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To whoever left the insulting message on my talkpage, unsigned -- that was rude and cruel. Call me an alien if you want, but don't throw misogynistic slurs my way. ] (]) 09:35, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
==scores==
sorry zora if i offended u. it wasn't a part of a rani mukerji campaign but i thought since for hollywood actresses, they are accounted for their oscars maybe it wud be best if bollywood actors would be better off with filmfare success. you don't like the idea so i stopped. sorry!


==Rani Mukerji== ==Please come back==
Hi Zora. The Bollyeood project on here has ground to a halt. We no longer have editors like you and Pa7 around to improve content like we used to. BollywoodDreamz has little time for wikipedia anymore with uni committments and a lot of Shahid's time is spent reverting stupid edits and fighting silly editors. Please consider returning and restoring order once again. We could hhonestly do with several hundred Zoras to keep the project in order and to improve the quality of content. Regards.<span style="border:2px solid #C5B358 ;padding:0px;">]</span><sup>]</sup> 12:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
I knew i would find a source where they call Rani the QUEEN OF HEARTS. Actually, whenever they interview her, they call her the QUEEN OF HEARTS which was referred to Sridevi in her days. Aishwarya Rai is called the Queen Of Bollywood and so is Rani Mukerji again. It's a bit confusing. But usually they call her Queen of Hearts as she is a very nice person. Here's the source:
:I second that. I think you were an amazing editor, and one of my favourite. I'm really sorry if you consider me as one of those "loons or ignorant POV-pushing fanatics". I'm not a nationalist, I never was. I'm willing to learn, but in this particular case, I just respectfully disagree. Anupam in fact contacted you to have you back on here to reinforce his POV. I still appreciate you for the efforts. ] • <sup>'']''</sup> 20:31, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
By the way, Zora, i found another new fact, Rani didn't change her last name bcoz of numerological reasons but because ‘Mukerji’ is the name on her passport and birth certificate. Here's the source for that: Read the whole interview and find it for yourself. Thanks for your time. You rock!


==DID Edits== ==Warning==
Zora, please do not change articles until consensus is reached. Do not use sections on which you add information to deviously add your POV. No colloquial register. The language of the films is Hindi and people watch them because of the similarity between the languages and because Urdu words have been used from time to time.. If you do it again, I'll request admin help. Thanks, ] • <sup>'']''</sup> 10:30, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for giving me feedback on my discussion. I tried to look at the history page and got completely confused (I'm new). It seemed from the discussion that people were confusing the concept of the disorder (a group of symptoms that appear together and impair functioning)with the idea of causation. Hence the "DID is caused by abuse -- I was abused and I have DID" vs. "I have DID, too, and I wasn't abused so it can't be caused by abuse" argument, which seems to have nothing to do about whether or not people's symptoms are genuine. I'm somewhat of a subscriber to the iatrogenic-socialization theory myself, in the sense that people in the US with certain therapists tend to use DID/MPD as a way to describe the symptoms of the distress they're feeling. It's real distress, the question is just what construct you use to describe it -- if you're a victim of war, you're told it's PTSD; if you're a victim of child abuse and/or you go to certain therapists, you're told it's MPD/DID. So could people agree that there is a specific set of symptoms that is labelled DID? And then discuss theories of causation and appropriate therapies? Or is that too POV?] 02:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)


== so... ==
==Thank you for your efforts.==


how are you doing? It's been such a long time I don't think you even remember who I am :). Last time we talked, you were very stressed...thatdoesn't seem to have changed. Hope all is well with you. ] (]) 21:43, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I for one thank you for your efforts in sticking with the Rajput page and although a lot of baseless unpleasantries were focussed on you by the extremist Hindus, I am sure the real Hindu brothers and sister on Misplaced Pages saw through the real genuine effort you displayed in trying to resolve this difficult issue. The arbitration is over and Im glad the result was seen for what it was, a bunch of childish bigots not prepared to work with others for the betterment of enlightening others on our culture and traditions. Unfortunately, I think Rajputs are now seen more as a quarelling bunch rather than what we try and say we are, lol. In fact I think this is an example of whats been going on between Rajputs for the past few centuries, they never unite and probably never will.
==Talkback==
Saw your edit after adding the talkback message—better...--] (]) 18:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)


yes, Zora, you're sorely missed, especially for Islam-related articles, where it's quite difficult to find un-emotional, serious editing. All the best ] (]) 08:29, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Thank you once again and keep up the good work friend. :) Raja


== Bollywood ==
:Zora, your efforts as always are appreciated and I can only thank you for your troubles. I have done some language cleaning up which I believe was very unencyclopedic such as 'treacheerously' and 'crushed' etc which I believe was left over from the previous 'editors'. I want to keep the feel of this article essentially Hindu which I dont/havent disputed, just that the reference to Muslim Rajputs be mentioned fairly and without bias or agenda that they do exist and still retain their ancetral pride and zeal. It took an arbcom to have this seen,lol! --] 22:38, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


Zora, please assume good faith and do not revert editors who are much more experienced than you are. If you are reverting something which has been protested by someone else, kindly discuss on the talk page first, and then edit.
==The Battle of Karbala==


Secondly, mention of other specific film industries is NOT relevant in the lead of this article. This article is about Hindi cinema, not Telugu, not Marathi and not Tamil. If people want to know what the other parts of Indian cinema are, they can refer to that page. Also, the user mentioned only several industries, while there are much, much more. We are not here to make choices. If you wanna add something, then rephrase it first, do not leave it for others to fix.
Okay Zora I agree but according to Shias there were only 72 people with imam hussain but I am naming atleast 100 people. I you want u can move around all hundred names but please do not delete them. You can format anyway you want but please do not delete them. Thank You!


You did not even check what the user added and where he added it. He actually inserted his text within a footnote, which is a very wrong format. Next time please check before reverting.
==Links in Prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) article==


For now, I added a short clause which makes the sentence clearer. If you think you can rephrase it in a better way, that would be great. ] • <sup>'']''</sup> 14:24, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
I must confess that I am now totally disappointed with wikipedia, with its inconsistancies and biases. Earlier, I had some hope in its success as a useful intellectual resource but now I feel that specially in reference to Muslims its only a new orientalist instrument. On one hand you are preaching me the manners of references, on the other hand when I asked you to check wiki/israel for 'Annotated list of Israeli media sources' which contains references to other languages resources, your consciounce didn't stir. Similarly, by only looking at the head lines one can guess the so called non-sectarian or unbiased pearls of wisdom. Anyway, I no longer want to deal with wikipedia and beleive that as Muslims we don't need its reference concerning Islamic articles. Thanks(] 08:19, 18 February 2006 (UTC))


:That certainly was not my meaning, and if you felt so, I apologise. I do not own the article and I think not even once have I ever shown such intents. First, I never "ordered" anything. Second, I did not ask you to consult me but use the talk page. Thirdly, I said that because your revert was totally inappropriate and insulting. You just restored a text which was placed within a footnote, that's improper formatting, and you should have checked it before. The first thing anyone would conclude from that is that you are not assuming good faith on them and reverting them just for the sake of reverting specifically their edits.
==Islam and veneration for Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)==
:I am aware of all the incidents you had to go through, and I've actually felt the same when people like you indirectly accused me of being a nationalist, while I'm not. My religion is none of anyone else's business. I like editing and improving articles, not fighting over scripts, but I had an opinion, I still hold it, and several intelligent editors share the same view. When I joined Misplaced Pages, I appreciated your hard work, though frankly I recently got very disappointed by your attitude towards me, which includes being occasionally rude and mostly assuming bad faith on my part. I cannot accept that. That made me understand why many people did not get along with you at the time. Previously I used to think there was something wrong with them, not with you. But now...
:Just like you tell me of your previous hard work, I collaborated with many editors who always expressed their appreciation, even those you used to interact with back in time, such as Plumcouch, Pa7, Grenavitar, etc., perhaps with the exception of Shez 15, who is no longer active, and it doesn't really matter now.
:If you're back, then good for you, but I somehow feel you were constantly angry not only then, but now too. That's not how it should be on WP, you must have fun, otherwise this place is not for you (I'm not referring to you specifically but to the whole breed of WP editors).
:Anyway, there is a new clause in the article which I think is very good, so this topic should be probably closed. ] • <sup>'']''</sup> 19:38, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


Certainly Iqbal is dear to me, so is he to all the muslim world. As countless poets have praised prophet (pbuh), similarly counless people have written biographies of Prophet (pbuh). Why references from only two? Or why only a handful so called "non-sectarian" links. Please, do as you wish and be happy. I should get going and don't want to disturb your concentration.(] 08:38, 18 February 2006 (UTC))


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] and I just watched this today. Thanks for the suggestion.. first Tamil movie I've seen (I think). All the others have been Hindi. In any case, I quite enjoyed it. Not as good as Devdas (2002) but good. Thanks for the recommendation... we started to watch ] but the VHS quality in our library was horrible... so, I'm going to try to find the DVD. ] ] <sup>]</sup> 23:55, 18 February 2006 (UTC)


== Bollywood scratch pad ==
==STOP ERASING MY WORK FROM THE BATTLE OF KARBALA==
ZORA, PLEASSEEE STOP ERASING MY WORK FROM THE BATTLE OF KARBALA IT TOOK ME A LOT OF TIME TO DO IT. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT, I AM TALKING ABOUT THE NAMES OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO SCARIFIED THEIR LIVES FOR IMAM HUSSAIN! I THINK I KNOW ABOUT THESE THINGS MORE THEN YOU, OK N THERE R OTHER ARTICLES THAT U CAN EDIT IF U LIKE TO. THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING!


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I understand much better now. If I could figure out how to award you a hand-dyed alpaca lace star, I would. ] 05:10, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


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== Aishwarya Picture from Devdas ==
==Talkback==
{{talkback|Talk:Hadith |Hadith as Scripture|ts=20:09, 18 September 2010 (UTC)}}
==Talkback==
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== Hadith ==
Hi, Zora. :) About that Ash-Picture which is distorted: I checked it and it looked completely fine to me. Not really print quality, but okay, sooooo ... this may sound a little bit weird, but what do you see when looking at it? I see her in her blue saree from Devdas sitting on a chair. The large version of it is a tiny mit pixel-ish, but quite fine and the small pic of it in the article itself is absolutely okay. --] 00:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


I see that it has been which looking at the history for today is a good idea. ], waits for audience ], not a ]. 14:55, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
::Elongated as in "stretched"? (You see English's not my first tongue as you have probably noticed). We *are* talking about this pic of her, right? --> I mean it's not perfect (see certain parts of the background), but one can see and identify her, right? And I used CTRL-F5 to load the newest version of it after emptying my cache and it still looking fine. I uploaded it this afternoon after that Dell-guy vandalized it and it's the same Devdas-picture that has been in the article earlier. --] 00:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Semi-protected as well. Would have been quicker but I got logged out as I went from my talk page to the hadith page. ], waits for audience ], not a ]. 07:34, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
::I've semi-protected it for a week. ] (]) 00:12, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


== references ==
:::If it looks okay to you, too, I'm going to add it again. Maybe it's a Wiki problem, dunno. --] 00:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


No problem: I am just happy that someone is adding refs at all! ] <span style="color:green">||</span> ] 23:11, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
== Legal threats ==


== Re:Muwatta ==
I didn't issue a legal threat. I made a statement that comments by Zeraeph and JenniSue were bordering on liable. That's not a threat. --] 00:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


{{Talkback|Shaad lko|Muwatta|ts=04:36, 4 June 2011 (UTC)}}
:Liablous statements and legal liable are two different things. I thought you were a wordsmith? --] 00:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


==Histiography and nationlism==
== Ali Article ==
might be a good idea to include http://inventionofthejewishpeople.com/ or rather the work covering the creation of the jewish nation and histiography. ] (]) 01:25, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


: Not opening another front in the Israeli-Palestinian wars. No way. ] (]) 04:58, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Zora,


==Welcome back==
The sentence "Nowadays, Ali's legacy of courage and valor lives on with Muslims, naming Pakistan's top military award of courage and valor as 'Medal of the Lion' (Pakistani: '']'')" is a truth. Muslims concede this. Whether Ali was courageous or not is another story. Of course, Muslims love to praise (and sometimes exaggerate about) their beloveds. I don’t care if this passage is added to the article or not. But be sure that “Pakistan's top military award” is just one simple example. One can show you a huge list of such things. Good night --] 02:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


=) ] (]) 21:14, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
: Oops, '']'' may be an exception. But in general what I said is true I think.--] 02:14, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
: Better to say "Nowadays, Ali's legacy of courage and valor lives on with Muslims" is true :D --] 02:17, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


== You're being quoted ==


Hi. This is just a courtesy note to let you know you made five years ago has been quoted in the current discussion at . --] (]) 13:22, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
==Quoting Iqbal==


== Warning ==
Thanks for your concern. I didn't only quote Iqbal, but also Saadi and Al-Busiri to show that a whole mode of poetry exists to praise Prophet Muhammad's (pbuh). The quotations are from a translation of Iqbal's work and is available for research purpose without copyright protection. And its historical text which for quotation purposes don't require copyrights. These books were published in 1920s --] 04:05, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
* I don't see how quoting one or two verses make it a copy right voilation, if this is the case then perhaps every history or scholarly work is illegal. We quote people and give references. This is the whole idea of citing references. If this is not the case there wouldn't have been any education at all. --] 11:21, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
** You were right. Actually I took your comment that I am determined to quote Iqbal's poetry a little seriously. It is true that I am his fan but this was not my base to quote him. He was unarguably the greatest Muslim poet and philosopher of the 20th centuary and thus was most relevent for the purpose. I will check with Iqbal Academy if his books and the translations could be made available at wikisource. But the problem with this is that what if we quote from wiki source and thing is not there :-) --] 11:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
*** One could indeed argue that he ISN'T the greatest poet and philosopher. That's your belief, not a fact accepted by all people. Suppose I think that Fazlur Rahman is the greatest philosopher? ] 12:47, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
*** Sure, we can't convince people to accept facts. Its freedom of expression. If some one beleives that Canda is in Africa, what can you do about it? He might tell you some interesting geophysical theories about the validity of his arguments. --] 14:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
*** I think its fuitless to discuss this issue any further. I am hungry let me get some Tandori Chicken. --] 15:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
*** Oh by the way, you seem to enjoy reading, this is the poem for today Mosque of Cordova . Its a translation from Bali-i-Jibril. --] 15:31, 22 February 2006 (UTC)


Zora, your reversal of my edits, which go in accordance with policy, is completely unacceptable, and more so the rude way in which you have done it, which I'm not going to tolerate any longer. Stop thinking that your opinion matters the most, and before giving support to such claims as "enormous film empire" and "Stars, rather than plots, were often the driving force behind the films", and a whole unsourced block of original research, read ] and ] and kindly familiarise yourself with the process of Misplaced Pages editing. The introduction has been this way for years, if you want to change it then discuss. And your constant assertions that Bollywood is not the Hindi film industry do not make much sense unless you can prove reality is wrong.
== OpenIslampedia ==


Yes, the first thing that a reader should see is indeed the language of a film industry (particularly when it comes to India, in which every film industry is sorted by language, basically), and the ''lingua franca'' of Bollywood is Hindi, as it is mentioned in possibly every Indian film article, and almost every source on the article. The use of Urdu is mentioned perfectly, its use has been fading, and today most films do not even have Urdu scripts in the opening credits. "Encyclopaedia of Hindi cinema", the largest book written about this film industry, published by Britannica and written by the likes of Gulzar, as well as numerous other books which you can see on the net, acknowledge Bollywood as Hindi cinema, and this is how it has been known for years. Film certificates, too, mention Hindi as the language of Bollywood films, and the term Bollywood in indeed informal (and mind you, it is a ''term'' used to refer to the industry, not the industry itself).
Salams/Greetings,


Your attempts to erase them border on vandalism, and your penchant to accuse others of nationalism will not be taken lightly. Your insistence to see everything as negative and think that everyone is based on national grounds is of least interest to me. I'm not here to serve your agenda, and do not expect me, or anyone else, for that matter, to follow your personal preferences. Want to start another long discussion? Do it! But please do cite sources (which you never do, because everything you say is right, isn't it?) and do not feel you own Misplaced Pages because you do NOT.
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Next time you revert, I will report you on ANI. Instead of dictating, enforcing your biased views, and coming here from time to time only to revert someone, I suggest you to contribute to the project by trying to improve it. I personally am trying to do it every day. Enough is enough. ] • <sup>'']''</sup> 22:12, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Your ] nomination of ]==
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The article ] you nominated as a ] has passed ]; see ] for comments about the article. Well done! There is a backlog of articles waiting for review, why not help out and ] yourself? ]]]] 08:47, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
== Imitation is the highest form of flattery ==


== A barnstar for you! ==
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Hi Zora,
How are you doing?
I have a request.
I would be thankful if you allow me to quote your beautiful law somewhere: "There is no belief so pure or so rational that it can't be degraded into utter nonsense by fuggheaded supporters".
Thanks --] 06:19, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your ] or on ].
: I would be grateful if you could ask. I really liked the law. THANK YOU SO MUCH. --] 09:15, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


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Hi Zora this refers to article ] & Imam ].


::I noticed your message on the talk page of the article. I was the one who proposed its deletion. Since I used the PROD (PROposed Deletion) method, you can object to the proposed deletion. Since it is a PROD, simply delete the tag from the top of the article to object and cancel the deletion process. (Note that this only applies with a PROD, not a nomination into Articles for Deletion). --] (]) 15:24, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
I edited both pages with text that Nishan-e-Hayder is associated with Imam Ali but it was removed.
i dont think so that i have done something wrong or misguided the people. This is fact.
Of course with out any doubt Nishan-e-Hayder is assiociated with Imam Ali. T
The word 'Hayder' is one of the name of Imam Ali. His mother Fatima binte Asad named him Hayder which means Lion.


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== Indian Cinema Task Force in the ''Signpost'' ==


The WikiProject Report would like to focus on the Indian Cinema Task Force for a ''Signpost'' article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, ''']'''. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -] (]) 16:48, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Please take notice and do the required so that proper definition is made over wikipedia.
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== Bukhari link ==
== Looks like I haven't given you a barnstar yet ==


Zora,
{{award2|image=Barnstar2.png|size=100px|topic=The Editor's Barnstar|text=So here it is, in recognition of tireless editing, fairness and righteous anger on Islam-related articles. The first I have ever given, by the way ;) ] | ] 18:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)}}
I saw you removed the link I added for a translation of Sahih al-Bukhari. In defense of putting it back up:


# The current and only link for Sahih al-Bukhari is down and has been down a while
== Jamshid ==
# The current translation is missing a lot of hadith and has a lot of typos, and every single hadith (except the first two) have the wrong reference numbers.
# Sunnah.com is not a "religious" site, i.e. there is no preaching going on. It just has translations.
# The translator for both is actually the same - the version on sunnah.com has just been cleaned up more is all.


] (]) 18:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
apologies for my accidental deletion of the link to ]. It was a copy-paste oversight. Sorry again. - ] 08:14, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


== Reply on your review at ] ]. ==
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Thanks, for your elaborate review on the templates. ( Detailed reply is on my ] ). -- ] (]) 09:35, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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Zora, I was not implying that collecting hadith was unique to Shi'a. Please re-read my edit. However I do believe the phenomenon of compiling 100+ volume compilations that are in common circulation in the post-mediaeval period is uniquely Shi'i.
Greetings! You recently helped get the ] article featured - thanks! I wanted to make you aware that I have ] out on several other articles pertinent to Muslim history: ], ], ], ], ], and, tangentially, ]. All these articles are in relatively good condition, but just need a little push to get them featured. A total of $130 is on the line. Are you up for it? &ndash; ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 13:53, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


Currently the article implies that Shi'a only use 4 hadith books which is not true.
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I agree to your proposed changes to ] page. You can delete the existing info in that page. You should point to ] page.
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If you feel that I stated it in a misleading manner, why don't you edit what I wrote to make it clearer instead of just deleting it.
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== Hadith - reply ==
==Demographics of Islam==


With respect, I am a specialist in this area, and speaking from the perspective of knowledge of the subject area. I also referenced my additions. Your comment "I am sure that..." suggests that you are not specialized in this subject field.
:I simply re-instated the template which says that the content of the page is not supported by the references. And it's true. I have made my position very clear on the talk page - the facts reported are simply not verifiable and are very misleading. I hope to address each of your particular points '''later''', and work towards a constructive resolution to the serious problems the article faces. I've already made my initial suggestion on the talk page. In the meantime ''you'' have failed to address any of the points I have made about ] and POV. I asked you to provide a source for the 103 countries whose Muslim populations the article says are constituted entirely (to the person) of Sunnis. You haven't because you can't. This breaks a fundamental policy of this encyclopedia. I'll also ask, does the lack of a mention a figure for Sunni constitute a fact? -- ] <sup>]</sup> 13:03, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


I was doing my bit to improve the article which was clearly not appreciated.
: Yes, it does. If the CIA World Factbook says that (just to make up a case) the population of a country is 72% Roman Catholic, 23% various Protestant, and and 3% Jewish, there's no reason to believe that there's some huge population of Hindus that the Factbook is covering up. If it says that the population of Algeria is 99% Sunni Muslim (I just looked this up), then there's no reason to suspect those figures.


Anyway...I am not going to sit here and fight over the page because I have better things to do, however in the future I would request that you take the time to investigate the subject area deeply before making revisions on things just based on your personal intuition.
: That's why I suggested rounding off the figures, so that it's clear that they're exact only to the nearest (whatever) and that groups with less than that (whatever) are going to appear nonexistent. That's why we explicitly have that caveat about the Shi'a being undercounted -- if there are minorities in every country that are too small to appear in the "by country" statistics, overall they might add up to another percentage point. ] 17:50, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


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hi i want to invite you on to edit and watch edits going on barelvi and related articles.there is a serious wahabi pov push is going on this article including change of words modification of sentences.effort to show this movement in bad light.
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==Bukhari teachings==
I'm sorry, but can you enlighten me as to which different individuals governance passed to after the Commitee of Safety? Is there a differnt roll call for the Commitee of Safety, Provisional Government, and Republic of Hawaii? Also, can you tell me why including the fact that the same people that instigated the Bayonet Constitution overthrew the Queen isn't pertinent? If you insist on keeping the current version, I'll have to insist on a complete revision of the paragraph. Jerekrischel insists on detailing the events, I maintain that the events shouldn't be on the page to begin with. Perhaps a rough allusion to the overthrow as under "questionable circumstances" will cure the neutrality issue. Also, since you're claiming that I'm the one with the POV issue, which majority of the islands was discontented with the Monarchy? With the Ku'e petitions that rules out the majority of Hawaiians. The constitution that Liliuokalani was overthrown for wasn't exactly kind to asian rights, which by logic, would exclude the asian majority. So who's left? The europeans? The white settlers? ] 02:18, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
It wasn't my intent for that to be the only teaching, it's just one I came across, I figure there are ways to present the more important or controversial ones of note. Since it refers to the specific passage I figure it wasn't implying to represent the entire content. ] (]) 01:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:It's not exactly just my own POV, the whole way I came across this was because of reading about it multiple reasons on various discussions about it. Anyway I don't see how it's PoV to pick one out, we can pick others out too and add them, if they're interesting, but still has to begin 1 at a time. If we never reproduce 1 line alone, we'd have to introduce many in one fell swoop and that's kinda hard.
:Anyway why should we only be presenting what so-called "scholars" choose to look at versus what they ignore? Who establishes their reliability? What establishes their opinions as notable? Degrees from institutions which are notable because... ? ] (]) 03:43, 13 June 2013 (UTC)


I guess I'm also concerned about neutrality, assuming they know more from having studied more, doesn't mean what they know will be presented. The issue here isn't even what it says, I already provided a reference (from the database we link at the bottom) showing it says that, just whether or not it should be highlighted. If we have already established enough notability of issues concerning Islam and LGBT for it to have its own page, wouldn't that establish the topic as notable enough to post any hadith phrases pertaining to the issue?
:Yes, there was a different roll call between the Commitee of Safety (13 members), the Provisional Government (including Dole who was not a part of the Committee of Saftey), and the Republic of Hawaii. The Provisional Government included an advisory council that the Commitee of Safety did not, and the Republic of Hawaii also had changes in positions, roles and people (although Dole remained President). --] 03:30, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


If not on the Bukhari page itself, would it warrant mentioning on the IaL article then? ] (]) 06:16, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
::Ok, It just seems like you're stretching a point. The basic structure of members did not change in order to justify the phrase "change of hands". In effect, there was no "change of hands", just a gradual change in names to solidify recognition with the US.] 03:55, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


==Contact request regarding Xango==
:::Uhh, ok. Do I need to cite NPOV documentation? According to the NPOV rules that assertion is opinion based and should be backed up with credible references. If you fail to cite references, I will push the issue. ] 09:31, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello, Zora. I remember you from the Xango page edits. I am interested in talking with you regarding Xango. Do you think there could be a chance?


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:Thank you for the reference. I'll thank you ahead of time to include it in the context of the text as Mr. Dawes is a controversial author.


::While I haven't made up my mind on Mr. Daws, there are others that believe him to be controversial. If you want a specific answer, I'll inquire for you. However, I still think it prudent to cite the source of any adverse views, one way or the other. Case in point, would you mind if I quoted Trask or some other radical and tried to pass it off as fact, all without citing it? BTW, I'm sorry for my edit summary. I wrote it before I saw your reference. ] 10:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


==Succession to Muhammad Page==
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Hi Zora
Yeah, I blocked the IP for 48 hours, too. You might want to check his recent contribs, as he made a slough of edits to articles before. I'm fine, except that I apparently managed to spend hours on Misplaced Pages today, and totally neglected ]. Ugh. Off to bed with me. :) ]·] 09:00, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that you have been involved with the ] page. I added some content into the ] page but Kazemita1 keeps on removing it citing copy right violation even though I gave the references and the whole page is already full of quotes from various books. I want to avoid an edit war. I want to improve Misplaced Pages so that it contains researched scholarly content, that is useful to the readers. This whole article is full of people pushing their opinions. There needs to be a critical analysis of the content on this page. Various books have been written on this issues through out the ages and this content needs to be put into a table so that people could compare what was said when and by whom and why. Thanks --]


== Hawaii edit-a-thon! ==
: zora really i do not know how big ur ass is but the term rafidi came more than 100 yrs after the dead if imam Ali so why u lie a big lie like this and salafi themselfs was not able to proof it so be a nice salafi and learn how to play nice ,, regarding nasibi it is the prophet who told that who hate imam Ali is nasibi so shake the ass baby and play nice --] 12:27, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


Hello. I'm interested in attempting to put together an edit-a-thon for Hawaiian cultural topics something during the ] festival perhaps around the month of November. The hope is that our lackluster coverage of Hawaiian mythology could be improved with help from the ], ], and the Honolulu public library. I am in the process of making initial contacts with these organizations as well as Wikimedia DC's GLAM project. If this sounds like something you might be interested in participating in, or perhaps helping to coordinate, could you please add your name to ]?--v/r - ]] 21:24, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
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Actually, I was willing to work with you all. I was the one that suggested the information on the overthrow be kept to a minimum so as not to stray too far off topic. I've suggested to you and Jere that we keep that portion short of details. However, if you two insist on maintaining the current article, I feel compelled to explain certain nuances. I'm all for a complete revision of the paragraph in question.] 10:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


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Aloha!
Just a barrage of questions you may or may not be able to answer:


# Have you heard anything else about DP updating the old classics which are for now mostly only in ugly text?
# How come there are so few Islam-related texts on Gutenberg (and thus so few coming through DP)? Same goes for religion texts.
# How can that change?
# How come Gutenberg doesn't display edition numbers, ISBN, or LOC # for many of its texts? You can search per LOC section... but not the specific LOC number for the book--that isn't displayed. Some show the edition inside the text itself. (I know you said the older ones didn't do this so much).
# Is there a better resource than Gutenberg at the present time? That's more methodic, perhaps, in its organization?


