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| == Good article reassessment for ] == | |||
| == Copyright question re Norfolk Island == | |||
| ] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 22:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| Is Norfolk Island considered part of Australia for copyright purposes? I have been advised that the image of the Norfolk Island stamp at right, which I uploaded yonks ago and is used at ], will probably be zapped because it apparently has the wrong licensing. | |||
| So I had a look around at other Aussie stamps, and see which shows the image of the queen stamp also seen here. | |||
| Commons licensing is a mystery to me (and I suspect many, many other Wikipedians). If Norfolk Island '''is''' part of Oz re copyright, then I should be able to use the same licensing as is used for the queen's coronation image. Yes? No? ] (]) 00:08, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :Most a mystery to me too, but NI stamp was issued in 1980 and is copyright of Norfolk Island Post Office; The 1953 stamp (once copyright of forerunner of Australia Post) dates from more 50 years before 2005 and is thus out of copyright. Suspect that neither Australia Post or NI Post would be too concerned with images of their recent stamps being used on Misplaced Pages (and would probably welcome it) but what licensing would be required I don't know. I will add scans of pre-1955 NI stamps as soon as I get around to it. Most Aussie from that period I have done. ] (]) 10:53, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ::I'm not a lawyer, but it it appears that the Australian Copyright Act applies to Norfolk Island: (under section 18 of the it appears that Australian laws apply to Norfolk where this is explicitly stated in in the relevant act, which appears to be the case here). ] (]) 11:24, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :::but Australian or NI law is irrelevant. USA law is all that matters. ] (]) 13:58, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Not true I suspect. Surely if the uploader can be identified and lives in the country whose copyright is affected, they could be prosecuted even if the offending image is hosted elsewhere. What that country cannot do, IIRC is tell Misplaced Pages (which is hosted in the US) to take it down. --] (]) 20:38, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ::::read recent discussions here, PUF discussions linked from my talk page and ]. If it isn't Public Domain in the States they don't care about the status in the actual country of origin. 1955 means nothing, 1946 is the key date. Of course the chances that it will ever be tested in an actual court is microscopic, but the self appointed image wikilawyers will eventually hunt down your 1950 published images and banish them forever! U. S. A., U. S. A. Come on everyone, join in the chant. ] (]) 23:01, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| == "Of" or "in"? == | |||
| Some time ago I created ] and ]. These were subsequently moved to ] and ], supposedly to comply with a naming convention. Today, ] has moved ] to ] because it's grammatically correct. She ha also moved several other river articles. I was planning to revert, but can't find the naming convention that justifies the name. --] (]) 10:21, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :Yes, I think the recent move(s) need to be reverted. It's not made explicit at ], but ] clearly shows the convention. ]] (]) 10:54, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :However, I notice many lists have been moved, and not just Australian ones. It would be better to post a note at ], and ask for the convention to be made explicit. ]] (]) 10:57, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ::The Wiki convention (]) is that landforms are "XXX of Foo" wheareas e.g. man-made objects are "XXX in Foo". I have to say the former sounds a little stilted to me - I'm not sure why we don't always use "in". But I'm sure there's a logic somewhere...it just isn't explained at the convention page AFAICS. --] (]) 20:33, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :::Grammar; if something is intrinsically a ''part of'' or defined thus as a social construct, we shall use '''of''' (Rivers of..., Politicians of...); if something may be taken out of, or reasonably exist somewhere else, we use '''in''' (Crime in..., Outdoor dunnies in...). As a rule-of-thumb, if ''belonging to'' sounds reasonable use '''of'''. if not, use '''in'''. Sometimes, local colloquialism is at variance which may explain the edits of the contributor discussed above. ] (]) 10:16, 10 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| == Attention Melbourne editors! Pt 2 == | |||
| == Excessive out-of-scope information and SYN on Esperance articles re traditional ownership == | |||
