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Terry

Thanks for the sources. I guess SNK's artists think Garou Terry was made to be cooler than regular Terry. This is not the first time they said that. In an article related to KOF 12, the staff said they wanted to reuse the original "macho" Terry rather than Garou's one. I guess it's similar to Kyo's redesigns where he starts wearing stylish costumes rather than the classic bancho school uniform often seen in many series like Jotaro Kujo from Jojo.Tintor2 (talk) 15:44, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

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Trish

I managed to create an article for Trish (Devil May Cry). Feel free to add anything.Tintor2 (talk) 16:25, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Siegfried Schtauffen

Malarkey such as creating grotesquely overdetailed articles on game characters over a redirect that has been agreed on in a wiki community discussion is the kind of behavior that , if persisted with, gets you 'blocked'.TheLongTone (talk) 13:54, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

You are cruising for a bruising. Grow up, as quickly as you can.TheLongTone (talk) 14:03, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Please cease your random vandalism and random rants on people's talk pages. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 14:05, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism my curvy pink. It's not a random rant; you, however, are a disruptive editor.TheLongTone (talk) 14:06, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

• The entire "wiki community discussion" was https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:List_of_Soulcalibur_characters#Siegfried's_article? and now revert vandalism and remove your post here before I have you reported. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 14:09, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

After further vandalism on an article that has been completed for years (namely for 7 years): I now reported you. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 17:03, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

I think you should check up on what constitutes vandalism. And if you have reported me to the admins, I would point out that it is the done thing to notify the person you have dobbed in.TheLongTone (talk) 12:16, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

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SNAAAAKE!! - I'm not sure if you figured out what triggered the warning so if not, it was repetitive categorization - wait until the article is moved into mainspace and then add the categories. I didn't realize it would trigger such a warning, either. 😊 18:38, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

ADDING: My mistake - the article being moved into draft space is what caused it - I had it backwards. 19:08, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

How to fix a transpared-background https://en.wikipedia.org/File:Siegfried_(Soulcalibur).png showing up as white background at https://en.wikipedia.org/Siegfried_and_Nightmare ? SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 02:13, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

It looks to me like feathering caused the washed edges when the image was removed from the background. Scale back the feathering to 1 or 2 px — I assume you’re using the oval tool as well?? 19:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

I see you're sou're so confused that you even writing in a wrong section here. --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 11:12, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

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redo ping as user name was misspelled above - Mz7 18:51, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey, left asking for an apology, seems didn't get it still after few days. (The pic's fine now.) --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 18:23, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Meh - let’s stay focused on getting the articles to GA and not worry about distractions. How did you fix the pic? 21:03, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Eh, I don't even want any GAs anymore just to make this properly written especially as it's highly popular right now (right now = for a year or so) due to the huge popularity of Fate Grand Order. I didn't do anything with the pic myself. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 08:33, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Jill Valentine

Hi. I noticed this edit on Beemer69's talk page, and was wondering if you'd like to discuss the article before I renominate it for FAC. What exactly is it you want to "share", sources or comments? Thanks. Homeostasis 22:45, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

I don't think I'm supposed to be arguing with any ideologues on the terms of my, um, probation. Especially since even unprovoked they've already attacked me by name right there. But I've got a plenty of sources from old magazines, others who are seriously into Resi have all these Capcom books and stuff. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 08:19, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

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Any SNK heroine that might be worthy of an article

As you know, SNK is releasing a fighting game centered around most of their female characters. Considering she is in the cover, I wondered if Kula might be able to surpass WP:Notability. I know some sources that talk about her creation (concept, appearance intention, gameplay in KOFXIII, and her redesigns for Maximum Impact). Den of Geek also listed her as one of the best KOF characters but I couldn't find much more reception information. In case you are interested, I'm willing to help. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 00:40, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

King, but good luck finding stuff for her with searches. Better update and expand articles like King of Fighters, where most KOF games aren't even mentioned. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 04:22, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Made some a sandbox here. There there would be more sources for SNK Heroines considering how controversial it is.Tintor2 (talk) 16:01, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

I don't really care about any western woke "journalists" clutching pearls for virtue signalling and clicks. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 16:05, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, but it would add at least more notability similar to that R. Mika article. I mean, do you think the two paragraphs of the current sandbox can make it pass notability?Tintor2 (talk) 16:09, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

