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Matthew, regarding your recent edit at ], please review ]. It advises that you shouldn't over-link, and you shouldn't link ordinary words like "soil". Just link to articles that readers would likely want to follow up on. After you've read this, perhaps you could reconsider those edits. Thanks. ] 17:12, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No problem, Matthew. I made the same mistake when I first started, too. Welcome to Misplaced Pages. I hope that you enjoy your time here. ] 18:18, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

==Edit summary==

Thank you for your categorisation work. I have a small request. Would you mind putting an ], if an edit is not minor, or clicking the "minor edit" checkbox if it is a minor edit. Edit summaries serve a very useful purpose, they notify other people what you have changed and it can save us the trouble of actually taking the diffs to see what is going on. Thanks a lot. ] 19:16, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
: And a quick remark. If a math article is in a math category, it is kind of unnecessary to put it in ] too. This makes ] quite big. Thanks. ]

===will oblige on categorizing===
i see your point now on how better to categorize articles, in particular with the ] article. regards ] 01:20, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

: Sounds good. I could have been more diplomatic though. I hope the reversion in ] did not make you too mad. Cheers, ] 01:23, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=="Finals" tournament==
Hi Mayumashu, "''finals'' tournament" is just not proper English. "Tournament finals" is, but it's also a bit over-complicating things. In fact, "final tournament" is correct, as opposed to "final match". Also, when you say "Euro 2004", you imply the final tournament, so no need to add the word there. Sorry to nitpick. --] 12:59, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Mayumashu, I completely understand what you're talking about. The way "final" can refer to either the game or the tournament is confusing. However, "Finals tournament" makes NO SENSE in American English, whereas "Final tournament" can make sense in British English, as far as I know (and "Tournament finals" makes sense in both, but it also sounds a bit cludgy). While there's no need to push one time of English over another on Misplaced Pages, it just makes sense (for me, at least) to avoid a phrase which is gramatically incorrect for a larger percentage of Misplaced Pages's readers. And since RSSSF uses "Final tournament", and so did these pages for months without anything complaining, we should probably go with that. --] 14:40, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Japan Intro ==
:Please explain why you changed this paragraph. Check the facts before changing things. As I wrote, there are a FEW island chains extending away from the mainland, but there NOT a few islands extending away from the mainland. Check how many islands there are in Okinawa. Not few (over 300). Also, mentioning Ryukyu Islands and Okinawan islands in one sentence is also redundant because the Okinawan islands is part of the Ryukyu islands. Change it back. ] 04:28, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm afraid getting it "straighter" compared to getting it "straight" is not enough. You introduced another misleading element by saying "some islands." I wouldn't call hundreds of islands "some." There is no need to quantify it. And your sentence "the lower portion of an island chain known as the Ryukyu Islands, which comprise Okinawa prefecture," is too wordy and unnecessary.

The reason why I included Izu/Ogasawara is because the previous version implied that there was only one island chain (Okinawa) extending from the mainland. I wanted to affirm that that wasn't the case.

Please change it back to my original text. There was nothing wrong with it. ] 23:44, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:I cannot even fully understand your replies. "i resent being told i have my facts wrong when i had but one so." What does that mean? I'm sure you're a nice guy in person, but obviously you are not a very good writer. This matter is not even worth posting on the Japan discussion page. ] 02:22, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)


==Flags==
Hello, the flags are where the players' home towns are, not where they are born. I used the Canadian Soccer website for this infor, and when it was not listed, I did an internet search. -- ] ] - ] 17:34, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Diacritics==
You can use the characters below the edit box - not as fast as typing but it still works. So for example the first five are ÁáÉéÍ. --] 10:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==footy terminology==
Dear Forbsey, a quicky if i may - do Scots call an international (someone who plays for the national side), an internationist? i ve run into the term now a few times and saw where you used it when starting up the page for my favourite soccer player, Gary McAllister, that you used the term. i m wondering if it s a term particularly Scottish or what, as far as you know. appreciate the help, ] 16:15, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Hi Mayumashu. The term 'internationalist' is used by be personally but I wouldn't say that it was generally used by Scots. More people probably say 'international' when describing an international player but both terms are palatable. However feel free to change it if you feel that 'international' is more relavent in terms of common football jargon.
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== Statlers ==

Yep, they were great, and I was a ''huge'' fan of their comedy. ] 02:03, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Nova Scotians by Occupation ==

Hi Mayumashu. I notice you have been using a lot of "Nova Scotian by occupation" type categorizations. While there is precedent for having a People from Nova Scotia cat, breaking it down by occupation is way way overdoing it. There was considerable debate even if occupations should have been broken down by nationality. I strongly recommend that you depopulate these categories (move to the appropriate Canadian by Occupation cats) and put them up for Categories for Deletion. ] 11:38, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
:Hi, I noticed you added the CfD notice to the categories, but didn't list them at ]. Just wanted to let you know that if they aren't listed there, they won't be deleted. --] 16:05, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

== Athletes cats ==

Hi again Matthew - I see you have been continuing your good work with categorization. For the Canadian track athletes cat though, what do you think about the idea, for consistency, of removing the Canadian track athlete cat from Occupations by nationality and make it instead a subcat of Canadian sportspeople cat? ] 14:55, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

== Categories for deletion ==

Hi. Just wanted to let you know that simply adding the cfd notice to a category will not delete them. You need to also list the category at ]. I'll remove the tag for now. If you definitely want to bring the categories up for deletion, please re-add the tag and list it properly. Thanks. BTW, if you need help with this, I'll be happy to lend a hand. --] 17:39, 9 May 2005 (UTC)


*Hi, I noticed you marked ] for deletion but never added it to ]. I've removed the tag for now. If you definitely wanted to delete this category, please make sure you complete both parts of the procedure. Thanks! --] 17:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

== Categories and parents ==

I noticed you added Nova Scotia to Halifax Int. Airport. However, that article is already in Nova Scotia via the Airports-->Transport-->Nova Scotia route, and by policy we don't add articles to parents of cats that they are already in. Hope this clears this up. Cheers. ] <small>(])</small> 23:44, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
*You have to dig a little bit, but here it is "An article should not be in both a category and its subcategory" Cheers. ] <small>(])</small> 08:45, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

== Manchester United/History of Manchester United ==

Hi,

I noticed you'd been working on Man United-related pages and could do with your opinion on something.

The history section was split out of the page last year (I think) but someone then wrote another history section in the main page. Both pages are now well over the recommended maximum size for a Misplaced Pages article, and it's getting to the stage where I suspect people are editing them without reading them all the way through (which would explain why the Glazer takeover is mentioned twice in ], in roughly the same amount of detail each time.

So, my idea is to create new pages for different eras in United's history, merge the relevant bits of ], ] and the History section of ] into each new page and put summaries of each new page on Manchester United, with comments asking people not to make the summaries too long. The new articles would have titles like:

*Manchester United pre-1945
*Manchester United 1945-1968
*Manchester United 1968-1986
*Manchester United 1986-present

I think something like this is necessary to keep the pages manageable, but obviously don't want to make such big changes to other people's work without hearing what people think first. Please let me know what you think, at the ]


Thanks, ] 11:03, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

== For your information... ==

Blanking pages does not delete them; I'm refering to your blanking of a few redirects to ], ie ]. There is a procedure for deleting pages: ], ] and ]. Please follow it next time. Thanks! ''']''']] 03:20, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==

Please do not blank articles without providing some rationale in their discussion page. To do otherwise is vandm at ]. Just wanted to let you know that if they aren't listed there, they won't be deleted. --] 16:05, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

== Athletes cats ==

Hi again Matthew - I see you have been continuing your good work with categorization. For the Canadian track athletes cat though, what do you think about the idea, for consistency, of removing the Canadian track athlete cat from Occupations by nationality and make it instead a subcat of Canadian sportspeople cat? ] 14:55, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

== Categories for deletion ==

Hi. Just wanted to let you know that simply adding the cfd notice to a category will not delete them. You need to also list the category at ]. I'll remove the tag for now. If you definitely want to bring the categories up

== Central Economy ==

Page 33 L16 of my Atlantic Canada Road Atlas First Edition by MapArt Publishing. I can scan it in for you if you want to see it. -- ] ] - ] 01:41, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Hey, alright I will scan it in. I have to install my scanner again, since I havent used it in a while. I reckon it's just an alternate name for economy, as I dont believe my atlas shows Economy. Best regards. -- ] ] - ] 02:59, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::Mmmkay, I wasnt able to get the software working, because my computer collapsed while I was trying to load it, but I did take a photograph of the page, which works just as fine. -- ] ] - ] 03:15, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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==Categories==

Regarding your edits to ], I just wanted to clarify that Misplaced Pages actually has very explicit rules about how the category system is applied -- namely, an article should never be simultaneously filed in both a category and a subcategory of that same category. The rule is always that you file an article ''only'' in the narrowest appropriate categories that don't directly duplicate each other's informational purpose. In this case, the actual appropriate category is ]; since it's in there, it ''doesn't'' also go in "Islands of Canada", "Nova Scotia" or "Canada" since "Islands of Nova Scotia" is ''already'' part of the subcategory tree of all of those. This isn't just a matter of my own personal opinion, by the way -- it's actual Misplaced Pages policy regarding category management. ] 04:22, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

==Categories and double spacing==
I've noticed that while you've been adding cats and footers to articles, you've been double spacing between them and all the sections. This is not necessary, is non-standard and in truth, makes the article harder to read. Could you please refrain from inserting double spaces between sections? Thanks. ] 16:51, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

::If I understand correctly, you said you'll continue to insert double spacing into articles even though you're aware most do not contain it? Are you aware you're not following consensus? ] 09:40, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

:Double spacing is not a good idea, for several reasons. The most important one is that the convention (implicit or explicit, it doesn't matter) here is to use single spacing. Whether or not there is a rule that specifically prohibits it is irrelevant: by using double spacing you create more work for other editors, because they will feel compelled to clean up after you. So please try to follow the conventions and editing practices employed in the ] on Misplaced Pages. Insisting that you are right and everybody else is wrong is generally unwise and doing things your way could easily be seen as ]. Re-adding blank lines is an especially bad idea.

"Whoever" this is that made the above reply, let me say that i have never i conveyed (explicitly nor implicitly, whichever) that others are wrong and i am right on the aesthetics of single versus double spacing between sections. the truth is i should not edit the way articles written by others are spaced nor should wiki editors (i m guessing you have this or a similar position) edit for so-called blank spaces. i ve been disruptive according to the policy you ve cited above (] 04:16:59, 2005-08-04 (UTC)

::The above was the first paragraph of my message. People remove extra blank spaces all the time. The reason is consistency: if I want more space, I can adjust it in my user stylesheet. But that only gives consistent results if the underlying text uses single spacing. --] 05:23, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

:Other reasons why adding blank lines before section headings is bad are that it creates inconsitencies across the project and that it takes control over the layout away from readers. The latter is because you can easily adjust the layout of articles by using a custom ] style sheet. If you prefer double spacing when reading articles, I suggest you modify the default style sheet according to your preferences. See ] for further details. Cheers, --] 19:18, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

You need to edit ]. Try adding the following content (copy this from the rendered HTML page, not from the raw wikitext, though):

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If you want more or less space, adjust the "margin-top" property. --] 05:23, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

== Sir Edward Knatchbull ==

Hello there. ] belongs in ] because the baronetcy which he inherited was created in ]. Why did you change the category? ] ] 10:14, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Same thing with ]. The baronetcy was created in ], right before the Act of Union, which places it in Great Britain, not the United Kingdom. ] ] 10:16, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Oops, I shouldn't have removed the Natives of Lancashire category. That was my mistake. I'll restore it at once. ] ] 11:33, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

== Argentine people ==

Please, bear in mind that ] should not be just categorised by their city/province of birth, but also by more important things such as ]. If the article has no other Argentine category, perhaps it would be better to give it a (id needed new) sub category of ''by occupation''. thenks, ] 12:25, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

== Category change on ] ==

I'm curious as to why you changed one of the categories on the article ] from "People of Ontario" to "Toronto people". As the article states, Clark was born in ] (which is in the ], but is not in Toronto itself), and then moved to Florida, and then back up to Ontario (but not to Toronto). I could find no evidence to suggest that he ever lived in the city of Toronto. Although I backed up my contributions to that article with references, I'm wondering if I got it wrong, and hope that you can clear this up for me. Thanks! ] 14:33, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

:Well, I don't live anywhere near Toronto, and I'm not familiar with the geography of the area, so if you think the category should be changed back, then I won't object. Thanks for the information! ] 18:11, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

==Erroneous entry==

As with the above entry i am requesting that you remove the name of Thomas Browne from your list of Cheshire people. Browne was born in London and lived in Norwich from 1637-1682. I am curious as to how you acquired this misinformation. Please remove entry. From reading the above entries this seems to be a persistent mistake of yours,is Misplaced Pages really about creating lists, or propogating mistakes. Please ammend.]

== ] ==

I saw your changes to ]. Since you objected to the use of ], I've changed it back to ]. This moved ] back into ] where it belongs, instead of ]. I have a ] that is in use on ] that could be a better pick than the fooers template. Would you mind me using that template? The problem with not putting Linguists under Scientists in the national subcategories is that not all national categories have a Social scientists subcat (e.g. ] does not exist, but ] does).

