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I already removed it from the KCPT page, realizing that taking a photo of the building myself would be better than using someone else's photos whether it is considered fair use or not. Plus, that photo was of the backside of the building and not the front (a view of the front would be better). Therefore, feel free to remove that photo from this site. It will not be used. --CastleBuff


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Hi, I don't know why you deleted my file. If you go to the URL provided, it clearly says at the footnote at the bottom, "Our website consists only free public domain photos." That is not any reason to delete. ] (]) 19:53, 12 May 2012 (UTC)


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: I have to admit I overlooked that note. However, looking more closely at the site now, it appears this is a photo-hosting site with contributions by anonymous uploaders, with little or no editorial oversight and no guarantee that any copyright claims on individual photos are reliable . The "public domain" note you cited is also self-contradictory, because it goes on to say "if you intend to use an image you find here for commercial use, be aware that standards for such use are higher" – if that is the case, then it isn't public domain. This image is credited to "Rachel Worth / WENN (via Newscom)". W.E.N.N (http://www.wenn.com) is a commercial photo site, and I see no reason to think the upload on galsh is authorized by them. ] ] 20:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
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: Sorry to see you've been out of luck so far with pictures of this lady. ] didn't work because the Flickr source, , was marked "non-commercial only", which means it's not considered fully free according to our criteria. The newest one, ], doesn't work either, though it's again not your fault. The source website does make a "public domain" claim about it, but I have explained on ] why I think that claim is dubious. ] ] 17:04, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

is I checked the IP range and it's him or her. ] (]) 17:57, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

== Non-free Amazing Race photos ==

I will gladly replace them with free photos if I could find suitable alternatives. I cannot find any free photos of the cave visited in ], with photos of ] being the only place with free photos out there, and the only location with a free photo I can find for the ] episode is ] which in itself has nothing to do with the events (there is a particular fountain visited, but there are no free photos of that either). What are your suggestions?—] (]) 08:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

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Good block, ''but indef?!'' ] (]) 19:45, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

: A clearly expressed, deliberate agenda of subverting copyright policy, systematically and repeatedly using lies to sneak in images they perfectly knew were inappropriate. I have no reasons to expect that this attitude will have changed in 48 hours, a week, a month or a year. Of course, as the saying goes, "indefinite is not infinite". I'd consider lifting it if they commit to never upload images again (here or on Commons). ] ] 19:48, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

:: I have to agree with Bearian. The penalty seems pretty extreme, especially for someone who is a regular editor. I've seen people commit far more violations and be profoundly uncivil, and not get an indefinite block. I've worked with Debbie on a few articles, and she seemed perfectly willing to work with people who disagreed with her. ] (]) 00:19, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
::: This block has nothing to do with being uncivil or with how she behaves in disputes. ] ] 05:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

== Re ] ==

I was the agent who processed the request.

My initial reaction was that the photo looked too good. However, when I saw the claim that the uploader was an art student, I considered the possibility that an art student might have the technical skills, especially if being tutored an expert, to take such a good photo.

I did not notice the copyright tag you observed. I should have, but I didn't. In my opinion, this does not conclusively prove the claim is false, but it does change the burden of proof.

I note that the image is for sale; it seems hard to believe that Lessing would be willing to sell an object he does not own. This makes it more likely that the permission is invalid, and even introduces the unlikely , but possible scenario in which the uploader is correct in asserting that the uploader is the photographer, but may have missed that rights were signed away at some time.

I have an email out to the uploader, who has not yet responded, even to reply that attempts to confirm are in progress. My original thought was to wait some time, then send an email directly to Lessing. I'm now inclined to repeal the permission, and ask for removal of the image, and put the burden of proof back on the uploader. WE can always restore if Lessing supports the claim. Would you concur?--]] 20:21, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:Shouldn't it at least be changed from {{tl|PermissionOTRS}} to {{tl|OTRS received}} for the moment? --] (]) 23:47, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:: That sounds like a reasonable way to proceed. Mark the OTRS as insufficient, and then just delete per the PUF. ] ] 06:48, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
::: I changed to {{tl|OTRS received}}. I added my comments to the PUF discussion. I would prefer that someone else do the deletion.--]] 12:14, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

== my deleted entry ] ==

With all my respect i have to tell you that i am a journalist in turkey.All of my information was true.The subject is a criminal person so what can i write about him ] (]) 21:31, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

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Dear administrator,i noticed all of your advices and wiki policy .İ know all of the criminal judgements records about this prson .And all of them are trustable resources which collected by myself.As your advice i will edit the new sources when i can reach in time.Thank you for your interest and attention] (]) 22:26, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

: No. You don't get to first recreate the unsourced article and then later add some sources when you find the time. BLP violations cannot be tolerated in an article, not even for half a day. Please get those sources first, only then recreate the article. You also need to be more careful about making sure the sources you do cite actually support your claims. Of the two sources you used in your latest attempt, one didn't even mention the person in question at all, and the other only said he was among some suspects who were detained temporarily in an investigation but he was released immediately after. This third source that you had cited in the previous version didn't mention him either. Using sources in this way is really unacceptable. ] ] 09:58, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

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Hello, I recently uploaded ] and ] and now I see that you've deleted them because of "improper license". I believe the license to be suitable for Misplaced Pages as it gives permission "to copy, distribute, transmit and adapt the work" and this author has tens of photos on Misplaced Pages and Wikimedia Commons and are using exactly the same license. ] (]) 11:44, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

: Unfortunately, no. A cc-nc license is not considered fully free for our purposes. The items currently on Commons, such as ], were apparently originally released on Flickr under a proper free license (cc-by-sa), and were confirmed to have been under that license at the time when they were uploaded to Commons. The Flickr user seems to have changed the license on Flickr to the nc version at a later date, or in some cases removed the image, which is their right to do, but it doesn't affect our prior uploads. However, now that his Flickr images are cc-nc, we can't make any new uploads (except if we could prove that these too were originally released under cc-by-sa, but I don't see how you could do that.) ] ] 11:53, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

== Ali Kalkan article ==

Dear administrator,i have all of the sources about this people but they are all court records and in turkish i wnted time to just get them translated to english.Your behaviour is not heartening for the new users of wikipedia.can you explain please are the sources enough in this article like (]) i couldn t understand the policy maybe so i will be very sorry about it and i will be grateful if you explain this if you can spent a little time for me.Best wishes and thanks] (]) 21:39, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

: The ] article is also problematic, but at least there is one source and all the major points of the article appear to be more or less covered in it. It's not a good model to follow though. What you need is high-quality, published reliable sources, for every substantial point made in the article. It's not a problem if they are in Turkish, but they have to be published ones. ] ] 21:55, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

:Thank you it became a persistence for me to write this article :)) i will write but i wish and pray for you to not delete it again.with all my respect to your attention♥] (]) 00:26, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

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{{Resolved|1=JamesBWatson corrected me and I completely mixed up an undo and a rollback revert and how they look. It was my goof and my fault and I will remove that part of my post to User:Yworo. Consider this post moot. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 12:08, 19 May 2012 (UTC)</small>}}
I have a couple concerns about this editor and I was wondering if you could address them. First off, by ] was reverted and a template on Mlaffs' talk page. This wouldn't be a problem if User:Yworo didn't use Rollback to revert Mlaffs edit. It wasn't vandalism. I checked User:Yworo's contribs and found several examples of him/her using Rollback inappropriately (, , which included a , same user another , with ). Those are just going back to March, there are probably more. Those are clear violations of the Rollback rules and misuse of vandalism templates. I would request his Rollback be revoked until he can learn to use the tool properly (one mistake is one too many), but that is your decision. I do feel that someone needs to talk with him. I have left a post on his talk page, but coming from an admin, it will carry more weight. Thanks. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 11:24, 19 May 2012 (UTC)</small>

: I have to say that at first sight I see more wrong with your postings than with his:
:* I can see you posted to Yworo's talk page about your concerns, but why did you then not wait for him to respond, before you went to complain to several administrators? That's hardly good style.
:* You also failed to notify him of these complaints. That's even more un-nice.
:* I find your tone in telling him to remove the notice from his talkpage inappropriate. Why do you think you are in a position to order him around, using a bare imperative? I also don't agree the box in question is a personal attack in the first place. It's a rather uncommon thing, and some people certainly would have concerns about whether it is in accordance with policy, but it's certainly not a personal attack against anyone.
:* Some of your charges about Yworo mislabeling things as vandalism and misusing rollback are false. For instance, in ] is not a rollback but an undo, and it gives a good-faith reason in the edit summary. Same goes for on ], and for on ]. I'm not saying his warnings have necessarily all been ideal, but I certainly cannot see a pattern of rollback abuse here. What I do see is a whole heap of needlessly aggressive and domineering behaviour from you. ] ] 11:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

::Let me answer these in order...

::*I am not what you would call a patient person. But more importantly, the more I dug, the problems I found, the more I thought an admin handling things was the way to go.
::*The tone could have been brought down a little, you are right. But as someone who has been here awhile, having to tell another user (who has been here just under 3 years) all I told him, I was a little pissed.
::*Regardless, it is still a misuse of warning templates. I do still believe that having to tell a seasoned editor not to warn someone for a minor spelling goof, to check for proper reliable sources, to check for original research in those sources, to check for verifibility, etc. is something I shouldn't have to do with someone who has been an editor for almost 3 years. My behavior is documented, but we are talking about Yworo, not me (we can do that later, if you like). - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 12:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)</small>
:::I have an apology for the accusation of User:Yworo misusing his Rollback feature. I have also the accusation from his talk page with an edit summary apology as well. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 12:16, 19 May 2012 (UTC)</small>
:::: Okay, thank you, appreciated. ] ] 12:18, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

:::::In point of fact, I've been here seven and half years and have <s>somewhere over 55,000</s> made over 63,000 edits. I don't agree with the "Don't template the regulars" '''''essay''''' and it is not required that I do. If third-parties want to get bent out of shape about it, I suggest they need a Wikibreak. I also suggest that they take the time to look at an editor's ''user page'', not just their talk page, before going off on them. ] (]) 14:09, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

:::::: Have you had another account? Your status with this account is "reviewer, rollbacker, 37173 edits since: 2009-06-01" -- ] (]) 16:15, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

:::::::I edited from a static IP belonging to a former employer starting in October 2004, only creating an account when I left that position. ] (]) 16:25, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

:::::::: Fine. Carry on and good luck. -- ] (]) 17:06, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

::::::::: Thanks. ] (]) 17:10, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


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:::::P.S. Neutralhomer might want to consider that his posts to my talk page were much more offensive and disruptive than any templating of a regular could ever be. In practice, I find that few regulars are actually offended by templates, provided one skips level 1 with the "Welcome to Misplaced Pages" message, and that those that ''are'' offended by them would be equally offended by a custom-crafted note. That is, those that are offended by a mild template are hotheads who get offended at the drop of a hat. I don't really see the point of being offended ''on behalf of another editor who has taken no offense themselves!'' ] (]) 15:25, 19 May 2012 (UTC)


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: Thanks, but I guess it's enough to get them reverted promptly – if they then start revert-warring it back in, there should be enough admin eyeballs on that page to push the block button eventually, right? It doesn't have to be always me. That person is a pest (I suppose you're familiar with their ]?), thanks for helping deal with them. ] ] 23:00, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
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: Thanks for the heads-up. The IP activities were from a known, rather persistent sockpuppeter; I forget what name we have been using to file the socks under. The pseudo-etymologies from "Zeus" and "bekos" have been one of his obsessions for a long time. They are utter nonsense, of course. ] ] 18:37, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::Μπορώ να ρωτήσω κάτι; Με ποιο δικαίωμα χρίζεις τον εαυτό σου αρμόδιο να μπορεί να κρίνει πότε χρειάζεται μια pseydo-etymology σε ένα άρθρο και πότε όχι, όταν από ολόκληρες κοινωνίες θεωρείται η σωστότερη και έτσι γνωρίζεται; Όλοι ξέρουν το συγκεκριμένο είδος από την ''pseydo-etymology'' που αφαίρεσες. Και σε υπόλοιπα άρθρα υπάρχει pseydo-etymology --] (]) 23:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::: I haven't seen any evidence that this particular pseudo-etymology is widely believed, let alone by whole "societies". So far it has only been a single crackpot sockpuppeter on Misplaced Pages that's been pushing it, and for all I know he may very well have thought it up himself. But even if it was a widely available meme, what matters to us is not whether some people out there believe it, but whether reliable sources discuss it. Show me one good, reliable source (i.e. one whose author is a competent writer on etymology/linguistics, not just on dances) that discusses this idea – even if it's only mentioning it in order to disprove it – and we can include something about it. ] ] 14:26, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


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If I come across one of their additions to RSN would it be helpful if I pinged you? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 20:50, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, but I guess it's enough to get them reverted promptly – if they then start revert-warring it back in, there should be enough admin eyeballs on that page to push the block button eventually, right? It doesn't have to be always me. That person is a pest (I suppose you're familiar with their LTA entry?), thanks for helping deal with them. Fut.Perf. ☼ 23:00, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
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