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| == Blocked == | |||
| =truth award to Merecat= | |||
| I have blocked you indefinitely for sockpuppetry () to evade your arbcom ] not to edit ], and for other disruptive behavior. As you are aware, a request to reopen your case to consider this most recent behavior has been placed at ]. You've had ample time to respond to it and have chosen not to; if you change your mind and wish to respond to the case you may email any arbitrator via the "E-mail this user" link. · ]]] <sup>]</sup>/<small>]</small> 19:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| <div><div><br><br><br><br> ]</div><div style=":text-align: left; background-color: rgb(199, 225, 223);" align=center valign="middle"><font face=verdana color=#005829 size=3>Hey </font><font color=""></font>To <font face=Verdana color=#3F0C66 size=3>'''Merecat'''</font>, <font face=Verdana color=#1A560C size=3>'''the editor with the best heart and the steadiest and truest and keenest of vision'''</font>..<font face=Verdana color=#0D0D77 size=3>You are hereby awarded</font> <font face=Verdana color=#0E5776 size=3>'''the truth, justice and all around goodnesss award'''</font>, <font face=Verdana color=#0D0D77 size=2>by noneother than the infamous and much misaligned</font> <font color=green>''Maggie''</font>thewolfstar <font face=Verdana color=#4F274F size=3>who delivers it to you directly from the heart, and in much respect and love.</font><br><br>'''''We are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead, nor to tolerate any error so long as reason is left free to combat it'''''.<br>''Thomas Jefferson''</div></div>] 06:22, 7 May 2006 (UTC)<br><br> | |||
| ==Take MindSpillage's advice== | |||
| == Hey == | |||
| Get a new IP from you IP service provider, get a new account and don't log into merecat account again (the IP blocking will automatically block it again). You're edits were obviously not disruptive until the anonymous IP AfD vote stacking by both sides. (BTW, the deletion of the article is vindication, if you hadn't alerted editors, only the ''keep'' side would have been stacking and I doubt anyone would have complained). --] 23:44, 13 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::This obsession, by this editor, to defend Merecat at all costs, and in doing so misrepresenting the facts, is getting tedious and suspiciuous. Only the ''delete''-crowd were vote-stacking. In response to this overtly disruptive behaviour I informed others also, although in hindsight not a smart move. To claim I was vote-stacking seriously ignores the numerous invitations already spread by Merecat and Morton. Please, keep your facts straight.] ]] 11:46, 14 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Why doesn't he just edit from his Rex account and just respect the 4 arbcom decisions against him and just not edit ]? He didn't get banned for unruly behavior, he got banned for sockpuppetry and violating the ban on JK. --] 00:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Hey I check it out looks like the AFD wil go through this time. Also Hope you recover from the 'crash' soon. ] 14:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Kizzle, if you are so in love with Rex, why are you stting on the sidelines and letting me get tagged with the Rex name as a pejorative? You should be out there fighting for the good name of Rex. If not, please quit with the "we miss you, please come back" crap. Merecat is not Rex. ] 08:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::There's only one arbcom ruling still in force. Since he's been editing JK for 6 months without disruption, I would say that makes him a pretty good editor on JK and he should continue as a different user just as MindSpillage suggested. What makes the punishment not fit the crime is that Merecat has been editing for six months without incident. On an article not related to any ArbCom ruling he apparently uses an anon IP to alert other users about an AfD. This makes some users run a checkuser on the IP. It is "likely" Rex although there doesn't appear to be hard evidence. So the other editors use the other article ArbCom ruling (even though there was no disruption to the article) to get him banned. It's wikilawyering to the Nth degree and defeats the entire purpose of Misplaced Pages. It's like getting a lifetime sentence because your third strike was trespassing. The complaining editors have been out to get Merecat for a long time. They've finally succeeded (so they think). I just hope he comes back to fight this injustice. The irony is that his last act (getting the Bush article deleted) was upheld by the community. In the end, he was right.