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			I rarely edit here anymore, except to revert the edits of an anon IP who continually vandalizes this page. Any blankings or reversions to this basic format (with archive pages listed above) will be reverted as vandalism. ] (]) 16:01, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
	You've recently reverted some of my edits on the Saruman page. For now I'll let some drop, but I'll list a few minor edits here, and you can tell me if you have any problem with them:
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	1) Colin Manlove's statement under the "involvement in themes" is irrelevant, and untrue to an extent

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	2) In the second para of the intro, there's a sentence "The name Saruman means "man of skill". This point is repeated under the "Names" section, and it breaks the continuity of the para itself. I see no harm in removing it.

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	3) Then there's a sentence "In 1954's The Fellowship of the Ring...". What kind of grammar is this? It sounds as though 1954 is the name of the author. Any harm in changing it to "The Fellowship of the Ring (1954)?" ] (]) 05:17, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

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	I'm curious about . You've restored all of the three problems I tried to avoid in my previous revert of the changes by the non-communicative IP editor, and which I noted in my edit summary (tom and jerry unsourced, wrong links for upcoming films, no rationale for date format changes) as well as other arguably good changes. I have no opinion on the date format change (other than noting that using this compact ISO date format seems to be acceptable in tables per WP:MOS), but several of the other changes since that old version are definitely good. --] (]) 15:41, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
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	:I don't know if you intentionally removed my message when archiving your messages for 2010. I hope you don't mind me restoring it here. I see you've now restored some of the changes again. I'll comment on these point by point:
	:*As noted above the ISO date format is acceptable in tables, see ]. Like I said, I have no preference, but claiming the full date is required per ] is incorrect.
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	:*The reference for the one film you restored is of course appropriate, but it is less important now that that film has been released, given that this lists tends to only have references for release dates of <em>unreleased</em> films.
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	* they had totally different production companies
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	* they had totally different distributors
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	* they had totally different casts
	* the animation was done by different people

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	the only thing they had in common was that they are about the same thing,
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	My thinking was if we used this approach, surely these two articles would be merged also:
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	As I see it they were two totally different shows, even the types of episodes were different - in the HB version they just traveled in time whereas in the DiC version they went into space, into books, etc.
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	Clearly this is just my opinion on things, and as I mentioned, I created the pages, so I am by no means objective about this, but I would appreciate your consideration on this.
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	:Series often have different production companies behind the scenes, and animated series change casts all the time. When I looked at things, I noticed that both the IMDB and the Bill & Ted official website considered them to be one series. The official site was the clincher - if an official entity calls it one, not two, then I think the case for separate series is shot down. ] (]) 14:07, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
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	I have not violated any copyrights so why do u User talk:TheRealFennShysa always edit
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	my contributions that I have made to George Lucas page ? please email me at bdarazs@rocketmail.com
	:Why? Because what you've been adding is original research, largely incorrect, poorly formatted, and frankly unnecessary. ] (]) 13:43, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
	here is my source (]) :http://www.bestwebbuys.com/George_Lucas-mcid_2115371.html?isrc=b-authorsearch. Their is a webmaster getting back to me about my permission if I can use this source.
	Star Wars, Episode VI Return of the Jedi -by George Lucas Paperback, Dark Horse Comics (April 2008)
	But to show that I am trying to make my contributions on wiki I am learning how to use this site more.This is and accurate source and cite so tell me if that is wrong or not when u check out the link I just put up there. ] (]) 06:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)User Bear620 (talk)] (]) 06:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

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	Please see if you can lend your assistance here as a neutral party at http://en.wikipedia.org/Edward_Kramer. I have to no avail. And received a warning for it.

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	I have contributed to the topic about me on the Wikiquette board and i have apologized for calling you an idiot, but you deleted it. I didn't mean for the incident to spiral into edit warring and is now being discussed on LXG's discussion page. I do feel we can work this out and hopefully help each other out with the improvement of the project like i've been doing with the Notable Deaths sections of 2003-2007. Please express concerns about my actions on my talk page and i will work to improve on them. Please accept this apology. '']'' (]) 22:22 11 February 2011 (UTC)

	== Star Wars Episodes ==

	I have noticed in the past that you tend to revert references to the two films ''The Empire Strikes Back'', and ''The Return of the Jedi'', as being released under those titles. You appear to have the point of view that the actual titles of those films included ''Episode'', at time of release. My question for you is; Do you have a reliable source for this, or are you solely relying on each pictures "in movie" scroll for this information.--] (]) 17:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
	:The films themselves are the reference - both ''Empire'' and ''Jedi'' included the episode number and name in the crawl on their original release - but if you wanted to get really picky about it, the films were never marketed simply as ''The Empire Strikes Back'' or ''Return of the Jedi'' either, as both of them had ''Star Wars'' as part of their logo... However, if you need a cite, there's a ''Time'' magazine cite from May 1980 (dont' have it handy, but it's probably already on one of the pages) which specifically addresses "Episode V" showing up in ''Empire''.... ] (]) 17:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
	::I have found ample citations referring to the movies, marketed and otherwise, as simply ''Return of the Jedi'' and ''Empire Strikes Back''. I have also seen the article from 1980 and its only reference to "Episode" in it, is that it will be included in the opening scroll, but not that the movie will be titled as Episode V. So are there any good reliable sources stating that the films were actually released with the Episode in the title, because I haven't seen any.--] (]) 17:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
	:::The ''Time'' reference specifically states: ''"...the movie is identified as Episode V. Since it is the immediate sequel to the original Star Wars, that opus has been retitled Star Wars: Episode IV, raising a meteor shower of questions."'' Being in the crawl makes it part of the title.... "Star Wars", the the episode number, then the subtitle... this is a standard naming convention. ] (]) 18:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
	::::Well your right it does say that. I must have seen another source. How does this single source trump, however, the hundreds of thousands of other sources, including George Lucas himself, that say the complete opposite?--] (]) 18:09, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

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