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Parent category of the ] you created is currently under deletion discussion , but I do not see any notification on your talk page. Every creator of a category suppose to be notified by the rules. Cheers, ] (]) 20:33, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


:Thanks for the heads up. Looks like I created the new category a week after the CfD discussion began; were I aware of the discussion I would have waited to see its outcome. I don't have time at this very moment to read through all the comments there, but it seems as though part of the debate centers around the question of whether 'political prisoner' is a valid concept. Is that more or less your reading of it? If so, that's...interesting. ] (]) 20:54, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
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::Ah, I've read a bit more carefully now. I think there are valid concerns with the categories, but they don't outweigh their utility, in my view. I've replied. ] (]) 21:39, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
:::There is a general trend to remove helpful categories that are related to history and politics, including a lot of cats on terrorism-related subjects and anything that can be defined as "victims of political repression" (the latter was referred to as "victimology" during CfD discussion). May be this is because of US-centered views of contributors who work with the categories. For example, defining person as a "terrorist" is something controversial in modern-day US politics. After reading something like ], one can conclude that there is no such thing as terrorism because no one knows what terrorism is. See . You understood it correctly: these contributors believe that there is no such thing as political prisoner. ] (]) 01:44, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
::::That's an interesting parallel, but it complicates the issue for me. I wouldn't feel comfortable with 'terrorist' as a category; it seems to be incompatible with ], and possibly ] (terrorism generally being regarded as a crime, but one where habeas corpus often doesn't apply. My understanding is that we're not suppose to describe people as criminals unless they have been so convicted). Moreover it's a pejorative and often politically charged term that can be applied extremely broadly. China, for instance, calls Tibetans who try to go to India without permission 'terrorists.' I think we need to be much more conservative when applying negatively charged labels like this, especially to living persons. ] (]) 02:56, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::I think this is relatively simple, even in the most controversial of controversial cases. We have already categories "terrorism by country". Let's take any country, such as ]. It includes a number of pages about notable terrorism acts in the country. There are no doubts that each of them is actually a terrorism act. Exclude all disputable cases, like US bombing of Japan during war time. Find people who actually did each terrorism act (usually they are convicted or at large) and include them in the corresponding category "terrorist by country". This way one can avoid marking people who are actually not terrorists (your example). ] (]) 03:19, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::That seems reasonable enough, though I would still rather not tread that minefield....] (]) 04:32, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::It seems that I simply like controversial subjects because they are not boring. But yes, editing any controversial subject if it cases anyone's objections is a waste of time and invitation for sanctions because there is no ] in this environment. ] (]) 15:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::I see. Well, the battleground has lost its charms for me (not that it ever really had any). Lately I've enjoyed writing about deceased international legal scholars. I've developed a real fondness for ], who seems like a real rule-bound academic, with maybe a touch of pedantry. I feel I can relate to him a little, and best of all, no one comes along to engage in mass section blanking on pages like this ;) ] (]) 07:04, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
:You did excellent work with this article. He looks to me as a very interesting man. So, he said in 1935 that "Nobody except perhaps Russia would gain from our victory in such a war". True. And as we know, Stalin probably already planned to gain from this war during this time or may be a few years later. And he ''actually gained'' his new communist empire, including Eastern Europe, North Korea, and China, from the war . But ''that'' was mostly deleted by Russian political partisans here. ] (]) 18:42, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
::I really ought to devote more time to Soviet history. It was one of my first loves, you know, and helped disabuse me of utopian fantasies. But China ultimately proved far too interesting. ] (]) 19:37, 29 September 2012 (UTC)


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That's a fair deal. I will take a look at this article as soon as I address all outstanding issues with my current reviews. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]&#124;]</sub> 15:19, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
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Re: "List of wars and anthropogenic disasters by death toll"--The Falun Gong numbers have been revised downward to reflect changing estimates of the overall Laogai System by the Laogai Research Foundation. In short: Low: 9000. High: 120,000. Median: 65,000. All the numbers should be rounded off--to do otherwise is to give an illusion of precision in an investigation which is still in the early stages. Please see a discussion of the revised figures at: http://eastofethan.com/2011/03/10/how-many-harvested-revisited/


It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these ]. Thanks, ] (]) 10:55, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
"Kilgour-Matas report" accurately reflects the revision: "Ethan Gutmann, adjunct fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, calculates that the number of practitioners killed for organs could be as high as 120,000, with a low estimate of 9,000, and 65,000 being the median. Estimates have been revised downwards from earlier numbers to reflect changing estimates of the overall Laogai System by the Laogai Research Foundation."
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== a barnstar for you ==
* Sorry I didn't see this until now; I have been on an extended vacation from civilization. I'm still rather tied up for the next week or two, so given that you have access to these sources, I suggest you go ahead and make the adjustment. My recommendation is to use the revised median estimate which, as Gutmann notes, is more or less in line with the estimate from Kilgour-Matas. It still seems unrealistically high to me (and I hope I'm right), but it's nice to see that Gutmann is not too far off in left field. ] (]) 03:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)


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I noticed you are editing the Yan'an rectification article. I created ], which needs more work, research, etc. Yan'an was when the CCP settled all these manipulation and brainwashing techniques, so it's important. You may want to have a go of that one above as well. --<font style="bold">]</font><font color="black" style="bold">]</font> 05:50, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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:Well, everyone's read Lifton. I might take a look later. Will add to my list, at least. ] (]) 10:37, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks! ] (]) 16:45, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
==Dukie==
You may be right ], but they are at Duke, and possibly very tenured. Take care, ] (]) 04:53, 10 April 2010 (UTC)


Good job. I started ], red linked within in, you might find more on him. I noticed a lot of bare google book URLs. Just paste them into and it'll draw them up for you, just click last name to reverse author names to surname first♦ ] 17:52, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Hah hah. One of my pet peeves are these Brave New World academics and their nihilistic language games. ] (]) 05:00, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
*I wish I could talk or write like one, since that would be very beneficial to my career. ] (]) 17:23, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps, but at what cost? To write like that, you have to think like that. ] (]) 23:29, 13 April 2010 (UTC)


:Looks like a good start. I'll take a closer look in a few days. I love MacMurray's comment about Macleay, though evidently he felt badly afterwards, as he struck through it in his final submission to the state department. ] (]) 05:30, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
== Copyediting ==


If it interests you at any point, would you mind taking a look at ] and give it a readthrough? I just stumbled upon the article a few days ago, and gave it a facelift, but much work still needs to be done. ]+<small>(])</small> 02:59, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
:Thank you for the notice. I was out of town for the last week; I will certainly read it and make changes as I go. ] (]) 13:27, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
::You might also be interested in ] and ]. There's a large amount of untranslated sources and POV that needs to be assessed.--] (]) 15:26, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Thank you. I wish I could split my body; life is full. ] (]) 09:50, 26 April 2010 (UTC)


==Text of the Straight Goods article== == Judicial system of the PRC ==
Here's the full text FYI. Forgive the messy formatting. --<font style="bold">]</font><font color="black" style="bold">]</font> 02:55, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


I was just looking at the talk page history for ], and saw your (very old) comment. This is likely the longest article I've found that cites no references. It's strange how these barren deserts emerge on Misplaced Pages, and on top-importance articles no less. In any case, I'm thinking of having a crack at reordering the page. If you have an ongoing interest in the topic, please partake! Regards, ] (]) 06:15, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Dateline: Monday, May 31, 2010
:Indeed! It looks like a lot of that was due to the wholesale copying, which has since been deleted. Now the article is needing expansion again, hopefully this time with a better balance of outside assessments of judicial independence, domestic perspectives, and good old basic facts. -- ] (]) 00:07, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Judge rules that Falun Gong newspaper acted in the public interest.
by John Gordon Miller, Ryerson University
An important victory for investigative journalism has been won in Quebec, but most journalists probably overlooked it.
That's too bad, because it demonstrates that good journalism can sometimes be found in unlikely places and that "public interest" and "responsible journalism" are increasingly being recognized by the courts in Canada.


::Yea....this has been on my list for a long time now. I guess I'll try to revisit it soon. I might start with proposing an outline on the talk page and fleshing it out from there. We'll see. ] (]) 05:31, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Although publisher Crescent Chau denied being an agent of Beijing, the court found his explanations for how he funded his special editions were "to say the least, nebulous."


== Liao Yiwu speech ==
Quebec Superior Court Justice Catherine Mandeville sided with the Montreal publisher of The Epoch Times, a small newspaper serving the Chinese community, which was sued for defamation by the publisher of a rival paper, La Presse Chinoise.
A series of Epoch Times stories examined La Presse Chinoise's publisher, Crescent Chau, and how he managed to publish 100,000 copies of four special editions of his newspaper and distribute them free of charge in Chinese communities across Canada. La Presse Chinoise usually circulates a mere 4,000 copies, sells them for 60 cents each, and limits distribution to Montreal and a few copies to Ottawa.
The special editions carried no advertising or news, just articles denouncing and calling for the elimination of Falun Gong, a spiritual group that has been violently suppressed in China since being outlawed in 1999. The articles repeated the Chinese regime's most malicious, unsubstantiated charges against Falun Gong practitioners ¡ª that they engage in bestiality, vampirism, murder and suicide.
Chau sued The Epoch Times for libel, asking for nearly a quarter million dollars in damages.
The Epoch Times, founded in 2000 by practitioners of Falun Gong, examined Chau and his business and wrote a series of investigative articles that suggested he was acting on behalf of Beijing. The articles appear to be thoroughly and professionally reported, which isn't always the case in the often under-resourced ethnocultural press. Epoch Times reporters interviewed a former Chinese diplomat who offered insight into Beijing's influence over overseas media, and reviewed Chau's own public statements and testimony made before the European Parliament and US House of Representatives.
Justice Mandeville ruled that the paper acted in the public interest and its articles expressed "legitimate concerns and constitute an opinion which is drawn from a factual premise and not made for the purpose of abusively attacking the reputation of Mr. Chau." She said it's "a case of the biter complaining about being bitten."
Although Chau denied being an agent of Beijing, the court found his explanations for how he funded his special editions were "to say the least, nebulous." Under Quebec law, Chau bore the burden of convincing the court that The Epoch Times failed to exercise a standard of care, and he clearly did not do that.
This case is a significant victory for a publisher that has come under some suspicion because of its ties to the Falun Gong ideology. In 2006, the paper's credibility was damaged when one of its journalists hurled insults at Chinese President Hu Jintao at a White House briefing. President George W Bush apologized to the Chinese for the incident. In turn, The Epoch Times apologized to the US president, although it denied any direct ties to, or funding from, Falun Gong.
But in the Quebec case, the paper's reporting stood up to the court's scrutiny, and we should all be grateful for their careful scrutiny. Beijing has used similar lawsuits to silence critics, but they weren't allowed to get away with it this time.
John Gordon Miller has been an award-winning reporter, a senior news executive, chair of a journalism school, an author, a teacher, a researcher and a consultant. He’s been professor of journalism at Ryerson for 21 years, following a 20-year career as an editor and reporter. Most of that was spent at the Toronto Star, where he was foreign editor, founding editor of the Sunday Star, weekend editor, deputy managing editor, and acting managing editor.
eMail: jmiller@ryerson.ca<mailto:jmiller@ryerson.ca> Website: http://www.ryerson.ca/journalism/facultydirectory/emeritus/miller.html
http://www.straightgoods.ca/2010/ViewArticle.cfm?Ref=554


Hello, I saw the speech live on German TV (www.daserste.de) this Sunday. Unfortunately no full text of the speech seems to be available online anywhere now - neither in audio or video nor in text form. I think I will be able to provide a source once Monday's newspaper are out in Germany. -- ] (]) 03:19, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Okay, thanks, though I think this has already been looked at by another editor. I see there is some conflict on the page now, in fact. ] (]) 14:05, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


:I see. In that case, I am going to remove the material for now. Misplaced Pages is quite strict about sourcing in biographies of living persons, as you can read about ]. You are welcome to restore the material when a source is available (you can consult the article's history to see what you wrote before—everything is archived here). You may also want to familiarize yourself with ]. Happy editing! ] (]) 03:28, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
== Political Education in the PRC ==


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*Shouldn't the title be "Political education in the People's Republic of China" (given the articles like , and ], ], ], etc. I think they should adopt a consistent name.
*Use the ref name function when referring multiple times to the same source. See for an example. And if it's multiple pages from the same book, I recommend this: <nowiki><ref>Townsend 1967, p. 181</ref> </nowiki>; though you're free to choose your own way. ] (]) 17:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)


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I moved it. ] (]) 18:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
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Shoot, good catch, and thanks.] (]) 19:39, 12 November 2010 (UTC)


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== Organ harvesting of Falun Gong ==
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::Seems like a worthwhile initiative. I've started adding project banners to a few pages that would fall under the purview of this project. ] (]) 22:55, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
FYI, whether that page should be deleted or not is being discussed . The background is that a couple of anti-Falun Gong activists got it deleted, then some rational editors rebuilt it and now it's being discussed again whether it should be deleted. You can make your comment, if you like. I commend you to edit these articles more actively: they need the input from non-partisan people who know the facts. I mostly refrain from major edits these days, despite the gross inadequacies on the pages. <font style="bold">]</font><font color="black" style="bold">]</font> 04:12, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Back mid-November? That seems to coincide with the expected concluding time of a certain political party's largest confab... not that there would be any connection. ] (]) 20:53, 1 November 2012 (UTC)


::::I'm not totally offline till mid-November. Just dealing with some demanding writing deadlines and such. Come to think of it, one of those deadlines is related to the congress... ;) ] (]) 20:58, 1 November 2012 (UTC)


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Editing on Misplaced Pages can be stressful at times, and this is understood. I do have sympathy with those who get frustrated. However, I would also ask that you refrain from making any personal comments in any area of Misplaced Pages in future. Focus on the content and not your assumption about the person's motives. If you feel that you are unable to conduct yourself in a reasonable manner; that editing on Misplaced Pages causes you stress; that you get enraged when other editors change your text and you are unable to politely discuss the matter or ask for assistance and would rather abuse the other editors then perhaps Misplaced Pages is not the place for you.


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I look fwd to your reply to . --] <small>] • (])</small> 14:05, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
::We're starting to clarify things, so I have . --] <small>] • (])</small> 15:26, 2 November 2012 (UTC)


== ] ==
SilkTork, thanks for the suggestion. I have removed my initial comment from the discussion, and I offer apologies for contributing to the less-than-diplomatic tone. I suppose I should consider this my initiation into the rather unfamiliar world of highly charged Falun Gong-related discussions. I am not accustomed to editing articles that are as controversial as this one, and will attempt to be more sensitive going forward.


Dear Homunculus, Please, if you have time, take a look at the artice on ] I just created. I just want thoughts on the article, whether positive or negetive, from a long time China hand. I am still trying to add content about the ] and ] but it is an uphill struggle. Please edit, suggest, or critque. :) ] (]) 17:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
That said, I'm not sure I appreciate being pigeon-holed as a pro-Falun Gong editor. I am certainly sympathetic with respect to the human rights violations against Falun Gong followers in China. But my interests lie with ensuring that these article reflect the most accurate information and rigorous available scholarship. I do not care for the arbitrary suppression of relevant information. Suppressing information whose conclusions support the allegations made by Falun Gong does not make that information biased, nor does it lessen its neutrality or credibility. It may simply mean that the Falun Gong accusations are relatively well supported by the evidence. Lobbying for the inclusion of such information, when and where it is appropriate, does not make me pro-Falun Gong.


In any case, thanks for bringing me in line. ] (]) 16:48, 22 November 2010 (UTC) :Gerald, good to hear from you. I'm a bit busy at the moment, but will take a look when the opportunity arises. ] (]) 17:38, 8 November 2012 (UTC)


::Breaking news - ] in now choosen asPresident of China.<ref name="Pres PBS">{{cite web | url=http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2012/11/chinese-congress.html | title=China to Choose New Slate of Leaders: How Will It Affect the U.S.? | publisher=PBS NewsHour | date=November 8, 2012 | accessdate=November 09, 2012 | author=Epatko, Larisa}}</ref>
== Create/Appoint ==


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Please see the meanings of "create" in the dictionary... "Appoint" is actually the wrong word since "appointments" have durations, whereas "creations" do not. --] (]) 03:34, 27 November 2010 (UTC)


==I Have some extra time, need some assistance?==
Thanks NIu. I've seen the two used interchangeable (ie., "Henry was appointed Constable of Dover Castle and Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports. In 1494, he was created Duke of York. He was subsequently appointed Earl Marshal of England and Lord Lieutenant of Ireland"). In some cases, however, the context in which the term 'created' is used is not entirely clear, and I changed to 'appoint' because it seemed less likely to be misinterpreted. 'Appointed' does not necessarily imply a limited duration; it can simply mean to "name officially to a position." Moreover, when a person is appointed as emperor (for instance), is that not a temporary position, one which will subsequently be assumed by someone else? Please let me know if I'm missing some degree of nuance in the difference between positions to which people are created vs. appointed. If I'm wrong in my thinking on this, I'll be happy to concede the point. ] (]) 04:13, 27 November 2010 (UTC)


Hello again Hom, this is Scott, the Gutter oil guy. Gre's have tired me out and I'm ready to get back to wiki for a bit.
:As you can see above, "appoint" generally refers to an office, whereas "create" generally refers to a noble title. --] (]) 07:50, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Any thing of importance that I can assist with or do the leg work on? Let me know ] (]) 09:14, 25 November 2012 (UTC)


:Hey Scott, glad you're back. I think I left you a note a while ago asking if you'd be interested in helping with an article I created on the ] in China. That one is in reasonably good shape now, but it could still be expanded. I also started work on the related ], and it needs lots of work. Let me know if you're interested. I may think of other things down the line. Cheers, ] (]) 01:34, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
::Fair enough ] (]) 05:32, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
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Hi again. Mind if I ask what this was about: ? BTW, I like your user page! ] 21:46, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
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:That was a mistake, hence the self-revert. In light of our earlier exchange, when I saw your name pop up on my watchlist today I decided to check in and see what you were working on. I think I must have accidentally hit "rollback" when perusing the article history, and didn't even notice until a while later. I've concluded that rollback rights don't get along with checking wikipedia on small touch screens—too much room for error. Anyway, that's not to say I agreed or disagreed with your edits. If you scroll up on this page, you will learn why I no longer contribute to that topic. You may find it enlightening. ] (]) 01:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Homunculus. Well done on persevering in what is a rather difficult editing environment, even now, on Falun Gong-related pages. I want to suggest something, and please let me know if you are interested. It is to see whether you want to proceed with submitting an arbitration enforcement case against PCPP. I posted it , but was informed that that was the wrong place. The right place is at ]. When I went there to inspect what was expected, I noticed the line ''"Anyone requesting enforcement who comes with unclean hands runs the risk of their request being summarily denied or being sanctioned themselves."'' Now, to be quite honest, I do not think my hands are dirty in this case. However, I think that PCPP could easily claim that because of my history, not always glorious, of editing the pages, he may turn that around and try to have me disqualified from making the complaint.


