Misplaced Pages

:Bot requests: Difference between revisions - Misplaced Pages

Article snapshot taken from Wikipedia with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.
Browse history interactively← Previous editContent deleted Content addedVisualWikitext
Revision as of 21:34, 3 January 2013 editPigsonthewing (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Event coordinators, Extended confirmed users, Page movers, File movers, IP block exemptions, New page reviewers, Pending changes reviewers, Rollbackers, Template editors266,334 editsm →Mark a lot of pages for microformatting: fix← Previous edit Latest revision as of 20:00, 7 January 2025 edit undoLDW5432 (talk | contribs)237 edits →Tagging Category:Cinema of Israel: ReplyTag: Reply 
Line 1: Line 1:
{{Short description|Page for bot requests}}
{{Misplaced Pages programs}}
{{pp-move-indef}}
{{Misplaced Pages:Bot requests/Header}}
<!-- {{Backlog}}-->
{{/Header}}
{{bots|deny=Qwerfjkl (bot)}}
<!-- Lowercase Sigma bot is needed to make OneClickArchiver work, since that doesn't work with ClueBot. ClueBot is needed to archive done requests with {{BOTREQ|done}}, since the Sigma bot doesn't support this.

Tragic that two archiving bots are needed... -->
{{User:MiszaBot/config
|archive = Misplaced Pages:Bot requests/Archive %(counter)d
|algo=old(90d)
|counter = 87
|maxarchivesize = 300K
|minthreadsleft = 0
|minthreadstoarchive = 1
|archiveheader = {{Aan}}
}}
{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis {{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis
|archiveprefix=Misplaced Pages:Bot requests/Archive |archiveprefix=Misplaced Pages:Bot requests/Archive
|archivenow=<nowiki>{{archive now}},{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveNow}}</nowiki>
|age=1440
|header={{aan}}
|maxarchsize=300000
|minkeepthreads=0
|numberstart=74
|format= %%i |format= %%i
|age=168
|index=no
|minarchthreads=0
|minkeepthreads=5
|header=<nowiki>{{Talkarchive}}</nowiki>
|headerlevel=2
|nogenerateindex=0
|maxkeepthreads=0
|maxkeepbytes=0
|maxarchsize=150000
|numberstart=23
}} }}
<!-- <!--
Line 22: Line 32:
--> -->


== Basketball biography infobox request ==
== List of WikiProjects ==


On the ], all instances of {{para|HOF_player}} and {{para|HOF_coach}} should just be {{para|HOF}} as there is no actual difference between the two. The issue can be seen on ] where both parameters are used and link to the same page. ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 19:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
I am preparing the research within ''wikigroups''. I need a list of WikiProjects, would it be possible to send me (you can use e-mail) a list of pages (would be nice one pagename per line) which starts at '''Misplaced Pages:WikiProject~''' ? I will sort out subpages manually, or if you can remove them would be nice. I guess each pagename which has '''/''' is not needed.--] (]) 18:00, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
:] appears to not hold to that trend, so it would appear that it is not true to say "all" instances must be changed. I will also note that there are only of both parameters even appearing in the same article, so this is too small a task for a bot (try ] or just tweak things manually). ] (]) 20:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
:] (or ) is what you are looking for? -- ] (]) 18:05, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
::I meant that even single instances of {{para|HOF_player}} and {{para|HOF_coach}} should be moved to {{para|HOF}}, allowing the removal of the first two parameters within the infobox itself. ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 20:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::The problem here is that although there are several of us that can tell you what the WikiProjects are, the naming isn't standard among them. Some start with WikiProject, Some with WP, some have names like Maths project or US Roads WikiProject. Additionally there are many variations of some with a large number of redirects. What this means is that although its fairly easy to identify 99% of the projects, doing any sort of analysis on them becomes much much harder due to the lack of standardization. ] (]) 22:22, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
:::If the other two parameters are reasonable alternate parameters, it would make more sense to have them as alternate parameters rather than edit every page using any single parameter. ] (]) 20:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Actually most of the ''projects'' (if not all) do start with Misplaced Pages:WikiProject, even the templates there are only about three that are non-standard, Maths Rating, US Roads WikiProject and Canada Roads WikiProject, by memory, though there are a zillion redirects, as you say. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>01:08, 25 December 2012 (UTC).</small><br />
::::They are redundant as they both link to the same exact page as there is no official designation between being inducted as a player or coach into the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 20:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::Good to know, there are just 3 projects without "standard" name.--] (]) 13:42, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::And yet, Bill Sharman uses both parameters with different values in them. The might have the same base URL, but clearly the ''values'' passed to them can be different. ] (]) 20:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
: This] may be what you are looking for. <font color="navy">— ] (])</font> 22:06, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::Actually, it does seem like there are separate pages to represent an inductee's playing and coaching accomplishments despite there being no official difference between the two, as per ]. In that case, I suppose there must be more of a consensus to merge/remove the parameters before this can be implemented. ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 21:04, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::Well its better than the category list, which is not complete by the means I cant get a full list on one page. This I can sort much easier. Looking on that number (2087) its much higher than the ]. Is that a real number of WikiProjects? Even those, which are abandoned? --] (]) 13:42, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
:: also shows the WikiProjects and their associated redirects if applicable. ] (]) 22:24, 24 December 2012 (UTC) :::::::Marking for the table above that this {{BOTREQ|advertise}} ] (]) 14:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Looking on that, I would not know, how to sort it out and get just project names from that.--] (]) 13:42, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
:For the full list you will need someone to use the API to return all non-redirect pages in Misplaced Pages space with a prefix of WikiProject and fileter out the subpages, or scan a database dump in the same manner. I had a quick go with AWB but it is limited to fetching the first 25000 pages. I don't download database dumps since I can't make much constructive use of them thanks to the certain people, or I would run a scan for you. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>01:18, 25 December 2012 (UTC).</small><br />


== Replacing FastilyBot ==
::Thank you Richard, I think I will use that Project index to get the full list. But one small related question. Can bot read project participants even from page history?--] (]) 13:42, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
:::In principle, yes. However I can see little (not zero, but little) use in knowing who has left certain projects. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>21:31, 29 December 2012 (UTC).</small><br />


Now that {{np|Fastily}} has retired, {{np|FastilyBot}} is no longer running. Any chance of a replacement? On the bot's deleted userpage, one can see that it ran 17 tasks and updated 31 database reports. ]] 14:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
We're discussing ], where the issue of non-standard banner templates has arisen. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 14:44, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
:I have written code to update ten database reports. – ] <small>(])</small> 14:48, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
::I have restored the userpage to ] for tracking purposes. If anyone needs any of the code from any of the subpages, please let me know. ] (]) 14:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
::I am taking over the following database reports: 4, 11, 12, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 26, 28, 29, 30, and 31. – ] <small>(])</small> 17:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
:::], given the availability of the sql queries https://github.com/fastily/fastilybot-toolforge/tree/master/scripts, it might be better to convert the pages to usse {{T|Database report}}.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732040084467:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;]] 18:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</span>
::::I second this suggestion for database reports. I converted ] (number 18 on the list) to use {{tl|database report}}, and after fixing a couple of bonehead oversights on my part, it is working well and more functional than the previous report. – ] (]) 22:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::I have spent time writing code to update these database reports. There are some config files for certain database reports, so I have included functionality to exclude files from the report that transclude any templates or belong to any category listed in the config file. Database reports cannot do that, but I have no problem if you all want to use SDZeroBot's database reports. – ] <small>(])</small> 03:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::], I agree that if it's not possible or feasible to use {{T|Database report}}, it makes sense for you to handle it; but where we can, it's nice to have some kind of standardisation for the reports.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732124051655:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;]] 17:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</span>
:I'll look into taking over the deletion discussion notifier. ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 16:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
::{{BOTREQ|brfa|DatBot 12}} ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 23:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
* except for database reports, let me know if I can help with any other task. —usernamekiran ] 17:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
*:Since I'm heavily invested in the file namespace, tasks 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15, and 17 are relevant for my work. ]] 00:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
*::I would strongly second that tasks, 1-2, 4-12, and 14-17 are more or less essential for keeping this area running smoothly. — ]&nbsp;<sub>]</sub> 03:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
*:::alright. So what tasks are remaining now? —usernamekiran ] 12:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
*::::Tasks 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15 and 17 are still pending. If my assistance is needed with any task, I would be happy to help with some of them. – ] <small>(])</small> 13:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
*:::::{{re|DreamRimmer}} I think {{u|Explicit}} is going to take over tasks 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 15, and 17. What I mean is, first we should make it clear who is going to tackle which task, before spending time working on it. —usernamekiran ] 14:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
*::::::Nope, I'm clueless in this area. Those are the tasks are the ones I would like to have kept going. ]] 14:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
*:::::::Is the code for these tasks available somewhere? It might be fairly simple to get it up and running again.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732124341240:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;]] 17:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</span>
*::::::::Looks like it's availabe at https://github.com/fastily/fastilybot/blob/main/fastilybot/bots.py.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732124464896:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;]] 17:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</span>
*:::::::::There are also some config pages on-wiki, I think I managed to undelete them all but if one is missing let me know. ] (]) 14:08, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
*:::::::Since no one is taking these, I am going to take over two tasks, Task 4 and 10. I will code these from scratch and file a BRFA in a few hours. – ] <small>(])</small> 07:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
*::::::::{{BOTREQ|brfa|DreamRimmer bot 2}} and {{BOTREQ|brfa|DreamRimmer bot 3}}. – ] <small>(])</small> 10:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
===Current progress===
Just creating a table below for a quick idea of which tasks (based on ]) are being handled. Please add {{5~}} at the bottom if you update things. ] (]) 12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
{| class="wikitable"
! Original task !! Description !! New Task
|-
| ] || Replace {{tlx|Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}, for local files which are already on Commons, with {{tlx|Now Commons}}.
| ]
|-
| ] || Remove {{tlx|Copy to Wikimedia Commons}} from ineligible files.
| ]
|-
| ] || ] on malformed ] pages.
| ]
|-
| ] || Add {{tlx|Wrong-license}} to files with conflicting (free & non-free) licensing information.
| ]
|-
| ] || Replace {{tlx|Now Commons}}, for local files which are nominated for deletion on Commons, with {{tlx|Nominated for deletion on Commons}}.
| ]
|-
| ] || Replace {{tlx|Nominated for deletion on Commons}}, for local files which have been deleted on Commons, with {{tlx|Deleted on Commons}}.
| ]
|-
| ] || Remove {{tlx|Nominated for deletion on Commons}} from files which are no longer nominated for deletion on Commons.
| ]
|-
| ] || Fill in missing <code>date</code> parameter for ] usages of {{tlx|Now Commons}}.
|
|-
| ] || Post various database ] to ].
|
|-
| ] || Remove instances of {{Tlx|FFDC}} which reference files that are no longer being discussed at ].
| ]
|-
| ] || Remove {{Tlx|Now Commons}} from file description pages which also translcude {{Tlx|Keep local}}
| ]
|-
| ] || Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are ].
| ]
|-
| ] || Remove {{tlx|Orphan image}} from ] files which are not orphaned.
| ]
|-
| ] || Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are ].
| ]
|-
| ] || Add {{tlx|Orphan image}} to orphaned free files.
| ]
|-
| ] || Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are ].
| ]
|-
| ] || Leave courtesy notifications for article authors (who were not notified) when their contributions are proposed for deletion.
| ]
|}
12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
:Hi. Since nobody's taking them, I'm gonna try working on tasks 5 and 15. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 02:15, 17 December 2024 (UTC)


:Thanks for volunteering :) – ] <small>(])</small> 03:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
== Removal of comments ==
:updated task 17 with KiranBOT 14. —usernamekiran ] 23:37, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
{{archive top|There is obviously no consensus for the removal of these comments, so this is not a suitable matter for bot edits. ] ] 07:54, 27 December 2012 (UTC)}}
:I've claimed the malformed SPI task. My bot will be an ] for this task and not require BRFA because it will just report malformed SPIs to ], which will then be displayed on the malformed SPIs page in projectspace through a template and Lua module, similar to my AfC bot (botreq by JJPMaster below). ] <sup>]]</sup> 06:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
A number of articles include the comment:
::Completed & running continously (it watches RecentChanges) on Toolforge :) See ]. ] <sup>]]</sup> 08:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
: working on FastilyBot 5 "add {{tlx|Wrong-license}} to files", will file BRFA when code is ready. —usernamekiran ] 03:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== Deletion of navboxes at ] ==
{{quote|<nowiki><!-- please do not add an infobox, per ]--></nowiki>}}


{{Collapsible list
Not only is this against the ], but it is explicitly contrary to the ]. Can someone with a bot remove all instances, please? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
| title = List of templates for deletion at ]
:I can't find any such articles using a regular Misplaced Pages search. Could you please give some examples? Thanks! ] (]) 15:22, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]
::By the way, ] provides a link to ], which states "current consensus among project participants holds that the use of biographical infoboxes is often counterproductive on biographies of classical musicians, including conductors and instrumentalists and that they should not be used without first obtaining consensus on the article's talk page." Should the guidelines be updated to reflect the RfC first? Thanks! ] (]) 15:26, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]
:::Also, is there consensus to remove this comment from each article? ] (]) 16:27, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]
::::Consensus at the cited RfC is that "WikiProjects are free to publish guidelines and recommendations but do not have the authority to override a local consensus on the talk page of an article." Thus, the comments do not reflect the will of the community. From the examples I've seen, such comments pre-date that RfC. For example, the Vivaldi article mentioned below had it {{Diff|Antonio Vivaldi|126557505|126498821|added on 28 April 2007‎}}; the RfC ran Feb-April 2010. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 16:32, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]
:::Almost certainly. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 16:32, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]
::Regular searching doesn't find comments; that's why script assisted editing is needed. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 16:32, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]

| ]
Requested at IRC -wikipedia to add: ] which is the results of a running dump scan . ] (]) 15:53, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]
:Ah, ] contains <nowiki><!-- please do not add an infobox, per ]--></nowiki>. ] (]) 16:27, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]
:Thank you. That's 363 articles, by my reckoning. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 16:33, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]

| ]
Please additionally note that the script continues to run, but the 363 <s>fugure</s> <u>figure</u> (insert- may or...) may not update. ] (]) 17:16, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]
:I can take this one, under my ] as per above, I'll replace it with nothing and will wait until the database scan is complete to process it in one go. ]]] 17:39, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]

| ]
See: ]. ] (]) 03:39, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]

| ]
: Given all the prior discussion about composer infoboxes, including the RfC, it ought to have been obvious to everybody from the start that the removal of these comments was not going to have consensus. This includes the requester, who definitely ought to have known better. Most of the edits made by Thehelpfulbot have in the meantime been reverted by various other editors. ] ] 07:54, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]
{{archive bottom}}
| ]

| ]
Note: The comments are now being discussed at ]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 13:48, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]

| ]
== Assessment ==
| ]

| ]
Hi everyone. I realize there already is a bot, ], used for this upon request, but how about a bot that will automatically assess talk pages with the banners of WikiProjects based on the article or page's subject, links, or such. This is useful because it helps WikiProject statistics maintain their accuracy, and I notice that there are a number of articles without assessments from relevant WikiProjects. This is different that the DodoBot because it will add assessments without a request, and most will not bother requesting banners be placed and it will save some time, although I am not sure how it will effect each other. I'd be more than happy to work on this type of bot myself, but would like the opinion of others as well, and, of course, am just thinking out loud. Thanks, and happy holidays! <font face="Impact">]]]</font> <sup>(])</sup> 02:33, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]
:Just a note but Dodobot and I think all the other bots that did assessments are down. Dodobot hasn't edited since last year. ] (]) 02:37, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]

| ]
== Resolving multilanguage pages ==
| ]

| ]
It happened a few times that I found a wikipedia page in a language with links to others that weren't consistent.
| ]
Let say the English version of the page has German, French and Polish. It happens that the French version of the page only has German and English.
| ]

| ]
My bot idea is to automatically add the link to the Polish version in the French version.
| ]

| ]
I wonder if such a bot already exists or not and if the numerous interwiki bots already do this or not. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:38, 30 December 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
| ]
: That sounds like exactly what all the numerous interwiki bots already do. Also note that we here cannot give you permission to run a bot on frwiki, you'd need to go to ] (or get approved as a ]) for that. ]] 13:55, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]

| ]
== Pennsylvania State Routes navbox ==
| ]

| ]
It would be great if a bot could do this.
| ]

| ]

| ]
For every article about a state route in Pennsylvania:
| ]

| ]
:Add the template ] to the bottom
| ]

| ]
<sup>]</sup> ] <sub>]</sub> 17:03, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]
:That's quite a big navbox you have there. Is there consensus to add this new navbox to hundreds of articles? (If not, maybe ] and/or ] would be a place to start.) Thanks! ] (]) 18:09, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
| ]

| ]
== Italics for ship names ==
| ]

| ]
I have been doing this for a while, being a little OCD, but I realize that a bot would be much better at this job then I would do. This is definitely for the bot programmer who likes a challenge.
| ]

| ]
I am trying to italicize the titles of the various ships and ship classes titles found on this site. The titles of ships are weird. Their prefixes are not italicized, while the name of the ship/class is in italicizes. Take for example USS ''Enterprise''. I have been making some of these changes like this one .
| ]

| ]
Here are some of the complications:
| ]
*Some ships, but not all ships, under this template will already be italicized using this template {{tl|Infobox ship begin}}. This template will only italicize some of the ships but not others.
| ]
*Some pages like the ] use the {{tl|DISPLAYTITLE}} template italicize its title, while others like ] use this template, {{tl|Italic title prefixed}}.
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
| ]
}}
Requesting for bot help to nominate 156 navboxes for deletion (listed above). These navboxes are for teams that finished lower than third place in the Olympic basketball tournaments. Such templates are subject to ] and were previously deleted per ], ], ], and March 29, 2019 (], ] and ]) discussions (to name a few). – ] 17:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{small|Maybe one day I'll complete ] and things like this will be much easier.}}<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732123946046:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt">—&nbsp;]] 17:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</span>
::It is very easy to list these templates at TFD as a batch. Someone with AWB should be able to help you apply the correct TFD template to all of them. Notification of the templates' creators might also be not-too-hard with AWB, especially if you provide a list of those editors. – ] (]) 22:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
:Ill tag them, if I could get the editors users ill notify as well. {{working}} with AWB. ] (]) 23:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
::{{u|Geardona}}, have you completed this task? Thanks! (I'm trying to sort out all the discussions and either make the bot to do them, or close them). ] <sup>]]</sup> 04:45, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


== Bulk remove "link will display the full calendar" from articles about calendar years ==
The main ship categories that have not been italicized are the ship classes. ] but their are many ships within the vast number of categories of the ] category in itself is not complete. Thanks for your help. ] (]) 15:19, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


There are presumably hundreds of articles about calendar years (for example, ]) that contain the text "link will display the full calendar".
== Mark a lot of pages for microformatting ==


I believe this text violates the spirit of ], specifically:
Could a bot be run to apply {{tl|Start date}} to pages using {{tl|Infobox NRHP}}? I'm envisioning the bot editing every page whose infobox has a single year in the template's |built= parameter to envelop the year in the template, similar to what was done in . According to its documentation, the purpose of the template is to improve microformatting without affecting the appearance of the article. From my experience with this template, I believe that a substantial majority of the template's ] will have a single date in this parameter, although some will have multiple years or a range of years, and a few will have a blank parameter or no parameter at all. In these cases, nothing should be done. ] (]) 23:37, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
: I '''support''' this whole-heartedly; and it could also apply to other templates, and to templates with a year/month date or a full date (see ]); but breaking it into manageable chunks is a good way to get started. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 23:50, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
:So basically if the value in {{para|built}} is a 4 digit number, encase it in {{tlx|start date}}? I can file a request for that in a few days. ] (]) 08:36, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
::For the first stage, yes. The second would be where the value is ''only'' a month and year (e.g. "November 1901" convert to, e.g., <code><nowiki>{{Start date|1901|11}}</nowiki></code>. the third and final stage, full dates, is obviously more complex. A list of other affected templates is at ]. Note that Dates before the year 1583 AD (or after 9999) should not be converted. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 13:16, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
:::I don't fully understand the value of using the startdate template. I have <s>two</s>three questions or possibly objections to starting with a bot run very quickly:
:::1. The startdate template could probably be applied within the NRHP infobox template. It does not need to be changed in any of the NRHP articles at all, does it? Assuming that the arguments which appear in NRHP infobox date fields, usually either of format YYYY or of format Month DD, YYYY, are acceptable to the startdate template, the startdate template can be applied by just one central modification of the NRHP infobox code.
:::::If the startdate template is to be applied only to entries of format YYYY, I expect the wikimedia code for the NRHP infobox could handle that, as a conditional application. It would be better to do this in the infobox code, centrally, too, if only for reason of saving all those keystrokes in articles. And the unnecessary edits of new and old editors changing perfectly good info, manually. This comment applies to all the other infoboxes being mentioned above: change the code in their infobox templates, not in all of the articles using the infoboxes. --]]] 19:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
:::2. If it is to be applied by a bot to all the NRHP articles using the NRHP infobox (about 40,000), for some reason, why apply it to just the "built =" field? The built= field is actually not present in every NRHP infobox. The "added=" field is present in nearly 100% of the infoboxes, and is the date of NRHP listing. In most cases it will be filled in with a date like "January 1, 2000", but sometimes it may have just a year, for example in articles that editor Daniel Case created (he happens to think the month and day information is excessive). And also there "designated_nrhp_type = January 1, 2000", "designated_nrhp_type2 = ", "designated_nrhp_type3= ", and "designated_nrhp_type4=" fields that are date fields and that are sometimes present. If a bot is run, it should probably cover them all at once.
:::3. I also note that the "startdate" is confusing as a term, especially for use in the built= field for the NRHP infobox. In some cases the year-date given there is a start-and-end year-date for construction. In other cases it is a start date while there exists a later completion date, not provided in the infobox. In other cases it is the completion date, and not a start date at all. In other cases it is the date of some significant other event, and is not a built date at all. I wonder, before this is applied by a bot to many thousands of articles, could the term be changed to show something else? Could/should it be called "cssdate" instead? or "mfdate", rather than "startdate"? This has not been used in NRHP articles previously, and I for one do not appreciate its merit yet. Even if it does have merit, then perhaps it could be done better with a different name or changed in some other way to avoid a lot of future confusion.
:::Thanks, Nyttend, for giving notice about this at ]. I'll comment there too. Perhaps this request should not be implemented without checking there for further discussion, too. --]]] 19:23, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
::::The ] mentioned above may answer some of your questions; note that it comprised an RfC with overwhelming support. {{tl|Start date}} currently has 104,374 transclusions (including NRHP articles); its name doesn't appear to be a problem. It cannot be applied within the Infobox's code, because of the variety of data formats used, as you mention. I have updated the Infobox's documentation to show examples of its use. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 21:23, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


: phrases like "click here" should be avoided In determining what language is most suitable, it may be helpful to imagine writing the article for a print encyclopedia
== Over-enthusiastic Addbot ==


The text "link will display the full calendar" would of course make no sense in a print encyclopedia, so I think it should be deleted. Given the number of articles that this text appears in, this deletion would best be done by a bot. ] (]) 07:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
A bot has subst'ed a TfD notice onto about 3000 talk pages - , . The ] is now closed, so the notice is no longer relevant. Is this something a bot could/should clean up? -- ] (]) 09:12, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
:A total of pages use this wording. – ] <small>(])</small> 07:22, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
::], ], this has been discussed before at ].<span id="Qwerfjkl:1732964905546:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;]] 11:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</span>
:::It has also been raised a number of times at ] including following the linked BOTREQ (], ], ]), all of which were asking to remove it (without reply). Suffice to say, I think per ] there is a general lack of concern about whether this text is removed. Unless there is any significant opposition raised here in the next few days, I would be okay putting in a BRFA to remove the offending text. ] (]) 22:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
::::If it hasn't been done already, I'd also suggest doing a few dozen "by hand" first, to see if that provokes any objection. I don't expect it will. ] (]) 04:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Easy enough to mass-rollback, I just forgot I was planning on doing this. ] (]) 16:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC)


== Province over-capitalization ==
:I believe so. Would replacing the entire substitution with {{tl|OW}} be sufficient? <b><span style="border:2px solid;font-variant:small-caps">]]</span></b> 01:39, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
::Yes, simplest is best. -- ] (]) 07:58, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


See ] and ] (just started). There are over 50,000 articles with over-capitalized ''Province'' since ] that moved all the Iranian province titles to lowercase. Assuming the project discussion doesn't turn up resistance to fixing, many of these would be easily amenable to bot fixing, like the task that ] did for NFL ''Draft'' over-capitalization. ] (]) 18:50, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
== Generate list of ]-related redlinks ==


Actually, there's not much activity at WikiProject Iran, so if anyone wants to see this discussed more, point me at a better place to bring it up. ] (]) 04:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
We need to generate a list of common redlinks linked from ]-related articles. Is it possible for a bot to do this? The articles could be found in a number of ways:
* All articles that have talk pages with <nowiki>{{</nowiki>]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>. These same talk pages can be found in the ]. The bot should search the related articles for redlinks.
* All articles found listed in any category that begins with .
* All articles found in ] and all its sub categories.


I did a bunch of these by hand on Dec. 6 (). No reaction from anyone. ] (]) 04:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
There are probably even more ways of identifying the articles. But if possible we need the bot to dump the list of redlinks into a page: ]. If the list is too long, perhaps break it down by alphabet like: ] or ], ], ]. Then also we would like a list of the top 100 most common redlinks.


{{ping|Bsoyka|DreamRimmer}} Thank you both for volunteering to help if/when we see clear consensus or a closed discussion on this. Does anyone have a good idea how to provoke more response? All I've got so far is silence. The big RM was similarly quiet, with no opposition and just 2 supports. ] (]) 21:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
I don't know if this is possible or feasible. However, it would greatly improve our project's goal of expanding Misplaced Pages's coverage of Ethiopia. Thanks from (]) ] (]) 06:49, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
:This is why bots go through trials; not only does it allow for the bot operator to demonstrate that their bot operates as intended, it gives users the opportunity to give feedback on the task. If this is a potentially contentious task, we can have the bots not mark the edits as minor during the trial to raise more awareness of it prior to acceptance. ] (]) 22:00, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:I believe ] can help you out, though depending on the length of the list, it might be easier/faster just to have a toolserver user run a query for you manually. ] (]) 06:53, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
::Yes, a trial not marked minor is a good idea beyond the bunch I did by hand not marked minor. Are you prepared to approve such a trial? Bsoyka has a bot that's got demonstrated competence at doing such things, while avoiding purely cosmetic edits. ] (]) 02:32, 12 December 2024 (UTC)


I've got no response at the discussion I opened at the project. Is it OK to move forward with bot approval process? ] (]) 19:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
== {{tl|Rayment}} ==


] should have the parameter external links=1 when used as an external link. I have often seen people forget that parameter, and that causes two error messages appear that should only appear when used as a source. ] (]) 21:48, 20 December 2012 (UTC) {{ping|Bsoyka|DreamRimmer}} would either of you be willing to file an RFBA on this now, or should I try to provoke discussion elsewhere? ] (]) 23:39, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
*{{BOTREQ|coding}}--<span style="font: 14px Microsoft YaHei;text-shadow:0 1px 5px #808080">]]</span> 06:19, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


:{{u|Dicklyon}}, you can file a ] yourself if you are seeking approval to use AWB for this. I recommend the easy-brfa.js script linked on the page. :) ] <sup>]]</sup> 03:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
<small>previous comments where archived, I am un-archiving as this is not resolved. ] (]) 19:08, 2 January 2013 (UTC) </small>
* ] was withdrawn by Makecat, however this request is fairly trivial, if the template is below a section called External Links then add the parameter otherwise ignore it. ] (]) 19:08, 2 January 2013 (UTC) ::I am not seeking to use AWB for this, but for someone else to do so. ] (]) 07:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


== Tagging ] ==
== WikiProject tagging request: ] ==


Hello, I would like to kindly request that all articles, categories, files, etc. within the ] be tagged with the newly created ]. This will help streamline efforts to improve the quality and coverage of Israeli cinema-related content on Misplaced Pages.
Hello, ] would like to have a 'bot add the {{]}} banner to jazz-related pages that aren't already tagged. We had already left a request at ] (with more details concerning inheritance; auto-tagging stubs etc.). However, that account does not seem to be very active (which I did not notice at the time I filed the request). (I later left a request for ], before I noticed an older message indicating that MuZemike would be on administrative hiatus.)


Please exclude the following subcategories, as they may include films that are not necessarily Israeli and these categories include biographies (which are not part of WP Film):
The list of relevant categories is located at ], but please note that there are actually '''''three''''' lists of categories at that page; they each need to be tagged slightly differently:
*]
# We need the bot to add <tt><nowiki>{{WikiProject Jazz|album=yes}}</nowiki></tt> to the articles (or rather, the talk pages) within the ] sub-listing
*]
# We need the bot to add <tt><nowiki>{{WikiProject Jazz|song=yes}}</nowiki></tt> to the articles (or rather, the talk pages) within the ] sub-listing
*]
# We need the bot to add <tt><nowiki>{{WikiProject Jazz}}</nowiki></tt> to the articles (or rather, the talk pages) within the ] sub-listing
*]
To the best of my knowledge, ] represents all applicable categories and sub-categories (I deliberately omitted those that are outside the project's scope), so you should not need to worry about sub-category depth or "false positives".
*]
*]
*]
*]
*]


I saw the request above on Belgian films and used it as a template for my request.
FYI in 2010, we had ] perform (essentially) the same request. (See ]). It also added <tt><nowiki>{{WikiProjectBannerShell}}</nowiki></tt> if and when it was able to do so.
Thank you. ] (]) 05:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)


: query with depth of 5 returns 1003 articles. I have checked a few random ones, and they seem fine. @], can you please go through some random articles and let me know if there are any that should be removed from the list? – ] <small>(])</small> 15:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I think we ''do not'' want to inherit <tt>importance=</tt>, only inherit <tt>class=</tt>.
::{{Strikethrough|Hold on with the bot. I need to remove people pages from the category as they aren't supposed to be in the film task force category. I will list a few that should not be included or we can manually remove later--:
::Tel Aviv University
::ICon festival
::Jinni (search engine)
::Kibbutzim College}}
::- ] (]) 20:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::I updated the bot request to not include biographies. If you run it now with the new parameters and exclude the following four pages then everything should be good to be tagged. @]
::Tel Aviv University
::ICon festival
::Jinni (search engine)
::Kibbutzim College
::- ] (]) 21:33, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
:::@]: updated query shows 356 pages. If we remove these four, there will be 352 pages left to edit. Can you please confirm, so that I can tag them? – ] <small>(])</small> 14:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Yes, this is a good list. Please tag them. Thank you. ] (]) 16:19, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Hi, I am finding that the depth isn't high enough to tag many films. Can you run another query on this category? ]
::::And exclude this category: ]
::::- ] (]) 18:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::{{done}} Tagged . – ] <small>(])</small> 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi, thank you for tagging those 334 pages.
::::::In my previous comment, I mentioned that the initial query doesn't have a depth which reaches important articles. The query you ran missed important films like ] and ].
::::::Can you run the query again but on this category: ]
::::::And exclude this category: ]
::::::Thank you.
::::::- ] (]) 16:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@]: Can you please tell me which depth is correct? – ] <small>(])</small> 16:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::: finds the missing films. ] (]) 16:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::There are many articles, such as ] and ], that do not belong to the Cinema of Israel. There are many such articles. If you can provide me with the correct query or a list, I can help. – ] <small>(])</small> 16:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::Hounds of War is made by an Israeli director so it should be included. Some films have Israeli producers. You are correct that the other pages shouldn't be included. I reduced the depth to "2" and it fixes it. . - ] (]) 17:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::@]: This list contains some articles that do not belong to Israeli cinema, and some users have complained about it. The good thing is that I have only tagged a few from the second query. Please create a correct list; otherwise, I will not be able to assist with this. I am going to revert the last few changes. – ] <small>(])</small> 10:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::Do you not want to include foreign films made by Israeli directors and producers? They don't need to be included. ] (]) 20:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


== Bot to simplify "ref name" content ==
I have an additional request, but I am not sure whether it's technically possible, and furthermore I'm not sure whether we have consensus (see ]). I'd be interested in having the 'bot add <tt>needs-infobox=yes</tt> if the article does not have an <tt><nowiki>{{Infobox </nowiki>''foo''<nowiki>}}</nowiki></tt> template; ''or'' if <nowiki>{{WikiProject Jazz}}</nowiki> can inherit this setting from another WikiProject banner, ''or'' it can inherit this setting if the talk page already has <tt><nowiki>{{Infobox requested}}</nowiki></tt>.


I have come across some very long ref names in ref tags, sometimes automatically generated by incorporating the title of the work that is being referenced, which is disfavored by ], which asks that reference names be kept "short and simple" to avoid clutter. A ref name is nothing more than a piece of code by which to identify a reference, and can be as short as "A1" or the like. However, according to this search generously provided by ], {{search link|1=insource:ref insource:/\< *ref *name *= *{76}/}}, there are over 1,600 Misplaced Pages articles containing ref names that are over 75 characters in length, which is ridiculous. I have started hand-fixing these, and that is arduous, and I suspect bot-fixable. I would therefore like a bot that checks each page for ref names over the length of some set number of characters, perhaps something is short as 30 or 40 characters, and where a ref name is excessively long, shorten it to a more reasonable length (that does not match any existing names on the page).
Let me know if I can clarify anything, either leave me a message here or at ].


In the course of this search, I have also come across quite a few ref names that contain complete urls, <nowiki>]</nowiki> terms as would appear in linked text, and various non-standard characters or text usually used for formatting. I would like any instance of brackets, use of "http://" or "https://" or characters outside of the English alphanumeric set of letters, numbers, and basic punctuation to be stripped out or replaced with characters in that set. ] ] 03:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks and Happy New Year, ] ] 15:27, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I'd support bot-shortnening without seeing a demo of it. This seems to be more in the wheelhouse of semi-automated fixes. I'm opened to be convinced though. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] · ] · ] · ]}</span> 03:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:: A ref name is not article text. It is literally just a signal to allow multiple uses of a reference. We could replace every ref name in the encyclopedia with a random string of three or four letters/numbers, so long as each ref name was unique within its article, and it would not change their functionality at all. Granted, there are some projects (like those working on comic book movies) where they craft ref names for more informative purposes, but where this is done, the ref names are never excessively long or made with brackets, URLs, or exotic characters. The only thing an excessively long or convoluted ref name accomplishes is reduce usability and clutter up the Wikitext wherever it is used. ] ] 03:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::See also ] which is an awesome tool for quickly renaming all refs in a given article. -- ]] 04:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: {{re|GreenC}} Does it rename ''all'' of them? I am just concerned about the ridiculous ones (see, e.g., ). ] ] 04:11, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::: (edit conflict) Kudos on the fixes you've done already. One point of ] is that reference names should have semantic value (not, for example "A1" or a random string of characters). It doesn't make the slightest difference to the reader, of course, but makes it easier for human editors to cite the correct source. Are you familiar with ]? I use it to replace reference names like ":0" and "auto1" with reasonably short but meaningful names, and it makes the replacement process a lot easier. It could simplify the task of replacing obscenely long reference names with much shorter ones, although it's still a by-hand tool, not a bot. It only changes the ones you tell it to. --] (]) 04:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: I'll check it out, thanks. However, with thousands of articles having excessively long ref names, there is still likely an advantage for having a bot do some of this lifting. ] ] 04:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::: I might be able to do it manually with this tool, but it does not always actually shorten the name, sometimes it just formats it. This should work on the worst cases, though. ] ] 04:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::I think it should be possible to use the code from RefRenamer in combination with ] to run it semi-automatically.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1735913606012:WikipediaFTTCLNBot_requests" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;]] 14:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)</span>
: Seems like a good example of ] to me. While "Author year" style, for example, will probably work well for types of sources where an author usually only publishes one per year, it won't work all that well for others. And personally I wish people would make more use of naming conventions that are more likely to be globally unique rather than less, often enough I've seen multiple articles on related topics that all cite different articles from a website and, since each only uses one article, the website's name gets used as the ref name, which has led to accidental bad refs if content is copy-pasted between the articles. ]] 15:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::That's a good point about copying to other articles. "Authorlastname" is usually sufficient, if not then "Authorlastname YYYY-MM". Likewise the citation should have {{para|last}} as the first field so it's easy to visually find. I've found these two methods (with RefRenamer) are my current best practice. -- ]] 16:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::: Even so, I think we can all agree that it is bad to have ref names like:
:::* "Legitimate politics : a source of codification between theory and practice: A fundamental study of the uniting unity between politics and jurisprudence"
:::* "urlThe Alkaloids of Tabernanthe iboga. Part IV.1 The Structures of Ibogamine, Ibogaine, Tabernanthine and Voacangine - Journal of the American Chemical Society (ACS Publications)"
:::* "Dr. Coburn Stands for Science:Opposes Congressional efforts to honor debunked author linked to failed global malaria control"
::: That said, I have played around with the ref renamer tool pointed out be ] and ], and I do think that I can use it to handle this task without needing a bot. ] ] 18:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::As such, {{withdrawn}} by requester. ] (]) 14:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC) <small> I have amended the template used in this comment because it was causing errors. The BOTREQ template does not have a "withdrawn" option. ] <sup>]]</sup> 08:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC) </small>
:::: I don't agree those are bad, at least not for the reason you think they are. The second should drop the odd "url" prefix and the third could use a space after the colon if they're going to be titled like that, but if editors of an article find it useful to use the full title of a work as its ref name then 🤷 why should we care? I've seen you ]. ]] 15:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 20:00, 7 January 2025

Page for bot requests
Commonly Requested Bots
Shortcuts For the policy on bot requirements, see WP:BOTREQUIRE.

This is a page for requesting tasks to be done by bots per the bot policy. This is an appropriate place to put ideas for uncontroversial bot tasks, to get early feedback on ideas for bot tasks (controversial or not), and to seek bot operators for bot tasks. Consensus-building discussions requiring large community input (such as request for comments) should normally be held at WP:VPPROP or other relevant pages (such as a WikiProject's talk page).

You can check the "Commonly Requested Bots" box above to see if a suitable bot already exists for the task you have in mind. If you have a question about a particular bot, contact the bot operator directly via their talk page or the bot's talk page. If a bot is acting improperly, follow the guidance outlined in WP:BOTISSUE. For broader issues and general discussion about bots, see the bot noticeboard.

Before making a request, please see the list of frequently denied bots, either because they are too complicated to program, or do not have consensus from the Misplaced Pages community. If you are requesting that a template (such as a WikiProject banner) is added to all pages in a particular category, please be careful to check the category tree for any unwanted subcategories. It is best to give a complete list of categories that should be worked through individually, rather than one category to be analyzed recursively (see example difference).

Alternatives to bot requests

Note to bot operators: The {{BOTREQ}} template can be used to give common responses, and make it easier to keep track of the task's current status. If you complete a request, note that you did with {{BOTREQ|done}}, and archive the request after a few days (WP:1CA is useful here).

Please add your bot requests to the bottom of this page.
Make a new request
# Bot request Status 💬 👥 🙋 Last editor 🕒 (UTC) 🤖 Last botop editor 🕒 (UTC)
1 Basketball biography infobox request Needs wider discussion. 8 3 NotAG on AWB 2025-01-04 14:52 Primefac 2024-11-17 20:44
2 Replacing FastilyBot BRFA filed 30 11 Usernamekiran 2025-01-03 03:59 Usernamekiran 2025-01-03 03:59
3 Deletion of navboxes at Category:Basketball Olympic squad navigational boxes by competition  Working 5 5 MolecularPilot 2025-01-01 04:45 Qwerfjkl 2024-11-20 17:32
4 Bulk remove "link will display the full calendar" from articles about calendar years 6 5 Primefac 2024-12-09 16:31 Primefac 2024-12-09 16:31
5 Province over-capitalization 10 3 Dicklyon 2025-01-01 07:12 Primefac 2024-12-11 22:00
6 Tagging Category:Cinema of Israel  Done 15 2 LDW5432 2025-01-07 20:00 DreamRimmer 2025-01-07 10:27
7 Bot to simplify "ref name" content  Request withdrawn 15 8 MolecularPilot 2025-01-06 08:12 Anomie 2025-01-04 15:10
Legend
  • In the last hour
  • In the last day
  • In the last week
  • In the last month
  • More than one month
Manual settings
When exceptions occur,
please check the setting first.
Bot-related archives
Noticeboard1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19
Bots (talk)1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20
21, 22
Newer discussions at WP:BOTN since April 2021
Bot policy (talk)19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28
29, 30
Pre-2007 archived under Bots (talk)
Bot requests1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20
21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30
31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40
41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50
51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60
61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70
71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80
81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87
Bot requests (talk)1, 2
Newer discussions at WP:BOTN since April 2021
BRFAOld format: 1, 2, 3, 4
New format: Categorized Archive (All subpages)
BRFA (talk)1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
11, 12, 13, 14, 15
Newer discussions at WP:BOTN since April 2021
Bot Approvals Group (talk)1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
BAG Nominations




Basketball biography infobox request

On the basketball biography infobox, all instances of |HOF_player= and |HOF_coach= should just be |HOF= as there is no actual difference between the two. The issue can be seen on Lenny Wilkens where both parameters are used and link to the same page. ~ Dissident93 19:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Bill Sharman appears to not hold to that trend, so it would appear that it is not true to say "all" instances must be changed. I will also note that there are only 79 instances of both parameters even appearing in the same article, so this is too small a task for a bot (try WP:AWBREQ or just tweak things manually). Primefac (talk) 20:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
I meant that even single instances of |HOF_player= and |HOF_coach= should be moved to |HOF=, allowing the removal of the first two parameters within the infobox itself. ~ Dissident93 20:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
If the other two parameters are reasonable alternate parameters, it would make more sense to have them as alternate parameters rather than edit every page using any single parameter. Primefac (talk) 20:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
They are redundant as they both link to the same exact page as there is no official designation between being inducted as a player or coach into the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. ~ Dissident93 20:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
And yet, Bill Sharman uses both parameters with different values in them. The might have the same base URL, but clearly the values passed to them can be different. Primefac (talk) 20:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Actually, it does seem like there are separate pages to represent an inductee's playing and coaching accomplishments despite there being no official difference between the two, as per Bill Sharman. In that case, I suppose there must be more of a consensus to merge/remove the parameters before this can be implemented. ~ Dissident93 21:04, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Marking for the table above that this Needs wider discussion. NotAG on AWB (talk) 14:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Replacing FastilyBot

Now that Fastily has retired, FastilyBot is no longer running. Any chance of a replacement? On the bot's deleted userpage, one can see that it ran 17 tasks and updated 31 database reports. ✗plicit 14:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

I have written code to update ten database reports. – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:48, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
I have restored the userpage to Special:Permalink/1258404221 for tracking purposes. If anyone needs any of the code from any of the subpages, please let me know. Primefac (talk) 14:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
I am taking over the following database reports: 4, 11, 12, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 26, 28, 29, 30, and 31. – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
DreamRimmer, given the availability of the sql queries https://github.com/fastily/fastilybot-toolforge/tree/master/scripts, it might be better to convert the pages to usse {{Database report}}. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
I second this suggestion for database reports. I converted Misplaced Pages:Database reports/Transclusions of non-existent templates (number 18 on the list) to use {{database report}}, and after fixing a couple of bonehead oversights on my part, it is working well and more functional than the previous report. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
I have spent time writing code to update these database reports. There are some config files for certain database reports, so I have included functionality to exclude files from the report that transclude any templates or belong to any category listed in the config file. Database reports cannot do that, but I have no problem if you all want to use SDZeroBot's database reports. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
DreamRimmer, I agree that if it's not possible or feasible to use {{Database report}}, it makes sense for you to handle it; but where we can, it's nice to have some kind of standardisation for the reports. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
I'll look into taking over the deletion discussion notifier. DatGuyContribs 16:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
BRFA filed DatGuyContribs 23:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Current progress

Just creating a table below for a quick idea of which tasks (based on Special:Permalink/1258404221) are being handled. Please add ~~~~~ at the bottom if you update things. Primefac (talk) 12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Original task Description New Task
1 Replace {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}, for local files which are already on Commons, with {{Now Commons}}. CanonNiBot 1
2 Remove {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}} from ineligible files. CanonNiBot 1
3 Report on malformed SPI pages. MolecularBot 4
5 Add {{Wrong-license}} to files with conflicting (free & non-free) licensing information. KiranBOT 15
7 Replace {{Now Commons}}, for local files which are nominated for deletion on Commons, with {{Nominated for deletion on Commons}}. CanonNiBot 1
8 Replace {{Nominated for deletion on Commons}}, for local files which have been deleted on Commons, with {{Deleted on Commons}}. CanonNiBot 1
9 Remove {{Nominated for deletion on Commons}} from files which are no longer nominated for deletion on Commons. CanonNiBot 1
11 Fill in missing date parameter for select usages of {{Now Commons}}.
13 Post various database reports to Misplaced Pages:Database reports.
17 Remove instances of {{FFDC}} which reference files that are no longer being discussed at FfD. KiranBOT 14
15 Remove {{Now Commons}} from file description pages which also translcude {{Keep local}} CanonNiBot 1
14 Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are proposed for deletion. DatBot 12
4 Remove {{Orphan image}} from free files which are not orphaned. DreamRimmer bot 3
6 Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are nominated for dated deletion. DatBot 12
10 Add {{Orphan image}} to orphaned free files. DreamRimmer bot 2
12 Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are nominated for discussion. DatBot 12
16 Leave courtesy notifications for article authors (who were not notified) when their contributions are proposed for deletion. DatBot 12

12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi. Since nobody's taking them, I'm gonna try working on tasks 5 and 15. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 02:15, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for volunteering :) – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
updated task 17 with KiranBOT 14. —usernamekiran (talk) 23:37, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
I've claimed the malformed SPI task. My bot will be an WP:EXEMPTBOT for this task and not require BRFA because it will just report malformed SPIs to User:MolecularBot/MalformedSPIs.json, which will then be displayed on the malformed SPIs page in projectspace through a template and Lua module, similar to my AfC bot (botreq by JJPMaster below). MolecularPilot 06:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Completed & running continously (it watches RecentChanges) on Toolforge :) See Misplaced Pages:Malformed SPI Cases. MolecularPilot 08:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
working on FastilyBot 5 "add {{Wrong-license}} to files", will file BRFA when code is ready. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Deletion of navboxes at Category:Basketball Olympic squad navigational boxes by competition

List of templates for deletion at Category:Basketball Olympic squad navigational boxes by competition

Requesting for bot help to nominate 156 navboxes for deletion (listed above). These navboxes are for teams that finished lower than third place in the Olympic basketball tournaments. Such templates are subject to WP:TCREEP and were previously deleted per May 31, 2021, April 22, 2020, June 7, 2019, and March 29, 2019 (first, second and third) discussions (to name a few). – sbaio 17:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Maybe one day I'll complete User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD and things like this will be much easier.— Qwerfjkltalk 17:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
It is very easy to list these templates at TFD as a batch. Someone with AWB should be able to help you apply the correct TFD template to all of them. Notification of the templates' creators might also be not-too-hard with AWB, especially if you provide a list of those editors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Ill tag them, if I could get the editors users ill notify as well.  Working with AWB. Geardona (talk to me?) 23:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Geardona, have you completed this task? Thanks! (I'm trying to sort out all the discussions and either make the bot to do them, or close them). MolecularPilot 04:45, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Bulk remove "link will display the full calendar" from articles about calendar years

There are presumably hundreds of articles about calendar years (for example, 671) that contain the text "link will display the full calendar".

I believe this text violates the spirit of WP:CLICKHERE, specifically:

phrases like "click here" should be avoided In determining what language is most suitable, it may be helpful to imagine writing the article for a print encyclopedia

The text "link will display the full calendar" would of course make no sense in a print encyclopedia, so I think it should be deleted. Given the number of articles that this text appears in, this deletion would best be done by a bot. Stephen Hui (talk) 07:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

A total of 1562 pages use this wording. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:22, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
DreamRimmer, Stephen Hui, this has been discussed before at Misplaced Pages:Bot requests/Archive 84#(link will display the full calendar). — Qwerfjkltalk 11:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
It has also been raised a number of times at WT:YEARS including following the linked BOTREQ (1, 2, 3), all of which were asking to remove it (without reply). Suffice to say, I think per WP:SILENCE there is a general lack of concern about whether this text is removed. Unless there is any significant opposition raised here in the next few days, I would be okay putting in a BRFA to remove the offending text. Primefac (talk) 22:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
If it hasn't been done already, I'd also suggest doing a few dozen "by hand" first, to see if that provokes any objection. I don't expect it will. Dicklyon (talk) 04:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Easy enough to mass-rollback, I just forgot I was planning on doing this. Primefac (talk) 16:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Province over-capitalization

See WP:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks#50K articles with over-capitalized "Province" and WT:WikiProject Iran#Fixing widespread over-capitalization of "Province" (just started). There are over 50,000 articles with over-capitalized Province since the Jan 2022 multi-RM that moved all the Iranian province titles to lowercase. Assuming the project discussion doesn't turn up resistance to fixing, many of these would be easily amenable to bot fixing, like the task that User:BsoykaBot did for NFL Draft over-capitalization. Dicklyon (talk) 18:50, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Actually, there's not much activity at WikiProject Iran, so if anyone wants to see this discussed more, point me at a better place to bring it up. Dicklyon (talk) 04:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

I did a bunch of these by hand on Dec. 6 (example). No reaction from anyone. Dicklyon (talk) 04:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

@Bsoyka and DreamRimmer: Thank you both for volunteering to help if/when we see clear consensus or a closed discussion on this. Does anyone have a good idea how to provoke more response? All I've got so far is silence. The big RM was similarly quiet, with no opposition and just 2 supports. Dicklyon (talk) 21:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

This is why bots go through trials; not only does it allow for the bot operator to demonstrate that their bot operates as intended, it gives users the opportunity to give feedback on the task. If this is a potentially contentious task, we can have the bots not mark the edits as minor during the trial to raise more awareness of it prior to acceptance. Primefac (talk) 22:00, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Yes, a trial not marked minor is a good idea beyond the bunch I did by hand not marked minor. Are you prepared to approve such a trial? Bsoyka has a bot that's got demonstrated competence at doing such things, while avoiding purely cosmetic edits. Dicklyon (talk) 02:32, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

I've got no response at the discussion I opened at the project. Is it OK to move forward with bot approval process? Dicklyon (talk) 19:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

@Bsoyka and DreamRimmer: would either of you be willing to file an RFBA on this now, or should I try to provoke discussion elsewhere? Dicklyon (talk) 23:39, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Dicklyon, you can file a WP:BRFA yourself if you are seeking approval to use AWB for this. I recommend the easy-brfa.js script linked on the page. :) MolecularPilot 03:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
I am not seeking to use AWB for this, but for someone else to do so. Dicklyon (talk) 07:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Tagging Category:Cinema of Israel

Hello, I would like to kindly request that all articles, categories, files, etc. within the Category:Cinema of Israel be tagged with the newly created Israeli cinema task force. This will help streamline efforts to improve the quality and coverage of Israeli cinema-related content on Misplaced Pages.

Please exclude the following subcategories, as they may include films that are not necessarily Israeli and these categories include biographies (which are not part of WP Film):

I saw the request above on Belgian films and used it as a template for my request. Thank you. LDW5432 (talk) 05:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

This query with depth of 5 returns 1003 articles. I have checked a few random ones, and they seem fine. @LDW5432, can you please go through some random articles and let me know if there are any that should be removed from the list? – DreamRimmer (talk) 15:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Hold on with the bot. I need to remove people pages from the category as they aren't supposed to be in the film task force category. I will list a few that should not be included or we can manually remove later--:
Tel Aviv University
ICon festival
Jinni (search engine)
Kibbutzim College
- LDW5432 (talk) 20:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
I updated the bot request to not include biographies. If you run it now with the new parameters and exclude the following four pages then everything should be good to be tagged. @DreamRimmer
Tel Aviv University
ICon festival
Jinni (search engine)
Kibbutzim College
- LDW5432 (talk) 21:33, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@LDW5432:This updated query shows 356 pages. If we remove these four, there will be 352 pages left to edit. Can you please confirm, so that I can tag them? – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes, this is a good list. Please tag them. Thank you. LDW5432 (talk) 16:19, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi, I am finding that the depth isn't high enough to tag many films. Can you run another query on this category? Category:Israeli films
And exclude this category: Category:Israeli–Palestinian conflict films
- LDW5432 (talk) 18:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
 Done Tagged 334 pages. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi, thank you for tagging those 334 pages.
In my previous comment, I mentioned that the initial query doesn't have a depth which reaches important articles. The query you ran missed important films like Lemon Popsicle and The House on Chelouche Street.
Can you run the query again but on this category: Category:Israeli films
And exclude this category: Category:Israeli–Palestinian conflict films
Thank you.
- LDW5432 (talk) 16:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
@LDW5432: Can you please tell me which depth is correct? – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
This query finds the missing films. LDW5432 (talk) 16:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
There are many articles, such as Hounds of War and Gwen Stacy (Spider-Verse), that do not belong to the Cinema of Israel. There are many such articles. If you can provide me with the correct query or a list, I can help. – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Hounds of War is made by an Israeli director so it should be included. Some films have Israeli producers. You are correct that the other pages shouldn't be included. I reduced the depth to "2" and it fixes it. Query. - LDW5432 (talk) 17:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
@LDW5432: This list contains some articles that do not belong to Israeli cinema, and some users have complained about it. The good thing is that I have only tagged a few from the second query. Please create a correct list; otherwise, I will not be able to assist with this. I am going to revert the last few changes. – DreamRimmer (talk) 10:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Do you not want to include foreign films made by Israeli directors and producers? They don't need to be included. LDW5432 (talk) 20:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Bot to simplify "ref name" content

I have come across some very long ref names in ref tags, sometimes automatically generated by incorporating the title of the work that is being referenced, which is disfavored by WP:REFNAME, which asks that reference names be kept "short and simple" to avoid clutter. A ref name is nothing more than a piece of code by which to identify a reference, and can be as short as "A1" or the like. However, according to this search generously provided by Cryptic, insource:ref insource:/\< *ref *name *= *{76}/, there are over 1,600 Misplaced Pages articles containing ref names that are over 75 characters in length, which is ridiculous. I have started hand-fixing these, and that is arduous, and I suspect bot-fixable. I would therefore like a bot that checks each page for ref names over the length of some set number of characters, perhaps something is short as 30 or 40 characters, and where a ref name is excessively long, shorten it to a more reasonable length (that does not match any existing names on the page).

In the course of this search, I have also come across quite a few ref names that contain complete urls, ] terms as would appear in linked text, and various non-standard characters or text usually used for formatting. I would like any instance of brackets, use of "http://" or "https://" or characters outside of the English alphanumeric set of letters, numbers, and basic punctuation to be stripped out or replaced with characters in that set. BD2412 T 03:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'd support bot-shortnening without seeing a demo of it. This seems to be more in the wheelhouse of semi-automated fixes. I'm opened to be convinced though. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 03:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
A ref name is not article text. It is literally just a signal to allow multiple uses of a reference. We could replace every ref name in the encyclopedia with a random string of three or four letters/numbers, so long as each ref name was unique within its article, and it would not change their functionality at all. Granted, there are some projects (like those working on comic book movies) where they craft ref names for more informative purposes, but where this is done, the ref names are never excessively long or made with brackets, URLs, or exotic characters. The only thing an excessively long or convoluted ref name accomplishes is reduce usability and clutter up the Wikitext wherever it is used. BD2412 T 03:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
See also User:Nardog/RefRenamer-core.js which is an awesome tool for quickly renaming all refs in a given article. -- GreenC 04:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
@GreenC: Does it rename all of them? I am just concerned about the ridiculous ones (see, e.g., this fix). BD2412 T 04:11, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Kudos on the fixes you've done already. One point of WP:REFNAME is that reference names should have semantic value (not, for example "A1" or a random string of characters). It doesn't make the slightest difference to the reader, of course, but makes it easier for human editors to cite the correct source. Are you familiar with RefRenamer? I use it to replace reference names like ":0" and "auto1" with reasonably short but meaningful names, and it makes the replacement process a lot easier. It could simplify the task of replacing obscenely long reference names with much shorter ones, although it's still a by-hand tool, not a bot. It only changes the ones you tell it to. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I'll check it out, thanks. However, with thousands of articles having excessively long ref names, there is still likely an advantage for having a bot do some of this lifting. BD2412 T 04:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I might be able to do it manually with this tool, but it does not always actually shorten the name, sometimes it just formats it. This should work on the worst cases, though. BD2412 T 04:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I think it should be possible to use the code from RefRenamer in combination with Bandersnatch to run it semi-automatically. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Seems like a good example of WP:CONTEXTBOT to me. While "Author year" style, for example, will probably work well for types of sources where an author usually only publishes one per year, it won't work all that well for others. And personally I wish people would make more use of naming conventions that are more likely to be globally unique rather than less, often enough I've seen multiple articles on related topics that all cite different articles from a website and, since each only uses one article, the website's name gets used as the ref name, which has led to accidental bad refs if content is copy-pasted between the articles. Anomie⚔ 15:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
That's a good point about copying to other articles. "Authorlastname" is usually sufficient, if not then "Authorlastname YYYY-MM". Likewise the citation should have |last= as the first field so it's easy to visually find. I've found these two methods (with RefRenamer) are my current best practice. -- GreenC 16:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Even so, I think we can all agree that it is bad to have ref names like:
  • "Legitimate politics : a source of codification between theory and practice: A fundamental study of the uniting unity between politics and jurisprudence"
  • "urlThe Alkaloids of Tabernanthe iboga. Part IV.1 The Structures of Ibogamine, Ibogaine, Tabernanthine and Voacangine - Journal of the American Chemical Society (ACS Publications)"
  • "Dr. Coburn Stands for Science:Opposes Congressional efforts to honor debunked author linked to failed global malaria control"
That said, I have played around with the ref renamer tool pointed out be GreenC and Worldbruce, and I do think that I can use it to handle this task without needing a bot. BD2412 T 18:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
As such,  Request withdrawn by requester. NotAG on AWB (talk) 14:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC) I have amended the template used in this comment because it was causing errors. The BOTREQ template does not have a "withdrawn" option. MolecularPilot 08:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I don't agree those are bad, at least not for the reason you think they are. The second should drop the odd "url" prefix and the third could use a space after the colon if they're going to be titled like that, but if editors of an article find it useful to use the full title of a work as its ref name then 🤷 why should we care? I've seen you insist on doing things that I personally think are stranger. Anomie⚔ 15:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Categories: