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== please stop messing with my page ==

i am keeping this short. please stop editing and removing my content. mark robertson is authorized to upload content and data as it has been provided by myself. i will start a dispute now with wikipedia to prevent further involvement. what interest or right do you have to remove my content and edit my page??? what interest or right do you have to upload incorrect dates or births, birth places etc. stay off my page. billie ray martin <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{tps}} Please see ] for more on this - thanks. ] (]) 17:57, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

:It is not ''your'' page. You ''don't own'' that page. <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">] ]</span> 18:02, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

:Secondly, we work here from published sources, not from hearsay or personal information. If I stated things incorrect, come up with independent and reliable sources containing the right information. Promo, directly by you or by someone very close to you, is not desired. <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">] ]</span> 18:08, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

:Indeed, I will keep it short: ] <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">] ]</span> 19:04, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

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== question... ==

hi banner

you wrote the following: "I am sceptical about the neutrality of research organisations receiving massive donations from companies growing rich by or through conventional agriculture." and i wrote a kind of sharp response... this statement kind of upset me and i am sorry for the sharpness... but i just don't get where you are coming from. You seem, in general, to be a more rigorous thinker than the kind of thinker that produces this kind of hand-wavy, vaguely conspiratorial, and very useful for brushing away research results you don't like, statement (how is that for some germanic syntax, btw?) In any case, where are you coming from? Do you really think that way? i do hope you explain. thx.] (]) 17:15, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
:Ever seen the movies "]" and "]"? Those movies are good enough to make the innocent believer to become a believer in the conspiracy theory that Monsonato and agrochemical friends "control" the United States.
:As far as I can tell, those movies tell the truth and the agrochemical industry has a very unhealthy influence within the US Government. But I am also aware that those movies are biased and that I can't believe them for 100%.
::Yep when I started this project last summer I watched them both....and they insulted my intelligence, over and over and over. I know they are important to the anti-GM community which is why I stuck with them and watched them all the way through. But I ~hate~ being lied to and manipulated and they are both over the top in that regard. And as I have written several places on the organic food talk page, my good faith (really!) efforts to verify most of what the anti-GMO crowd says have yielded clear trails of exaggeration and misconstrual of facts or standard business practices... which just made me sad. ] (]) 19:51, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

:More or less as a compromise in my head, I turned sceptical. Sceptical insofar that I think that the near total lack of positive results towards organic farming, is to some extent "funded" by by the agrochemical industry. No directly by manipulating results but by preventing positive research to be finished or published. ''He who pays the piper, calls the tune''. As long as is not completely disclosed how a certain research is financed and out of what sources, how the research institution is financed and how the scientific magazines are financed, I will stay sceptical about the neutrality of the researchers, research institutions and magazines.
::Thank you for explaining that. I hear you. Can I respond to this? ] (]) 19:51, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

:In my opinion MEDRS-sourcing origininally is truly set up to avoid dodgy sources coming up with spectacular health claims (like the diet invented by Cornelis Moerman, who claimed that cancer could be ''overcome'' with a special diet and food supplements). But I really think that Wolfie and Yobol ''misuse'' MEDRS to prevent information into the article out of other sources than strict medical sources. Their plain refusal to allow published, peer-reviewed research from specialised agricultural institutions, even when connected to a reliable university, is an example of that. Their stance seem to be that positive research about organical farming is automatically unreliable and that negative research automatically reliable. <span style="border:1px solid #900;background:#fffff4">] ]</span> 18:19, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
:: They have surprised me too - but interestingly they have not challenged the structure of the article with respect to separately describing chemical differences. I found some good sources I want to introduce in those sections. ] (]) 19:51, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

:And just look at the way Yobol is "raping" ]. Negative, negative, negative. <span style="border:1px solid green;background:#fffff4">] ]</span> 18:24, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
::I haven't looked at that article.... should I?] (]) 19:51, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Please! Our interaction gave me enough faith in your neutrality and dedication. <span style="border:1px solid green;background:#fffff4">] ]</span> 19:53, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

== Funny attempt by a POV-pusher to chase me away ==
] Your recent editing history at ] shows that you are currently engaged in an ]. '''Being involved in an edit war can result in you being ]'''&mdash;especially if you violate the ], which states that an editor must not perform more than three ] on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;'''even if you don't violate the three-revert rule'''&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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:Nice try to chase me away, but unfortunately it won't work. I want truth, and not POV on ]. <span style="border:1px solid green;background:#fffff4">] ]</span> 19:50, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

==This is enough==
This Your 2 Warning if You did it again You will be Blocked 5 Days Because you want to Delete List of tallest Buildings in Iloilo City
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:I guess you disagree? But block me, if you can... <span style="border:1px solid green;background:#fffff4">] ]</span> 11:27, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

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==AFD at ]==
I've gone ahead and closed your AFD on this article, as it's clear that you want the redirect ] deleted instead. For that, you should head over to ] and follow the instructions there. Thanks. ] <sup> ] </sup>~<small> ] </small> 21:31, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
:Ehm, ooooooops... I guess I was fooled by the redirect itself. I have now but up the redirect for deletion. <span style="border:1px solid green">] ]</span> 21:37, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

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== Logic failure ==

ONE: moves should not be done without discussion and consensus. (A large number of GAA articles were moved without discussion or consensus.)

TWO: an article that has been moved controversially, without discussion or consensus, should be moved back and a move discussion opened. (I moved them back and opened a talk page topic for each move.)

These seem to me to be fairly basic rules. Yet, when I move articles back under rule two above, you not only move them back but try to get your move protected! ] (]) 14:10, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
:There is no need to repeat what someone else did nor use that as an excuse to ignore a running discussion. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 14:23, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

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Banner: Can you explain as far as you can tell why you/they are deleting the WorldMap article I created? Is it sources? content? writing? I am quite surprised I have to admit.
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== nomination of deletion of ] ==
I note your nomination of deletion of the page ] - you may wish to comment on my nomination of related pages ] the company to which he was related, and fellow directors ], and ]. ---- ] ] 00:32, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

:I note your interest in deleting my article on Eric Everard. How is Belgium's Manager of the Year of less interest than an Irish restaurant that closed in 2003? You have some strange criteria for what constitutes "encyclopaedic"! ] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 12:14, 21 January 2013 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::I would have expected a less pitiful reply from a professional writer/journalist. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 12:30, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
: And I would expect you to respond to the points I made, rather than resorting to personal insults. How many awards and honours must Eric Everard win before you remove your nomination for deletion? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:33, 21 January 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::You are promoting your own boss. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 13:38, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

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Laurel, who is currently blocked, has asked me to notify you about the discussion on their talk page.--] (]) 00:30, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
==James Porter==
I haven't been the one reverting and removing sourced information.] (]) 19:00, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
:Start counting, you have by now done 4 (four) reverts today: , , , <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 19:13, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

==Armstrong's Barn==
I am just curious, what precisely is the value of so many wikipedia articles (in English and Dutch) about long-defunct Irish restaurants? ] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 13:30, 21 January 2013 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Far more then the promotion of your boss, mr. Marketing employee. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 13:37, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Do you think it would be possible to have a sensible discussion rather than resorting to personal abuse and innuendo? I am not an employee, I am self-employed. I would like to understand your motives for wanting the Misplaced Pages page removed. --] (]) 14:04, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:Reasons: promotion, advertising and puffery. Plus a conflict of interest of the author: ''(...) then you are very strongly discouraged from editing Misplaced Pages in areas where those external relationships could reasonably be said to undermine your ability to remain neutral.'' <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 14:11, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:: I have tried to be neutral and avoid conflict of interest issues. I will re-review to ensure that this is the case. Feel free to edit if you feel that anything specific on the Eric Everard entry is incorrect, misleading or lacks objectivity. Best regards --] (]) 15:36, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

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Please do not unlink symbols on unicode tables. Instead, if you find an issue with it, fix or flag the redirect instead. Thank you. ] ] 23:38, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
:Could you just stop creating links to disambiguation pages? Just link them to the right pages, not to disambiguation pages. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 23:52, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

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== Dispute resolution ==

I've left a comment in ]. It must surely be clear to you all by now that edit-warring, multiple moves/requested moves and shouting matches on WP:IE, WP:IMOS, WikiProject Gaelic games and AN/I is not solving anything. I urge the three of you – Brocach, The Banner and Laurel Lodged – to put your heads together and take your dispute to the ], and in the meantime declare a cease-fire and stop hitting your heads off a brick wall. I am posting the identical message to each of you. ] (]) 08:55, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
:Useless exercise. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 09:46, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
::Causing disruption all over the shop is useful, but even thinking about dispute resolution is useless? I give up! ] (]) 12:47, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
:::I'm not causing the disruption! And I have no confidence that Brocach is willing to compromise in any form, while Laurel Lodged is prepared to accept topic ban alongside Brocach if that is decided to be the best option for the encyclopdia. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 13:44, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
::::But as a compromise, I willing to accept a topic ban for Laurel Lodged, Brocach, you and me. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 14:02, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::If the topic is the GAA, then I would gladly accept that compromise. A topic without endless disruption from you lot is preferable to a messed-up topic with the odd uninspiring edit by me. Go ahead and propose it. ] (]) 14:19, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::Oh, but hadn't you better include Mabuska as well? His ] on WT:IE are part of this problem as well. ] (]) 14:27, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::LOL, you make it loud and clear that you don't want mediation and a compromise but just want everybody out of the way that does not agree with you. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 16:06, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, not necessarily. Isn't there someone else who agrees with Brocach? I can't remember his name off-hand. Stick him on the list as well and we'll topic-ban everybody. Works so much better than going through a dispute resolution process. ] (]) 16:44, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

== Rene Redzepi ==

Please check my comment on the talk page about Rene Redzepi page referencing to his father.
I write you because i saw that u were the last one that has done something to the page.] (]) 20:57, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

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== Forgive my ignorance, ==

but what does "c/e" mean in relation to page edits? ] (]) 22:14, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
:Sorry, it stands for CopyEdit. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 22:15, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks for the speedy response! Feel free do delete this section/question if desired.] (]) 22:20, 25 January 2013 (UTC)


==Panama population== == Cahercommaun ==
I did; As a matter of fact, if you review the content present in the citations I provided, you'll see they were right. If anything, your content is outdated or wrong. Mainly because Las Cumbres is ''within'' San Miguelito, and Panama City has a population of 800,000+ citizens. Additionally, any population inside a district is not a city, but part of it (in Panamanian terms, there's no distinction between city and district).


hey @] you reverted my changes and removed credible sources from the page, may I ask why?
In fact, I think some cities after the top four are also wrong. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 06:28, 27 January 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


the article's lead says it's "sometimes ''Cahercommane"'' which is as I found the page, but I added a source from Clare Libary: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/places/the_burren/cahercommane.htm
Are you aware that those edits are incorrect; Those statistics from the City Council's site are correct. If we didn't use them, then the largest city would wind up as the smallest. Las Cumbres is a part of the city. Look again please. The government is to be trusted as the ultimate information source. Any others are inferior and can be ignored or disregarded as not being correct. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:36, 27 January 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Sir, those numbers belong to provinces/region. Provinces are no cities. Regions are no cities. Please, look at the ]&nbsp;]</span> 19:09, 27 January 2013 (UTC)


You removed this.
This link still disagrees. Read the description, or shall I provide a translation? ] (]) 03:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


Then the archaeological section is referring to a study from a 1934 excavation without recent developments.
The city's page itself says the population as per the government's site, hence why we believe it instead of a shady foreign website that may have or highly inacurate data. ] (]) 03:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:Bejaysus, we are talking here about the biggest cities of the state of Panama. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 05:08, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


Since then, the historian Gibson (professor of anthropology with a Phd in irish chiefdoms) has written an academic dissertation in 1990 identifying this site as the capital of the chiefdom of ''Tulach Commáin'' ("The Mound of Commán" a once locally revered chief, anglicised to Commane).
Alright; We are talking about the largest cities in the entire country right? Are you aware that the country's largest city ] has nearly 800,000+ inhabitants?


His work is quoted by many scholars, I've added this point again with many sources.
That's '''Panama City'''; You are placing lots of areas that are NOT cities but PARTS of the city. There's nothing in that page saying province! And yes, Panama uses ] not states.


No worries if this was just an oversight—happy to discuss further if needed!
] (]) 06:29, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:When those part have their own City Council, they are not counted as part of Panama City. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 10:09, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


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They don't have their own city councils. The city council's page (which is the one in the address) is the one you're looking at; The corregimientos are part of the city. If you don't know it; with it's metro area, Panama City has 1,400,000+ inhabitants ] (]) 10:50, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
] (]) 13:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:That was not clear in the sources you provided! Often enough suburbs have their own city or town council. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 14:05, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:Outdated source and poor sources. It looks more like wishful thinking then proper sources. Westropp is only reliable for his drawings but beside that he made a lot of mistakes and misconceptions. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 15:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::Yes the information on the current page is outdated as I said it's from a 1934 excavation.
::The links I inserted is the recent research, Gibson also published a book in 2012 on Irish Chiefdoms specifically on this subject. ] (]) 15:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Another source National library of Ireland referred to as Cahercommane
:::: https://catalogue.nli.ie/Collection/vtls000742581/HierarchyTree?recordID=vtls000742581 ] (]) 15:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Monument Name: Cahercommane
::::https://clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/archaeology/CL010-06403-.htm
::::Your objection to adding credible sources to the page and deleting my redirect link is unfounded Sir ] (]) 15:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Too bad that you keep referring to Westropp. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 15:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::You don't seem to grasp that names in Ireland are often referred to by different spellings.
::::::Even historically, chiefdoms to quote gibson were known by a multiplicity of names.
::::::I've lived in this area all my life and it's always been referred to this way.
::::::For example, look at this site: https://www.logainm.ie/en/22342 and scroll down to Historical References there's about 20 different spellings if you look at the different years.
::::::If you're not going to allow credible sources on the page then I will have to escalate the issue. ] (]) 15:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Is that a threat? Or a promise that you start a new excavation soon? <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 15:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Ow, and read "Burren archaeology : a tour guide" by historian Hugh Carthy. Worth a read. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 16:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Will check it out.
::::::::No threat. I don't think I'm being unreasonable here, so if we can't agree, other opinions will be needed and I will be opening a case. ] (]) 16:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::objecting to my redirect link.... why? ] (]) 16:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::That is clearly stated in the nomination. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 16:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::I've just explained why you're mistaken. ] (]) 16:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:https://en.wiktionary.org/commane interesting! dictionary describes ''commane'' an alternative form of ''commaun''
:there is no misconception or mistake—except, perhaps, in your stance. ] (]) 19:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


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Hi, I saw you reverted a reference to nonstop year-round service on United for ] due to non-independent reference. This was taken directly from the airport's official website, so unclear why this is not considered a primary source. Can you elaborate on what should be used instead or why this reference is not acceptable? Looking forward to your response, thank you. ] (]) 17:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
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Cahercommaun

hey @The Banner you reverted my changes and removed credible sources from the page, may I ask why?

the article's lead says it's "sometimes Cahercommane" which is as I found the page, but I added a source from Clare Libary: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/places/the_burren/cahercommane.htm

You removed this.

Then the archaeological section is referring to a study from a 1934 excavation without recent developments.

Since then, the historian Gibson (professor of anthropology with a Phd in irish chiefdoms) has written an academic dissertation in 1990 identifying this site as the capital of the chiefdom of Tulach Commáin ("The Mound of Commán" a once locally revered chief, anglicised to Commane).

His work is quoted by many scholars, I've added this point again with many sources.

No worries if this was just an oversight—happy to discuss further if needed!

K Kellycrak88 (talk) 13:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Outdated source and poor sources. It looks more like wishful thinking then proper sources. Westropp is only reliable for his drawings but beside that he made a lot of mistakes and misconceptions. The Banner talk 15:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes the information on the current page is outdated as I said it's from a 1934 excavation.
The links I inserted is the recent research, Gibson also published a book in 2012 on Irish Chiefdoms specifically on this subject. Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Another source National library of Ireland referred to as Cahercommane
https://catalogue.nli.ie/Collection/vtls000742581/HierarchyTree?recordID=vtls000742581 Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Monument Name: Cahercommane
https://clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/archaeology/CL010-06403-.htm
Your objection to adding credible sources to the page and deleting my redirect link is unfounded Sir Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Too bad that you keep referring to Westropp. The Banner talk 15:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
You don't seem to grasp that names in Ireland are often referred to by different spellings.
Even historically, chiefdoms to quote gibson were known by a multiplicity of names.
I've lived in this area all my life and it's always been referred to this way.
For example, look at this site: https://www.logainm.ie/en/22342 and scroll down to Historical References there's about 20 different spellings if you look at the different years.
If you're not going to allow credible sources on the page then I will have to escalate the issue. Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Is that a threat? Or a promise that you start a new excavation soon? The Banner talk 15:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Ow, and read "Burren archaeology : a tour guide" by historian Hugh Carthy. Worth a read. The Banner talk 16:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Will check it out.
No threat. I don't think I'm being unreasonable here, so if we can't agree, other opinions will be needed and I will be opening a case. Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
objecting to my redirect link.... why? Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
That is clearly stated in the nomination. The Banner talk 16:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I've just explained why you're mistaken. Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
https://en.wiktionary.org/commane interesting! dictionary describes commane an alternative form of commaun
there is no misconception or mistake—except, perhaps, in your stance. Kellycrak88 (talk) 19:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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Princess Juliana International Airport#Passenger

Hi, I saw you reverted a reference to nonstop year-round service on United for Washington-Dulles due to non-independent reference. This was taken directly from the airport's official website, so unclear why this is not considered a primary source. Can you elaborate on what should be used instead or why this reference is not acceptable? Looking forward to your response, thank you. PAE2008 (talk) 17:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

The issue is that it is not an independent source. The airport has a clear commercial interest in the connection and so in unsuitable as source, Please take a look at WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT. The Banner talk 18:05, 9 January 2025 (UTC)