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| == Welcome == | |||
| Feel free to contribute! Edits will be moderated. ] (]) 00:15, 8 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| Welcome to everybody! | |||
| ⚫ | == Why is Misplaced Pages losing contributors |
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| ⚫ | == Misplaced Pages:Why is Misplaced Pages losing contributors - Thinking about remedies == | ||
| As a matter of fact there's a lot of people that when invited to join wikipedia immediately declines because of interaction-related problems: | |||
| Hi. The Misplaced Pages:Why is Misplaced Pages losing contributors - Thinking about remedies page seems to be dying. Either people don't care, they have seen this kind of conversation fire up in the past, or there are not enough practical suggestions, or entrenched interests will not budge. One idea is to whittle this down dramatically and submit here: | |||
| * ''Editing it's too much stressing...'' | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Opinion_desk | |||
| * ''There's too much flaming people around...'' | |||
| I might adapt the discussion into an opinion. I'll have to think about whether it would be useful. | |||
| * ''I want to be free to call someone X when he deserves it!'' | |||
| ] (]) 20:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| * ''There's too much to learn and guidelines to read!'' | |||
| I think that wikipedia could evolve, aiming to simplify and automate some user interaction and avoid most common stress sources. This should be adherent with WP main goal since we're not here to act as a social forum. | |||
| === Slowing down === | |||
| '''Most edit warring take place in a short time'''. Worst behaviours emerge due to very short editing life cycle. Users being able to commit only once an hour/a day/X same article would be encouraged towards first-think-then-post. An intermediate sandbox tool could be very helpful. For example: linux operating systems provide full 'per-user-system-vision'. Similarly everybody could be able to commit whenever he wants to the intermediate sandbox (and view it as user-X immediately). Once an hour/a day/... system will merge the intermediate sandbox with a simple algorithm: edits related to distinc sections immediately merged; edits related to a common section with a X policy (First In First Out/Last In First Out/...). | |||
| === Problematic users === | |||
| '''Too much freedom is really tempting problematic users'''. There are a lot of people who feel themselves as powerful being able to open accusation against other users. RfC - a simple and polite invite to other editors to join talk page discussion and review - should be everything that users should refer to. Administrative tools should be posted and performed by admin only. Somebody could feel this like an authoritative evolution but it could the chance to dramatically simplify interaction and attract a lot of new users - now shifting towards social networks. | |||
| === Software innovation === | |||
| '''Looking for all template codes is really time-consuming'''. Another possibly overlooked reason is the way the Wiki software works. Even experienced internet users, when looking at a Talk page discussion, give up and walk away. The interface isn't designed for creating clear threaded discussions, and the text really just runs together. Most of us here are used to it, but it required time. Also on the page editing side, people have to remember strange codes and templates in order to do certain things. | |||
| WP recognized by UNESCO ] could be a great chance to invest in required software innovation! | |||
| === Automated user conduct handling === | |||
| '''Let's imagine a unix-like access level'''. | |||
| * User is given an ''access level'' (AL): -1 (=banned), 0 (=just created), ..., 10 (=allowed to edit any non-system page) | |||
| * Misplaced Pages articles are given a ''protection level'' (PL): -1 (edit by banned users), 0 (=edit with AL >= 0), ... 10 (=edit with AL == 10) | |||
| * User automatically gains +1 AL every X time and Y good edits (not raising any accusation/dicking/wikilove/... filter) | |||
| An adaptive and granular access control system could handle article protection in a very effective way - like linux. Article rates PL 7, you've just joined WP at AL 0 and you can only read. You take actively part to WP N times without rising any filter and after a week/a month/... you gain an extra point... Normal articles rate PL 0 and disputed articles rate PL 10 so to be edited only by cool editors. | |||
| Human interaction is still granted by an admin that reviews the filter report and decides wheter to reward with -1 AL. | |||
| True behavioural redemption and guidelines conformity is granted by time and good edits number required to regain AL points. | |||
| === WP:OR/WP:RS <-> common sense === | |||
| '''OR/RS and common sense intersect and conflict a lot of times'''. It should be allowed to split articles: first part has to be completely referenced and readable by any unexperienced user, second part can be experts-oriented and reference to usually-taken-for-granted advanced topics. | |||
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Welcome to everybody!
Misplaced Pages:Why is Misplaced Pages losing contributors - Thinking about remedies
Hi. The Misplaced Pages:Why is Misplaced Pages losing contributors - Thinking about remedies page seems to be dying. Either people don't care, they have seen this kind of conversation fire up in the past, or there are not enough practical suggestions, or entrenched interests will not budge. One idea is to whittle this down dramatically and submit here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Opinion_desk I might adapt the discussion into an opinion. I'll have to think about whether it would be useful. Wxidea (talk) 20:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC)