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Commonly, males may use a piece of clothing (especially a sock) <ref>http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/127?m=416967#416967</ref> to to aid in the practice of masturbation. This gives a unique pleasurable sensation when using the right kind of gentle fabric while providing the benefit of convenient cleanup. | |||
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] (]) 03:08, 2 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
:{{ESp|notdone}} http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/127?m=416967#416967 isn't a ]. ] (]) 20:11, 2 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Age limit == | |||
is there an age limit for masterbation?? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:43, 28 November 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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Well I can only tell you about myself. When I was 5 years old, I went into hospital for a hernia operation and they stuck plasters over my penis, and I could not wank. I wanted to, but I could not. Then when I wanted to pee, I got the nurses to re-do the plastering for me. The nurses did not realize that males pee out of their penises. No... I could not believe it either and as I have said, I was only 5. Now I am well over 60 and still wanking. There you have it. ] (]) 18:00, 17 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:No, a medical leaflet for teenagers published by the ] says "an orgasm a day keeps the doctor away". By "orgasm" NHS means masturbation. A newspaper article about this leaflet is quoted in this Misplaced Pages article. ] (]) 07:27, 20 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Pictures == | |||
== Images or videos == | |||
I entered this site to get to know about views on masturbation in history, and it felt weird to see enormous pictures of penises and clitorises. Maybe this article could be more on topic, and less about porno eyesore? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
:::no sry ! some people are glad that their penises and pussys on wikipedia. They get horny and masturbate while thinking about how people read this article. And the people who prevent other users from removing the useless picture suffer from a mental illness. So really sry. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
This article should have videos, or photos, of a man and a woman masturbating, instead of drawings. Videos are better, but photos are better than drawings. ] (]) 15:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
:in turkish wikipedia thats also a problem. if we give information, then we should give information. ----] ] <sup>]</sup> 12:42, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
I'm wondering if it is possible to create two pages for this article, a picture version and a picture-less version. I am not a prude, I like the text of this article and would like it to be freely read. Despite my lack of prudeness, I really can't get over how distracting the pictures are. I completely believe pictures are a necessary part of wikipedia, and even this article, but I would simply like to see a major editor give this some consideration. The picture version could even be the default, and a pictureless version offered at the beginning of the article. Or vice versa. Again, I am no prude and I do not find anything in this article disgusting, but I can't escape an extreme feeling of some form of voyeurism or something. Please, at least give this some thought. --] (]) 06:45, 26 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I've moved some images to relevant sections and reduced their sizes per ] and ] as larger sizes do nothing to help readers understand the article better, and also serve as potential distractions for editors like you. Besides, the pussy shots and dick close-ups are probably better quality than most of the images hosted in WP; reduced size doesn't reduce viewing quality. You can use external tools/WP gadgets to disable images on all or certain urls/articles, but creating 2 versions would be content-forking. - ] (]) 10:43, 28 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== List of songs == | |||
Yeah I too think some of the pictures should be deleted, including the first one. Teenagers probably come to this article often, and exposing pornography to minors is illegal. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:59, 13 January 2013</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
The list of songs lacks sources and some of the songs listed seem dubious. ] (]) 21:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:]. And you need to recall that this is a global encyclopaedia. Your concerns about illegality may apply in some parts of the world, but not in others. Then there is the question of whether a picture explaining something that's already described in text is, firstly, pornography, and secondly, any different in effect from that text. ] (]) 23:04, 13 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Health masturbation? == | |||
::Still doesn't mean it's not illegal. Unless there is proof showing that the pictures there are of people over the age of 18, I will making a visit to my local law enforcement office and the local FBI building to inquire about an investigation that will get this site shut down in the US. | |||
Masturbation is not health-beneficial; there is merely a correlation between more frequent ejaculation and a lower risk of prostate cancer, regardless of whether the ejaculation occurred sinfully or not. This correlation could theoretically also be caused directly by hormone levels without mediation through ejaculation. | |||
== Caught == | |||
Otherwise, the risk of prostate cancer is negligible up to around the age of 50, and therefore, natural family planning through sexual abstinence does not significantly increase the risk of cancer. After around 50 years of age, women experience menopause, and the couple can engage in sexual intercourse at will. The situation is different for priests and monks, as they have completely devoted themselves to God, and any potential increased risk of prostate cancer is part of the sacrifice." ] (]) 23:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Should there be a sentence about people being caught masturbating? ] ] 00:14, 26 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:How is that even relevant aside from some personal fetish that some may have? It's trivia and you should know that. - ] (]) 08:24, 14 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Cool, now where are the ]? <span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;color:#00008B;background-color:transparent;;CSS">]]</span> 23:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Endorphins == | |||
::Science can make no ]s about how priests and monks should behave sexually. Many Eastern Orthodox priests are married, with children, and the same applies to many Protestant pastors. Also, many Eastern Orthodox monks have lovers or pay prostitutes. | |||
I just an addition to the compulsive masturbation section that used to make a point that orgasm leads to "a drug like dependency" on endorphins, which under that heading implied that this was related to compulsive masturbation. This is so wrong, on so many levels. Sure, the cited article is about endorphins and includes that phrase, but the rest of the connections were entirely ]. --] (]) 23:30, 27 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
::I agree that the correlation between masturbation and the chance of prostate cancer is murky. | |||
:Well, are you an expert? I'm not, but I don't think you can doubt that orgasm and the release of chemicals in the brain has to do with compulsive masturbation and/or sex addiction. Regardless, the quality and type of refs on this subject are quite poor, and I don't think there are many reliable sources available besides specific medical studies on this, which are few and far between. Have you found anything? - ] (]) 09:59, 28 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
::The correlation between having orgasms and cardiovascular health does not mean causation: both erections and cardiovascular health suffer from deposits of cholesterol. | |||
::More generally: the claim that {{tqred|Masturbation is not health-beneficial}} is utterly rejected by mainstream medicine. There are enough mainstream ] ] in our article to that effect. | |||
::The only proven ill health effect of masturbation is producing Peyronie disease in men who are foolish enough to try to bend their erect penis. ] (]) 00:07, 24 December 2024 (UTC) |
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This article should have videos, or photos, of a man and a woman masturbating, instead of drawings. Videos are better, but photos are better than drawings. AnnaFriendly2346 (talk) 15:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- in turkish wikipedia thats also a problem. if we give information, then we should give information. ----modern_primat ඞඞඞ 12:42, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
List of songs
The list of songs lacks sources and some of the songs listed seem dubious. LordApofisu (talk) 21:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Health masturbation?
Masturbation is not health-beneficial; there is merely a correlation between more frequent ejaculation and a lower risk of prostate cancer, regardless of whether the ejaculation occurred sinfully or not. This correlation could theoretically also be caused directly by hormone levels without mediation through ejaculation.
Otherwise, the risk of prostate cancer is negligible up to around the age of 50, and therefore, natural family planning through sexual abstinence does not significantly increase the risk of cancer. After around 50 years of age, women experience menopause, and the couple can engage in sexual intercourse at will. The situation is different for priests and monks, as they have completely devoted themselves to God, and any potential increased risk of prostate cancer is part of the sacrifice." 89.190.52.148 (talk) 23:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Cool, now where are the sources? ZZ'S 23:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Science can make no positive statements about how priests and monks should behave sexually. Many Eastern Orthodox priests are married, with children, and the same applies to many Protestant pastors. Also, many Eastern Orthodox monks have lovers or pay prostitutes.
- I agree that the correlation between masturbation and the chance of prostate cancer is murky.
- The correlation between having orgasms and cardiovascular health does not mean causation: both erections and cardiovascular health suffer from deposits of cholesterol.
- More generally: the claim that Masturbation is not health-beneficial is utterly rejected by mainstream medicine. There are enough mainstream WP:RS WP:CITED in our article to that effect.
- The only proven ill health effect of masturbation is producing Peyronie disease in men who are foolish enough to try to bend their erect penis. tgeorgescu (talk) 00:07, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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