It's not worth it. Really better for example fix the KOF article that doesn't even mention most games from the last decade and half, also make articles about the recent mobile games that are very popular in China (using Chinese and Japanese sources, because you can't count on western "game journalists" to report on video games). --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 16:12, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Still, it might be hard to create Eastern-only games because the sources would be impossible to read. Even the SNK Wiki's articles barely have content about them.Tintor2 (talk) 16:21, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Use website translation services. Google Chrome even automatically does if enabled, using their own Google Translate. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 16:39, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Two games very popular right now are SNK's own The King of Fighters: World and Tencent's The King of Fighters: Destiny. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 16:41, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

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SNK's characters

I managed to highly expand the reception section from Athena Asamiya but I'm worried about Yuri Sakazaki's notability. If you found sources for her, I would appreciate it and add them to the article. I was also thinking of having an article for Leona Heidern but it seems there are not many sources besides some articles from Den of Geek. Cheers and happy editing.Tintor2 (talk) 22:33, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

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Circe Era

I gave the wrong guideline for retaining BCE dates in the Circle article. It is MOS:ERA, backed by MOS:DATERET, which reads in part: "The date format chosen by the first major contributor in the early stages of an article should continue to be used". Please don't start an edit war. Sweetpool50 (talk) 17:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages as a whole uses 480 BC, not "480 BCE". SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 02:13, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Guidelines leave creators free to choose which era is appropriate to an article. Circe was a 'pagan' goddess and her ancient representations fall within an era well before Christianity even existed, therefore Common Era dating fits better in that context. Just appealing to use on "Misplaced Pages as a whole" is meaningless without taking rationale for use into consideration. Sweetpool50 (talk) 09:59, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Kula Diamond

I did Spanish game reviews research and found more reception about KOF character Kula Diamond so I decided to try a new article. Feel free to add anything.

Also, Trish (Devil May Cry) managed to become a GA but feel free to correct anything. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 21:35, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

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Soul Calibur

Hello, just a week ago I created a new table as an idea on the Soul Calibur talk page. Unfortunately, no one has yet answered, whether this idea is good or if there is something negartive. Could you please have a look. I do not want to change the table on the main page without a vote. ---TheKerberos01, 01:34, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:List_of_Soulcalibur_characters#New_character_table

Last names and allcaps

I refer to your edits at Sheva Alomar. Please read MOS:SURNAME. "After the initial mention of any name, the person should generally be referred to by surname only". Accordingly, I'm going to revert all your changes of 'Redfield and Alomar' to 'Chris and Sheva'. This was one of many issues in the article I had to fix at this article before I was able to successfully nominate it for GA. Please don't ever change surnames to first names at any article. Have a nice day. Damien Linnane (talk) 10:22, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Also please read MOS:ALLCAPS; don't put references in all capital letters (Such as: 'TOP5 HATED CHARACTERS (THAT YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO HATE)' even if that's how it appeared in the original source. Thanks. Damien Linnane (talk) 10:46, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm very concerned by your addition of the extremely long quote by voice actress Karen Dyer. So as you no doubt would have noticed I took it upon myself to 'adopt' several of the articles you had written after you were blocked. As I worked on your articles I was continually impressed by your ability to find information and your attention to detail, however, was also quite frankly mortified by your inability to format references, tell the difference between reliable and non-reliable sources, and also your need to add insane amounts of trivial over-detail. This new quote by Dyer is an example of the latter. It's the kind of over-detail I had to remove before I could get any of the articles you had worked on to GA level. I mean, you've added seven sentences of quotes, but I don't see a single thing of value in any one of them. "I think she is also driven, heart-wise"; how is that helpful to the reader? The only thing I see as being useful to the reader is the opening sentence about her training to use firearms. Personally I'd delete every single one of those seven sentences. Perhaps you could have a one sentence summary of Dyer's thoughts on Alomar (though personally I wouldn't even add that). Damien Linnane (talk) 11:24, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Again, it's Sheva not "Alomar". In both the official and the common use, as in the case of all RE protagonists. I'm really "mortified" more by that. The article could be as well named "Sheva (Resident Evil)", you know? Just like Sophitia Alexandra's article is just Sophitia, it's very common in video games that surnames are just unimportant. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 11:28, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

(Copying from my talk page since you're replying here as well now) I understand the term Sheva is used much more frequently than Alomar, but that doesn't change the fact the Alomar is her last name. As per MOS:SURNAME, that's how we format names on Misplaced Pages. It's exactly the same for film plots. I was told to change all the instances of 'Chris and Sheva' to 'Redfield and Alomar' before Resident Evil 5 could become a good article. I'm 100% they would have brought up the issue of last names at the FAC if they hadn't already been formatted properly. Damien Linnane (talk) 11:29, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Also Sophitia isn't a good article, Sheva Alomar is, and RE5 (which also calls her Alomar) is featured, so I think that's a very poor comparison. I'd be happy to raise the issue at Project Video Games and accept whatever consensus is reached there. Damien Linnane (talk) 11:36, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

