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I will reply here, and expect you to be watching my user talk page, even if you are Nyttend.
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Taking my break more seriously for a while...RL calls. ] (]) 03:58, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
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== meridians ==


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I noticed that you were a proponent of lower-casing the meridians, and lower case has prevailed. I stayed out of the discussion because I didn't feel strongly one way or the other. I think a case could be made for proper names in the same sense that ] or ] are proper names. Anyhow, I started to help out by cleaning up ] and ], then noticed these:
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I haven't looked to see if there were similar articles for other countries. What to do about these. I'm thinking that ] maybe should have been applied here. Someone (]) went to a lot of trouble to enter them all, as proper names. I started, but thought you could help. -] (]) 20:43, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
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:It doesn't look like a national varieties issues, so I'll work on it. ] (]) 21:47, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


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:All fixed. Let me know if you see any more meridians that need fixing. ] (]) 01:51, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
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::Looks better, thanks. You could check "what links here" for all the capitalized versions, for example, several articles still link to the capitalized version of ] (and thus use capital Meridian in the article). -] (]) 12:58, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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I'm presuming this is probably correct ], but since you seem to know this guideline best just noting it. ] (]) 08:02, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
:The guideline says we capitalize if sources do so consistently. Here, the majority of books use lower case . Capitalizing "Rising" makes it look like part of a name, obscuring its true meaning as a generic gerund. ] (]) 16:02, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
::The ngram didn't play on my PC, but a Googlebook shows that suspicion was justified. ] (]) 02:02, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
:::I started a conversation about it at ]. Not much action yet. ] (]) 03:15, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


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Well, thanks for fixing my mistake. I shouldn't try to do this when slightly sleepy, obviously. I have the feeling the original article could still use better wording to avoid being easily confusable with other similar statements, but I'm not up to determining what it is yet due to the keyboard-breaking levels of humiliation temporarily knocking out my reasoning. Any ideas? ] (]) 06:53, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 2px solid lightgray" |Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as ] in recognition of your great contributions! <span style="color:#a0a2a5">(courtesy of the ])</span>
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] submitted the following nomination for ]:
:It is said by many that '']''. Misplaced Pages articles are vastly improved and enhanced by the use of images. Dicklyon's user page displays just some of the over 500 images he has added to Misplaced Pages articles making the articles more enjoyable and interesting for our most important commodity, our reader. ]. He is a long-time veteran editor with over 137000 edits (58% in mainspace) who always uses the edit summary to clarify his edits and communicate his intentions to following editors. He also participates in various timely and important ] discussions to improve what and how we do things around here. A trusted, productive and helpful editor that deserves recognition as an Editor of the Week.


Hi Dick:
:It seems to me that ] got hijacked to ] following a misguided action on ]. The "power inverter" isn't an inverter anyway; this article should be moved to ] and the whole topic of ''inverter'' revisited. It refers to ''The Authoritative Dictionary of IEEE Standards Terms'', but that is not on-line accessible, so I don't know if this is simply an optional definition. What is your take? ] (]) 14:34, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's curious that although many books use the term "power inverter" in their subheadings and titles, in their actual discussion they revert immediately to the term "power converter", as in AC-DC power converter. For example, and . ] (]) 14:43, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
::The term ''inverter'' for that is very common in the non-technical literature, though. I agree that the ]-based hijacking of the ] disambig page was inappropriate. I left the closer a note about the discussion. ] (]) 16:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)


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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I've started to note the many scholarly contributions of this author, beginning with editing of the Misplaced Pages Cintel pages. For images and vision, I've had a lifelong career in color grading for feature films, tv commercials, videos, etc. with telecine and other systems worldwide; as a musician, 'Human and Machine Hearing' will certainly be fascinating. Thank you to Richard F. Lyon for providing the PDF of this work to all.
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The named meridians are proper nouns and like "Mountains" in ] and Pole in ] is capitalized, Meridian in ] should be kept capitalized. I started a talk at ]. ] (]) 21:41, 18 April 2012 (UTC)


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Hi Dick - just wanted to let you know that you double !voted at ]. I'm sure it wasn't on purpose, and I left a note on the page, but thought I'd let you know. ] (]) 18:42, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
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Feel free to duplicate this invite on the pages of others who have commented, for or against. ] (]) 00:30, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
* Thanks for your comment, I have reworded last para to more clearly invite edits as you have suggested. Personally I'd be very happy to let someone else draft this. But this disruption needs to stop. When I sent out invites it was quite clear that there was a massive support of non-sport editors for accurate names. ] (]) 04:58, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
** btw - any idea how many BLPs there are? ] (]) 09:54, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
***lots. ] (]) 15:03, 20 April 2012 (UTC)


== Wavelength ==


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Dick: I find it unlikely that anyone gives a damn about including a few sentences about Fourier series in ] except you and I.
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that's for these hacks:
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Is your opposition based upon the idea that adding a quote about Fourier series is "bloat", or something else?
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It is hard for me to see that this short reference to Fourier series is out of place - it is the only expansion of a periodic function valid over its entire domain, and the only one that is made up of terms that are themselves periodic functions with wavelengths of their own, wavelengths simply related to those of the function itself.
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | SO MANY MINOR EDITS! Thank you for your work. ]] 19:46, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
I don';t see any way to argue that Fourier series are not a major topic. Leaving them out is like talking about the US Mint without mentioning money. ] (]) 17:37, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
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:There we go again, commenting on the quantity of my edits instead of the quality. But minor thanks anyway. ] (]) 00:23, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
I see wisdom has directed you not to reply to my observations here. However, I'd like to pursue this matter a bit further.

The brouhaha on ] in the abstract amounts to a quarrel over whether a hugely important and well-known topic ''A'' that relies on a concept explained in topic ''B'' should be given a heads-up in the article on underlying topic ''B''. In the abstract, I cannot see where any objection can be raised provided the heads-up doesn't violate ].

Perhaps a wrinkle in this abstract argument would be to add that if topic &Omega; subsumes the topic ''A'', then &Omega; should be referred to in preference to topic ''A''. That seems logical with this proviso: topic &Omega; should make use of topic ''B''. That is the rub here.

Dick, your objections arise from the notion that Fourier series is a plebeian topic ''A'' best seen from the stance of general Fourier integral representations of arbitrary and not necessarily periodic functions, topic &Omega;. That may be the optimal point of view from which to understand Fourier series.

However, the topic ''B'' here is ''wavelength'' and it happens to be the case that Fourier series actually employs the concept of wavelength and spatial periodicity explicitly and fundamentally, while more general representations &Omega; of arbitrary waveforms do not. So it is appropriate to link to Fourier series ''A'' and not to some more general all-encompassing theory &Omega; that actually does not need the periodicity of the represented waveform because the waveform is represented in &Omega; only over a limited domain, perhaps an interval chosen to be a wavelength, but depending in no way upon the interval ''being'' a wavelength.

Any comments? ] (]) 15:16, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

:John, I think your RFC was a success in that it brought in lots of people to say that you had failed to make a sensible connection between the topics. I think you need to go back and review what makes sine waves unique with respect to the topic of wavelength, and then try again, using that to motivate a connection to Fourier series. Statements like "Fourier series actually employs the concept of wavelength and spatial periodicity explicitly and fundamentally" just confirm that you're far off track. ] (]) 17:35, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

::Dick: Thanks for engaging. I'd like you to help me out here. I don't understand the reaction to what seems to me to be a very straightforward and limited statement. The connection to me comes down to this:
:::1. Wavelength is defined by ''f(x+&lambda;) = f(x)''.
:::2. Fourier series describe any function satsifying ''f(x+&lambda;) = f(x)''
:::3. Fourier series for such functions directly involve sinusoids with wavelengths expressed as integral fractions of &lambda;

::There is the connection. Aside from the connection, which I suspect everyone gets that really has an interest beyond the drama of debate, is the issue of why it should be mentioned. Is that the problem with acceptance? ] (]) 17:46, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

:::Let's take the conversation back to the article talk page please. Maybe someone where will be able to get you to see the answer that I have failed repeatedly to get you to hear. ] (]) 18:40, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

== Seeking your psychoacoustic input ==

Hi, Dick: There is an interesting question over at ] about how to nail down a definition of the tonal center of a piece of music, or rather how we can even be sure such a thing as "musical resolution" is empirically demonstrable. Jerome Kohl put it thus: "if some innocent comes along and tells us there is no pitch centre, how can we prove that we are not wearing the Emperor's New Clothes?"

Mind checking it out if you have a spare tick or two? regards, ] (]) 20:02, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

:Key is one of the great mysteries of musical life; I don't think I can unravel it. ] (]) 21:49, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks, figured it wouldn't hurt to ask. __ ] (]) 21:54, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

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== FYI ==

] (FYI only, no action required) --] (]) 01:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the touch-ups to my new posts! All the best, ] (]) 01:16, 6 May 2012 (UTC).

== Vogel ==
I updated the link to the source I used for the article on Vogel. ] (]) 12:28, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
:Ah, I see, a ref but no inline citations. I don't read French, so maybe you could cite where appropriate where the "citation needed" tags are? ] (]) 06:30, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

== Arbitration Request for clarification ==

I have raised the recent discussions at Wavelength here:

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I don't know if you want to add yourself or otherwise get involved.--<small>]</small><sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">]</sub> 00:20, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

== Acps110, en dashes, and NYC subway station names ==

A month after you made the change, quite per policy, ] your amendment to the NYC subway project naming conventions, apparently claiming that "". When, in fact, that only reflects ], and therefore consensus doesn't matter one bit.

It's been quite a while since I came face to face with this degree of apparently willful disregard of policy here (]), so I am letting and TwinsMetsFan you know not so much to organize some sort of posse but just so that you know, and so that we can all try to find some way to resolve this the way we're supposed to do. Because this happened again almost two months ago, and he has apparently completely ignored ], meaning I would to have consider that a failed attempt at resolving the problem. I am not ready to go where that would lead, at least not yet. What are your thoughts? ] (]) 03:29, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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== ] ==

Hi, your input to ] would be helpful please to further explain the value of the task. Thanks ] 06:32, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

== Thanks ... ==

for . Qute as my typo was, it qlearly mussed up the page. Best — <span style="letter-spacing:1pt; font-variant:small-caps;"></sup> cardiff]]</span> &#124; <sub><span style="letter-spacing:1pt; font-variant:small-caps;">]</span></sub> — 23:01, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
:Jim and Don would not be happy had I not fixed it. ] (]) 23:03, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

== Abt deletion ==

I do not understand why my quote was deleted from the Steve Jobs article. Unsourced and malformed? Expecting a quick reply.--] 09:32, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

:Unsourced means you did not cite a reliable source for it. Malformed means you broke it up into a bunch of paragraphs for no apparent reason. You can fix these things when you put it back. ] (]) 16:12, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

:: Thank you for the information. i will put it back soon, though you could have resolved the errors yourself. But who am I to order people around? :p --] 05:06, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

:::You're thinking that I could have discovered your source and cited it? Perhaps so. ] (]) 05:09, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

== 35mm equivalent reproduction ratio ==

Re: Your notability tag: Your note says "restore notability tag; see talk page about that". But there is nothing here about it. ] (]) 18:43, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

:I meant the article talk page: ]. ] (]) 18:46, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

== please first think, then TALK and then act (destructively) if really neccessary ==

would you please make a constructive explanation on the talk-page and not a blind deletion in the article ]. PLEASE ] (]) 21:15, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

:My is rather that your additions be justified first, since you've been on a bloat blitz there. ] (]) 21:21, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::Then my advice: make a write-protection on this page for normal wikipedia-users! Else avoid this totally subjective judgment (since you've been on a bloat blitz) of WHAT WHO is allowed to change. ] (]) 23:03, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

== Link Spam of Data Structures ==

I've been adding links to known Java implementations of several data structures, not sure why you consider it spam. I've checked the guidelines and there is nothing in there guiding someone not to add implementations and there are already many implementations list on each page.

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:When an editor does nothing but add external links, I consider them to be a link spammer. If there are good reasons for have more implementation links, make your case on the relevant article talk pages. ] (]) 21:47, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

:Your contributions might be better-received if you did not link them to your own userpage. Misplaced Pages is a collaborative project, not a place to showcase your personal work.. --] (]) 22:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

::Indeed, I reverted him so fast I didn't even notice he was linking his user page in articles! ] (]) 06:48, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

== ] image ==
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Hi, I made ]. Is there a use for it in the article? The article hasn't been edited in a while so I thought I would ask you in case no one has it on watch lists. We can edit the existing image or upload another as well.--] (]) 00:45, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

:I don't know. It's hard to present info in an image that way. And screen shots are usually frowned on for copyright reasons. A table might be better; but there is one already. ] (]) 06:51, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
No problem. I created it for privacy discussions that are going on in commons. Feel free to archive/delete this section.--] (]) 07:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

==RFAR Perth opened==
An arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located at ]. Evidence that you wish the Arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence sub-page, at ]. '''Please add your evidence by {{#time: F j|{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}{{#if:|, {{{3}}}}} +14 day}}{{#if:|, {{#switch:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{{3}}}|December {{#expr: 32 - 14}}, {{{3}}}={{#expr: + 1}}|}}}}, 2012, which is when the evidence phase closes.''' You can contribute to the case workshop sub-page, ]. For a guide to the arbitration process, see ]. For the Arbitration Committee, ] (]) 18:06, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

== Full service (restaurant) red link ==

Hello, Dicklyon. I recently edited ] to add a link to the currently nonexistent page ]. You removed the red link with the edit summary, "ce; rm item with no support in linked article". There were other changes in your edit, but I assume the red link is the removed link you meant.

I actually added red links to that non-existent page on ], ], and ]. Until I did, each linked to ]. (I also linked a few dozen other pages to the appropriate target, mostly ].)

I thought the page ] would be an appropriate link, even though it doesn't yet exist. Per ], "A link to a non-existent article (a "red link") should only be included on a disambiguation page when an article (not just disambiguation pages) also includes that red link. Do not create red links to articles that are unlikely ever to be written, or are likely to be removed as insufficiently notable topics." Since three pages already (apparently) intended to link to a page describing or defining the concept of "full service" in restaurants, I concluded that such page was like to be written. You may disagree, or you may believe that such a page is unlikely to be notable. If that is the case, I wonder if you think the various "full services" (restaurant, hotel, car wash, service station, rest area) should be removed from the DAB page?

Thanks, and happy editing. ] (]) 03:53, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

:I took out the redlink because the ] link in the item had support for full-service restaurant already, and there should only be one link per item. You can redirect the redlink to that section and put it back if you like. The item with no support that I removed was ]. ] (]) 03:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

:Even better, make it ], since articles named for adjectives are not normal. ] (]) 03:57, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

:Actually, there's no good section to redirect to, but you could add something to ]. I updated the dab page; you'll probably want to use that link in the articles where you put the redlink. ] (]) 04:00, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

:I replaced all the redlinks. Feel free to work on a better redirect or article at ]. ] (]) 05:33, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

::Great, thanks for the reply and happy editing. ] (]) 07:16, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

== E=mc<sup>2</sup> Talk Nomenclature ==

Please, could you check if the references are satisfactory to use the section "Nomenclature" in the article?
] --] (]) 16:03, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

== Minor edits ==

I hope I can trouble you to mark minor edits such as as minor when you submit them. This will help keep watchlists in check. Thanks. --] (]) 14:12, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

:I pretty much do only minor edits, like case and punctuation fixes such as those, and reverts of vandalism and nonsense, these days (plus some talk page comments like in requested moves). I'm "on break" from actual creative work here. Is there a way to make "minor" the default so I don't have to think about it. ] (]) 16:28, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

::I looked in preferences but there doesn't appear to be anything. --] (]) 12:59, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
:::There used to be such an option, but for some reason we can't have nice things like that any more. __ ] (]) 14:08, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

== Carbon mono/dioxide DAB ==

What is wrong with it? The only reason why i was warring was to communicate. Here are some reasons why it is not silly.

- Carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide are VERY similar sounding.

- They are both produced by burning

- they are both bad

- They are both sometimes referred to simply as "carbon".

Also, not just experienced chemists would be reading the articles. CO and CO2 are general interest topics. People want to learn about global warming and other effects of CO2, and on the toxicity of CO. Many of these may mix them (or at least their abbreviations) up. I cant remember where, but it said that all general interest articles should be made comprehensible to an average highschool student (not a GATE student). Many of them at least say that the chemical formula for Di- is CO. When was the last time you talked to someone who wasn't a chemist? At least mention each other in the see also. ] (]) 00:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

:Each of the articles already links the other under "related compounds". I've never heard of these being confused, or being referred to as "carbon"; a "not to be confused with" hatnote is rarely used, and only where there is real ambiguity or a good reason to expect confusion. I don't hang out with any chemists, but I did help my kids get through chemistry class, so I know a bit myself. ] (]) 05:27, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

::Not everyone knoes how to use that box. Also, they have been referred to as carbon (E.g., "Carbon footprint,", "carbonated beverages," "Putting carbon in the air", etc.) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:01, 18 July 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:::Not really; see ] and ]. ] (]) 22:16, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

==Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Vietnamese)#RfC_on_spelling==
] You are invited to join the discussion at ]. {{#if:|{{{more}}}}} ] (]) 13:45, 22 July 2012 (UTC){{z48}}

== New template ==
I created a new template for listing old move discussions: {{tl|Oldmoves}}, since I missed having it during the Cote d'Ivoire and other debates. Please take a look and tweak/change/improve. I've added it to a few articles ], ], ] as a pilot so you can see what it looks like; if you like it, you can add it to other articles you've worked on. --] (]) 16:56, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

== Move review ==

Are you aware of the move review on the ] move? ] (]) 01:15, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
:No, I was not. Where is it? I don't see anything on the talk page. I'm packing for vacation, so may not find time to say much. ] (]) 04:12, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
::Sorry for the late response since I don't watch your talk. The discussion is ]. As I noted on the talk page there is what I think a flaw in the notification process. I suspect that some editors did not see the notice because of their watch lists. But as I recall, no one has commented on the MR talk page about my concern ]. ] (]) 06:16, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

== Wtshymanski again ==

I saw the Wtshymanski AfD for ], now he tries an ] for "]" in the same manner. ] (]) 03:22, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
:Probably just because he doesn't like you. I see your first ref is by buds Urs and Bill. ] (]) 03:26, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

::Guess he got put of by having his "turf" subforked ;-) Didn't get what you mean with "first ref is buds Urs and Bill" ? ] (]) 04:17, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

:::Never mind. ] (]) 04:19, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

== Jasidih–Dumka–Rampurhat railway ==

Hi, i saw the page move ]. I am not challenging the page move, just wanted to know the guideline that supports this, so that I can be careful in future as well. Thanks and regards--''<span style="text-shadow:0px 0px .3em LightSkyBlue;">]]</span>'' 14:33, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
:Combination of ] and ], and trying to make the title more like the article text and similar articles (railway instead of rail line). ] (]) 14:34, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
:Notice that I also made the redirect from ]. ] (]) 14:35, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

== Formatting equations within text ==

I would be grateful for your advice about this.

Some time ago, someone (I think it may have been you, but I'm not certain about that) told me that equations within the text of articles should be done using the math|A template - I then followed this rule. Now someone has said the contrary in ] and altered all the equations in the article accordngly.

Is there a standard rule for Misplaced Pages or is this a case of doctors disagreeeing? I'm happy to go along with whatever it is, but need to know.

Cheers ] (]) 20:10, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

:It seems unlikely that I would have told you it's the usual way to go, as I seldom use it myself, but it does make better looking math in text than either html or math mode does. I don't know if there's any standard, or any good way to resolve opinions on such things, but I'm sure there's a guideline about it somewhere. Looks like ] if the place to read. Let me know what you find... ] (]) 20:39, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

:::Thanks for that. I think the answer is ]. This suggests to me that while HTML is much easier to produce, and usually gives the same result as Tex, the use of TeX is likely to be more precise and more repeatable across different browsers and therefore on the whole superior. The article does not, however, prescribe its use. I will continue to use it, and can't help thinking that ] has not done any favours by removing it from the Kirchoff diffraction article.

:::Cheers again ] (]) 08:53, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

::::The math template is pure html, I think, unlike the LaTeX math-mode tags. ] (]) 03:21, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

==Stops==

In http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Image_sensor_format&diff=504378803&oldid=504350047 you claim a difference between stops and F-numbers ("Those are stops, not f-numbers; unlink f-number if you like"), but refer to F-number in the link. I don't want to unlink; I would like to know what a stop is, if it is not a colloquial term for an f-number? I know it is not a bus stop or a full stop - but what is it then? Please link to the correct explanation, thanks! --] (]) 20:48, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
:A stop is a factor of two change in exposure, or film speed, or aperture area, or shutter speed. It's sometimes called a "step", but a "stop" is more familiar. For example, between the f-numbers 4 and 5.6 is one stop. Between 4 and 8 is two stops, etc. See ]. I updated the link to go there. ] (]) 21:21, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
:: Would calling it "relative EV" or "light sensitivity (EV)", linking to ] make more sense? The caption currently says "Stop" (Area), i.e. an f-stop expressed in the dimension of "area" (implied area of the chip). Without an aperture, as a property of a chip, that makes no sense to me. Perhaps the column needs explaining in the text above, I don't know. ] (]) 20:10, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::It's not a particularly apt use of stops, I agree. The idea is to express the ratio of how much light gets used to make the image, when the sensor and lens are scaled together, keeping the f-number and exposure and EV constant. So it's not an EV difference; but it is equivalent to a sensitivity difference; but not an ISO speed difference. How confusing. ] (]) 21:36, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
==about the images==
ok I’ll have it in mind when uploading any other image, thanks for the advise ] (]) 05:31, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

== Marilyn Monroe ==
*Yes, there was a memorial service. We have pictures from the service and will post soon. ] (]) 02:50, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
I have no doubt. But you'd need a ] to say so in wikipedia. Surely it will make the newspapers... ] (]) 02:51, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

