgive me. It was an oversight. --] (]) 06:45, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
:::And you . And this time you violated ] that were created following an ] and also did not say one word on the talk page. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 14:36, 28 September 2010 (UTC)</font></small>
:Did what again? Your POV (West Bank) is still there. Shomron is a perfectly fine term and has it's own Misplaced Pages article. Who says it can't be used??-] (]) 14:48, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
::You again reverted an edit without saying one word in the edit summary or the talk page. And who says? Misplaced Pages says: ''The terms "Samaria" or "Judea" cannot be used without qualification in the NPOV neutral voice; for example, it cannot be asserted without qualification that a place is "in Samaria".'' If you bothered to read the links in my edit summary or the talk page comment I made you would have known that. Those naming conventions were created after a number of users were indefinitely banned by the Arbitration Committee. Those naming conventions have a consensus and were created under the supervision of the Arbitration Committee. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 14:50, 28 September 2010 (UTC)</font></small>
::As I said, West Bank still appears. That "qualifies" the term. So I don't know what you are so upset about. If your feelings are hurt, again I apologize.--] (]) 14:53, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
:::I know what you said, repeating it does not change the fact that you are clearly missing the point. The naming conventions stipulate exactly when you can say "Samaria". It explicitly says that the use that you reinserted is not acceptable. You wrote that a place is "in Shomron". I am sorry too, but only because I may have to ask that your topic-ban to be reinstated for tendentious editing. These naming conventions reflect a consensus and refusing to abide by them is not acceptable. We should not have to deal with this same nonsense every time some nationalist user feels like starting the fight again. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 14:57, 28 September 2010 (UTC)</font></small>
:::The qualification that you think is met is not a "qualification". "West Bank" is not qualifying "Shomron". The rest the naming conventions stipulate when you can use the terms:
:::*<i>Any uses of the terms must be in one of the situations described below:
:::** 6A) The terms are used inside verbatim quotations from sources, or
:::** 6B) When discussing physical geography using the terminology that appears in international expert journals, for example as part of a proper name ("the Judea Group aquifer"), or as an adjective qualifying a term ("The Samarian hills"), or
:::** 6C) The term is being mentioned rather than used, as in "Samaria is a term used for ...", or
:::** 6D) The term is being used within the article about itself, where its meaning and usage has already been explained to the reader; although additional qualifications may be needed for some uses even there.</i>
:::The use you reinserted clearly violates those naming conventions. I really do not want to have to go through any administrative channels dealing with this. I know you may not believe this, but I actually dont dislike you. But if you refuse to abide by consensus and make me have to go through the same arguments over and over then I will. Bye, <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 15:08, 28 September 2010 (UTC)</font></small>
:So revert it, Nableezy. If that's how you get your kicks, be my guest. To me it seems that my edit is perfectly fine, but if you disagree, tfadal. --] (]) 15:17, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
::I should not have to, and I do not want to as I dont want to give further ammunition to those friends of yours wishing to see me banned. If I provide clear evidence that your edit is against established guidelines you should revert it. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 15:21, 28 September 2010 (UTC)</font></small>
::::: I am not aware of any friends of mine wishing you anything.--] (]) 15:25, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::All right, let's call them friends of mine and recognize the point stands. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 15:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC)</font></small>
==Nahal Kziv==
Although I tend to agree that "Kziv stream" sounds a little lame, I was trying to keep it uniform with a bunch of other "nehalim" that can be seen in . I once changed the name of the "taninim stream" and had it changed back for the same reason. So I would say that you should either adhere to the convention, or go ahead and change all the names. --] (]) 12:05, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
::::I understand what you're saying, but all the sources quoted in the article use "Nahal Kziv." In fact, "stream" is not necessarily the correct translation. Not all nehalim are streams. Many are dry riverbeds, or were in the past, and the riverbed is no longer visible. In some cases, they are rivers. There are many articles that have not been switched over, among them Nahal Sorek, Nahal Snir, Nahal Iron and Nahal Tut. I agree that consistency is good, but think that in this case, the Hebrew term ought be left untranslated, with a translation in parentheses in the lead.--] (]) 12:23, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


In the Wikidata page of Harashim (]), can you replace the photo ] with the photo that actually shows the village ]?
:Check out ]. <br>In any case, we need an English term. Or we can just go and change mts. Arbel and Meron to "har".... --] (]) 14:12, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


I could not do it, because of technical problems.
::Some Hebrew terms cannot be properly translated and should remain as is. "Wadi" and "tel" are good examples. Looking at the Misplaced Pages article for stream just goes to show how imprecise the word is, and the extent to which it is not a translation equivalent for "nahal." Regarding "har" - I am not saying it shouldn't be "mount XXX," but the truth of the matter is that most mountains in Israel are not mountains at all, but hills. So across-the-board translations don't really work here. On top of that, Misplaced Pages is based on published sources, and most of the English sources use the term "nahal" as part of the name - which doesn't mean that it cannot be described as a stream/river/brook/dry riverbed in the article iself. -] (]) 14:22, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


Yours sincerely, ] (]) 17:09, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
:::I think stream is fine, if anything the stream article should be expanded with the Israeli info as well here ]. There are many uses of Hebrew words turned into colloquialisms thrown around in our everyday vocabulary that I think should not used. For instance, I had supported the use of 'yishuv' in many instances, but quickly understood that we should avoid it. At this time I would not support the use of nahal in the article title. I would hope that the community could agree on a convention or point us to where this might have already been discussed. --] (]) 19:35, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
::I tried, but got a message that the change couldn't be published because of some formatting issue. Maybe ask someone who has more technical expertise.--] (]) 07:01, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
:::Thank you for the recommendation. ] (]) 07:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


== Mashmigey Herut ==
:I disagree about "Yishuv" (with a capital "Y") when used in the context of the pre-state Jewish community in Palestine, which is the name for it in all academic literature. In the case of "nahal," I think it should be retained when it is part of a place name. Think about "mitzpe," in the context of the Galilee mitzpim. The name of Gilad Shalit's village is ]. Are you saying Misplaced Pages should rename it Hila Lookout?--] (]) 06:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


Hi!
:I agree with you on the Yishuv thing, that is what I was referring to and it was agreed to no use it in place of the word community in post48 populated places as well as Mitzpe X and Maale Y. But a water is not the same. --] (]) 14:31, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


The page ] has been proposed for deletion. I see that you recently put work into the article, so perhaps you may want to chime in on the deletion discussion page: ]
::I agree with Shuki that Stream should be used, and in general we should be using English-language terms. Two analogies provided by Gilabrand are incorrect; Mitzpe X should not be translated because it's part of the name of a locality, while Nahal is not (see for example how encyclopedias such as the Hebrew Encyclopedia and Ariel Encyclopedia list articles about these things). The comparison to Wadi is also incorrect because Wadi is an English word that appears in English dictionaries. Nahal is not (although dictionary.com describes it as "a military youth organization" or "an agricultural settlement, esp in a border area, set up or manned by Nahal members"). Not to mention, the term Wadi has a Misplaced Pages article while Nahal has one about the "military youth organization".
::In short, there is absolutely no reason here to use the Hebrew term. Keep in mind that this is the English-language Misplaced Pages, and should be first and foremost accessible to English-speakers (most of whom come from countries other than Israel and do not know what Nahal is).
::Finally, if no consensus is achieved here, we must take this discussion to a broader forum because discussions that affect dozens of articles should not take place on user talk. —] <sup>(])</sup> 16:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Can you please posta link to the said conventions?--] (]) 07:19, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Not sure if you're asking me, but much of my argument was based on ] and ]. —] <sup>(])</sup> 20:52, 7 October 2010 (UTC)


thanks!] (]) 05:13, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
==Editing advice==
Please carefully review the ] page, which outlines the consensus on this subject. Changing articles without discussion against this consensus is disruptive, and could result in sanctions being applied against you. ] (]) 17:44, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


== Why did you delete the Note section at ] ==
==Tel Aviv==


You broke the page when you did that. It contained a 10-20 year old standard for Notes before the modern {{efn}}. Misplaced Pages contain a lot of old style markup code that need to be left alone. ] (]) 21:56, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
You have made a fantastic tel aviv page look like crap with old photos, all lying to the right!
I've uploaded many updated shots and edited the information in a very accurate way and you've destroyed it!
You're not a Misplaced Pages contributor, but a destroyer!
::A fantastic page??? It was downgraded from featured article status because it has slowly been turned into a badly written piece of hype stuffed to the gills with substandard photos. --] (]) 21:23, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:Deanb, please stop your personal attacks against other editors. Gilabrand's edits were justified and it is your edits that were not. —] <sup>(])</sup> 21:10, 7 October 2010 (UTC)


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Please see: ]. ] <sup>(])</sup> 21:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC) Given the problems going on at {{la|Jay Ruderman}}, edit summaries are a necessity for editors to work together to resolve the situation. Please be more careful. - ] (]) 17:09, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
:He's right, it's a moshava. See he.wiki, among others. ] (]) 21:49, 7 October 2010 (UTC)


== Thank you == == October 2023 ==


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for the interesting etymological article you linked to in ]. I have learnt something, for which I am grateful. <span style="font-family: Papyrus">] (])</span> 11:20, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


These edits (] ] ]), all of which are from this month, are bright-line violations of your topic ban from the Arab–Israeli conflict and Palestine. Furthermore, these other recent edits (] ] ] ] ] ]), while individually minor violations, together constitute a clear pattern of ignoring the boundaries of your topic ban. This evidence, combined with the 2 previous blocks for violating this topic ban and 12 earlier blocks, mostly for disruption in this topic area, convinces me that no temporary block will be adequate to prevent further disruption. Note that, per {{slink|Misplaced Pages:Contentious_topics#Duration_of_restrictions}}, after 1 year this becomes appealable under standard unblock procedures. ] (] • she/her) 20:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
==]==
Hi, I noticed you made some adjustments to the template. A while back, a different user started adding streets, making lots of red links. I decided to try to write articles about some of them, and found it very rough going (it's far easier to find information about neighborhoods than streets). I'm just wondering if all these streets really qualify as "major" streets in West Jerusalem. Is Burla really a "major" street? I've never heard of it. Kol tuv, ] (]) 15:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, after I started messing with it, I'm not sure such a template is a good idea. There are dozens of main streets in Jerusalem these days, and many of those currently mentioned link to the wrong articles. Also I think writing full articles about some of these streets will be pretty much impossible. Maybe we should delete it altogether...FYI, Burla is a major street running from the Knesset to the Israel Museum, the Science Museum, the Rabin Guesthouse and the Hebrew University. --] (]) 15:48, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::OK, thanks. If you decide to delete the template, I support you. ] (]) 23:26, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


::What??? There must be some mistake here. I have been editing for years and years, and made a very conscious effort to edit productively on a wide variety of subjects, many of them connected to Israel, but not touching on issues related to the conflict. I am pretty much in shock. The diffs you are citing are, what can I say? Lame is not the word...Please take a closer look at my contributions over the years - and undo this block. Thanks.--] (]) 01:12, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
== Thank you ==
:I very highly recommend that this be scaled back considerably if not entirely. Honestly, Gila should have just appealed this sanction years ago, and absent these latest violations probably would have been successful doing so. Remind her that she is still topic banned if you like, but this is overkill. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 01:40, 23 October 2023 (UTC)</small>
::I looked at all the edits that were given above as a reason for a ban, and I did not see one that was controversial in the least. These were all very small routine edits, it looks to me. I think the Admin is following guidelines, but this looks like definite overkill. The editor can be reminded and warned when and if they cross the line, but to ban such a veteran contributor for the edits above seems to me to unwarranted. I would also suggest that it be scaled back. Thank you, ] ] 14:23, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
:::@] how many warnings would you suggest is an appropriate number? Gila has been blocked at least eight times previously for violations of restrictions and the purpose of the topic ban is to keep Gila away from a topic area where she cannot or will not edit in line with policy. I'll grant you the line might not always be obvious but there are 6.7 million articles in this encyclopaedia so it's not as if it's inevitable that somebody would fall afoul of it. ] &#124; ] 20:09, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
::::Since her unblock in 2015 till this block she has been blocked twice in the 8 years since. I submit to you even if those blocks are totally merited, even if Gilabrand should never touch an ARBPIA topic again, that the lets say 50 edits that she should not have made in those 8 years stacked up against the 20,164 edits she has made in that time do not merit an indefinite block. Remind her of the topic ban, even with another month long block if you want, but you are doing Misplaced Pages a disservice by blocking her indefinitely. And I say this as somebody who I am certain Gila does not like in the slightest. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 21:25, 23 October 2023 (UTC)</small>
:::::I'm familiar with the history. Look at who unblocked Gila in 2015 and indeed who imposed the topic ban in the first place. The obvious counter argument, and what it appears led Leeky to make the block indefinite, is that Gila has sat out two previous three-month blocks for topic ban violations, so what would another definite-duration block achieve? An indef can't be sat out and would require something affirmative from Gila for it to be lifted. ] &#124; ] 21:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, I know. But Harry, even if she sits it out, you get an average of 3 years and 2500 edits of great work in between. My guy, it isnt that serious. This is slap on the wrist and ask her to be more mindful again and let her work on the things she does for free for this place. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 22:07, 23 October 2023 (UTC)</small>
:::::::I agree with Nableezy, of course, and I thank him for trying to get the record straight here. I would suggest that warnings or even time-limited bans should be given here if she makes any edits that are controversial in the topic, even slightly so. But, as I said, I don't see anything that rises to that level in all the edits you listed above. I am asking Gila personally to be always aware of the ban, and to try and comply with it from now on, whenever she makes an edit. If she agrees to try and comply with this request here, I'd suggest we try again, starting with warnings, self-reversions, and even time-limited bans, if she doesn't comply with her plea to do so. Thank you again for being open to even discuss this sensitive matter here, and for being open to at least listening to our suggestions. Thank you, ] ] 00:07, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
: Back when Gilabrand had full ARBPIA rights, working with her was a chore due to her strong bias and disruptive style. So I believe her topic ban is justified and I would oppose any appeal with stronger language than I allow myself on this talk page. When she edits on innocuous matters, on the other hand, her work is valuable. The problem is how to get the best without also getting the worst, and I have no suggestions except to enforce the ban. An indef is harsher than necessary, but why would a mere warning achieve what actual blocks failed to achieve in the past? ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 07:18, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
: I'd also like to opine that Gilbrand's description of Theleakycauldon's diffs as "lame is not the word", when in fact that they are completely blatant and obvious, indicates that she really doesn't get it. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 07:39, 24 October 2023 (UTC)


