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Hi, you drew this cool restoration of ] a while back, which is now in a featured article. A paper just came out that criticised Carpenter's cervical hald-ring configuration, suggesting there would have been two half-rings, as in related genera. As your restoration shows a gap above the armour, it would appear you followed Carpenter's hypothesis, perhaps it could be modified to reflect Arbou'rs more well founded proposal? Also, the eyes seem a tad too big... ] (]) 21:32, 15 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:Thanks for the note. I think standard practice with new research and reconstructions is to wait and see how the new paper is received before changing anything, but I don't pay attention to ankylosaur research so I don't really know whether this paper is changing consensus. That said, I probably won't have the time (or expertise; ankylosaurs are not my thing at all, and that illustration was originally made for a chart) to edit this recon, but you or anyone else is welcomed to have a go at it! -] (]) 22:04, 15 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:::Yup, sounds like good occurrence to revise, then. I've just been burned by things like the venomous Sinornithosaurus hypothesis and other things people were very excited about when they first came out. ;) If you want, I can email you the PSD of the Ankylosaurus if that would make it any easier to edit. -] (]) 22:15, 15 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Hey, thanks for working on a new image! My thinking on the subject of arm feathers in large dromies isn't that they shouldn't be pennaceous (they certainly should), but that they'd more likely IMO lack the closed, zip-up vanes found in basal forms. Not that it would be impossible for them to have had closed-vaned feathers, but I'm just having trouble thinking of a reason for their retention. Modern ratites all have very large pennaceous feathers for both, display, aerodynamics when running, and shade/cooling. However none have retained the closed-vaned feathers of their ancestors, despite apparently having lost flight multiple times. My off the cuff educated guess is that this is due to the high maintenance cost of vaned feathers, extra preening to keep them zipped and free of parasites, etc. While dromies have extra tools in their arsenals (namely teeth, obviously they couldn't preen their remiges with their wing claws), based on living birds it doesn't seem like closed-vaned feathers are necessary for display--the degraded vanes of ostriches do just fine. I'd say give them whatever kind of feathers you like if you have a different reasoning (retention for the iridescent color-producing effects maybe?), but personally I'd choose ratite-style as I did with my image of ''Achillobator''. Since ''Deinonychus'' is much, much smaller I think a lot more leeway can be given there (though it is still in Rhea-Emu territory weight wise). EDIT Oh, and I think kiwi-like body feathers are a safe bet, though ''Microraptor'' and ''Anchiornis'' and even ''Archaeopteryx'' do seem to have pennaceous contour feathers over some parts of the body (hips and legs in Archie, not specified in my Micro and Anchie descriptions). ] (]) 17:04, 1 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
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:Sorry to barge in on you Gents (I saw your question on Marins page). One reason for long arm feather, pennaceous or not, that is mentioned here and there and that (contrary to most other explanations) can be backed up with fossil evidence is egg incubation. We know oviraptorids folded their arms in bird fashion over their eggs (see '']'' for a couple of shots), it stands to reason they had a feather wing serving that very function. A number of small to medium size theropods had eggs arranged in a circle or half circle in the nest, leaving room for the pubis, indicating they incubated them by sitting on them as birds today. The fancy wrist flick of the maniraptorans allow them to fold their hand sideways along their lower arms. As a "predatory mechanism" as the name imply it is useless. The only reasonable reason I have ever heard for this flick is to stack the incubating wings safely out of the way when running and fighting. Old Aunty Archy have wings long enough to fly or at least glide with, but wings would necessarily have to predate flight, and the maniraptoran flick gives us a hint of when wings came about. I am fairly sure you will be right in equipping ''Utharaptor'' with proper closed or semi-closed vanes held in typical bird position. As for body feather I agree with you and Martin that Kiwi feathers (or perhaps emu?) would be a reasonable comparison. | |||
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I understand, you worked hard to create that Utahraptor restoration just for that article, so I won't ruin your hard work. In my opinion, which you dont have to heed, you should have made the color a lot less bland. Why'd you make it muddy brown when it could have been any other color? In the small thumbnail pic in the article it just looks like a silhouette. Also, putting feathers all the way down to the end of its snout makes it look cute, contrary to the ferocious predator it likely was. Otherwise, good job. I could never create a drawing like that, so maybe I shouldn't be talking. ] (]) 23:00, 11 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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:Thanks for your compliments on my work. The reason I chose to make it look "bland" is simply because it's probably more accurate to depict it that way. You're right that we don't (and probably can't) "know" what coloration ''Utahraptor'' had in life, but there are certain things we can infer. First of all, it is very uncommon for extant predatory animals to be brightly-colored. This is very true of birds, where the vast majority of bright plumage is found in herbivorous or insectivorous animals; chiefly predatory birds, like hawks and owls, tend to be exclusively earth-toned. The brightest color you'll find in a hawk is the russet of the ]'s tail, which is similar in hue to the head-top I've given my ''Utahraptor''. | |||
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:There is a more important reason, though. Even though bright coloration is usually restricted to non-carnivorous animals in life, the type of feather that ''Utahraptor'' had simply would have been unable to display certain hues. The structure of ''Utahraptor'' feathers would have been fairly primitive, and could not have displayed the structural coloration seen in green and blue feathers. Additionally, its diet would have not included the plant-derived ]s necessary for the formation of bright yellow, red and orange pigments. The feathers of ''Utahraptor'' are most likely to have resembled the feathers of the modern ] or ] in structure, which are both very drab birds. These kinds of feathers are not made for flying - ''Utahraptor'' obviously could not fly - and lack the complex structure of interlocking barbules that traps air bubbles to refract blue light. Since no true blue pigments exist in birds, blue coloration is effectively restricted to aerial birds. There is one single known green pigment in birds, ], which is restricted (insofar as we know) to one group of birds. All other green coloration in birds is produced by the combination of blue refraction from air bubbles overlapping yellow carotenoid pigments. | |||
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:The image was also replaced because the former image contained certain inaccuracies. This is discussed somewhat in thread on the talk page. It has a bald head, blue and green feathers (even if real ''Utahraptor''s weren't as drab as mine, they almost certainly could not have had green and blue colors because their structure would not permit that), and the hand feathers do not obviously connect to the second digit. It doesn't really matter that snout-feathers make my version look "cute" - phylogenetic evidence from basal dromaeosaur fossils that have given us actual feather impressions, like '']'', show that the ancestral state of dromaeosaurs is to have feathers extending to near the tip of the snout. This may change with future evidence, but for now, it is most parsimonious to reconstruct dromaeosaurs this way. Anyway, all of this goes to say that my reconstruction of ''Utahraptor'' contains very little of my own preference - most of what went into it reflects very careful phylogenetic, comparative and mechanical inference dictated by parsimony. -] (]) 00:16, 12 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Thanks for uploading the new version! I think as long as it doesn't contradict published info it should be fine. It could just be considered a different interpretation done for unspecified reasons. Artists update their stuff all the time so it should be ok. Dinoguy2 (talk) 16:35, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
- Makes sense, especially in order to be consistent with the size chart. ;) -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 23:31, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
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This is a very elegant picture; thank you for making the world a more beautiful place through it! — Sebastian 23:36, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
- And thank you for the kind words, Sebastian! -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 14:05, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
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Perhaps my English is not that good, however direct questions in encyclopedias are rather goofy. I speak of your revert on my edit at Microraptor. Perhaps you could rewrite that sentence removing the interrogative tone. Thanks and good work. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 07:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note--my reversion was based on the grammatical confusion of the edit (and terms like "birdsavian"), but I do agree that the sentence should be reworked to remove the rhetorical question. Take a look at it now and see if it's an improvement. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 16:50, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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Ankylosaurus neck rings
Hi, you drew this cool restoration of Ankylosaurus a while back, which is now in a featured article. A paper just came out that criticised Carpenter's cervical hald-ring configuration, suggesting there would have been two half-rings, as in related genera. As your restoration shows a gap above the armour, it would appear you followed Carpenter's hypothesis, perhaps it could be modified to reflect Arbou'rs more well founded proposal? Also, the eyes seem a tad too big... FunkMonk (talk) 21:32, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note. I think standard practice with new research and reconstructions is to wait and see how the new paper is received before changing anything, but I don't pay attention to ankylosaur research so I don't really know whether this paper is changing consensus. That said, I probably won't have the time (or expertise; ankylosaurs are not my thing at all, and that illustration was originally made for a chart) to edit this recon, but you or anyone else is welcomed to have a go at it! -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 22:04, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, I might have a go at it. As for new versus old hypotheses, Arbour's is based on phylogenetic bracketing, whereas Carpenter's was pretty much just made up... FunkMonk (talk) 22:13, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yup, sounds like good occurrence to revise, then. I've just been burned by things like the venomous Sinornithosaurus hypothesis and other things people were very excited about when they first came out. ;) If you want, I can email you the PSD of the Ankylosaurus if that would make it any easier to edit. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 22:15, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Would be nice! I'll send a modified version back for your approval once I get to it... By the way, I thought the venom thing was discredited? Or well, no spoilers! FunkMonk (talk) 22:20, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Not sure I have your email (and can't send attachments via the Wiki email form), so how about shooting me an email and I'll reply with the attachment. And yeah, the Sinornithosaurus venom study has been discredited (despite subsequent attempts by the authors to justify it), and that's my point: editors often read an exciting new study in paleontology and want to make immediate article changes, without waiting for the new study to be critically analyzed by other researchers in the field. For that reason I'm always reluctant to make immediate changes when a new paper challenges a long-held paradigm. Paleontology articles are not subject to the same guidelines about primary vs. secondary sources as many other topic areas at Misplaced Pages, because the turnover rate is so slow (if we waited for every new taxon to show up in secondary lit before including them here, we'd have half as many dinosaur articles!). But it does mean we should be especially discerning about immediately making changes to include the conclusions of brand new papers. Like I said, ankylosaurs aren't my thing so I'm happy for others to make the call here, it's just a general principle to keep in mind. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 22:30, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Agree, though the authorship of the venom theory already rings alarm bells by itself... You mailed me some time ago about a silhouette, so I've just replied to that one... FunkMonk (talk) 22:33, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Not sure I have your email (and can't send attachments via the Wiki email form), so how about shooting me an email and I'll reply with the attachment. And yeah, the Sinornithosaurus venom study has been discredited (despite subsequent attempts by the authors to justify it), and that's my point: editors often read an exciting new study in paleontology and want to make immediate article changes, without waiting for the new study to be critically analyzed by other researchers in the field. For that reason I'm always reluctant to make immediate changes when a new paper challenges a long-held paradigm. Paleontology articles are not subject to the same guidelines about primary vs. secondary sources as many other topic areas at Misplaced Pages, because the turnover rate is so slow (if we waited for every new taxon to show up in secondary lit before including them here, we'd have half as many dinosaur articles!). But it does mean we should be especially discerning about immediately making changes to include the conclusions of brand new papers. Like I said, ankylosaurs aren't my thing so I'm happy for others to make the call here, it's just a general principle to keep in mind. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 22:30, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Would be nice! I'll send a modified version back for your approval once I get to it... By the way, I thought the venom thing was discredited? Or well, no spoilers! FunkMonk (talk) 22:20, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yup, sounds like good occurrence to revise, then. I've just been burned by things like the venomous Sinornithosaurus hypothesis and other things people were very excited about when they first came out. ;) If you want, I can email you the PSD of the Ankylosaurus if that would make it any easier to edit. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 22:15, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, I might have a go at it. As for new versus old hypotheses, Arbour's is based on phylogenetic bracketing, whereas Carpenter's was pretty much just made up... FunkMonk (talk) 22:13, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
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FYI, Emily Willoughby was just created. All the best, --Animalparty! (talk) 18:16, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I'm under the impression that it's bad form for the subject of an article to make any edits on it, is that generally accurate? -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 18:24, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- The main relevant guidelines are WP:BLP, WP:Conflict of interest, and WP:Autobiography. Editing articles about one's self is not forbidden, especially if there are obvious errors or privacy violations: see WP:BLPKIND and WP:BIOSELF. You should generally avoid writing about yourself, per WP:COISELF, but it is considered acceptable to pose edit requests (or perhaps additional sources) on talk pages, per WP:AUTO#IFEXIST. Problematic content can be addressed per WP:AUTOPROB. --Animalparty! (talk) 19:31, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. The only error I see so far is that Ohio State is not my alma mater, though I attended there for two years. http://www.isironline.org/2017-isir-prize-for-best-student-paper-emily-willoughby/ -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 20:59, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- Fixed it. Congratulations and thanks for all the images you've contributed. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 22:07, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. The only error I see so far is that Ohio State is not my alma mater, though I attended there for two years. http://www.isironline.org/2017-isir-prize-for-best-student-paper-emily-willoughby/ -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 20:59, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Thanks for your note--I admit to having fallen into lazy habits in the absence of much collaboration on the article, but I will add summaries nevertheless. Cheers! -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 01:09, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
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Dinosaur barnstar
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- Thank you very kindly, FunkMonk! -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 15:03, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, a regular vandal sock-puppet has uploaded one of your images to Commons, seemingly without permission. I have tagged it as a copyright violation, but thought it would be best to notify you (in case you somehow did give permission). FunkMonk (talk) 02:39, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Hi FunkMonk, thanks for letting me know. The irony is that I'd have been happy to release that particular illustration under Creative Commons, if asked. Should I wait for that one to be deleted, then upload a version from my WC account? -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 23:30, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Hmmm, that's a good question... Maybe you can just state on the talk page of the image that you agree with the licence and remove the deletion tag... Or you can upload it yourself, and then I'll tag that image as a duplicate... In the last case, there will be no doubt you agreed. FunkMonk (talk) 01:35, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, I went ahead and uploaded it myself with the correct caption and etc. Not sure what to do about the copyright vandal, but from the look of his talk page at Commons, it looks like some sort of community action might be in order... in any case, I'll replace the image in the Sciurumimus article. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Cool, I've now deleted the "duplicate". That guy keeps coming back with new accounts, so it's almost pointless to block one account. On Misplaced Pages alone, he has all these blocked aliases: FunkMonk (talk) 22:48, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, I went ahead and uploaded it myself with the correct caption and etc. Not sure what to do about the copyright vandal, but from the look of his talk page at Commons, it looks like some sort of community action might be in order... in any case, I'll replace the image in the Sciurumimus article. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
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Hi, do you have any thoughts about what would be the best approach to addressing the issue on Race and Intelligence, where the RfC is being used to justify misrepresenting the sources? Is it something that should be brought to ArbCom? Surely RfC cannot require the inclusion of material that fails WP:Verifiability, but that certainly seems to be the argument being made. Stonkaments (talk) 17:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
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- @Stonkaments: BTW, the RFC is up now: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#RFC_on_sourcing_in_relation_to_race_and_intelligence I was hoping to get initial input from uninvolved editors, but that ship has sailed. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 23:56, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Stonkaments: Given that the RFC I attempted was a failure, you might reconsider requesting arbitration if you still want to do that (though I am not sure that would be helpful either, you’re welcomed to try). If you do, you might want to first discuss the matter with DGG, as he may have some advice about what issues a potential arbitration request should try to address. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 19:20, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, I think I'll wait for the current discussion to resolve and then consult with DGG to see what would be best. Thank you for your effort and contributions—it's disheartening that the discussion got hijacked and derailed immediately. Stonkaments (talk) 22:34, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Stonkaments: If you think that the current RFC is inappropriate (as you said in your comment here), and if you also plan to request arbitration, it may be best to request it sooner rather than later. I don't see the benefit in waiting for an inappropriate discussion reach a conclusion, and in waiting for whatever further changes to the articles it will produce. I think ArbCom will consider themselves bound by the result of that discussion regardless of what process was used to reach it. But if DGG decides he thinks it's best to wait, I'll defer to his judgment. --AndewNguyen (talk) 13:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, sure. I've reached out him here. Stonkaments (talk) 15:04, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Stonkaments: If you think that the current RFC is inappropriate (as you said in your comment here), and if you also plan to request arbitration, it may be best to request it sooner rather than later. I don't see the benefit in waiting for an inappropriate discussion reach a conclusion, and in waiting for whatever further changes to the articles it will produce. I think ArbCom will consider themselves bound by the result of that discussion regardless of what process was used to reach it. But if DGG decides he thinks it's best to wait, I'll defer to his judgment. --AndewNguyen (talk) 13:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, I think I'll wait for the current discussion to resolve and then consult with DGG to see what would be best. Thank you for your effort and contributions—it's disheartening that the discussion got hijacked and derailed immediately. Stonkaments (talk) 22:34, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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I noticed your work on polygenic risk scores. Nice work. There's a draft article for a polygenic risk score analysis website that you perhaps would be interested in taking a look at? It could use some expert eyes
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I have seen your good comments here. I have looked at some history and discovered that some editors persistently remove views they don't like, though there are many studies / secondary source from mainstream publications supporting them. These people seems to have unlimited time of editing here and Misplaced Pages has to be in their way. Does Misplaced Pages work like this? --203.186.250.135 (talk) 15:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'm glad that the list of secondary sources I posted in the earlier discussion was useful to you, but I don't think making that article consistent with the majority of recent secondary sources will be an easy task in the current editing environment. Unfortunately, yeah--Misplaced Pages does seem to work like that. Good luck to you if you want to take a crack at improving the article. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 23:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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