== I propose to wait ==

for a couple of days before starting RfC at ] in order to get more alternative proposals? There is an invitation to members of and WikiProject Yugoslavia to join this discussion. Maybe somebody would have better proposal than ].--] (]) 18:31, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
:RM is closed. Members of WPS or WPY had enough time to join the discussion. Are you still for RfC or you think that another RM would be better?
:English is not my native language. Will you please be so kind to tell me your opinion about ''German-occupied Serbia'' in sense of English grammar? There are few articles like ] which contains similar expression, but I am still unsure if such construction is allowed.--] (]) 09:07, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
::Yes, that seems like a perfectly good name for it. It is . There's nothing wrong with trying another RM, and reserve RFC for if it gets totally wedged. ] (]) 16:38, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

== August 2012. Battles of the Mexican–American War ==

Hello Diclyon: According to information I have which I got from various publications such as:
*''Tabasco: Una historia compartida''/ Arias Gómez Mária Eugenia/ 1987/ Gobierno del estado de Tabasco/ isbn=968-6173-11-0
*''Tabasco: Textos de su historia Vol. 1''/ Arias Gómez Mária Eugenia/ 1985/ Gobierno del estado de Tabasco/ isbn=968-889-015-4
*''Villahermosa Nuestra Ciudad''/ Torruco Saravia Geney/ 1987/ H. Ayuntamiento Comstitucional de Centro/ oclc=253403147

the ] ended with mexican victory, as the forces commanded by Commodore ], could not take the city, having to withdraw to the port of Frontera, culminating in this way the battle. In June 1847 Commodore Perry would return to stage the ], ending with a U.S. victory. Thanks and greetings. ] (]) 02:27, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

:But you gave no edit summary or other hint that your edit was anything but random vandalism. ] (]) 03:08, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Ahh, yes, sorry, I forgot to write the edit summary. Thanks and greetings ] (]) 22:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

== Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia ==

G'day Dicklyon,
Just a small observation, take it with a grain of salt if you like. Reading through your comments on the RM, I noticed that you had a look at the article and felt it was not about the territory. Last time we went through all this with ] and decided on the current title, I was so exhausted by the never-ending prattle in hard to understand prose that I admit to leaving the article alone for a while after we staggered over the line. All I got done was the lead and some of the first section (down to the end of the second para of 'Invasion and partition'). Then I went off to be productive where my every edit wasn't going to be reverted. My point is not to draw too much of a conclusion from the rest of the article, it badly needs renovating, its structure is pretty ordinary etc. And thanks for being devil's advocate and staying neutral, it's pretty rare in the Balkans articles. Cheers, ] (]) 12:45, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

== Slender Man ==

Hi Dick. Please see ] a thread in which you might have some input or interest.--] (]) 22:23, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
:Hi Dick. I appreciate you guys were in a bind regarding ] but in future the next time you are faced with creating an un-redirectable redirect, if you could discuss it on the talk page of the article you intend to redirect to, that would be appreciated. Thanks. :-) <b>]]<font color="#00b">]</font></b> 14:38, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

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== Wouldn't the most accurate term for UHDTV be "ultra-high definition television"? ==

] uses the term "ultra-high definition television". Since that is the ITU-R Recommendation that will be the basis for UHDTV wouldn't that be the most accurate term for it? --] (]) 03:25, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

:Just depends on what you mean by accurate. Some sources also say "ultra high-definition television" and "ultra-high-definition television". As a fan of using English punctuation rules to help convey meaning, I prefer the latter. And it's more consistent with "high-definition television", which is obviously the best way to do that one. The form "ultra-high definition television" suggests a definition television that is ultra high, and is naturally preferred by those who were previously OK with omitting hyphens as in "high definition television". I think it is WP style to try to convey meaning clearly by utilizing the tools of English punctuation correctly. ] (]) 18:26, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

::I can understand that you believe that you know what is best in terms of English punctuation rules but Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia that should be based on references. You have moved the UHDTV page twice now without discussion and I believe that an international standard that will be the basis for UHDTV would be the most reliable reference. --] (]) 03:06, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, your advice appreciated on Foo Province and Foo Dynasty. Cheers. ] (]) 00:45, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

== '''The Olive Branch''': A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1) ==

Welcome to the first edition of ''The Olive Branch''. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in ] (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are ], but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to ].
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In this issue:
* '''Background''': A brief overview of the DR ecosystem.
* '''Research''': The most recent DR data
* '''Survey results''': Highlights from Steven Zhang's April 2012 survey
* '''Activity analysis''': Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
* '''DR Noticeboard comparison''': How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
* '''Discussion update''': Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
* '''Proposal''': It's time to close the ]. Agree or disagree?
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== ] ==

Heads-up ] (I am working thorough the backlog of {{tl|movenotice}}s on the article page which do not have corresponding {{tl|requested move}}s on the talk page, and this old one came out in the wash). -- ] (]) 14:48, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

== Invitation to comment at ] RfC ==

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--] (]) 22:14, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

== case fixes ==

Some of the "Door x" stuff was in quotes from at least one source. Just FYI. At one point all instances of "door x" were "Door x" (for consistency). If you feel strongly it should simply be "door x" I guess I don't care - except where it's from a quote. -- ] <small>(])</small> 04:16, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

:I did note and retain caps in quotes; if I missed one or more, please fix. But some of those in quotation marks didn't appear to be quotes (or I was unable to verify them as quotes). ] (]) 04:26, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

== Random-access ==

I don't disagree with you particularly but I think we should get consensus before making these changes. <font color="#500000">]</font><font color="#005000">]</font> 03:11, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
:I think consensus is as represented in ]. If nobody objects, we have consensus. So why do you object? ] (]) 03:13, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
::It's possible we'll run into McCandlish's ] but I think it's worth checking before changing what appears to be ''a general pattern of practice''. <font color="#500000">]</font><font color="#005000">]</font> 03:16, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
:::Not clear what you mean by run into. Certainly specialist styles are more likely to drop the hyphens, but we have a generalist style, don't we? ] (]) 03:20, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
::::From what I have seen there is no consensus on specialist source usage versus MOS ''guidance''. I think, since the hyphen is not common, this may be a case where specialist editors are attached to their standard practice. Two approaches for dealing with that are 1) ask first in hopes that MOS-compliance is welcome (but risk stirring up trouble) or 2) be bold and hope MOS-compliance goes unnoticed for long enough to become accepted practice. <font color="#500000">]</font><font color="#005000">]</font> 04:03, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

== '''The Olive Branch''': A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #2) ==

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'''This edition The Olive Branch is focusing on a 2nd dispute resolution RfC. Two significant proposals have been made. Below we describe the background and recent progress and detail those proposals. Please review them and follow the link at the bottom to comment at the RfC. We need your input!'''

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;Background
Until late 2003, ] was the arbiter in all major disputes. After the ] and the ] were founded, Wales delegated his roles of dispute resolution to these bodies. In addition to these committees, the community has developed a number of informal processes of dispute resolution. At its peak, over 17 dispute resolution venues existed. Disputes were submitted in each venue in a different way.

Due to the complexity of Misplaced Pages dispute resolution, ] about their experiences with dispute resolution. In general, the community believes that dispute resolution is too hard to use and is divided among too many venues. Many respondents also reported their experience with dispute resolution had suffered due to a shortage of volunteers and backlogging, which may be due to the disparate nature of the process.

An evaluation of dispute resolution forums was made in May this year, in which data on response and resolution time, as well as success rates, was collated. This data is ].

;Progress so far
]. Here, participants fill out a request through a form, instead of through wikitext, making it easier for them to use, but also imposing word restrictions so volunteers can review the dispute in a timely manner.]]

Leading off from the survey in April and the evaluation in May, several changes to ] were proposed. Rather than using a wikitext template to bring disputes to DRN, editors used a ]. This form was simpler to use, but also standardised the format of submissions and applied a word limit so that DRN volunteers could more easily review disputes. A ] to summarise, and a robot to maintain the noticeboard, were also created.

As a result of these changes, volunteers responded to disputes in a third of the time, and resolved them 60% faster when compared to May. Successful resolution of disputes increased by 17%. Submissions were 25% shorter by word count.(see )

Outside of DRN other simplification has taken place. The ] was closed in August, and ] was closed in September. Nevertheless, around fifteen different forums still exist for the resolution of Misplaced Pages disputes.

;Proposed changes
Given the success of the past efforts at DR reform, the current RFC proposes we implement:

1) A '''submission gadget for every DR venue''' tailored to the unique needs of that forum.
* Similar to the one that was deployed, with great success, to the DRN.
* Structured based on the specific issues most commonly dealt with at each forum.
* Designed to improve the quality of requests for DR and the efficiency of DR at that forum.
* Applicable at following noticeboards: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ].
* Forms will merely fill out any existing templates (such as Arbcom's) and create a markup-free form in line with specific noticeboard practices otherwise.
* Example form fields: What pages are involved? What users are involved? What is the issue? What resolution is desired?
2) A '''universal dispute resolution wizard''', accessible from ].
*This wizard would ask a series of structured questions about the nature of the dispute.
*It would then determine to which dispute resolution venue a dispute should be sent.
*If the user agrees with the wizard's selection, s/he would then be asked a series of questions about the details of the dispute (for example, the usernames of the involved editors).
*The wizard would then submit a request for dispute resolution to the selected venue, in that venue's required format (using the logic of each venue's specialized form, as in proposal #1). The wizard would not suggest a venue which the user has already identified in answer to a question like "What other steps of dispute resolution have you tried?".
*Similar to the way the DRN request form operates, this would be enabled for all users. A user could still file a request for dispute resolution manually if they so desired.
*Coding such a wizard would be complex, but the DRN gadget would be used as an outline.
*Once the universal request form is ready (coded by those who helped create the DRN request form) the community will be asked to try out and give feedback on the wizard. The wizard's logic in deciding the scope and requirements of each venue would be open to change by the community at any time.

3) Additionally, we're seeking any ideas on '''how we can attract and retain more dispute resolution volunteers'''.

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'''Please share your thoughts at the ].'''

--''The Olive Branch'' 18:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
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== Airport names ==

<s>More discussion on airport names.</s> I am contacting you, and all past participants in recent discussions on this issue, because there is now a new RFC.

] says that proper names get hyphens, like Jones-Smith (or, as the example says "John Lennard-Jones". Are airport names any different? If I take a bicycle trip from Paris to Orly and write an article about it, or someone else does, it would correctly be called ] with an en dash and trip not capitalized. But if I create a bicycle and call it the ] that becomes a proper name and is capitalized. Is not the same true for airport names? Please see the discussions at ], ] and the recently opened RfC at ]. ] (]) 21:10, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
:That's misleading, Apteva. ] says this:
:<blockquote>"Hyphenation also occurs in bird names such as {{xt|Great Black-backed Gull}}, and in proper names such as {{xt|Great Black-backed Gull}} and {{xt|Wilkes-Barre}}."</blockquote>
:Some proper names "get hyphens", but that does not mean no proper name gets an en dash. "Are airport names any different?" Any different from ''what'', exactly? From the default naming assumption that is mentioned at ]? That is the question facing the RFC to which you refer. An especially ill-posed one, in my opinion, with poor structure and unsupported preliminary assumptions.
:PLEASE NOTE: discussions do not occur at places like <nowiki>]</nowiki>. That is not a talkpage. Try this instead: ]. I see you making that mistake a lot.
:<font color="blue"><big>N</big><small>oetica</small></font><sup><small>]</small></sup> 22:57, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

==Unsupported attribution==
There were claims like "prominent" and "talented" in ] I went back to the reference and what I could verify is that he was a person in a list of attorneys. There was no secondary source validating the claim he was particularly talented. Unattributed reference removed following ]. This is not anything against anyone. It is to make it better in line with Wiki style of writing. ] (]) 04:24, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
:Actually the words in the paragraph cited were "talented" and "capable", but I agree we don't need to treat those as fact. ] (]) 16:26, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

== Frederic Eugene Ives article graphics ==

Hello again,

During the past year or two I have sporadically done some work on the ] article. Having finally initiated myself into the mysteries of uploading images, I just added an interesting "lost" picture of Ives and a presentation of a classic Kromogram (apparently Number 1 in the catalog in honor of its ample "wow" factor) which nicely demonstrates that good photographic color reproduction, including of vivid reds, was possible in the 1890s.

I see that you were the contributor of the color composite of the Tower of London Kromogram from ''A Half-Century of Color'', an image that I know well: when I first encountered it in 1970, I was so juiced by the prospect of an authentic natural-color-and-3-D peek into 1898 that I spent the grocery money on a set of diazo films. My analog results were about the same as your digital, which is to say very disappointing. In addition to the problems inherent in reproducing a scene with subtle colors from a rough mid-century printed halftone of separation negatives, I suspect that uneven lighting and processing at the time that halftone was prepared may be contributing factors, along with silvering or other uneven deterioration of the source material. Last but perhaps not least, Ives' one-shot camera, which he always used for landscapes at that time, seems to me to be liable to ill effects from the use of separate diaphragms in each optical path to control the relative exposures, which could give rise to differing degrees of subtle vignetting, and perhaps also from angle-dependent reflection efficiencies and related polarization effects. The still lifes and most everything else, including the much later San Francisco views, were shot with a repeating back camera blissfully immune to those potential ills, leaving only camera shutter characteristics, harmfully edge-accelerated wet processing, an insufficiently distant printing light, and later image deterioration to account for any unevenness of color.

Now that a more representative and technologically better-sourced Kromogram has been installed, do you have any objections to the retirement of the misleadingly rough Tower of London images?

] (]) 02:30, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

:I agree that the vase of flowers is a much better representation of the kromogram. Go for it. ] (]) 21:09, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

== Courtesy notification of discussion ==

Hi, Dicklyon, there is a discussion by User:‎Apteva/Delphi234 that involves you . Regards, --] (]) 12:17, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

== ANI ==


==New topics==
My apology for dragging you into this, but the insistence on using an inappropriate section on the MOS talk page was in my opinion completely unexceptable. It was moved to my talk page where it would have stayed and that would have been the end of it had not another editor felt the need to duplicate it. Hence I am recommending a block on both editors for violation of Arbcom sanctions. The place to bring up disruptions is on a user talk page and ANI, not a talk page for a guideline, regardless of how serious. ], and specifically:


;Add new topics at the bottom please.
"All parties reminded


1.2) All parties are reminded to avoid personalizing disputes concerning the Manual of Style, the article titles policy ('WP:TITLE'), and similar policy and guideline pages, and to work collegially towards a workable consensus. In particular, a rapid cycle of editing these pages to reflect one's viewpoint, then discussing the changes is disruptive and should be avoided. Instead, parties are encouraged to establish consensus on the talk page first, and then make the changes.


== Happy New Year! ==
:Passed 9 to 0, 22:47, 23 March 2012 (UTC)"


]
What would you propose as a neutral section heading that does not name a specific editor and is relevant to improving the MOS? If none, the section should be simply deleted. ] (]) 01:13, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
To all my talk friends. ] (]) 02:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


== Note ==
:Let me point out that Apteva's talk page has a facsimile of your signature, however the edit history clearly indicates that you did not place it there. Please note that per ], impersonating another editor by using his or her username or signature is forbidden. --] (]) 01:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
::Please read the following "(moved from WP:MOS talk page)" and check the history for that talk page, where User:Dicklyon did in fact "place it there". This is just moving discussion to where it properly belongs. I was under no obligation to do so. The post could be simply deleted as off topic. ] (]) 03:35, 14 October 2012 (UTC)


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Indian_Panthers
Neotarf, I realize that he copied my section to his talk page; I even replied to him there already. Apteva, the section is also relevant on ] where I first put it, which is why I restored it again there. ] (]) 07:02, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
:And interestingly one of the two signatures that was refracted was the one that was put there while the section was on my user page. Refracting even to "remove a signature" is not something that I would do. ] (]) 14:43, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
:As to its relevance on the MOS talk page, that is a stance that is difficult to support, which is why the thread was closed by an admin. ] (]) 14:53, 14 October 2012 (UTC)


(you had experience with user who does not understand ref policy) ] (]) 23:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
== Comets ==


Any objections to moving all of the comet articles from endash to hyphen? Out of 40 books at Google books (using preview only) produces 36 using a hyphen and 4 an endash. 32 used Comet and 8 used comet. ] (]) 04:51, 16 October 2012 (UTC) :I don't understand why you object to having a ref on that final sentence of the paragraph, or what policy you think is being violated there. ] (]) 00:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:Of course I object, and I'm pretty sure you have not counted correctly in both cases. In any case, WP style is to use the en dash when connecting names of two people, and hyphen in some other situations; the punctuation tells the reader the meaning, and the goal should be to serve the reader, as many books and articles do, not to dumb down like the many ohters that one finds. ] (]) 17:52, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
::Please feel free to present your own evidence. As with any scientist, no conclusion is drawn before experiments are performed to confirm theories. It is a theory that an endash is used and an equally valid theory that a hyphen is used, barring any other evidence, such as the actual rules of how comets are named: Whether any of the popular media or any books use the actual name is also important to answer. But no, I would say that is the opinion of a minority of WP editors that endash rules supercedes TITLE rules. But everyone is welcome to their opinion. I wanted to poll anyone who might likely object before re-opening the RM so that I could find out what the basis for their likely objection might be. But to say that it dumbs down the text to ignore actual naming conventions of the IAU and make up different names is odd. The funniest thing is that both of us have identical backgrounds and identical intelligence, and it would be nice to have the product of the two be something productive instead of opposing votes every time. In Mexican-American War I trusted the google OCR, but for the comet data I solely used page previews, and will do that for Mex as well. In some cases we ignore official information, because common usage differs. But to ignore official information ''and'' common usage makes no sense - to me. ] (]) 20:36, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
:::There is plenty of common usage in the same style as that specified in ]. It's much easier to find examples in than in book search, since the snippets there are made from text in pdf and html files, rather than from OCR that does not distinguish en dash from hyphen. ] (]) 21:36, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

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The Original Barnstar
I'm not sure why you haven't picked up a bevy of these already, but thanks for all your effort, particularly in tracking down good sources with diagrams, etc., on the photography- and color-related articles (not to mention fighting vandalism). Those areas of Misplaced Pages are much richer for your work. Cheers! —jacobolus (t) 02:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


Ivan
The Photographer's Barnstar
To Dicklyon on the occasion of your photograph of Ivan Sutherland and his birthday! What a great gift. -User:SusanLesch 04:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


All Around Amazing Barnstar
For your hard work in improving and watching over the Ohm's law article SpinningSpark 00:59, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


The Original Barnstar
For your improvements to the Centrifugal force articles. Your common sense approach of creating a summary-style article at the simplified title, explaining the broad concepts in a way that is accessible to the general reader and linking to the disambiguated articles, has provided Misplaced Pages's readership with a desperately needed place to explain in simple terms the basic concepts involved in understanding these related phenomena. Wilhelm_meis (talk) 14:29, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


The Surreal Barnstar
For your comment here which at once admits your own errors with humility yet focusses our attention upon the real villain Egg Centric (talk) 17:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


Convict Lake
The Photographer's Barnstar
For your great contribution to Misplaced Pages in adding pictures and illustrations to articles improving the reader's experience by adding a visual idea to the written information.--Xaleman87 (talk) 05:57, 26 February 2014 (UTC)


The Special Barnstar
I could not find a barnstar for standing up to an outrageously unjust block so you get a special one. Hang in there. В²C ☎ 23:25, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


The Resilient Barnstar
For your work in standardising article titles in line with the now consistent MOS:JR guidance, I present you this accolade. Your continued work in this regard, and in others, has been appreciated. It may have taken years, but much was accomplished. RGloucester — ☎ 14:44, 30 July 2016 (UTC)


The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For an eternity of super-gnoming at WP:Requested moves to rein in entire swathes of article-titling chaos and bring them into order. I'm sure it can seem thankless work at times, so thanks!  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ⱷ҅ᴥⱷ<  19:41, 13 December 2017 (UTC)


Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your great contributions! (courtesy of the Misplaced Pages Editor Retention Project)

User:Buster7 submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

It is said by many that A picture is worth a thousand words. Misplaced Pages articles are vastly improved and enhanced by the use of images. Dicklyon's user page displays just some of the over 500 images he has added to Misplaced Pages articles making the articles more enjoyable and interesting for our most important commodity, our reader. WP:Photography. He is a long-time veteran editor with over 137000 edits (58% in mainspace) who always uses the edit summary to clarify his edits and communicate his intentions to following editors. He also participates in various timely and important WP:Manual of Style discussions to improve what and how we do things around here. A trusted, productive and helpful editor that deserves recognition as an Editor of the Week.


The Original Barnstar
I've started to note the many scholarly contributions of this author, beginning with editing of the Misplaced Pages Cintel pages. For images and vision, I've had a lifelong career in color grading for feature films, tv commercials, videos, etc. with telecine and other systems worldwide; as a musician, 'Human and Machine Hearing' will certainly be fascinating. Thank you to Richard F. Lyon for providing the PDF of this work to all. 
Lingelbach (talk) 22:28, 2 February 2021 (UTC)


Fighting the Good Fight Barnstar
For resisting those who would like Misplaced Pages’s capitalization rules to resemble a corporate brochure or a government press release —Wallnot (talk) 02:49, 13 May 2021 (UTC)


The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
This is for your really thorough clean up after the Armenian genocide move discussion. My watchlist is full of your edits since days. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:20, 30 May 2021 (UTC)


The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
Thank you! Biggerj1 (talk) 15:57, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

that's for these hacks:

The Minor barnstar
SO MANY MINOR EDITS! Thank you for your work. -ASHEIOU (THEY/THEM • TALK) 19:46, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
There we go again, commenting on the quantity of my edits instead of the quality. But minor thanks anyway. Dicklyon (talk) 00:23, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

New topics

Add new topics at the bottom please.


Happy New Year!

Sydney welcomes 2025 with midnight fireworks over the Sydney Harbour Bridge

To all my talk friends. Dicklyon (talk) 02:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Note

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Indian_Panthers

(you had experience with user who does not understand ref policy) 93.143.126.159 (talk) 23:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't understand why you object to having a ref on that final sentence of the paragraph, or what policy you think is being violated there. Dicklyon (talk) 00:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)