==CCI Notice==
Thank you for . I was going to do something similar last night, but was too tired when I got home, and had to go to bed. --] (]) 06:28, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


Hello, Gilabrand. This message is being sent to inform you that a '''request for a contributor copyright investigation''' has been filed at ] concerning your contributions to Misplaced Pages in relation to ]. The listing can be found ]. Thank you. <!--Template:CCI-notice--> ] <sub> '']''</sub> 23:34, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for reassessing ]. :) --] (]) 03:23, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
==Unblock request==
:Also, do you have any recommendations for how to improve it further?
{{unblock reviewed|decline=There is that the block is appropriate, as such your appeal is declined. ] (]) 17:21, 10 November 2023 (UTC)|1=I am reaching out to kindly request a review of the recent suspension placed on my account, after spending the last 18 years giving of my time and energy to this project. I have over 72,000 edits to my credit. I have been so taken aback by this unexpected action (no advance notice, no edit-warring, no dispute with anyone), I am almost at a loss for words (which is rare for me). I assure you that my contributions were made in complete good faith, including the ones that some interpret as violating a topic ban that I have been careful to adhere to for the last 8 years (although there may have been slip-ups here and there, and as Nableezy has rightly commented, I ought to have appealed years ago). Allow me to say that on the few occasions that ban violations were brought to my attention, I was quick to revert as requested. An example: ].


I am keen on maintaining the integrity and the accuracy of the content on Misplaced Pages, which has been the driving force behind my long-term commitment, and whatever complaints certain editors have had against me in the olden days, I believe there has been no repetition of any of that for decades. Many years have gone by during which I have a proven track record of working productively. I have added sourced content to thousands of entries, copyedited the English, written new articles and added images where there were none. Since my edits often involve topics related to Israel and Israeli people, I occasionally encounter gray areas requiring judgment calls - particularly in articles that are not clearly marked as falling under ARBPIA constraints but may contain sentences related to the conflict. If my appeal is accepted, I intend to avoid these gray areas with greater care.
==Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs==
I see that you have resolved the ongoing, long term conflict of interest issue by simply removing the tag. Brilliant. Let that be a lesson to the JCPA editors. I'm not going to pretend to care. More seriously, I think the best way to solve the issue in the long term is to simply make the article better so any help with that is appreciated. Unattributed propaganda like "...in the wake of the NGO-led campaign to demonize Israel." is not appreciated at all however. Anyway, baby steps. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - ''']'''</small> 11:24, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
::I removed the tags because all the material taken from the center's website or added by persons that appear to be from the center has been removed. The sentence you quote is solidly sourced, even you consider it propaganda. May I remind you that your personal views are irrelevant. I have removed the COI and added historical data from external sources. The article certainly needs expansion, but I think it is much improved. --] (]) 12:18, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Fair enough on the tags. To clarify, my view was that you using Misplaced Pages's neutral narrative voice to speak Gold's non-neutral unattributed words on his behalf was propaganda rather than that Gold's words were propaganda. Basically I'm calling you a propagandist but I assume it was unintentional on your part. I'll try to add something about their various programs, ICA etc when I get a chance but if you stumble across some secondary sources it would be quite handy. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - ''']'''</small> 14:30, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


I am open to engaging in dialogue to address any concerns you may have and do what is needed to rectify the situation. I hope someone will realize that I may be old but I still have something to offer. Somehow, I don’t feel ready to be put out on the ice floe. I urge you to reconsider this block, to weigh the positive against the negative, and allow me to continue serving the Misplaced Pages community.
== Ghajar ==
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I've formatted your request and placed it at the bottom, for proper discussion flow. ] (]) 18:33, 31 October 2023 (UTC)


As this request is for an arbitration enforcement block, is this the statement that you want placed on the appropriate noticeboard? ] (]) 18:35, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
Are you aware that there is an ongoing discussion about the topic you reverted on? And I have already told you that Misplaced Pages policy says that if you revert an edit that is not vandalism you are required to give a reason in the edit summary. You have inserted a map that says a place nowhere near Israel is in Israel without saying one word on the talk page or the edit summary. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 17:45, 21 October 2010 (UTC)</font></small>
:::Nowhere near Israel? Are you sure? I edited the article a long time ago. Maybe something happened in the meantime. Sorry if I got it wrong. --] (]) 17:52, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Im sorry, I didnt realize I was dealing with somebody who didnt know the basic facts. Ghajar straddles the border between Lebanon and Syria. The Syrian territory it is in is occupied by Israel. It is not however in Israel or anywhere near Israel for that matter. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 18:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)</font></small>


:Yes, thanks. ] (]) 21:36, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
== Honorifics ==
::You want it at AE or AN (I would suggest AN personally)? <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 21:26, 2 November 2023 (UTC)</small>
:::Not really sure what the difference is, but if you say AN, then it's fine with me. Do I have to do something?
:::Best, G ] (]) 13:20, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
::::Personally I'd have said there's more chance of the block being reviewed at AE and less chance of it descending into a morass of back and forth. It's one of the things I like about AE. But the choice is yours, Gila. ] &#124; ] 13:42, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::I think the general editor base is more forgiving than just the admins who patrol AE. But yes it is your choice Gila. If you want it decided by only uninvolved admins then AE, if you want it more a jury of your peers so to speak then AN. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 13:44, 3 November 2023 (UTC)</small>
::::You should watch and be prepared to respond. Also, if you're willing to take some advice, things like ''I wonder how many of you can say you have over 72,000 edits to your credit.'' are not going to go over well. What any unblock request needs is a demonstration of an understanding of why you are blocked and, more than that, an understanding of what you will do to avoid such a thing in the future. What you need to do is acknowledge the edits were topic ban violations, and commit to doing your best to avoiding them. But you can also say that when others had approached you with past ban violations you immediately self-reverted (eg ]). And that you will do your best to abide by the ban unless and until it is lifted, but that respectfully editors should be given a chance to correct an issue before it escalates to blocks, we do it all the time for one-revert rule violations. Ill wait for one more confirmation that the statement in your unblock request is what you want copied over and then do it for you when I see it. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 13:43, 3 November 2023 (UTC)</small>


Irrespective of the outcome of the appeal, this editor should remain blocked for copyright violations. See ]. ] 19:54, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your corrections to the ] page. I saw that you removed most uses of the title "Rabbi" from the article, but I see that many other Misplaced Pages articles use this sort of title. Is there a Misplaced Pages policy or set of guidelines on how to use such titles? Thanks! ] (]) 14:41, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
::You can have a look at ] for help. I don't think there is a hard and fast rule, but honorifics are generally discouraged on Misplaced Pages. Describing someone as a rabbi is fine, but in this particular article, where nearly everyone mentioned is a rabbi and/or doctor, the repetition of "Rabbi Dr." seemed excessive to me. Anyone who goes to the linked pages will find out that the person in question is a rabbi or a Ph.D.--] (]) 15:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)


::So here is a revised statement which I would like to submit to AN, as recommended by Nableezy. Many thanks for the helpful comments.] (]) 21:08, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
== NPOV: Settlements are illegal Re: ] ==
:::Copied and notified blocking admin. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 22:28, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</small>
Please refrain from removing ICJ references from the ] article, discuss on ] before removing NPOV terms.] (]) 17:28, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
::Take your agenda somewhere else. This stuff has been discussed ad nauseum. If you are trying to push forward your personal agenda, you should join a political party. An encyclopedia is not the place for it. --] (]) 17:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

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I, Shuki, hereby award you the Israeli Barnstar of National Merit for your extraordinary contribution to Israel-related articles on WP. Thank you --Shuki (talk) 08:19, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For working on an article that you felt shouldn't even exist and helping to bring it up, even if temporarily, to encyclopedic standards. Nableezy (talk) 18:32, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
The Jewish Barnstar
For editing the page Jerusalem stone.Elan26 (talk) 20:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC)Elan26
I, For all your copyedits and improvements to Tel Aviv Flymeoutofhere (talk) 11:46, 13 April 2008 (UTC), award you this Bagel of Zion for improving the coverage of ציון. Remember not to edit on empty stomach.
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I hereby award you The Photographer's Barnstar for the beautiful photos of Israel and Jewish stuff you have taken and graced Misplaced Pages with! I had noticed your contrbution way back in July 2007! The one of the Dome of the Rock viewed through the Cotton Merchants Gate (right) is my favourite! Happy snapping! Chesdovi (talk) 02:16, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
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For your work on Hat, I hereby award you this barnstar. →Wordbuilder (talk) 17:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
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This award is given to User:Gilabrand in recognition of all your imaginative and original photographs related to topics about Israel and Judaism, as can be seen on your user page. In particular, I was impressed by how many of these photographs enhance so many articles about people, places and things in Israel. Mazal Tov and may you be blessed to continue contributing to Misplaced Pages in this productive fashion for a long time to come. See Misplaced Pages:Barnstars: "The da Vinci Barnstar may be awarded to anyone who has enhanced Misplaced Pages through their technical work..." and you most certainly deserve it. Sincerely, IZAK (talk) 04:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar
I was going to give you the copyeditor's barnstar, but I then realized that would be shortchanging your many other valuable contributions to and helping out with Israel and Judaism related articles. Much appreciated! nadav (talk) 07:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
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For all your quality contributions to Israel-related articles, you fully deserve this. пﮟოьεԻ 57 20:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
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i frummer give you this award for all the great work you've put into many judaism, jewish and israel relates articles, all the while steering clear of controversy! ..thnx Gila!
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For the excellent editting and formatting that helped lead to Israel's promotion to featured article status. --Jdcaust 16:20, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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I award you with this Jewish Barnstar Award for your helping keep the Judaism article up to standards. Keep up Your Good Work! Nimrauko 23:50, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
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For defending Misplaced Pages from all lies-on-the-ground :).--Mbz1 (talk) 14:25, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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In recognition of all the work you’ve done lately! 66.87.0.115 (talk) 20:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
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You've been busy today with some great editing, so here's a falafel. Sit back and enjoy. Jethro B 23:21, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
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For your tireless contribution and efforts. E3 (talk) 14:25, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
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Awesome job as always. Itsalleasy (talk) 22:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

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Request

Hello.

In the Wikidata page of Harashim (Wikidata:Q2890766), can you replace the photo File:זריחה 19-1-2013 1.JPG with the photo that actually shows the village File:תצלום אוירי מקורי של חרשים.jpg?

I could not do it, because of technical problems.

Yours sincerely, 31.200.18.161 (talk) 17:09, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

I tried, but got a message that the change couldn't be published because of some formatting issue. Maybe ask someone who has more technical expertise.--Geewhiz (talk) 07:01, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for the recommendation. 31.200.18.161 (talk) 07:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Mashmigey Herut

Hi!

The page Magshimey Herut has been proposed for deletion. I see that you recently put work into the article, so perhaps you may want to chime in on the deletion discussion page: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Magshimey Herut

thanks!Mistamystery (talk) 05:13, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Why did you delete the Note section at Tova Ascher

You broke the page when you did that. It contained a 10-20 year old standard for Notes before the modern Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).. Misplaced Pages contain a lot of old style markup code that need to be left alone. Dave-okanagan (talk) 21:56, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Please use descriptive edit summaries

Given the problems going on at Jay Ruderman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), edit summaries are a necessity for editors to work together to resolve the situation. Please be more careful. - Hipal (talk) 17:09, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

October 2023

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To enforce an arbitration decision, and for persistent violations of your topic ban after having been twice blocked for the same in the past, you have been blocked indefinitely from editing Misplaced Pages.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the ] or ]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard, I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. 


Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" ). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."

These edits (1 2 3), all of which are from this month, are bright-line violations of your topic ban from the Arab–Israeli conflict and Palestine. Furthermore, these other recent edits (4 5 6 7 8 9), while individually minor violations, together constitute a clear pattern of ignoring the boundaries of your topic ban. This evidence, combined with the 2 previous blocks for violating this topic ban and 12 earlier blocks, mostly for disruption in this topic area, convinces me that no temporary block will be adequate to prevent further disruption. Note that, per Misplaced Pages:Contentious topics § Duration of restrictions, after 1 year this becomes appealable under standard unblock procedures. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 20:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

What??? There must be some mistake here. I have been editing for years and years, and made a very conscious effort to edit productively on a wide variety of subjects, many of them connected to Israel, but not touching on issues related to the conflict. I am pretty much in shock. The diffs you are citing are, what can I say? Lame is not the word...Please take a closer look at my contributions over the years - and undo this block. Thanks.--Geewhiz (talk) 01:12, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
I very highly recommend that this be scaled back considerably if not entirely. Honestly, Gila should have just appealed this sanction years ago, and absent these latest violations probably would have been successful doing so. Remind her that she is still topic banned if you like, but this is overkill. nableezy - 01:40, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
I looked at all the edits that were given above as a reason for a ban, and I did not see one that was controversial in the least. These were all very small routine edits, it looks to me. I think the Admin is following guidelines, but this looks like definite overkill. The editor can be reminded and warned when and if they cross the line, but to ban such a veteran contributor for the edits above seems to me to unwarranted. I would also suggest that it be scaled back. Thank you, warshy 14:23, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
@Warshy how many warnings would you suggest is an appropriate number? Gila has been blocked at least eight times previously for violations of restrictions and the purpose of the topic ban is to keep Gila away from a topic area where she cannot or will not edit in line with policy. I'll grant you the line might not always be obvious but there are 6.7 million articles in this encyclopaedia so it's not as if it's inevitable that somebody would fall afoul of it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:09, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Since her unblock in 2015 till this block she has been blocked twice in the 8 years since. I submit to you even if those blocks are totally merited, even if Gilabrand should never touch an ARBPIA topic again, that the lets say 50 edits that she should not have made in those 8 years stacked up against the 20,164 edits she has made in that time do not merit an indefinite block. Remind her of the topic ban, even with another month long block if you want, but you are doing Misplaced Pages a disservice by blocking her indefinitely. And I say this as somebody who I am certain Gila does not like in the slightest. nableezy - 21:25, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
I'm familiar with the history. Look at who unblocked Gila in 2015 and indeed who imposed the topic ban in the first place. The obvious counter argument, and what it appears led Leeky to make the block indefinite, is that Gila has sat out two previous three-month blocks for topic ban violations, so what would another definite-duration block achieve? An indef can't be sat out and would require something affirmative from Gila for it to be lifted. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, I know. But Harry, even if she sits it out, you get an average of 3 years and 2500 edits of great work in between. My guy, it isnt that serious. This is slap on the wrist and ask her to be more mindful again and let her work on the things she does for free for this place. nableezy - 22:07, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
I agree with Nableezy, of course, and I thank him for trying to get the record straight here. I would suggest that warnings or even time-limited bans should be given here if she makes any edits that are controversial in the topic, even slightly so. But, as I said, I don't see anything that rises to that level in all the edits you listed above. I am asking Gila personally to be always aware of the ban, and to try and comply with it from now on, whenever she makes an edit. If she agrees to try and comply with this request here, I'd suggest we try again, starting with warnings, self-reversions, and even time-limited bans, if she doesn't comply with her plea to do so. Thank you again for being open to even discuss this sensitive matter here, and for being open to at least listening to our suggestions. Thank you, warshy 00:07, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Back when Gilabrand had full ARBPIA rights, working with her was a chore due to her strong bias and disruptive style. So I believe her topic ban is justified and I would oppose any appeal with stronger language than I allow myself on this talk page. When she edits on innocuous matters, on the other hand, her work is valuable. The problem is how to get the best without also getting the worst, and I have no suggestions except to enforce the ban. An indef is harsher than necessary, but why would a mere warning achieve what actual blocks failed to achieve in the past? Zero 07:18, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
I'd also like to opine that Gilbrand's description of Theleakycauldon's diffs as "lame is not the word", when in fact that they are completely blatant and obvious, indicates that she really doesn't get it. Zero 07:39, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