| Just a follow up on ]. Isabelle was in touch to say she was unable to make the last meetup due to an unfortunate incident the day before, but she is looking forward to the next one! I notice the next meetup isn't on ] yet, but I'm assuming the "fourth Sunday" routine is ongoing? -- ] <span style="font-size:90%;">]</span> 06:35, 14 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| Editors are invited to comment at {{section link|WT:WA|Excessive out-of-scope information and SYN on Esperance articles re traditional ownership}} on the inclusion of unnecessary details and synthesis with respect to traditional ownership of the land in specific localities in the ], in WA. ] (]) 08:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Identification of Australian athletes == | |||
| == Topic suggestion == | |||
| I've posted this on both Wikimedia Australia's list, I'm needing some people whom are a little more knowledgeable with our Olympic athletes. I have photographs taken at the Welcome Home parade in Sydney which was back in August, but have some photos that I can't identify them. | |||
| If I may make a suggestion, for New Zealand, we have complete lists of ]. Maybe that's something to aim for to cover the Australian universities. ''']]''' 00:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| 26 photos have been uploaded but still have more but don't have the time. | |||
| . ] (]) 09:55, 16 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| == FYI == | |||
| == List of Central Coast Mariners FC players FLRC == | |||
| This project has tagged the ] talk page. So I am notifying you of ].-19:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC) ] <small>(] / ] / ] / ] / ])</small> 19:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| {{#if:|] has|I have}} nominated ] for ]. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the ]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are ]. ] (]) 00:20, 17 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| == How to handle Jervis Bay in heritage listings == | |||
| == National parks naming == | |||
| Hi, I've just created (the semi-finished) ]. The CHL lists four JB entries under the ACT. What's the best way to deal with this? (Split out JB to a separate list and add it to the CHL article? use "(including ])" at the ACT article? Leave it as is?) Thanks, <span style="font-size: 80%;color:blue"><sup>~</sup>]<sup>~]~</sup></span> 08:45, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| I recently completed the ]. It is quite large with 238 national parks, more than any other state or territory. ] is a but doesn't have a article about the park. All other national parks in Queensland have articles specifically about the parks rather than the place. Is that the same in other states? Should I rename it or create a new national park article? We don't have an article for Main Range, just ]. Does that matter or not if redirects are used? I know we have ] and ]. - ] (]) 04:21, 17 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :Perhaps move to ], then note in the article that the CHL groups them together although they are separate territories? Not sure a standalone list for four items is <span style=white-space:nowrap;>] <span style="background-color:mistyrose;padding:2px 5px;border-radius:5px;font-family:Arial black">]</span></span> 08:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :While JBT is technically a separate Commonwealth Territory, for legal, administrative, political and service delivery purposes, it functions as an exclave of the ACT. I think it is reasonable that the JBT entries are included in the ACT listing, but perhaps an explainer in the lead paragraph and footnotes with a caveat for these entries is warranted? I'm not sure 4 entries is really enough to justify a separate article and listing either. ] (]) 07:03, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks - done. <span style="font-size: 80%;color:blue"><sup>~</sup>]<sup>~]~</sup></span> 05:21, 12 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :Why not have two lists on the same article? Then you can have each title redirect to the relevant section. ''']''' (] • ]) 05:22, 12 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Template:Australian Women and Leadership == | |||
| == Welcome to more Misplaced Pages stupidity! == | |||
| ] does not appear to work any more, since the Australian Women's Register has been reorganised. Does anyone know how to fix it? ] (]) 08:33, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Another about on a page that hardly anyone is going to read yet the Admin whom made the move (both the IP whom listed it and the Admin who moved it as both from the same little country) but refuses to . Next this page will be known as Misplaced Pages:Australia Wikipedians' notice board. sigh! ] (]) 09:58, 17 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :Some invocations of that template don't work and land on https://www.womenaustralia.info/notice/, but all 5 examples at ] do work, which leaves me baffled. -- ] (]) 11:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :Perhaps the template should be deleted. ] (]) 14:35, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :Ping {{u|Zyxw}} as template creator per the version history. <span style="font-size: 80%;color:blue"><sup>~</sup>]<sup>~]~</sup></span> 23:50, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :: {{Reply to|Laterthanyouthink|Michael Bednarek|GoodDay|Hydronium Hydroxide}} Someone broke all these links by changing ] to use the wrong URL and ], which is not the same identifier. I undid that change and the links using this template should work again. -- ] (]) 13:26, 12 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::Oh thanks very much {{u|Zyxw}}. I've reinstated it on the page I was working on and it's fine now. ] (]) 23:06, 12 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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Good article reassessment for Arthur Phillip
Arthur Phillip has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 22:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Excessive out-of-scope information and SYN on Esperance articles re traditional ownership
Editors are invited to comment at WT:WA § Excessive out-of-scope information and SYN on Esperance articles re traditional ownership on the inclusion of unnecessary details and synthesis with respect to traditional ownership of the land in specific localities in the Shire of Esperance, in WA. Mitch Ames (talk) 08:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Topic suggestion
If I may make a suggestion, for New Zealand, we have complete lists of honorary doctorates conferred. Maybe that's something to aim for to cover the Australian universities. Schwede66 00:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
FYI
This project has tagged the Boomerang talk page. So I am notifying you of Talk:Boomerang#No_boomerang_thower_bios.-19:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC) TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
How to handle Jervis Bay in heritage listings
Hi, I've just created (the semi-finished) Commonwealth Heritage List in the Australian Capital Territory. The CHL lists four JB entries under the ACT. What's the best way to deal with this? (Split out JB to a separate list and add it to the CHL article? use "(including Jervis Bay Territory)" at the ACT article? Leave it as is?) Thanks, HydroniumHydroxide 08:45, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps move to Commonwealth Heritage List in the Australian Capital Territory and Jervis Bay Territory, then note in the article that the CHL groups them together although they are separate territories? Not sure a standalone list for four items is I T B F 📢 08:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- While JBT is technically a separate Commonwealth Territory, for legal, administrative, political and service delivery purposes, it functions as an exclave of the ACT. I think it is reasonable that the JBT entries are included in the ACT listing, but perhaps an explainer in the lead paragraph and footnotes with a caveat for these entries is warranted? I'm not sure 4 entries is really enough to justify a separate article and listing either. Dfadden (talk) 07:03, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks - done. HydroniumHydroxide 05:21, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Why not have two lists on the same article? Then you can have each title redirect to the relevant section. 5225C (talk • contributions) 05:22, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Template:Australian Women and Leadership
Template:Australian Women and Leadership does not appear to work any more, since the Australian Women's Register has been reorganised. Does anyone know how to fix it? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:33, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Some invocations of that template don't work and land on https://www.womenaustralia.info/notice/, but all 5 examples at D:Property:P4186 do work, which leaves me baffled. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps the template should be deleted. GoodDay (talk) 14:35, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ping Zyxw as template creator per the version history. HydroniumHydroxide 23:50, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Laterthanyouthink, Michael Bednarek, GoodDay, and Hydronium Hydroxide: Someone broke all these links by changing Template:Australian Women and Leadership to use the wrong URL and Wikidata:Property:P4186, which is not the same identifier. I undid that change and the links using this template should work again. -- Zyxw (talk) 13:26, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh thanks very much Zyxw. I've reinstated it on the page I was working on and it's fine now. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 23:06, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Laterthanyouthink, Michael Bednarek, GoodDay, and Hydronium Hydroxide: Someone broke all these links by changing Template:Australian Women and Leadership to use the wrong URL and Wikidata:Property:P4186, which is not the same identifier. I undid that change and the links using this template should work again. -- Zyxw (talk) 13:26, 12 January 2025 (UTC)