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== ] reported by ] (Result: Page protected indef) == | |||
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|List of religious slurs}} | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Declined ) == | |||
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Template:Arguments}} <br /> | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Template talk:Arguments}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Reyk}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Xuangzadoo}} | |||
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# {{diff2|1270068423|19:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (rv, none of that contradicts my edits. There are no sources which call "pajeet" a religious slur directed at Hindus. It's only a religious slur for sikhs. There are no sources which call Chuhras Christians or Hindus, they are muslims. There are no sources which mention "cow piss drinker" originating in the US, it's from South Asia. None of my edits contradict what the talk page says.)" | |||
* 1st revert: 2013-01-01 | |||
# {{diff2|1270041541|16:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (The articles specifically mention "pajeet" as a religious slur directed at sikhs and/or as a racial slur directed at other south asians. There is no mention of "pajeet" being directed as a religious slur at Hindus.)" | |||
* 2nd revert: 2013-01-01 | |||
# {{diff2|1270039369|16:44, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Hindus */ not a religious slur targeted at Hindus, removed" | |||
* 3rd revert: 2013-01-05 | |||
# "The two sources added for "Pajeet" specifically mention that it's directed at Sikhs or at south asians racially, not at Hindus religiously, removed. "Sanghi" does not have a separate mention for Kashmir in any of its sources, removed. Added disambiguating link to Bengali Hindus. Corrected origin of "cow-piss drinker" to the correct country of origin as mentioned in the source. Added further information for "Dothead"." | |||
* 4th revert: 2013-01-05 | |||
# "Undid revision 1269326532 by Sumanuil" | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1270041824|16:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Edit warring on ]." | |||
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# {{diff2|1270040704|16:52, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* 'Anti-Christian slurs' */ cmt" | |||
# {{diff2|1270045411|17:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Kanglu */ add" | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
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All these reverts yet not a single response at the talkpage. - ] (]) 01:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:I am replying here as I'm not sure what you want from me. | |||
{{hat|1=Extended discussion, click to view}} | |||
:Every edit I made is fairly accurate and doesn't contradict or vandalize any of wikipedia's rules. | |||
<u>Comments:</u> From the beginning of this dispute on Template:Arguments, this user has yet to respond to my initial edit comment. The user frequently does not provide edit comments. A review of the talk page discussion, the edit history of the template page, and the edit history of the talk page, shows that the user stipulates that he will not participate in discussion, including, "I will not be sucked into this...argument. The material stays." At one point the user formally withdrew from the discussion and it appeared to be over; but now he insists that since he is being trolled, he can revert both the Template page and the Template talk page and there is no need to reopen the talk page discussion.<br /> | |||
:] (]) 07:29, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:: You are still edit warring without posting at the talkpage. - ] (]) 16:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
] (]) 03:39, 6 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:: More reverts , can someone do something? - ] (]) 01:06, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I'm hearing the sweet sounds of a ] {{diff|Template talk:Arguments|prev|531551497|flying through the room}} here... --] 04:39, 6 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::: {{AN3|p}} I also note the user has been alerted to CTOPS, which I protected the page under, so there will be no room for argument if this behavior continues. ] (]) 23:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Sarek, Your states, "what was that football player's name again?" How is that edit comment related to this discussion? Also, please review the diffs at ] if you have not done so. Regards, ] (]) 17:29, 6 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::What we know after 24 hours is that your viewpoint has not been sustained by the regular admins working here. ] (]) 01:10, 8 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::The ruling that declines to provide sanctions has suggested the benefit of a third opinion. Sarek, will you provide such an opinion, or initiate a request at WP:3O? Thank you, ] (]) 02:36, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Yep... ] (]) 06:07, 6 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: No violation) == | |||
It's probably a mistake to dignify this vexatious complaint with a response, but for the benefit of those playing along at home here is the background. I am a major contributor to the essay ], which Unscintillating disapproves of. Links to it in ] and ] existed for over a year without challenge. After I one of Unscintillating's irrelevant quibbles in a way that did not allow any follow-up trolling, he went around the to remove them. I consider this behaviour to be petty and peevish, and I just reverted him because I have no intention of getting drawn into an argument with him. In any case, it is futile to try to discuss anything with Unscintillating because these are the kinds of responses he gives people who disagree with him: ], ], . | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Battle of Jamrud}} | |||
seems to be the origin of Unscintillating's grudge against me; ] seems to have festering in his mind ever since. I make no secret that I think Unscintillating is trying to troll me. I don't think he should remove material from other pages as retribution for the grudge he holds me. I do not think he should unilaterally close discussions he's involved in in his own favour, particularly not with such a self-serving and dishonest rationale, or call me a vandal for objecting. And now I see he's ]: ]. | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Noorullah21}} | |||
I request that this meritless complaint be closed, and I will consider asking for an interaction ban on Unscintillating commenting on me or ], broadly construed. ] <sub>]</sub> 04:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Reyk, it appears to me that your edits are showing a pattern of ]]. Your belief that your essay "was spun out because it was long enough to constitute a stand-alone essay" is incorrect as documented at , and consistent with a hubris-type of issue. What might help is more effort put into fact checking. No one has called you a vandal, you choose from your own ideation to bring paranoic words into this discussion such as troll, grudge, self-serving, dishonest, vandal, and admin shopping. Regards, ] (]) 02:36, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::I've asked you to leave me alone. Please stop talking about me or to me. Stop following me around to "flag" my comments with your irrelevant twaddle about my edit summaries. Stop inserting your ] about "undermining" the banning policy into unrelated discussions; everyone you've asked has told you you're wrong about it anyway. If you have a problem with ], MfD it now or forever hold your peace. I now consider these matters closed. If you hassle me again, I ''will'' ask for that interaction ban and I will almost certainly get it. ] <sub>]</sub> 03:12, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::The discussion in which you asked me to leave you alone was at DRV and the context was just that one discussion. The post that I made drew attention to an edit comment, and there was no invitation or even suggestion for you to respond. Above in this conversation you make the statement that you found yourself trolled into responding, and that you successfully made a response that left me unable to respond. You seem proud of your skill in this regard. A more-objective viewpoint is that you asked a question, that questions are designed to induce a response, that it was polite for me to respond, and that I did so. Moving forward, in contrast with saying that you wanted to be left alone, you brought the DRV discussion to this AN3 page. In doing so you have successfully recruited the closer of this AN3 section to mention the DRV conversation. Moving forward again, in your world of logic, you are now likely to argue that by making this response I am not leaving you alone and you requested it. ] (]) 03:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::If you don't like the attention that you get as an editor engaged in ] of banning enforcement, then why did you open up the topic in this discussion? If you really don't want to talk about this, you need only make one edit and the issue goes away. ] (]) 03:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::Regarding MfDing your essay, that is fine if someone wants to MfD it, but I have no interest. ] (]) 03:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::Your initial edit in response to the filing here (on your talk page) was to call it "rubbish". Your first edit on this page was to characterize the readers of this discussion as "playing along at home". ] (]) 03:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::See ]. ] (]) 03:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::I'm not even going to dignify the bulk of your diatribe with a response. For someone so obsessed with semantic quibbling, you're remarkably obtuse when it comes to understanding peoples' intentions. Do you do this on purpose? (that's a rhetorical question, the answer is, yes, you do). I will, however, explain once and for all why I will never, under any circumstances, revert myself on that old AfD. | |||
:::::*(1) Because I would be reverting ] as well; my edit was a revert back to theirs. Since I value Penwhale's opinion ] more than yours, I won't be doing that. | |||
:::::*(2) Because here and on ] you are making implied threats to continue hassling me if I don't do as you say. I do not knuckle under to threats, because you'd interpret that as an invitation to make more. Never mind that threatening my reputation with an 18 month old revert is about the most feeble threat I can imagine. | |||
:::::*(3) Because ''nobody'' but you thinks there's anything wrong with that edit of mine. Several other editors have defended me on it when asked. If I were to revert it, that would be making an edit that I know to be wrong, ie. vandalism. And I do not vandalise. | |||
:::::*(4) Because if I can end the "dispute" with one edit, you can end it with zero. By leaving me alone. By the way, it's not a "dispute"; the matter's already been settled in my favour. You being butthurt and continuing to whine endlessly isn't my problem. | |||
:::::Is anyone reading this surprised that I want to be quit of this tiresome windbag? ] <sub>]</sub> 05:47, 11 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:'''Declined''': The link was added more than 1 year ago. It remained in the template for all that time with no comment whatsoever. Following a kerfuffle with Reyk, Unscintillating removed it. This could have been good faith tracking down of what Unscintillating perceived to be a problem, or it could have been being pointy and stalky. Either way, the status quo was the inclusion of the link. As such, Reyk was merely restoring the status quo. At no point did Reyk cross 3RR. Thus, the default assumption is that Unscintillating is the one guilty of edit warring, not Reyk. Since Unscintillating also didn't cross 3RR, and hasn't revered since this was submitted, I won't boomerang this back on him, but at this point it is up to Unscintillating to establish that there has been a change in consensus to remove the link. If one cannot be reached among the two editors themselves, Unscintillating should pursue ], with ] probably being a good first step (unless xe thinks the linked essay is so egregious that it ought to be taken to MfD). If Unscintillating continues to remove the links, that could be grounds for an edit warring block for xyr. ] (]) 05:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: 3 days) == | |||
# {{diff2|1270170387|07:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270112351 by ] (]): No it hasn't, they haven't even given their conclusion, and you again edited the page to revert it.." | |||
# {{diff2|1270112351|00:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270108346 by ] (]): No he doesn't, please take this to the talk page now to be more clear." | |||
# {{diff2|1270108346|23:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270099439 by Noorullah21: "where they too were saved by the arrival of substantial reinforcements. | |||
Akbar Khan broke off the engagement and returned to Jalalabad, leaving | |||
the Sikhs in control of Jamrud, but when he returned to Kabul he claimed | |||
the victory and was given a hero’s welcome. For decades after, this pyrrhic | |||
victory was celebrated annually in the Afghan capital.39" -Lee, (calls it a phyrric Afghan victory), and Hussain isn't on google scholars." | |||
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Louisiana}} <br /> | |||
# {{diff2|1270110872|23:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* January 2025 */ new section" | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|KodaKarr}} | |||
# {{diff2|1270113286|00:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Removal of content, blanking on ]." | |||
# {{diff2|1270205537|12:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Final warning: Removal of content, blanking on ]." | |||
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# {{diff2|1269985195|10:35, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ new section" | |||
# {{diff2|1270115828|00:28, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270117437|00:37, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270123153|01:15, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270124950|01:27, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270128846|01:53, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270130305|02:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270131478|02:08, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270133699|02:23, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Aftermath section */ Reply" | |||
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This is not the first time they are edit warring and breaking 3RR, they were previously warned by an admin . There seems to be a habit of them continuously misinterpreting the sources and pushing certain PoVs. They have opted for 3O by themselves but disagreed with the opinion given. ] 12:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:Im not that involved(haven’t reverted anybody, just made a comment on the talk page). As a word of advice because so many people seem to forget this fact, when your adding disputed content, ONUS is on you to attain consensus. Which hasn’t happened here. | |||
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:It seems that you yourself were also edit warring, except your the one who’s adding disputed content so per ONUS, you were never supposed to revert him to begin with. You need to wait until talk page discussions conclude and gain consensus. ] (]) 15:13, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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::A. The instance you pointed out was an administrator warning me for one revert on the History of India page. (Talking to Indo-Greek, the person who reported and I had a dispute with here..) | |||
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::B. When the individual hasn't concluded their ], you immediately reverted the page again saying they did. There's still a very open discussion with the user... (They've even edited the page most recently!.. I'd also like to remind you ] is non binding even when the opinion is given, meaning whether they say either or is in the right.. the dispute can still continue until a ] can be made. The burden of proof is on you for ] (you also kept readding a non ] source.. (Farrukh Hussain). I pointed out ] as a solution, and you keep reverting the page far before they've given their opinion. Lee... (this is now bringing the argument from the talk page here..) calls it a phyrric victory. ] (]) 16:02, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::I also told said where per ], it's per them to seek Consensus. ] (]) 16:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::I reverted my edit as of now per the edit summary. (the last edit prior to that is the person working on our ]. ] (]) 16:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::This seems like ], but anyways. The admin had warned you for the same edit warring issue, not 1RR. You had asked for 3O which an editor eventually gave one quoting: {{tq|I found a huge contradiction in your quote. You said "Nothing here calls the battle a Sikh victory," but the quote literally says "The Sikhs had beaten the Afghans"}} which was later discarded by you which is fine, but if other editors accusing you for overlooking the source and found you contradicting yourself then you should have been more cautious rather than outrightly reverting my changes. ] 16:56, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Have you not read the rest of the discussion..? the ] is being discussed. | |||
::::You've completely ignored this. | |||
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::::Scroll down! (on the talk page). ] (]) 17:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::I also didn't violate the 3 revert rule. I didn't revert 4 times, I reverted 3 times. Although of course, this seems to be more inclined toward edit warring, which both of us did. | |||
:::::@] has just jumped into the discussion (and they seem to be more in favor of my argument) -- per their most recent talk page msg on the battle of jamrud, which shows a growing consensus on my side? .. Nonetheless, I still find this report baseless. ] (]) 17:35, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::'''Both of us did''' No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through ], don't confuse it with ]. I also think that Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to? The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of ]. ] 19:39, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::What? | |||
:::::::"No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through WP:3RR" -- Yes, I'm talking about myself.. I reverted 3 times, to break the 3rr rule, you have to revert more than three times (i.e 4 times) "An editor must not perform '''more than three reverts''' on a single page" -- I also self reverted per the former. | |||
:::::::"Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to?" -- He responded on the talk page (of the page), he responded here, and he also re-reverted the page. | |||
:::::::'''"The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of WP:MEAT."''' - Are you insinuating @] is a Meatpuppet? Because you've drawn effectively numerous flanks into the air on what this report is really about. | |||
:::::::A. In your edit summary you said the Third opinion was concluded.. (it wasn't.) | |||
:::::::B. You report here for 3rr (when 3rr wasn't violated, and I'm assuming this is more inclined toward edit war..?) | |||
:::::::C. You then throw around Meatpuppet accusations? | |||
:::::::I'm sorry but there's no way this discussion is remaining civil anymore. Did you even read the Meatpuppet page? '''"The term meatpuppet may be seen by some as derogatory and should be used with care, in keeping with Misplaced Pages:Civility. Because of the processes above, it may be counterproductive to directly accuse someone of being a "meatpuppet", and doing so will often only inflame the dispute."''' | |||
:::::::Flinging around accusations of Meatpuppetry clearly breaches ]. ] (]) 20:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::You also did revert it three times.. Shown here: | |||
:::::::: (First time) | |||
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:::::::: (Third Time) ] (]) 20:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::You are again falsely accusing me of breaking 3RR. You do realise that the first revert was more than 24 hours prior than the other two? I don't have much to say here it's quite self explanatory, while this is not the same case with you, where 3RR has been violated in the span of 24 hours. ] 21:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::I'm not accusing you of breaking 3RR, I'm saying you reverted three times. To break 3RR it has to be four reverts. (you have to revert more than three times). Your reverts were also in a 24 hour period. (Or just shy of it?) | |||
::::::::::I didn't revert four times to break 3RR. Where are the diffs of me reverting you four times? ] (]) 21:12, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
{{outdent|10}}{{AN3|noex}} As noted in the ''loooong'' discussion above, which again proves that using the talk page is a much preferable alternative to taking it over here. Also, this is getting a bit stale. ] (]) 12:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Declined) == | |||
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Long term POV SPA editor on this one issue, with a variety of IPs and this account. ]] 16:18, 8 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Next Danish general election }} <br /> | |||
:His only talk page response has been to tell an editor to " ohe, putain. va te faire foutre" - just swearing at them. Clearly not here to improve the encyclopedia and if I weren't involved I would have indefinitely blocked by now. A short term block won't help as he'll just be back. ] (]) 16:35, 8 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Thomediter}} | |||
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And he's at it again... | |||
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Another warning issued ] (]) 19:28, 8 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
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*'''Result:''' Blocked three days for long-term edit warring on the name of the Louisiana governor, ]. He continued to revert while this report was open. ] (]) 14:43, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Editor was and that one more revert would result in them being reported for breaching 3RR. They made the fourth revert immediately after responding to the warning. | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: 1 week) == | |||
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Yoani Sánchez}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Huysmanii}} | |||
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*], I am going to revert your last (fourth) revert; you are indeed edit warring and you're not giving any reasons for your edits, never mind for your ongoing reverts. If you revert one more time you will be blocked. Please don't let it get that far. Seek the talk page. ] (]) 17:40, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::{{AN3|d}} per above and reported editor's inactivity. ] (]) 22:46, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: 48 hours) == | |||
Previous version reverted to: and | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Conor Benn}} <br /> | |||
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|GiggaHigga127}} | |||
* Continued edit warring immediately after this block expired: | |||
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* 7th revert: (different revert to, from | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' – only welterweight in the infobox | |||
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# – re-adding light middleweight and middleweight | |||
# – same | |||
# – same | |||
# – same | |||
# – same, now with PA | |||
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*User was recently blocked for 3RR violations, report is , when their block was up, they and expanded it, . User refuses to admit to the edit warring and is again at the threshold of violating 3RR. User is belligerent, combative and pushy, , and is now ] for support and . ] <small>]</small> 21:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:*{{AN3|n}} Only because Huysmanii has not reverted in 24 hours, I'm giving them a chance to avoid a block. I've left a note on their talk page. If they agree not to edit the article at all for 7 days, they can avoid a block.--] (]) 21:08, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::*Fully agree, good call. ] <small>]</small> 21:21, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|b|1 week}}. Huysmanii not only didn't fully accept the terms but their edit to the article talk page, which I reverted, was extraordinarily disruptive.--] (]) 01:49, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== ] reported by ] (Result: Page protected) == | |||
User:GiggaHigga127 insists on adding the ] and ] divisions to Conor Benn's infobox. Our style guide at WikiProject Boxing, ], says to only include weight classes in which a boxer has ''notably'' competed, that being usually for regional/minor/world titles. In Benn's case, that division was ] for almost the entirety of his career, and he did indeed hold a regional title in that division. In 2023 he was given a lengthy ban from the sport, from which he recently returned in a pair of throwaway fights within the light middleweight limit, against non-notable opposition and with no titles at stake. Per the style guide, those throwaway fights are not important enough to warrant the inclusion of light middleweight in the infobox, at least until he begins competing there regularly. | |||
As far as middleweight goes, Benn has ''never competed anywhere close to that weight class''. He has a fight 'scheduled' to take place at middleweight, but until the bell rings to officially commence proceedings, ] and ] should apply, and again it should not be listed in the infobox until then. This same fight was 'scheduled' in 2023, only to be cancelled after Benn failed a drug test—something which happens in boxing all the time. In fact, at the Project we had ] regarding upcoming fights in record tables, so the same should apply in this instance. ] would also be a cop-out, because the whole point of MOS:BOXING was to ensure consistency across boxing articles. ] (]) 18:50, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Rape during the partition of India}} <br /> | |||
:It continues: , this time with me being called a "melt". I can't imagine what that is, but all the better if it's an insult for obvious reasons. Also, no responses at user talk page. ] (]) 00:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Mrt3366}} | |||
::Predictably, now it's onto block evasion: . NOTHERE. ] (]) 15:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Based on , it could be ] as well. ] (]) 21:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Neither nor. I stand by the revision, but that's where any commonality ends. --] (]) 22:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Of course you stand by the revision. You show up less than 12 hours after Gigga gets blocked, and perform the exact same revert. Dodgy. ] (]) 19:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 24h) == | |||
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Probability and statistics}} | |||
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Logoshimpo}} | |||
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I have asked the user to self revert and he has refused, he is removing a well sourced satement for no reason other than he does not like it. | |||
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::I will not try to justify what I did. I will not say this report is invalid, just consider this that it was not my intention to edit war. but with DS there can be no other way. He has reverted my edits multiple times. See talk. I asked him quote the passage from the book he was referring to, he ignored it and reverted me. Now, if I am guilty then he is too. I will like to notify that I am not going to war over that again so no need to "BLOCK ME". I simply wanted to take it to ANI, but DS did it first. Sorry for the inconvenience. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 13:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:*Furthermore, but all in vain. He didn't even try to prove his point, he just kept on reverting me. I like him and I know he can be a little brusque sometimes. But I know him and value his judgements often. This time it's unfortunate to see that he is being so - what should I say - unreasonable/amateurish. I can only hope that whatever the judgement on me, somebody takes a look into the article. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 14:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Of course you are not going to war over it again, I cannot revert you can I? You need to self revert and discuss your continual removal of a well sourced statement from the article. ] (]) 14:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::Well you suggested to me, ''If you want the article to speak of rapes of Hindus by Muslims then add it to the article.'' I simply followed your advice and balanced the article. What is wrong in that, DS? You are the one who said only ''Rape of Muslim women by Hindu Male'' were "well-documented" but basing on what, DS? Also, that's a highly biased and communal claim. The irony is that the very sources used there do speak of the atrocities and retaliation from ''both'' the communities. Therefore, I asked you to balance it. What did you do in return? You chose to revert me. You can do much better as an editor. There is no animosity between you and me, bro. <p>Besides, its weaselly ''well-documented''ness is your ]. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 14:11, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::No, you removed it. That is not balancing. Just self revert and justify your removal on the talk page. ] (]) 14:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::What's the point, now that I am reported? BTW, I think you need to start justifying yourself first. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 14:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::*{{ec}}Clarification: was not a "revert". I did that as a response to {{t|Disputed}} tag on the article. {{UT|Darkness Shines}} has reverted me 3 times today too (, , ). ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 14:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::Removing sourced content is a revert. You are being given a lot of chances to self revert, yet will not. Why? ] (]) 14:24, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::You don't get it, do you? The source was correct the content was ''not''. The claim was not a fair representation of the source; it is not a revert. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 15:51, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
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*{{AN3|pe}} ] (]) 15:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
The last revert follows talk-page discussion in which two users (including me) have rejected their arguments and no one has agreed with them. Here was their addition to the talk-page before their most recent revert: . ] (]) 17:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{AN3|b|24 hours}} ] (]) 22:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: |
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 36 hours, reporter blocked 24, and page protected for a week) == | ||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks| |
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Nachos}} | ||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|190.46.98.195}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Rauzoi}} | |||
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# {{diff2|1270462611|17:20, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754 vandalized by Crasias" | |||
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## {{diff2|1270459303|17:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | |||
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## {{diff2|1270459938|17:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
# {{diff2|1270456533|16:42, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754" | |||
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## {{diff2|1270375677|06:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754" | |||
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## {{diff2|1270355298|04:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Variations */" | |||
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This is a continuation of a previous edit war, where the editor was subsequently blocked for their actions. From the editors actions and edit summaries it seems apparent that they will not deviate from their behaviour or intepretation of BLP. 3RR has not been reached this time around, however should I, or anybody else, revert him again there's no reason to suspect that it wouldn't be reverted again. | |||
# {{diff2|1270460344|17:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
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The user also shows little civility in dealings with other editors. | |||
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Frequently removing and replacing sourced content that identifies Nachos as "Tex-Mex" rather than "Mexican" ] (]) 17:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:{{AN3|bb}} Rauzoi for 36 hours and Crasias for 24 (one less revert over the limit). ] does not cover this. Furthermore ... | |||
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:{{AN3|p}} Extended-confirmed for a week since, as both editors are autoconfirmed only, they will not be able to resume hostilities once the blocks expire. The talk page hasn't been used in months. ] (]) 23:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked one week) == | |||
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: It takes two to edit war, and there's been a lot of back-and-forth on the phrase "best known for" between various people. I have put in a ] from the ] and three other sources on the talk page, which should hopefully quell this dispute before it goes any further. --] ] ] 17:51, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on wikipedia. The phrase "best known for" is clearly and obviously POV, regardless of whatever reliable sources it might appear in. The attempts to force this completely unnecessary phrase into articles are tantamount to vandalism. ] (]) 18:45, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::You can quote just about any Misplaced Pages policy under the sun, and use it to advance your position, so let me do likewise. If you look at ], you will see the following : "''All articles must strive for verifiable accuracy: unreferenced material may be removed, so please provide references. Editors' personal experiences, interpretations, or opinions do not belong here. That means citing ], ], especially on controversial topics and when the subject is a ]''" That means you should not be in any position to argue for or against the state of an article without providing sources that advance your case. I have provided four sources, you have provided none. Furthermore, if you look a little more closely at one of the ''other'' pillars, you'll notice it says "''Find consensus, avoid edit wars''". Calling other editors "retards" is probably not a good way to get consensus on an issue. | |||
:::All of the above put to one side, here's the situation. You've reverted the article three times today , and , so a further revert today will mean you run the risk of being blocked for violating ]. You should take that at face value. --] ] ] 18:55, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::You're asking me to provide sources for what exactly? I'm changing the opinion "is best known for appearing" to the fact "appeared". What exactly needs sourcing? Fact is, there's an absolute prohibition on including POV material in the encyclopaedia. End of story. Putting it in repeatedly is vandalism. I'm reverting simple vandalism. ] (]) 21:12, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::What you are describing is not vandalism at all. Anyway, you have reverted for a fourth time in 24 hours, which means you may now be blocked per ]. --] ] ] 21:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
*{{ec}} {{AN3|b|1 week}}.--] (]) 21:16, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Sex differences in intelligence}} <br /> | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Sending to WP:AE) == | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|BoneCrushingDog}} | |||
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|List of diplomatic missions of the United Kingdom}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Maurice07}} | |||
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This is a case of long therm edit-warring by Maurice07 on this article and multiple similar articles. He insists on adding Turkey to the european section of multiple embassy-related articles without consensus. This which also shows his massive edit-warring back then and for which . Please see also relevant report at ANI back then: . | |||
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On 3 January he resumes the September edit-warring: and then: | |||
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No warning necessary. This editor is a veteran edit-warrior. This particular edit-warring is a continuation of a massive edit-warring campaign he started in September with the purpose of adding Turkey geographically to Europe. He is acting against consensus. | |||
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This user has been engaged in widespread and long-term edit-warring across many articles and for many reasons. This is just another bout of such behaviour. He also got a warning of tendentious editing under ARBMAC by FPaS recently: which he later . Here is another . ] <small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">]</span></sup></small> 00:40, 7 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> Note that these edits fall squarely under ], and the last (6th) revert was done ''after'' they were . ] (]) 23:23, 19 January 2025 (UTC)<br /> | |||
:I endorse this report, and suggest that in addition to a block, discretionary sanctions be imposed. In addition to a history of edit-warring, this is user is a textbook example of an aggressive, tendentious nationalist editor with minimal positive contributions to the project. Examples of tendentious edits (tag-teaming and edit-warring over a name already mentioned a few lines below) (self-explanatory) (unexplained changes to the figures, all designed to make Greece "smaller" or "poorer") (] removal of relevant See also) (Edit-warring even though the article name is "Tenedos"), (the mere fact that he considers this "irredentist" speaks volumes about mentality) and on it goes. Examples of incivil, aggressive behavior: . Talkpage engagement and content building are next to zero. Activity consists mostly of pushing a narrow nationalist agenda at every opportunity. This is precisely the kind of user these topics do not need. ] (]) 01:09, 7 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|b|one week}}. ] (]) 00:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Page already semi-protected) == | |||
::Thank you for your special attention,'''Dr.K.'''. Hopefully, you should have reported desire to edit war or 3RR warning for '''Aquintero82 ''' and '''Sir Tanx''' To put it plainly, I do not find an objective and impartial your notifications. Your and Greek user Athenean′ contribs on wiki articles,the best proof of it. Also,Far as I know,if three-revert rule ] is repeated within 24 hours ,is a violation.Thank you.--''']''' (]) 01:49, 07 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Exclusive economic zone}} | |||
:::So let me see: You after a report at ANI about your and now you come three months later to restart it without consensus and against two other users who are trying to uphold long-held consensus. And no, you don't have to break 3RR in 24 hours to be reported here. If you noticed this noticeboard is about edit-warring not only the 3RR rule. Given your history of tendentious and longterm edit-warring today's report is fully justified. By trying to shift the blame on other editors I think you are making the best case for your own blocking. As far as your evaluation of my contributions to articles here I honestly think you have no clue what you are talking about but I won't hold that against you. ] <small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">]</span></sup></small> 03:28, 7 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|177.84.58.25}} | |||
::::It's also worth noting if you are reinserting the same material over a spread out time in order to game the processes in place for edit warring it is still a violation. From what it appears this has been a long term pattern of inserting the same type of material against the consensus. that's what it looks like from the outside anyways ] (]) 03:28, 7 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::I restored this report from the archive since it concerns long-term warring at ], and it was not closed by an admin. I asking Maurice07 to agree to wait for consensus on whether Turkey is in Europe before making any further edits on that question. That could be a way of closing the report with no sanctions. ] (]) 18:29, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::Thank you Ed for the action. But as we are about to close this report the same user is involved in two more edit wars at ] and ] where he is cn-tagging Greek as a minority language in Turkey, although it is crystal-clear that there is a Greek-speaking minority in Turkey. It doesn't get any more tendentious than that. Clearly we need an AE action at some point under ARBMAC. ] <small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">]</span></sup></small> 18:44, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I can't speak for Ed, but for me, I'd prefer to see an AE report for ArbMac sanctions. I'm not trying to be process wonky; I just find I'm a little more comfortable imposing AE sanctions when the other AE admins are also having a look at what we're doing. ] ] 03:28, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::::No, not at all. Thank you very much Heimstern for the explanation but I never intended to imply that I was asking for AE enforcement from this board; this is the reason I mentioned above "at some point", meaning not now. I realise that AE sanctions are handled differently and the admins there have different standards. So no pressure on you or Ed. :) But thank you again for your advice. Best regards. ] <small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">]</span></sup></small> 04:31, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
*'''Result:''' Please refile this at ] for consideration of ARBMAC sanctions. Whoever submits the report there can link to the 3RR discussion if you want. ] (]) 04:07, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:*Thank you Ed for your advice and for your notice on my talk. I am afraid I do not have any experience filing AE reports so I will try to gather some stronger evidence before I file. All the best. ] <small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">]</span></sup></small> 04:31, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:::*I don't see any edit war to may be contrary to ]. First,I do not understand latest changes ].Despite of including a to an official in this regard, rejected.It is called ''consensus''! Simply,]. Emotions cannot prevent logic of Misplaced Pages. I see that; Almost, Ever since I attended Misplaced Pages,my works and contributions submitted as evidence. These claims are far from the truth and biased,unfortunately.Also,they contain many contradictions.Issue of ] and ].Add "]" template,constitute a crime? ] acknowledged it as '''propaganda'''. It's so interesting! No:Source and reference.. 150,000 Turkish citizens lives Western Thrace and 25.000 Turks in Xanthi/İskeçe.See: ] and ]. ] is used both articles and more. Historical bonds are not a good factor. Yes,it is also a fact that, 2.500-3.000 Greek citizen lives in ]. There is only explanation: ]. To edit All articles about Greece and the Greek based on self-interest.Have a good night.''']''' (]) 00:17, 11 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== ] reported by ] (Result: 31 hours) == | |||
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## {{diff2|1270540192|01:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Eu não sou essa pessoa que você está a citar eu comecei a alterar essa página essa e a minhas primeiras vezes , eu estou alteração está página porque eu gosto de ver a área da ZEE de cada país um abaixo do outro ." | |||
## {{diff2|1270540659|01:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "I started changing this page today I'm just making changes to this page because I like to see the Zee area of each country in the world, please don't make changes" | |||
## {{diff2|1270541014|01:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "I started changing this page today I'm just making changes to this page because I like to see the Zee area of each country in the world, please don't make changes" | |||
# {{diff2|1270537566|00:56, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Eu não vou mais fazer alteração se deixar o Rankings by area porque eu gosto de Rankings by area" | |||
# {{diff2|1270536155|00:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "ZEE com alteração perfeita" | |||
# {{diff2|1270532750|00:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Alterei o tamanho da zona exclusiva econômica do brasil porque a ZEE aumentou em 2024" | |||
# {{diff2|1270527449|23:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Antes essa página sofreu alteração incorreta, com eu fiz uma alteração mais correta ." | |||
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Deir Yassin massacre}} | |||
# {{diff2|1270537849|00:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule." | |||
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|177.43.87.117}} | |||
'''Time reported:''' 19:29, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
We discover this week that random numbers were changed a while ago. We changed them back and sort of started a discussion ] | |||
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# <small>(edit summary: "The footnoted reference is quoted in full, word for word. NPOV in a WP article requires a fair and neutral summary. If one part of the reference is cited, all the reference must be cited.")</small> | |||