The reviewers were simply wrong. It happens, people being clueless about things. The surname of Sheva is even (and much) less important than, for example, the surname the horror monster Jason (nominally "Jason Voorhees", and there is actually some importance to it due to his mother, but it's just Jason, including in his FA Jason Voorhees where "Jason" goes over 400 times and "Voorhees" less than 40). SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 12:02, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Leon Kennedy

There's a new full body image of Leon from RE2 remake for the replacement of its infobox. FairlaneIsPangit (talk) 08:28, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

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Image

I noticed you are good with uploading image. I've been trying to upload two images for the infobxes of Shinya Kogami and Akane Tsunemori but they end up with a black background. Can you check those two to upload images with better background? Happy editing.Tintor2 (talk) 16:05, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/File:Akane_(Psycho-Pass).png Fix the source for where was it from originally. --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 18:11, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

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Noticed you have been editing that article so I thought this site might help you. It has a lot about the character.Tintor2 (talk) 18:31, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

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SNAAAAKE, let's discuss this, ok? There are always work-arounds when consensus decides to change something. If you believe you have a convincing argument to oppose the proposed change, then let's present your argument calmly. I'm watching your TP, and ask that you please not respond anymore at the RfC. If anything, I hope you will strike the comments you made that were directed at editors and not content. Ok? The proposal also stated that the 3 unique fields this template has could either use the custom fields available at Template:Infobox character or be merged into the template itself and be available directly. So you're really not losing the important template parameters, they are being merged into a single template. Perhaps there can be an additional parameter that designates what you need it to do for the video game character? 19:26, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

I was about to say "OK, I'm finished there. It's not that I'm even going to prevail obviously." but now the new excellent idea is to delete everything that matters in this case as "trivia" to be replaced by actual trivia. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 20:21, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

I figured you were - you've done so well in this topic area, and I am so impressed with the wonderful work you've done/been doing. I'm trying not to appear patronizing but as I've expressed to you in the past, I've been a fan of your writing from the get-go, and continue to be so it's probably a bit selfish on my part to want to keep you editing. PS: There was a King Arthur movie on DirecTV last night, and I thought of you and the wonderful work you've done on WP. How about this - let the RfC run its course, and then we can discuss some of the parameters you need to maintain the "historic format" or whatever it is you want to keep? Infoboxes are...well...see Misplaced Pages:Tarage's Law. 😂  20:39, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Oh really, "a fan"? That's oh, wow, thank you! Anyway, I just had prove that a fighting style is actually of importance for a *fighting* game character. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 21:48, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Understood - it will all work out...patience, my Wikifriend. 22:15, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

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What would be a better order: |weapon=, |fighting_style= or the other way around? --Gonnym (talk) 15:48, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

The way it was, was fine. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 01:25, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

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It's the title of the completely unrelated film https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0155508/ SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 09:24, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

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TV marathon

I've been temporarily incapacitated because of a pinched nerve in my left shoulder, so I spent the day resting, and watching Season 1 of The Adventures of Merlin on Netflix. It made think of the wonderful work you've been doing in that same topic area. 00:52, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

I was about to say cool, but there's not much cool with health problems. Get well soon! SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 13:39, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Update - I actually have been working on the lead for Mordred but so far nothing has transferred from my brain to the keyboard. Good thing there's no deadline. I didn't want you to think I forgot. 01:22, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

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I've been working on the Fate articles and created two. For Kiritsugu, I found this image that shows his body better than the current one. Could you please change it to show only his body rather than the background too? Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 17:18, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

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Ditto. Eric 11:44, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

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I agree with VQuakr for the most part; however, it is sometimes better to get a temperature reading of the local article watchers first. I weighed-in with stats but won't be going back. _Talk 📧 18:43, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

They're literally about the only people in the whole wide world that use this nickname (was never the real name) anymore, and they do it for both the historical ISIS (yet not the previous ISI) and the current IS. --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 19:32, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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Yes, I know books by this author, and he also often appears on various talk shows. I also happy to see you around. But I am kind of busy with real life things. Happy editing! My very best wishes (talk) 04:53, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

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Hadouken

I noticed you wrote the Hadouken article. Not sure if anything in this is useful to further expand it. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 00:07, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Add what you want. I wanted to restore Shoryuken too but it's salted (actually Shoryuken (website) would be nice too). SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 09:57, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

