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==Deliberately misleading== |
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Boris Malagurski persists in removing the (sourced) fact that he was one of 14 winners of the Rosarito Silver Palm Award, Mexico, in the category "Student Films". "Winner, Silver Palm Award, 2009" is directly misleading, it deliberately portrays him as ''the'' winner when he was in fact only one of 76 winners of that (not particularly notable) award and only in the category student films along with more than a dozen other film students. All his other awards are less notable than this one. ] (]) 16:22, 27 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:The intent is not to mislead, but to keep up with the format on the previous awards listed. Also, stop calling me that name, if you're accusing me of being that person, do a checkuser. I'm tired of this... --] 17:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC) |
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The continued attempts to remove the fact that he won in the category "Student Films" is nothing but simple vandalism, and really a good example of how this article deliberately and misleadingly presents a non-notable person as extremely important. If anyone ever doubted why this vanity should be deleted, you have given them plenty of reasons with your revert-warring to make readers believe this award is so much more important than it really is. ] (]) 10:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:I believe you're mistaken. Nobody is trying to present this person as extremely important. This is an article about a filmmaker who has made a few films, has had interviews in several media outlets, was written about in newspapers, reported about on television and the article itself is well referenced, with reliable secondary sources that support all claims in the article, and ]. That is how it should stay. --] 03:42, 2 November 2009 (UTC) |
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<s>I don't understand why you are trying to delete this part: ''Boris is also a Serbian ], dedicated to justify ] committed by the Serb forces during ].'' ] (]) 20:58, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</s> Sockpuppet of {{User|Historičar}} |
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:That is a personal view, not a fact. |
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:Take ], for example, who has been accused of being a propagandist by many, you can't find that word anywhere in the introduction. That's because statements of accusation have to be supported by reliable references, second-hand sources. The same goes for the comment regarding war crimes. You can't just watch his film and, if you don't like it, write how he's this and that on Misplaced Pages - this is ]. --] 21:29, 1 February 2010 (UTC) |
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<s>::You are wrong. There are hundreds of examples in Misplaced Pages with similar statements about some persons. And deletion of those sentences is considered vandalism. Anyway I included relevant tag - citation needed, and if there's no relevant source to support the claim in a near future (few months) then be my guest and delete the sentence. ] (]) 20:28, 2 February 2010 (UTC)</s> Sockpuppet of {{User|Historičar}} |
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:::That's not how it works, my friend. Find a source first. --] 23:36, 2 February 2010 (UTC) |
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==File:Boris Malagurski photo.jpg Nominated for Deletion== |
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| An image used in this article, ], has been nominated for deletion at ] for the following reason: ''Deletion requests May 2011'' |
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''This notification is provided by a Bot, currently under trial'' --] (]) 19:01, 26 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== Vreme je == |
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UrbanVillager, you removed two times some films from the filmography section. |
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# The you used the following argument "Those were student films)" and when I explaining that student films should be included in the filmography because he received awards for them (i.e. for ''Vreme je'') and that removal of student films is not good explanation because ''The Canada project'' is also a "student film" you reverted my edit. |
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# The you did not use "student film argument" but another two arguments: 1) These films are not on IMDb. and 2) Canada Project was on National Television. |
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Regardless of the presence of those films on IMDb or National Television, BM received awards for Vreme je, or Canada project and those films should not be deleted because awards those films received give them notability and therefore they should be included in the list. Even the other films of BM which are not on IMDb should be included in the list because he was their author. does not say that filmography should exclude films which are not listed on IMDb or not published on National Television. |
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If I am wrong, please provide arguments within reasonable period of time. Otherwise I will return deleted films in the list within filmography section.--] (]) 19:27, 14 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:It's a question of notability. Sure, he made them, but do we list his home movies too? "Ozbiljna gimnazija", from what I was able to find, was only shown in his highschool. I guess "Vreme je" is OK, so that can be added, but I don't see that "Kits" or "Communist Spy" won any awards. One other film which ''could'' be added is "Slamarke" (2007), which was shown on Serbian TV, but the film is less than 3 minutes long, so I'm not sure how notable that is. If you ask me, I think only adding "Vreme je" is OK, and ''maybe'' Slamarke. The rest are just, from what I understood, student projects which weren't screened publicly outside of BM's school. --] (]) 16:24, 15 July 2011 (UTC) |
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::I agree with you.--] (]) 21:06, 15 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:Admin, Malagurski's "movie" is more like a video stuff one records and plays with. There is no nobilty. This man is a genocide denier and Serbian propagandists. He is far from being neutral. Yet he was banned from Misplaced Pages and he is back. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:39, 10 October 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Boris Malagurski article full of lies == |
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The criticism of Boris Malagurski's video clip (it's too badly done to be called a "movie" or "documentary") can be read in English now, http://baginst.com/The%20Weight%20of%20War%20Crimes%20ZIJAD.pdf . Boris Malagurski was banned from Misplaced Pages, yet he is back again and is editing his own article. Admins, why don't you ban user http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Cin%C3%A9ma_C <-- he is Boris Malagurski and he is using a different IP # to make himself "famous" on Misplaced Pages. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:39, 10 October 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> |
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:The article you listed here was written by some irrelevant blogger () and it does not constitute as facts or the opinion of "critics". Misplaced Pages only recognizes relevant sources, and they have been listed as references. Thanks, --] (]) 22:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC) |
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:: I looked for it and quickly found that the same blog post was reposted at ], which does not appear to be any more more unreliable than e.g. ], just with an opposite slant. As is, the article is pretty much a hagiography of Malagurski, which is a ] violation just as well - an article stating the contrary is a step in the right direction to restoring some balance. --] (]) 20:54, 12 October 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Joy, E-novine is nothing more than a sophisticated blog site. Press is a print newspaper that is widely read in Serbia. I agree that every article should have a balance, but there needs to be a more serious reference, not just a site that re-posts blog entries. --] (]) 08:02, 13 October 2011 (UTC) |
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