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==Needs extra work==

After having edited the part about the castle to the best of my findings (all sources have been linked) I think it might need recluttering as I only found later there might actually be two different castles which are both referred to as either 'castle di Baja' or 'araganose castle' in different sources over time. The first castle being '']'' and the other being '']''. It took me some time to unravel due to the fact that the English wiki only has a page on 1 of the 2. I'll remove my edits regarding the castle and reset the wiki to a prior state. --] (]) 07:51, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

==Thoughts==
I think your article is well organized and has many details. The floating bridge part made me laugh. I also liked the see also section. I think your article is well organized and has many details. The floating bridge part made me laugh. I also liked the see also section.


I feel that there might be too many distracting links. Do we need to have a link to 'corruption', 'hedonistic', 'saunas','elegies', etc? Those just seem to be words, and if the reader can't understand they could just use a dictionary. I feel that there might be too many distracting links. Do we need to have a link to 'corruption', 'hedonistic', 'saunas','elegies', etc? Those just seem to be words, and if the reader can't understand they could just use a dictionary.


'Things had obviously not changed much'. I would avoid using 'obviously'. this seems to take away the objective nature of this article. Also, the TA's might not like that. I remeber getting points taken off an essay when i wrote somthing similar; the reason was on the grouds of it being arrogant. 'Things had obviously not changed much'. I would avoid using 'obviously'. this seems to take away the objective nature of this article. Also, the TA's might not like that. I remeber getting points taken off an essay when i wrote somthing similar; the reason was on the grouds of it being arrogant. ] 20:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)Erzhe Zhang
:Fixt. — ] 12:59, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

] 20:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)Erzhe Zhang



==More thoughts==
For the most part I think this is a very good article. I like the picture and the use of subheadings, and I think that you used good information. One thing I would consider adding is when (or around when) Baiae was started in the first place and if it was started with the idea of a resort-type place in mind or as just an enjoyment for the locals. Also, it would be interesting to know what the city is like today (are the hot springs still in use? is it a popular destination?) Maybe you could elaborate on the casino that you mention at the end of "resort section", as well. Were the casinos in those days like the ones today? What games did they play? These are minor things though, and I think that you covered all the main points of the topic well. For the most part I think this is a very good article. I like the picture and the use of subheadings, and I think that you used good information. One thing I would consider adding is when (or around when) Baiae was started in the first place and if it was started with the idea of a resort-type place in mind or as just an enjoyment for the locals. Also, it would be interesting to know what the city is like today (are the hot springs still in use? is it a popular destination?) Maybe you could elaborate on the casino that you mention at the end of "resort section", as well. Were the casinos in those days like the ones today? What games did they play? These are minor things though, and I think that you covered all the main points of the topic well.

-Brian Caveney -Brian Caveney


==Thoughts III==

This is a very strong article. You have cited very meticulously and included a lot of significance which is great for a wikipedia style audience. Also your picture and see also sections are great for contex. I would agree with Erzhe that you have maybe too many internal links. I think that these are important but just because there is an article on Misplaced Pages about something doesn't mean you need to link it. Also, I think it would have helped me as far as understanding the location of Baiae if you included a basic map of Italy so that when you describe where in Italy it is there is a visual representation. As far as additional information, the only thing I would request is possibly more cultural information about Baiae as a resort. You talk about emperors, but how did Baiae function as a gathering place for the general elite? (or did it at all?) Overall, very interesting details and good writing style for a Misplaced Pages audience. This is a very strong article. You have cited very meticulously and included a lot of significance which is great for a wikipedia style audience. Also your picture and see also sections are great for contex. I would agree with Erzhe that you have maybe too many internal links. I think that these are important but just because there is an article on Misplaced Pages about something doesn't mean you need to link it. Also, I think it would have helped me as far as understanding the location of Baiae if you included a basic map of Italy so that when you describe where in Italy it is there is a visual representation. As far as additional information, the only thing I would request is possibly more cultural information about Baiae as a resort. You talk about emperors, but how did Baiae function as a gathering place for the general elite? (or did it at all?) Overall, very interesting details and good writing style for a Misplaced Pages audience.
- Danni Brancaccio - Danni Brancaccio
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== Temple of Mercury == == Temple of Mercury ==
Good effort so far, but the so-called Temple of Mercury, the bath complex, is missing. The dome was after all ''the widest in the world'' until construction of the Pantheon. See: ]. Regards ] 17:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC) Good effort so far, but the so-called Temple of Mercury, the bath complex, is missing. The dome was after all ''the widest in the world'' until construction of the Pantheon. See: ]. Regards ] 17:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)





== The gates of helll == == The gates of helll ==
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== Wrong link to Thrasyllus == == Wrong link to Thrasyllus ==

The link to Thrasyllus takes you to a guy that would have been approximately 500 years old at the time of Caligula. The link to Thrasyllus takes you to a guy that would have been approximately 500 years old at the time of Caligula.


I assume the correct link is to Thrasyllus_of_Mendes although that article says "Thrasyllus predeceased the Emperor, and did not live to see the realization of his prediction that Caligula would succeed", which seems to be the opposite of "astrologer Thrasyllus’ prediction that he had "no more chance of becoming emperor than of riding a horse across the Gulf of Baiae."" I assume the correct link is to Thrasyllus_of_Mendes although that article says "Thrasyllus predeceased the Emperor, and did not live to see the realization of his prediction that Caligula would succeed", which seems to be the opposite of "astrologer Thrasyllus’ prediction that he had "no more chance of becoming emperor than of riding a horse across the Gulf of Baiae."" ] (]) 03:17, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
] (]) 03:17, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


==Copyright violation== ==Copyright violation==
I just added by {{user|Miguel de Servet}} in July 2007 as it was copied from published in June 2007. ] (]) 21:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC) I just added by {{user|Miguel de Servet}} in July 2007 as it was copied from published in June 2007. ] (]) 21:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
:Indeed. And I thoughtlessly reinstated it. My error.--] (]) 04:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC) :Indeed. And I thoughtlessly reinstated it. My error.--] (]) 04:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

==Sources for future article expansion==
These—
* Paolo Amalfitano ''et al.'', ''I Campi Flegrei'' Venice 1990.
* ], ''Ninfei ed edifici marittimi severiani del Palatium imperiale di Baia'', Naples, 1997.
* Piero Alfredo Gianfrotta, Fabio Maniscalco (eds.), ''Forma Maris. Forum Internazionale di Archeologia Subacquea'', Puteoli, 1998.
*''Puteoli. Studi di Storia Romana.''
*''Baia: the castle, museum and archaeological sites'', 2003.
—were previously misplaced in a #Bibliography section. #Further reading was probably intended but still a bad idea unless a scholar in this field wants to curate the list and provide glosses as to their value over a Google Books search for the term "Baia". Better to reïnclude them once they are being used to source some point in the article. — ] 12:59, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

== New discoveries in 2023 ==

New discoveries in 2023: https://www.heritagedaily.com/2023/04/mosaic-discovered-in-ruins-of-submerged-roman-town/146859 ] (]) 23:01, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

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Needs extra work

After having edited the part about the castle to the best of my findings (all sources have been linked) I think it might need recluttering as I only found later there might actually be two different castles which are both referred to as either 'castle di Baja' or 'araganose castle' in different sources over time. The first castle being it:Castello Aragonese (Baia) and the other being it:Castello Aragonese (Ischia). It took me some time to unravel due to the fact that the English wiki only has a page on 1 of the 2. I'll remove my edits regarding the castle and reset the wiki to a prior state. --BoschA (talk) 07:51, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Thoughts

I think your article is well organized and has many details. The floating bridge part made me laugh. I also liked the see also section.

I feel that there might be too many distracting links. Do we need to have a link to 'corruption', 'hedonistic', 'saunas','elegies', etc? Those just seem to be words, and if the reader can't understand they could just use a dictionary.