Also, I don't think that ] is accurate, but I left it there. Not all linguists are anthropologists. ] 17:06, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

: P.S. take a look at ]. It already has a number of social scientist subcats under it: anthropologists, psychologists, and sociologists. I think that linguists belongs there too until ] exists. ] 17:10, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

I've started a ]. Please add your new ] to this category. ] 17:29, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hi Mayumashu. I saw that you created this category. I just wonder why you think it was not enough to categorize those articles in ]. From what I know, most mathematicians are mathematics professors. And I think that the absolute majority of mathematics professors who are not serious mathematicians don't deserve an article on Misplaced Pages. So in my view, ] should have been enough for categorizing the notable Canadian mathematicians who are math professors. I wonder what you think. You can reply here, I will keep a watch on this page. Thank you, ] 02:14, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

:Hello Oleg. I agree 200% with you, and would now like to do away with the math professor cat as well as all professor cats. i created it to form a link between ] and ], but i ve since changed my mind about the matter. i think that being a prof (in itself) is NOT encyclopedically noteworthy and therefore that there should be no ] cat. anyone who happens to be a prof and encyclopedically noteworthy because of their research contributions should be catted as an academic, according to their field, shouldn t they. i would like to see ] done away with. i m considering doing away with all the canadian prof sub-cats, but it ll take a bit of work and there are other cat work (my little wiki activity now) i m working on. -] 02:30, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

:: Well, all you need to do is remove the mathematicians from there (put them in ]) and then put a speedy tag in the category, that is <nowiki>{{d}}</nowiki>. That will work because you created it. You can explain in the edit summary or on the category talk page that you don't find it useful anymore. ] 03:09, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

== ] category ==

How is Jack Hanna's relationship to Knoxville more important than his relationship to Ohio? ] isn't just for people who were born there (it's not called "Ohio natives"), and the only subnational place that he's notable in connection with is Ohio, as the director of the Columbus Zoo. His connection to Knoxville is merely trivia to us because he didn't do anything notable there. If he's going to be in a subnational category, Ohio is the only state with which his notability has a significant connection. ] 03:30, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

== Categorizing people by city ==

I notice that you've created a few of these&mdash;why? What do you think is accomplished by categorizing individuals by cities? What do you think the ultimate effect will be? What are your criteria for including them in each city category? Simply having lived there at some time during their lives? Presently living there? ] 14:14, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

I concur. Categories "Natives of Split" and particularly "Natives of Sibenik-Knin" are pointless (the latter is a modern-day county, not a city, even). Please don't do it without prior discussion. --] 08:18, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

== formatting of stub notices ==

If you wish to make {{tl|hoopsbio-stub}} indented, do it there, don't indent it in individual articles using it. --] 07:51, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

== User Categorisation ==

You were listed on the ] page as living in or being associated with Canada. As part of the ] project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit ] for instructions.--] 01:12, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

==Irish Chicagoans==
Hi there. If you are still interested ] is currently nominated for deletion:
] ] 16:04, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

==]==
Just a minor note on a recent edit of yours -- the Canadian notice board discussed it long ago and decided that ] should not itself contain any articles about individual members, past or present. People should only be filed in one or more appropriate subcategories, because the main category would just be too large and unwieldy otherwise. So the main category should contain ''only'' the subcategories and the list-of-members articles. Thanks. ] 06:43, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

== You put an AfD on a page I wrote in my own userspace -- accusing me of vandalizing my own page ==

You put an AfD on a page I wrote in my own userspace -- accusing me of vandalizing my own page.
See ].
"Assume goodwill" we are told. So I am going to assume this was an honest mistake on your part.
Can I count on you fixing it? I'd like you to remove the entry from the AfD list. -- ] 05:33, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks for taking care of it. When I wrote you I didn't see what attracted your attention. But afterwards I did.
:I have been monitoring newspaper articles about the detainees in the US "war on terror". And, when I come across an article or two that have enough information in them to write an article I start an article, or contribute to their existing article, if they have one. I started the article on Omar Khadr. And in the last two months a whole bunch more. 48 so far.
:Well. about three weeks ago I had an article I started nominated for AfD. Actually four of them at once. '''"Not notable"''', '''"Anti-American bias"'''... One of the four was deleted. As part of that discussion someone suggested a "]". A good idea. I started it. It was nominated for deletion almost right away. It survived. Overwhelming keeps. Just a few deletes. One user cryptically said they had a "concern about sourcing". I made several attempts to learn what this persons concern was -- thinking that they were also going to assume good will.

:Wrong. They misused the copyright violation procedure, submitteing it in bad faith I believe. I continued to be polite, until they started lying in the wikipedia copyright problems page. I became more blunt, and said I thought they were showing bad faith. They didn't respond directly. But they promptly nominated an article I had written about a US soldier, ], who is under investigation for killing a young girl, and seriously wounding her sister and mother. Later today they nominated a second article I had written about a US soldier, ], the officer who drafted the illegal interrogation procedures that caused so many problems in Iraq. I think this is not a coincidence.

:Anyhow. I made copies of all those articles in my user space. But I overlooked that the links in those article would show up in the "what links here". And it would mess up the categories, etc. So I should tank you for triggering my understanding that I should surround my backup copies with a nowiki...

:When you nominated my backup copy for AfD I did consider that there was a conspiracy to delete or suppress all content that showed the war on terror in a bad light. Lol. --- ] 06:17, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

==]==

People are not supposed to be simultaneously filed in parent categories and subcategories of the same parent. We do not file MPs directly in ]; we file them in subcategories by their province and political party only. ] 18:55, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

: Sorry...looks like you did this ''before'' I noted this above re: ]; I just can't figure out why it wasn't showing up in the master category at the time. ] 18:57, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Any mistakes i have made in filing MPs is merely accidental for i do a lot of filing and fully intend to file MPs by province. Apologies for my carelessness with the one or two you ve brought up. -] 02:03, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

==Irish British category vote requested==

Hi I noticed you voted to keep Scottish-Americans I would appreciate your help to retain ], as I feel is perfectly valid to point out Irish people or people of near Irish descent who have contributed to life in Great Britain (England Scotland and Wales). ] Thanks!! ] 01:25, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for your message. Would you consider voting for a rename ], Irish diaspora is a widely used phrase and doesn't place an indication of citizensip which the other name gave so I think this is acceptable. ] Thanks ] 10:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== ], etc. ==

Hi. When you add ], e.g. to a person who already has ], you should delete the latter category, since ] belongs to ]. Let me know if this doesn't make sense. TIA, -- ] | ] 00:07, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:I have been - i apologize if i missed one.-] 03:29, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


==Irish British eureka moment==
Hi Mayumashu I think I've finally worked out the best solution to resolve the disagreement on this category. We should split this category into ], and ] for people who live in Great Britain who call(ed) themselves Irish (whether they were born or grew up in the ], ]or born to ex pats abroad who now live in Great Britain). I would appreciate if you could support the new proposal at ]. Thanks ] 14:03, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

== Please stop! ==

Please stop creating new categories for traditional counties of Scotland, and re-allocating people to them from modern council areas. This has already been a subject for debate at Cfd recently, when ] was deleted. Please raise the issue at ]. We must come to a consensus on this one, because having two parallel systems is very confusing. It must be pointed out that traditional counties have not existed for 30 years, and the new council areas seem here to stay because no political party wants to change them.--] 15:36, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
:i m only relocating individuals who were dead long before there were coucil areas - it s far more confusing to have 19th century people in coucil area cats!! -] 15:41, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

==Jewish American actors==
Hi, I noticed your vote on this. I just wondered whether you realised that this category contains many people in it have only one parent (or even grandparent in some cases) who was jewish, do not identify themselves as Jewish American and are in other (ethnicity)-American categories. I think it needs to be deleted because it doesn't make sense that a person who does not identify as wholly jewish could be described as a jewish american actor such as ], ], ], ]. ] 00:26, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
:it s a problem with all similar categories - the point does not warrant getting rid of the cat, just the pages you ve mentioned plus an explanation as to why you ve removed them as discussion on the page -] 12:35, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Hi, thnks for your comment on the cfd page. People are being included in Jewish American categories not using the religious requirement that you have a jewish mother but regarding jewish as an ethnicity. So, even if only their father or grandfather was jewish they are being added to this category. It just seems totally non sensical to have people described as jewish american actors if they do not identify as jewish and are also of mixed ancestry like ], ], ], people like these should be in a category like Americans with Jewish ancestry to avoid these sorts of labelling problems, the same should be done for all the other ethnicity categories. ] 13:01, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

==American geography by state==
You agreed with me that ] should be renamed ]. I have now nominated all the American states for renaming, and if you could find the time to vote in favour, I would be very grateful. ] 23:37, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

==]==

We've been through the thing about Misplaced Pages's categorization rules before: ] is already a subcategory of ]; accordingly, a person ''cannot'' be simultaneously filed in both categories. ] 04:04, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
:North Vancouver is a separate city and ] is necessarily both for people of Vancouver and Greater Vancouver, thus the overlapping -] 04:08, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
::If you feel strongly that the possibility of confusion exists, the other alternative would be to put her in "People from British Columbia" ''instead'' of "Vancouverites"; the fundamental problem is that if you worked hard enough, you could find a reason for absolutely every article on Misplaced Pages to get exempted from the categorization rules. If a category scheme creates too many problems of this type, it doesn't mean we should allow exception after exception; it means the category is badly thought out and should be fundamentally restructured. ] 04:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
:::having her in both is a perfectly fine exception to allow and there aren t that many (perhaps 5%) of pages catting people by their province/city of origin that have this kind of overlap. not everything is always black and white - shades of grey do exist - ] 04:22, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
::::No, it really isn't; Misplaced Pages rules are quite explicit that we just don't simultaneously file an article in both a subcategory and a parent of that same subcategory. When it comes to categorization, a shade of grey just means the contrast needs to be sharpened. Categories should be defined and structured in such a way that "exemptions" are never even ''needed''. ] 07:19, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::then these so-called rules may need to further evolve to reflect realities that exist. there are other cases too. most states have a state writer's subcat. but if a writer happens to also be an actor too, then she or he should rightly appear in both the sub-cat for state writers and its parent cat for people from the state. the rules are but rules of thumb anyway and can be changed given a great enough collective will. User:Bearcat, i come across your edits and commits fairly often and i can tell you we re of different minds on many issues - i know we re not going to sway the other person to change their mind. to sort out the Vancouverite sub cat issue without an overlap, i ll go and start up sub-sub-cats for North Vancouver, New Westminister, Maple Ridge, and other small cities in the Greater Vancouver area despite feeling personally that they are rather smally populated to have cat for the time being - ideally though i d like to all cities eventually have a cat for its natives/inhabitants so now will suffice. i hope despite our differences no hard feelings at all. Regards, -] 02:44, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==

How funny that you're related. I'm actually just now reading a book called ''The Yellow Kids'' about Creelman and other contemporaries. It's fascinating stuff. Feel free to expand the stub if you can; I plan on expanding it quite a lot when I find time next. &middot; ]<sup>]</sup> 16:06, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

==Categories==
Hi, sorry I missed your comment on my talk amidst the whole kerfuffle. I agree that sometimes it would be useful to have browse a whole category of many occupations like writers, artists, actors, singers without country specifity and much faster thanis currently possible. I think this would need a software change so maybe I or you could suggest it somewhere? Also Re: ] I would be very grateful if you could reconsider your vote as this category is meaningless as gay people have lived in many eras and countries with different laws (the same applies to Jewish criminals, Catholic criminals etc.). I don't think any blanket criminal category should exist unless it is just a parent cat for more specific crimes. Regards ] 00:09, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== cats for ] ==

Hi, just wondering if there's any particular reason for your change of <nowiki>]</nowiki> to <nowiki>]</nowiki> (without capitalizing the second C). The C definitely ''is'' capitalized... Heck I just saw him playing a game against the Leafs last night on ] and his sweater definitely had it capitalized. (Very technically speaking, I suspect the first C should be in superscript, resulting in M<sup>c</sup>Cauley, but that's a minor detail).

The name after the pipe isn't displayed on the category page, so I suppose it doesn't really matter, but I'm just curious if there's a rule I should know about. --] 19:33, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks for the explanation! --] 04:44, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== AfD for ] ==

You goofed the AfD for ], putting the text inside your AfD for ]. I'll fix it. ] 10:51, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

== NS Communities Project... ==

Would you like to join the Nova Scotia Misplaced Pages project I am about to start with PlasmaEast? We are planning on launching a NS Community templates for Counties, Towns/Municipalities, and HRM, similar to the template that started appearing this week on county pages ]. Also, have a bi-weekly "Nova Scotia Project Page" to focus efforts. Interested?] 11:33, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
:sure. templates is not really my interest but they look good to me ] 23:25, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
:Good! Templates are just my thing. I feel strongly that we could focus our work a bit and bring the whole ] section to a higher standard. ] 23:33, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Discussion has started on the ] article, please head over there and watch the project page! ] 00:30, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

== Category:Canadian university and college chief executives ==

Hi Mayumashu,

I am in the process of merging the categories ], ], and ] into the new ]. I find it very confusing to have three categories for essentially the same position with just different names. I have also created the ] since this is more of an honorary position. Let me know if you have any issues with this.

--] 18:04, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
::sounds great. i rather hastily created them without having sorted out the distinctions such as the one you mention of chancellors being rather ceremonial. appreciate that you mailed me on it too. best regards, ] 09:15, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== Dr.Ann Duggan ==
Hey, I was wondering if you can comment on this page since you have added to it. Thanks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ann_Duggan

] 7:30, 06 January 2006 (UTC)

::i simply added a category. i d have to say i don t think she s notable enough, so i ll refrain from voting. regards ] 10:16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

== Page Blanking ==

On 18-Jan, you blanked ]. Your edit summary stated that redirects to categories are inappropriate. While that's true, page blanking is also a ]. I've changed it to be a redirect to ]. Thanks! -- ] 15:23, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

== Cinema in scotland ==

Have you seen this re-nomination at Cfd: ]--] 04:33, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==
Hi Mayumashu. What was your logic for putting ] as a supercategory of ]?

If you're referring to the idea that aboriginal peoples came across the Pacific from Asia, well, that's true, but it happened so long ago that classifying them as "Asians" doesn't make sense. By extending the same logic a few millenia backwards we might as well all be Africans. --] 21:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::hi there. you re right. i checked to see when humans migrated into Europe and like you suggest it only happened recently, c.40 000 years ago compared to the migration of proto-Native Canadians, Americans, etc. which was 15 000 to 30 000 years ago. i think you ve raised a perfect point for changing the sub-catting i did. i ll change it and apologies for my not checking to see when the European migration occurred ] 05:40, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==Categories==

Would you please not apply redlinked categories to articles? Misplaced Pages has a rule about this — if you want to apply a category that doesn't already exist, you ''have to'' create the category ''immediately''. You ''cannot'' leave red category links on articles under any circumstances. ] 20:11, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==Wikimedia Canada==
Hi there! I'd like to invite you to explore ], and create a list of people interested in forming a local chapter for our nation. A local chapter will help promote and improve the organization, within our great nation. We'd also like to encourage everyone to suggest projects for our national chapter to participate in. Hope to see you there!--] 17:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

==Irish in GB cat vote==
Hi, it would better to vote rename for this cat, otherwise someone would have to go through and change all the people in the cat by hand (the Irish in GB cat can then be recreated or just make the England Wales and Scot cats as sub cats of Irish emigrants). If the cat is renamed a bot will automatically change all the articles ]. Thanks ] 18:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

==Football Aid==
I've noticed you did an edit on Owen Hargreaves back a while ago. I nominated the article at ]. Maybe you can help out by voting and do more edits. ] 00:32, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
::thanks but no, i m not a fan of his. took a peak though and his article looks a lot better than it did a year ago. just needs the stats table filled in ] 02:34, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

==Re: Categories: Phoenixers and Tucsonans==
I have proposed renaming this, for the express purpose that people from Phoenix, Arizona are ''not'' called Phoenixers at all. The proper usage, as attested in all local newspapers, is "Phoenician". However, this coincides with the adjective for residents of ancient Phoenicia as well. (Also see ) The only people who refer to residents of Phoenix as Phoenixers are out-of-towners, and the vast majority of hits for "Phoenixers" on Google refer to clubs based in Britain.

Similarly, the proper term for a resident of Tucson, Arizona is not Tucsoner, but Tucsonan (see ).

Both of these terms (Phoenician and Tucsonan) are widely attested in local media, whereas Phoenixer and Tucsoner are absent. I think this is pretty good grounds for speedy renaming.

Cheers! -- ] 22:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hi. I reverted your category blanking on Andrew Carnegie. It sounded from your edit summary that you were seeing the categories as redlinks or something, but they are valid categories as far as I can tell. If I read your summary wrong, feel free to explain more what you're trying to do. Thanks! :) --] 13:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::hi. no,　his category page ] already links or should link to these same category pages whose links i blanked. its just rather needless duplication ] 13:29, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Hmm. I think from a categorization point of view, his article should have the categories applied to it. When his category (which is kind of odd in itself) has categories applied to it, that makes it a subcategory of those categories. So, I'd rather see ] point to ] than ] because there are no other steel magnates that would go into the subcategory ]. Does that make sense? If so, I'll try to move some of those categories from the ] over to the article. While there is some duplication, it isn't complete. --] 14:33, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::i agree that there is some oddity in it and think what you suggest doing here is good ] 02:03, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

==Actually non-straightforward category name changes==

Hi there, I just lodged a "complaint" about the "nationals by ethnicity" category ]s which unfortunately happened before I was aware of the related discussion and vote. Please take a look at the comment, and feel free to respond, at the ]. --] 23:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== Category:People from Oakland ==

Hi. Can you inform me as to why ] was redirected to ]? This doesn't seem to make any sense to me. I could be wrong, but I don't think "Oaklander" is a word that is used by anyone other than the person who created this cat. &mdash;] | ] 00:01, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
::Hi. the term 'Oaklanders' is used in like the fourth paragraph of the article ], so it seems at least some people use the ]. ] 02:56, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the response. As it turns out, the City of Oakland and the media ('']'') use the term on their websites, but I don't think anyone from Oakland ever uses the term, nor have I ever heard someone from Oakland refer to themselves as an "Oaklander". &mdash;] | ] 03:46, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
::::interesting. i personally like using the demonyms because they tidy up page names but there is the issue of their dissuse amongst everyday folk. there was a vote on the issue of using demonyms for people of California sub-cat pages back in the autumn, which ended no consensus to change, hence the redirect as it is - to get a date for that vote and debate see the history of the ] page (i checked and the debate occurred around 27 Nov. '05). best regards ] 03:54, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

As regards you saying there's no evidence he holds Brazilian citizenship... he was born in Brazil, and a quick Google on the subject says Brazil, like most countries, automatically grants citizenship to anyone born in the country, regardless of the parents' nationality.

That said, I haven't re-added the category you removed since I highly doubt he identifies himself as "Canadian-Brazilian". But just thought you should be aware that many countries grant citizenship by birth and unless he has renounced it Regehr is indeed a Brazillian citizen, as well as Canadian. --] 08:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::thanks for the info. i would then prefer to have him listed as a Canadian-Brazilian and will restore the cat link as i think self-identication is too vague a way of determing the matter ] 11:00, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

== Indianapolitans ==

I see you created ]. I have lived in Indianapolis for 28 years and have never heard the term "Indianapolitan". Where did that come from? --] 16:24, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:Hi. it seems to be the most commonly used ] to refer to people from Indy - a search gets 50 or so unique hits. demonyms allow the page names to be more concise as well as less "sterile" - the problem is though that demonyms are (i m now learning) not so commonly used in some (perhaps many) Ameican cities. go ahead and put it up name-change nomination if you feel "people from indianapolis" is a more appropriate way to name the page ] 05:16, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
::Well, before I do, I will do some more research. My wife, who was born here (I came after college), has also not heard the term. There is no need to act in haste. --] 05:22, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

Please don't remove categories like this. Both are accurate. --] (]) 13:11, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
::other categories links listed on this page (such as ] or ]) are sub-categories for the supra-category ]. it is conventional practice across the encyclopedia to not list supra-category links on article pages ] 14:31, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:Sorry for th misunderstanding, but a more accurate edit summary would have avoided this; you wrote "removed improper cat link", which &ndash; in light of the current debate on the Talk page &ndash; didn't look as though you were merely pruning parent categories. --] (]) 16:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:::that was for a second edit of my own goof - i had added an improper cat link, realized it later, and then edited it out. i made two edits and the first edit summary i gave, "removed supra cat link, ..." accurately describes my removing the ] link. (i see that the supra-cat link has been re-removed) ] 01:57, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

== Prospector categories ==

Someone created ] today and peopled it mainly with Australian gold rush prospectors. While poking around, I noticed you had previously created ], with only ] in it, who was also put in the new category. I made the Gold prospectors category a sub of the new one & categorized the new one under mining. I'm thinking of putting in four or five ] figures in one of the two categories, but before I do that, I'm wondering whether we should merge the two categories at this point, given the relatively small number of articles. What are your thoughts? ] 06:43, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::thanks for asking. i guess merging given the small number of prospector bios out there would be the better choice, but i wouldn t be bothered the slightest either way. regards ] 11:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
:::After giving it some thought and poking around a bit more, I think we should keep both categories as they can both easily be populated a bunch of people who already have articles. ] 15:05, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

== Ken Babstock ==
Hi! Do you ''know'' that being from Newfoundland is incidental to Ken? Just wondering. --] 16:18, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
::hello. my point on the matter of "people from" category pages is that a person is not ''from'' a place he or she wasn t raised in. it s where a person is raised that contributes to how they become "shaped" as people. ] 01:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Hi again. Your point is well taken, however that distinction seems a bit arbitrary. A person's birthplace can also shape them even if they are raised somewhere else. Giving a rather depressing example, suppose someone survived the bombing of Nagasaki as an infant, was raised in Toledo, and suffered from radiation sickness their whole life? Would they not be 'shaped' by their birthplace? I'm sure that any survey of biographical literature will reveal many other kinds of less dramatic but still significant 'birthplace-only' influences.
:::Perhaps most importantly, people are shaped by their internal imagery, which can crystallize around a tiny kernal of information. My point is that the statement "that he was born in Newfoundland is incidental - he was raised in Ontario and is therefore native to to there" has an authoritative tone to it which I am challenging. KB has travelled to - and written poems about - Newfoundland, and I don't think that's just by chance. --] 16:49, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

== Northern Irish people ==

Hi. Please take a look at my comment on your rename nomination ]. Thanks. --] 20:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

==Misplaced Pages survey==

Hi. I'm doing a survey of Misplaced Pages editors as part of a class research project. It's quick, anonymous, and the data will be made available to the Misplaced Pages community later this month. Would you like to take part? . Thanks! ] 23:57, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

== Canadian musicians categorization effort ==

Hi, I notice you were responsible for creating and populating much of the structure under ]. Just thought that you may be interested to know that we're currently continuing to build on this structure at ]. &ndash;] 03:43, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

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