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==Sockpuppet allegations== |
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For those who have been following the debate, the findings of the investigation at ] are as follows: |
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:''* Licinius (talk • contribs), The man from OZ (talk • contribs), and J is Me (talk • contribs) <br> appear likely to be the same person. |
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:''* There is inconclusive evidence that Jimididit (talk • contribs) <br> and NSWelshman (talk • contribs) may be related. |
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:''* There is no evidence to suggest that these two groups of users are the same person. |
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:''The Uninvited Co., Inc. 14:28, 25 March 2006 (UTC) |
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I will let that speak for itself. ] | ] 15:35, 27 March 2006 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2024 == |
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Thank you for presenting the facts as they are as opposed to interpreting that information for everyone as someone else already has today. I've asked The Uninvited what inconclusive evidence he has to suggest I have any relationship to jimididit. If he comes back with anything I will also present that, as is and without interpretation. ] 16:07, 27 March 2006 (UTC) |
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I am jimididit ] 14:16, 28 March 2006 (UTC) |
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Ancient China subsection of Early history has some possible prose/spelling improvements. Replace first two sentences with: "The Chinese competitive game ''cuju'' is an early example of a football game. It was possibly played around the Han dynasty and early Qin dynasty, based on an attestation in a military manual from around the second to third centuries BC." Third sentence typo "passsing" -> "passing" ] (]) 01:28, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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==The number of english language Fifa affiliates using football== |
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: {{done}} ] (]) 09:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Ok, I don't really want to get into this too much, but basically when I was reading that section it hit me that the Marshall Islands is not a FIFA affiliate (a quick check confirmed this). Anyway another user alerted me to the original discussion where this info came from (]), and so another quick check (against ) showed that Kiribati and Micronesia also aren't, so that's why I've changed it to 45. Also mentioned that the Samoan Federation has a stupid official name which uses both (Samoa Football (Soccer) Federation) - though I didn't actually use the word stupid for ] purposes. Hope this isn't contentious. ] 00:36, 19 March 2006 (UTC) |
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==Touch rugby== |
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To avert an edit war, the recent edits are incorrect. See the long and messy discussion at ]. Basically the code that people in Europe usually mean when they refer to "touch rugby" ''is'' the code that Australians call "Touch" or "touch football". Unlike Australians, Europeans generally refer to both union and league simply as "rugby". There are different versions of touch rugby and the Australian-invented Touch is the most popular form worldwide. ] | ] 13:11, 25 March 2006 (UTC) |
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== Adding women's team pictures to the article == |
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== Addition of "Universal Rules" == |
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The article suggests that black male football is the default, even though in today's football culture women are also prominent. It would be nice to work towards a less biased representation. ] (]) 08:39, 20 June 2024 (UTC) |
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I add this in process of Misplaced Pages. I have added the code that was an attempt to unite Australia's two forms of football, Rugby League and Australian Rules. It seems incredible but there is a link to respected Rugby historian Sean Fagan's homepage who researched it. ] 13:27, 1 April 2006 (UTC) |
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== "]" listed at ] == |
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== Oldest football club == |
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The redirect <span class="plainlinks"></span> has been listed at ] to determine whether its use and function meets the ]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 28#Men's football}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> ‑‑] (] <b>·</b> ] <b>·</b> ]) 20:59, 28 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Under "Other developments in the 1850s", we have the claim that Dublin University Football Club is the oldest club, being founded in 1854. However, under "The establishment of modern codes of football", we see the claim that Guy's Hospital Football Club was founded in London in 1843. It would appear that the latter can claim to be the oldest club - unless some knows different? ] 13:37, 7 April 2006 (UTC) |
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:According to most rugby books Guy's is the oldest. However the ] article states that Dublin University is the oldest documented club i.e. Guy's say they were founded in 1843 but there aren't very many documents that prove this, nor is it clear that Guy's were always in existance. They might have started up, folded and got going again.] 14:09, 7 April 2006 (UTC) |
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::See ]: it would be correct to say that Guy's was the ''first'' documented and Dublin Uni is the ''oldest'' documented club. ] | ] 03:52, 23 April 2006 (UTC) |
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== Master rules == |
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Added ] rules to Irish and Australian varieties of football as it has sufficient points of difference, and is widely enough spread to qualify as its own variety. Differences include, but are not limited to; no shirtfronts, no slinging in tackles, no `riding` from behind in marking contests, marked jumpers for older players designating `no tackling`, etc. --] 16:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC) |
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==Derivation of the word football== |
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"...there is a rival explanation, which has it that football originally referred to a variety of games in medieval Europe, which were played on foot." |
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Can someone please provide a valid reference for this? The one provided doesn't work. To me that explanation sounds like a rugby or American football fan trying to justify their use of the term football, not a valid history of the word. Otherwise why don't lacrosse, hockey and numerous other ball games played on foot include the word football?] 12:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC) |
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They use hands in soccer don't they. The first rules of soccer had marks and all forms of football have had different degrees of handling. As for Rugby, every play starts with a foot to the ball. 11:32, 27 April 2006 (UTC) |
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:I have changed the reference. Accepting that explanation, the sport which became the various versions of football would have been called football before lacrosse, hockey, etc existed as distinct sports, by which time the name was used in a more specific manner. ] (]) 15:52, 26 April 2006 (UTC) |
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Ancient China subsection of Early history has some possible prose/spelling improvements. Replace first two sentences with: "The Chinese competitive game cuju is an early example of a football game. It was possibly played around the Han dynasty and early Qin dynasty, based on an attestation in a military manual from around the second to third centuries BC." Third sentence typo "passsing" -> "passing" 104.232.119.107 (talk) 01:28, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
The article suggests that black male football is the default, even though in today's football culture women are also prominent. It would be nice to work towards a less biased representation. 91.26.10.99 (talk) 08:39, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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The redirect Men's football has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 28 § Men's football until a consensus is reached. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 20:59, 28 July 2024 (UTC)