--] 00:59, 14 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Tbeatty, you have been the best in your observations, thank you. But, as far as the Bush article goes, it's not deleted, only redirected. Please follow up and make sure the article actually gets deleted. If you don't, Nescio will eventually delete the redirect. As for Ryan, you would do better to not talk to him/her. He/she's trying to accuse you of being "Rex" and before you know it, you'll get banned too. Frankly, I am really laughing about this whole thing in that the phoniness of the entire banning process is a joke. If "likely" means "confirmed", why don't the accusers show their evidence? Personally, I think it's pretty clear that the "Rex071404" account is inactive and should be deleted. However, some here want to keep stoking the bogeyman of "rex" to tag conservative editors with. And if there is going to be blame for the Rex account placed on me, then my opinion on that point should be determinative. They can't have it both ways. They can't say "merecat = rex" and then refuse to abide merecat when merecat says "delete the rex account". Even so, I won't hold my breath waiting for this type of logical consistency on that point. Suffice it to say, he's the score: Merecat won the RfC, Merecat won Prometheuspan's RfAr, Merecat won the AfD on the Bush article. Now, do you think that would have been possible, if "Rex" was the subject of those things? Likely not. The hypocrisy around this place reeks sometimes. Early on in this dispute, Nescio did a 5RR as an anon, then did a WP:ANI report against me, claiming it was me, but he then edited his own anon post with his user name, thereby revealing it was him. What happened to him for that? Nothing. Why? Because some here have both their eyes on the same side of their head and can only see in one direction - left. As for other user names, I won't comment, so those who hope for/resent the return of merecat, will just have to keep guessing. Ryan has a plan for that though - a complete and total user-based ban of whoever it was that was Rex (and is now contended to be merecat). However, if I am not mistaken, I am also being blamed for being Bigdaddy too! Har! What a hoot. Perhaps they want to say that I am also Michael and the Communist Vandal as well? What a crock. As for Ryan, since this is still my page, I took the liberty of striking his/her comments. Anyway, I am more than happy to answer any ArbCom case which is addressed to me - Merecat. However, since there is none underway, I have nothing to answer to. See if you can get me a hearing on my banishment with the arbcom. I am Merecat and am happy to answer for Merecat. Also, as for "Mindspillage", I see no comments from him. T, put a link here to anything you want me to read. Regards, ] 08:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Accusing you of having a sockpuppet == | |||
| ]--] 16:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Tbeatty, please stop. Get another hobby (besides retroactively defending and advising trolls on circumventing process). -- ] ] 03:02, 14 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Merecat == | |||
| I'm so sorry about everything these low lives are doing to you. I didn't even know you were blocked last night, never mind all the horrible stuff they are doing to you now. I have some friends in here, you have a lot of friends, plus there's a lot of help I can get you in other ways. They're not going to get away with any of this. I have enough dirt on them now to hang them in a court of law. It's that bad. We'll get you out of here. Hang in there, friend. ''Maggie''] 21:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Please do not make legal threats, they are a bannable offense. Thanks! -- ] ] 21:26, 4 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::You're welcome. ] 23:00, 4 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: | |||
| ::What will you do now that Merecat is gone? --] 03:09, 14 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Off-wiki personal attacks poll == | |||
| :::<sub>(Ryan will keep an obsessed lookout for any evil socks who may be "rex" ] 08:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC))</sub> | |||
| ::::Was about to ask you the same question. Me, I plan to edit encyclopedia articles. -- ] ] 03:11, 14 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Since you have previously participated in discussions about the off-wiki NPA policy, I wanted to let you know about a quick opinion poll that is now posted on the Talk page there. Your input is appreciated! | |||
| == Merecat requests unblocking 2 == | |||
| * ] | |||
| ] 21:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Katefan0 has blocked me without a finding of fact and in excess of any sanctions which some contend might apply regarding ] editing and for other invalid reasons. This is out of process and inappropriate. ] 08:39, 14 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ** A discussion concerning editors and especially admins that lie and pull dirty tactical maneuvers to hurt people is underway now too. ] 22:58, 4 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : As Katefan0 suggests email and arbitor, I'm sure they'll do what is appropriate if Katefan0 overstepped the mark. --]<sup>(])</sup> 11:34, 14 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==]== | |||
| Hello, | |||
| An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: ]. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, ]. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, ]. | |||
| On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --] 00:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for the invitation Tony. However, right now I am all talked out. I am going to wait and see how this ] concludes, and based on what happens with that, I'll likely step back and re-evaluate my role here. Typically, I have better serenity when I avoid going to every fight I'm invited to and I'd like to do that here. I think ] said it well when he said "Can we all just get along?" and I wish that were the case here. Still, I did not appreciate you and Cyde blocking me for "talk page spamming" aka "vote stacking" and it's got me in a sourpuss mood. I'm going to take an extended weekend and see if I can get myself to take a fresh look at my incoming talk messages here some time before the end of next week. ] 01:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Check this out== | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents See Ryan trying to sideline you by making false accusations. ] 07:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Merecat - if in fact you're not Rex/Anon Texan, please say so. -- ] ] 13:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ryan, as my "away message" above (posted for tony) makes clear, I am not here until later next week - and that's especially true for controversies. However, so as to me sure precisely what it is you are asking me to deny, I've made a page for you here: ]. Please post for me with reasonable specificity, precisely what is you are asking me to deny. Frankly Ryan, based on the treatment you've meted out to me so far in our dealings, I have little enthusiasm for you leading me around by the nose and I am particularly interested to know how it is you've accreted to yourself a role of inquisitor towards me. That said, even though I am only peeking at this page once a day or so (if that even) until later next week, I frankly want to deny you any opportunity to point a finger of blame based on me making a delayed reply or answering with silence. So even though you are clearly disregarding my away message, I made that sub page for you. Please show me enough courtesy to accuse me with specificity on the page I have provided and also show me the courtesy of respecting my away message. Later next week, after the ] closes and my head has cleared, I will address all reasonable complaints or inquiries you have posted for me at ]. This invitation extends only to you - my regular talk page stands as my in box for everyone else. I hope this compromise suffices for you. Thank you for leaving me the right to be away from my keyboard here until later next week. I appreciate your consideration. ] 16:15, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I will respond here, not on your subpage. I accuse you of nothing. I asked you whether the checkuser results are accurate, and whether you are indeed Rex. Just answer the question. -- ] ] 17:20, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::I didn't realize that you had such authority to demand answers of anyone. --] 19:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::No more than any other editor. Do you have a point besides attacking me for asking a simple, and easily answered, question regarding the likelihood that this is a sockpuppet employed by a blocked user? -- ] ] 19:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I attacked you?--] 19:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::I'm not taking the bait. My question implied no authority. Don't imply I'm acting inappropriately when I am not. -- ] ] 19:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::I implied nothing. You have confirmed that you have no authority and that Merecat can simply ignore your requests without consequence or peril. --] 20:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::I'm curious - of whom on Misplaced Pages is that not true? -- ] ] 21:02, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::I don't know. But I thought someone might have thought it was you after the question you asked. Thanks for clarifying!.--] 22:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::Don't be snarky, if a checkuser finds that merecat is Rex, she has a right to ask that. --] 03:23, 6 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| im a little bit upset what is happing around you catching my attention since have you seen monitoring the wolfstar.you are kind person and i dont believe you are vandalizing some pages. i hope they fix this problem soon.]]5May2006(Utc) | |||
| == Blocked == | |||
| I have blocked you for a week for violating your arbcom parole on editing ]. · ]]] <sup>]</sup>/<small>]</small> 20:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Now that a request has been filed to reopen the Rex case, I've lifted your block so you can respond to it on the arbitration pages. · ]]] <sup>]</sup>/<small>]</small> 00:18, 6 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == ArbCom request to reopen== | |||
| I am notifying you of my pending request to reopen your 4th RfAr ( ). Please keep an eye on ] and I will notify you again when I've made the actual request (I'm trying to be absolutely certain of the process, in order to ensure the issue is addressed fairly). -- ] ] 22:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I have made the request . -- ] ] 00:14, 6 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| =from thewolfstar= | |||
| Hey, Merecat there's a vote going on concerning Wiki admins being able to censor what editors say off Misplaced Pages, and possibly use it punitively against other editors. Please go here to vote on this policy. Thanks ''Maggie''] 23:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == ... == | |||
| are you rex? if you are, you know we had a good chat right before you took off last time, don't ruin it. i want to know the truth. --] 00:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == hey you again from thewolfstar == | |||
| Hey Merecat, I'm sorry you're so bummed. I know the feeling well, believe me. And I'm sorry I wasn't there for you a couple of nights ago when you were blocked. I was on Wiki part of the time and off it a lot, too. You know if I knew you were blocked I would have been here talking to you calmly. Yesterday, after all the bad stuff that happened to you I went a little ape shit and got blocked myself twice in one day. I am starting to listen to all the good guidance you gave me, though. It is beginning to settle in. Please don't let a few snivelling spoilt children drive you away from Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages needs you. I need you. And many many people here need you, as well. Some of them know it and some do not, I'm sure. | |||
| Remember how you told me once that truth is a self perpetuating force? | |||
| The depth of your statement is just beginning to sink in. | |||
| Damn the torpedoes.<br> | |||
| Please don't leave us, Merecat. We need you. love and peace from Grasshopper.. ''Maggie''] 03:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| = Merecat = | |||
| Hey Merecat, | |||
| I know you never wanted to communicate through emails, but I don't know how else to let you know how important to me you are. You are my best friend on Misplaced Pages. You're my mentor. You're a great power of example to everyone you meet, I would imagine. | |||
| I know you are a good trusting person and a true Christian. That much is clear. Sometimes and many times, I have trusted people, groups, that I shouldn't have trusted. And I got burnt bad. There is something really wrong going on here but I know in my heart we can fix it. A lot of people are starting to speak up now. There is a real strength beginning now. Many people have been abused by the system and are getting royally pissed. | |||
| We have a lot of back up now and it will only get stronger. Remember what you said about truth..how it is self perpetuating? And it is. And it is happening as I write this. | |||
| Don't give up the fight. Don't let them win! Here's a song that Jerry G. Sweeton Jr. left on my page for me yesterday while I was blocked. | |||
| ''Don't Quit'' | |||
| ''When things go wrong, As they sometimes will, When the road you're trudging seems all uphill, When the funds are low and the debts are high, And you want to smile, But you have to sigh, When care is pressing you down a bit Rest if you must, But Don't You Quit! | |||
| Life is strange with its twists and turns, As every one of us sometimes learns, And many a fellow turns about When he might have won had he stuck it out. Don't give up through the pace seems slow You may succeed with another blow. | |||
| Often the goal is nearer than It seems to a faint and faltering man Often the struggler has given up When he might have captured the victor's cup And he learned too late when the night came down How close he was to the golden crown. | |||
| Success is failure turned inside out The silver tint of the clouds of doubt, And you never can tell how close you are, It may be near when it seems afar So stick to the fight when you're hardest hit It's when things seem the worst That You Mustn't Quit!'' | |||
| ~unknown~ | |||
| Remember what you said to me, also, "''If you quit now they win.''". | |||
| I really love you, Merecat for your good and true friendship to me, for your unfaltering love of your fellow man, and for your dedication to truth and love and God. Please don't leave. Your friend, ''Maggie'' thewolfstar | |||
Latest revision as of 23:59, 17 February 2023
Blocked
I have blocked you indefinitely for sockpuppetry (checkuser) to evade your arbcom decision not to edit John Kerry, and for other disruptive behavior. As you are aware, a request to reopen your case to consider this most recent behavior has been placed at WP:RFAr. You've had ample time to respond to it and have chosen not to; if you change your mind and wish to respond to the case you may email any arbitrator via the "E-mail this user" link. · Katefan0 /poll 19:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Take MindSpillage's advice
Get a new IP from you IP service provider, get a new account and don't log into merecat account again (the IP blocking will automatically block it again). You're edits were obviously not disruptive until the anonymous IP AfD vote stacking by both sides. (BTW, the deletion of the article is vindication, if you hadn't alerted editors, only the keep side would have been stacking and I doubt anyone would have complained). --Tbeatty 23:44, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- This obsession, by this editor, to defend Merecat at all costs, and in doing so misrepresenting the facts, is getting tedious and suspiciuous. Only the delete-crowd were vote-stacking. In response to this overtly disruptive behaviour I informed others also, although in hindsight not a smart move. To claim I was vote-stacking seriously ignores the numerous invitations already spread by Merecat and Morton. Please, keep your facts straight.
Nomen Nescio 11:46, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- This obsession, by this editor, to defend Merecat at all costs, and in doing so misrepresenting the facts, is getting tedious and suspiciuous. Only the delete-crowd were vote-stacking. In response to this overtly disruptive behaviour I informed others also, although in hindsight not a smart move. To claim I was vote-stacking seriously ignores the numerous invitations already spread by Merecat and Morton. Please, keep your facts straight.
- Why doesn't he just edit from his Rex account and just respect the 4 arbcom decisions against him and just not edit John Kerry? He didn't get banned for unruly behavior, he got banned for sockpuppetry and violating the ban on JK. --kizzle 00:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Kizzle, if you are so in love with Rex, why are you stting on the sidelines and letting me get tagged with the Rex name as a pejorative? You should be out there fighting for the good name of Rex. If not, please quit with the "we miss you, please come back" crap. Merecat is not Rex. Merecat 08:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- There's only one arbcom ruling still in force. Since he's been editing JK for 6 months without disruption, I would say that makes him a pretty good editor on JK and he should continue as a different user just as MindSpillage suggested. What makes the punishment not fit the crime is that Merecat has been editing for six months without incident. On an article not related to any ArbCom ruling he apparently uses an anon IP to alert other users about an AfD. This makes some users run a checkuser on the IP. It is "likely" Rex although there doesn't appear to be hard evidence. So the other editors use the other article ArbCom ruling (even though there was no disruption to the article) to get him banned. It's wikilawyering to the Nth degree and defeats the entire purpose of Misplaced Pages. It's like getting a lifetime sentence because your third strike was trespassing. The complaining editors have been out to get Merecat for a long time. They've finally succeeded (so they think). I just hope he comes back to fight this injustice. The irony is that his last act (getting the Bush article deleted) was upheld by the community. In the end, he was right.--Tbeatty 00:59, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Tbeatty, you have been the best in your observations, thank you. But, as far as the Bush article goes, it's not deleted, only redirected. Please follow up and make sure the article actually gets deleted. If you don't, Nescio will eventually delete the redirect. As for Ryan, you would do better to not talk to him/her. He/she's trying to accuse you of being "Rex" and before you know it, you'll get banned too. Frankly, I am really laughing about this whole thing in that the phoniness of the entire banning process is a joke. If "likely" means "confirmed", why don't the accusers show their evidence? Personally, I think it's pretty clear that the "Rex071404" account is inactive and should be deleted. However, some here want to keep stoking the bogeyman of "rex" to tag conservative editors with. And if there is going to be blame for the Rex account placed on me, then my opinion on that point should be determinative. They can't have it both ways. They can't say "merecat = rex" and then refuse to abide merecat when merecat says "delete the rex account". Even so, I won't hold my breath waiting for this type of logical consistency on that point. Suffice it to say, he's the score: Merecat won the RfC, Merecat won Prometheuspan's RfAr, Merecat won the AfD on the Bush article. Now, do you think that would have been possible, if "Rex" was the subject of those things? Likely not. The hypocrisy around this place reeks sometimes. Early on in this dispute, Nescio did a 5RR as an anon, then did a WP:ANI report against me, claiming it was me, but he then edited his own anon post with his user name, thereby revealing it was him. What happened to him for that? Nothing. Why? Because some here have both their eyes on the same side of their head and can only see in one direction - left. As for other user names, I won't comment, so those who hope for/resent the return of merecat, will just have to keep guessing. Ryan has a plan for that though - a complete and total user-based ban of whoever it was that was Rex (and is now contended to be merecat). However, if I am not mistaken, I am also being blamed for being Bigdaddy too! Har! What a hoot. Perhaps they want to say that I am also Michael and the Communist Vandal as well? What a crock. As for Ryan, since this is still my page, I took the liberty of striking his/her comments. Anyway, I am more than happy to answer any ArbCom case which is addressed to me - Merecat. However, since there is none underway, I have nothing to answer to. See if you can get me a hearing on my banishment with the arbcom. I am Merecat and am happy to answer for Merecat. Also, as for "Mindspillage", I see no comments from him. T, put a link here to anything you want me to read. Regards, Merecat 08:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- Tbeatty, please stop. Get another hobby (besides retroactively defending and advising trolls on circumventing process). -- User:RyanFreisling @ 03:02, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- What will you do now that Merecat is gone? --Tbeatty 03:09, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- (Ryan will keep an obsessed lookout for any evil socks who may be "rex" Merecat 08:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC))
- What will you do now that Merecat is gone? --Tbeatty 03:09, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- Was about to ask you the same question. Me, I plan to edit encyclopedia articles. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 03:11, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Merecat requests unblocking 2
Katefan0 has blocked me without a finding of fact and in excess of any sanctions which some contend might apply regarding John Kerry editing and for other invalid reasons. This is out of process and inappropriate. Merecat 08:39, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- As Katefan0 suggests email and arbitor, I'm sure they'll do what is appropriate if Katefan0 overstepped the mark. --pgk 11:34, 14 May 2006 (UTC)