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Isn't 'Queen Mother' the generic term for the mother of a queen?* If so, I do not think it would right to 'hog' this page for one specific person.
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(my Pocket Oxford Dictionary says: "queen mother n. dowager who is mother of the sovereign.")--branko


Rajmata is currently translated in the article as "Mother of the State", with the justification that 'Raj' means 'State'. However, the technical term for state/kingdom is actually 'Rajya'. Furthermore, the actual term for the King (or, rarely, if at all, Queen) Mother is "Rajamata" ]: ]]]]]]]]](note the missing 'a' in the term in the article). This is technically from the same word in ], which itself is a ] "'''राज्ञः माता''' या सा राजमाता।" (Translation: "She who is the '''King's mother''' is the King-mother". The translation here has the appearance of stating the obvious, but it gramatically defines the compound word in terms of the simple words whose place and meaning the compound word takes).


Basically, I think that the translation "Mother of the State" is inaccurate, with the inaccuracy being caused by the inaccurate term 'Raj' ]]]] inaccurately being confused with 'State' due to lack of accurate Sanskrit transliteration of the word 'Raja' ]]]]] in "Rajamata" in the first place. The accurate term is, thus, "Rajamata", and the accurate translation is "King-Mother". ] (]) 05:35, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
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']' is the mother of a Queen, although the ']' (with caps) is a specific person, I think??

'' 'Queen Mother' means the mother of a reigning queen, as opposed to the mother of a queen consort. So there may be another British one in the future, even ignoring other countries.''

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In re "Queen Mother" in India

Rajmata is currently translated in the article as "Mother of the State", with the justification that 'Raj' means 'State'. However, the technical term for state/kingdom is actually 'Rajya'. Furthermore, the actual term for the King (or, rarely, if at all, Queen) Mother is "Rajamata" (note the missing 'a' in the term in the article). This is technically from the same word in Sanskrit, which itself is a Sanskrit compound "राज्ञः माता या सा राजमाता।" (Translation: "She who is the King's mother is the King-mother". The translation here has the appearance of stating the obvious, but it gramatically defines the compound word in terms of the simple words whose place and meaning the compound word takes).

Basically, I think that the translation "Mother of the State" is inaccurate, with the inaccuracy being caused by the inaccurate term 'Raj' inaccurately being confused with 'State' due to lack of accurate Sanskrit transliteration of the word 'Raja' in "Rajamata" in the first place. The accurate term is, thus, "Rajamata", and the accurate translation is "King-Mother". Viv73 (talk) 05:35, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

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