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== Basketball biography infobox request == | |||
== Project tagging bot == | |||
On the ], all instances of {{para|HOF_player}} and {{para|HOF_coach}} should just be {{para|HOF}} as there is no actual difference between the two. The issue can be seen on ] where both parameters are used and link to the same page. ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 19:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
The people who have tagged articles in ] with {{tl|WikiProject Chicago}} have mostly gone inactive, except for one admin who no longer tags. Are there any bots that tag by category? If not we need a new one.--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 05:47, 21 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:] appears to not hold to that trend, so it would appear that it is not true to say "all" instances must be changed. I will also note that there are only of both parameters even appearing in the same article, so this is too small a task for a bot (try ] or just tweak things manually). ] (]) 20:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I just got approval for one. What are you trying to do? Do you just want to tag as WPChicago or was that just an Example? --] (]) 14:58, 21 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
::I meant that even single instances of {{para|HOF_player}} and {{para|HOF_coach}} should be moved to {{para|HOF}}, allowing the removal of the first two parameters within the infobox itself. ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 20:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::Yes we need all the new articles in the cats listed at ] (but not their subcats) tagged with {{tl|WikiProject Chicago}}. Auto rating unrated pages would be good. I.e., if a majority of other tags have a class=x, then fill that class in for Chicago.--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 18:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::If the other two parameters are reasonable alternate parameters, it would make more sense to have them as alternate parameters rather than edit every page using any single parameter. ] (]) 20:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::I have a request sitting with DodoBot - ] - if you'd like to steal that one away and do it, I'd be much obliged. All details there, but you could come back to me - if you feel like doing it - should you need to know more. thanks --] ] 16:04, 21 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::They are redundant as they both link to the same exact page as there is no official designation between being inducted as a player or coach into the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 20:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::Ok. I am currently going through some for WPUS and Oklahoma asked for a couple hundred too so after that I'll start working with these unless someone grabs them first. IN the Chicago one may I suggest also adding WikiProject Illinois if its not there already. --] (]) 18:59, 21 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::And yet, Bill Sharman uses both parameters with different values in them. The might have the same base URL, but clearly the ''values'' passed to them can be different. ] (]) 20:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::Thanks for UKRoads. --] ] 19:13, 21 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::Actually, it does seem like there are separate pages to represent an inductee's playing and coaching accomplishments despite there being no official difference between the two, as per ]. In that case, I suppose there must be more of a consensus to merge/remove the parameters before this can be implemented. ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 21:04, 18 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::Just so you know, my bot, ], is approved for such tasks. <b><span style="border:2px solid;font-variant:small-caps">]]</span></b> 23:47, 21 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Marking for the table above that this {{BOTREQ|advertise}} ] (]) 14:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::If you'd like to steal UK Roads, I'm sure no-one would object. I'd just be fascinated to see it done ;) --] ] 23:50, 21 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Please do Hazard. Got another 65000 in the que before I can do it. --] (]) 00:07, 22 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::::I started, but not sure if I will do them all at once. I'll finish at a later time if so. <b><span style="border:2px solid;font-variant:small-caps">]]</span></b> 00:41, 22 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
{{od}}So is Chicago in somebody's queue now?--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 21:30, 23 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:{{user|Hazard-SJ}}, can you handle this for me?--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 05:17, 27 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Are you watching here? I will ping your page.--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 04:08, 1 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::I should be able to help with it in the next few days. Got a couple others in the hopper at the moment. --] (]) 04:29, 1 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::I'm sorry about the delay. I've started the UKROADS more than once and left it to run, but it seems an error prevented it from continuing. I believe I should make a page for these kinds of requests so it is easier to follow? I will continue working on UKROADS. If Chicago isn't done when I'm done, I'll attempt it too. <b><span style="border:2px solid;font-variant:small-caps">]]</span></b> 06:12, 1 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::Any estimate on when you will be done with UKROADS?--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 18:06, 4 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::Hello.--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 18:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{od}} Sorry for the late reply. I did some more, but I was having some problems, hence ]. I'll get back to it ASAP, hopefully. As for Chicago, that would be a longer hold. <b><span style="border:2px solid;font-variant:small-caps">]]</span></b> 03:54, 10 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I can probably do some on Chicago but I'm not sure my bot is authorized yet to do that type of task. I can do WikiProject Banner replacement but I think I need to request a separate one for tagging new articles to a project. Its a pretty straightforward request with plenty of precadent though so it should be pretty quick. --] (]) 04:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Replacing FastilyBot == | |||
===Chicago tagging task=== | |||
I submitted a BRFA to allow my bot to do this type of task but before I get started I got a couple questions about this one. | |||
#Can I remove the red linked categories from the above page so it doesn't conflict? | |||
#*Yes.--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 17:39, 11 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
#Does the project support all types of content classes (i.e. Category, template redirect, etc.)? If not which ones does it support. | |||
#*Not really sure.--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 17:39, 11 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
#Are you just looking for me to add the Chicago banner or do you want me to do assessment as well? If you do want me to do some assessment what projects do you want me to inherit the class from? --] (]) 17:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
#*In the past I believe we inherited by majority. Can you do that? Just make sure not to automatically do subcategories.--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 17:39, 11 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks for the quick reply. I have to admit I don't know how to inherit by majority. I'm afraid that programming is above my level. What do you mean by not to automatically do subcategories? --] (]) 17:45, 11 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::The list at ] includes the categories that are associated with ]. Some of the subcategories of those categories include things that are far afield from the project. I will wait for {{user|Hazard-SJ}}.--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 00:12, 13 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::No problem. --] (]) 04:04, 13 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::''Me sees''. <b><span style="border:2px solid;font-variant:small-caps">]]</span></b> 07:37, 14 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::What is the latest?--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 16:21, 20 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Any update?--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 04:52, 26 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
Now that {{np|Fastily}} has retired, {{np|FastilyBot}} is no longer running. Any chance of a replacement? On the bot's deleted userpage, one can see that it ran 17 tasks and updated 31 database reports. ]] 14:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Deprecated {{tl|pron-en}} == | |||
:I have written code to update ten database reports. – ] <small>(])</small> 14:48, 19 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::I have restored the userpage to ] for tracking purposes. If anyone needs any of the code from any of the subpages, please let me know. ] (]) 14:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::I am taking over the following database reports: 4, 11, 12, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 26, 28, 29, 30, and 31. – ] <small>(])</small> 17:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::], given the availability of the sql queries https://github.com/fastily/fastilybot-toolforge/tree/master/scripts, it might be better to convert the pages to usse {{T|Database report}}.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732040084467:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> — ]] 18:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</span> | |||
::::I second this suggestion for database reports. I converted ] (number 18 on the list) to use {{tl|database report}}, and after fixing a couple of bonehead oversights on my part, it is working well and more functional than the previous report. – ] (]) 22:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::I have spent time writing code to update these database reports. There are some config files for certain database reports, so I have included functionality to exclude files from the report that transclude any templates or belong to any category listed in the config file. Database reports cannot do that, but I have no problem if you all want to use SDZeroBot's database reports. – ] <small>(])</small> 03:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::], I agree that if it's not possible or feasible to use {{T|Database report}}, it makes sense for you to handle it; but where we can, it's nice to have some kind of standardisation for the reports.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732124051655:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> — ]] 17:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</span> | |||
:I'll look into taking over the deletion discussion notifier. ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 16:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::{{BOTREQ|brfa|DatBot 12}} ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 23:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
* except for database reports, let me know if I can help with any other task. —usernamekiran ] 17:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:Since I'm heavily invested in the file namespace, tasks 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15, and 17 are relevant for my work. ]] 00:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::I would strongly second that tasks, 1-2, 4-12, and 14-17 are more or less essential for keeping this area running smoothly. — ] <sub>]</sub> 03:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:::alright. So what tasks are remaining now? —usernamekiran ] 12:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::::Tasks 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15 and 17 are still pending. If my assistance is needed with any task, I would be happy to help with some of them. – ] <small>(])</small> 13:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:::::{{re|DreamRimmer}} I think {{u|Explicit}} is going to take over tasks 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15, and 17. What I mean is, first we should make it clear who is going to tackle which task, before spending time working on it. —usernamekiran ] 14:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::::::Nope, I'm clueless in this area. Those are the tasks are the ones I would like to have kept going. ]] 14:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:::::::Is the code for these tasks available somewhere? It might be fairly simple to get it up and running again.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732124341240:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> — ]] 17:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</span> | |||
*::::::::Looks like it's availabe at https://github.com/fastily/fastilybot/blob/main/fastilybot/bots.py.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732124464896:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> — ]] 17:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</span> | |||
*:::::::::There are also some config pages on-wiki, I think I managed to undelete them all but if one is missing let me know. ] (]) 14:08, 23 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:::::::Since no one is taking these, I am going to take over two tasks, Task 4 and 10. I will code these from scratch and file a BRFA in a few hours. – ] <small>(])</small> 07:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::::::::{{BOTREQ|brfa|DreamRimmer bot 2}} and {{BOTREQ|brfa|DreamRimmer bot 3}}. – ] <small>(])</small> 10:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
===Current progress=== | |||
Just creating a table below for a quick idea of which tasks (based on ]) are being handled. Please add {{5~}} at the bottom if you update things. ] (]) 12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| ] || Replace {{tlx|Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}, for local files which are already on Commons, with {{tlx|Now Commons}}. | |||
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| ] || Remove {{tlx|Copy to Wikimedia Commons}} from ineligible files. | |||
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| ] || ] on malformed ] pages. | |||
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| ] || Add {{tlx|Wrong-license}} to files with conflicting (free & non-free) licensing information. | |||
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| ] || Replace {{tlx|Now Commons}}, for local files which are nominated for deletion on Commons, with {{tlx|Nominated for deletion on Commons}}. | |||
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| ] || Replace {{tlx|Nominated for deletion on Commons}}, for local files which have been deleted on Commons, with {{tlx|Deleted on Commons}}. | |||
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| ] || Remove {{tlx|Nominated for deletion on Commons}} from files which are no longer nominated for deletion on Commons. | |||
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| ] || Fill in missing <code>date</code> parameter for ] usages of {{tlx|Now Commons}}. | |||
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| ] || Remove instances of {{Tlx|FFDC}} which reference files that are no longer being discussed at ]. | |||
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| ] || Remove {{Tlx|Now Commons}} from file description pages which also translcude {{Tlx|Keep local}} | |||
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| ] || Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are ]. | |||
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| ] || Remove {{tlx|Orphan image}} from ] files which are not orphaned. | |||
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| ] || Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are ]. | |||
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| ] || Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are ]. | |||
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| ] || Leave courtesy notifications for article authors (who were not notified) when their contributions are proposed for deletion. | |||
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:Hi. Since nobody's taking them, I'm gonna try working on tasks 5 and 15. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 02:15, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks for volunteering :) – ] <small>(])</small> 03:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Deprecated template {{tl|pron-en}} is no longer used in mainspace. However, there are still ca. 350 transclusions in portal space. Could you convert these to {{tl|IPA-en}}, which is still supported? The conversion is simple: if there is only one parameter, add 'pronounced' to the beginning and a pipe at the end: | |||
:updated task 17 with KiranBOT 14. —usernamekiran ] 23:37, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I've claimed the malformed SPI task. My bot will be an ] for this task and not require BRFA because it will just report malformed SPIs to ], which will then be displayed on the malformed SPIs page in projectspace through a template and Lua module, similar to my AfC bot (botreq by JJPMaster below). ] <sup>]]</sup> 06:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Completed & running continously (it watches RecentChanges) on Toolforge :) See ]. ] <sup>]]</sup> 08:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
: working on FastilyBot 5 "add {{tlx|Wrong-license}} to files", will file BRFA when code is ready. —usernamekiran ] 03:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Deletion of navboxes at ] == | |||
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:<nowiki>{{pron-en|ABC|En-ABC.ogg}} → pronounced {{IPA-en|ABC||En-ABC.ogg}}</nowiki> | |||
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If you could drop me a line if/when this is done, I'll clean up any remainders and mark the template as deprecated. | |||
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Thanks! — ] (]) 22:16, 20 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:Looks fairly easy and non-controversial. I'll probably do this in a semi-automated fashion very shortly. — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 00:27, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::Thanks. Yeah, these were all converted in main space months ago. I've cleaned up everything else apart from user space, talk, and archives. — ] (]) 02:21, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:::{{On hold}} – My apologies for taking so long to find this out, but I actually don't have access to my bot account at the moment until my toolserver account is restored, and I'm not comfortable making semi-automated edits under my primary account. Can another bot operator pick this up? (If not, I should get the account restored within a couple days.) — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 03:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::::It seems pretty straightforward I can probably do it with mine if its ok with everyone. --] (]) 03:04, 23 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:::::Ok I did a few edits and got a couple comments so I have a followup question. | |||
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:::::Should I be changing these templates on Archived talk pages or should I skip those? --] (]) 14:48, 23 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::::::I won't speak for the original requester, but generally changing archived talk pages is frowned upon unless it contributes to the archive's quality (e.g. changing WP:AN/I links to the relevant archive, &c.) I can't say without looking at context, but it appears the original request was only for the portal namespace and it'd probably be best to restrict it to that without more community input in a BRFA or the like. — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 15:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:::::::Makes sense to me. I'll start with that and go from there. Just FYI for all there are a lot of transclusions on User and User talk pages as well. --] (]) 16:44, 23 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Incidentally, I now have access to my bot account, so if Kwamikagami needs anything more than that or if you need any help, I'm now available. — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 13:04, 24 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:That would be great. I stopped his bot because it wasn't overriding the default behavior of the new template per the above. (I didn't revert the edits he did make, however. There were 43 of them.) — ] (]) 03:54, 26 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:Also, I received a request some time ago to convert our IPA key for Serbocroatian to use the letters e and o instead of ɛ and ɔ, which would match our phonology article (they are also more accessible to readers). The transclusions are inconsistent; maybe half follow the key, half the phonology article. We'd need to convert all instances of ɛ and ɔ in transclusions of the {{tl|IPA-sh}} template to e and o, and also to get rid of the up & down tacks under any of those four letters (or any other letters). (The tacks are these: in case it's easier for you to clip & paste.) | |||
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:AWB at least has a hard time with diacritics, so you may need to convert e and o plus circumflex or caron to hard-coded ê ô ě ǒ. | |||
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:Getting rid of the tie bars would also be nice, since they're distracting and not used in the key (they're found on t and d: t͡ d͡ ), and a lot of the articles use v (or v̞) for ʋ. — ] (]) 07:15, 26 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:There are some other inconsistencies, but they're not so numerous, so I can take care of them. — ] (]) 06:30, 26 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::I can fulfill the original request; it's non-controversial and an example of what's normally done when a template is deprecated. Can you link me to more consensus (the request, discussion, etc.) on changing the IPA within the template? Also, I'm not using AWB, so I don't anticipate problems with diacritics, though I will have to read up on normalization and such to run this if the changes have consensus. Thanks, — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 16:21, 26 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:::Here,] but there's very little comment. A remark that e and o are more accessible, and what are used in our phonology article. — ] (]) 07:00, 27 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::::Forgive me, I don't know much about IPA, but I don't think the proposed changes would only affect Serbo-Croatian articles and thus the scope of the discussion's a little narrow... if it's all right with you, I'd like to proceed by just processing the templates according to your initial request, just changing the name and how the parameters are passed. If you actually want content changes, I think that would be something we'd have to discuss in a BRFA or at the Village Pump, because I'm not completely sure they'd be non-controversial. I can give you a list of pron-en templates with whatever characters you'd like, though, so you or the appropriate WikiProjects could review them. — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 22:03, 27 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:::::Sorry, I should have opened a 2nd request. The Serbo-Croatian change has nothing to do with pron-en, and it does affect only Serbo-Croatian. — ] (]) 13:43, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== URGENT - Bot to remove {{tl|Copy to Wikimedia Commons}} from files uploaded by users currently at CCI == | |||
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There are a couple of users whose uploads with false own work claims have landed them at CCI. An unforseen side effect of Fbot's tagging of freely licensed files is that many of these copyvios are tagged for transfer. | |||
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What is needed is a bot that looks at all files linked to at a page in the Misplaced Pages:Contributor copyright investigations/ tree, such as ], removes the {{tl|Copy to Wikimedia Commons}} tag if there is one, and adds a template specifiably warning against transferring the file. | |||
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This is an urgent task, as I'm already seeing copyvios getting transferred over in the ongoing transfer drive. ] ] 17:01, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:I can do this if it isn't done already. Give me a few minutes and I'll make another comment here. — Carl <small>(] · ])</small> 17:06, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:There are 621 images that meet the criteria. I'll work on editing them with VeblenBot. — Carl <small>(] · ])</small> 17:12, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::I have just created {{tl|File at CCI}} for this task. ] ] 17:21, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:::The bot will make edits like this . Is that what you are looking for? — Carl <small>(] · ])</small> 17:28, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::::Perfect! ] ] 17:29, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:::::OK, it will take a little bit to edit them all. You can watch VeblenBot's contribs. — Carl <small>(] · ])</small> 17:32, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::::::I was. I added the template to the first three, which were done before the template appeared. I've also updated the Fbot blacklists so that these files won't get retagged so long as the template is present. Once the initial run is done, I'd like to explore how best to create a system in which the template is added as soon as a CCI is formally opened, and removed when a CCI is closed. That's not as urgent, however, as CCI is a slow process. Thanks for this. ] ] 17:45, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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There were actually only 498 of them; I had double counted some. I had the bot scan them all to make sure they were tagged with the CCI tag. Glad to help, — Carl <small>(] · ])</small> 18:09, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Paid editing has been back in the news in the past month big time, and our process to prevent it is somewhat broken or at least not sufficiently smooth and well-known, and that encourages socking. How about a way for ] members (from {{tl|Request edit}}) more than a few days old to show up in the feedback request service or similar? ] (]) 19:01, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:How about having a noticeboard, which lists edit requests/editprotected/editsemiprotected in an ordered by date manner similar to ] ? -- Page, Date, Request type (ER/EP/ESP) . ] (]) 01:01, 22 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::Great idea! {{done}} . I still think adding stale member announcements to the Feedback Request Service has merit, but this will certainly help a great deal. ] (]) 20:24, 22 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== IMDb Template Use == | |||
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I've on occasion "corrected" ] that don't utilize the template (usually just a simple URL of the page), but it's a tedious process that can never correct all of them, which could number in the thousands. Could there be a bot that would automatically correct every IMDb link so it uses the proper template, both in external links and references? Exceptions to this would be the links to pages such as full cast, box office, technical specs, trivia, goofs, etc., which the template cannot be directly linked to. A related bot could perhaps correct all of the many instances where the template incorrectly repeats the article title, instead of using the title or name as it appears on the IMDb. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:55, 22 January 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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== Bot to detect cut-and-paste page moves == | |||
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Would it be possible to create a bot that would either notify a board or reverse the edits of a ]? I've come across two in the last week (] and ]), which makes me think they are often unnoticed. Presumably, if one page goes blank and the text appears at a previous redirect or new page, it should be pretty obvious.▫ ''']''' 06:08, 24 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:CorenSearchBot often does detect them, but I'm likely to file a BRFA soon for a similar task and/or start semi-automated work on the list collected by ]. — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 13:01, 24 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== Fix Computing banner assessment conflicts == | |||
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If you review the last few days of ] you'll see that a number of the "reassessed" entries repeat each day, even though the talk pages haven't been changed in months. | |||
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A number of templates such as {{cl|WikiProject Computer science}}, {{cl|WikiProject Microsoft Windows}}, {{cl|WikiProject Computer Security}}, and {{cl|WikiProject Software}} automatically include the parent WikiProject Computing. When these templates are used in combination, but do not specify the same importance level, or one provides an importance level but the other does not, the articles end up in multiple assessment categories. | |||
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I reported this at ] but was advised that I needed to fix the categories – that this wasn't a problem with the bot. Which makes sense – the articles are indeed in Unassessed-importance computing articles and High-importance computing articles. | |||
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These are examples of the fixes I'd like the bot to make: | |||
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{{WikiProject California|class= C |importance=Mid |sfba=yes|sfba-importance=high}} | |||
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A theoretical example, which would result from someone naively adding Computing/Databases to a previously categorized Windows article: | |||
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And finally a contrived theoretical example: | |||
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Requesting for bot help to nominate 156 navboxes for deletion (listed above). These navboxes are for teams that finished lower than third place in the Olympic basketball tournaments. Such templates are subject to ] and were previously deleted per ], ], ], and March 29, 2019 (], ] and ]) discussions (to name a few). – ] 17:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:{{small|Maybe one day I'll complete ] and things like this will be much easier.}}<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732123946046:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt">— ]] 17:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</span> | |||
::It is very easy to list these templates at TFD as a batch. Someone with AWB should be able to help you apply the correct TFD template to all of them. Notification of the templates' creators might also be not-too-hard with AWB, especially if you provide a list of those editors. – ] (]) 22:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Ill tag them, if I could get the editors users ill notify as well. {{working}} with AWB. ] (]) 23:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::{{u|Geardona}}, have you completed this task? Thanks! (I'm trying to sort out all the discussions and either make the bot to do them, or close them). ] <sup>]]</sup> 04:45, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Bulk remove "link will display the full calendar" from articles about calendar years == | |||
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There are presumably hundreds of articles about calendar years (for example, ]) that contain the text "link will display the full calendar". | |||
{{WikiProject Computing|class=A|importance=mid|science=yes|science-importance=mid}} | |||
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I believe this text violates the spirit of ], specifically: | |||
These spurious entries make the assessment report much less useful. In 2010 the list was so long that a single day's report spanned 2–3 pages, and I cleared hundreds of them. I used to keep up with the subsequent errors contributors introduce when they add tags without synchronizing the parent project assessments, but it was tedious work and it's a task better suited to automation. | |||
: phrases like "click here" should be avoided In determining what language is most suitable, it may be helpful to imagine writing the article for a print encyclopedia | |||
Banner consolidation is a simpler solution, but requires consensus about how to handle the multiple projects. In some cases I think there would be consensus to consolidate (e.g. Software, Computer Security) but in others there would be consensus to keep separate (e.g. Computer Science). So it ''is'' necessary to fix the articles which are tagged with multiple projects – on its own banner consolidation will not solve the problem. | |||
The text "link will display the full calendar" would of course make no sense in a print encyclopedia, so I think it should be deleted. Given the number of articles that this text appears in, this deletion would best be done by a bot. ] (]) 07:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:A total of pages use this wording. – ] <small>(])</small> 07:22, 30 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::], ], this has been discussed before at ].<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732964905546:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> — ]] 11:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</span> | |||
:::It has also been raised a number of times at ] including following the linked BOTREQ (], ], ]), all of which were asking to remove it (without reply). Suffice to say, I think per ] there is a general lack of concern about whether this text is removed. Unless there is any significant opposition raised here in the next few days, I would be okay putting in a BRFA to remove the offending text. ] (]) 22:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::If it hasn't been done already, I'd also suggest doing a few dozen "by hand" first, to see if that provokes any objection. I don't expect it will. ] (]) 04:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::Easy enough to mass-rollback, I just forgot I was planning on doing this. ] (]) 16:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Province over-capitalization == | |||
:An easier way to deal with this is to remove Cat:WP Computing from templates which aren't directly about WP Computing... --] (]) 20:01, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
See ] and ] (just started). There are over 50,000 articles with over-capitalized ''Province'' since ] that moved all the Iranian province titles to lowercase. Assuming the project discussion doesn't turn up resistance to fixing, many of these would be easily amenable to bot fixing, like the task that ] did for NFL ''Draft'' over-capitalization. ] (]) 18:50, 6 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Remove all use of < categorytree > == | |||
Actually, there's not much activity at WikiProject Iran, so if anyone wants to see this discussed more, point me at a better place to bring it up. ] (]) 04:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
The code < categorytree > is used in categories to display all of the subcats. There has been a change to the MediaWiki software at some point and now all of the subcats are displayed on all the category pages if the limit of 200 is exceeded. this makes < categorytree > redundant. See an example at ]. I don't know how often it is used but it I have seen it quite regularly. I would like to have all instances of its use removed. It is often creates quite a clutter on a category page. -- ] (]) - 21:19, 26 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I think you're absolutely right, but think this may have to be brought up at the Village Pump/Technical or something just so we're sure there's consensus for this broad a change. — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 05:44, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::I can think of instances where <categorytree> is used on pages other than category pages. It would seem pertinent since the only problematic use is on category pages, it should only be removed on those pages. Otherwise, seems like a good idea to me. --] (]) 18:51, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
I did a bunch of these by hand on Dec. 6 (). No reaction from anyone. ] (]) 04:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Extlinks request == | |||
{{ping|Bsoyka|DreamRimmer}} Thank you both for volunteering to help if/when we see clear consensus or a closed discussion on this. Does anyone have a good idea how to provoke more response? All I've got so far is silence. The big RM was similarly quiet, with no opposition and just 2 supports. ] (]) 21:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
This is not a bot request ''per se'', so feel free to move it to a more appropriate page. ] is about to release a ] of new data and we have ] about it. One way to tackle it is to look at all the articles linking to www12.statcan.ca/english/census06/*. | |||
:This is why bots go through trials; not only does it allow for the bot operator to demonstrate that their bot operates as intended, it gives users the opportunity to give feedback on the task. If this is a potentially contentious task, we can have the bots not mark the edits as minor during the trial to raise more awareness of it prior to acceptance. ] (]) 22:00, 11 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Yes, a trial not marked minor is a good idea beyond the bunch I did by hand not marked minor. Are you prepared to approve such a trial? Bsoyka has a bot that's got demonstrated competence at doing such things, while avoiding purely cosmetic edits. ] (]) 02:32, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
I've got no response at the discussion I opened at the project. Is it OK to move forward with bot approval process? ] (]) 19:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
So can ayone produce a list of article with extlinks to that address prefix? It would need to be sorted or secondary-keyed by province (get article categories and look for unique use of "Ontario", "Alberta", etc.), not sure whether a wiki-formatted or tab-delimited output would be best, probably both so I could awk the raw text. If someone could do a raw list so I can look at it, that would be great. More refinement requests would likely follow, as we are just looking to update the base population (&c) data for this release. Thanks for any help! ] (]) 02:33, 27 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Sure, I can do that this afternoon or evening. — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 22:04, 27 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::already done at ] ] 22:06, 27 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::Never mind then. :P Cheers! — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 22:13, 27 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{ping|Bsoyka|DreamRimmer}} would either of you be willing to file an RFBA on this now, or should I try to provoke discussion elsewhere? ] (]) 23:39, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== A bot notification request == | |||
:{{u|Dicklyon}}, you can file a ] yourself if you are seeking approval to use AWB for this. I recommend the easy-brfa.js script linked on the page. :) ] <sup>]]</sup> 03:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Given that over ] editors were involved overall, I think a bot is the best method to notify all the editors mentioned in ]. ] (]) 05:28, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::I am not seeking to use AWB for this, but for someone else to do so. ] (]) 07:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
:: I am involved in the RfC/U, so ideally someone else should propose the wording, but the following seems neutral enough to me:<br> "A request for comments ] on administrator ]. You are being notified because of your participation in Fæ's RfA or because you took part in other discussions requesting a review of Fæ's conduct or because you participated in a RfC/U concerning Fæ's alleged former account." ] (]) 14:35, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::: Eh, that second sentence is a bit unwieldy, don't you think? What about "A request for comments ] on administrator ]. You are being notified due to your prior participation in ANI, RfA, or RfC discussions regarding this user." — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 17:41, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::: Fine with me. ] (]) 18:07, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
Okay. I'll do this shortly. I have a list of 179 users who !voted in the RfA, endorsed a summary in the RfC, or commented in the ANI discussion. I'll probably use the text above, with a comment indicating the notification's been delivered by a neutral party, etc. Also considering the age of some of these discussions, I'm probably going to skip any talk pages that haven't been active for two weeks (probably inactive user, not going to contribute, not helpful). Cheers, — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 18:24, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
: Thank you! ] (]) 18:58, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:: {{done}} — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 20:20, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Tagging ] == | |||
== rem. unsupported parameters from info box == | |||
Hello, I would like to kindly request that all articles, categories, files, etc. within the ] be tagged with the newly created ]. This will help streamline efforts to improve the quality and coverage of Israeli cinema-related content on Misplaced Pages. | |||
At {{tl|Infobox language}}, we used to have a parameter that rather perversely needed to be set to "none" if another parameter was not to link to a WP article. Support for this "ll" parameter has now been removed, after I asked ] and no-one objected. I hard-linked the articles and set the "ll" parameters to "none" before removing template support, and they no longer have a function. | |||
Please exclude the following subcategories, as they may include films that are not necessarily Israeli and these categories include biographies (which are not part of WP Film): | |||
There are about 400 articles with <code>ll..=none</code>, where the ".." may be one or two digits. Could these be removed? Pls do not rm. line breaks, unless this would mean two in a row. | |||
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I saw the request above on Belgian films and used it as a template for my request. | |||
If there are any which are ''not'' set to 'none', they should be left for me to clean up manually. (Removing them would have no effect on the display, but they would mean I overlooked something.) — ] (]) 09:47, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
Thank you. ] (]) 05:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
: query with depth of 5 returns 1003 articles. I have checked a few random ones, and they seem fine. @], can you please go through some random articles and let me know if there are any that should be removed from the list? – ] <small>(])</small> 15:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== URL replacement == | |||
::{{Strikethrough|Hold on with the bot. I need to remove people pages from the category as they aren't supposed to be in the film task force category. I will list a few that should not be included or we can manually remove later--: | |||
Hi. Can a bot replace any URLs that start with http://archiv.berlinale.de to http://www.berlinale.de as the "archiv" part of the URL is now redundant. | |||
::Tel Aviv University | |||
I estimate approx 150-200 articles in scope. Thanks. ''']''' (]) 13:51, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::ICon festival | |||
:I can do that with AWB. I'll start right now. <font color="#00ACF4">''']''' ]</font> 15:18, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::Thanks! ''']''' (]) 15:50, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:::{{Done|Finished}} 200 edits, but I'll carry on. And this is how I spend my Saturday... <font color="#C4112F">''']''' ]</font> 16:08, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::I updated the bot request to not include biographies. If you run it now with the new parameters and exclude the following four pages then everything should be good to be tagged. @] | |||
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::- ] (]) 21:33, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::@]: updated query shows 356 pages. If we remove these four, there will be 352 pages left to edit. Can you please confirm, so that I can tag them? – ] <small>(])</small> 14:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Yes, this is a good list. Please tag them. Thank you. ] (]) 16:19, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Hi, I am finding that the depth isn't high enough to tag many films. Can you run another query on this category? ] | |||
::::And exclude this category: ] | |||
::::- ] (]) 18:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::{{done}} Tagged . – ] <small>(])</small> 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::Hi, thank you for tagging those 334 pages. | |||
::::::In my previous comment, I mentioned that the initial query doesn't have a depth which reaches important articles. The query you ran missed important films like ] and ]. | |||
::::::Can you run the query again but on this category: ] | |||
::::::And exclude this category: ] | |||
::::::Thank you. | |||
::::::- ] (]) 16:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::@]: Can you please tell me which depth is correct? – ] <small>(])</small> 16:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::: finds the missing films. ] (]) 16:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::There are many articles, such as ] and ], that do not belong to the Cinema of Israel. There are many such articles. If you can provide me with the correct query or a list, I can help. – ] <small>(])</small> 16:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::Hounds of War is made by an Israeli director so it should be included. Some films have Israeli producers. You are correct that the other pages shouldn't be included. I reduced the depth to "2" and it fixes it. . - ] (]) 17:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::@]: This list contains some articles that do not belong to Israeli cinema, and some users have complained about it. The good thing is that I have only tagged a few from the second query. Please create a correct list; otherwise, I will not be able to assist with this. I am going to revert the last few changes. – ] <small>(])</small> 10:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::Do you not want to include foreign films made by Israeli directors and producers? They don't need to be included. ] (]) 20:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Bot to simplify "ref name" content == | |||
== School bot == | |||
I have come across some very long ref names in ref tags, sometimes automatically generated by incorporating the title of the work that is being referenced, which is disfavored by ], which asks that reference names be kept "short and simple" to avoid clutter. A ref name is nothing more than a piece of code by which to identify a reference, and can be as short as "A1" or the like. However, according to this search generously provided by ], {{search link|1=insource:ref insource:/\< *ref *name *= *{76}/}}, there are over 1,600 Misplaced Pages articles containing ref names that are over 75 characters in length, which is ridiculous. I have started hand-fixing these, and that is arduous, and I suspect bot-fixable. I would therefore like a bot that checks each page for ref names over the length of some set number of characters, perhaps something is short as 30 or 40 characters, and where a ref name is excessively long, shorten it to a more reasonable length (that does not match any existing names on the page). | |||
I want a bot to complete school assignments on an online school called Laurel Springs. It has a simple sign in, And a lot of the assignments are multiple choice, And you can retake the tests once or twice. Email below <email address removed> <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:30, 28 January 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
In the course of this search, I have also come across quite a few ref names that contain complete urls, <nowiki>]</nowiki> terms as would appear in linked text, and various non-standard characters or text usually used for formatting. I would like any instance of brackets, use of "http://" or "https://" or characters outside of the English alphanumeric set of letters, numbers, and basic punctuation to be stripped out or replaced with characters in that set. ] ] 03:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{Declined}} – Even if this request weren't morally abhorrent, this page is for requesting ''Misplaced Pages'' bots. — <strong><tt>]</tt></strong> 17:34, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I'm not sure I'd support bot-shortnening without seeing a demo of it. This seems to be more in the wheelhouse of semi-automated fixes. I'm opened to be convinced though.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] · ] · ] · ]}</span> 03:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: A ref name is not article text. It is literally just a signal to allow multiple uses of a reference. We could replace every ref name in the encyclopedia with a random string of three or four letters/numbers, so long as each ref name was unique within its article, and it would not change their functionality at all. Granted, there are some projects (like those working on comic book movies) where they craft ref names for more informative purposes, but where this is done, the ref names are never excessively long or made with brackets, URLs, or exotic characters. The only thing an excessively long or convoluted ref name accomplishes is reduce usability and clutter up the Wikitext wherever it is used. ] ] 03:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::See also ] which is an awesome tool for quickly renaming all refs in a given article. -- ]] 04:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::: {{re|GreenC}} Does it rename ''all'' of them? I am just concerned about the ridiculous ones (see, e.g., ). ] ] 04:11, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::: (edit conflict) Kudos on the fixes you've done already. One point of ] is that reference names should have semantic value (not, for example "A1" or a random string of characters). It doesn't make the slightest difference to the reader, of course, but makes it easier for human editors to cite the correct source. Are you familiar with ]? I use it to replace reference names like ":0" and "auto1" with reasonably short but meaningful names, and it makes the replacement process a lot easier. It could simplify the task of replacing obscenely long reference names with much shorter ones, although it's still a by-hand tool, not a bot. It only changes the ones you tell it to. --] (]) 04:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::: I'll check it out, thanks. However, with thousands of articles having excessively long ref names, there is still likely an advantage for having a bot do some of this lifting. ] ] 04:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::: I might be able to do it manually with this tool, but it does not always actually shorten the name, sometimes it just formats it. This should work on the worst cases, though. ] ] 04:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::I think it should be possible to use the code from RefRenamer in combination with ] to run it semi-automatically.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1735913606012:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> — ]] 14:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)</span> | |||
: Seems like a good example of ] to me. While "Author year" style, for example, will probably work well for types of sources where an author usually only publishes one per year, it won't work all that well for others. And personally I wish people would make more use of naming conventions that are more likely to be globally unique rather than less, often enough I've seen multiple articles on related topics that all cite different articles from a website and, since each only uses one article, the website's name gets used as the ref name, which has led to accidental bad refs if content is copy-pasted between the articles. ]] 15:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::That's a good point about copying to other articles. "Authorlastname" is usually sufficient, if not then "Authorlastname YYYY-MM". Likewise the citation should have {{para|last}} as the first field so it's easy to visually find. I've found these two methods (with RefRenamer) are my current best practice. -- ]] 16:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::: Even so, I think we can all agree that it is bad to have ref names like: | |||
:::* "Legitimate politics : a source of codification between theory and practice: A fundamental study of the uniting unity between politics and jurisprudence" | |||
:::* "urlThe Alkaloids of Tabernanthe iboga. Part IV.1 The Structures of Ibogamine, Ibogaine, Tabernanthine and Voacangine - Journal of the American Chemical Society (ACS Publications)" | |||
:::* "Dr. Coburn Stands for Science:Opposes Congressional efforts to honor debunked author linked to failed global malaria control" | |||
::: That said, I have played around with the ref renamer tool pointed out be ] and ], and I do think that I can use it to handle this task without needing a bot. ] ] 18:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::As such, {{withdrawn}} by requester. ] (]) 14:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC) <small> I have amended the template used in this comment because it was causing errors. The BOTREQ template does not have a "withdrawn" option. ] <sup>]]</sup> 08:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC) </small> | |||
:::: I don't agree those are bad, at least not for the reason you think they are. The second should drop the odd "url" prefix and the third could use a space after the colon if they're going to be titled like that, but if editors of an article find it useful to use the full title of a work as its ref name then 🤷 why should we care? I've seen you ]. ]] 15:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC) |
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Basketball biography infobox request
On the basketball biography infobox, all instances of |HOF_player=
and |HOF_coach=
should just be |HOF=
as there is no actual difference between the two. The issue can be seen on Lenny Wilkens where both parameters are used and link to the same page. ~ Dissident93 19:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Bill Sharman appears to not hold to that trend, so it would appear that it is not true to say "all" instances must be changed. I will also note that there are only 79 instances of both parameters even appearing in the same article, so this is too small a task for a bot (try WP:AWBREQ or just tweak things manually). Primefac (talk) 20:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I meant that even single instances of
|HOF_player=
and|HOF_coach=
should be moved to|HOF=
, allowing the removal of the first two parameters within the infobox itself. ~ Dissident93 20:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)- If the other two parameters are reasonable alternate parameters, it would make more sense to have them as alternate parameters rather than edit every page using any single parameter. Primefac (talk) 20:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- They are redundant as they both link to the same exact page as there is no official designation between being inducted as a player or coach into the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. ~ Dissident93 20:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- And yet, Bill Sharman uses both parameters with different values in them. The might have the same base URL, but clearly the values passed to them can be different. Primefac (talk) 20:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, it does seem like there are separate pages to represent an inductee's playing and coaching accomplishments despite there being no official difference between the two, as per Bill Sharman. In that case, I suppose there must be more of a consensus to merge/remove the parameters before this can be implemented. ~ Dissident93 21:04, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Marking for the table above that this Needs wider discussion. NotAG on AWB (talk) 14:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Actually, it does seem like there are separate pages to represent an inductee's playing and coaching accomplishments despite there being no official difference between the two, as per Bill Sharman. In that case, I suppose there must be more of a consensus to merge/remove the parameters before this can be implemented. ~ Dissident93 21:04, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- And yet, Bill Sharman uses both parameters with different values in them. The might have the same base URL, but clearly the values passed to them can be different. Primefac (talk) 20:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- They are redundant as they both link to the same exact page as there is no official designation between being inducted as a player or coach into the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. ~ Dissident93 20:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- If the other two parameters are reasonable alternate parameters, it would make more sense to have them as alternate parameters rather than edit every page using any single parameter. Primefac (talk) 20:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I meant that even single instances of
Replacing FastilyBot
Now that Fastily has retired, FastilyBot is no longer running. Any chance of a replacement? On the bot's deleted userpage, one can see that it ran 17 tasks and updated 31 database reports. ✗plicit 14:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have written code to update ten database reports. – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:48, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have restored the userpage to Special:Permalink/1258404221 for tracking purposes. If anyone needs any of the code from any of the subpages, please let me know. Primefac (talk) 14:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I am taking over the following database reports: 4, 11, 12, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 26, 28, 29, 30, and 31. – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- DreamRimmer, given the availability of the sql queries https://github.com/fastily/fastilybot-toolforge/tree/master/scripts, it might be better to convert the pages to usse {{Database report}}. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I second this suggestion for database reports. I converted Misplaced Pages:Database reports/Transclusions of non-existent templates (number 18 on the list) to use {{database report}}, and after fixing a couple of bonehead oversights on my part, it is working well and more functional than the previous report. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have spent time writing code to update these database reports. There are some config files for certain database reports, so I have included functionality to exclude files from the report that transclude any templates or belong to any category listed in the config file. Database reports cannot do that, but I have no problem if you all want to use SDZeroBot's database reports. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- DreamRimmer, I agree that if it's not possible or feasible to use {{Database report}}, it makes sense for you to handle it; but where we can, it's nice to have some kind of standardisation for the reports. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have spent time writing code to update these database reports. There are some config files for certain database reports, so I have included functionality to exclude files from the report that transclude any templates or belong to any category listed in the config file. Database reports cannot do that, but I have no problem if you all want to use SDZeroBot's database reports. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I second this suggestion for database reports. I converted Misplaced Pages:Database reports/Transclusions of non-existent templates (number 18 on the list) to use {{database report}}, and after fixing a couple of bonehead oversights on my part, it is working well and more functional than the previous report. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- DreamRimmer, given the availability of the sql queries https://github.com/fastily/fastilybot-toolforge/tree/master/scripts, it might be better to convert the pages to usse {{Database report}}. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'll look into taking over the deletion discussion notifier. DatGuyContribs 16:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- except for database reports, let me know if I can help with any other task. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Since I'm heavily invested in the file namespace, tasks 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15, and 17 are relevant for my work. ✗plicit 00:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I would strongly second that tasks, 1-2, 4-12, and 14-17 are more or less essential for keeping this area running smoothly. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- alright. So what tasks are remaining now? —usernamekiran (talk) 12:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Tasks 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15 and 17 are still pending. If my assistance is needed with any task, I would be happy to help with some of them. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @DreamRimmer: I think Explicit is going to take over tasks 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15, and 17. What I mean is, first we should make it clear who is going to tackle which task, before spending time working on it. —usernamekiran (talk) 14:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nope, I'm clueless in this area. Those are the tasks are the ones I would like to have kept going. ✗plicit 14:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Is the code for these tasks available somewhere? It might be fairly simple to get it up and running again. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like it's availabe at https://github.com/fastily/fastilybot/blob/main/fastilybot/bots.py. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- There are also some config pages on-wiki, I think I managed to undelete them all but if one is missing let me know. Primefac (talk) 14:08, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like it's availabe at https://github.com/fastily/fastilybot/blob/main/fastilybot/bots.py. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Since no one is taking these, I am going to take over two tasks, Task 4 and 10. I will code these from scratch and file a BRFA in a few hours. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- BRFA filed and BRFA filed. – DreamRimmer (talk) 10:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Is the code for these tasks available somewhere? It might be fairly simple to get it up and running again. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nope, I'm clueless in this area. Those are the tasks are the ones I would like to have kept going. ✗plicit 14:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @DreamRimmer: I think Explicit is going to take over tasks 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15, and 17. What I mean is, first we should make it clear who is going to tackle which task, before spending time working on it. —usernamekiran (talk) 14:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Tasks 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15 and 17 are still pending. If my assistance is needed with any task, I would be happy to help with some of them. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- alright. So what tasks are remaining now? —usernamekiran (talk) 12:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I would strongly second that tasks, 1-2, 4-12, and 14-17 are more or less essential for keeping this area running smoothly. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Since I'm heavily invested in the file namespace, tasks 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15, and 17 are relevant for my work. ✗plicit 00:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Current progress
Just creating a table below for a quick idea of which tasks (based on Special:Permalink/1258404221) are being handled. Please add ~~~~~ at the bottom if you update things. Primefac (talk) 12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
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1 | Replace {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}} , for local files which are already on Commons, with {{Now Commons}} .
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CanonNiBot 1 |
2 | Remove {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}} from ineligible files.
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CanonNiBot 1 |
3 | Report on malformed SPI pages. | MolecularBot 4 |
5 | Add {{Wrong-license}} to files with conflicting (free & non-free) licensing information.
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KiranBOT 15 |
7 | Replace {{Now Commons}} , for local files which are nominated for deletion on Commons, with {{Nominated for deletion on Commons}} .
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CanonNiBot 1 |
8 | Replace {{Nominated for deletion on Commons}} , for local files which have been deleted on Commons, with {{Deleted on Commons}} .
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CanonNiBot 1 |
9 | Remove {{Nominated for deletion on Commons}} from files which are no longer nominated for deletion on Commons.
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CanonNiBot 1 |
11 | Fill in missing date parameter for select usages of {{Now Commons}} .
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13 | Post various database reports to Misplaced Pages:Database reports. | |
17 | Remove instances of {{FFDC}} which reference files that are no longer being discussed at FfD.
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KiranBOT 14 |
15 | Remove {{Now Commons}} from file description pages which also translcude {{Keep local}}
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CanonNiBot 1 |
14 | Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are proposed for deletion. | DatBot 12 |
4 | Remove {{Orphan image}} from free files which are not orphaned.
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DreamRimmer bot 3 |
6 | Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are nominated for dated deletion. | DatBot 12 |
10 | Add {{Orphan image}} to orphaned free files.
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DreamRimmer bot 2 |
12 | Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are nominated for discussion. | DatBot 12 |
16 | Leave courtesy notifications for article authors (who were not notified) when their contributions are proposed for deletion. | DatBot 12 |
12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. Since nobody's taking them, I'm gonna try working on tasks 5 and 15. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 02:15, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for volunteering :) – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- updated task 17 with KiranBOT 14. —usernamekiran (talk) 23:37, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've claimed the malformed SPI task. My bot will be an WP:EXEMPTBOT for this task and not require BRFA because it will just report malformed SPIs to User:MolecularBot/MalformedSPIs.json, which will then be displayed on the malformed SPIs page in projectspace through a template and Lua module, similar to my AfC bot (botreq by JJPMaster below). MolecularPilot 06:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Completed & running continously (it watches RecentChanges) on Toolforge :) See Misplaced Pages:Malformed SPI Cases. MolecularPilot 08:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- working on FastilyBot 5 "add
{{Wrong-license}}
to files", will file BRFA when code is ready. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Deletion of navboxes at Category:Basketball Olympic squad navigational boxes by competition
List of templates for deletion at Category:Basketball Olympic squad navigational boxes by competition- Template:Belgium Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Chile Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:China Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Czechoslovakia Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Egypt Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:France Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Germany Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Italy Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Japan Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Latvia Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Peru Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Switzerland Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Turkey Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Uruguay Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Estonia squad 1936 Olympic Games
- Template:Philippines Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Poland Men Basketball Squad 1936 Summer Olympics
- Template:Argentina Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Belgium Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Canada Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Chile Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:China Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Cuba Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Czechoslovakia Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Egypt Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Great Britain Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Hungary Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Iran Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Iraq Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Ireland Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Italy Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Mexico Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Peru Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Switzerland Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Uruguay Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Korea Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Philippines Men Basketball Squad 1948 Summer Olympics
- Template:Argentina Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Canada Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Belgium Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Bulgaria Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Chile Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Cuba Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Czechoslovakia Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Egypt Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Finland Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:France Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Greece Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Hungary Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Israel Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Italy Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Mexico Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Romania Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Switzerland Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Turkey Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Philippines Men Basketball Squad 1952 Summer Olympics
- Template:Bulgaria Men Basketball Squad 1956 Summer Olympics
- Template:Canada Men Basketball Squad 1956 Summer Olympics
- Template:Chile Men Basketball Squad 1956 Summer Olympics
- Template:France Men Basketball Squad 1956 Summer Olympics
- Template:Japan Men Basketball Squad 1956 Summer Olympics
- Template:Singapore Men Basketball Squad 1956 Summer Olympics
- Template:South Korea Men Basketball Squad 1956 Summer Olympics
- Template:Taiwan Men Basketball Squad 1956 Summer Olympics
- Template:Thailand Men Basketball Squad 1956 Summer Olympics
- Template:Philippines Men Basketball Squad 1956 Summer Olympics
- Template:Bulgaria Men Basketball Squad 1960 Summer Olympics
- Template:Czechoslovakia Men Basketball Squad 1960 Summer Olympics
- Template:France Men Basketball Squad 1960 Summer Olympics
- Template:Hungary Men Basketball Squad 1960 Summer Olympics
- Template:Italy Men Basketball Squad 1960 Summer Olympics
- Template:Japan Men Basketball Squad 1960 Summer Olympics
- Template:Mexico Men Basketball Squad 1960 Summer Olympics
- Template:Poland Men Basketball Squad 1960 Summer Olympics
- Template:Philippines Men Basketball Squad 1960 Summer Olympics
- Template:Puerto Rico Men Basketball Squad 1960 Summer Olympics
- Template:Uruguay Men Basketball Squad 1960 Summer Olympics
- Template:Spain Men Basketball Squad 1960 Summer Olympics
- Template:Yugoslavia Men Basketball Squad 1960 Summer Olympics
- Template:Canada Men Basketball Squad 1964 Summer Olympics
- Template:Finland Men Basketball Squad 1964 Summer Olympics
- Template:Hungary Men Basketball Squad 1964 Summer Olympics
- Template:Italy Men Basketball Squad 1964 Summer Olympics
- Template:Japan Men Basketball Squad 1964 Summer Olympics
- Template:Mexico Men Basketball Squad 1964 Summer Olympics
- Template:Peru Men Basketball Squad 1964 Summer Olympics
- Template:Poland Men Basketball Squad 1964 Summer Olympics
- Template:South Korea Men Basketball Squad 1964 Summer Olympics
- Template:Puerto Rico Men Basketball Squad 1964 Summer Olympics
- Template:Uruguay Men Basketball Squad 1964 Summer Olympics
- Template:Yugoslavia Men Basketball Squad 1964 Summer Olympics
- Template:Bulgaria Men Basketball Squad 1968 Summer Olympics
- Template:Cuba Men Basketball Squad 1968 Summer Olympics
- Template:Italy Men Basketball Squad 1968 Summer Olympics
- Template:Mexico Men Basketball Squad 1968 Summer Olympics
- Template:Morocco Men Basketball Squad 1968 Summer Olympics
- Template:Panama Men Basketball Squad 1968 Summer Olympics
- Template:Poland Men Basketball Squad 1968 Summer Olympics
- Template:Senegal Men Basketball Squad 1968 Summer Olympics
- Template:South Korea Men Basketball Squad 1968 Summer Olympics
- Template:Philippines Men Basketball Squad 1968 Summer Olympics
- Template:Puerto Rico Men Basketball Squad 1968 Summer Olympics
- Template:Spain Men Basketball Squad 1968 Summer Olympics
- Template:Czechoslovakia Men Basketball Squad 1972 Summer Olympics
- Template:Egypt Men Basketball Squad 1972 Summer Olympics
- Template:Italy Men Basketball Squad 1972 Summer Olympics
- Template:Japan Men Basketball Squad 1972 Summer Olympics
- Template:Poland Men Basketball Squad 1972 Summer Olympics
- Template:Senegal Men Basketball Squad 1972 Summer Olympics
- Template:West Germany Men Basketball Squad 1972 Summer Olympics
- Template:Philippines Men Basketball Squad 1972 Summer Olympics
- Template:Puerto Rico Men Basketball Squad 1972 Summer Olympics
- Template:Spain Men Basketball Squad 1972 Summer Olympics
- Template:Yugoslavia Men Basketball Squad 1972 Summer Olympics
- Template:Canada Men Basketball Squad 1976 Summer Olympics
- Template:Canada Women Basketball Squad 1976 Summer Olympics
- Template:Cuba Men Basketball Squad 1976 Summer Olympics
- Template:Czechoslovakia Men Basketball Squad 1976 Summer Olympics
- Template:Czechoslovakia Women Basketball Squad 1976 Summer Olympics
- Template:Egypt Men Basketball Squad 1976 Summer Olympics
- Template:Italy Men Basketball Squad 1976 Summer Olympics
- Template:Japan Men Basketball Squad 1976 Summer Olympics
- Template:Japan Women Basketball Squad 1976 Summer Olympics
- Template:Mexico Men Basketball Squad 1976 Summer Olympics
- Template:Puerto Rico Men Basketball Squad 1976 Summer Olympics
- Template:Cuba Men Basketball Squad 1980 Summer Olympics
- Template:Cuba Women Basketball Squad 1980 Summer Olympics
- Template:Czechoslovakia Men Basketball Squad 1980 Summer Olympics
- Template:Hungary Women Basketball Squad 1980 Summer Olympics
- Template:India Men Basketball Squad 1980 Summer Olympics
- Template:Italy Women Basketball Squad 1980 Summer Olympics
- Template:Poland Men Basketball Squad 1980 Summer Olympics
- Template:Sweden Men Basketball Squad 1980 Summer Olympics
- Template:Senegal Men Basketball Squad 1980 Summer Olympics
- Template:Spain Men Basketball Squad 1980 Summer Olympics
- Template:Brazil Men Basketball Squad 1984 Summer Olympics
- Template:Egypt Men Basketball Squad 1984 Summer Olympics
- Template:France Men Basketball Squad 1984 Summer Olympics
- Template:West Germany Men Basketball Squad 1984 Summer Olympics
- Template:Canada Men Basketball Squad 1984 Summer Olympics
- Template:Canada Women Basketball Squad 1984 Summer Olympics
- Template:China Men Basketball Squad 1984 Summer Olympics
- Template:Italy Men Basketball Squad 1984 Summer Olympics
- Template:Uruguay Men Basketball Squad 1984 Summer Olympics
- Template:Yugoslavia Women Basketball Squad 1984 Summer Olympics
- Template:Bulgaria Women Basketball Squad 1988 Summer Olympics
- Template:Central African Republic Men Basketball Squad 1988 Summer Olympics
- Template:China Women Basketball Squad 1988 Summer Olympics
- Template:Czechoslovakia Women Basketball Squad 1988 Summer Olympics
- Template:Egypt Men Basketball Squad 1988 Summer Olympics
- Template:South Korea Men Basketball Squad 1988 Summer Olympics
- Template:South Korea Women Basketball Squad 1988 Summer Olympics
- Template:Canada Men Basketball Squad 1988 Summer Olympics
- Template:Spain Men Basketball Squad 1988 Summer Olympics
- Template:China Men Basketball Squad 1988 Summer Olympics
- Template:Puerto Rico Men Basketball Squad 1988 Summer Olympics
Requesting for bot help to nominate 156 navboxes for deletion (listed above). These navboxes are for teams that finished lower than third place in the Olympic basketball tournaments. Such templates are subject to WP:TCREEP and were previously deleted per May 31, 2021, April 22, 2020, June 7, 2019, and March 29, 2019 (first, second and third) discussions (to name a few). – sbaio 17:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe one day I'll complete User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD and things like this will be much easier.— Qwerfjkltalk 17:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- It is very easy to list these templates at TFD as a batch. Someone with AWB should be able to help you apply the correct TFD template to all of them. Notification of the templates' creators might also be not-too-hard with AWB, especially if you provide a list of those editors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ill tag them, if I could get the editors users ill notify as well. Working with AWB. Geardona (talk to me?) 23:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Geardona, have you completed this task? Thanks! (I'm trying to sort out all the discussions and either make the bot to do them, or close them). MolecularPilot 04:45, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Bulk remove "link will display the full calendar" from articles about calendar years
There are presumably hundreds of articles about calendar years (for example, 671) that contain the text "link will display the full calendar".
I believe this text violates the spirit of WP:CLICKHERE, specifically:
- phrases like "click here" should be avoided In determining what language is most suitable, it may be helpful to imagine writing the article for a print encyclopedia
The text "link will display the full calendar" would of course make no sense in a print encyclopedia, so I think it should be deleted. Given the number of articles that this text appears in, this deletion would best be done by a bot. Stephen Hui (talk) 07:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- A total of 1562 pages use this wording. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:22, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- DreamRimmer, Stephen Hui, this has been discussed before at Misplaced Pages:Bot requests/Archive 84#(link will display the full calendar). — Qwerfjkltalk 11:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- It has also been raised a number of times at WT:YEARS including following the linked BOTREQ (1, 2, 3), all of which were asking to remove it (without reply). Suffice to say, I think per WP:SILENCE there is a general lack of concern about whether this text is removed. Unless there is any significant opposition raised here in the next few days, I would be okay putting in a BRFA to remove the offending text. Primefac (talk) 22:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- If it hasn't been done already, I'd also suggest doing a few dozen "by hand" first, to see if that provokes any objection. I don't expect it will. Dicklyon (talk) 04:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Easy enough to mass-rollback, I just forgot I was planning on doing this. Primefac (talk) 16:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- If it hasn't been done already, I'd also suggest doing a few dozen "by hand" first, to see if that provokes any objection. I don't expect it will. Dicklyon (talk) 04:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- It has also been raised a number of times at WT:YEARS including following the linked BOTREQ (1, 2, 3), all of which were asking to remove it (without reply). Suffice to say, I think per WP:SILENCE there is a general lack of concern about whether this text is removed. Unless there is any significant opposition raised here in the next few days, I would be okay putting in a BRFA to remove the offending text. Primefac (talk) 22:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- DreamRimmer, Stephen Hui, this has been discussed before at Misplaced Pages:Bot requests/Archive 84#(link will display the full calendar). — Qwerfjkltalk 11:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
Province over-capitalization
See WP:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks#50K articles with over-capitalized "Province" and WT:WikiProject Iran#Fixing widespread over-capitalization of "Province" (just started). There are over 50,000 articles with over-capitalized Province since the Jan 2022 multi-RM that moved all the Iranian province titles to lowercase. Assuming the project discussion doesn't turn up resistance to fixing, many of these would be easily amenable to bot fixing, like the task that User:BsoykaBot did for NFL Draft over-capitalization. Dicklyon (talk) 18:50, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
Actually, there's not much activity at WikiProject Iran, so if anyone wants to see this discussed more, point me at a better place to bring it up. Dicklyon (talk) 04:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
I did a bunch of these by hand on Dec. 6 (example). No reaction from anyone. Dicklyon (talk) 04:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
@Bsoyka and DreamRimmer: Thank you both for volunteering to help if/when we see clear consensus or a closed discussion on this. Does anyone have a good idea how to provoke more response? All I've got so far is silence. The big RM was similarly quiet, with no opposition and just 2 supports. Dicklyon (talk) 21:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- This is why bots go through trials; not only does it allow for the bot operator to demonstrate that their bot operates as intended, it gives users the opportunity to give feedback on the task. If this is a potentially contentious task, we can have the bots not mark the edits as minor during the trial to raise more awareness of it prior to acceptance. Primefac (talk) 22:00, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, a trial not marked minor is a good idea beyond the bunch I did by hand not marked minor. Are you prepared to approve such a trial? Bsoyka has a bot that's got demonstrated competence at doing such things, while avoiding purely cosmetic edits. Dicklyon (talk) 02:32, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
I've got no response at the discussion I opened at the project. Is it OK to move forward with bot approval process? Dicklyon (talk) 19:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
@Bsoyka and DreamRimmer: would either of you be willing to file an RFBA on this now, or should I try to provoke discussion elsewhere? Dicklyon (talk) 23:39, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Dicklyon, you can file a WP:BRFA yourself if you are seeking approval to use AWB for this. I recommend the easy-brfa.js script linked on the page. :) MolecularPilot 03:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- I am not seeking to use AWB for this, but for someone else to do so. Dicklyon (talk) 07:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Tagging Category:Cinema of Israel
Hello, I would like to kindly request that all articles, categories, files, etc. within the Category:Cinema of Israel be tagged with the newly created Israeli cinema task force. This will help streamline efforts to improve the quality and coverage of Israeli cinema-related content on Misplaced Pages.
Please exclude the following subcategories, as they may include films that are not necessarily Israeli and these categories include biographies (which are not part of WP Film):
- Category:American remakes of Israeli films
- Category:Film censorship in Israel
- Category:Israeli–Palestinian conflict films
- Category:Films based on Israeli novels
- Category:Films set in Israel
- Category:Films shot in Israel
- Category:Pornography in Israel
- Category:Works by Israeli filmmakers
- Category:Israeli_film_people
I saw the request above on Belgian films and used it as a template for my request. Thank you. LDW5432 (talk) 05:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- This query with depth of 5 returns 1003 articles. I have checked a few random ones, and they seem fine. @LDW5432, can you please go through some random articles and let me know if there are any that should be removed from the list? – DreamRimmer (talk) 15:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Hold on with the bot. I need to remove people pages from the category as they aren't supposed to be in the film task force category. I will list a few that should not be included or we can manually remove later--:- Tel Aviv University
- ICon festival
- Jinni (search engine)
Kibbutzim College- - LDW5432 (talk) 20:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- I updated the bot request to not include biographies. If you run it now with the new parameters and exclude the following four pages then everything should be good to be tagged. @DreamRimmer
- Tel Aviv University
- ICon festival
- Jinni (search engine)
- Kibbutzim College
- - LDW5432 (talk) 21:33, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @LDW5432:This updated query shows 356 pages. If we remove these four, there will be 352 pages left to edit. Can you please confirm, so that I can tag them? – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, this is a good list. Please tag them. Thank you. LDW5432 (talk) 16:19, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, I am finding that the depth isn't high enough to tag many films. Can you run another query on this category? Category:Israeli films
- And exclude this category: Category:Israeli–Palestinian conflict films
- - LDW5432 (talk) 18:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Done Tagged 334 pages. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for tagging those 334 pages.
- In my previous comment, I mentioned that the initial query doesn't have a depth which reaches important articles. The query you ran missed important films like Lemon Popsicle and The House on Chelouche Street.
- Can you run the query again but on this category: Category:Israeli films
- And exclude this category: Category:Israeli–Palestinian conflict films
- Thank you.
- - LDW5432 (talk) 16:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @LDW5432: Can you please tell me which depth is correct? – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- This query finds the missing films. LDW5432 (talk) 16:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are many articles, such as Hounds of War and Gwen Stacy (Spider-Verse), that do not belong to the Cinema of Israel. There are many such articles. If you can provide me with the correct query or a list, I can help. – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hounds of War is made by an Israeli director so it should be included. Some films have Israeli producers. You are correct that the other pages shouldn't be included. I reduced the depth to "2" and it fixes it. Query. - LDW5432 (talk) 17:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @LDW5432: This list contains some articles that do not belong to Israeli cinema, and some users have complained about it. The good thing is that I have only tagged a few from the second query. Please create a correct list; otherwise, I will not be able to assist with this. I am going to revert the last few changes. – DreamRimmer (talk) 10:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Do you not want to include foreign films made by Israeli directors and producers? They don't need to be included. LDW5432 (talk) 20:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @LDW5432: This list contains some articles that do not belong to Israeli cinema, and some users have complained about it. The good thing is that I have only tagged a few from the second query. Please create a correct list; otherwise, I will not be able to assist with this. I am going to revert the last few changes. – DreamRimmer (talk) 10:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hounds of War is made by an Israeli director so it should be included. Some films have Israeli producers. You are correct that the other pages shouldn't be included. I reduced the depth to "2" and it fixes it. Query. - LDW5432 (talk) 17:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are many articles, such as Hounds of War and Gwen Stacy (Spider-Verse), that do not belong to the Cinema of Israel. There are many such articles. If you can provide me with the correct query or a list, I can help. – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- This query finds the missing films. LDW5432 (talk) 16:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @LDW5432: Can you please tell me which depth is correct? – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Done Tagged 334 pages. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @LDW5432:This updated query shows 356 pages. If we remove these four, there will be 352 pages left to edit. Can you please confirm, so that I can tag them? – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Bot to simplify "ref name" content
I have come across some very long ref names in ref tags, sometimes automatically generated by incorporating the title of the work that is being referenced, which is disfavored by WP:REFNAME, which asks that reference names be kept "short and simple" to avoid clutter. A ref name is nothing more than a piece of code by which to identify a reference, and can be as short as "A1" or the like. However, according to this search generously provided by Cryptic, insource:ref insource:/\< *ref *name *= *{76}/, there are over 1,600 Misplaced Pages articles containing ref names that are over 75 characters in length, which is ridiculous. I have started hand-fixing these, and that is arduous, and I suspect bot-fixable. I would therefore like a bot that checks each page for ref names over the length of some set number of characters, perhaps something is short as 30 or 40 characters, and where a ref name is excessively long, shorten it to a more reasonable length (that does not match any existing names on the page).
In the course of this search, I have also come across quite a few ref names that contain complete urls, ] terms as would appear in linked text, and various non-standard characters or text usually used for formatting. I would like any instance of brackets, use of "http://" or "https://" or characters outside of the English alphanumeric set of letters, numbers, and basic punctuation to be stripped out or replaced with characters in that set. BD2412 T 03:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I'd support bot-shortnening without seeing a demo of it. This seems to be more in the wheelhouse of semi-automated fixes. I'm opened to be convinced though. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 03:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- A ref name is not article text. It is literally just a signal to allow multiple uses of a reference. We could replace every ref name in the encyclopedia with a random string of three or four letters/numbers, so long as each ref name was unique within its article, and it would not change their functionality at all. Granted, there are some projects (like those working on comic book movies) where they craft ref names for more informative purposes, but where this is done, the ref names are never excessively long or made with brackets, URLs, or exotic characters. The only thing an excessively long or convoluted ref name accomplishes is reduce usability and clutter up the Wikitext wherever it is used. BD2412 T 03:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- See also User:Nardog/RefRenamer-core.js which is an awesome tool for quickly renaming all refs in a given article. -- GreenC 04:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @GreenC: Does it rename all of them? I am just concerned about the ridiculous ones (see, e.g., this fix). BD2412 T 04:11, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Kudos on the fixes you've done already. One point of WP:REFNAME is that reference names should have semantic value (not, for example "A1" or a random string of characters). It doesn't make the slightest difference to the reader, of course, but makes it easier for human editors to cite the correct source. Are you familiar with RefRenamer? I use it to replace reference names like ":0" and "auto1" with reasonably short but meaningful names, and it makes the replacement process a lot easier. It could simplify the task of replacing obscenely long reference names with much shorter ones, although it's still a by-hand tool, not a bot. It only changes the ones you tell it to. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'll check it out, thanks. However, with thousands of articles having excessively long ref names, there is still likely an advantage for having a bot do some of this lifting. BD2412 T 04:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I might be able to do it manually with this tool, but it does not always actually shorten the name, sometimes it just formats it. This should work on the worst cases, though. BD2412 T 04:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think it should be possible to use the code from RefRenamer in combination with Bandersnatch to run it semi-automatically. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I might be able to do it manually with this tool, but it does not always actually shorten the name, sometimes it just formats it. This should work on the worst cases, though. BD2412 T 04:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'll check it out, thanks. However, with thousands of articles having excessively long ref names, there is still likely an advantage for having a bot do some of this lifting. BD2412 T 04:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- See also User:Nardog/RefRenamer-core.js which is an awesome tool for quickly renaming all refs in a given article. -- GreenC 04:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- A ref name is not article text. It is literally just a signal to allow multiple uses of a reference. We could replace every ref name in the encyclopedia with a random string of three or four letters/numbers, so long as each ref name was unique within its article, and it would not change their functionality at all. Granted, there are some projects (like those working on comic book movies) where they craft ref names for more informative purposes, but where this is done, the ref names are never excessively long or made with brackets, URLs, or exotic characters. The only thing an excessively long or convoluted ref name accomplishes is reduce usability and clutter up the Wikitext wherever it is used. BD2412 T 03:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Seems like a good example of WP:CONTEXTBOT to me. While "Author year" style, for example, will probably work well for types of sources where an author usually only publishes one per year, it won't work all that well for others. And personally I wish people would make more use of naming conventions that are more likely to be globally unique rather than less, often enough I've seen multiple articles on related topics that all cite different articles from a website and, since each only uses one article, the website's name gets used as the ref name, which has led to accidental bad refs if content is copy-pasted between the articles. Anomie⚔ 15:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- That's a good point about copying to other articles. "Authorlastname" is usually sufficient, if not then "Authorlastname YYYY-MM". Likewise the citation should have
|last=
as the first field so it's easy to visually find. I've found these two methods (with RefRenamer) are my current best practice. -- GreenC 16:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)- Even so, I think we can all agree that it is bad to have ref names like:
- "Legitimate politics : a source of codification between theory and practice: A fundamental study of the uniting unity between politics and jurisprudence"
- "urlThe Alkaloids of Tabernanthe iboga. Part IV.1 The Structures of Ibogamine, Ibogaine, Tabernanthine and Voacangine - Journal of the American Chemical Society (ACS Publications)"
- "Dr. Coburn Stands for Science:Opposes Congressional efforts to honor debunked author linked to failed global malaria control"
- That said, I have played around with the ref renamer tool pointed out be GreenC and Worldbruce, and I do think that I can use it to handle this task without needing a bot. BD2412 T 18:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- As such, Request withdrawn by requester. NotAG on AWB (talk) 14:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC) I have amended the template used in this comment because it was causing errors. The BOTREQ template does not have a "withdrawn" option. MolecularPilot 08:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't agree those are bad, at least not for the reason you think they are. The second should drop the odd "url" prefix and the third could use a space after the colon if they're going to be titled like that, but if editors of an article find it useful to use the full title of a work as its ref name then 🤷 why should we care? I've seen you insist on doing things that I personally think are stranger. Anomie⚔ 15:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Even so, I think we can all agree that it is bad to have ref names like:
- That's a good point about copying to other articles. "Authorlastname" is usually sufficient, if not then "Authorlastname YYYY-MM". Likewise the citation should have