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== Musical works ==


== Gestapo? ==
As I just heard Peter Seller's single "Any old iron" from August 1957 on Richard Todd's "Classic Retro Countdown Show" I wonder why no section has been made on Peter Seller's recorded works. ] (]) 16:26, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

‘When he was told he could come on as someone else, he appeared dressed as a member of the Gestapo.’


What?
:It is: reference is made within the text when he recorded his various albums. See also ] for a full listing of all his work. - ] (] • ]) 16:58, 30 August 2012 (UTC)


What Sellers did on Parkinson was perform an excerpt portraying the oddball New York character who wrote the musical ‘Springtime For Hitler’ which was the production featured in ]
== New image ==


== Surname at birth ==
WW, please don't take my reversion personally, but I remember there being some issues with it. How do we know this was taken in the States? What is its PD status in Europe? -- '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 09:12, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
== Where is the 'Personal' section? ==


Was Peter Sellers' birth name Richard Henry Seller or Richard Henry Seller'''s'''? I'm seeing some sources state that the "s" was only added later. ] <sub>(] / ])</sub> 00:11, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Adding it. Expand it if you want.--] (]) 05:17, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
:Please do not add a separate section. The consensus on this page is that there is no need for one. The information about Sellers's personal life are in the main body of the text, running chronologically through, alongside his career details. As his career affected his personal life greatly (and vice versa), it was considered that this was the best approach at the time. - ] (]) 05:34, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
:: I don't see the harm. Every other article has one. This seems like slight censorship.--] (]) 10:27, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
::I wouldn't call it ''slight'' censorship, since '''everyone''' who has tried to even remotely change the structure of the article to do things like group personal things together, tighten up narrative flow, etc., has had their changes unilaterally reverted. But, if the only way this article can reach consensus is by forcing this hodge-podge grouping of personal details within career notes, I would suggest just leaving it alone and letting the status quo reign. ] (]) 02:50, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
:::Same old people saying the same old things. The wider community expressed its opinion through a number of channels already mentioned below and this is ground that has been gone over before. The consensus was to retain the chronological flow through the article as with Sellers his personal and private lives affected each other greatly - and that is what is reflected in this FA level article. I'll also add that your previous edits did not improve the article, they worsened it. You and WW are probably the only editors who consider to be an improvement, which speaks volumes in itself. - ] (]) 07:24, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
::::Maybe it's late in the evening, but that's still no excuse for making a completely fabricated statement and ridiculous opinion about what we consider an improvement. We didn't write that. --] (]) 08:19, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::You're entirely right WW, there is no excuse for childishly accusing people of censorship. (There is nothing fabricated in what I wrote, btw, but you are right that it was an opinion and no, I didn't think either of you wrote it) - ] (]) 08:25, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


:I checked the birth index and he was registered under Richard Henry Seller. His first two marriages (to Aspinwall-Howe and Ekland/Eklund) and his death are registered under the names Peter Sellers and Richard Henry Seller. I looked for his parents marriage and they married under the names William Seller and Agnes Doreen Ayres formerly Marks (I ordered it to make sure they were the right people). While his birth name is indeed Seller not Sellers, his parents deaths both appear to be under Sellers and his children are all registered as Sellers (Victoria's mothers maiden name is Ekland not Eklund as well.)
:It used to be , but was dissolved into the career section by a unanimous consensus of 2 new editors over 1.--] (]) 05:45, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
:I hope this information is helpful (I can go into more detail if you're interested)
:] (]) 13:53, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


== Missing from the Filmography ==
::'''And''' those who commented at Peer Review, '''and''' those who commented at FAC '''and''' a number of others too. So glad you've let go of this tiresome issue so gracefully. - ] (]) 05:52, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
::: Glad to see others share my view that this article 'needs' a personal section. Misplaced Pages isn't a biography nor a resume --] (]) 10:31, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
::::One other person shares your view. The wider view of the community was that the article as it is currently constituted is such that a personal section is not needed, with all the information already in the article in two locations. - ] (]) 10:51, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::I agree with SchroCat, having a personal life section here leaves the article disjointed. Please leave it as it is and '''do not''' add a personal life section. Please bear in mind that any major structural changes to this article could void its FA status. -- '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 11:03, 15 November 2012 (UTC)


Is there any particular reason why the 1968 Film - The Party - is missing from the Filmography section of the Article?
::::Not only does an article about a famous actor ''need'' a "personal life" section, the large majority of actor bios has one. In fact, Schrocat before he and Cassianto unilaterally chose to eliminate it, which was observed created a "hodge-podge" paragraph structure.


Has anyone complained about him playing an Indian Actor in body makeup? ] (]) 22:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
::::However, once some editors decide to play Caesar, "]," revised to "eliminare" instead of "vici", that's that. Yet as the top box of this talk page states, "even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so." --] (]) 19:09, 15 November 2012 (UTC)


== Summary of Changes ==
:::::It doesn't need one: that's only your opinion, and it wasn't supported by the peer review, FAC or the 101 RfCs you opened. It didn't create a "hodge-podge" paragraph structure, again that was your opinion only and not supported by the PR, FAC, or 101 RfCs and your dredging up old, stale and tiresome arguments which were not supported first time round just seems a little odd. I really don't know why you feel the need to impress your own POV on the structure of this article, particularly when the consensus says otherwise, but your lack of ability to work in a consensual or collegiate way is probably why this article languished in such a poor state before its re-write: it's now an FA, not the B-grade you so happily championed, so I suggest you get over it and move on. - ] (]) 19:22, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::Here! Here! -- '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 02:23, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


1. Inclusion of birth name in infobox (Richard Henry Sellers).
== Is this "Feature Article" incomprehensible? ==
2. Two references have dead links (fixed one and replaced the other with a different citation and changed the sentence with information from alternate citation).
3. Added influence sentence to lead. ] (]) 09:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)


:Hi ], thanks for bringing this to the talk page. However, at this point some of your changes have been ] by multiple editors, so it would be best to seek ] for those. ] (]) 04:20, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
According to dozens of readers who took the time to rate this revised article, they consider it both "incomprehensible" and "heavily biased," not a great opinion for a "featured article." However, the from June had a rating of around 3.5, as I recall. In any case, to avoid embarrassing WP, maybe a review of the current and previous version, although not great, would be worthwhile for comparison. A ''new'' consensus as to whether we '''keep''' the current version or '''revert and improve''' the earlier one, despite the recent peer review, seems logical. My opinion is implied. --] (]) 02:18, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
:What an excellent suggestion: take a featured article and revert it to a useless B-grade piece of hagiography which missed most of the key information, was poorly written, with infringing images, that was confusing, poorly referenced and that relied overly on '''your''' POV to whitewash anything negative. Brilliant. - ] (]) 06:34, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
::As per SchroCat. Your views count for nothing here Wikiwatcher. I deliberated for an hour over whether I should post a response to your outrageously rude and distorted comment. In short, I couldn't ignore it. May I remind you that Sellers received '''seven''' ] and '''one''' oppose (from you I might add), so the consensus has already been reached. Your obvious contempt for this article is shared by no one I'm afraid and your constant berating of this article had become boring long ago. Get a grip on reality; Sellers' FA is here to stay and if you don't like it then go troll somewhere else. -- '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 08:06, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Gestapo?

‘When he was told he could come on as someone else, he appeared dressed as a member of the Gestapo.’

What?

What Sellers did on Parkinson was perform an excerpt portraying the oddball New York character who wrote the musical ‘Springtime For Hitler’ which was the production featured in The Producers (musical)

Surname at birth

Was Peter Sellers' birth name Richard Henry Seller or Richard Henry Sellers? I'm seeing some sources state that the "s" was only added later. HapHaxion (talk / contribs) 00:11, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I checked the birth index and he was registered under Richard Henry Seller. His first two marriages (to Aspinwall-Howe and Ekland/Eklund) and his death are registered under the names Peter Sellers and Richard Henry Seller. I looked for his parents marriage and they married under the names William Seller and Agnes Doreen Ayres formerly Marks (I ordered it to make sure they were the right people). While his birth name is indeed Seller not Sellers, his parents deaths both appear to be under Sellers and his children are all registered as Sellers (Victoria's mothers maiden name is Ekland not Eklund as well.)
I hope this information is helpful (I can go into more detail if you're interested)
Spamwebster (talk) 13:53, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Missing from the Filmography

Is there any particular reason why the 1968 Film - The Party - is missing from the Filmography section of the Article?

Has anyone complained about him playing an Indian Actor in body makeup? Steve s brook (talk) 22:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Summary of Changes

1. Inclusion of birth name in infobox (Richard Henry Sellers). 2. Two references have dead links (fixed one and replaced the other with a different citation and changed the sentence with information from alternate citation). 3. Added influence sentence to lead. Chirpy-slirpy-BURPY (talk) 09:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi Chirpy-slirpy-BURPY, thanks for bringing this to the talk page. However, at this point some of your changes have been reverted by multiple editors, so it would be best to seek consensus for those. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:20, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
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