Last summer I moved to the Seattle area after 14 years in Kailua on Oahu. I immediately fell in with the as it formed, joined its board and became its first president as well as the ] representative for Washington State.
I think that's all? I really should do more with DP since wiki is semi-fruitless but the work you do preserving texts keeps them in a readable format... if not forever, well, at least for the forseeable future. ] ] 04:08, 28 February 2006 (UTC)


Recently, Adriel Luis, Curator (Digital & Emerging Media) at the , contacted me about setting up an ] like the previous ] edit-a-thon. In addition to discussing one for Seattle, he wrote:
:That dang Michael Hart. The metadata seems pretty important to me. He hasn't struck a compromise in allowing that data but also preserving it in simple ASCII? Apparently not. I might go to the DP boards and try to see what's going on.


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:I saw something by Edward Sell in P2, that's a good sign. DP-EU has a lot of crazy stuff going on. I have not so eloquently been trying to get some work done on the Lane Lexicon on their forums. They said "e'll see what will be the easiest way to do this, but we're definitely doing it!" That seems like a good sign but I don't know what they're doing about it... or what I should be doing about it to make them do something about it. I'm quite the newbie when it comes to DP process and think I'd likely only be useful in P1 gruntwork. Which, I don't mind so much.


As I was working two jobs while I lived on Oahu, I did not have the opportunity to meet your or any other Wikipedians at the time. Hence, the reason why I am contacting you now.
:There are some really great books like ''Topsy-Turvy Land: Arabia Pictured for Children'' which has tons of nice old pictures that could be used for Wiki. I want to see more of that kind of thing. If some good Arabic speakers (or at least Arabic script readers) got involved then all of the great old Persian/Arabic/Urdu works could be preserved or, probably more importantly in the short term, accessible. The new html books are actually readable online which is nice... the old ASCII texts are a quite a struggle.


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That vandal appears to be working from an open proxy which makes it difficult. I checked through his contribs again and I think I got a few more that others didn't get. Just add something to my talk page if you ever seen any more like that and I'll take a look and see if it all merits blocking or reverting or whatnot. Thanks.
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I saw a really interesting thread about and it linked to a page that linked to . That is really neat that they can do projects like that. I am quite a fan. It seems they have a ton of content provided so that looking into things from that end is superfluous unless something is specifically needed. Then again, since I was reading a thread about the weak Islamic output maybe some old books on that are needed. There are only 7 books from LOC category BP! Which is really surprising. ] ] 07:01, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
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It'd be something to get on http://english.aljazeera.net/ but http://www.aljazeerah.info/ made me feel special enough :O Hope you didn't mind me using your username (well--I didn't expect he was going to publish it). I have to give him a follow up. He got to ] after Itold him that ] wasn't proper. However he didn't see ] which is a lot more than the 13 words he gave us credit for. I won't vouch for their quality though. The only thing I remember about that article was an edit war a while back. It is difficult to try to get my point across. Having that kind of belief to the exclusion of everything else might not be the best thing. He calls Misplaced Pages "a tool for expediting the clash of civilizations" and he may be right... but, it'd only do that to those who can't take their ideologies cast in doubt. I'm not really sure what would be the ideal encyclopedia to him. ] ] 08:58, 28 February 2006 (UTC)


Your neutral opinion on the content dispute currently on-going at ] and ] will be appreciated. The discussion thread is at: ]. The main issue is the material sourced from ]'s paper, sourced from JSTOR, but is also available at: http://www.globalwebpost.com/farooqm/study_res/islam/fiqh/hallaq_hadith.html
:Google Print harvesting is very exciting. for full text books between 1200 and 1920 on Islam yields tons of interseting results. Like Zwemer's "Childhood in the Moslem World" since it has nice pictures (although there are some gaps with pages). There is no dirth to the sources for DP now it seems.... which is really cool since some of the formts they're coming in as are almost unreadable. So, they really do need a DP-like process to make them useful e-books. Just rambling--it's kind of exciting since I think having a lot of good stuff in the public domain is nice. Like archive.org having full feature films is a really cool step--I can see some of the classics now even though the copyright extension act means nothing new is coming into the public domain. ] ] 21:02, 28 February 2006 (UTC)


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Out of your list I've seen '']'' and '']'' so far. Both were good but the latter was much more unique to say the least. I should see '']'' at some point since it's on DVD at our library. '']'' and some of the ] stuff shouldn't be too hard to find... but, well, despite your recommendations I'm not so sure I know if I want to see some of that. My reasoning being: I saw '']'' which was a pretty good film... but it was horrible too... the characters were all very creepy in this odd subtle way... which, might have been the point but... I suppose I don't react so well to that type of movie. For Ang Lee '']'' was a great movie and the '']'' was not so great. I don't have much interest in '']'' for some reason... I think I may be equating it to '']'' which I saw in NYC a few years back. From what I've heard it seems like it's about being gay... which, really doesn't interest me in the least. If there's a reason I should see it tell me and I will at some point and tell you what I think. If not, tell me which of the Ang Lee I haven't seen you'd recommend. None of the others (and I've listed them ] btw) seem to be in my library or anywhere that I know. So, I'm not sure how I'll get around to seeing them--but they'll remain on my list. Thanks... as of now you're 2 for 2 :) ] ] 08:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


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Hey. I've been creating movie stub articles for these and I wanted your input. Here is my scheme:


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* ], general page about the story... like ] is about that story. Not specifically about the novel even though it camse first because I think the movies and the novel together share as all being important... the novel is not the most important of the works. I didn't make the main page a dab page because all of the story lines are similar (or so I hear) and the generalities and impact of Devdas as a whole concept can be discussed.
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::Umm, I read it and reverted... no source and horribly formatted and it didn't seem to be going in any direction. I also left something on the anon's talk page. I added to the talk page that a notable source is needed in any case. ] ] 07:51, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


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Hi! I did not make the edits on RDB synopsis.It was an anon user , I just added links (intra-wiki).You can check at the history.Do not jump at conclusion so quickly.
Thanks.--] 07:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
:Hi, that was a nice coincidence!! Well, do you think you really need to revert the whole edition by the anon?It contained NPoV language.But I think we could have retained poetions , or , at least modified.1 month has passed since the release.The story is known by this time.And now we can add a few more points perhaps! What do you think?--] 07:53, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
:: Yes! That was what I was proposing. Please start such a section.However, such a section has a potential to grow long.So only reviews from good and professional magazines should be included.We already have links to some reviews in the ''External links''.Choosing some remarks won't pose much problem.--] 08:09, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


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== Wives of prophet Muhammad. ==
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Good evening, regarding your post about our holy prophet Muhammad wives, Rayhana and Maria were not concubines, they were both married to the holy prophet legally and lawfully made for him by Almighty Allah, and Allah SWT grant the holy prophet to marry wives without bride price, so even umu Maria bore the holy prophet a child which he named after the father of faith, Ibrahim (Abraham) and the holy prophet love Ibrahim so much. So pls help correct that concubine statement please.
Unfortunately the ] won't seem to go away. Can you log into meta and add your comments ] to help lock down the issue with the least additional wasted time? Thanks. - ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 14:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks ] (]) 19:00, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
:You'll have to note that on the talk page on meta though. That's the only way to end the issue quickly it seems. - ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 16:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


== Discussion at ] ==
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:It looks like you fixed it! ] 06:29, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


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]Thanks Zora, it was a great gesture from your side, especially me being made the first recipient. In fact, I was thinking along the lines of getting one made, either by ] or ], but you beat me to it and how!! Thanks again, and at the risk of sounding repetitive, you may want to archive your talk. btw, you may be interested in having a look at ] and ] - all the more the reason you should be archiving your talk. --] 11:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:No, it is perfectly fine, I love it and I want it to be reatined that way - reminds me of all the colours of action, sentiment and romance in ] - simple but great idea, aided by brilliant execution. btw, I have added it in the topic-specific awards to ] - you may want to check it out. --] 11:16, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

==Linkspamming?==

Sorry, but what are You talking about? I do not sell anything - so what is commercial on this site ? Please explain.

Misplaced Pages is for all and everybody has the right to contribute to this encyclopedia not just for You personally, I guess.

So please be fair and show me what on that site is commercial.

Thanks

:If I want traffic to that site, I list it on search engines. Howewer, You can remove all my contributions and delete the account. It makes no fun to be a member on Misplaced Pages under this suppositions. I know I'm just a member and not a webmaster like You, but I guess this is not a indication to be considered as a good or a bad judge.
I'm sorry for the inconveniences and that I waste Your and my time. {{unsigned|Jen L.|01:13, 5 March 2006}}
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Sorry not to have replied before; I'd gone to bed. I can see from the above what the problem was. I'll check the current status, and if it hasn't been sorted out yet, I'll do what I can. --] (]) 10:52, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

:From Jen L.'s onctrinutions list, it seems to be OK now. Let me know if it flares up again. --] (]) 10:58, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


== Re:Women In Islam==
Hiya,

I am not denying the fact that there are imams who preach that men have the right to beat their wives (as much as they please) if they wish; I removed it because if we put that in there, then we also need to put every other imam’s, at every mosque, POV about the subject in the article. The article isn't an archive for what imams' view on the topic. If it were, the article should then include every interpretation of every view point for it to be fair and that is not what Wiki is about. Also, the sentence sounds very random and unprofessional in the sense that it is just a claim without proof. As you pointed out, not all imams represent what Islam really is. Since there is a lot of argument about the many aspects of the matter, I am not naïve enough to claim that there is one correct, final word about what the mufti's say about men beating their wives. The next best thing is to provide only the facts; not what some random imam preached in his sermon. After all, anyone can say anything that they wish at a sermon, and this should not be taken as the representation of the facts about the subject.

I hope this explains why I removed the sentence from the article and not simply for the sake of
sugar-coating the matter.

I apologise for the babbling ;). ] 19:32, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

== Morgan Report==
Hey Zora, me and M.ana have been working on ], and I was wondering if you could offer an opinion on how to lay out the controversies in an NPOV manner - I'm advocating a single section with each particular dispute, and he seems to like splitting it into "arguments for" and "arguments against". Since it's really "arguments against" and "rebuttals to arguments against", i'm not sure if that fits, but it may just be an issue of limited vocabulary on my part. Anyway, your opinion, and help in NPOV washing would be appreciated! --] 02:05, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== List of notable Muslim reports ==
It's a well-organized list, and not all the "reports" (]) linked therefrom are stubs, but quite a lot of them are, and their notability isn't established. "Such a minor branch of a subject that it doesn't deserve an article" would seem to apply IMO, possibly warranting merges, but what a big project that would be. Often the usual bad spelling and lack of categories. Adding scores of hadith when the articles on the collections of hadith and other important texts are mere stubs seems to me to be a grossly misplaced priority. Sigh. I see it had been up for AfD before. ] 08:37, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:I guess that makes sense in some twisted way. ;-) ] 18:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== Haydar ==

Looks like he is going to keep reverting, using his three per day, if need be. And if there are a bunch of us reverting against him, I'm sure he'll call upon the many Shi'a editors he always calls on when there is an AfD to help him revert. Perhaps you should use an article RfC, perhaps at ]. I don't think this would apply for ] as I've already been involved, as have a couple of other editors. ] 12:04, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== Wiki hell ==

Hey, I don't know about the issues with SouthernComfort but from a preliminary look it seems like there's definite reason to want to keep up a POV tag. ] is a dab page and I don't even have to really know about the content to know it should be short and sweet. ] ] 12:21, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== Thanx ==

Hi Zora, thanx for the barnster... ] 13:08, 06 March 2006 (UTC)

== Props ==
You know more about Islam than many Muslims do, and I don't doubt that you've spent a greater amount of time studying some topics than I have. For that, you have my props. lol ] 19:40, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

==Abraham ==

Zora, no one claims that he '''FOUNDED''' Christianity or Islam ( where did you read this????) its not in the bible and its not in the Qu'ran. He is claimed as an ancestor , but not as a '''founder''' of those religions. --] 05:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
: Ok Zora, which verse in the Qu'ran claims Abraham as the founder of Islam? And where in the new testament does it claim Abraham as the founder of Christianity. As for Luxenberg , my statement is based on English interviews he gave which I included in the article.--] 05:24, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
::Ok inspirational figure works for me .--] 05:38, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== My edits ==
re: My edits.

Zora, it is not preaching Islam. While Muhammad is known for his claim of prophethood, the aticle is silent on this issue. --] 07:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

: So, where should I add the Christian-Muslim debates? Thanks. --] 07:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

:: Thanks for your suggestion, I am thinking of something like ], something that one can find all the arguments made in order to support the prophethood of Muhammad. How is that? Thanks --] 08:36, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

::: I don't want to "prove" Muhammad's prophethood. I just want to write all the facts and opinion of the different sides of the debate. That's it. I am sure this will save the precious time of many researchers. When there is an article called "criticism of Islam"; there should be an article called "Defending Islam". What is wrong with this reasoning? --] 09:00, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

:::: :D Interesting story! But I am not satisfied with that article. My hands are tight up. By the way, several thick-skin non-muslim editors have joined me there. I want my own article :( What happens if I make my own article with the title "defense of Islam"? I will then be quite for awhile. :D --] 09:40, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

::::: Zora! If I make my own website, '''then I'll miss valuable feedback of Non-Muslims'''. Moreover, I have been a good boy so far. I think I deserve to have an article. By the way, this guy Abu-Lu'lu'ah doesn't deserve that I spend my time for :) I never heard any shia talk about him. --] 10:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::: Okay, fine! why are you beating me? I just wanted to serve people by gathering an unbiased source of information for them. Fine. Btw, never heard of Quaker meeting house. It seems weird and a bit funny that the Holy Spirit wants to speak through people. By the way, I think the flavor of Hinduism and Zen are different from Abrahamic religions. The only thing I know about Hinduism is that they believe in Reincarnation and are vegetarian. I have a question: Why people should become Hindu? What is the advantage? I am already a vegetarian and have troubles understanding reincarnation. Will I be doomed to hell if I don't believe in Hinduism? Thanks--] 10:23, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::: I am reading about ]. Seems we have a lot in common. --] 10:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== Perry's Article ==

The only source I cited was "Encyclopaedia Iranica".] 13:55, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

<hr>
The Perry writing was from a book by the title Le Monde Iranien et L'Islam, volume I. I made the WP edit back when I was at U of Tenn. I dont have access to their library now. (and I dont think it was even from their permanent collection). I had to go thru the ILL dept.

I bet however our library at Austin has the item, but I'm currently stuck with a tight schedule and I wont be going to the PCL building any time soon (at least until late May).

But I did a search on WorldCat. This is what I found:

The Banu Ka`b :
an ambitious brigand state in Khuzistan /
John R Perry

1971
English Book p. -152 : map ; 25 cm.
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Title: The Banu Ka`b :
an ambitious brigand state in Khuzistan /
Author(s): Perry, John R.
Publication: [Genève : Droz,
Year: 1971
Description: p. -152 : map ; 25 cm.
Language: English
SUBJECT(S)
Descriptor: Ka`b (Arab people) -- Iran -- History.
Geographic: Iran -- History -- 16th-18th centuries.
Khuzestan (Iran) -- History.
Note(s): Cover title./ Extract from: Le monde iranien et l'Islam, t. 1, 1971./ Includes bibliographical references.
Class Descriptors: LC: DS269.K25
Other Titles: Monde iranien et l'Islam.
Responsibility: John R. Perry.
Document Type: Book
Entry: 20010906
Update: 20010906
Accession No: OCLC: 47918613
Database: WorldCat

Hope that helps.--] 17:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Muhhamed Picture ==

Would you mind if I added a picture of Muhhamed made by Muslims (if any exists)? Also, Islam should not be imposed on all Misplaced Pages users. Not everybody knows Muhhamed's likeness.--]<sup><font style="background: #0000" face="Ariel" color="#00AA00">]</font></sup>]

==Rashad Khalifa criticism chop==
Hi Zora. I had hoped to just fix it up, but I couldn't work out what the 'pattern finding' refered to. Are you talking about his thing with the number 19? Also, my understanding of WP policy would require a 3rd party to link human pattern matching to R.K. , making the link would be considered OR. Keep up the good work anyway ! ] 04:36, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== Rv of Fatema Al Zahra (Sunni view)==
Hi!
How does the inclusion of the hadeeth in the Sunni view make it "reflect Shia POV"? I, personally, don't think it does since it's providing ''facts'' (the statement by Muhammed is recorded in Al-Bukhari) and not and opinion about anything. I only provided what is believed by Sunni Muslims and moved the text around a bit for grammatical purposes (if you read it closely you will find that little is change except the hadeeth). I'm not one to place a POV in an arictle, regardless of what side I follow, and I hope this isn't just a revert as to keep the original article for whatever purpose that would benefit. ] 06:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:No, the Sunni's do not just ignore the hadeeth. I should know, I am one, not that any of this should matter on Wiki. I doubt a Muslim can simply "ignore" a hadeeth (the idea seems a tad rediculous), we hold any hadeeth sahih in reverance (that's why we have 3 levels of ahadeeth, due to importance of each one). The hadeeth mentioned is one that is viewed by both Sunnis and Shias: they both believe that she was a very important woman and a role model to muslims women.

:And ...Umar (according to Shias), caused Fatima to miscarry her unborn child, there is no mention in the article of how Shias viewed him after he did that (whether they "ignored" his actions or what), so why would I downplay it in the Sunni side if a)Sunni's don't even believe the story happend and b)it wasn't even an issue for Shias.
:As far as I can see, there is nothing wrong with my inclusion of the hadeeth, and nothing that indicates a POV.
:All in all, please do not assume that every Muslim wikipedian is wanting to change the facts to make it suit what they believe. I believe that presenting the facts alone is all that is needed, no sugar-coating required. ] 07:14, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

::Okay, I moved the sentence about Sunni's not believing the story about Umar, etc. It wasn't intentional for me to give the impression that this is of little importance, so I guess moving it out of the parentheses will make it stand out. I do feel "weird" though since it makes a passing reference to the story without any explaination of what the story is. Also, I added "Sunni" next to scholars to make it clearer that Sunni's are the ones who disagreed on the location of her grave. Shiaa claim to know the exact location of her grave (I believe they think it's on a mountain in Medina). The hadeeth was added to show how Sunni's also believe that Fatima was an exceptional woman. Shiaa's aren't the only ones to feel that way, though they involve a lot of agruable methods in the way the revere her and her story, and that's where the debate begins. Also, Shiaa disregard a chunk of ahadeeth and usually stick only to the one narrated by Fatima or Ali, so adding it alone (since it's narrated by the Prophet) shows that it is a Sunni view. ] 16:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== Persian people ==

I had to revert as he archived while dispute was on going, feel free to add your 2 cents back in again, it looked like an interesting theory. However, you can't deny that it was never-and is not current used as referring to an ethnicity. Perhaps wrongly, but it has been the case mainly at the begining of the Persian Empire, and at Sassanid times and especially at and since Pahlavis, as I said in the text books at schools it is still referred to as an ethnicity and my friends have quoted Iranian history and Iranica to say that it is still used. However, yes perhaps it is used wrongly, but this isn't the case is it? if the main sources agree on the matter, then one or two small-scale genetic studies which were probably carried out on a few Iranians in America or something, do not really question it. These studies may refer to current genetics of central asia, but since the Persian empire controlled much of the central Asia at some points, then it is not really relevant to even suggest that this proved anything against the origins of Iranians as Indo-Europeans, etc. --] 12:05, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== DP Irc ==

Does DP have an IRC channel? I tried #dp and #eBooks on irc.freenode.net which both had 0 users... do you know? Thanks. ] ] 19:51, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

:Ah, thank you. Another question... how come some DP texts are still released without html versions? It's rare but I saw one the other day that wasn't math... I really need to understand the system better.... how much control to post processors have? ] ] 03:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

==Psst ==
I'm trying to build support for this nomination in its last few days. Please check out ]. Pass it along. Nudge nudge. -- ] 20:18, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
*I wanted to apologize for my last comment to which you took offense . You're right, I don't know you but I wa taken aback by the ] of your response. I have noticed that most of the people who make decisions about who gets awards are men, as are the recipients. I went to the userboxes to find who had publiclay identified as a woman to encourage them to support this nomination - the first wikihalo to go through the nomination process. Sorry if I offended you. ] ] 21:13, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hi Zora! You removed a few words from the intro of ]. This basicly puts it back to the state it was be fore the dispute on his etnicity began (the really long talk page). This one (the one before you shortened it) seems to be going towards a consensus. I hop you don't mind that I will restore it, but you comments are of course greatly appreciated on the talk page. Cheers, —'']'' 00:47, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== POV, Piety in ] ==

Can you explain what exactly you considered POV and pious tone in the version of the article before you reverted it. If there really is a a POV or pious tone expressed in the article (which I'm not really seeing), it can be rectified without reverting the article. ] 03:05, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:You used Abdul Wahhab instead of independently verifying the hadith. The second one I could not verify through the MCSA search engine. I would not send ANYONE to Abdul Wahhab for a neutral depiction of pictorial representation.

:You said that most Muslims agreed that depiction was wrong -- that is clearly not the case. Not only do Shi'a allow it, most moderate Muslims do too. Howling mobs whipped up by Islamists are not evidence for majority opinion.

:You wrote, "Muhammad, being the deliverer of Islam's holiest book, the Qur'an, is revered by Muslims more than any other person in history". There are people who believe that Muhammad created the Qur'an, not just "delivered" it; there are people who believe that he didn't create it at all. Nor can you speak for all Muslims when you say that they revere Muhammad above all other people. Some might not. Some might think that he's in an entirely different category, and not to be compared with anyone else.

:If you asked a Christian, "which historical figure do you admire the most?", he or she might say "Abraham Lincoln" or "Einstein". If you say, "What about Jesus?", you might get a blank state. Jesus is another category entirely. I think that this might hold for Muslims. But we can't be sure, can we? In which case it's better not to make claims for all Muslims. ] 03:16, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:: I have taken your comments into account and reinstated information from the version before the revert. I reworded the intro (which seemed to be where most of your issues were) and omitted the additional hadith. ] 03:51, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== censorship? ==

Why don't you want to include "US-occupied"? IMHO it is quite interesting, that the only fatwa that allows the depiction of Mohammed, is in US-occupied Iraq. ] 05:08, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

I stumbled upon this and... well, I have no idea if it's real or not... but I know it has been an issue... you see anti-Islamic forums saying it's real and Shia forums saying it's made up.... I tend to think the latter and there are no sources... but in all honesty I really don't know... if you know one way or another please tell me... if nothing is done I'm going to get rid of it for being an attack with no sources but I'd rather have it deleted with an authoritative reason.

Also, I was reading some of ] and I saw that Crone uses "the Prophet". I just found that interesting that she, of all people, would use it. ] ] 06:36, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

: Dear Zora, this page is an attack page for sure. I am not Khomeini's fan. and I do know that the regime lowered the age of marriage. I also know about Islamic rules on sexuality. But these issues has nothing to do with this book. Marriage age were always 9 for girls in any islamic textbook. This book did not initiate these ideas. I do think that the book exist. Those who are interested in this very ordinary book are fanatic ] whose main aim is destroying Khomeini by any means. I am a neutral Iranian. I do think Khomeini did some good things and some bad things in his life. I am neither a fan of him nor a hater. But ] is a muslim hater for sure. Just look at the list of his contributions. Thanks.--]11:56, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
:: You should quite you personal attacks Mitso Bell , did you not notice how many articles I wrote on Muslims which I support and defend like ] , ] ,] and many many others. But that is besisdes the point , ] is a real book that deserves to see the light of day . --] 13:27, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
::: CltFn! I definitely appreciate your support for islam by supporting very well known Islam-haters as Azar Nafisi who is also an agent of your favorite US neoconservatives. Don't say these things to me. I know you quite well. You may find it hard to believe that I am an atheist Iranian. Remind yourself of calling your critics including me as ]. I try to be sympathetic to fanatics like you as much as I can. --]
:::: Very strong stamenents for an alleged neutral Iranian. If you knew me so well , then you might know that I do not believe a single word you are typing and you would not be wasting your time with the pretense.--] 13:46, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:: I don't care whether you believe in what I write or not. You can't distinguish between Persian and Arabic or ] and ], let alone knowing a word about Islam and Iran (except for propaganda). Fanatics are blind and any discussions with them make no sense. --]13:54, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

::::: "Fanatics are blind and any discussions with them make no sense",Couldn't have said it better myself.--] 14:06, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Sinlessness of Muhammad ==
You are right Zora. Unfortunately, I don't have enough knowledge to be able to write a good article. Moreover, I don't have enough time right now to read the book you suggested. It seems to be interesting. But I agree that "That's getting into a lot of detail for an article that's already too long." For now, can we make a new section for the article and put the detail there? --] 09:10, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

: What is an NPOV title for the article : "Doctorine of Sinlessness of Muhammad"; "Sinlessness of Muhammad"; or "Sinlessness of Prophets"; or ? Thanks --] 09:38, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

:: Well, Shia does not believe that Muhammad was more than human. Quran 41:6 " Say thou: "I am but a man like you: It is revealed to me by Inspiration, that your God is one God..." They do not mean that their Imams are not human. They mean just that their Imams are very special humans. The "pre-existence" refers to the early creation of their souls. They do not believe that their Imams are eternal. What is your opinion? Thanks --] 10:18, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

::: So, I'll start an article titled "]". Actually, I myself don't believe in the doctorine. Anyway, I'll start the article soon. Thanks --] 10:31, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

=="AIT"==
wow, good news, we can certainly need patrollers at the "Aryan Invasion" front, although the topic seems to be plagued by (again) Indian rather than Iranian nationalists . Are you sure Witzel suggests Afghanistan as the ] homeland (as opposed to the origin of the Rigveda, or the Indo-Aryans)? Afaik, their commonly assumed origin is further north, in Kazakhstan (]). ] <small>]</small> 10:08, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

==Sari==
Why thank you Zora, it ''is'' a nice pic, izzanit? One of RRV's best-known paintings. I shall try to find some of Coorgi and Maharashtrian styles also -- more snaps are certainly needed, esp. since it is so difficult to describe the matter. Page needs serious copyediting. Will become one of my "quiet" projects. I had no idea you were involved on that page, but I now see you are. But then, what r u ''not'' involved in? Regards, ] 14:49, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

:Not to intervene in a personal exchange, but wrt your comment: IMO, the ubiquity of those types on the internet is a function of their relative marginalization in Indian civic society; their occasional public successes have wheels within wheels. Not that they are not shrill enough, but they generally lack a receptive audience -- which does not dissuade them, as we see. One cannot project, on the basis of sundry louts, our potential membership in an "axis of insanity". All said however, everybody in India is minimally "nationalistic" enough to ask why, if we openly develop it ourselves (not steal, smuggle, subrosa proliferate), we should not have the bomb. Even armed-to-the-teeth protectors-of-the-free-world are now seeing the light on both this and the general-civic-society point. Apparently.

:Hardcore nutheads are few and marginal in India; witness the fact that we have had only a single recalcitrant on Rajput, but a greater population from the other side, who have been equally stubborn, over an extended period, with less cause. What, I daily ask myself, would I have done if faced with unremitting insistance for large-scale mention, ''on main pages'', of "Muslim-brahmins", "Confucian-arabs" and whatnot?? So let us not condemn, even now. Peace on earth! (and in cyberspace) ] 20:19, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

::Not so much nuclear weapons, but that a society is not to be judged by its nutheads -- not even when they occasionally get elected, as in your country and mine. ] 20:26, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

==Thank you==
Hey thanks for your help on ] and (especially) . Make sure you keep an eye on ] as they might try to remove the dispute tag. Another article of interest: ]. There was a study done on Pakistani Parsis that showed some relation to Iranians. I tried to point out that the study was done on Pakistanis, but my edits (and which seemed useful) were maliciously reverted. I thought you might be interested. ]<sup>]</sup> 08:07, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

:You made a good analogy with the right-wingers in America, except that these people are the clear minority - most of them were kicked out of Iran. As for Parsis, I'm not sure if we're on the same page. I don't really have a position except that I don't want people to be engaged in original research and making statements like "All Parsis are the same, so if Pakistani Parsis are close to Irarnians, so must be the Indian Parsis." Look at the . ]<sup>]</sup> 14:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

==Hello==
]. --] 13:44, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:Come on, you are most welcome to have a ] with ]. I will just watch. --] 14:12, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== 3RR rule ==

No, I will continue to revert on this matter of principle as I have bothered to seek a genuine discussion on the talk page and the anonymous user has not. This is a matter of blatant vandalism, which I am reverting. Go ahead, report me if you like. If people can get away with behaving unreasonably, I have have no interest in your rule books. This problem has gone on long enough with the Ahwaz-related pages. If I give way on the population issue, then there is little point in making any constructive contribution elsewhere for it will be dominated by Persian ultra-nationalists.--] 14:52, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

:But this user won't get banned. He is anonymous. This is the frustrating thing. If Southern Comfort had done this, we could have had a debate and no matter how strongly we felt we would have reached a compromise. I have compromised in the past with others and have not been threatened with this 3RR rule. But there is no debate with someone who hides behind anonymity, so why should this one be privileged over others who make an effort here.--] 15:50, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== Arabs of Khuzestan ==

I wrote to Elton Daniel on the issue of his estimation of the number of Arabs in Khuzestan. He says that he no longer has the notes that he used from the book he wrote, which he says was "for a popular series instead of an
academic one with full documentation." So he is relying on memory. He states that he "relied on the U.S. Congress Area Handbook for Iran for most statistical data ... The edition then available stated that the estimated Arab population in Iran was 530,000 in 1986." But he adds that there are a number of factors to bear in mind, including "a lack of any really relilable official statistics since around 1956 (which could conceivably be what the Area Handbook actually used), exactly how one defines "Arabs" in this context, whether those numbers were affected by population displacement because of the Iran-Iraq war, etc." He is not certain himself and is fully aware of the difficulties involved in estimating figures. I think it would be worthwhile looking at the latest edition of the US Congress Area Handbook for Iran to see exactly what it states now. I do not know where this can be accessed. On the US Congress website, it repeats the 3% figure quoted by the CIA (which puts the Arab population at around two million), although I am not sure where this percentage originally came from: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/profiles/Iran.pdf

The reason why this is a heated battle is about Persian nationalist ideology. The fact is that ethnic Persians are 50% or less of the Iranian population. If Persians are a minority, it means that Iran can no longer be said to have a wholly Persian culture. Also, Khuzestan is a very inflammatory subject as non-Persians - ie Arabs - are in an overwhelming majority there. It is a fact that annoys Persian nationalists and this is why they continually under-estimate the facts. Two to four million is a reasonable range - I would suggest around four million personally. But one million is an absurd estimation made by those with political motives by those who wish to eradicate Arab culture from Iran. This is why the population issue is so important.--] 21:00, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

==RFC==
Please comment on my rfc ]--] 21:30, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

==Ja'far al-Sadiq==
Zora, why did you decide to completely delete the Sunni Imams from the students list of Jafar al Sadiq? It is accepted by most educated Sunnis, as well noneducated Sunnis, that they were taught by him. ] 02:07, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

== ] peer review ==

Hi, I've started a new peer review for ], please express your opinions at ]. Thanks. --] 05:32, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

== Striver (or that other guy) RfC ==

You know what annoys me most about all of those AfDs and the RfC? It seems that some people aren't evne thinking about hadith titles. Take "Hadith of Umar's speech of forbidding Mut'ah" for example. it. You get only wikipedia for results. Even these titles are being pulled from Striver's minds. The inclusionist idea of "if Bible verses get articles then why can't hadith" is getting enough keep votes for no consensus when people don't even realize that the titles are not used in scholarly discourse. *annoyed face* Anyways... is there naming for hadith? Are any of his titles correct? If they were I could stomach more cleanup tags and fewer deletes... but, you can't get more wrong than an original research title. (pardon the letting off steam) ] ] 09:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

== Help once again ==

Hi, Zora, it's me, Plumcouch again.
I have a small problem and hope you can help me with it. I created a new article für ]'s new movie ] and noticed a ] having a role (he's possibly cast opposite her, so I can't just drop him from the cast roster given the importance of his role). Anyway, we already *have* a Vinod Khanna here at Wiki and it's not ]'s Vinod Khanna. Is it custom to create a disambigation (sp?) page in such cases? Or do you write on the top of an article ''Not the Vinod Khanna you're looking for?'' or something like that? I hope you can help me. --] 20:52, 13 March 2006 (UTC) Ps. And something entirely else: Certain people (not naming any names) are really, er, ''focused'' on Rani. I thought it had gotten better, but apparantly passion re-ignited as of late ... can't you do something about it? Like some almighty administrator ban or something? All those copyvio pictures that appear there time and again and the fangush and the counting ... *shudders*

: Hmm - I checked Vinod Khanna's IMDb biography. He's 60. And ] is about 24. ... ... besides that being really gross and just urgh - I think and are pictures of the guy being cast opposite Diya Mirza. Is it Vinod? He doesn't really look as if he's 60 - or, from my point of you: is someone who could be her grandfather allowed to look like this? Maybe I mixing something up. --] 21:28, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:: Oh, I think the guy on the pix is Akshay Kapoor, some newcomer, listed at IndiaFm.com's article in ] after ]. I just got confused and mixed them up. Sorry for bothering you and for the inconvinience. --] 21:31, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

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Namecalling

To whoever left the insulting message on my talkpage, unsigned -- that was rude and cruel. Call me an alien if you want, but don't throw misogynistic slurs my way. Zora (talk) 09:35, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Please come back

Hi Zora. The Bollyeood project on here has ground to a halt. We no longer have editors like you and Pa7 around to improve content like we used to. BollywoodDreamz has little time for wikipedia anymore with uni committments and a lot of Shahid's time is spent reverting stupid edits and fighting silly editors. Please consider returning and restoring order once again. We could hhonestly do with several hundred Zoras to keep the project in order and to improve the quality of content. Regards. ‡ Himalayan ‡ 12:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I second that. I think you were an amazing editor, and one of my favourite. I'm really sorry if you consider me as one of those "loons or ignorant POV-pushing fanatics". I'm not a nationalist, I never was. I'm willing to learn, but in this particular case, I just respectfully disagree. Anupam in fact contacted you to have you back on here to reinforce his POV. I still appreciate you for the efforts. Shahid • 20:31, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Warning

Zora, please do not change articles until consensus is reached. Do not use sections on which you add information to deviously add your POV. No colloquial register. The language of the films is Hindi and people watch them because of the similarity between the languages and because Urdu words have been used from time to time.. If you do it again, I'll request admin help. Thanks, Shahid • 10:30, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

so...

how are you doing? It's been such a long time I don't think you even remember who I am :). Last time we talked, you were very stressed...thatdoesn't seem to have changed. Hope all is well with you. GNU4eva (talk) 21:43, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Saw your edit after adding the talkback message—better...--Supertouch (talk) 18:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

yes, Zora, you're sorely missed, especially for Islam-related articles, where it's quite difficult to find un-emotional, serious editing. All the best Giordaano (talk) 08:29, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Bollywood

Zora, please assume good faith and do not revert editors who are much more experienced than you are. If you are reverting something which has been protested by someone else, kindly discuss on the talk page first, and then edit.

Secondly, mention of other specific film industries is NOT relevant in the lead of this article. This article is about Hindi cinema, not Telugu, not Marathi and not Tamil. If people want to know what the other parts of Indian cinema are, they can refer to that page. Also, the user mentioned only several industries, while there are much, much more. We are not here to make choices. If you wanna add something, then rephrase it first, do not leave it for others to fix.

You did not even check what the user added and where he added it. He actually inserted his text within a footnote, which is a very wrong format. Next time please check before reverting.

For now, I added a short clause which makes the sentence clearer. If you think you can rephrase it in a better way, that would be great. Shahid • 14:24, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

That certainly was not my meaning, and if you felt so, I apologise. I do not own the article and I think not even once have I ever shown such intents. First, I never "ordered" anything. Second, I did not ask you to consult me but use the talk page. Thirdly, I said that because your revert was totally inappropriate and insulting. You just restored a text which was placed within a footnote, that's improper formatting, and you should have checked it before. The first thing anyone would conclude from that is that you are not assuming good faith on them and reverting them just for the sake of reverting specifically their edits.
I am aware of all the incidents you had to go through, and I've actually felt the same when people like you indirectly accused me of being a nationalist, while I'm not. My religion is none of anyone else's business. I like editing and improving articles, not fighting over scripts, but I had an opinion, I still hold it, and several intelligent editors share the same view. When I joined Misplaced Pages, I appreciated your hard work, though frankly I recently got very disappointed by your attitude towards me, which includes being occasionally rude and mostly assuming bad faith on my part. I cannot accept that. That made me understand why many people did not get along with you at the time. Previously I used to think there was something wrong with them, not with you. But now...
Just like you tell me of your previous hard work, I collaborated with many editors who always expressed their appreciation, even those you used to interact with back in time, such as Plumcouch, Pa7, Grenavitar, etc., perhaps with the exception of Shez 15, who is no longer active, and it doesn't really matter now.
If you're back, then good for you, but I somehow feel you were constantly angry not only then, but now too. That's not how it should be on WP, you must have fun, otherwise this place is not for you (I'm not referring to you specifically but to the whole breed of WP editors).
Anyway, there is a new clause in the article which I think is very good, so this topic should be probably closed. Shahid • 19:38, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


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Hadith

I see that it has been protected which looking at the history for today is a good idea. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 14:55, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protected as well. Would have been quicker but I got logged out as I went from my talk page to the hadith page. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 07:34, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
I've semi-protected it for a week. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 00:12, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

references

No problem: I am just happy that someone is adding refs at all! BollyJeff || talk 23:11, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

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Histiography and nationlism

might be a good idea to include http://inventionofthejewishpeople.com/ or rather the work covering the creation of the jewish nation and histiography. 2.102.189.208 (talk) 01:25, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Not opening another front in the Israeli-Palestinian wars. No way. Zora (talk) 04:58, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back

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You're being quoted

Hi. This is just a courtesy note to let you know a comment you made five years ago has been quoted in the current discussion at Talk:Muhammad/images. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 13:22, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Warning

Zora, your reversal of my edits, which go in accordance with policy, is completely unacceptable, and more so the rude way in which you have done it, which I'm not going to tolerate any longer. Stop thinking that your opinion matters the most, and before giving support to such claims as "enormous film empire" and "Stars, rather than plots, were often the driving force behind the films", and a whole unsourced block of original research, read WP:CITE and WP:OR and kindly familiarise yourself with the process of Misplaced Pages editing. The introduction has been this way for years, if you want to change it then discuss. And your constant assertions that Bollywood is not the Hindi film industry do not make much sense unless you can prove reality is wrong.

Yes, the first thing that a reader should see is indeed the language of a film industry (particularly when it comes to India, in which every film industry is sorted by language, basically), and the lingua franca of Bollywood is Hindi, as it is mentioned in possibly every Indian film article, and almost every source on the article. The use of Urdu is mentioned perfectly, its use has been fading, and today most films do not even have Urdu scripts in the opening credits. "Encyclopaedia of Hindi cinema", the largest book written about this film industry, published by Britannica and written by the likes of Gulzar, as well as numerous other books which you can see on the net, acknowledge Bollywood as Hindi cinema, and this is how it has been known for years. Film certificates, too, mention Hindi as the language of Bollywood films, and the term Bollywood in indeed informal (and mind you, it is a term used to refer to the industry, not the industry itself).

Your attempts to erase them border on vandalism, and your penchant to accuse others of nationalism will not be taken lightly. Your insistence to see everything as negative and think that everyone is based on national grounds is of least interest to me. I'm not here to serve your agenda, and do not expect me, or anyone else, for that matter, to follow your personal preferences. Want to start another long discussion? Do it! But please do cite sources (which you never do, because everything you say is right, isn't it?) and do not feel you own Misplaced Pages because you do NOT.

Next time you revert, I will report you on ANI. Instead of dictating, enforcing your biased views, and coming here from time to time only to revert someone, I suggest you to contribute to the project by trying to improve it. I personally am trying to do it every day. Enough is enough. Shahid • 22:12, 23 December 2011 (UTC)


Your GA nomination of Black Stone

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A barnstar for you!

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I still remember all the editing wars you had with people who were only interested in pushing their POV. You've been around the block forever, and I just wanted to make sure you know that someone appreciates it. GNU4eva (talk) 22:43, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of Indian playback singers

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Indian Cinema Task Force in the Signpost

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Bukhari link

Zora, I saw you removed the link I added for a translation of Sahih al-Bukhari. In defense of putting it back up:

  1. The current and only link for Sahih al-Bukhari is down and has been down a while
  2. The current translation is missing a lot of hadith and has a lot of typos, and every single hadith (except the first two) have the wrong reference numbers.
  3. Sunnah.com is not a "religious" site, i.e. there is no preaching going on. It just has translations.
  4. The translator for both is actually the same - the version on sunnah.com has just been cleaned up more is all.

Mansari.uw (talk) 18:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Reply on your review at Ibrahim ebi's talk page.

Thanks, for your elaborate review on the templates. ( Detailed reply is on my talk page ). -- Ibrahim ebi (talk) 09:35, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Hadith

Zora, I was not implying that collecting hadith was unique to Shi'a. Please re-read my edit. However I do believe the phenomenon of compiling 100+ volume compilations that are in common circulation in the post-mediaeval period is uniquely Shi'i.

Currently the article implies that Shi'a only use 4 hadith books which is not true.

If you feel that I stated it in a misleading manner, why don't you edit what I wrote to make it clearer instead of just deleting it.

I would appreciate it if you would put my addition back, and if you feel it needs to be improved, all the better. 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gamma Draconis (talk • contribs) 19:36, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hadith - reply

With respect, I am a specialist in this area, and speaking from the perspective of knowledge of the subject area. I also referenced my additions. Your comment "I am sure that..." suggests that you are not specialized in this subject field.

I was doing my bit to improve the article which was clearly not appreciated.

Anyway...I am not going to sit here and fight over the page because I have better things to do, however in the future I would request that you take the time to investigate the subject area deeply before making revisions on things just based on your personal intuition.

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Bukhari teachings

It wasn't my intent for that to be the only teaching, it's just one I came across, I figure there are ways to present the more important or controversial ones of note. Since it refers to the specific passage I figure it wasn't implying to represent the entire content. Ranze (talk) 01:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

It's not exactly just my own POV, the whole way I came across this was because of reading about it multiple reasons on various discussions about it. Anyway I don't see how it's PoV to pick one out, we can pick others out too and add them, if they're interesting, but still has to begin 1 at a time. If we never reproduce 1 line alone, we'd have to introduce many in one fell swoop and that's kinda hard.
Anyway why should we only be presenting what so-called "scholars" choose to look at versus what they ignore? Who establishes their reliability? What establishes their opinions as notable? Degrees from institutions which are notable because... ? Ranze (talk) 03:43, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I guess I'm also concerned about neutrality, assuming they know more from having studied more, doesn't mean what they know will be presented. The issue here isn't even what it says, I already provided a reference (from the database we link at the bottom) showing it says that, just whether or not it should be highlighted. If we have already established enough notability of issues concerning Islam and LGBT for it to have its own page, wouldn't that establish the topic as notable enough to post any hadith phrases pertaining to the issue?

If not on the Bukhari page itself, would it warrant mentioning on the IaL article then? Ranze (talk) 06:16, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Contact request regarding Xango

Hello, Zora. I remember you from the Xango page edits. I am interested in talking with you regarding Xango. Do you think there could be a chance?

Please email me to xangoscamcontact@gmail.com if you're interested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.109.199.47 (talk) 22:11, 17 December 2013 (UTC)


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Wives of prophet Muhammad.

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