# <small>(edit summary: "Reworded the fourth sentence from the cited footnote to remove any copyright violation.")</small> | |||
# <small>(edit summary: "The cited reference must be cited correctly. The fourth sentence of the citation clearly states that the event remains disputed. If you have other references you wish to add, you are welcome to do so. But do not misstate the actual reference cited.")</small> | |||
# <small>(edit summary:"As I state on the talk page, if you wish to cite other portions of the Gelber citation, please feel free to do so. But the citation clearly says that the event is disputed (sentence 4). The cite must be summarized in full to be fair and balanced")</small> | |||
We are not sure what they are doing...... Think they're mistaken continental shelf for EEZ.<span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">''']'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">]</span> 01:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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*{{AN3|p}} (already semi-protected) ] (]) 06:38, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Already blocked) == | |||
Article under 1RR, has made 3 reverts of 2 editors' edits. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 19:29, 9 January 2013 (UTC)</small> | |||
:Now 4 reverts of 4 other editors. <span style="font-family: Papyrus">] (])</span> 19:45, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|b|31 hours}}.--] (]) 22:27, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Harti}} | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Protected) == | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|2A01:4B00:D10A:6700:C8CB:A681:5BFA:C14D}} | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Kaitlyn (wrestler)}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|75.176.5.95}} | |||
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# {{diff2|1270551103|02:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Enterprisers */" | |||
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# {{diff2|1270550937|02:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Royalty */" | |||
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# {{diff2|1270550061|02:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Enterprisers */" | |||
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## {{diff2|1270549319|02:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Royalty */" | |||
## {{diff2|1270549881|02:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Politicians */" | |||
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# {{diff2|1270550935|02:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Edit Warring */ new section" | |||
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After explaining in edit summary what policies were being broken and why (primarily WP:NOT, MOS & NOTE), and went to editor's talk page to try and give lengthier explanation. Editor started with some good faith discussions but it quickly broke down into "such-and-such page has errors too" and "you're being a dictator". Then editor went and undid whole thing even after agreeing some of their edits were mistakes because they didn't like a dozen or so words. --] (]) 21:37, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|p}}. I've semi-protected the article for one week as both IPs are edit-warring. No comment on the content dispute or who is more "at fault".--] (]) 22:38, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
and again , and | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked for one week by ]) == | |||
*{{AN3|ab}} (/64 blocked for 1 week by {{u|Daniel Case}}) ] (]) 06:41, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 72 hours) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|List of leading shopping streets and districts by city}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|193.92.131.230}} | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Tübingen School}} | |||
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Xpander1}} | |||
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# {{diff2|1270585353|07:15, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 974048061 by ] (]): Self-reverting as per ]" | |||
# {{diff2|1270579742|06:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270517034 by ] (]): Please see the redirect page for adding new edits" | |||
# {{diff2|1270517034|22:40, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270516481 by ] (]): Please avoid making an edit war, I asked you nicely" | |||
# {{diff2|1270516481|22:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | |||
# {{diff2|1270515748|22:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 1270489731 by ] (]): Please add the new sources to ] Best." | |||
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## {{diff2|1270484281|19:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) other editors simply continued my original work, which I respect" | |||
## {{diff2|1270489731|19:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Redirecting page the newly created page" | |||
# {{diff2|1270482597|19:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Restored revision 974048061 by ] (]): Reverting my own edit to contest page creation attribution" | |||
# {{diff2|1270267829|19:07, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | |||
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# {{diff2|1270589185|07:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* January 2025 */ new section" | |||
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# {{diff2|1270588908|07:44, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Page creator attribution */ Reply" | |||
# {{diff2|1270341854|02:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC) on Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Technical requests}} "/* Uncontroversial technical requests */ Decline, this one is more of a histmerge request which would also be declined from ] - I'm happy to explain further on a talk page" | |||
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Extremely aggressive edit warring. Xpander1 had expanded a redirect to a page with no issue but decided it would be better to just create a page, hence a discussion at ]. Editor decided to "redact contribution in protest", initially blanking then resorting to redirecting. ] would assist in reverting these changes with Xpander1 reacting negatively, violating 3RR to get it erased. Editor had created redirects such as ] and ], with ] being where he did a cut-and-paste move from original article. Has no intention to resolve dispute any time soon. <span style="font-family: Georgia; background-color: coral; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">] ]</span> 08:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:All I did was self-reverting, the article had no significant history before my contribution. What you are describing as "copy-pasting", is me putting my own creation in a new page. As I have explained in many places, in the ], and elsewhere. My rationale is very simple, Misplaced Pages must distinguish between '''valid-article-creators''' and '''redirect-page-creators'''. I currently count as the latter. Which don't think is fair. ] (]) 08:49, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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::As for now, the page is currently being attributed to User:Wetman on ] and on the . ] (]) 09:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
The Teahouse discussion can be found (for now) at ]. Please see also ] and ]. ] (]) 09:09, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{AN3|b|72 hours}} , I am mystified—no, make it ''stunned''—that Xpander thinks this edit-warring is justified. In what sense are they not being attributed as the page creator sufficiently for their ego? Do they mean that the ''page creation log'' isn't saying that they are? Uh, that's something the ''software'' does, that by design no one has control over. {{u|Wetman}} is going to get credit for creating the ''page'', yes, as the empty redirect it was apparently quite happy to have been for 15 years. As noted, no editor familiar with how our processes work would doubt that Xpander, in practical terms, created the ''article'' by translating the dewiki article, regardless of what the logs say.<p>Xpander's repeated reversion to the redirect is, frankly, childish behavior that smacks of ]. I strongly remind them ].<p>I also reject their argument that ] shields them as they were merely always "reverting their own edit". Technically that might be arguable, but it is ''inarguable'' that, especially given their statement that ], they did so in a manner calculated to cause ] and interfere with the work of others. To allow this to pass on that basis would be opening up a whole new way to ]. ] (]) 20:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::'''Addendum''': I also commend ] to {{u|Xpander1}}'s attention. ] (]) 22:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 31 hours) == | |||
I also just noticed this user removing the Macedonia content from this article without explanation. ] (]) 23:50, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Oriel High School}} | |||
User has been blocked for edit warring in the past. ] (]) 23:52, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|92.238.20.255}} | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Multiple blocks and protection) == | |||
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Boy Scouts of America}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|AmherstApple}} | |||
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# {{diff2|1270686162|19:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Updated content" | |||
# {{diff2|1270685824|19:18, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Updated content" | |||
# {{diff2|1270685483|19:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Deleted content" | |||
# {{diff2|1270684934|19:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Deleted content" | |||
# {{diff2|1270683674|19:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Deleted content" | |||
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<u>'''Comments''': This IP is trying to censor information in that article --] (]) 19:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)</u> | |||
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*{{AN3|b|31 hours}} ] (]) 19:36, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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*:I undid that block and restored it because simply removing the block isn't really an option in response to actually disruptive editing, but the IP editor's behavior wasn't the main issue in this edit war. I'll send warnings around to people who should know better. ] (]) 19:43, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Stale) == | |||
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'''Page:''' ] <br /> | |||
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Kelvintjy}} | |||
This purportedly brand new user insists that his interpretation of policy trumps the consensus of 3 other editors. He is also doing his best to force in the same material at ]. | |||
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1217491179 | |||
And it should be noted that the one bringing this up never went to the TALK page but TAG teamed to edit without talk. I asked for page protection in hopes someone would TALK. But looking at Belchfires warning history and BAN history shows he is a edit warrior that just keeps attacking until get gets his way. --] (]) 00:44, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:Turns out this is a sockpuppet of ] (indeffed long ago). Case opened at SPI. Carry on. ► ]-] 00:50, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1227039793 | |||
::You mean ? That pertains to ], not to ]. Is there a connection between the two (in your view)?--] (]) 01:16, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1229865081 | |||
:::There is definitely a connection, and it's been verified by CheckUser. See the archived reports: . This is a recurring problem, and I've been reporting using the most recent sockmaster, Sonic2030, because it's familiar to admins due to recent activity. Honestly, there are so many socks at this point that it's hard to know which handle is the primary. ► ]-] 01:24, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230019964 | |||
::::Maybe I'm dim, but I still don't see the connection to Marlin (not in the link you provided). None of this necessarily bears on the merits of the edit-warring report, but Amherst's conduct troubles me mainly because they edited as an IP and then as a registered account. At the same time, if one assumes they're a "new" user, the edit-warring warning came ''after'' their last revert. If it weren't for that one small point, I would have already blocked them. I'll be going off-wiki soon, so if another admin wants to take action, that's fine.--] (]) 02:00, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230184562 | |||
:::::Please look again at the SPI archive, the text is in the December 19 report: ''So I actually have nothing more, I do note that one of these socks has a sock tag for Marlin1975. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 6:51 pm, 20 December 2012, Thursday (20 days ago) (UTC−8)'' | |||
:::::Also, the 3RR warning was the page creation edit, so you have to look at the left-hand side of the diff. The warning was given at ''Revision as of 13:28, 9 January 2013 (edit)'', and the final diff was at ''Latest revision as of 16:30, 9 January 2013 (edit) (undo)''. I may have mucked this up some when I posted the report, but procedurally it's correct. ► ]-] 02:09, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
{{od}} I got this via ]. I blocked Belchfire for a week. This is his second week long EW block. I almost indeffed him. The other two I blocked for 24 hours and the page has been full protected for 10 days. --] | ] 02:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Belchfire blocked based on another report) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Sexuality in Star Trek}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Belchfire}} | |||
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: See July 24th 2024 ''' https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy | |||
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' See "Biased" https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan | |||
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'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy | |||
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the user Kelvintjy has been engaged in another war last summer and was banned from the ] page. He's been pursuing an edit war on the ] page too without daring give explanations on the talk page though he was invited to do it many times. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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*{{AN3|s}} ] (]) 20:03, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:@] you blocked this user from the page ] in Aug. 2024 for the same reasons. ] (]) 12:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:You also block Raoul but later unblocked him after he made his appeal. ] (]) 00:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I don't understand the user always keep targeting me. I am more of a silence contributor. I had seen how the complainant had argue with other contributor in other talk page and after a while the complainant stay silent and not touching certain topic and instead keep making edit on articles related to ] or ]. Now, he is making a lot of edit on ]. ] (]) 05:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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== ] reported by ] (Result: 1RR imposed on article) == | |||
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Elon Musk}} | |||
*As a member of WikiProject Conservatism, Belchfire has targeted ] because it is tagged under the scope of ] due to its discussion of LGBT content. Previously, {{user|Lionelt}} began this disruption in 2010, which lasted two years. As the diffs show above, Belchfire has continued where Lionelt left off, now maintenance tag warring on Sexuality in Star Trek, where he edit warred against the consensus of multiple editors (Nightscream, Insomesia, Pass a Method) and now he is continuing to edit war over LGBT content. This disruption of LGBT content has been previously brought up in multiple forums, including his own talk page, ANI, and the project talk page. I am asking for a lengthy block for Belchfire. Please note that the warning was given at 02:11, 9 January, after which he reverted twice. ] (]) 01:52, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Has BF been a constructive force on any LGBT related article? If not then perhaps it's time to start discussing a topic ban. ]<sup>]</sup></font> 02:33, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Note that Belchfire has been blocked for edit warring on ], as mentioned above. --] 02:38, 10 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Ergzay}} | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: ) == | |||
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Armenian Genocide}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Ankarakediler}} | |||
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# {{diff2|1270885082|18:31, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Reverting for user specifying basically ] as their reasoning" | |||
# {{diff2|1270881666|18:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) I believe you have reverted this edit in error so I am adding it back. Rando tweet from a random organization? The Anti-defamation league is cited elsewhere in this article and this tweet was in the article previously. I simply copy pasted it from a previous edit. ADL is a trusted source in the perennial source list ]" | |||
# {{diff2|1270878417|17:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Removing misinformation" | |||
# {{diff2|1270875037|17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well" | |||
# {{diff2|1270724963|23:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Revert, this is not the purpose of the short description" | |||
# {{diff2|1270718517|22:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Elon is not a multinational" | |||
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# {{diff2|1270879182|17:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule on ]." {{small|(edit: corrected diff)}} | |||
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# {{diff2|1270885380|18:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "stop edit warring now or it all goes to ANI" {{small|(edit: added diff, fix date)}} | |||
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This article is under 1RR restrictions per ]. | |||
Breach of ] {{small|(added comment after 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC) comment added below)}}. ] (]) 18:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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] seems to be making a mistake here as several of those edits were of different content. You can't just list every single revert and call it edit warring. And the brief edit warring that did happen stopped as I realized I was reverting the wrong thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Elon_Musk&diff=prev&oldid=1270879523 ] (]) 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: N/A. This is a basic terminological conflict, where Ankarakediler does not like to use the word "denial" to describe ]. | |||
:Read the bright read box at ] (. ] (]) 18:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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::@] So let me get this straight, you're saying making unrelated reverts of unrelated content in a 24 hour period hits 3RR? You sure you got that right? As people violate that one all the darn time. Never bothered to report people as it's completely innocent. If you're heavily involved on a page and reverting stuff you'll hit that quick and fast for a rapidly updated page. ] (]) 18:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::]: {{tq|An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period.}} – ] (]) 19:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Well TIL on that one as that's the first time I've ever heard of that use case and I've been on this site for 15+ years. 3RR in every use I've ever seen it is about back and forth reverting of the _same content_ within a short period of time. It's a severe rule break where people are clearly edit warring the same content back and forth. Reverting unrelated content on the page (edits that are often clearly vandalism-like edits, like the first two listed) would never violate 3RR in my experience. ] (]) 19:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::I'd honestly love an explanation on that rule as I can't figure out why it makes sense. You don't want to limit people's ability to fix vandalism on a fast moving page. ] (]) 19:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::]: {{tq|There are certain exemptions to the three-revert rule, such as reverting vandalism or clear violations of the policy on biographies of living persons}}. – ] (]) 19:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::No I mean even in the wider sense. Like why does it make sense to limit the ability to revert unrelated content on the same page? I can't figure out why that would make sense. The 3RR page doesn't explain that. ] (]) 19:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Vandalism is an exemption. But vandalism has a narrow definition. ] (]) 19:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Should be added, that I was in the process of reverting my own edit after the above linked comment, but someone reverted it before I could get to it. | |||
:The 18:12 edit was me undoing what was presumed to be a mistaken change by EF5 that I explained in my edit comment as they seemed to think that "some random twitter account" was being used as a source. That revert was not reverted. The 18:31 edit was a revert of an "i don't like it" edit that someone else made, it was not a revert of a revert of my own change. ] (]) 19:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Frankly, I thought your characterization of IDONTLIKEIT in your edit summary was improper and was thinking of reverting you, but didn't want to be a part of what I thought was your edit war. ] (]) 19:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::We can agree to disagree, but the reasons I called it IDONTLIKEIT was because the person who was reverted described the ADL, who is on the perennial sources list as being reliable, in their first edit description with the wording followed by after another editor restored the content with a different source, which is the edit I reverted. ] (]) 19:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Looks like you have seven reverts in two days in a CTOP. I've even seen admins ask someone else to revert instead of violating a revert rule themselves. ] (]) 19:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::What is a CTOP? ] (]) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::A CTOP is a ]. ] (]) 19:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:In Ergzay's defense some of these reverts do seem to be covered under BLP, but many do not and I am concerned about the battleground attitude that Ergzay is taking. The edit summaries "Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well" and "Removing misinformation" also seems to be getting into righting great wrongs territory as the coverage happened whether you agree with the analysis or not. ] (]) 20:05, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::@] Thanks but at this point things are too heated and people are so confident Musk is some kind of Nazi now nothing I say is gonna change anything. It's not worth the mental exhaustion I spent over the last few hours. So I probably won't be touching the page or talk page again for several days at least unless I get pinged. The truth will come out eventually, just like the last several tempest in a teapots on the Elon Musk page that eventually got corrected. Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 21:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::{{tq|Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages.}} If your argument is that Misplaced Pages is wrong about things and you have to come in periodically to fix it; that’s not an argument that works very well on an administrative noticeboard -- and certainly not a good argument here at AN3. ] (]) 22:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::I wouldn't worry all too much about it, 1rr for the article will slow things down and is a positive outcome all things considered. ] (]) 03:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
: Based on the comment in response to the notification for this discussion, {{tq|"I've been brought to ANI many times in the past. Never been punished for it"}}, I was quite surprised to see that the editor didn't acquire an understanding of 3RR when in 2020. That's sometime ago granted, but additionally a lack of awareness of CTOP, when there is an edit notice at Musk's page regarding BLP policy, is highly suggestive of ]. This in addition to the 3RR warning that was ignored, followed by continuing to revert other editors, and eventually arguing that it must be because I am wrong. If there is an essay based on "Everyone else must be wrong because I'm always right" I'd very much like to read it. As for this report, I primarily wanted to nip the edit war in the bud which appears to have worked for now, given the talk page warning failed to achieve anything. I otherwise remain concerned about the general ] based indicators; disruptive editing, battleground attitude, and lack of willingness to collaborate with other editors in a civil manner. ] (]) 23:55, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: I have decided, under CTOPS and mindful of the current situation regarding the article subject, a situation that I think we can agree is unlikely to change anytime soon and is just going to attract more contentious editing, that the best resolution here, given that ''some'' of Ergzay's reverts are concededly justified on BLP grounds and that he genuinely seems ignorant of the provision in 3RR that covers ''all'' edits (a provision that, since he still wants to know, is in response to certain battleground editors in the past who would keep reverting different material within the same 24 hours so as to comply with the ''letter'', but not the ''spirit'', of 3RR (In other words, another case of ])) is to put the article under 1RR. It will be duly logged at CTOPS. ] (]) 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::We are likely to see Ergzay at ANI at some point. But as I was thinking of asking for 1RR early today; I'm fine with that decision. ] (]) 00:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Good decision. I otherwise think a final warning for edit warring is appropriate, given the 3RR violation even excluding BLPREMOVE reverts (first 4 diffs to be specific). There's nothing else to drag out here given Ergzay intends to take a step back from the Musk article, and per above, there is always the ANI route for any future incidents. ] (]) 00:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::@] My statement that you quoted there is because I'm a divisive person and people often don't like how I act on Misplaced Pages and the edits I make. People have dragged me to this place several times in the past over the years and I've always found it reasonably fair against people who are emotionally involved against dragging me down. That is why I said what I did. And as to the previous warning that you claim was me "not getting it", that was 3 reverts of the same material, and with a name 3RR the association is automatic. ] (]) 09:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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Isn't there generally supposed to be at least 3 reverts before they can be blocked? ] - ] 14:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:This article, ], was placed under ] under the ] from an ]. (1RR is enforced at the same noticeboard as 3RR.) This fact of 1RR restriction was prominently displayed on the talk page here, and on an ] here, and in my 1rr warning on the violator's talkpage here, which was deleted and so acknowledged. ] (]) 17:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|203.115.14.139}} | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: ) == | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Frank L. VanderSloot}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Rhode Island Red}} | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
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## {{diff2|1271008695|06:52, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
## {{diff2|1271008905|06:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
# {{diff2|1271007344|06:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
# {{diff2|1271006989|06:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
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'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
Previous version reverted to: | |||
# {{diff2|1271008376|06:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Three revert rule */ new section" | |||
# {{diff2|1271010383|07:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Notifying about edit warring noticeboard discussion." | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
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* 1st revert: 19:15 9 January 2013 | |||
* 2nd revert: 18:12 10 January 2013 | |||
* 3rd revert: 18:14 10 January 2013 | |||
* 4th revert: 22:40 10 January 2013 (Just outside the 24-hour window.) | |||
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Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: The message was removed from his Talk Page by Rhode Island Red; to see it, you have to scroll down on this page to a header marked "The happiness of this season to you". The diff showing this removal is | |||
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<u>Comments:</u> | |||
(1) I didn't bring this particular incident up on the Talk Page this time because (1) Rhode Island Red , and he is well aware of the WP policy, and (2) ''there are already several disputes on the page, and I did not feel justified in adding still another.'' If RIR were so minded, he could have self-reverted after I sent him the warning noted above. Instead, he simply removed the warning as well as a holiday message I had sent him previously. | |||
(2) There are some edit disputes on this page, but for the most part the editors are attempting to work things out, not always satisfactorily. The other disputants have been holding off on the knee-jerk reversions recently. | |||
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User:Xuangzadoo reported by User:Ratnahastin (Result: Page protected indef)
Page: List of religious slurs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Xuangzadoo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 19:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270059834 by 25 Cents FC (rv, none of that contradicts my edits. There are no sources which call "pajeet" a religious slur directed at Hindus. It's only a religious slur for sikhs. There are no sources which call Chuhras Christians or Hindus, they are muslims. There are no sources which mention "cow piss drinker" originating in the US, it's from South Asia. None of my edits contradict what the talk page says.)"
