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{{short description|Person who practices seductive techniques}} | |||
The '''seduction community''', sometimes referred to as '''the community''', is a ] of men, primarily communicating on the Internet, who strive for better ]/access with women. Members of the community often call themselves ] (PUA). It exists mostly through ], marketing (e.g. ], seminars, one on one coaching), forums and groups, as well as over a hundred local clubs, known as "lairs". | |||
{{Other uses|The Pick-up Artist (disambiguation){{!}}The Pick-up Artist}} | |||
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{{Update|date=February 2023|reason=Doesn't really cover developments since Neil Strauss}} | |||
{{Unreliable sources|date=March 2023}} | |||
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'''Pickup artists''' ('''PUA''') are people whose goals are ] and ]. Predominantly heterosexual men, they often self-identify as the '''seduction community''' or the '''pickup community.''' This community exists through various channels, including internet ]s, ]s, seminars and one-on-one coaching, forums, groups, and local clubs known as "lairs".<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.theage.com.au/news/in-depth/winging-it/2007/01/28/1169919210771.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2 |title=Winging it |date=29 January 2007 |work=The Age |access-date=17 November 2013 |archive-date=16 December 2017 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20171216093256/http://www.theage.com.au/news/in-depth/winging-it/2007/01/28/1169919210771.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2 |url-status=live }}</ref> | |||
== History == | |||
The seduction community's origins date back to ], who promotes a collection of ] (NLP) techniques called ] (SS).<ref name="Aims Shoots">{{cite news |title=He Aims! He Shoots! Yes!! |first=Neil |last=Strauss |authorlink=Neil Strauss |url=http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/style/he-aims-he-shoots-yes.html |newspaper=] |date=25 January 2004 |accessdate=12 May 2011 |archiveurl=http://www.webcitation.org/5ydDj9R8U |archivedate=12 May 2011}}</ref> Other gurus established themselves, but lacked contacts with each other. In 1994, Lewis De Payne, then a student of Jeffries, founded the newsgroup alt.seduction.fast (ASF).<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.fastseduction.com/asf-faq.shtml |title=alt.seduction.fast FAQ and history|author=Jay Valens |date=3 March 2002|accessdate=16 December 2010}}</ref> This then spawned a network of other Internet discussion forums, email lists, blogs, and sites where seduction techniques could be exchanged.<ref name="Aims Shoots"/><ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.08.06/nlp-0606.html |title=Working Overtime on the Seduction Line |author=Bill Forman |date=8 February 2006 |work=Metroactive |publisher=Metro Publishing Inc |accessdate=26 November 2010}}</ref> | |||
The rise of "seduction science", "game",<ref>{{cite web|title= Inside Red Pill, The Weird New Cult For Men Who Don't Understand Women|url= http://www.businessinsider.com/the-red-pill-reddit-2013-8|work= Business Insider|last= Love|first= Dylan|date= September 15, 2013|access-date= April 1, 2015|archive-date= December 8, 2019|archive-url= https://web.archive.org/web/20191208173618/https://www.businessinsider.com/the-red-pill-reddit-2013-8|url-status= live}}</ref> or "studied ]" has been attributed to modern forms of ] and social norms between sexes which have developed from a perceived increase in the ] in ] and changes to traditional ]s.<ref>{{cite web|first=Kay S.|last=Hymowitz|url=http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_4_darwinist_dating.html|title=Love in the Time of Darwinism|website=]|date=August 2008|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160303221937/http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_4_darwinist_dating.html |archive-date=March 3, 2016}}</ref> Commentators in the media have described "game" as ] or ].<ref>{{Cite news|url = https://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/05/misogyny-and-mental-illness-are-very-different.html|title = There's a Difference Between Misogyny and Severe Mental Illness|last = Singal|first = Jesse|date = 28 May 2014|work = ]|access-date = 9 June 2014|archive-date = 19 October 2017|archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20171019092257/http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/05/misogyny-and-mental-illness-are-very-different.html|url-status = live}}</ref> | |||
The original alt.seduction.fast became overwhelmed with ], and a group called "Learn the Skills Corporation" developed a moderated alternative known as "Moderated ASF" (commonly "mASF"). {{Citation needed|date=July 2010}} During the same period, in the late 1990s, Clifford Lee began his Cliff's List Seduction Letter as a central independent voice of the community.<ref name="Toronto Sun">{{cite web |url=http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2008/12/31/7891486.html |title=Disgraced doctor is T.O's seduction guru |author=Jenny Yuen |date=13 April 2008 |work=Toronto Sun |publisher=Sun Media |accessdate=26 November 2010}}</ref> | |||
==History== | |||
Other seduction teachers emerged with competing methods, and became known within this community as "seduction gurus" or "gurus".<ref name="Sex">{{cite web |url=http://www.montrealmirror.com/2005/071405/news2.html |title=Seduction for Dummies |author=Kristian Gravenor |date=14 July 2005 |work=Montreal Mirror |publisher=Communications Gratte-Ciel Ltée |accessdate=26 November 2010}}</ref> | |||
Modern pickup artist practices have been traced to the 1967 publication of ''The Art of Erotic Seduction'' by ] ] and Roger Conway and the 1970 publication of ''How to Pick Up Girls!'' by ]. These how-to guides encourage men to meet women through the "pickup".<ref>{{cite book|last1=Ellis|first1=Albert|last2=Conway|first2=Roger|title=The art of erotic seduction|date=1967|publisher=Lyle Stuart|location=New York City}}</ref> | |||
] taught workshops, promoted a collection of ] (NLP) techniques called "seed seduction", and in 1991 published ''How to Get the Women You Desire into Bed''.<ref name="Aims Shoots">{{cite news |title=He Aims! He Shoots! Yes!! |first=Neil |last=Strauss |author-link=Neil Strauss |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/style/he-aims-he-shoots-yes.html |newspaper=] |date=25 January 2004 |access-date=12 May 2011 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110214214049/http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/style/he-aims-he-shoots-yes.html |archive-date=14 February 2011 |url-status=dead}}</ref> Other exponents established themselves in roughly the same era but lacked contact with each other. In 1994, Lewis De Payne, then a student of Jeffries, founded the ] ].seduction.fast (ASF).<ref name="Aims Shoots" /> This spawned a network of other Internet discussion forums, email lists, blogs, and sites where seduction information and techniques could be shared.<ref name="Aims Shoots"/><ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.08.06/nlp-0606.html |title=Working Overtime on the Seduction Line |author=Bill Forman |date=8 February 2006 |work=Metroactive |publisher=Metro Publishing Inc |access-date=26 November 2010 |archive-date=27 September 2011 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110927181639/http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.08.06/nlp-0606.html |url-status=live }}</ref>{{Unreliable source?|date=September 2023}} | |||
"The Community" was brought more into the mainstream when, in 2005, ] wrote '']'', an exposé of the seduction community. ''The Game'' reached the ], and popularized pickup and seduction to a broader audience.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2008-04-09/news/cock-and-awe-st-louis-pickup-artists-rule-the-roost/3 |title=Cock and Awe |author=Aimee Levitt |date=9 April 2008 |work=Riverfront Times |publisher= |accessdate=26 November 2010}}</ref> | |||
Other pickup teachers emerged with competing methods, and became known within this community as "seduction gurus" or "gurus".<ref name="Sex">{{cite web |url=http://www.montrealmirror.com/2005/071405/news2.html |title=Seduction for Dummies |first=Kristian |last=Gravenor |date=14 July 2005 |work=] |access-date=26 November 2010 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20050716235052/http://www.montrealmirror.com/2005/071405/news2.html |archive-date=16 July 2005 }}</ref> Their study groups gradually developed into meeting groups for the seduction community, known as "seduction lairs".<ref name="eyeweekly">{{cite web |url=http://www.eyeweekly.com/city/features/article/22843 |title=Portrait of a Pickup Artist |first=Alex |last=Molotkow |date=2 April 2008 |work=] |access-date=26 November 2010 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100207223645/http://www.eyeweekly.com/city/features/article/22843 |archive-date=7 February 2010}}</ref> A lair typically involves an online forum and in-person group meetings.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=5jofAAAAIBAJ&pg=5923,3535197&dq=seduction-community+lairs&hl=en |title=From Chump to Pickup Artist via 'The Community' |first=Neil |last=Strauss |authorlink=Neil Strauss |date=25 January 2004 |website=] |access-date=17 November 2013 |archive-date=5 September 2024 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240905134558/https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=5jofAAAAIBAJ&pg=5923,3535197&dq=seduction-community+lairs&hl=en |url-status=live }}</ref> In the late 1990s, Clifford Lee began his ''Cliff's List Seduction Letter'' as a central independent voice of the community.<ref name="Toronto Sun">{{cite news |url=http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2008/12/31/7891486.html |title=Disgraced doctor is T.O's seduction guru |first=Jenny |last=Yuen |date=13 April 2008 |newspaper=] |access-date=26 November 2010}}</ref> | |||
"The Community" was further publicized with the television show ] on ]. | |||
The community was brought to greater mainstream awareness with the 1999 film '']'', in which ] portrayed a charismatic yet emotionally troubled pickup guru who was loosely modeled on Jeffries.<ref>{{cite magazine|first=David|last=Konow|date=January–February 2000|title=PTA Meeting: An Interview with Paul Thomas Anderson|magazine=Creative Screenwriting}}</ref> In 2005, journalist ] published '']'', an exposé of the community which reached the ] and made pickup techniques known to a wider audience.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2008-04-09/news/cock-and-awe-st-louis-pickup-artists-rule-the-roost/3 |title=Cock and Awe |first=Aimee |last=Levitt |date=9 April 2008 |website=] |access-date=26 November 2010 |archive-date=29 June 2011 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110629122128/http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2008-04-09/news/cock-and-awe-st-louis-pickup-artists-rule-the-roost/3/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> The community was further publicized with the television show '']'' (2007–2008) on ]. | |||
Seduction lairs are an underground meeting group for men devoted to the study of ] as it is taught in the seduction community. | |||
Lairs first began as study groups soon after Ross Jeffries released his first products and began teaching sometime in the early 90s.<ref name="eyeweekly">{{cite web |url=http://www.eyeweekly.com/city/features/article/22843 |title=Portrait of a Pickup Artist |author=Alex Molotkow |date=2 April 2008 |work=Eye Weekly |publisher=Star Media Group |accessdate=26 November 2010}}</ref> They became widely known after the release of ] by ]. Hundreds of lairs exist.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.fastseduction.com/lairpage.shtml |title=Lair List |author= |date=10 July 2010 |work=Fast Seduction 101 |publisher=Learn The Skills Corporation |accessdate=26 November 2010}}</ref> | |||
A "lair" typically involves two elements: an online forum and group meetings. These elements are used as resources for men who want to learn to become well-versed in how to successfully attract women. | |||
Lairs are often places that ]s will visit to promote their wares by speaking and advising the group as is mentioned by Neil Strauss in ''The Game''.{{citation needed|date=October 2010}} | |||
== Concepts == | == Concepts == | ||
Many pickup artists (commonly abbreviated PUA) work on their "game" by improving their understanding of psychology, their confidence, and self-esteem – collectively termed "inner game" – and their social skills and physical appearance (physical fitness, fashion sense, grooming) – collectively termed the "outer game". Many members of the community believe that one's "game" is refined through regular practice,<ref name="macleans">{{cite web |url=http://www.macleans.ca/culture/books/article.jsp?content=20050829_111329_111329 |title=Q&A with Author Neil Strauss |first=George |last=Lianne |date=29 August 2005 |work=] |access-date=27 November 2010 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100619125551/http://www.macleans.ca/culture/books/article.jsp?content=20050829_111329_111329 |archive-date=19 June 2010 }}</ref> with the idea that the abilities needed to interact in this way with women can be improved. | |||
Supporters of this community typically believe that the conventional dating advice for men is fatally flawed. For example, they reject the notion that men should attempt to woo women by spending money on them (e.g. buying drinks, presents, jewelry), calling it '']''. A lot of the theory is based on evolutionary biology, focused on sexual selection. | |||
The pickup community has a special terminology for describing "game" and male–female dynamics and social interaction.<ref name="Sex" /> Learned through study groups and products, this creates an insular community. Pickup terms are borrowed from everyday English vocabulary or from male-dominated fields like business, sports and the military, and can be quite opaque for the unindoctrinated.<ref name="Dayter">{{cite web|first1=Daria|last1=Dayter|first2=Sofia|last2=Rüdiger|url=https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/english-today/article/in-other-words/4D7A73B934286A2A6434F849D14862C6|title=In other words: 'The language of attraction' used by pick-up artists|website=English Today|volume=35|issue=2|date=June 2019|pages=13–19|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201026035053/https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/english-today/article/in-other-words/4D7A73B934286A2A6434F849D14862C6 |archive-date=October 26, 2020 }}</ref> | |||
Many members of the seduction community work on their "game" (seduction skills) by improving their understanding of psychology, their confidence and self-esteem (termed "inner game"), and their social skills and physical appearance (physical fitness, fashion sense, grooming) ("outer game"). Many members of the community believe that one's "game" is refined through regular practice,<ref name="macleans">{{cite web |url=http://www.macleans.ca/culture/books/article.jsp?content=20050829_111329_111329 |title=Q&A with Author Neil Strauss |author=George Lianne |date=29 August 2005 |work=Maclean's |publisher=Kenneth Whyte |accessdate=27 November 2010}}</ref> with the idea that the abilities needed to interact in this way with women can be improved. | |||
"Night game" refers to meeting women at night in bars and clubs, whereas "day game" refers to meeting women during the day in the street or shopping malls. Traditionally, night game has been associated with "indirect game", which is to delay showing interest in the women, whereas day game has been associated with "direct game", which is to declare your interest in the women upfront. | |||
The seduction community has a unique set of ]s and ] for describing male-female dynamics and social interaction.<ref name="Sex" /> For example, 'AFC' ("average frustrated chump") is a term coined by ] to describe males who are typically clueless and incompetent with women.<ref name="Aims Shoots" /> | |||
== Industry == | |||
Alpha-Male Of the Group (AMOG): a reference to a competing male, who is usually either befriended by the PUA, or, if necessary, ridiculed. Some of the concepts in the community are borrowed from other disciplines, such as the concept of ] from the psychology of ], and various concepts from ] and ] (such as the term "]"). | |||
The former pickup artist ], who has since recanted aspects of his past and converted to ], had self-published 14 books describing techniques for seducing women.<ref name="citypaper">{{cite web|first=Jule|last=Banville|url=http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/08/12/blogger-stud-living-in-dads-basement-writing-second-book-on-how-to-get-laid/ |title=Blogger Stud Living in Dad’s Basement, Writing Second Book on How to Get Laid|website=]|date=August 12, 2008|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240905134500/https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/489763/blogger-stud-living-in-dads-basement-writing-second-book-on-how-to-get-laid/ |archive-date=September 5, 2024}}</ref><ref name="RM2019">{{cite web |title=Infamous Pickup Artist RooshV Says He's a Christian Now |url=https://relevantmagazine.com/culture/infamous-pickup-artist-rooshv-says-hes-a-christian-now/ |website=] |access-date=June 5, 2019 |language=en |date=May 23, 2019 |archive-date=September 5, 2024 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240905134458/https://relevantmagazine.com/culture/infamous-pickup-artist-rooshv-says-hes-a-christian-now/ |url-status=live }}</ref> According to '']'', such books are the "cash cow" of the pickup industry.<ref>{{cite web |last=Lu |first=Peter |url=http://www.salon.com/2011/09/20/greatest_pickup_artists_of_their_generation/ |title=Simple Pickup: Are these the greatest pickup artists of all time? |work=] |date=2011-09-20 |access-date=2013-03-10 |archive-date=2024-09-05 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240905134457/https://www.salon.com/2011/09/20/greatest_pickup_artists_of_their_generation/ |url-status=live }}</ref> The culture surrounding pickup has spawned an entire industry servicing those who want to improve their social and seduction skills with consultations and in-field training.<ref>Mountford, J. B. "Topic Modeling The Red Pill." Social Sciences 7.3 (2018): 42</ref> | |||
The media attention and rapid increase in pickup gurus have led to commercialization and competition. Gurus sell workshops, books, ], ], CDs, online video courses, and video-call mentoring over the Internet. | |||
== Practices == | |||
In '']'', ] documents various practices that occur in the seduction community. Members of the community believe in achieving success with women through scientific and ] means, rather than by relying on good looks or intuitive instinct, or by following societal courtship conventions. The practice of going out with the purpose of meeting women is known as "sarging", a term coined by ], after his cat "Sarge". A pickup artist can "sarge" alone, or with a ].<ref name="atlantic">{{Cite web |url=http://www.theatlantic.com/personal/archive/2010/07/pickup-artists-the-girliest-of-men/59578/ |title=Pickup Artists: The Girliest of Men |author=Megan McArdle |date=12 July 2010|work=The Atlantic |publisher=Atlantic Media Company |accessdate=29 September 2010}}</ref> | |||
== Practices== | |||
=== Approaching and opening === | |||
There are a variety of schools of thought that promote different pickup methods. These range from approaches that are very indirect and which stress starting with casual conversation, to methods in which attraction is communicated very openly and directly.<ref>{{Cite web | first=Clayton | last=Purdum | url=https://www.avclub.com/the-matrix-couldn-t-dream-up-the-internet-of-2018-1822353087 | title=The Matrix couldn't dream up the internet of 2018 | website=] | date=27 February 2018 | access-date=26 March 2018 | archive-date=5 September 2024 | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240905134458/https://www.avclub.com/the-matrix-couldn-t-dream-up-the-internet-of-2018-1822353087 | url-status=live }}</ref> Pickup artists generally do not believe in relying on good looks, instinct, or social conventions, but in achieving success through ] means.<ref name="atlantic">{{Cite web |url=https://www.theatlantic.com/personal/archive/2010/07/pickup-artists-the-girliest-of-men/59578/ |title=Pickup Artists: The Girliest of Men |first=Megan |last=McArdle |date=12 July 2010 |work=] |access-date=29 September 2010 |archive-date=5 September 2024 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240905134601/https://www.theatlantic.com/personal/archive/2010/07/pickup-artists-the-girliest-of-men/59578/ |url-status=live }}</ref> | |||
Pickup artists generally assume the mindset that women are ] and will not initiate, requiring men to begin any interaction by ''approaching'' them, but many have also cultivated a sensitivity to direct and indirect signals of sexual interest.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.datingskillsreview.com/the-dating-skillsets/#1 |title=The Dating Skillsets |publisher=Dating Skills Review |accessdate=12 May 2011}}</ref> | |||
Pickup artists generally assume that men should assume a dominant mindset – leading and initiating contacts and the conversation in general – in order to be more masculinely attractive, and that women will not generally initiate contact. This presumption requires men to begin any interaction by approaching the woman.<ref name=":1">{{Cite book |first1=Erik |last1=von Markovik |authorlink1=Erik von Markovik|first2=Chris |last2=Odom |title=The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed |date=2007 |publisher=] |location=New York City |ISBN=978-0312360115 |pages=51-53}}</ref> Pickup artists often approach repetitively, alone or with a ]. Strauss describes a pickup artist who conducted 125 approaches in one day.<ref name=TheGame298>Strauss, p. 298</ref> The "Mystery Method" encourages approaching groups of strangers (a "set") and giving attention to all members of the group without initiating conversation with the "target" until attraction has been established.<ref name=autogenerated1>Erik von Markovik, "The Mystery Method: How to get beautiful women into bed", St Martin's Press, 2007</ref> One way to achieve attraction is by acting as a leader of men and already enjoying ] from other women. In order to avoid appearing needy, one can use a "false time constraint", by pretending to leave the "set". Once the "target" has given indicators of interest (IOI), the pickup artist is free to show interest in the woman in return, by qualifying her on qualities he appreciates in her. Next, emotional connection is established with the woman through a series of venue changes, and talking about progressively deeper topics, such as involving vulnerability and plans for the future. During this time, the man escalates physical connection step by step via touching and "kinoing". After spending on average up to ~10 hours with the woman, sexual relationship may be initiated. However, according to PUA teachings, women have a tendency to avoid sex due to "last minute resistance", since historically getting pregnant has been more risky for women than for men. On the other hand, men have a similar tendency to avoid approaching women in the first place due to "approach anxiety" - the fear of rejection.<ref name=":1" /> | |||
There are many different types of "approaches". Approaches can be directed towards women who are in groups, or alone, and pickup artists can approach on their own or with their wingmen. | |||
The Jeffries version of pickup is based on ] (NLP), a theory that claims the existence of a connection between neurological processes, language, and behavioral patterns learned through experience. This version of pickup supposes that one can model a person to obtain their skills. However, scientific consensus is that NLP is a ] and its methods have no evidentiary base.<ref name="Swami">{{cite book|first=Viren |last=Swami |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=LF9ACwAAQBAJ |title=Attraction Explained: The science of how we form relationships |publisher=] |location=London, England |date=2015 |ISBN=978-1317385363 |page=16 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240905134459/https://books.google.com/books?id=LF9ACwAAQBAJ |archive-date=September 5, 2024 }}</ref> Later pickup gurus abandoned Jeffries's claims while continuing to employ the basic elements of NLP.<ref name="Swami" /> Strauss claims that NLP was quickly rendered obsolete by the rise of techniques based on ], such as those employed in attraction-comfort-seduction progressions.<ref name=":1"/> | |||
Approaching can be "direct" (in communicating sexual interest), or "indirect" (appearing indifferent towards physical intimacy). Approaching can also happen when a woman gives an "approach invitation" (abbreviated "AI"), a favorable ] signal, like ] or a smile. | |||
] is one of ]'s most infamous techniques, and has been described as the practice of giving a woman a backhanded compliment to weaken her confidence and thereby render her more vulnerable to seduction.<ref>{{Cite news|url = http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/cockblocked-by-redistribution|title = Cockblocked by Redistribution: A Pick-up Artist in Denmark|last = Baker|first = Katie J.M.|date = Fall 2013|work = Dissent Magazine|access-date = 7 June 2014|archive-date = 29 June 2014|archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20140629230944/http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/cockblocked-by-redistribution|url-status = live}}</ref> Depriving the woman of obsequious validation and attention may influence her to actively seek such from the man who negs her.<ref>Belknap, S. G. " {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150423163329/http://thepointmag.com/2010/examined-life/love-in-the-age-of-the-pickup-artist |date=2015-04-23 }}", ''The Point'', 2014</ref> Strauss states that the primary purpose of negging is for the man to disqualify himself as a potential suitor, thereby allowing for interaction on less loaded terms. Journalist ] condemned the use of negging by pick-up artists, but admitted that it did appear to be effective at generating attraction from some women.<ref name="Some I Insult, Some I Let Go">{{cite news|last1=Friedersdorf|first1=Conor|author-link1=Conor Friedersdorf|title=Some I Insult, Some I Let Go|url=http://trueslant.com/conorfriedersdorf/2009/07/22/some-i-insult-some-i-let-go/|access-date=23 December 2015|work=]|date=22 July 2009|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100202122856/http://trueslant.com/conorfriedersdorf/2009/07/22/some-i-insult-some-i-let-go/|archive-date=2 February 2010}}</ref><ref>], "", '']'', 22 July 2009</ref><ref>], " {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240905135052/https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2009/07/-the-neg-contd/198419/ |date=2024-09-05 }}", '']'', 24 July 2009</ref><ref>], "", ''The American Scene'', 8 August 2009</ref> | |||
PUAs believe that reading signals like the woman touching her hair, laughing, (termed IOI – Indicators of Interest) and knowing when to "escalate" the interaction to more intimate levels when windows of opportunity arise are essential skills for having success of any nature. The timing of these escalations is thought to be critical because a missed window of opportunity due to tentativeness can serve to dampen attraction. Another thought on this is that it does not matter what a woman does (like touching her hair), as long as the woman is being friendly toward the PUA. | |||
"Pawning" is trading or discarding an unwanted woman as proof of the PUA's own social value, and "going caveman" is escalating physical contact while reducing verbal contact.<ref>{{Cite news|url = https://www.smh.com.au/world/elliot-rodger-and-the-creepy-world-of-the-pickup-artist-20140528-zrqg1.html|title = Elliot Rodger and the creepy world of the pick-up artist|last = Koziol|first = Michael|date = 28 May 2014|work = Sydney Morning Herald|access-date = 7 June 2014|archive-date = 31 May 2014|archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20140531101218/http://www.smh.com.au/world/elliot-rodger-and-the-creepy-world-of-the-pickup-artist-20140528-zrqg1.html?|url-status = live}}</ref> | |||
Alternately, a window can be playfully skirted or even ignored to build tension, providing emotional space in which people can feel comfortable and unpressured. To calibrate interest from a woman, one can ask the AIA question: "Am I Interested". If the woman is, the player can calibrate accordingly and escalate touching and logistics. | |||
One constellation of PUA techniques, called "last minute resistance" (LMR) tactics, is designed to convince a woman to have sex after she has indicated that she does not want to. This includes tactics from those which are mutually beneficial – such as being okay with the woman being on her period – to callous manipulation and rape.<ref name=":0">{{Cite news|url = http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/beautiful-minds/201206/interview-pickup-artist-chaser-clarisse-thorn|title = Interview with Pickup Artist Chaser Clarisse Thorn|last = Kaufman|first = Scott Barry|date = 1 June 2012|work = Psychology Today|access-date = 9 June 2014|archive-date = 5 September 2024|archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20240905135012/https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/beautiful-minds/201206/interview-with-pickup-artist-chaser-clarisse-thorn|url-status = live}}</ref> | |||
"Cold approaching" occurs when the "target" has not given such a notice to the pickup artist. Cold approach can also refer to approaching a person you know nothing about, irrespective of whether they are displaying IOIs. Pickup artists approach either verbally, or nonverbally. | |||
== Criticism == | |||
Nearly every pickup artist, even those most experienced, admits to feelings of "approach anxiety" when approaching women; this feeling is exacerbated the longer the approach is delayed. Initiating a conversation is called "opening", and whatever the pickup artist says while opening is called an "]". Openers can be "canned" (prepared in advance), or improvised. | |||
Having a notorious reputation outside the community, the PUA movement has been described as sexist,<ref>{{Cite news|url = http://prospect.org/article/how-pick-artist-philosophy-and-its-more-misogynist-backlash-shaped-mind-alleged-killer|title = How 'Pick-Up Artist' Philosophy and Its More Misogynist Backlash Shaped Mind of Alleged Killer Elliot Rodger|last = Marcotte|first = Amanda|date = 25 May 2014|work = American Prospect|access-date = 7 June 2014|archive-date = 2 June 2014|archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20140602232653/http://prospect.org/article/how-pick-artist-philosophy-and-its-more-misogynist-backlash-shaped-mind-alleged-killer|url-status = live}}</ref> misogynistic,<ref name="Ettachfini">{{Cite news |url=https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/kzpx79/heinous-acts-that-earned-male-supremacists-their-hate-group-designation |title=The Heinous Acts That Earned Male Supremacists Their 'Hate Group' Designation |last=Ettachfini |first=Leila |date=2018-02-24 |access-date=2019-12-16 |language=en}}</ref><ref name="Mahdawi">{{Cite news |url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/25/can-someone-please-send-mushrooms-to-all-the-mens-rights-activists-out-there |title=Can someone please send mushrooms to all the men's rights activists out there? |last=Mahdawi |first=Arwa |date=2019-05-25 |work=The Guardian |access-date=2019-12-16 |language=en-GB |issn=0261-3077 |archive-date=2024-09-05 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240905135011/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/25/can-someone-please-send-mushrooms-to-all-the-mens-rights-activists-out-there |url-status=live }}</ref><ref name="splc">{{cite web |url=http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/misogyny-the-sites |title=Misogyny: The Sites |series=Intelligence Report |issue=145 |publisher=] |date=Spring 2012 |access-date=8 May 2014 |archive-date=23 July 2013 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130723050654/http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/misogyny-the-sites |url-status=live }}</ref> and pseudoscientific.<ref>{{Cite magazine|url = https://newrepublic.com/article/118036/sexist-pseudoscience-alpha-male-pick-artists|title = The Sexist Pseudoscience of Pick-Up Artists: The Dangers of "Alpha Male" Thinking|last = Steadman|first = Ian|date = 6 June 2014|magazine = New Republic|access-date = 7 June 2014|archive-date = 2 May 2020|archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20200502191611/https://newrepublic.com/article/118036/sexist-pseudoscience-alpha-male-pick-artists|url-status = live}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|url = https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/05/27/inside-the-manosphere-that-inspired-santa-barbara-shooter-elliot-rodger/|title = Inside the 'manosphere' that inspired Santa Barbara shooter Elliot Rodger|last = Dewey|first = Caitlin|date = 27 May 2014|newspaper = ]|access-date = 7 June 2014|archive-date = 29 October 2019|archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20191029034533/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/05/27/inside-the-manosphere-that-inspired-santa-barbara-shooter-elliot-rodger/|url-status = live}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|url = https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/24/pickup-artist-sexual-partners-bad-advice|title = Why I have no truck with the art of the pick-up|last = Fogg|first = Ally|date = 24 June 2013|work = The Guardian|access-date = 10 June 2014|archive-date = 5 September 2024|archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20240905135032/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/24/pickup-artist-sexual-partners-bad-advice|url-status = live}}</ref> Roosh V has been called hateful and a misogynist for his views on women and sex by the ],<ref name="Ettachfini"/><ref name="Mahdawi"/><ref name="splc"/> and accused of rape advocacy and multiple instances of rape depicted in his books.<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/08/14/are-roosh-vs-bang-books-how-to-guides-for-date-rape/ |title=Are Roosh V's "Bang" books how-to guides for rape? |last=Futrelle |first=David |date=2015-08-14 |access-date=2021-06-10}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |url=http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/02/14/an-icelandic-woman-has-come-forward-to-accuse-roosh-v-of-rape-blogger-reports/ |title=An Icelandic woman has come forward to accuse Roosh V of rape, blogger reports |last=Futrelle |first=David |date=2015-02-14 |website=We Hunted The Mammoth |access-date=2021-06-10 |archive-date=2021-06-10 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210610191346/http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/02/14/an-icelandic-woman-has-come-forward-to-accuse-roosh-v-of-rape-blogger-reports/ |url-status=live }}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/02/17/pickup-guru-roosh-v-end-rape-by-making-it-legal/ |title=Pickup guru Roosh V: End rape by making it legal |last=Futrelle |first=David |date=2015-02-17 |website=We Hunted The Mammoth |access-date=June 10, 2021 |archive-date=2021-06-10 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210610191344/https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/02/17/pickup-guru-roosh-v-end-rape-by-making-it-legal/ |url-status=live }}</ref> | |||
Members of the seduction community often practice approaching and opening repetitively; some have done thousands of approaches. Strauss describes a pickup artist who did 125 approaches in one day.<ref name=TheGame298>Strauss, p. 298</ref> | |||
Feminist ] writer and activist Clarisse Thorn, author of ''Confessions of a Pickup Artist Chaser: Long Interviews with Hideous Men'', criticizes the PUA community as frequently "absurd and sexist" and "pushy and problematic", saying that it encourages adversarial gender roles. However, she also argues that PUA tactics are worth understanding because they are not unique to the PUA community, but instead represent society-wide beliefs and patterns and strategies of human sexual behaviour.<ref name=":0"/> Other dating coaches, such as Sebastian Harris, publicly speak against the misogynistic tendencies of pickup artists.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.globalseducer.com/dear-woman-hater/|title=Dear Woman Hater|last=Harris|first=Sebastian|date=1 May 2016|website=Global Seducer|publisher=Sebastian Harris|access-date=24 May 2016|archive-date=9 June 2016|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160609175500/https://www.globalseducer.com/dear-woman-hater/|url-status=live}}</ref> The ] argues that PUA culture is misogynistic, and exists on a continuum of sexist behaviours and attitudes that includes rape and murder.<ref>{{Cite journal|url = http://escholarship.org/uc/item/5tw6h8nk|title = From Misogyny to Murder: Everyday Sexism and Femicide in Cross-Cultural Context|last = Rodríguez|first = Gilda|date = December 2010|journal = CSW Update|access-date = 9 June 2014|publisher = UCLA Center for the Study of Women}}</ref> | |||
=== Field Reports === | |||
Some pickup artists in the community write up "Field Reports" ("FRs") and "Lay Reports" ("LRs") detailing their experiences with women which they share on Internet forums for constructive criticism, or to serve as examples for others.<ref name=TheGame298 /> | |||
Pickup artists have received mixed to negative responses from the press and general public, with many regarding both the practice and theory as immoral, sexist, and ineffective.{{Citation needed|date=May 2023}} In 2014, following widely supported public petitions, US-based PUA speaker and instructor ] was denied entry to both the United Kingdom and Australia after he published YouTube videos explaining and demonstrating behaviors such as grabbing women by the throat and forcing their heads toward his crotch.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Sullivan|first1=Gail|title='Dating coach' Julien Blanc kicked out of Australia for crude 'pick-up' schtick|url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/11/10/dating-coach-julien-blanc-kicked-out-of-australia-for-his-controversial-tactics/|access-date=10 October 2015|newspaper=]|date=10 November 2014|archive-date=17 October 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20181017204947/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/11/10/dating-coach-julien-blanc-kicked-out-of-australia-for-his-controversial-tactics/|url-status=live}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|title=Julien Blanc: UK denies visa to 'pick-up artist'|url=https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30119100|access-date=10 October 2015|work=BBC News|date=19 November 2014|archive-date=9 January 2019|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190109054928/https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30119100|url-status=live}}</ref><ref>{{cite magazine|last1=Gibson|first1=Megan|title=Is This the Most Hated Man in the World?|url=https://time.com/3578387/julien-blanc-feminism-real-social-dynamics/|access-date=10 October 2015|magazine=Time|date=12 November 2014|archive-date=6 April 2019|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190406172335/http://time.com/3578387/julien-blanc-feminism-real-social-dynamics/|url-status=live}}</ref> | |||
== Controversy == | |||
The seduction community has received increased media attention,<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/cl-et-game31aug31,0,1782296.story |title=Danger: pickup artists ahead |author=Deborah Netburn |date=31 August 2005 |work=Los Angeles Times |publisher=Eddy Hartenstein |accessdate=27 November 2010}}</ref><ref name="operation">{{cite web |url=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1766167,00.html |title=Operation pick-up |author=Hugo Rifkind |date=3 September 2005 |work=The Sunday Times |publisher=Times Newspapers Limited |accessdate=27 November 2010}}</ref><ref name="dark arts">{{cite web |url=http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/s2.cfm?id=1923372005 |title=Revealed: the dark arts of the ladykiller |author=Liese Spencer |date=12 September 2005 |work=The Scotsman |publisher=Johnston Press |accessdate=27 November 2010}}</ref><ref name="Ganahl">{{cite news |last=Ganahl |first=Jane |url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/25/LVGPHEQA941.DTL |title=Ahead of the game |publisher='']'' |date=25 November 2005 |accessdate=22 December 2006}}</ref> since the publication of ]' article on the community in ''The New York Times'',<ref name="Aims Shoots"/> and his bestselling memoir ''The Game''. Response to the seduction community has been varied; it has been called ], and a review of ''The Game'' in the '']'' characterized the community as "a puerile cult of sexual conquest," and calls its tactics "sinister" and "pathetic."<ref name="Ganahl"/><ref>{{cite web |url=http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/biography/0,6121,1577189,00.html |title=Girls, if you see this man, run a mile |author=Rafael Behr |date=25 September 2005 |work=The Observer |publisher=Guardian Media Group |accessdate=27 November 2010}}</ref> According to the review, "if women in the book are sometimes treated as a commodity, they come out looking better than the men, who can be downright loathsome — and show themselves eventually to be pretty sad, dysfunctional characters." | |||
An article in the '']'' claimed that pickup artist activity "isn't the lechfest it might sound like". The article quotes the webmaster of confidentup.com defending the community: "It's no more ] than ]s or ] or going to the gym to work out...This isn't just a game of words and seduction, it's an overall life improvement."<ref>{{cite news |first=Craig |last=Malisow |title=Keeping Score |url=http://www.houstonpress.com/2005-06-02/news/keeping-score/2 |work=] |date=2 June 2005 |access-date=27 October 2009}}</ref> Strauss says, "I really think all of these routines and manipulations are just a way for a guy to get his foot in the door so that if a woman connects with him, she can still choose him" and that pickup techniques "can be used for good or evil".<ref name="macleans"/><ref name="dark arts">{{cite web |url=http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/s2.cfm?id=1923372005 |title=Revealed: the dark arts of the ladykiller |author=Liese Spencer |date=12 September 2005 |work=The Scotsman |access-date=27 November 2010 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20071014155702/http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/s2.cfm?id=1923372005 |archive-date=14 October 2007 }}</ref> He argues that "women are incredibly intuitive – the creepy guys with bad intentions don't do nearly as well as the guys who love and respect women".<ref name="Ganahl">{{cite news |last=Ganahl |first=Jane |url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/25/LVGPHEQA941.DTL |title=Ahead of the game |work=] |date=25 November 2005 |access-date=22 December 2006 |archive-date=11 March 2007 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070311032050/http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/25/LVGPHEQA941.DTL |url-status=live }}</ref> | |||
] tend to be critical of the seduction community. ] has stated that ''The Game'' "sexually objectifies women," arguing that "Nowhere from its description do you get a sense of men being helped to be human in an easy and agreeable way...it's not about having any rapport or relationship... the only thing that will help them in relationships is ] and liking women."<ref>{{cite news |last=Johnson |first=Andrew |url=http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/books/news/article308631.ece |title= Passing on 'foolproof' pick-up tips. Is this 'grooming' for adults? |publisher='']'' |date=28 August 2005 |accessdate=22 December 2006 | location=London}}</ref> | |||
An article in '']'' recounts the experience of the blogger "Dolly" with pickup artists. According to the article, Dolly was: | |||
According to an article in '']'', some feminists believe that pickup "isn't just cheesy; it's offensive."<ref>{{cite news |last=Morris |first=Dave |url=http://eye.net/eye/issue/issue_10.13.05/arts/artsweek.html |title= Get laid, get fucked |publisher='']'' |date=13 October 2005 |accessdate=22 December 2006 |archiveurl = http://web.archive.org/web/20060626123314/http://eye.net/eye/issue/issue_10.13.05/arts/artsweek.html |archivedate = 26 June 2006}}</ref> The article cites a proposal put forward by a ] writer as an alternative to the formula used by expert PUAs: "Shake my hand. 'Hi, my name is…' Treat me like a human being. Avoid seeing women as conquests and men as competition." | |||
{{blockquote|...put off by PUAs at first. But after she met more, including two from San Francisco, she wrote a letter to the ''Village Voice'' defending them, in response to the paper’s negative article on the subject in March. "PUAs try to create a fun, positive, and exciting experience for the woman," Dolly wrote. "The credo many follow is 'Leave her better than you found her.' What’s so bad about that? That they want to get laid, too? Guess what? Guys have always wanted sex and will continue to want sex. You can’t fault them for finally discovering methods that are successful."<ref name="Yogis">{{cite news |last=Yogis |first=Jaimal |url=http://www.sanfranmag.com/archives/view_story/1306/ |title=What does it take to get a date in this town? |work=] |year=2006 |access-date=22 December 2006 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20061021021508/http://www.sanfranmag.com/archives/view_story/1306/|archive-date=21 October 2006}}</ref>}} | |||
An article in the '']'' claimed that the seduction community "isn't the lechfest it might sound like." The article quotes the webmaster of ] defending the community: "It's no more ] than ]s or ] or going to the gym to work out…This isn't just a game of words and seduction, it's an overall life improvement."<ref>{{cite news |first=Craig |last=Malisow |title=Keeping Score |url=http://www.houstonpress.com/2005-06-02/news/keeping-score/2 |publisher='']'' |date=2 June 2005 |accessdate=27 October 2009}}</ref> Strauss says, "I really think all of these routines and manipulations are just a way for a guy to get his foot in the door so that if a woman connects with him, she can still choose him," and that seduction techniques "can be used for good or evil!"<ref name="macleans"/><ref name="dark arts"/> He argues that "women are incredibly intuitive — the creepy guys with bad intentions don't do nearly as well as the guys who love and respect women."<ref name="Ganahl"/> | |||
After spending three days immersed in a Mystery Method Corp (now Love Systems) seminar, journalist ] expressed his uneasiness about "a step by step tutorial for men in how to pick up women, make them comfortable in your presence, and bed them, ideally within seven hours of your first meeting". He became concerned about the ethics of an institutionally taught skill of seduction, practicing pick-up lines, acting genuine and unguarded, and gently persuading a stranger toward having sex.<ref>{{cite news |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/community/groups/index.html?plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat:a70e3396-6663-4a8d-ba19-e44939d3c44fForum:a8bc6fd8-cf9f-43ca-99a4-05fdb4342697Discussion:86aaac5a-5b7f-4a26-9cb9-03b94121ca42 |title=The Gene Pool: Sex and Deceit |author=Gene Weingarten |date=5 March 2008 |newspaper=The Washington Post |access-date=27 November 2010 |archive-date=4 June 2011 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110604142447/http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/community/groups/index.html?plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat:a70e3396-6663-4a8d-ba19-e44939d3c44fForum:a8bc6fd8-cf9f-43ca-99a4-05fdb4342697Discussion:86aaac5a-5b7f-4a26-9cb9-03b94121ca42 |url-status=live }}</ref> | |||
Several writers describe observing men in the seduction community first-hand. Some women recount experiences with men they believed to be pickup artists who tried to "pick them up," and some men recount trying out pickup techniques. A columnist for '']'' describes a negative experience with a man she believed was a pickup artist and used a lot of "negs" on her: "The problem is that some guys clearly don't know when to quit."<ref>{{cite news |last=Townsend |first=Catherine |url=http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article354165.ece |title= Sleeping Around |publisher='']'' |date=28 March 2006 |accessdate=22 December 2006 | location=London}}</ref> | |||
Journalist ] participated in a similar seminar by Strauss. Rifkind describes initially struggling with pickup techniques, eventually learning to attract women's interest, and then feeling guilty. When he attracts a woman's attention, "she is – quite honestly – looking at me like I'm the most fascinating person she's ever met. As a human being and, perhaps more crucially, as somebody with a girlfriend, I feel like absolute scum."<ref>{{Cite news|url = https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/operation-pick-up-6jktwrqj6vn|title = Operation pick up|newspaper = The Times|date = 2005-09-03|access-date = 2019-05-18|archive-date = 2019-05-18|archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20190518124548/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/operation-pick-up-6jktwrqj6vn|url-status = live}}</ref> | |||
An article in '']'' recounts the experience the blogger "Dolly," who is the "author of the popular sex blog ]" had with the seduction community. According to the article, Dolly was: | |||
==Academic research== | |||
{{cquote| put off by PUAs at first. But after she met more, including two from San Francisco, she wrote a letter to the ''Village Voice'' defending them, in response to the paper’s negative article on the subject in March. “PUAs try to create a fun, positive, and exciting experience for the woman,” Dolly wrote. “The credo many follow is ‘Leave her better than you found her.’ What’s so bad about that? That they want to get laid, too? Guess what? Guys have always wanted sex and will continue to want sex. You can’t fault them for finally discovering methods that are successful.<ref name="Yogis">{{cite news |last=Yogis |first=Jaimal |url=http://www.sanfranmag.com/archives/view_story/1306/ |title=What does it take to get a date in this town? |publisher=] |year=2006 |accessdate=22 December 2006 |archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20061021021508/http://www.sanfranmag.com/archives/view_story/1306/ |archivedate=21 October 2006}}</ref>}} | |||
An academic paper on the community, published in 2012 by Eric C. Hendriks in the journal '']'', details the value system guiding successful pickup artists based on an international study including participant observation of boot camp and "lair" meetings in Germany. The article argues that the values of successful practitioners of the "Venusian arts" are informed by an intertwining of "hedonistic goals and diffused forms of ]". According to Hendricks, the hedonistic goal of sexual satisfaction interacts in a complex fashion with a set of "disciplinarian and ascetic values", and the author stresses that these disciplinarian and ascetic values are central to the value system of performant practitioners, even though the marketing of gurus often promises an easy, effortless "quick fix".<ref name="socrates.berkeley.edu">{{cite web|url=https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~culturalanalysis/volume11/vol11_Hendriks.html|title=Cultural Analysis, Volume 11, 2012: Ascetic Hedonism / Eric C. Hendriks|access-date=2018-07-15|archive-date=2019-09-08|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190908051732/https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~culturalanalysis/volume11/vol11_Hendriks.html|url-status=live}}</ref> | |||
Andrew King's cultural history of the pickup artist in the journal '']'' argues that, as a genre, the growth of PUA philosophy parallels the rise of feminism in academic and popular culture – and in some ways can be seen as a critique of its limitations, particularly the idea of gender egalitarianism.<ref>{{cite journal |last1=King |first1=Andrew Stephen |title=Feminism's Flip Side: A Cultural History of the Pickup Artist |journal=Sexuality & Culture |volume=22 |issue=1 |pages=299–315 |doi=10.1007/s12119-017-9468-0 |language=en |issn=1095-5143|year=2018 |s2cid=148720319 }}</ref> | |||
Jaimal Yogis, the author of the article, reports trying out some of the teachings of ] and describes "having an epiphany: I can talk to anyone."<ref name="Yogis"/> For an article for the ''Times Online'', ] participated in a seminar by Neil Strauss.<ref name="operation"/> Rifkind describes initially struggling with seduction techniques, eventually learning to attract women's interest, and then feeling guilty. Rifkind writes, "After a little more practice, my 'game' is improving dramatically. I can open with fluency, and there’s an injection of confidence which comes from knowing exactly what you are going to say next." When he attracts a woman's attention, "she is — quite honestly — looking at me like I’m the most fascinating person she’s ever met. As a human being and, perhaps more crucially, as somebody with a girlfriend, I feel like absolute scum." | |||
Consistent with this line of thinking, psychologist Petra Boynton has stated that there is "no evidence of effectiveness" for any claims by pickup artists.<ref>{{cite news|url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/6987982/Pick-up-artists-online-seduction-and-dating-tips.html |archive-url=https://ghostarchive.org/archive/20220112/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/6987982/Pick-up-artists-online-seduction-and-dating-tips.html |archive-date=2022-01-12 |url-access=subscription |url-status=live | location=London | work=The Daily Telegraph | first=Tom | last=Chivers | title=Pick-up artists, online seduction and dating tips | date=14 January 2010}}{{cbignore}}</ref> On the other hand, a 2012 academic review article in '']'' by Nathan Oesch and Igor Miklousic argues that many of the principles advocated by the community – including generating attraction, establishing rapport, and achieving mutual seduction – appear to have a degree of evidence-based support in social, physiological, and evolutionary psychology.<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Oesch |first1=Nathan |title=The Dating Mind: Evolutionary Psychology and the Emerging Science of Human Courtship |journal=Evolutionary Psychology |volume=10 |issue=5 |pages=899–909 |doi=10.1177/147470491201000511 |language=en |issn=1474-7049 |year=2012 |doi-access=free |pmid=23253794 |pmc=10429087 }}</ref> | |||
After spending three days immersed in a Mystery Method Corp (now ]) seminar, ] expressed his uneasiness about "a step by step tutorial for men in how to pick up women, make them comfortable in your presence, and bed them, ideally within seven hours of your first meeting" and wondered aloud, "Is there something inherently wrong with the notion of seduction as a classroom-taught skill, complete with a long hierarchy of 'lines' that work, seemingly spontaneous topics of conversation that are anything but spontaneous, tricks for seeming 'vulnerable', and tips on how to behave so as to deliver subtle but effective nonverbal inducements to intimacy?"<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/community/groups/index.html?plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat:a70e3396-6663-4a8d-ba19-e44939d3c44fForum:a8bc6fd8-cf9f-43ca-99a4-05fdb4342697Discussion:86aaac5a-5b7f-4a26-9cb9-03b94121ca42 |title=The Gene Pool: Sex and Deceit |author=Gene Weingarten |date=5 March 2008 |work=The Washington Post |publisher=Katharine Weymouth |accessdate=27 November 2010}}</ref> | |||
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Members and former teachers of the seduction community have been known to splinter off and create their own companies due to ethical differences. Some of these companies completely disassociate themselves with the PUA industry.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.blog.rlaschool.com/2011/01/20/the-morality-of-understanding-attraction/ |title=The Morality Of Understanding Attraction |author=Jason Page |date=20 January 2011 |work=Real Life Attraction |accessdate=1 March 2011}}</ref> | |||
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Pickup artists (PUA) are people whose goals are seduction and sexual success. Predominantly heterosexual men, they often self-identify as the seduction community or the pickup community. This community exists through various channels, including internet newsletters, blogs, seminars and one-on-one coaching, forums, groups, and local clubs known as "lairs".
The rise of "seduction science", "game", or "studied charisma" has been attributed to modern forms of dating and social norms between sexes which have developed from a perceived increase in the equality of women in Western society and changes to traditional gender roles. Commentators in the media have described "game" as sexist or misogynistic.
History
Modern pickup artist practices have been traced to the 1967 publication of The Art of Erotic Seduction by rational emotive psychotherapist Albert Ellis and Roger Conway and the 1970 publication of How to Pick Up Girls! by Eric Weber. These how-to guides encourage men to meet women through the "pickup".
Ross Jeffries taught workshops, promoted a collection of neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) techniques called "seed seduction", and in 1991 published How to Get the Women You Desire into Bed. Other exponents established themselves in roughly the same era but lacked contact with each other. In 1994, Lewis De Payne, then a student of Jeffries, founded the newsgroup alt.seduction.fast (ASF). This spawned a network of other Internet discussion forums, email lists, blogs, and sites where seduction information and techniques could be shared.
Other pickup teachers emerged with competing methods, and became known within this community as "seduction gurus" or "gurus". Their study groups gradually developed into meeting groups for the seduction community, known as "seduction lairs". A lair typically involves an online forum and in-person group meetings. In the late 1990s, Clifford Lee began his Cliff's List Seduction Letter as a central independent voice of the community.
The community was brought to greater mainstream awareness with the 1999 film Magnolia, in which Tom Cruise portrayed a charismatic yet emotionally troubled pickup guru who was loosely modeled on Jeffries. In 2005, journalist Neil Strauss published The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists, an exposé of the community which reached the New York Times Bestseller List and made pickup techniques known to a wider audience. The community was further publicized with the television show The Pick Up Artist (2007–2008) on VH1.
Concepts
Many pickup artists (commonly abbreviated PUA) work on their "game" by improving their understanding of psychology, their confidence, and self-esteem – collectively termed "inner game" – and their social skills and physical appearance (physical fitness, fashion sense, grooming) – collectively termed the "outer game". Many members of the community believe that one's "game" is refined through regular practice, with the idea that the abilities needed to interact in this way with women can be improved.
The pickup community has a special terminology for describing "game" and male–female dynamics and social interaction. Learned through study groups and products, this creates an insular community. Pickup terms are borrowed from everyday English vocabulary or from male-dominated fields like business, sports and the military, and can be quite opaque for the unindoctrinated.
"Night game" refers to meeting women at night in bars and clubs, whereas "day game" refers to meeting women during the day in the street or shopping malls. Traditionally, night game has been associated with "indirect game", which is to delay showing interest in the women, whereas day game has been associated with "direct game", which is to declare your interest in the women upfront.
Industry
The former pickup artist Roosh V, who has since recanted aspects of his past and converted to Oriental Orthodox Christianity, had self-published 14 books describing techniques for seducing women. According to Salon, such books are the "cash cow" of the pickup industry. The culture surrounding pickup has spawned an entire industry servicing those who want to improve their social and seduction skills with consultations and in-field training.
The media attention and rapid increase in pickup gurus have led to commercialization and competition. Gurus sell workshops, books, e-books, DVDs, CDs, online video courses, and video-call mentoring over the Internet.
Practices
There are a variety of schools of thought that promote different pickup methods. These range from approaches that are very indirect and which stress starting with casual conversation, to methods in which attraction is communicated very openly and directly. Pickup artists generally do not believe in relying on good looks, instinct, or social conventions, but in achieving success through empirical means.
Pickup artists generally assume that men should assume a dominant mindset – leading and initiating contacts and the conversation in general – in order to be more masculinely attractive, and that women will not generally initiate contact. This presumption requires men to begin any interaction by approaching the woman. Pickup artists often approach repetitively, alone or with a wingman. Strauss describes a pickup artist who conducted 125 approaches in one day. The "Mystery Method" encourages approaching groups of strangers (a "set") and giving attention to all members of the group without initiating conversation with the "target" until attraction has been established. One way to achieve attraction is by acting as a leader of men and already enjoying social proof from other women. In order to avoid appearing needy, one can use a "false time constraint", by pretending to leave the "set". Once the "target" has given indicators of interest (IOI), the pickup artist is free to show interest in the woman in return, by qualifying her on qualities he appreciates in her. Next, emotional connection is established with the woman through a series of venue changes, and talking about progressively deeper topics, such as involving vulnerability and plans for the future. During this time, the man escalates physical connection step by step via touching and "kinoing". After spending on average up to ~10 hours with the woman, sexual relationship may be initiated. However, according to PUA teachings, women have a tendency to avoid sex due to "last minute resistance", since historically getting pregnant has been more risky for women than for men. On the other hand, men have a similar tendency to avoid approaching women in the first place due to "approach anxiety" - the fear of rejection.
The Jeffries version of pickup is based on neuro-linguistic programming (NLP), a theory that claims the existence of a connection between neurological processes, language, and behavioral patterns learned through experience. This version of pickup supposes that one can model a person to obtain their skills. However, scientific consensus is that NLP is a pseudoscience and its methods have no evidentiary base. Later pickup gurus abandoned Jeffries's claims while continuing to employ the basic elements of NLP. Strauss claims that NLP was quickly rendered obsolete by the rise of techniques based on social dynamics, such as those employed in attraction-comfort-seduction progressions.
Negging is one of Erik von Markovik's most infamous techniques, and has been described as the practice of giving a woman a backhanded compliment to weaken her confidence and thereby render her more vulnerable to seduction. Depriving the woman of obsequious validation and attention may influence her to actively seek such from the man who negs her. Strauss states that the primary purpose of negging is for the man to disqualify himself as a potential suitor, thereby allowing for interaction on less loaded terms. Journalist Conor Friedersdorf condemned the use of negging by pick-up artists, but admitted that it did appear to be effective at generating attraction from some women.
"Pawning" is trading or discarding an unwanted woman as proof of the PUA's own social value, and "going caveman" is escalating physical contact while reducing verbal contact.
One constellation of PUA techniques, called "last minute resistance" (LMR) tactics, is designed to convince a woman to have sex after she has indicated that she does not want to. This includes tactics from those which are mutually beneficial – such as being okay with the woman being on her period – to callous manipulation and rape.
Criticism
Having a notorious reputation outside the community, the PUA movement has been described as sexist, misogynistic, and pseudoscientific. Roosh V has been called hateful and a misogynist for his views on women and sex by the Southern Poverty Law Center, and accused of rape advocacy and multiple instances of rape depicted in his books.
Feminist BDSM writer and activist Clarisse Thorn, author of Confessions of a Pickup Artist Chaser: Long Interviews with Hideous Men, criticizes the PUA community as frequently "absurd and sexist" and "pushy and problematic", saying that it encourages adversarial gender roles. However, she also argues that PUA tactics are worth understanding because they are not unique to the PUA community, but instead represent society-wide beliefs and patterns and strategies of human sexual behaviour. Other dating coaches, such as Sebastian Harris, publicly speak against the misogynistic tendencies of pickup artists. The UCLA Center for the Study of Women argues that PUA culture is misogynistic, and exists on a continuum of sexist behaviours and attitudes that includes rape and murder.
Pickup artists have received mixed to negative responses from the press and general public, with many regarding both the practice and theory as immoral, sexist, and ineffective. In 2014, following widely supported public petitions, US-based PUA speaker and instructor Julien Blanc was denied entry to both the United Kingdom and Australia after he published YouTube videos explaining and demonstrating behaviors such as grabbing women by the throat and forcing their heads toward his crotch.
An article in the Houston Press claimed that pickup artist activity "isn't the lechfest it might sound like". The article quotes the webmaster of confidentup.com defending the community: "It's no more deceptive than push-up bras or heels or going to the gym to work out...This isn't just a game of words and seduction, it's an overall life improvement." Strauss says, "I really think all of these routines and manipulations are just a way for a guy to get his foot in the door so that if a woman connects with him, she can still choose him" and that pickup techniques "can be used for good or evil". He argues that "women are incredibly intuitive – the creepy guys with bad intentions don't do nearly as well as the guys who love and respect women".
An article in San Francisco Magazine recounts the experience of the blogger "Dolly" with pickup artists. According to the article, Dolly was:
...put off by PUAs at first. But after she met more, including two from San Francisco, she wrote a letter to the Village Voice defending them, in response to the paper’s negative article on the subject in March. "PUAs try to create a fun, positive, and exciting experience for the woman," Dolly wrote. "The credo many follow is 'Leave her better than you found her.' What’s so bad about that? That they want to get laid, too? Guess what? Guys have always wanted sex and will continue to want sex. You can’t fault them for finally discovering methods that are successful."
After spending three days immersed in a Mystery Method Corp (now Love Systems) seminar, journalist Gene Weingarten expressed his uneasiness about "a step by step tutorial for men in how to pick up women, make them comfortable in your presence, and bed them, ideally within seven hours of your first meeting". He became concerned about the ethics of an institutionally taught skill of seduction, practicing pick-up lines, acting genuine and unguarded, and gently persuading a stranger toward having sex.
Journalist Hugo Rifkind participated in a similar seminar by Strauss. Rifkind describes initially struggling with pickup techniques, eventually learning to attract women's interest, and then feeling guilty. When he attracts a woman's attention, "she is – quite honestly – looking at me like I'm the most fascinating person she's ever met. As a human being and, perhaps more crucially, as somebody with a girlfriend, I feel like absolute scum."
Academic research
An academic paper on the community, published in 2012 by Eric C. Hendriks in the journal Cultural Analysis, details the value system guiding successful pickup artists based on an international study including participant observation of boot camp and "lair" meetings in Germany. The article argues that the values of successful practitioners of the "Venusian arts" are informed by an intertwining of "hedonistic goals and diffused forms of innerworldly asceticism". According to Hendricks, the hedonistic goal of sexual satisfaction interacts in a complex fashion with a set of "disciplinarian and ascetic values", and the author stresses that these disciplinarian and ascetic values are central to the value system of performant practitioners, even though the marketing of gurus often promises an easy, effortless "quick fix".
Andrew King's cultural history of the pickup artist in the journal Sexuality & Culture argues that, as a genre, the growth of PUA philosophy parallels the rise of feminism in academic and popular culture – and in some ways can be seen as a critique of its limitations, particularly the idea of gender egalitarianism.
Consistent with this line of thinking, psychologist Petra Boynton has stated that there is "no evidence of effectiveness" for any claims by pickup artists. On the other hand, a 2012 academic review article in Evolutionary Psychology by Nathan Oesch and Igor Miklousic argues that many of the principles advocated by the community – including generating attraction, establishing rapport, and achieving mutual seduction – appear to have a degree of evidence-based support in social, physiological, and evolutionary psychology.
Notable members
See also
- Don Juanism – Desire in a man to have sex with many different female partners
- Hookup culture – Overview of casual sex encounters without commitment
- Libertine – Person who rejects common moral or sexual restraints that are deemed undesirable
- Masculism – Advocacy for the rights and interests of males
- Manosphere – Collection of masculist and misogynistic websites and forums
- Men's rights movement – Social movement concerned with discrimination against men
- One-night stand – Brief sexual relationship
- Pick-up line – Romantic conversation opener
- Playboy lifestyle – Wealthy man's life of pleasure
- Promiscuity – Practice of having casual sex frequently with different partners
- Rake (stock character) – Man habituated to immoral conduct
- Sexual capital – Social value from sexual attractiveness
Notable books
- Strauss, Neil (2005). The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists. ReganBooks. ISBN 0-06-055473-8.
- Strauss, Neil (2007). Rules of the Game. HarperCollins. ISBN 978-0060554736.
- Browne, Joy (2006). Dating for dummies. Wiley. ISBN 0-471-76870-7.
- Markovik, Erik von (Mystery); Chris Odom (2007). The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed. St. Martin's Press. ISBN 978-0312360115.
- Greene, Robert (2004). The Art of Seduction. Profile Books. ISBN 1861977697.
- O'Neill, Rachel (2018). Seduction: Men, Masculinity and Mediated Intimacy. Wiley ISBN 9781509521555.
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