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== ] ==

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== banned user ==

Hi. I notice that your last edit at ] was reverted by IP number who happens to be the banned ]. He has been 'harblocked' since that last edit but you should try to become familiar with his contributions, interests and methods as he is likely to reinvent himself again, and again, and again. He also edits articles such as ]. I no longer edit science articles and I can't keep monitoring the situation. ] (]) 01:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

:I'll keep that in mind, but you might want to notify ] (at other relevant WikiProjects) for this to get more attention. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] / ] / ] / ]}</span> 01:12, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

OK ] (]) 01:15, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Template:Bibleref2c ==

]: Yor last edits of the template broke formatting of pages in which it is included. Please experiment on a copy of the template before finalizing the change, so that the rest of wikipedia remains unbroken. ] (]) 15:27, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

After the template the immediately following text (in ]) looked like this:

Jesus, just before his Passion, during Last Supper, promises to send

I.e., as if extra <CR><space> were inserted. ] (]) 15:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
: ]. Anyway, I checked some others; same issue. Notice this happens when the template is inserted in the middle of a paragraph. I am using Internet Explorer 8 . ] (]) 15:37, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
::P.S. My wikipedia GUI is in this "new features" mode. (I noticed it is a bit buggy.) ] (]) 15:41, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for quick response. ] (]) 16:00, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

== Proposed Contribution ==

Well, there is hope. Since sometimes critiques or critique-like articles are allowed in Misplaced Pages, I have something to shoot for. Maybe I'll take a look at the examples you cite. I understand the policies. I am just looking for a way to satisfy them and do what I think I need to do.

I want to use Misplaced Pages because it is well respected and it is frequently consulted by journalists and other professionals. I think something needs to be done about the bias that can be present in the popular media, professional scientific journals and even among Misplaced Pages editors. That is, the consensus can be skewed.

You really have to admit that just by accepting an article for inclusion in Misplaced Pages implies a bias that is contrary to the NPOV policy. Perfect neutrality cannot be achieved, but positive explicit steps can be taken to compensate.

] (]) 17:39, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

:Yes, we are biased against the non-mainstream. A "criticism of X" type of article can only be written if their is significant and notable criticism of X. If the criticism is mostly done by fringers and quacks, then it is very unlikely that the article will be allowed to remain. A "criticism of black holes" type of article has nearly no chance of being included in the encyclopedia, because the only people who dispute that are relativity deniers and similar fringers/quacks. I don't know what exactly you plan to write, but if your recent posts on various talk pages are any indication, I doubt that I and others will agree that what you want to include meets our content guidelines. You're welcomed to try, but don't be surprised at the result if it turns out differently than you expected. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] / ] / ] / ]}</span> 18:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

== Bibleref2's ==

Thanks for the nice updates to the Bibleref2's.

Here are some items on my "dream sheet." I'd like to share them with you in case any inspire you to apply your talents:

1. In Bibleref2c, it would be nice to have the user's input displayed in the shortest legal abbreviated form according to generally accepted abbreviations. E.g., |Matt|6:33| would become <sup>Mt 6:33</sup> I realize that would require a table lookup, which I don't know how to do in this language.

2. In Bibleref2, it would be nice to have the Book name displayed in full. The user could always override that using the Comment field. Hence, {{Bibleref2|Matt|6:33}} would display as '''Matthew 6:33'''

3. Eliminate periods and superfluous spaces in any displayed references except comments. Users tend to be inconsistent, sometimes including a period after a book name abbreviation and along comes another user who adds a bibleref2 and omits any period after the abbreviated book name. We would leave them if the user makes the reference a comment.

4. Numbered books remain a problem and presently require a comment to separate the number from the alpha book name. If we get a table lookup working, it would be simple to let the user enter |1Cor| or |1 Cor|. Then, our earlier logic would enter the spelled out version in bibleref2 and correctly abbreviated version in the 2c's.

Thanks! ─] (]) 19:23, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


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How do I get rewards for Misplaced Pages? Thank you. Happy editing! ] (]) 17:32, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
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:You don't, it's a volunteer project. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] · ] · ] · ]}</span> 19:39, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
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What are you ? - ] (]) 02:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi. Looks good. You might also want to look at ], ], ], and possibly ]. Thanks —] <small>(])</small> 14:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


:Fixing a typo. Not sure why there was a bunch of fffff's. Reverted that part. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] · ] · ] · ]}</span> 02:55, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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== Crashy crashy ==
Hey HB, that's a good one! I wish I created that! Best, --] (]) 23:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)


Looks like AAB crashed, but according to contribs, it actually posted all the report pages including last update but not the status page. It looks like it didn't upload zips. So the next run needs to not download zips so it uses the current local files. If you send me the log file, I might take a look at what crashed. —&nbsp;<small>&nbsp;]&nbsp;<b>∣</b>&nbsp;]</small> 10:13, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
:Well, there's ], ], ], ], ... all up for grabs :p. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] / ] / ] / ]}</span> 23:11, 9 November 2010 (UTC)


:{{ping|Hellknowz}} log on IRC, i'll send them to you. I had a hard crash (bluescreen) towards the end of the run. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] · ] · ] · ]}</span> 10:43, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
::Hmm..., HMMM!!! Best, --] (]) 23:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::You can't send files on IRC anyway, so you'd have to e-mail it. But if it's your PC that crashed, then I don't really need the log. —&nbsp;<small>&nbsp;]&nbsp;<b>∣</b>&nbsp;]</small> 12:45, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Maybe it's AAB that made it crash? Anyway, the log files stop at
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</pre> &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] · ] · ] · ]}</span> 12:55, 12 January 2025 (UTC)


:If your PC crashed, then the bot never got the chance to flush the latest entries to the log. But it wouldn't have anything useful anyway - it's not like I log (or can log) system crashes or even app crashes. If this was caused by the bot (which is very unlikely with C#), I'd need your system crash logs that would have a stack trace to the AAB process. But honestly, it's not worth it unless this is systematic. —&nbsp;<small>&nbsp;]&nbsp;<b>∣</b>&nbsp;]</small> 16:46, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
:::I think best I stick with music books! You're doing an amzing job with what you've got going on. Thanks for all you've done (which was a lot) on ] and ]. I don't know why Halls hasn't said thanks; but I am! Best, --] (]) 23:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah there's nothing in the crash logs. Nothing before the crash, and after the crash, there's a
::"The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly."
::There's abunch of other error/warnings after the reboot, but they're all related to normal post-bluescreen fuckups and other software like AMDRyzenMaster. It's definitely not systematic. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] · ] · ] · ]}</span> 17:00, 12 January 2025 (UTC)


== Brews at AE == == Enlighten me, please ==


I'd appreciate knowing why you reverted my re-insertion of the definite article in "Records of the Australian Academy of Science", in the ] article, despite my having provided a source for the correct terminology. ] (]) 07:59, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello Headbomb. I reviewed your new report at ]. I suggest you might consider withdrawing the report. Though Brews has been skirting the limits in the past, I don't see anything actionable here. His appear benign to me. The theory of relativity was already in the article, so he didn't add that. It is reasonable to be concerned that Brews may not be sincerely trying to stay within the limits, but filing an AE report that isn't very persuasive won't really help the situation. He tried to add the same Fontoura Costa reference also at ], but the editors there did not agree to include it. Allowing the normal editorial process to work at ] seems like the natural thing to do. Thank you, ] (]) 04:05, 10 November 2010 (UTC)


:See {{doi|10.1071/hr9720230052}}. Everywhere, it's '']'', without the 'the'. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] · ] · ] · ]}</span> 08:34, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
:It's a pretty crystal clear and blatant violation of his ban. Discussion of the nature of space, and whether it is Euclidean or Einsteinian is not only blatantly physics-related, it's also directly related the area where brews has been most disruptive (speed of light, electromagnetism, relativity topics, and anything related to it). You may not be a physicist and see the connection immediately, but this is equivalent of someone being banned from a topic such as ] editing the article on ]. Brews has been testing his ban, violating it left and right, and has wasted countless hours of productive editor's time over the last 16 months or so now. He has been warned plenty of times. Hell, he's been banned not even two weeks ago for this stuff, and he still keeps at it.


::{{tpw}} The publishers themselves are inconsistent: see online without "the", yet they "The first issue of the journal (under the title ''Records of the Australian Academy of Science'')" ! ]] 10:45, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
:So no, I will not withdraw the request. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] / ] / ] / ]}</span> 04:18, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Being a retired librarian this has piqued my interest: I've emailed the publishers to query their inconsistency! ]] 10:51, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
::What about the ]? Should he avoid that also? How about articles in {{cat|Euclidean plane geometry}}? I don't see where your argument has any plausible limit. If you closely view his actual changes at ], I wonder what you can object to. ] (]) 04:44, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
::::The British Library has with the "the". It would be lovely to see an actual facsimile printed issue, but Google books isn't offering one! ]] 11:00, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
:::If Brews starts (or started, I don't watch that page but judging from a quick glance at its history, it seems that Brews behaviour has been problematic there as well) making statements about the physical nature of things such as "As discussed in more detail below, Einstein's theory of relativity significantly modifies this view." in ] and reference physics books such as '']'', by ], to argue his points, then yes, it would most definitely fall within the scope of the ban. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] / ] / ] / ]}</span> 04:49, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Please see I made at AE. While some admins favor a 1RR/week restriction on all natural science articles, we don't have the authority to do that. All we can do is block Brews for violating his topic ban from physics. Maybe you want to comment further on what should be done. Thanks, ] (]) 19:18, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

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You don't, it's a volunteer project. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:39, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

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What are you trying to do here? - Ratnahastin (talk) 02:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Fixing a typo. Not sure why there was a bunch of fffff's. Reverted that part. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:55, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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Crashy crashy

Looks like AAB crashed, but according to contribs, it actually posted all the report pages including last update but not the status page. It looks like it didn't upload zips. So the next run needs to not download zips so it uses the current local files. If you send me the log file, I might take a look at what crashed. —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 10:13, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Hellknowz: log on IRC, i'll send them to you. I had a hard crash (bluescreen) towards the end of the run. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:43, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
You can't send files on IRC anyway, so you'd have to e-mail it. But if it's your PC that crashed, then I don't really need the log. —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 12:45, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Maybe it's AAB that made it crash? Anyway, the log files stop at 

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(2025-01-12 08-13-02)  Started processing subscription "WikiProject Sudan"...
(2025-01-12 08-13-02)  Subscription "WikiProject Sudan" now waiting on report pages to be processed...
(2025-01-12 08-13-02)  Nothing to update for subscription "WikiProject State University System of Florida", not uploading report page
(2025-01-12 08-13-02)  Nothing to update for subscription "WikiProject Star Wars", not uploading report page

Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 12:55, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

If your PC crashed, then the bot never got the chance to flush the latest entries to the log. But it wouldn't have anything useful anyway - it's not like I log (or can log) system crashes or even app crashes. If this was caused by the bot (which is very unlikely with C#), I'd need your system crash logs that would have a stack trace to the AAB process. But honestly, it's not worth it unless this is systematic. —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 16:46, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Yeah there's nothing in the crash logs. Nothing before the crash, and after the crash, there's a
"The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly."
There's abunch of other error/warnings after the reboot, but they're all related to normal post-bluescreen fuckups and other software like AMDRyzenMaster. It's definitely not systematic. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:00, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Enlighten me, please

I'd appreciate knowing why you reverted my re-insertion of the definite article in "Records of the Australian Academy of Science", in the Paul Wild (Australian scientist) article, despite my having provided a source for the correct terminology. SCHolar44 (talk) 07:59, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

See doi:10.1071/hr9720230052. Everywhere, it's Records of Australian Academy of Science, without the 'the'. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 08:34, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) The publishers themselves are inconsistent: see Vol 1(1) online without "the", yet they now say "The first issue of the journal (under the title Records of the Australian Academy of Science)" ! PamD 10:45, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Being a retired librarian this has piqued my interest: I've emailed the publishers to query their inconsistency! PamD 10:51, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
The British Library has catalogued it with the "the". It would be lovely to see an actual facsimile printed issue, but Google books isn't offering one! PamD 11:00, 13 January 2025 (UTC)