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<section begin=Instructions/>Use the '''closure requests noticeboard''' to ask an uninvolved editor to ]. Do so when ] appears unclear, it is a contentious issue, or where there are wiki-wide implications (e.g. any change to our ]).
== Thank you to closing admins ==
Thank you, {{user|Beeblebrox}}, {{user|The Blade of the Northern Lights}}, {{user|Drmies}}, and other admins for your considered closures of the RfCs mentioned on this board. I am deeply grateful for your help in assessing the consensuses in these discussions. Thank you, {{user|Armbrust}}, for keeping this board cleared of fulfilled requests. ] (]) 01:00, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
:Thank you, {{user|ThaddeusB}}, {{user|Armbrust}}, and other closers for your thoughtful closures. ] (]) 06:25, 11 August 2012 (UTC)</noinclude>


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Would an admin assess the consensus at ]? Initiated 27 May 2012, the discussion was listed and archived from ]. Thanks, ] (]) 23:43, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
:The RfC was initiated by an arbitrator. I am not sure that the ArbCom intends it to be closed by a random administrator. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 18:59, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
::I have asked Arbitrator {{user|SilkTork}} to take a look. ] (]) 19:11, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
:::The Committee are in discussion on the matter, but the RfC was not an ArbCom initiative, it was started by a Committee member, but acting as a community member, as was made clear by one of the clerks - ]; as such any uninvolved admin may close the RfC with a summary of the discussion that the Committee will take on board. I took part in the discussion, so it would be inappropriate for me to close it. ''']''' ''']''' 19:46, 7 July 2012 (UTC)


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Would an admin assess the consensus at the at ] (see the subsection at ])? Thanks, ] (]) 00:08, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


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Would an admin assess the consensus at the at ] and ] (initiated 25 June 2012)? Thanks, ] (]) 00:15, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


Include a link to the discussion itself and the {{tl|Initiated}} template at the beginning of the request. A ] can make listing easier. Move discussions go in the 'other types' section.
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Would an admin assess the consensus at the RfC at ] (initiated 29 June 2012)? Thanks, ] (]) 01:00, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
:Now archived at ]. ] <sup><font color="#E3A857">]</font></sup><sub> <font color="#008000">]</font></sub> 07:04, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
::Now un-archived. Please close the discussion. Could someone determine if by another user forced the archiving of an RfC awaiting a close? ] (]) 09:41, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Yes, that edit has made the bot archive the section. ] <sup><font color="#E3A857">]</font></sup><sub> <font color="#008000">]</font></sub> 09:48, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Note that the RFC Bot had removed the RFC notice automatically, as RFC's expire automatically at 30 days of age. This occurred PRIOR to my edit. ] (]) 16:20, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
:::::I will place a Do Not Archive template on that thread to prevent it from rearchiving prior to admin closure. ] (]) 18:17, 10 August 2012 (UTC)


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'''Any ] may close most discussions, so long as they are prepared to discuss and justify their closing rationale.'''
At ], {{user|David1217}} wrote that "Closure is no longer necessary. A VPM discussion closed as (rough) support for enabling ReferenceTooltips by default, and the relevant MediaWiki gadgets page has been modified to make the tooltips default." I cannot find the VPM discussion that was closed with rough support for enabling Reference Tooltips by default. Would David1217 or another user who knows the location of the discussion close ] with a pointer to the VPM discussion to provide documentation? Thanks, ] (]) 01:00, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
:The VPM discussion is already archived at ]. ] <sup><font color="#E3A857">]</font></sup><sub> <font color="#008000">]</font></sub> 07:25, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
::Thank you for the link, Armbrust, but I don't see how the discussion was "", as stated by {{user|David1217}}. ] (]) 00:35, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Well I don't know, but Reference Tooltips were enabled as defeault, as I have to opt-out. ] <sup><font color="#E3A857">]</font></sup><sub> <font color="#008000">]</font></sub> 05:57, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay. Would someone summarize the discussion's consensus for documentation purposes and link to any Bugzilla request (if there is any) that implemented Reference Tooltips? ] (]) 00:58, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


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Would an admin summarize the consensus at ] (initiated 25 June 2012)? I have a new RfC tag at ] (initiated 30 July 2012) to attract more participants. The RfC was closed by {{user|RoyBoy}} at ] as having consensus to add "primarily" to the lead, but the close was contested by {{user|Parent5446}} who advanced a new proposal at ]. Does the first discussion have consensus to implement RoyBoy's change, or should the RfC closure be delayed until there has been a 30-day discussion of the new proposal? I will let the closing admin decide. ] (]) 01:00, 31 July 2012 (UTC)


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The discussion at ] has been at times contentious, with users contesting closer {{user|John}}'s neutrality. Would a completely uninvolved admin assess the consensus at ], taking into account by {{user|John}} and by {{user|Dennis Brown}}, two admins who were asked to review the discussion? ] (]) 01:00, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Please append {{tlx|Doing}} to the discussion's entry you are closing so that no one duplicates your effort. When finished, replace it with {{tlx|Close}} or {{tlx|Done}} and an optional note, and consider sending a {{tlx|Ping}} to the editor who placed the request. Where a formal closure is not needed, reply with {{tlx|Not done}}. '''After addressing a request, please mark the {{tlx|Initiated}} template with {{para|done|yes}}.''' ] will ] requests marked with {{tlx|Already done}}, {{tlx|Close}}, {{tlx|Done}} {{tlx|Not done}}, and {{tlx|Resolved}}.
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{{Initiated|done=yes|06:51, 7 May 2023 (UTC)}} Apart from two indiffed editors in the discussion, it looks like this RfC was unanimous. Worth closing out. - ] (]) 03:37, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Would an admin assess the consensus at ] (initiated 13 July 2012)? The last comment was on 4 August 2012. Thanks, ] (]) 06:25, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
:The editors were blocked for unrelated reasons that weren't socking nor spamming. I would not exclude them; we should weigh the course of the arguments instead. Definitely needs a close, though. ] (]) 17:47, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{Done}} with the close, sorry for taking so long to mark this; I had a sudden bout of internet issues. I'll be finishing the deprecated sources procedure soon. ] (]) 18:44, 12 January 2025 (UTC)


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{{initiated|22:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)}} Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. ] (]) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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{{Initiated|11:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)}} Participation/discussion has mostly stopped & is unlikely to pick back up again. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
A non-involved neutral admin is needed to assess the consensus for these two discussions. ] discussion has been open for more than a week and made need to be closed soon but some allegations of cavassing have been raised by a user. The Mullans AfD article is in need of some assessment of its consensus as well. ] (]) 12:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
:{{a note}} This is a ] and subject to ]. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
:Note to admin - the canvassing allegations have been resolved as there was a misunderstanding by the accuser which has now been cleared up. The user above mustn't be aware of this. It may be necessary that ARBCOM action is required as the situation regarding Eurovision-related material being nominated for deletion is causing much confusion between the nominators and project members of ]. <b style="background:black">] ]</b> 12:24, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
:'''] ''''']'''''&thinsp;,&nbsp;]&nbsp;]&nbsp;<small>22:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)</small>
::Also I just have to say that Bleubeatle is grasping for Straws here by using a false/resolved accusation of canvassing to try to influence an AfD. Peace.--] (]) 12:29, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

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{{Initiated|19:01, 6 November 2024 (UTC)}} RfC expired on 6 December 2024 . No new comments in over a week. ] (]) 15:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

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{{Initiated|16:43, 15 November 2024 (UTC)}}
Clear consensus that the proposed edit (and its amended version) violate ]. However, the owning editor is engaging in ] behavior, repeatedly arguing against the consensus and dismissing others' rationale as not fitting his personal definition of synthesis; and is persistently assuming bad-faith, including . When finally challenged to give a direct quote from the source that supports the proposed edit, it was dismissed with "" and then The discussion is being driven into a ground by an editor who does not (nor wish to) understand consensus and can't be ] with any opposing argument supported by Misplaced Pages policy or guidelines. --] (]) 22:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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{{initiated|22:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)}} Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Can we please get an interdependent close. '']''<sup>]</sup> 23:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{a note}} Ongoing discussion, please wait a week or two. ] (]) 14:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

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{{Initiated| 08:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)}} Participation mostly slowed, should have an independent close. ] (]) 10:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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{{initiated|25 September 2024}} Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

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{{initiated|29 October 2024}} There are voices on both sides (ie it is not uncontroversial) so a non-involved editor is needed to evaluate consensus and close this. Thanks. ]] 09:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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{{initiated|7 November 2024}} Looking for uninvolved close in CTOP please, only a few !votes in past month. I realise this doesn't require closing, but it is preferred in such case due to controversial nature of topic. ] (]) 10:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

* {{a note}} I'm happy to perform the merge if required, as have summarised other sections of this article already with consensus. I realise it's usually expected to perform splits or merges when closing discussions, but in this case it wouldn't be needed. ] (]) 20:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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{{initiated|11:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)|done=y}} Discussion seems to have stopped. As the proposal is not uncontroversial, and I, as the initiator, am involved, I am requesting an uninvolved editor to close the discussion. ] (] • ]) 11:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}} ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 13:38, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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{{initiated|23:40, 27 December 2024 (UTC)}} Proposed merge discussion originally opened on 30 May 2024, closed on 27 October 2024, and reopened on 27 December 2024 following the closure being overturned at AN. ] (]/]) 00:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

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    (Initiated 616 days ago on 7 May 2023) Apart from two indiffed editors in the discussion, it looks like this RfC was unanimous. Worth closing out. - Amigao (talk) 03:37, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

    The editors were blocked for unrelated reasons that weren't socking nor spamming. I would not exclude them; we should weigh the course of the arguments instead. Definitely needs a close, though. Aaron Liu (talk) 17:47, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
     Done with the close, sorry for taking so long to mark this; I had a sudden bout of internet issues. I'll be finishing the deprecated sources procedure soon. Aaron Liu (talk) 18:44, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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    (Initiated 97 days ago on 7 October 2024) Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. Aaron Liu (talk) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 459#RFC_Jerusalem_Post

    (Initiated 76 days ago on 28 October 2024) Participation/discussion has mostly stopped & is unlikely to pick back up again. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

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    Archived. P.I. Ellsworth , ed.  22:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

    Talk:Genocide#RfC: History section, adding native American and Australian genocides as examples

    (Initiated 67 days ago on 6 November 2024) RfC expired on 6 December 2024 . No new comments in over a week. Bogazicili (talk) 15:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

    Talk:Team Seas#Re: the ocean pollution additions

    (Initiated 58 days ago on 15 November 2024) Clear consensus that the proposed edit (and its amended version) violate WP:SYNTH. However, the owning editor is engaging in sealioning behavior, repeatedly arguing against the consensus and dismissing others' rationale as not fitting his personal definition of synthesis; and is persistently assuming bad-faith, including opening an ANI accusing another editor of WP:STONEWALLING. When finally challenged to give a direct quote from the source that supports the proposed edit, it was dismissed with "I provided the source, read it yourself" and then further accused that editor with bad-faith. The discussion is being driven into a ground by an editor who does not (nor wish to) understand consensus and can't be satisfied with any opposing argument supported by Misplaced Pages policy or guidelines. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 22:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

    Talk:Israel#RfC

    (Initiated 51 days ago on 22 November 2024) Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Can we please get an interdependent close. TarnishedPath 23:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

    information Note: Ongoing discussion, please wait a week or two. Bogazicili (talk) 14:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

    Talk:Wicked (2024 film)#RfC on whether credited name or common name should be used

    (Initiated 32 days ago on 11 December 2024) Participation mostly slowed, should have an independent close. Happily888 (talk) 10:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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    Deletion discussions

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    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 20#Category:Belarusian saints

    (Initiated 23 days ago on 20 December 2024) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 31#Category:Disambig-Class Star Trek pages

    (Initiated 12 days ago on 31 December 2024) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:54, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 1#Category:Category-Class 20th Century Studios pages of NA-importance

    (Initiated 11 days ago on 1 January 2025) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:50, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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    Other types of closing requests

    Talk:Arab migrations to the Levant#Merger Proposal

    (Initiated 109 days ago on 25 September 2024) Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. Andre🚐 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

    Talk:Winter fuel payment abolition backlash#Merge proposal

    (Initiated 75 days ago on 29 October 2024) There are voices on both sides (ie it is not uncontroversial) so a non-involved editor is needed to evaluate consensus and close this. Thanks. PamD 09:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

    Talk:Israel–Hamas war#Survey

    (Initiated 66 days ago on 7 November 2024) Looking for uninvolved close in CTOP please, only a few !votes in past month. I realise this doesn't require closing, but it is preferred in such case due to controversial nature of topic. CNC (talk) 10:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

    • information Note: I'm happy to perform the merge if required, as have summarised other sections of this article already with consensus. I realise it's usually expected to perform splits or merges when closing discussions, but in this case it wouldn't be needed. CNC (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

    Talk:Shiv Sena#Merge proposal

    (Initiated 46 days ago on 27 November 2024) Discussion seems to have stopped. As the proposal is not uncontroversial, and I, as the initiator, am involved, I am requesting an uninvolved editor to close the discussion. Arnav Bhate (talkcontribs) 11:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

     Done Seraphimblade 13:38, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

    Talk:You Like It Darker#Proposed merge of Finn (short story) into You Like It Darker

    (Initiated 16 days ago on 27 December 2024) Proposed merge discussion originally opened on 30 May 2024, closed on 27 October 2024, and reopened on 27 December 2024 following the closure being overturned at AN. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

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