::Wow. That's kind of outrageous. I mean the arbitration, not that you were following my contributions or anything ;) Can you do anything about it? ] 13:50, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
So, I am first checking with you to see if you want to run with the complaint. Of course, you can do what you want with the text I have assembled. I am sure you have your own way of writing and putting things. I just wrote it up quickly. You can take it as a reference for your own complaint. But I want to see first whether you have a wish to do that. I'm told by ResidentApologist that one doesn't have to be a saint to make a complaint. But I believe it will be more straightforward if PCPP is not able to so quickly divert attention onto the messenger; my faith in the Archimedean neutrality of Misplaced Pages sanctioning processes never recovered after what happened last year. If I don't hear back from you within 24 hours, I'll do it myself, no problem. --<font style="bold">]</font><font color="black" style="bold">]</font> 20:43, 18 February 2011 (UTC)


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== Edits to Propaganda in PRC == == Hello old co editor ==
I see you've been busy. What projects are currently on the docket and need help? I need to return to things slow so helping a bit with others would suit me well. Let me know. Take care hom. I can't sign <dounai> <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:10, 20 August 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:Hey Scott, good to hear from you again! I haven't been very active on Misplaced Pages these days either; several months ago I moved to a new country for a job opportunity, got busy, and then inertia set in. I think the last time I reached out to you I was working on articles about NIMBY protests in China (eg. in ] and ]), and thought you might like to edit in that area. I'm also thinking to update/create some new pages on Chinese rights defenders like Cheng Hai, Li Chengpeng or Guo Feixiong, all of whom have been in the news lately. More broadly, I've found articles related to the Chinese environment to be underdeveloped, but it's a fascinating and important field. Do you have ideas for what you'd like to work on? If so, I'm happy to help. Maybe you can provide some motivation for me this time...] (]) 02:38, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Why did you remove the section on non-political propaganda? I was the one that contributed to the material and it was fully sourced. It provided link to the monthly agenda to a local propaganda department. The website is in Chinese but does not invalidate it being a legit source. In fact, it is authoritative, because it came directly from the government on a subject matter that involves the conduct of a government.


The use of specific example is very important to this article because it help the viewers understand how the propaganda is system works in practice. And it is also a process not very well understood by many English readers. ] (]) 15:51, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


Sounds good....I need to get my mind focused on something and occupied for certain reasons...I'm not working right now so I have lots of time. Wiki would be great for that. Can you help with the chinese articles assuming your chinese is much better than mine? I could do english and find articles on google books or whatever that is...I have interest in the blind lawyer, bo xi lai cover up, and I got an offer from a chinese student to help with the following
:I hope I didn't offend you with that edit, and I'm not going to assert that mine was necessarily the right decision. But I'll explain my rationale, and if you don't find it compelling, you can add the content back in and I will not fight you on it. As I read through the article, I noticed some redundancies between the section on 'terminology' and 'non-political promotions.' I consolidated the repetitive content into the 'terminology' section, and also added there that there are some propaganda functions related to mundane public service issues. After doing this consolidation, the section on 'non-political promotions' ceased to serve much of a distinct purpose. It consisted of two examples of local-level websites which contained information on weather, job postings, etc., followed by a (sorry to say) rather poorly written, unsourced summary paragraph. I felt that the latter did not add much at this point. Now, as to the two examples provided, they seemed to be unrelated to the purpose of the article. Information on weather is not propaganda; it is not what a user expects to find on this page, nor is the dissemination of weather-related information part of the propaganda system (if you can find directives from the central propaganda department on how to report the weather, I will retract that statement, and laugh bemusedly). If you wish to argue that the CPC's propaganda department executes these functions (ie. carrying information on geography, weather, job postings, and the like), you might want to try to make your case on the page ].] (]) 21:38, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
"信息管制 和 乞讨现象" but I don't know what those are...She or He seems really interested..and sounds like there in China. Their english level seems about intermediate. Let me know Hom...You seem very devoted...Just hope you arent in China when you're writing about all this :-) So don't tell me your location.
Let me know, Take care. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:38, 22 August 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


I also have interest in alot of other stuff but having been keeping up on my china news recently...So tell me what is hot right now and undercovered. I'm up for anything....China in Africa, South America anything....let me know meanwhile I've forgotten how to use wikipedia and all the functions and I lost my email account for this dounai account so I have to have a new one before I start or just use an IP. <dounai>. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:45, 22 August 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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Sorry to be so frequent in questions...Would you be able or willing to translate some of the articles of the protest movements into Chinese so they can actually see whats going on? Many can't read english. I didn't know all of these protests for environmental things were happening and I'm very interested and I think its a start of broad stirring of the population and could be a sign of very monumental things coming. So I want to help on this issue because I love the chinese people (not gov or big business) and would like to offer a hand to repay the hospitality and warmth they gave me when I was there for over 4 years of my life. This might sound kind of mushy and idealistic but it's how I feel. I will contact the person that asked to colloborate with me and see what they want to do. Ok Hom, I'll leave you alone now...Take care. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:21, 22 August 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Hello Homunculus. Thanks for the feedback. I will research for a reliable source regarding the subject and, as soon as I find it, I will let you know. Best regards, ] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 21:05, 16 September 2011 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


my new handle is dounai99] (]) 14:53, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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: Where to start...I worked on the Chen Guangcheng article several months ago, and it was one of the more positive collaborative experiences I've had. It's now in rather good shape, but further improvements are always welcome. I also worked lots on the Bo Xilai page, which was a decidedly less positive collaborative experience. Which cover-up are you referring to? The whole spectacle of the trial, or something more specific?
'''Dear Homonculus''', your recent edits to the ] article suggest that you are a Falun Gong practitioner or sympathiser. If so, then please do not edit the articles related to that movement further. We have had endless edit wars involving Falun Gong's practitioners and enemies, with the former showing a frankly tiresome tendency to describe FG's persecution in graphic & verbose detail at every opportunity here on Misplaced Pages. Best, ] (]) 19:48, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
: My passive Chinese skills are respectable--I can read and listen well enough--but I don't think I could do an adequate translation from Enlgish. I believe several of those articles are already on the Chinese wiki, in any case. Your sentiments about the Chinese people (and government) are shared here, by the way.
:China in Africa would be an excellent and fascinating topic to expand on, and one I'd love to help with when I return from vacation. The economist has carried some fairly balanced pieces on that relationship that you may like to look into. I may not be too responsive for the next week or so, as my internet connectivity is limited, but I look forward to working with you. ] (]) 16:07, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm referring to the likelihood that he might be more innocent than commonly thought and that he just ruffled the wrong high level feathers. Plus his trial only lasted several days! Plus he was attaining a cult of personality like Mao and had his sights set on the central politburo, right, to work. What if he brought his corruption fighting with him, at that level many officials are corrupt but so far untouchable? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 04:05, 4 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Right. You might be interested in this article by Ai Weiwei on the Bo trial and what it says about the Communist Party today.. There's no doubt that Bo's trial was not fair; the way that evidence was collected, and the fact that the people testifying against him were probably doing so under duress, wouldn't hold up in a Western court of law. But there is also little doubt that evidence brought publicly against him was incomplete, and that his real transgressions—which could threaten the whole system and indict far more people if aired publicly—were kept from view. Bo was implicated in some horrific human rights abuses, but since those abuses are ongoing elsewhere, and since even higher-level authorities were involved, you'd never hear about about them the carefully stage-managed trial lest party unity and legitimacy be undermined. As for Bo's 'striking black' anti-corruption campaign, it seems to me that he was using this mainly as a pretext to take down his political opponents; he certainly did not provide fair trials either for those he accused (and then executed) on corruption charges. I don't think there was any risk that Bo would have be an advocate for openness and transparency had he risen to the Politburo Standing Committee, but there is a risk he would have destabilized the leadership transition and the power structure in other ways (ie. by consolidating too much power and influence for himself). Anyway, I'm getting caught up now, and will respond to your other notes later on today. ] (]) 10:51, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello again...I was looking at "barefoot lawyer" and noticed it didn't have a chinese version! How can this be? Only arabic. So I
left messages for 8 native chinese translators who know very good english. Hopefully a few of them will respond then they can work
together. That is a very important article for a chinese person who is having their rights trampled and wants to learn about what recourse they have. So we're both not able to translate :-(. No problem. Is Chen the blind lawyer? Seems like he has a gag order as part of his deal to come here or he's afraid for his family still in china. Hom, anything you want to work on I'll help out (not the ancient text or anything) because I need to be occupied. I will gather the info and try to write it and I think I'm an easy guy to work with because I'm a beginner and have a fairly small ego. So maybe china in africa, they are super super busy there buying influence. Take care and have a good vacation, put on the sun tan lotion! ] (]) 17:51, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
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I did wechat global censorship section while you were gone after seeing story on it. You have interest in cadmium rice in Guangdong or electronic recycling world capital also located in guang? I got bad virus from bad Misplaced Pages link on suichang county page that had cadmium blurb. Cost 200 to fix it and had to wipe disk! So be careful on these controv topics. Talk later. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:49, 30 August 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:The cadmium rice story is a good one to pursue, and relates back to the topic of food safety. I'm not sure it's related to the electronic recycling in Guangdong province (although that's also a topic that probably merits more coverage here, and not just in the Chinese context), since I think the rice mostly came from Hunan. The article ] might be one you'd like to help develop more. There's also a page ], though it's kind of a mess and could benefit from an overhaul. But yes, watch out for bad links. I'm really sorry to hear you encountered that problem.
:As for lawyers, yes, Chen is the blind lawyer. I encountered another editor a little while ago who had an apparent interest in Chinese human rights lawyers, and maybe you could suggest to him that he work on a translation of barefoot lawyers (see ]). If you decide to work on the China/Africa article, let me know—I'd be happy to pitch in where I can.] (]) 00:01, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


Hello Hom, just noticed you got back...Sorry for switching back and forth so much on my topics there's
just so much to cover and my condition causes me to not able to concentrate on one thing; you can guess
as to what it is. The electronic waste one is already covered but cadmium rice isn't so I think I'll take
that on in addition to the Africa one. I really like the Africa one and think teamwork would be good for it.
I didn't know you wrote the barefoot article before I looked for a translator. It was by chance and then
afterword I saw on your page that you wrote it! For Africa, I was thinking of having the general summary and then going
country by country with its own section. Does that sound good? You were right on the Economist having a
truckload of articles about it. What are your ideas for the Africa article? Country by country or something else.
I will try to calm down from now on because I can get a little manic if you know what I mean.
I will start with Zambia because I met a nice woman from there a while back :-) Take care.] (]) 12:19, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

On Zambia..There are already two pages that go into very light detail:
http://en.wikipedia.org/Chinese_people_in_Zambia
http://en.wikipedia.org/People%27s_Republic_of_China%E2%80%93Zambia_relations.

Should we just merge all of them or work on the current pages; you know a lot better than me based on all of your experience?] (]) 00:28, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

:I wrote the barefoot lawyers page, and have also had a hand in most other articles on Chinese human rights lawyers (], and most of the individuals listed under ]). It's a niche I got into a while ago, and just found that when I didn't know what else to work on, it was a good topic I could default to and chip away at.
:For Africa, you can start by working on improving the existing articles dealing with bilateral relationships, though I hope you'll also find time to work on the ] page. There is good material there, but it doesn't really capture the contemporary dynamics too well. ] (]) 22:55, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

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:Thanks for the note Scott. I moved to a new country, yes, but it's not censorship that's kept me from editing. Just fell out of the habit when I got busy. I've been meaning to come back and resume editing for some time—maybe a good new year's resolution? ] (]) 21:47, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi hom how you been it's been at least 2 years!! Hope your in a safe country because they've got a large target on my head for some reason and they're scooping up anyone related to me, not literally though. Would you like to collaborate on an article or two in the coming week/s. I was thinking about the Chinese in Nigeria one or nig China relations. I have enough material to expand them more than 20 fold😉. Let me know and take care. ] (]) 21:59, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

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On the "seek truth from facts " page you say ''I was sure that Mao first said this. Am I wrong?'' and of course you would have been wrong.
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Parent category of the Category:Political prisoners and detainees of China you created is currently under deletion discussion , but I do not see any notification on your talk page. Every creator of a category suppose to be notified by the rules. Cheers, My very best wishes (talk) 20:33, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Looks like I created the new category a week after the CfD discussion began; were I aware of the discussion I would have waited to see its outcome. I don't have time at this very moment to read through all the comments there, but it seems as though part of the debate centers around the question of whether 'political prisoner' is a valid concept. Is that more or less your reading of it? If so, that's...interesting. Homunculus (duihua) 20:54, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Ah, I've read a bit more carefully now. I think there are valid concerns with the categories, but they don't outweigh their utility, in my view. I've replied. Homunculus (duihua) 21:39, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
There is a general trend to remove helpful categories that are related to history and politics, including a lot of cats on terrorism-related subjects and anything that can be defined as "victims of political repression" (the latter was referred to as "victimology" during CfD discussion). May be this is because of US-centered views of contributors who work with the categories. For example, defining person as a "terrorist" is something controversial in modern-day US politics. After reading something like this, one can conclude that there is no such thing as terrorism because no one knows what terrorism is. See my comment here. You understood it correctly: these contributors believe that there is no such thing as political prisoner. My very best wishes (talk) 01:44, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
That's an interesting parallel, but it complicates the issue for me. I wouldn't feel comfortable with 'terrorist' as a category; it seems to be incompatible with WP:LABEL, and possibly WP:BLPCRIME (terrorism generally being regarded as a crime, but one where habeas corpus often doesn't apply. My understanding is that we're not suppose to describe people as criminals unless they have been so convicted). Moreover it's a pejorative and often politically charged term that can be applied extremely broadly. China, for instance, calls Tibetans who try to go to India without permission 'terrorists.' I think we need to be much more conservative when applying negatively charged labels like this, especially to living persons. Homunculus (duihua) 02:56, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
I think this is relatively simple, even in the most controversial of controversial cases. We have already categories "terrorism by country". Let's take any country, such as Category:Terrorism in Indonesia. It includes a number of pages about notable terrorism acts in the country. There are no doubts that each of them is actually a terrorism act. Exclude all disputable cases, like US bombing of Japan during war time. Find people who actually did each terrorism act (usually they are convicted or at large) and include them in the corresponding category "terrorist by country". This way one can avoid marking people who are actually not terrorists (your example). My very best wishes (talk) 03:19, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
That seems reasonable enough, though I would still rather not tread that minefield....Homunculus (duihua) 04:32, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
It seems that I simply like controversial subjects because they are not boring. But yes, editing any controversial subject if it cases anyone's objections is a waste of time and invitation for sanctions because there is no efficient dispute resolution process in this environment. My very best wishes (talk) 15:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
I see. Well, the battleground has lost its charms for me (not that it ever really had any). Lately I've enjoyed writing about deceased international legal scholars. I've developed a real fondness for this guy, who seems like a real rule-bound academic, with maybe a touch of pedantry. I feel I can relate to him a little, and best of all, no one comes along to engage in mass section blanking on pages like this ;) Homunculus (duihua) 07:04, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
You did excellent work with this article. He looks to me as a very interesting man. So, he said in 1935 that "Nobody except perhaps Russia would gain from our victory in such a war". True. And as we know, Stalin probably already planned to gain from this war during this time or may be a few years later. And he actually gained his new communist empire, including Eastern Europe, North Korea, and China, from the war see this old version. But that was mostly deleted by Russian political partisans here. My very best wishes (talk) 18:42, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
I really ought to devote more time to Soviet history. It was one of my first loves, you know, and helped disabuse me of utopian fantasies. But China ultimately proved far too interesting. Homunculus (duihua) 19:37, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

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That's a fair deal. I will take a look at this article as soon as I address all outstanding issues with my current reviews. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:19, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks! Homunculus (duihua) 16:45, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Good job. I started Ronald Macleay, red linked within in, you might find more on him. I noticed a lot of bare google book URLs. Just paste them into here and it'll draw them up for you, just click last name to reverse author names to surname first♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:52, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Looks like a good start. I'll take a closer look in a few days. I love MacMurray's comment about Macleay, though evidently he felt badly afterwards, as he struck through it in his final submission to the state department. Homunculus (duihua) 05:30, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


Judicial system of the PRC

I was just looking at the talk page history for Talk:Judicial system of the People's Republic of China, and saw your (very old) comment. This is likely the longest article I've found that cites no references. It's strange how these barren deserts emerge on Misplaced Pages, and on top-importance articles no less. In any case, I'm thinking of having a crack at reordering the page. If you have an ongoing interest in the topic, please partake! Regards, Homunculus (duihua) 06:15, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Indeed! It looks like a lot of that was due to the wholesale copying, which has since been deleted. Now the article is needing expansion again, hopefully this time with a better balance of outside assessments of judicial independence, domestic perspectives, and good old basic facts. -- Beland (talk) 00:07, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Yea....this has been on my list for a long time now. I guess I'll try to revisit it soon. I might start with proposing an outline on the talk page and fleshing it out from there. We'll see. Homunculus (duihua) 05:31, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Liao Yiwu speech

Hello, I saw the speech live on German TV (www.daserste.de) this Sunday. Unfortunately no full text of the speech seems to be available online anywhere now - neither in audio or video nor in text form. I think I will be able to provide a source once Monday's newspaper are out in Germany. -- 78.53.147.5 (talk) 03:19, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

I see. In that case, I am going to remove the material for now. Misplaced Pages is quite strict about sourcing in biographies of living persons, as you can read about here. You are welcome to restore the material when a source is available (you can consult the article's history to see what you wrote before—everything is archived here). You may also want to familiarize yourself with WP:NPOV. Happy editing! Homunculus (duihua) 03:28, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

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Seems like a worthwhile initiative. I've started adding project banners to a few pages that would fall under the purview of this project. Homunculus (duihua) 22:55, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Back mid-November? That seems to coincide with the expected concluding time of a certain political party's largest confab... not that there would be any connection. TheSoundAndTheFury (talk) 20:53, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
I'm not totally offline till mid-November. Just dealing with some demanding writing deadlines and such. Come to think of it, one of those deadlines is related to the congress... ;) Homunculus (duihua) 20:58, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

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We're starting to clarify things, so I have a followup question. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:26, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Xi Mingze

Dear Homunculus, Please, if you have time, take a look at the artice on Xi Mingze I just created. I just want thoughts on the article, whether positive or negetive, from a long time China hand. I am still trying to add content about the DPRK and China but it is an uphill struggle. Please edit, suggest, or critque. :) Geraldshields11 (talk) 17:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Gerald, good to hear from you. I'm a bit busy at the moment, but will take a look when the opportunity arises. Homunculus (duihua) 17:38, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Breaking news - Xi Jinping in now choosen asPresident of China.
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I Have some extra time, need some assistance?

Hello again Hom, this is Scott, the Gutter oil guy. Gre's have tired me out and I'm ready to get back to wiki for a bit. Any thing of importance that I can assist with or do the leg work on? Let me know 67.183.192.63 (talk) 09:14, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Hey Scott, glad you're back. I think I left you a note a while ago asking if you'd be interested in helping with an article I created on the Shifang protest in China. That one is in reasonably good shape now, but it could still be expanded. I also started work on the related Qidong protest, and it needs lots of work. Let me know if you're interested. I may think of other things down the line. Cheers, Homunculus (duihua) 01:34, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
By the way, how did you like the GREs? I hear they've changed the format since I took them. And have you decided which programs to apply to? Homunculus (duihua) 02:27, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

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That was a little odd...

Hi again. Mind if I ask what this was about: ? BTW, I like your user page! TheBlueCanoe 21:46, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

That was a mistake, hence the self-revert. In light of our earlier exchange, when I saw your name pop up on my watchlist today I decided to check in and see what you were working on. I think I must have accidentally hit "rollback" when perusing the article history, and didn't even notice until a while later. I've concluded that rollback rights don't get along with checking wikipedia on small touch screens—too much room for error. Anyway, that's not to say I agreed or disagreed with your edits. If you scroll up on this page, you will learn why I no longer contribute to that topic. You may find it enlightening. Homunculus (duihua) 01:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Wow. That's kind of outrageous. I mean the arbitration, not that you were following my contributions or anything ;) Can you do anything about it? TheBlueCanoe 13:50, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Not sure what you mean by "do anything about it." What I've done is write articles in other areas of interest, and regain a more normal work/life/Wikipedia balance. I hope you can appreciate why I will not discuss it further here. You're welcome to email me if you really want to. Good luck. Homunculus (duihua) 19:16, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

GA review for Shifang protest

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Might be the same editor. Regards, Xenophrenic (talk) 00:53, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Got it, thanks. Homunculus (duihua) 23:30, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

I've forgotten how to use Misplaced Pages over the years so give me a little time to reacquaint myself. Not sure if you heard about my problems I had on Wiki about 3 years ago but if so I'm better now and ready to start working again. Hint-A beer we had together (from the middle place that uses little sticks) :-)Hope to work together with you again, it was fun and so much more now to work on, I think Africa is still way undercovered1Johns1945 (talk) 20:13, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

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I see you've been busy. What projects are currently on the docket and need help? I need to return to things slow so helping a bit with others would suit me well. Let me know. Take care hom. I can't sign <dounai> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.49.93.246 (talk) 07:10, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey Scott, good to hear from you again! I haven't been very active on Misplaced Pages these days either; several months ago I moved to a new country for a job opportunity, got busy, and then inertia set in. I think the last time I reached out to you I was working on articles about NIMBY protests in China (eg. in Qidong and Shifang), and thought you might like to edit in that area. I'm also thinking to update/create some new pages on Chinese rights defenders like Cheng Hai, Li Chengpeng or Guo Feixiong, all of whom have been in the news lately. More broadly, I've found articles related to the Chinese environment to be underdeveloped, but it's a fascinating and important field. Do you have ideas for what you'd like to work on? If so, I'm happy to help. Maybe you can provide some motivation for me this time...Homunculus (duihua) 02:38, 22 August 2013 (UTC)


Sounds good....I need to get my mind focused on something and occupied for certain reasons...I'm not working right now so I have lots of time. Wiki would be great for that. Can you help with the chinese articles assuming your chinese is much better than mine? I could do english and find articles on google books or whatever that is...I have interest in the blind lawyer, bo xi lai cover up, and I got an offer from a chinese student to help with the following "信息管制 和 乞讨现象" but I don't know what those are...She or He seems really interested..and sounds like there in China. Their english level seems about intermediate. Let me know Hom...You seem very devoted...Just hope you arent in China when you're writing about all this :-) So don't tell me your location. Let me know, Take care. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.49.93.246 (talk) 13:38, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I also have interest in alot of other stuff but having been keeping up on my china news recently...So tell me what is hot right now and undercovered. I'm up for anything....China in Africa, South America anything....let me know meanwhile I've forgotten how to use wikipedia and all the functions and I lost my email account for this dounai account so I have to have a new one before I start or just use an IP. <dounai>. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.49.93.246 (talk) 13:45, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to be so frequent in questions...Would you be able or willing to translate some of the articles of the protest movements into Chinese so they can actually see whats going on? Many can't read english. I didn't know all of these protests for environmental things were happening and I'm very interested and I think its a start of broad stirring of the population and could be a sign of very monumental things coming. So I want to help on this issue because I love the chinese people (not gov or big business) and would like to offer a hand to repay the hospitality and warmth they gave me when I was there for over 4 years of my life. This might sound kind of mushy and idealistic but it's how I feel. I will contact the person that asked to colloborate with me and see what they want to do. Ok Hom, I'll leave you alone now...Take care. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.49.93.246 (talk) 22:21, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

my new handle is dounai99Dounai99 (talk) 14:53, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Where to start...I worked on the Chen Guangcheng article several months ago, and it was one of the more positive collaborative experiences I've had. It's now in rather good shape, but further improvements are always welcome. I also worked lots on the Bo Xilai page, which was a decidedly less positive collaborative experience. Which cover-up are you referring to? The whole spectacle of the trial, or something more specific?
My passive Chinese skills are respectable--I can read and listen well enough--but I don't think I could do an adequate translation from Enlgish. I believe several of those articles are already on the Chinese wiki, in any case. Your sentiments about the Chinese people (and government) are shared here, by the way.
China in Africa would be an excellent and fascinating topic to expand on, and one I'd love to help with when I return from vacation. The economist has carried some fairly balanced pieces on that relationship that you may like to look into. I may not be too responsive for the next week or so, as my internet connectivity is limited, but I look forward to working with you. Homunculus (duihua) 16:07, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm referring to the likelihood that he might be more innocent than commonly thought and that he just ruffled the wrong high level feathers. Plus his trial only lasted several days! Plus he was attaining a cult of personality like Mao and had his sights set on the central politburo, right, to work. What if he brought his corruption fighting with him, at that level many officials are corrupt but so far untouchable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.49.95.52 (talk) 04:05, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Right. You might be interested in this article by Ai Weiwei on the Bo trial and what it says about the Communist Party today.. There's no doubt that Bo's trial was not fair; the way that evidence was collected, and the fact that the people testifying against him were probably doing so under duress, wouldn't hold up in a Western court of law. But there is also little doubt that evidence brought publicly against him was incomplete, and that his real transgressions—which could threaten the whole system and indict far more people if aired publicly—were kept from view. Bo was implicated in some horrific human rights abuses, but since those abuses are ongoing elsewhere, and since even higher-level authorities were involved, you'd never hear about about them the carefully stage-managed trial lest party unity and legitimacy be undermined. As for Bo's 'striking black' anti-corruption campaign, it seems to me that he was using this mainly as a pretext to take down his political opponents; he certainly did not provide fair trials either for those he accused (and then executed) on corruption charges. I don't think there was any risk that Bo would have be an advocate for openness and transparency had he risen to the Politburo Standing Committee, but there is a risk he would have destabilized the leadership transition and the power structure in other ways (ie. by consolidating too much power and influence for himself). Anyway, I'm getting caught up now, and will respond to your other notes later on today. Homunculus (duihua) 10:51, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello again...I was looking at "barefoot lawyer" and noticed it didn't have a chinese version! How can this be? Only arabic. So I left messages for 8 native chinese translators who know very good english. Hopefully a few of them will respond then they can work together. That is a very important article for a chinese person who is having their rights trampled and wants to learn about what recourse they have. So we're both not able to translate :-(. No problem. Is Chen the blind lawyer? Seems like he has a gag order as part of his deal to come here or he's afraid for his family still in china. Hom, anything you want to work on I'll help out (not the ancient text or anything) because I need to be occupied. I will gather the info and try to write it and I think I'm an easy guy to work with because I'm a beginner and have a fairly small ego. So maybe china in africa, they are super super busy there buying influence. Take care and have a good vacation, put on the sun tan lotion! Dounai99 (talk) 17:51, 24 August 2013 (UTC) 8 I did wechat global censorship section while you were gone after seeing story on it. You have interest in cadmium rice in Guangdong or electronic recycling world capital also located in guang? I got bad virus from bad Misplaced Pages link on suichang county page that had cadmium blurb. Cost 200 to fix it and had to wipe disk! So be careful on these controv topics. Talk later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dounai99 (talk • contribs) 11:49, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

The cadmium rice story is a good one to pursue, and relates back to the topic of food safety. I'm not sure it's related to the electronic recycling in Guangdong province (although that's also a topic that probably merits more coverage here, and not just in the Chinese context), since I think the rice mostly came from Hunan. The article Food safety in China might be one you'd like to help develop more. There's also a page Food safety incidents in China, though it's kind of a mess and could benefit from an overhaul. But yes, watch out for bad links. I'm really sorry to hear you encountered that problem.
As for lawyers, yes, Chen is the blind lawyer. I encountered another editor a little while ago who had an apparent interest in Chinese human rights lawyers, and maybe you could suggest to him that he work on a translation of barefoot lawyers (see User:Hanteng). If you decide to work on the China/Africa article, let me know—I'd be happy to pitch in where I can.Homunculus (duihua) 00:01, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


Hello Hom, just noticed you got back...Sorry for switching back and forth so much on my topics there's just so much to cover and my condition causes me to not able to concentrate on one thing; you can guess as to what it is. The electronic waste one is already covered but cadmium rice isn't so I think I'll take that on in addition to the Africa one. I really like the Africa one and think teamwork would be good for it. 

I didn't know you wrote the barefoot article before I looked for a translator.  It was by chance and then

afterword I saw on your page that you wrote it! For Africa, I was thinking of having the general summary and then going country by country with its own section. Does that sound good? You were right on the Economist having a truckload of articles about it. What are your ideas for the Africa article? Country by country or something else. I will try to calm down from now on because I can get a little manic if you know what I mean. I will start with Zambia because I met a nice woman from there a while back :-) Take care.71.49.95.52 (talk) 12:19, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

On Zambia..There are already two pages that go into very light detail: http://en.wikipedia.org/Chinese_people_in_Zambia http://en.wikipedia.org/People%27s_Republic_of_China%E2%80%93Zambia_relations.

Should we just merge all of them or work on the current pages; you know a lot better than me based on all of your experience?71.49.95.52 (talk) 00:28, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I wrote the barefoot lawyers page, and have also had a hand in most other articles on Chinese human rights lawyers (Weiquan movement, and most of the individuals listed under Category:Weiquan movement). It's a niche I got into a while ago, and just found that when I didn't know what else to work on, it was a good topic I could default to and chip away at.
For Africa, you can start by working on improving the existing articles dealing with bilateral relationships, though I hope you'll also find time to work on the Africa-China relations page. There is good material there, but it doesn't really capture the contemporary dynamics too well. Homunculus (duihua) 22:55, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for the reminder. I fell out of the habit of editing and got busy with other writing projects. One of these days I'll rediscover my motivation. Hope you're well. Homunculus (duihua) 18:20, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

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== Hello again I'm back...This is the guy that created the article about the American beer that went overseas to find new life and the city in the south of a country that I really liked and which I lived in. Sorry to be so private I'm just trying to be careful not to run afoul of any government. Sorry for being so sketchy before but was going through some rough times. I'm a lot better now and hope to get back in the groove of things and relearn how to edit the Wiki pages. My language skills have also improved quite a bit but still not good enough to translate anything. I really enjoyed collaborating with you before and really appreciated your help and mentor-ship. Hope we can continue where we left off. Notgoingtotellyou (talk) 21:28, 23 December 2015 (UTC)== == Just noticed you haven't been active for 2 years. You must have moved to the country of censorship? Or just got sick of the drama on the site? You were the only friendly person I met one the site so it won't be the same without you. Come back!! :-)Notgoingtotellyou (talk) 21:41, 23 December 2015 (UTC)==

Thanks for the note Scott. I moved to a new country, yes, but it's not censorship that's kept me from editing. Just fell out of the habit when I got busy. I've been meaning to come back and resume editing for some time—maybe a good new year's resolution? Homunculus (duihua) 21:47, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi hom how you been it's been at least 2 years!! Hope your in a safe country because they've got a large target on my head for some reason and they're scooping up anyone related to me, not literally though. Would you like to collaborate on an article or two in the coming week/s. I was thinking about the Chinese in Nigeria one or nig China relations. I have enough material to expand them more than 20 fold😉. Let me know and take care. Notgoingtotellyou (talk) 21:59, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks for resurrecting the article on Minxin Pei, who is indeed certainly notable. Pechmerle (talk) 08:28, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

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How have you been professor? This is dounai from many years ago we worked on pbr and gutter oil forgot what else. Would you like to begin work again, I’m unemployed still but in school so have plenty of time to work. Let me know what you’re interested in and if your still in the land of dragons. Take care 104.192.162.217 (talk) 20:23, 18 November 2023 (UTC)