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			== ''The Bugle'': Issue 224, December 2024 ==
	== ged ==

	well i am trying to get my ged and need to know what philipians are please help me.....(6/29/11)

	== The Right Stuff: September 2011 ==

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	<div style="font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size:190%; background-color:transparent; border:none; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; ">An Historic Milestone<br /></div>
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	<small>By ]<br><br></small>
	Welcome to the inaugural issue of ''The Right Stuff'', the newsletter of ]. The Project has developed at a breakneck speed since it was created on February 12, 2011 with the edit summary, "Let's roll!" With over 50 members the need for a project newsletter is enormous. With over 3000 articles to watch, an active talk page and numerous critical discussions spread over various noticeboards, it has become increasingly difficult to manage the information overload. The goal of ''The Right Stuff'' is to help you keep up with the changing landscape.

	''The Right Stuff'' is a newsletter consisting of original reporting. Writers will use a ] to "sign" their contributions. Just as with '']'', "guidelines such as ']', and particularly ']', will not necessarily apply."

	WikiProject Conservatism has a bright future ahead: this newsletter will allow us tell the story. All that's left to say is: "Let's roll!"
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	<div style="font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size:190%; background-color:transparent; border:none; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; ">New Style Guide Unveiled<br /></div>
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	<small>By ]<br><br></small>
	A new style guide to help standardize editing was rolled out. It focuses on concepts, people and organizations from a conservatism perspective. The guide features detailed article layouts for several types of articles. You can help improve it ]. The Project's Article Collaboration currently has two nominations, but they don't appear to be generating much interest. You can get involved with the Collaboration ].

	I am pleased to report that we have two new members: ] and ]. Rjensen is a professional historian and has access to ]. Soonersfan168 says he is a "young conservative who desires to improve Misplaced Pages!" Unfortunately we will be seeing less of ], as he has announced his semi-retirement. We wish him well. Be sure to stop by their talk pages and drop off some ].
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	<div style="font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size:190%; background-color:transparent; border:none; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; ">3,000th Article Tagged<br /></div>
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	On August 3rd ], a British journalist, became the Project's 3,000th tagged article. It is a tribute to the membership that we have come this far this quickly. The latest Featured Article is ]. Our congratulations to ] for a job well done. The article with the most page views was ] with 887,389 views, not surprising considering he announced he was running for president on August 11th. Follwing Perry were ] and ]. The Project was ranked 75th based on total edits, which is up from 105th in July. The article with the most edits was ] with 374 edits. An RFC regarding candidate inclusion criteria generated much interest on the talk page.
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	== ''The Right Stuff:'' October 2011 ==

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	<div style="font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size:190%; background-color:transparent; border:none; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; ">An Interview with Dank<br /></div>
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	'''Q: Tell us a little about yourself.'''<br>
	'''A''': I'm Dan, a Wikipedian since 2007, from North Carolina. I started out with an interest in history, robotics, style guidelines, and copyediting. These days, I'm the lead coordinator for the Military History Project and a reviewer of Featured Article Candidates. I've been an administrator and maintained ], a summary of policy changes, since 2008.

	'''Q: What is your experience with WikiProjects?'''<br>
	'''A''': I guess I'm most familiar with ] and ], and I'm trying to get up to speed at ]. I've probably talked with members of most of the wikiprojects at one time or another.

	'''Q: What makes a WikiProject successful?'''<br>
	'''A''': A lot of occasional contributors who think of the project as fun rather than work, a fair number of people willing to write or review articles, a small core of like-minded people who are dedicated to building and maintaining the project, and access to at least a few people who are familiar with reviewing standards and with Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines.

	'''Q: Do you have any tips for increasing membership?'''<br>
	'''A''': Aim for a consistent, helpful and professional image. Let people know what the project is doing and what they could be doing, but don't push.
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	The arbitration request submitted by ] moved into its second month. The case, which evaluates user conduct, arose from contentious discussions regarding the naming of the ] and ] articles, and a related issue pertaining to the inclusion of "death" in the lede of ]. A number of members are involved. On the ] page ] posted a table indicating that ] made the most edits to the Abortion article. DMSBel has announced their semi-retirement. Fact finding regarding individual editor behavior has begun in earnest on the] page.
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	Last month it was ] that due to the success of the new ] the ] would be shut down. ] will remain active. The DRN is primarily intended to resolve content disputes.
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	Was your article deleted in spite of your best efforts to save it? You should consider having a copy ] to the ] where project members can help improve it. Upon meeting content criteria, articles are graduated to mainspace. The Incubator is also ideal for collaborating on new article drafts. ] is the first addition to the incubator. The article was deleted per WP:POLITICIAN.
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	WikiProject Conservatism is expanding. We now have a ]. Any help in categorizing images or in getting the fledgling project off the ground is appreciated.<p>
	We have a few new members who joined the project in September. Please give a hearty welcome to ], ] and ] by showing them some ]. Screwball23 has been on WikiPedia for five years and has made major improvements to ]. Regushee is not one for idle chit chat: an amazing 93% of their edits are in article space.

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	== ''The Right Stuff:'' November 2011 ==

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	On October 7, WikiProject Conservatism was ] by member ]. He based his rationale on what he described as an undefinable scope, stating that the project is "at its root undesirable". Of the 40 participants in the discussion, some agreed that the scope was problematic; however, they felt it did not justify deletion of the project. A number of participants suggested moving the project to "WikiProject American conservatism". The overwhelming sentiment was expressed by ] who wrote: "A project is a group of people. This particular group does great work in their topic area why prevent them from doing this" In the end there was negligible opposition to the project and the result of the discussion was "Keep". The proceedings of the deletion discussion were picked up by '']'', calling the unfolding drama "the first MfD of its kind". ''The Signpost'' observed that attempting to delete an active project was unprecedented. The story itself became a source of controversy which played out at the ] section, and also at the {{Plainlink\|url=http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk%3AJorgenev&action=historysubmit&diff=456469755&oldid=456159509\|name=author's talk page}}.

	Two days after the project was nominated, the ] was also ] as "too US-biased". There was no support for deletion amongst the 10 participants, with one suggestion to rename the portal.
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	In other news, a ] focusing on conservatism has been created at WikiSource. Wikisource is an online library of free content publications with 254,051 accessible texts. One highlight of the portal's content is '']'' by ].
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	October saw a 6.4% increase in new members, bringing the total membership to 58. Seven of the eight new members joined after October 12; the deletion discussions may have played a role in the membership spike. ] is a member of the ]. Stating that he is not a conservative, ] noted his "lifetime interest in British, European and international politics." Let's all make an effort to welcome the new members with an outpouring of ].


	''Click {{Plain link\|{{fullurl:WP:WikiProject Conservatism\|action=watch}}\|here}} to keep up to date on all the happenings at WikiProject Conservatism.''
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	Timeline of conservatism, a Top-importance list, was ] on October 3. The nominator stated that since conservatism in an "ambiguous concept", the timeline suffers from original research. There were a number of "Delete", as well as "Keep" votes. The closing administrator reasoned that consensus dictated that the list be renamed. The current title is ].
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	== ''The Right Stuff:'' January 2012 ==

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	On January 21, ] was promoted to ] due largely to the contributions of Lionelt. This is the first Featured content produced by WikiProject Conservatism. The road to Featured class was rocky. An earlier nomination for FP failed, and in October the portal was "Kept" after being nominated for deletion.

	Member ] significantly contributed to the successful ] nomination of Norwegian journalist and newspaper editor ] in December. Eisfbnore also created the article. In January another Project article was promoted to ]. ], a president of Brazil, attained Featured class with significant effort by ]. The ] saw its first graduation in November. A collaboration spearheaded by ] and ] successfully developed ] to pass the notability guideline.
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	Another ] addressing the project scope began in December. Nine alternatives were presented in the contentious, sometimes heated discussion. Support was divided between keeping the exitsing scope, or adopting a scope with more specificity. Some opponents of the specific scope were concerned that it was too limiting and would adversely affect project size. About twenty editors participated in the discussion.

	Inclusion of the article ] (KKK) was ]. Supporters for inclusion cited sources describing the KKK as "conservative." The article was excluded with more than 10 editors participating.

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	Project membership continues to grow. There are currently 73 members. Member ] ''(pictured)'' volunteers for the ] and ] is a ]. ] is interested in libertarianism. We won't tell ] he's ]. Let's stop by their talkpages and share some ].

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	<div style="font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size:190%; background-color:transparent; border:none; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; ">Why is Everyone Talking About Rick Santorum?<br /></div>
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	Articles about the GOP presidential candidate and staunch traditional marriage supporter have seen an explosion of discussion. On January 8 an RFC was opened ] to determine if Dan Savage's website link should be included in ]. The next day the ] article itself was the subject of an RFC ] to determine if including the Savage neologism was a violation of the ]. Soon after a third was opened ] at ]. This RFC proposes merging the ] into the ].

	The Abortion case ] in November after 15 weeks of contentious arbitration. The remedies include semi-protection of all abortion articles (numbering 1,500), sanctions for some editors including members of this Project, and a provision for a discussion to determine the names of what are colloquially known as the ] and ] articles. The Committee endorsed the "1 revert rule" for abortion articles.
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	== This is a crime ==

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	::Have you seen this {{tl\|Infobox speech}}? – Sir ], ]<sup>(])</sup> 04:48, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
	:::I hadn't. Thanks for letting me know about it.
	:::Also, the image below, is that meant as something like a Barnstar, or a wikicookie?--] (]) 04:50, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
	::::Cookie. Take a bite--he's delish.– Sir ], ]<sup>(])</sup> 05:14, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
	← If you believe that this particular speech is worthy of a standalone article, do you also believe we should write a standalone article entitled "corporations are people, my friend"? The phrase gets 56 million Google hits, and 20,000 Google News hits, thus fulfilling the criteria under which you've advocated for the Obama speech article. How about ] (26 million Google hits, 49,000 Google News hits)? What do you think? ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 02:58, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
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	== You are a STAR! ==

	This may be a little premature, but with the !voting about to close and the Keeps at +2, I'll bet ψ100 ] you get a "No consensus." <br>– Sir ], ]<sup>(])</sup> 04:30, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
	:KEEP! My wikimoney was on No consensus. Impressive save. – Sir ], ]<sup>(])</sup> 05:39, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
	::Although there were statements about the dislike of the "wall of text" and the unnecessary actions of replying to every new !vote that occurred, I believe that the practice helped focus the though process on both sides on why we believed that it should be kept, and they believed it should not be. By discussing their reasoning thoroughly and rebuking that reasoning with a logical argument, it is my belief that is why a KEEP was the outcome rather than no consensus.
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	With regard to how those who self identify as military experts came to the {{tl\|afd}} on articles I started -- I have always been aware that normal and policy-compliant use of deletion sorting could easily explain this, without leveling suggestions of non-policy-compliant off-wiki solicitation of !votes. I too have been unfairly accused of off-wiki solicitation. It it not pleasant.

	Thanks for your friendly good faith advice on my suggestion we initiate a new guideline that would cover all extrajudicial captives.

	What I was hoping for was that those who read the reasons in ] would help clarify how we interpret "one event" by taking a stand, like ''"IMO those are all second events, except being listed on a 'most wanted' list."'' Or, ''"IMO 'writing a book' is a second event -- all the other reasons you suggest remain part of the original 'single event'."''

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	== WikiProject Asian Americans ==

	Thanks for your award from last year . I'm interested in becoming more active on articles about Asian Americans. Could you direct me on how to find articles that need work? I found ] by a fluke. thanks--] (]) 16:44, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

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	You're up to 4 reverts at ] in just over 24 hours. I'm going to ask you to slow down and, ideally, self-revert your last edit. I'm sure you're aware of the ] and ], but if not, please consider this a formal notification. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 17:49, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
	:There are a difference between reverts and substantial edits, and my last one was a substantial edits by virtue that it was not a reversion of others work, IMHO.
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	::I will refrain from editing the lead section, on my own accord for a 48 hour period. However, if others take this time to POV push in the lead, I would kindly ask that others assist in maintaining the neutrality of that section of the article.--] (]) 19:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
	:::I object to that. From my personal viewpoint, RCLC and one or two other editors are sort of ] the article by leveraging the unwillingness of other editors to edit-war with them. It's not ''just'' the lead, although that's one problem area. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 19:51, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
	::::Is the objection that there is POV pushing in the lead?--] (]) 20:05, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

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