- 16:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270040967 by Ratnahastin (The articles specifically mention "pajeet" as a religious slur directed at sikhs and/or as a racial slur directed at other south asians. There is no mention of "pajeet" being directed as a religious slur at Hindus.)"
- 16:44, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Hindus */ not a religious slur targeted at Hindus, removed"
- 01:28 15 January 2025 "The two sources added for "Pajeet" specifically mention that it's directed at Sikhs or at south asians racially, not at Hindus religiously, removed. "Sanghi" does not have a separate mention for Kashmir in any of its sources, removed. Added disambiguating link to Bengali Hindus. Corrected origin of "cow-piss drinker" to the correct country of origin as mentioned in the source. Added further information for "Dothead"."
- 11:55, 14 January 2025 11:55 "Undid revision 1269326532 by Sumanuil"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 16:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on List of religious slurs."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 16:52, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* 'Anti-Christian slurs' */ cmt"
- 17:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Kanglu */ add"
Comments:
All these reverts yet not a single response at the talkpage. - Ratnahastin (talk) 01:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I am replying here as I'm not sure what you want from me.
- Every edit I made is fairly accurate and doesn't contradict or vandalize any of wikipedia's rules.
- Xuangzadoo (talk) 07:29, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are still edit warring without posting at the talkpage. - Ratnahastin (talk) 16:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- More reverts , can someone do something? - Ratnahastin (talk) 01:06, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Page protected I also note the user has been alerted to CTOPS, which I protected the page under, so there will be no room for argument if this behavior continues. Daniel Case (talk) 23:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Noorullah21 reported by User:HerakliosJulianus (Result: No violation)
Page: Battle of Jamrud (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Noorullah21 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 07:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270112351 by Noorullah21 (talk): No it hasn't, they haven't even given their conclusion, and you again edited the page to revert it.."
- 00:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270108346 by Noorullah21 (talk): No he doesn't, please take this to the talk page now to be more clear."
- 23:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270099439 by Noorullah21: "where they too were saved by the arrival of substantial reinforcements.
Akbar Khan broke off the engagement and returned to Jalalabad, leaving the Sikhs in control of Jamrud, but when he returned to Kabul he claimed the victory and was given a hero’s welcome. For decades after, this pyrrhic victory was celebrated annually in the Afghan capital.39" -Lee, (calls it a phyrric Afghan victory), and Hussain isn't on google scholars."
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 23:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* January 2025 */ new section"
- 00:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Removal of content, blanking on Battle of Jamrud."
- 12:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Final warning: Removal of content, blanking on Battle of Jamrud."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 10:35, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ new section"
- 00:28, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 00:37, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 01:15, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 01:27, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 01:53, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 02:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 02:08, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
- 02:23, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Aftermath section */ Reply"
Comments:
This is not the first time they are edit warring and breaking 3RR, they were previously warned by an admin . There seems to be a habit of them continuously misinterpreting the sources and pushing certain PoVs. They have opted for 3O by themselves but disagreed with the opinion given. Indo-Greek 12:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Im not that involved(haven’t reverted anybody, just made a comment on the talk page). As a word of advice because so many people seem to forget this fact, when your adding disputed content, ONUS is on you to attain consensus. Which hasn’t happened here.
- “The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content.”
- It seems that you yourself were also edit warring, except your the one who’s adding disputed content so per ONUS, you were never supposed to revert him to begin with. You need to wait until talk page discussions conclude and gain consensus. Someguywhosbored (talk) 15:13, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- A. The instance you pointed out was an administrator warning me for one revert on the History of India page. (Talking to Indo-Greek, the person who reported and I had a dispute with here..)
- B. When the individual hasn't concluded their WP:3O, you immediately reverted the page again saying they did. There's still a very open discussion with the user... (They've even edited the page most recently!.. I'd also like to remind you WP:3O is non binding even when the opinion is given, meaning whether they say either or is in the right.. the dispute can still continue until a Consensus can be made. The burden of proof is on you for WP:ONUS (you also kept readding a non WP:RS source.. (Farrukh Hussain). I pointed out WP:3O as a solution, and you keep reverting the page far before they've given their opinion. Lee... (this is now bringing the argument from the talk page here..) calls it a phyrric victory. Noorullah (talk) 16:02, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I also told said where per WP:ONUS, it's per them to seek Consensus. Noorullah (talk) 16:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I reverted my edit as of now per the edit summary. (the last edit prior to that is the person working on our WP:3PO. Noorullah (talk) 16:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- This seems like WP:TAGTEAM, but anyways. The admin had warned you for the same edit warring issue, not 1RR. You had asked for 3O which an editor eventually gave one quoting:
I found a huge contradiction in your quote. You said "Nothing here calls the battle a Sikh victory," but the quote literally says "The Sikhs had beaten the Afghans"
which was later discarded by you which is fine, but if other editors accusing you for overlooking the source and found you contradicting yourself then you should have been more cautious rather than outrightly reverting my changes. Indo-Greek 16:56, 18 January 2025 (UTC)- Have you not read the rest of the discussion..? the WP:3O is being discussed.
- You've completely ignored this.
- Scroll down! (on the talk page). Noorullah (talk) 17:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I also didn't violate the 3 revert rule. I didn't revert 4 times, I reverted 3 times. Although of course, this seems to be more inclined toward edit warring, which both of us did.
- @Someguywhosbored has just jumped into the discussion (and they seem to be more in favor of my argument) -- per their most recent talk page msg on the battle of jamrud, which shows a growing consensus on my side? .. Nonetheless, I still find this report baseless. Noorullah (talk) 17:35, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Both of us did No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through WP:3RR, don't confuse it with WP:4RR. I also think that Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to? The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of WP:MEAT. Indo-Greek 19:39, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- What?
- "No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through WP:3RR" -- Yes, I'm talking about myself.. I reverted 3 times, to break the 3rr rule, you have to revert more than three times (i.e 4 times) "An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page" -- I also self reverted per the former.
- "Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to?" -- He responded on the talk page (of the page), he responded here, and he also re-reverted the page.
- "The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of WP:MEAT." - Are you insinuating @Someguywhosbored is a Meatpuppet? Because you've drawn effectively numerous flanks into the air on what this report is really about.
- A. In your edit summary you said the Third opinion was concluded.. (it wasn't.)
- B. You report here for 3rr (when 3rr wasn't violated, and I'm assuming this is more inclined toward edit war..?)
- C. You then throw around Meatpuppet accusations?
- I'm sorry but there's no way this discussion is remaining civil anymore. Did you even read the Meatpuppet page? "The term meatpuppet may be seen by some as derogatory and should be used with care, in keeping with Misplaced Pages:Civility. Because of the processes above, it may be counterproductive to directly accuse someone of being a "meatpuppet", and doing so will often only inflame the dispute."
- Flinging around accusations of Meatpuppetry clearly breaches Civility. Noorullah (talk) 20:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You also did revert it three times.. Shown here:
- (First time)
- (Second time)
- (Third Time) Noorullah (talk) 20:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are again falsely accusing me of breaking 3RR. You do realise that the first revert was more than 24 hours prior than the other two? I don't have much to say here it's quite self explanatory, while this is not the same case with you, where 3RR has been violated in the span of 24 hours. Indo-Greek 21:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not accusing you of breaking 3RR, I'm saying you reverted three times. To break 3RR it has to be four reverts. (you have to revert more than three times). Your reverts were also in a 24 hour period. (Or just shy of it?)
- I didn't revert four times to break 3RR. Where are the diffs of me reverting you four times? Noorullah (talk) 21:12, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are again falsely accusing me of breaking 3RR. You do realise that the first revert was more than 24 hours prior than the other two? I don't have much to say here it's quite self explanatory, while this is not the same case with you, where 3RR has been violated in the span of 24 hours. Indo-Greek 21:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Both of us did No, I barely reverted your changes two times. You need to go through WP:3RR, don't confuse it with WP:4RR. I also think that Someguywhosbored didn't jump here randomly and what consensus you're referring to? The report is not baseless besides it shows some sign of WP:MEAT. Indo-Greek 19:39, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I also told said where per WP:ONUS, it's per them to seek Consensus. Noorullah (talk) 16:17, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria. As noted in the loooong discussion above, which again proves that using the talk page is a much preferable alternative to taking it over here. Also, this is getting a bit stale. Daniel Case (talk) 12:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Thomediter reported by User:Number 57 (Result: Declined)
Page: Next Danish general election (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Thomediter (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Editor was asked to respect BRD and warned that one more revert would result in them being reported for breaching 3RR. They made the fourth revert immediately after responding to the warning.
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Comments:
- User:Thomediter, I am going to revert your last (fourth) revert; you are indeed edit warring and you're not giving any reasons for your edits, never mind for your ongoing reverts. If you revert one more time you will be blocked. Please don't let it get that far. Seek the talk page. Drmies (talk) 17:40, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Declined per above and reported editor's inactivity. Daniel Case (talk) 22:46, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
User:GiggaHigga127 reported by User:Mac Dreamstate (Result: 48 hours)
Page: Conor Benn (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: GiggaHigga127 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: – only welterweight in the infobox
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: clarification on style guide at user talk page
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Comments:
User:GiggaHigga127 insists on adding the light middleweight and middleweight divisions to Conor Benn's infobox. Our style guide at WikiProject Boxing, MOS:BOXING, says to only include weight classes in which a boxer has notably competed, that being usually for regional/minor/world titles. In Benn's case, that division was welterweight for almost the entirety of his career, and he did indeed hold a regional title in that division. In 2023 he was given a lengthy ban from the sport, from which he recently returned in a pair of throwaway fights within the light middleweight limit, against non-notable opposition and with no titles at stake. Per the style guide, those throwaway fights are not important enough to warrant the inclusion of light middleweight in the infobox, at least until he begins competing there regularly.
As far as middleweight goes, Benn has never competed anywhere close to that weight class. He has a fight 'scheduled' to take place at middleweight, but until the bell rings to officially commence proceedings, WP:CRYSTAL and WP:V should apply, and again it should not be listed in the infobox until then. This same fight was 'scheduled' in 2023, only to be cancelled after Benn failed a drug test—something which happens in boxing all the time. In fact, at the Project we had a similar RfC regarding upcoming fights in record tables, so the same should apply in this instance. WP:IAR would also be a cop-out, because the whole point of MOS:BOXING was to ensure consistency across boxing articles. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:50, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- It continues: , this time with me being called a "melt". I can't imagine what that is, but all the better if it's an insult for obvious reasons. Also, no responses at user talk page. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 00:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Predictably, now it's onto block evasion: . NOTHERE. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Based on this, it could be meaty as well. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Neither nor. I stand by the revision, but that's where any commonality ends. --Dennis Definition (talk) 22:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Of course you stand by the revision. You show up less than 12 hours after Gigga gets blocked, and perform the exact same revert. Dodgy. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 19:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Neither nor. I stand by the revision, but that's where any commonality ends. --Dennis Definition (talk) 22:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Based on this, it could be meaty as well. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Predictably, now it's onto block evasion: . NOTHERE. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Logoshimpo reported by User:JayBeeEll (Result: Blocked 24h)
Page: Probability and statistics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Logoshimpo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Slow-motion edit-warring: original bold edit was , subsequent reversions are , , .
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 20:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* WP:SELFREF */ Reply"
Comments: The last revert follows talk-page discussion in which two users (including me) have rejected their arguments and no one has agreed with them. Here was their addition to the talk-page before their most recent revert: . JBL (talk) 17:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 24 hours Daniel Case (talk) 22:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Rauzoi reported by User:Crasias (Result: Blocked 36 hours, reporter blocked 24, and page protected for a week)
Page: Nachos (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Rauzoi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 17:20, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754 vandalized by Crasias"
- Consecutive edits made from 17:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 17:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- 17:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270457231 by Crasias (talk)"
- 17:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC) ""
- 16:42, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "original version https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nachos&diff=prev&oldid=1187016754"
- Consecutive edits made from 06:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 06:43, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Consecutive edits made from 04:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 04:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- 04:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC) ""
- 04:01, 19 January 2025 (UTC) ""
- 04:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Variations */"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Frequently removing and replacing sourced content that identifies Nachos as "Tex-Mex" rather than "Mexican" Crasias (talk) 17:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Both editors blocked Rauzoi for 36 hours and Crasias for 24 (one less revert over the limit). 3RRNO does not cover this. Furthermore ...
- Page protected Extended-confirmed for a week since, as both editors are autoconfirmed only, they will not be able to resume hostilities once the blocks expire. The talk page hasn't been used in months. Daniel Case (talk) 23:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
User:BoneCrushingDog reported by User:Generalrelative (Result: Blocked one week)
Page: Sex differences in intelligence (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: BoneCrushingDog (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Comments: Note that these edits fall squarely under WP:ARBGS, and the last (6th) revert was done after they were formally notified. Generalrelative (talk) 23:23, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of one week. Bbb23 (talk) 00:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:177.84.58.25 reported by User:Moxy (Result: Page already semi-protected)
Page: Exclusive economic zone (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 177.84.58.25 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Consecutive edits made from 01:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC) to 01:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- 01:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Eu não sou essa pessoa que você está a citar eu comecei a alterar essa página essa e a minhas primeiras vezes , eu estou alteração está página porque eu gosto de ver a área da ZEE de cada país um abaixo do outro ."
- 01:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "I started changing this page today I'm just making changes to this page because I like to see the Zee area of each country in the world, please don't make changes"
- 01:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "I started changing this page today I'm just making changes to this page because I like to see the Zee area of each country in the world, please don't make changes"
- 00:56, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Eu não vou mais fazer alteração se deixar o Rankings by area porque eu gosto de Rankings by area"
- 00:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "ZEE com alteração perfeita"
- 00:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Alterei o tamanho da zona exclusiva econômica do brasil porque a ZEE aumentou em 2024"
- 23:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Antes essa página sofreu alteração incorreta, com eu fiz uma alteração mais correta ."
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 00:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
We discover this week that random numbers were changed a while ago. We changed them back and sort of started a discussion User talk:Maxeto0910#EEZ
Comments:
We are not sure what they are doing...... Think they're mistaken continental shelf for EEZ.Moxy🍁 01:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Page protected (already semi-protected) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 06:38, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:2A01:4B00:D10A:6700:C8CB:A681:5BFA:C14D reported by User:Flat Out (Result: Already blocked)
Page: Harti (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 2A01:4B00:D10A:6700:C8CB:A681:5BFA:C14D (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 02:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Enterprisers */"
- 02:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Royalty */"
- 02:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Enterprisers */"
- Consecutive edits made from 02:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC) to 02:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- 02:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Royalty */"
- 02:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Politicians */"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 02:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Edit Warring */ new section"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
- Already blocked (/64 blocked for 1 week by Daniel Case) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 06:41, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Xpander1 reported by User:MimirIsSmart (Result: Blocked 72 hours)
Page: Tübingen School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Xpander1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 07:15, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 974048061 by Arms & Hearts (talk): Self-reverting as per Misplaced Pages:3RRNO"
- 06:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270517034 by Xpander1 (talk): Please see the redirect page for adding new edits"
- 22:40, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270516481 by Xpander1 (talk): Please avoid making an edit war, I asked you nicely"
- 22:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270516027 by Wikishovel (talk)"
- 22:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 1270489731 by Xpander1 (talk): Please add the new sources to Protestant and Catholic Tübingen School Best."
- Consecutive edits made from 19:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC) to 19:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- 19:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270482917 by Wikishovel (talk) other editors simply continued my original work, which I respect"
- 19:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Redirecting page the newly created page"
- 19:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC) "Restored revision 974048061 by Arms & Hearts (talk): Reverting my own edit to contest page creation attribution"
- 19:07, 18 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270267643 by Xpander1 (talk)"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 07:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* January 2025 */ new section"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 07:44, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Page creator attribution */ Reply"
- 02:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC) on Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Technical requests "/* Uncontroversial technical requests */ Decline, this one is more of a histmerge request which would also be declined from WP:NOATT - I'm happy to explain further on a talk page"
Comments:
Extremely aggressive edit warring. Xpander1 had expanded a redirect to a page with no issue but decided it would be better to just create a page, hence a discussion at Special:Diff/1270341854. Editor decided to "redact contribution in protest", initially blanking then resorting to redirecting. User:Wikishovel would assist in reverting these changes with Xpander1 reacting negatively, violating 3RR to get it erased. Editor had created redirects such as Protestant and Catholic Tübingen Schools and Tübingen school (Germany), with Protestant and Catholic Tübingen School being where he did a cut-and-paste move from original article. Has no intention to resolve dispute any time soon. MimirIsSmart (talk) 08:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- All I did was self-reverting, the article had no significant history before my contribution. What you are describing as "copy-pasting", is me putting my own creation in a new page. As I have explained in many places, in the WP:Teahouse, and elsewhere. My rationale is very simple, Misplaced Pages must distinguish between valid-article-creators and redirect-page-creators. I currently count as the latter. Which don't think is fair. Xpander (talk) 08:49, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- As for now, the page is currently being attributed to User:Wetman on xtools.wmcloud.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Wetman and on the article's info page. Xpander (talk) 09:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
The Teahouse discussion can be found (for now) at WP:Teahouse#Made an article in place of an redirect. Please see also User talk:Voorts#Protestant and Catholic Tübingen School and Talk:Protestant and Catholic Tübingen School. Wikishovel (talk) 09:09, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 72 hours Like Wikishovel, I am mystified—no, make it stunned—that Xpander thinks this edit-warring is justified. In what sense are they not being attributed as the page creator sufficiently for their ego? Do they mean that the page creation log isn't saying that they are? Uh, that's something the software does, that by design no one has control over. Wetman is going to get credit for creating the page, yes, as the empty redirect it was apparently quite happy to have been for 15 years. As noted, no editor familiar with how our processes work would doubt that Xpander, in practical terms, created the article by translating the dewiki article, regardless of what the logs say.
Xpander's repeated reversion to the redirect is, frankly, childish behavior that smacks of page ownership. I strongly remind them not to expect rewards for their editing.
I also reject their argument that 3RRNO#1 shields them as they were merely always "reverting their own edit". Technically that might be arguable, but it is inarguable that, especially given their statement that this was a protest over not getting credit for something no one really expects credit for, they did so in a manner calculated to cause maximum disruption and interfere with the work of others. To allow this to pass on that basis would be opening up a whole new way to game the system. Daniel Case (talk) 20:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Addendum: I also commend WP:NO THANKS to Xpander1's attention. Daniel Case (talk) 22:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
User:92.238.20.255 reported by User:Expert on all topics (Result: Blocked 31 hours)
Page: Oriel High School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 92.238.20.255 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 19:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Updated content"
- 19:18, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Updated content"
- 19:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Deleted content"
- 19:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Deleted content"
- 19:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Deleted content"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments: This IP is trying to censor information in that article --Expert on all topics (talk) 19:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 31 hours Widr (talk) 19:36, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- I undid that block and restored it because simply removing the block isn't really an option in response to actually disruptive editing, but the IP editor's behavior wasn't the main issue in this edit war. I'll send warnings around to people who should know better. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:43, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Kelvintjy reported by User:Raoul mishima (Result: Stale)
Page: Political dissidence in the Empire of Japan
User being reported: Kelvintjy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1217491179
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1227039793
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1229865081
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230019964
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230184562
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: See July 24th 2024 https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: See "Biased" https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy
Comments:
Hello the user Kelvintjy has been engaged in another war last summer and was banned from the Soka Gakkai page. He's been pursuing an edit war on the Dissidence page too without daring give explanations on the talk page though he was invited to do it many times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raoul mishima (talk • contribs) 19:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Stale Bbb23 (talk) 20:03, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bbb23 you blocked this user from the page Soka Gakkai in Aug. 2024 for the same reasons. Raoul mishima (talk) 12:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- You also block Raoul but later unblocked him after he made his appeal. Kelvintjy (talk) 00:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
I don't understand the user always keep targeting me. I am more of a silence contributor. I had seen how the complainant had argue with other contributor in other talk page and after a while the complainant stay silent and not touching certain topic and instead keep making edit on articles related to Soka Gakkai or Daisaku Ikeda. Now, he is making a lot of edit on Soka Gakkai International. Kelvintjy (talk) 05:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Ergzay reported by User:CommunityNotesContributor (Result: 1RR imposed on article)
Page: Elon Musk (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Ergzay (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 18:31, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270884092 by RodRabelo7 (talk) Reverting for user specifying basically WP:IDONTLIKETHIS as their reasoning"
- 18:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270880207 by EF5 (talk) I believe you have reverted this edit in error so I am adding it back. Rando tweet from a random organization? The Anti-defamation league is cited elsewhere in this article and this tweet was in the article previously. I simply copy pasted it from a previous edit. ADL is a trusted source in the perennial source list WP:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Anti-Defamation_League"
- 17:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270877579 by EF5 (talk) Removing misinformation"
- 17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270854942 by Citing (talk) Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well"
- 23:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Revert, this is not the purpose of the short description"
- 22:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270715109 by Fakescientist8000 (talk) Elon is not a multinational"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 17:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Elon Musk." (edit: corrected diff)
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 18:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "stop edit warring now or it all goes to ANI" (edit: added diff, fix date)
Comments:
Breach of WP:3RR (added comment after 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC) comment added below). CNC (talk) 18:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
User:CommunityNotesContributor seems to be making a mistake here as several of those edits were of different content. You can't just list every single revert and call it edit warring. And the brief edit warring that did happen stopped as I realized I was reverting the wrong thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Elon_Musk&diff=prev&oldid=1270879523 Ergzay (talk) 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Read the bright read box at WP:3RR (. O3000, Ret. (talk) 18:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Objective3000 So let me get this straight, you're saying making unrelated reverts of unrelated content in a 24 hour period hits 3RR? You sure you got that right? As people violate that one all the darn time. Never bothered to report people as it's completely innocent. If you're heavily involved on a page and reverting stuff you'll hit that quick and fast for a rapidly updated page. Ergzay (talk) 18:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:3RR:
An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period.
– Muboshgu (talk) 19:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- Well TIL on that one as that's the first time I've ever heard of that use case and I've been on this site for 15+ years. 3RR in every use I've ever seen it is about back and forth reverting of the _same content_ within a short period of time. It's a severe rule break where people are clearly edit warring the same content back and forth. Reverting unrelated content on the page (edits that are often clearly vandalism-like edits, like the first two listed) would never violate 3RR in my experience. Ergzay (talk) 19:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd honestly love an explanation on that rule as I can't figure out why it makes sense. You don't want to limit people's ability to fix vandalism on a fast moving page. Ergzay (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:3RR:
There are certain exemptions to the three-revert rule, such as reverting vandalism or clear violations of the policy on biographies of living persons
. – RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- No I mean even in the wider sense. Like why does it make sense to limit the ability to revert unrelated content on the same page? I can't figure out why that would make sense. The 3RR page doesn't explain that. Ergzay (talk) 19:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Vandalism is an exemption. But vandalism has a narrow definition. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:3RR:
- WP:3RR:
- @Objective3000 So let me get this straight, you're saying making unrelated reverts of unrelated content in a 24 hour period hits 3RR? You sure you got that right? As people violate that one all the darn time. Never bothered to report people as it's completely innocent. If you're heavily involved on a page and reverting stuff you'll hit that quick and fast for a rapidly updated page. Ergzay (talk) 18:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Should be added, that I was in the process of reverting my own edit after the above linked comment, but someone reverted it before I could get to it.
- The 18:12 edit was me undoing what was presumed to be a mistaken change by EF5 that I explained in my edit comment as they seemed to think that "some random twitter account" was being used as a source. That revert was not reverted. The 18:31 edit was a revert of an "i don't like it" edit that someone else made, it was not a revert of a revert of my own change. Ergzay (talk) 19:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Frankly, I thought your characterization of IDONTLIKEIT in your edit summary was improper and was thinking of reverting you, but didn't want to be a part of what I thought was your edit war. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- We can agree to disagree, but the reasons I called it IDONTLIKEIT was because the person who was reverted described the ADL, who is on the perennial sources list as being reliable, in their first edit description with the wording "LMAO, this is as trustworthy as Fox News" followed by "cannot see the pertinence of this" after another editor restored the content with a different source, which is the edit I reverted. Ergzay (talk) 19:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like you have seven reverts in two days in a CTOP. I've even seen admins ask someone else to revert instead of violating a revert rule themselves. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- What is a CTOP? Ergzay (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- A CTOP is a WP:CTOP. RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- What is a CTOP? Ergzay (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like you have seven reverts in two days in a CTOP. I've even seen admins ask someone else to revert instead of violating a revert rule themselves. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- We can agree to disagree, but the reasons I called it IDONTLIKEIT was because the person who was reverted described the ADL, who is on the perennial sources list as being reliable, in their first edit description with the wording "LMAO, this is as trustworthy as Fox News" followed by "cannot see the pertinence of this" after another editor restored the content with a different source, which is the edit I reverted. Ergzay (talk) 19:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Frankly, I thought your characterization of IDONTLIKEIT in your edit summary was improper and was thinking of reverting you, but didn't want to be a part of what I thought was your edit war. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- In Ergzay's defense some of these reverts do seem to be covered under BLP, but many do not and I am concerned about the battleground attitude that Ergzay is taking. The edit summaries "Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well" and "Removing misinformation" also seems to be getting into righting great wrongs territory as the coverage happened whether you agree with the analysis or not. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 20:05, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Horse Eye's Back Thanks but at this point things are too heated and people are so confident Musk is some kind of Nazi now nothing I say is gonna change anything. It's not worth the mental exhaustion I spent over the last few hours. So I probably won't be touching the page or talk page again for several days at least unless I get pinged. The truth will come out eventually, just like the last several tempest in a teapots on the Elon Musk page that eventually got corrected. Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages. Ergzay (talk) 21:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages.
If your argument is that Misplaced Pages is wrong about things and you have to come in periodically to fix it; that’s not an argument that works very well on an administrative noticeboard -- and certainly not a good argument here at AN3. O3000, Ret. (talk) 22:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- I wouldn't worry all too much about it, 1rr for the article will slow things down and is a positive outcome all things considered. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 03:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Horse Eye's Back Thanks but at this point things are too heated and people are so confident Musk is some kind of Nazi now nothing I say is gonna change anything. It's not worth the mental exhaustion I spent over the last few hours. So I probably won't be touching the page or talk page again for several days at least unless I get pinged. The truth will come out eventually, just like the last several tempest in a teapots on the Elon Musk page that eventually got corrected. Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages. Ergzay (talk) 21:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Based on the comment in response to the notification for this discussion,
"I've been brought to ANI many times in the past. Never been punished for it"
, I was quite surprised to see that the editor didn't acquire an understanding of 3RR when previously warned for edit warring in 2020. That's sometime ago granted, but additionally a lack of awareness of CTOP, when there is an edit notice at Musk's page regarding BLP policy, is highly suggestive of WP:NOTGETTINGIT. This in addition to the 3RR warning that was ignored, followed by continuing to revert other editors, and eventually arguing that it must be because I am wrong. If there is an essay based on "Everyone else must be wrong because I'm always right" I'd very much like to read it. As for this report, I primarily wanted to nip the edit war in the bud which appears to have worked for now, given the talk page warning failed to achieve anything. I otherwise remain concerned about the general WP:NOTHERE based indicators; disruptive editing, battleground attitude, and lack of willingness to collaborate with other editors in a civil manner. CNC (talk) 23:55, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- I have decided, under CTOPS and mindful of the current situation regarding the article subject, a situation that I think we can agree is unlikely to change anytime soon and is just going to attract more contentious editing, that the best resolution here, given that some of Ergzay's reverts are concededly justified on BLP grounds and that he genuinely seems ignorant of the provision in 3RR that covers all edits (a provision that, since he still wants to know, is in response to certain battleground editors in the past who would keep reverting different material within the same 24 hours so as to comply with the letter, but not the spirit, of 3RR (In other words, another case of why we can't have nice things)) is to put the article under 1RR. It will be duly logged at CTOPS. Daniel Case (talk) 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- We are likely to see Ergzay at ANI at some point. But as I was thinking of asking for 1RR early today; I'm fine with that decision. O3000, Ret. (talk) 00:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Good decision. I otherwise think a final warning for edit warring is appropriate, given the 3RR violation even excluding BLPREMOVE reverts (first 4 diffs to be specific). There's nothing else to drag out here given Ergzay intends to take a step back from the Musk article, and per above, there is always the ANI route for any future incidents. CNC (talk) 00:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- @CommunityNotesContributor My statement that you quoted there is because I'm a divisive person and people often don't like how I act on Misplaced Pages and the edits I make. People have dragged me to this place several times in the past over the years and I've always found it reasonably fair against people who are emotionally involved against dragging me down. That is why I said what I did. And as to the previous warning that you claim was me "not getting it", that was 3 reverts of the same material, and with a name 3RR the association is automatic. Ergzay (talk) 09:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have decided, under CTOPS and mindful of the current situation regarding the article subject, a situation that I think we can agree is unlikely to change anytime soon and is just going to attract more contentious editing, that the best resolution here, given that some of Ergzay's reverts are concededly justified on BLP grounds and that he genuinely seems ignorant of the provision in 3RR that covers all edits (a provision that, since he still wants to know, is in response to certain battleground editors in the past who would keep reverting different material within the same 24 hours so as to comply with the letter, but not the spirit, of 3RR (In other words, another case of why we can't have nice things)) is to put the article under 1RR. It will be duly logged at CTOPS. Daniel Case (talk) 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
User:203.115.14.139 reported by User:Flat Out (Result: )
Page: Paul Cézanne (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 203.115.14.139 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Consecutive edits made from 06:52, 22 January 2025 (UTC) to 06:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- 06:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC) ""
- 06:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC) ""
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 06:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Three revert rule */ new section"
- 07:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC) "Notifying about edit warring noticeboard discussion."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments: