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This has been open for a couple of months now, partly because of a long wait for a foundation legal opinion, but discussion has pretty much stopped and this needs closing. I started it so am involved and Moonriddengirl was involved in her WMF role so can't close either. I'd hope to be able to find a image copyright admin to talk a look but a post to ] has yielded no responses so bringing here. ] (]) 16:45, 15 March 2012 (UTC)


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*Discussion was archived at ]. ] <sup><font color="#E3A857">]</font></sup><sub><font color="#008000">]</font></sub> 10:01, 31 March 2012 (UTC)


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RfC on merge, please assist in closing. Thanks. ] (]) 14:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


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Would someone be so kind as to close out this RFC? ] (]) 09:57, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


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Could someone close this RfC? It's rather malformed, being put on the main noticeboard, instead of the talkpage, and seems to have fairly clear consensus. ] (]) 05:02, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
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The proposal is standing for a couple of years already.] (]) 18:11, 28 April 2012 (UTC)


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Does not appear to be anywhere near a close result - but would an unilvlved admin kindly close it? 3 appear to consider the Tea Party to be properly mentioned (even if it is not deemed Radical Right) while 11 deem it improperly in the article. Thanks. ] (]) 18:45, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
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This was an RfC to decide whether there's consensus to add the subject's surname to the article, against his wishes (it was his ] and he rejects it). The RfC closed after 30 days. TuckerResearch concluded that around 22 users (who were not single-purpose accounts) wanted to add the name, and 14 wanted to omit. Further discussion ]. Many thanks, ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 06:30, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


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{{initiated|17:11, 13 December 2024 (UTC)}} challenge of close at AN was archived ''']''' - 05:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
An unclosed deletion review.—] <small>]/]</small> 14:29, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
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A proposed basis of closure was made by a neutral third party on 30 April . This was accepted by TPH . Since then there has been no objection and only a few minor edits to the project. The whole project is more than two months old and I would say that all the key points have been made. ] (]) 15:58, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
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In my opinion there are consensus among uninvolved admins on some kind of short term sanction either block for a week or one one month topic ban.--] (]) 16:50, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
{{initiated|22:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)}} Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. ] (]) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)


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{{Initiated|11:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)}} Participation/discussion has mostly stopped & is unlikely to pick back up again. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Would an admin close and summarize ]? Thanks, ] (]) 00:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
:{{a note}} This is a ] and subject to ]. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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{{Initiated|19:01, 6 November 2024 (UTC)}} RfC expired on 6 December 2024 . No new comments in over a week. ] (]) 15:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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{{initiated|22:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)}} Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Can we please get an interdependent close. '']''<sup>]</sup> 23:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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{{initiated|15:41, 2 December 2024 (UTC)|done=yes}} The last comment on this was on 24 December 2024 and Legobot has removed the RFC tag. An independent closer (preferably an admin) would be welcome. Many thanks - ] (]) 15:57, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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*{{done}} Best, ] (]) 16:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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{{initiated|25 September 2024}} Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

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{{initiated|11:32, 16 October 2024 (UTC)}} Experienced closer requested. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 13:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

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{{initiated|29 October 2024}} There are voices on both sides (ie it is not uncontroversial) so a non-involved editor is needed to evaluate consensus and close this. Thanks. ]] 09:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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{{initiated|7 November 2024}} Looking for uninvolved close in CTOP please, only a few !votes in past month. I realise this doesn't require closing, but it is preferred in such case due to controversial nature of topic. ] (]) 10:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

* {{a note}} I'm happy to perform the merge if required, as have summarised other sections of this article already with consensus. I realise it's usually expected to perform splits or merges when closing discussions, but in this case it wouldn't be needed. ] (]) 20:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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{{initiated|11:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)}} Discussion seems to have stopped. As the proposal is not uncontroversial, and I, as the initiator, am involved, I am requesting an uninvolved editor to close the discussion. ] (] • ]) 11:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

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