'Things had obviously not changed much'. I would avoid using 'obviously'. this seems to take away the objective nature of this article. Also, the TA's might not like that. I remeber getting points taken off an essay when i wrote somthing similar; the reason was on the grouds of it being arrogant. 64.241.37.140 20:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)Erzhe Zhang

Fixt. — LlywelynII 12:59, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

More thoughts

For the most part I think this is a very good article. I like the picture and the use of subheadings, and I think that you used good information. One thing I would consider adding is when (or around when) Baiae was started in the first place and if it was started with the idea of a resort-type place in mind or as just an enjoyment for the locals. Also, it would be interesting to know what the city is like today (are the hot springs still in use? is it a popular destination?) Maybe you could elaborate on the casino that you mention at the end of "resort section", as well. Were the casinos in those days like the ones today? What games did they play? These are minor things though, and I think that you covered all the main points of the topic well. -Brian Caveney

Thoughts III

This is a very strong article. You have cited very meticulously and included a lot of significance which is great for a wikipedia style audience. Also your picture and see also sections are great for contex. I would agree with Erzhe that you have maybe too many internal links. I think that these are important but just because there is an article on Misplaced Pages about something doesn't mean you need to link it. Also, I think it would have helped me as far as understanding the location of Baiae if you included a basic map of Italy so that when you describe where in Italy it is there is a visual representation. As far as additional information, the only thing I would request is possibly more cultural information about Baiae as a resort. You talk about emperors, but how did Baiae function as a gathering place for the general elite? (or did it at all?) Overall, very interesting details and good writing style for a Misplaced Pages audience. - Danni Brancaccio

Temple of Mercury

Good effort so far, but the so-called Temple of Mercury, the bath complex, is missing. The dome was after all the widest in the world until construction of the Pantheon. See: List of world's largest domes. Regards Gun Powder Ma 17:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

The gates of helll

isnt there a gates of helll in baiae whch inspired virgils underworld in the aenied —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.239.117.239 (talk) 00:44, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

There is an underground temple complex at Baia that some believe to have been an initiatory site into the Mysteries and an "Oracle of the Dead". It was explored by Robert Temple and Michael Baigent in the early 2000's, who believe that ancient writers like Strabo mention it. 91.32.74.245 (talk) 06:38, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Wrong link to Thrasyllus

The link to Thrasyllus takes you to a guy that would have been approximately 500 years old at the time of Caligula.

I assume the correct link is to Thrasyllus_of_Mendes although that article says "Thrasyllus predeceased the Emperor, and did not live to see the realization of his prediction that Caligula would succeed", which seems to be the opposite of "astrologer Thrasyllus’ prediction that he had "no more chance of becoming emperor than of riding a horse across the Gulf of Baiae."" AlexFekken (talk) 03:17, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violation

I just removed this text added by Miguel de Servet (talk · contribs) in July 2007 as it was copied from this blog published in June 2007. Nev1 (talk) 21:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Indeed. And I thoughtlessly reinstated it. My error.--Wetman (talk) 04:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Sources for future article expansion

These—

  • Paolo Amalfitano et al., I Campi Flegrei Venice 1990.
  • Fabio Maniscalco, Ninfei ed edifici marittimi severiani del Palatium imperiale di Baia, Naples, 1997.
  • Piero Alfredo Gianfrotta, Fabio Maniscalco (eds.), Forma Maris. Forum Internazionale di Archeologia Subacquea, Puteoli, 1998.
  • Puteoli. Studi di Storia Romana.
  • Baia: the castle, museum and archaeological sites, 2003.

—were previously misplaced in a #Bibliography section. #Further reading was probably intended but still a bad idea unless a scholar in this field wants to curate the list and provide glosses as to their value over a Google Books search for the term "Baia". Better to reïnclude them once they are being used to source some point in the article. — LlywelynII 12:59, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

New discoveries in 2023

New discoveries in 2023: https://www.heritagedaily.com/2023/04/mosaic-discovered-in-ruins-of-submerged-roman-town/146859 173.88.246.138 (talk) 23:01, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

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