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== Raising age of consent in spain is wrong ==
== Map ==

Half of the countries on the map have the''' wrong color''', especially in Africa. Someone needs to go carefully through ], ], ], ] and ] and correct the map. Or better, create a new map, the colors on this map are problematic, as they are barely distinguishable (eg 13, 14 are nearly the same on the map). The map cannot stay any longer in such a state. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:31, 9 December 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Please provide a better map in such case. If you point out exactly which African country is wrong then I will fix the map. Map is essential for the article. ] (]) 14:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

::Hmm. Curiously, now there is not a map. Though so essential... ] (]) 19:19, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

::: See the section below ] for what countries are wrong on the map (and for other problems with the map); not only that many countries are shown with the wrong color, but the map doesn't even have a legend color for 'puberty', despite the fact that several countries have 'puberty' as an age of consent. And we need the map to show ] too. Yea, a map is important (though not "essential"...) for this article, but we will have one when someone makes a new one. Meanwhile the wrong map has to be kept out of the article. Wrong information doesn't belong in any article and ''wrong information must be removed immediately''. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 11:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::::I didn't know that "puberty" thing at all. Makes it bit harder, not much. If I only could make these myself. Too tired & lazy to learn. ] (]) 12:50, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

::::: I have posted a request for a new map at Graphic_Lab/Map_workshop: ]. Hopefully it will soon be resolved.

::::: We have a new map now! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:16, 29 July 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Separation/Sorting by AOC continent articles ==

Concerning not only North America list article, but all Age of consent continent region list articles in general:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#Puerto_Rico.3F_.2F_In_general:_Separation_by_sorting_territories_by_continent.28geograpically.29_impractical_and_mix-up.3B_more-sense_search-easier_separation_by_sorting_territories_just_by_alphabetical_frames.28A-C.2C_D-F.2C_etc..29_should_at_least_also_be_created] (]) 07:55, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

== Hopefully mispellings ==

{{resolved}}

MarriageMain article: Marriageable age
The age at which a person can be legally married can also differ from the age of consent. In jurisdictions where the marriageable age is lower than the age of consent, those laws override the age of consent laws, at least as they apply to the spouses boner. Further still, some jurisdictions prohibit any sex outside of marriage, which can take place at any age, as in the case of Yemen.

In the second sentence are the words "spouses boner". spouses should be spouse's. God knows what 'boner' was supposed to be.{{unsigned|68.33.190.203|03:01, 2 July 2011}}
:It was recent vandalism. I've reverted it. - ] (]) 03:15, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

== New map needed ==

I've replaced the old global map, where many countries had the wrong colors, and which also had problems with the shades of blues it used (barely distinguishable)-see discussion ], with the 2 new maps which have been recently created, for North America and Europe, but new maps for Africa, Asia, Oceania and South America are still needed. In fact, what is needed is a new global map. Hope someone will create one soon.

see: ], ], ], ], for each country's age.

:I have posted a request for a new map at Graphic_Lab/Map_workshop: ]. Hopefully it will soon be resolved. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:59, 19 July 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->



'''The following countries are wrong''':


Iceland: 15, not 14 ]

Lithuania: 16, not 14 ]

US:
*Montana:16, not 18 ]

Bolivia: puberty (the map doesn't even have a legend color for puberty!!) ]

Mexico: ]
*Nayarit: puberty, not 12
*Querétaro:puberty, not 12
*Sonora:puberty, not 12
*Tlaxcala: puberty, not 12
*Zacatecas: 13, not 12
*Michoacán: 12, not 18

Peru: 18, not 14 ]

Kazakhstan: 16, not 18 ]

Cambodia:15, not 16 ]

Senegal:16, not 13 ]

Nigeria:18, not 13 ]

Chad: 14, not 13 ]

Guinea-Bissau:16, not 13 ]

Lesotho:16, not 14 ]

Mongolia: 16, not 17 ]

Bulgaria: 14, not 15 ]

Philippines: 18, not 12 (though this is more complex).] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
<span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:35, 19 July 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> - ] (]) 23:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Wow!! I have discovered 3 more countries which are wrong:

Macedonia: 14, not 16 ]

Bosnia: 14, not 16 ]

Tajikistan: 16, not 17 ]

Can't believe this. Up until now, 24 wrong countries + the 'puberty' thing which is unacceptable. This map is a joke, can't understand how it was allowed for so long here. I hope we get a new one soon!!] (]) 23:44, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

::: We have a new map now!] (]) 22:17, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I added a passage saying that it seems that the average age of consent is 16, I know it varies but I think this is worth noting, I also noted that ages as low as 12 and high as 21 exist. --] (]) 02:07, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Portugal is also wrong, it's 14, not 15, wtf, it has never been 15 in history. It went from 16 to 14 in 1995, and the exception for homosexuals was removed in 2007. http://en.wikipedia.org/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Portugal <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:55, 17 September 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Portugal is shown to be 14 not 15! The map is correct! Please look at the map carefully. France is 15, compare the color of Portugal to that of France.] (]) 01:36, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

== other typical legal significance of age of consent ==

I thought age of consent was the age at which a person is deemed fit to give their consent: Whereas with someone of the age of majority their signature is sufficient for legal contracts, acknowledgement for risks before surgery, etc, the signature of a minor is insufficient, and a guardian's consent must be obtained. Unless this is only confounded in US law, it would be nice to include these other significances. --] (]) 11:52, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
:We don't discuss other legal ages as this article is specifically about age of consent. We point to the others in the lead paragraph: "''It should not be confused with the ], ], the ], the voting age, the drinking age, driving age, or other purposes.''" - ] (]) 14:17, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

== Page move ==
The term Age Of Consent is ambiguous since it can collide with other meanings such as driving, drinkng etc. Its also misleading because this article also covers sex between people of the same age where the phrase "consent" would not be incorrect. Therefore i propose renaming this article to "Legal age for sexual activity" or something similar. Thoughts? ] ] 20:56, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
:It's not ambiguous to me. "Age of consent" typically refers to laws about sexual activity, just like "]" typically refers to people who have not achieved legal adulthood, and the lead clears up any ambiguity a person may have upon stumbling onto this page. It deals with consensual sex between minors because they can also get in trouble (typically misdemeanors) for violating the age of consent laws. While they may be around the same age, they are not exactly the same age. ] (]) 00:32, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
::Age of consent is the normal term of art, I believe. --] (]) 06:33, 10 December 2011 (UTC)


The article states that age of consent was raised in spain on 2015, but it happened and the quoted articles are talking about a whole different law that didn't include those provisions. ] (]) 18:24, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
== re onset-of-puberty and places with no age of consent ==


== Vatican City age of consent ==
OK, let's not edit war over this. The contested material is:
:''In some countries, the age of consent is set at onset of ], and in some countries such laws do not exist.''


Hi, I don't know why both the map and the article say that the Vatican City State has no age of consent but a law that prohibits extra-marital sex. That's completely inconsistent with what is written in the Vatican section of the ] article.
This may be true, and I don't see why this is even contentious, but first of all we need good refs.


There appears to have been a direct source to the law which stipulates an age of consent of 18, but it looks dead and I'm not sure if I can find an original copy easily.
Regarding http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm, I'm not sure that that's reliable source, but more importantly ''the ref doesn't support the material''. There are a few countries marked with a ? meaning that the info is not available, is all.


Either way, there's no source whatsoever which says the contrary, i.e. that the State prohibits (and punishes through its legal system) all extra-marital sex while condoning it regardless of age inside of marriage. Also, consider that Vatican City civil and penal law heavily draws upon respective Italian law (when the State was born, in 1929, it adopted Italian law en bloc with minor adjustments to substitute things like references to "the King" with "the Pope"). Until 2000, all new Italian laws automatically transferred into Vatican law, unless explicitly opted out during a "grace period". ] (]) 15:23, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
The other ref is a book, ''Modern Muslim Societies''. Books are generally ''not'' good references because they're not usually fact-checked, which means we are thrown back on trusting the author. Sometimes that's acceptable, sometimes not, depending on the author and the material.


== Graphic overview full of errors ==
It's edited by by Florian Pohl. I don't know who the author of the actual piece is (and that's a problem, but presumably solvable easily enough). Florian Pohl is a professor at ], which is a junior college. I don't know much else about him, but that doesn't inspire nearly as much confidence as if he was a full professor at an Ivy League school or something. And the book is listed at under teen books, and described at as "children's literature". So this doesn't look to be a really scholarly work. It's a pretty dubious source for statements of fact, and since the material is contested I don't see this as being a good source.


In the graphic overview of age of consent, there are several errors. For instance in Denmark and Sweden the age of consent is 15, but the light blue colours in the graphic overview says 14. This should be corrected. ] (]) 21:11, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
I addtion, the particular page givem () doesn't support the material anyway. There's no mention there of puberty. The top of the page says "in some countries the law remains uncodified" but without knowing more (such as, which countries? for starters) that's not really enough to go on.


== Nepal ==
As to the first part, I wouldn't be completely surprised if "in some countries such laws do not exist" is true, we just need a better ref. It probably doesn't belong in the lede, though, since those countries are probably only a few exceptional ones. The puberty thing, hmmm, it would seem odd if a national legislature or ruler would actually codify this in law, but I suppose it's possible. But we would need a good ref or refs. ] (]) 04:53, 10 December 2011 (UTC)


Why the map shows that age of consent in Nepal is 16, while the wikipedia article ("Ages of consent in Asia") and all the sources say it's 18?
: I find it insulting that you describe an editor who was made repeated personal attacks as "reasonable". Why would i go to a talk page to speak to someone who called me a pedophile? He was not being reasonable, because articles ] is supposed to summarize the body, which is what my edit did. The diagram in the article mentions 'puberty' and 'no law', which is why i added it. Secondly, you are wrong about my source not supporting text. My source on page 44 says quote; "In some countries the law remains uncodified, and ubject to interpetation by scholars." On page 45 it says "A significant number of Muslim countries, particularly those in the Arabaian peninsula, do not have fixed minimum age of consent. Islamic law establishes no minimum age for marriage". Btw, there was no dispute about puberty, only about the "some countires have no such law" part. I would appreciate if you self-revert, because the statements i quoted above islamic law are not controversial or disputedin ].
The map is misleading. The age of consent in Nepal is 18. It should be colored green. ] (]) 13:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)


:Hi Cyanmax,
Im not sure what your criteria for reliable sources are, so why dont you help find sources yourself? This would be less time consuming and constructive ] ] 09:46, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
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:Please do not remove the image in its entirety, thank you! ] (]) 01:41, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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Raising age of consent in spain is wrong

The article states that age of consent was raised in spain on 2015, but it happened on 2013 and the quoted articles are talking about a whole different law that didn't include those provisions. 137.101.56.213 (talk) 18:24, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Vatican City age of consent

Hi, I don't know why both the map and the article say that the Vatican City State has no age of consent but a law that prohibits extra-marital sex. That's completely inconsistent with what is written in the Vatican section of the Ages of consent in Europe article.

There appears to have been a direct source to the law which stipulates an age of consent of 18, but it looks dead and I'm not sure if I can find an original copy easily.

Either way, there's no source whatsoever which says the contrary, i.e. that the State prohibits (and punishes through its legal system) all extra-marital sex while condoning it regardless of age inside of marriage. Also, consider that Vatican City civil and penal law heavily draws upon respective Italian law (when the State was born, in 1929, it adopted Italian law en bloc with minor adjustments to substitute things like references to "the King" with "the Pope"). Until 2000, all new Italian laws automatically transferred into Vatican law, unless explicitly opted out during a "grace period". Cabaret Voltaire 1916 (talk) 15:23, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Graphic overview full of errors

In the graphic overview of age of consent, there are several errors. For instance in Denmark and Sweden the age of consent is 15, but the light blue colours in the graphic overview says 14. This should be corrected. 217.71.1.184 (talk) 21:11, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Nepal

Why the map shows that age of consent in Nepal is 16, while the wikipedia article ("Ages of consent in Asia") and all the sources say it's 18? The map is misleading. The age of consent in Nepal is 18. It should be colored green. Cyanmax (talk) 13:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Cyanmax,
If you believe there is an error with the image, you can download it from the Commons here and correct it, then upload a new version. It will show on Misplaced Pages automatically. It would be helpful if you cited your reference as it seems to be lacking as well. There is also discussion on the talk page of the image itself you may find helpful.
Please do not remove the image in its entirety, thank you! 333fortheain (talk) 01:41, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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