CCI Notice

Hello, Gilabrand. This message is being sent to inform you that a request for a contributor copyright investigation has been filed at Contributor copyright investigations concerning your contributions to Misplaced Pages in relation to Misplaced Pages's copyrights policy. The listing can be found here. Thank you. Hog Farm Talk 23:34, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Unblock request

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Gilabrand (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I am reaching out to kindly request a review of the recent suspension placed on my account, after spending the last 18 years giving of my time and energy to this project. I have over 72,000 edits to my credit. I have been so taken aback by this unexpected action (no advance notice, no edit-warring, no dispute with anyone), I am almost at a loss for words (which is rare for me). I assure you that my contributions were made in complete good faith, including the ones that some interpret as violating a topic ban that I have been careful to adhere to for the last 8 years (although there may have been slip-ups here and there, and as Nableezy has rightly commented, I ought to have appealed years ago). Allow me to say that on the few occasions that ban violations were brought to my attention, I was quick to revert as requested. An example: here.

I am keen on maintaining the integrity and the accuracy of the content on Misplaced Pages, which has been the driving force behind my long-term commitment, and whatever complaints certain editors have had against me in the olden days, I believe there has been no repetition of any of that for decades. Many years have gone by during which I have a proven track record of working productively. I have added sourced content to thousands of entries, copyedited the English, written new articles and added images where there were none. Since my edits often involve topics related to Israel and Israeli people, I occasionally encounter gray areas requiring judgment calls - particularly in articles that are not clearly marked as falling under ARBPIA constraints but may contain sentences related to the conflict. If my appeal is accepted, I intend to avoid these gray areas with greater care.

I am open to engaging in dialogue to address any concerns you may have and do what is needed to rectify the situation. I hope someone will realize that I may be old but I still have something to offer. Somehow, I don’t feel ready to be put out on the ice floe. I urge you to reconsider this block, to weigh the positive against the negative, and allow me to continue serving the Misplaced Pages community.

Decline reason:

There is consensus at AN that the block is appropriate, as such your appeal is declined. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:21, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I've formatted your request and placed it at the bottom, for proper discussion flow. 331dot (talk) 18:33, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

As this request is for an arbitration enforcement block, is this the statement that you want placed on the appropriate noticeboard? 331dot (talk) 18:35, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, thanks. Geewhiz (talk) 21:36, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
You want it at AE or AN (I would suggest AN personally)? nableezy - 21:26, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
Not really sure what the difference is, but if you say AN, then it's fine with me. Do I have to do something?
Best, G Geewhiz (talk) 13:20, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Personally I'd have said there's more chance of the block being reviewed at AE and less chance of it descending into a morass of back and forth. It's one of the things I like about AE. But the choice is yours, Gila. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:42, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
I think the general editor base is more forgiving than just the admins who patrol AE. But yes it is your choice Gila. If you want it decided by only uninvolved admins then AE, if you want it more a jury of your peers so to speak then AN. nableezy - 13:44, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
You should watch and be prepared to respond. Also, if you're willing to take some advice, things like I wonder how many of you can say you have over 72,000 edits to your credit. are not going to go over well. What any unblock request needs is a demonstration of an understanding of why you are blocked and, more than that, an understanding of what you will do to avoid such a thing in the future. What you need to do is acknowledge the edits were topic ban violations, and commit to doing your best to avoiding them. But you can also say that when others had approached you with past ban violations you immediately self-reverted (eg here). And that you will do your best to abide by the ban unless and until it is lifted, but that respectfully editors should be given a chance to correct an issue before it escalates to blocks, we do it all the time for one-revert rule violations. Ill wait for one more confirmation that the statement in your unblock request is what you want copied over and then do it for you when I see it. nableezy - 13:43, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Irrespective of the outcome of the appeal, this editor should remain blocked for copyright violations. See Misplaced Pages:Contributor copyright investigations/Gilabrand. MER-C 19:54, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

So here is a revised statement which I would like to submit to AN, as recommended by Nableezy. Many thanks for the helpful comments.Geewhiz (talk) 21:08, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Copied and notified blocking admin. nableezy - 22:28, 5 November 2023 (UTC)