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Re: Kitana

Shaving down the infobox to game-only portrayals was suggested during my process of getting Ermac to GA status in order to avoid clutter. But yeah, the edit was kinda out of nowhere, so apologies for that. sixtynine 15:16, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Portions can be set as collapsed. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 16:27, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Edit warring

Snake, aren’t you on a 1RR restriction? It looks like you’ve violated it multiple times over at Quiet’s article? Pinging Atsme. Sergecross73 msg me 21:49, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

I've explained at (where there was no reply contesting it) plus now (different arguments/approach actually). There was also kinda Chernobyl (miniseries) where people kept removing my improvement tags until I've given up (but they're in wrong). SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 21:54, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Nothing in the editorial you’ve written on that talk page you linked to addresses whether or not you’re both under, and violated, a 1RR editing restriction. Sergecross73 msg me 21:57, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

SNAAAAKE!!, it doesn't matter who is right or wrong, what matters is who gets caught in the 3RR revert trap or worse - DS and 1RR. Unfortunately, your prior history places you at a disadvantage but you CAN/HAVE overcome that obstacle by stepping back and taking the advice of others who share your goals in getting the article right. When you find yourself in a squeeze, you can email me and/or ask questions on my TP where helpful (talk page stalker) can also weigh-in. You are too valuable a contributor to get caught in the web of reverts. _Talk 📧 22:03, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Just saying I'm discussing on talk pages (and began before it came to attention). You can revert me if you want, or either just go and see if I'm right (or not). SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 22:07, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

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Block, which represents your last chance

OK, can I have it reset to 3? It's been like 1 year or something. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 22:22, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

You'll have to bring that up with the admin that applied the restriction first. If that fails, you can bring it to wider admin review. El_C 22:25, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

El C - your block resulted in an (edit conflict) as I was hitting publish changes. That was a hair trigger block at ANI - which is not 3RR or AE. Wow. _Talk 📧 22:34, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

What can I say — I'm swift! El_C 22:45, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

😂 _Talk 📧 23:07, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm OK with a timeout actually. I spend way too much time here lately. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 22:38, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Tell me about it! El_C 22:43, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your leniency, El C. _Talk 📧 23:07, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Suggestion for you

Hi, SNAAAAKE!! - remember, patience is a virtue. I was reading some of the back and forth at Talk:Quiet (Metal Gear) and it inspired me to ask if maybe there is enough coverage of "oversexualization of women in video games" for you to create an article? Whenever you become frustrated during a debate, it is always better to pull yourself away from it and focus on something else for a while. You can always go back later when there's not so much heat in the kitchen, and can approach others with a calm that furthers the chances of your proposal gaining acceptance rather than rejection. Also keep in mind that when editors disagree on a particular approach, or addition/removal of material, it is better to not bludgeon and simply call an RfC and let consensus decide. No editor can win 100% of the arguments, right or wrong - it's the nature of the beast - so I'm asking you to please not let yourself get so wrapped-up that it becomes irreversibly frustrating and causes you to say/do something you'll regret later. Ok? If you think the new article has merit, let me know and I'll help you find RS. _Talk 📧 12:05, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

I don't think "oversexualization of women in video games" is real. The whole notion is a product of the weird "secular Puritan" American culture that was once championed by so-called "sex-negative feminists" and fundamentalist Christians, but now has taken over the self-professed "progressive" mainstream that is doing absolutely crazy things like celebrating/promoting Islamic hijabs in the West. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 12:08, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Really? Ironically, you have inadvertently reinforced the need for such an article by bringing forward a different POV. See if there are RS you can cite to avoid WP:OR and voila! - we have an insightful and necessary new article in the pedia. _Talk 📧 12:23, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

A few more sources: Forbes, Affinity Magazine, Vice, and there are many more.

Yes, really, that's what I talk about - the supposedly-progressive hipster weirdos calling themselves "games journalists" with opinions more aligned with the Islamist norms than the Japanese culture they hate so much. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 12:35, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

And they also hate the gamer culture, whcih is what GamerGate was really about (and not their lies in the literally thousands of completely false articles that Misplaced Pages's ridiculous article "Gamergate controversy" is based on and they actually often link to Misplaced Pages from their articles) - it was a fight-back response of long-bottled frustration from gamers against journalists sparked by how in a period of 48 hours about a dozen articles in different outlets declared the gamer culture to be over and finished (the "Gamers Are Dead") in a coordinated attack via a mailing list called GameJournoPros. So it's really a war between gamers and "games journalists" and their various allies and fellow travelers (other journalists, grievance-studies academia), who completely control the official narrative. It's a very long story very short. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 12:44, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Maybe that isn't such a good topic for you (or me). I’ve heard a little about gamergate and prefer to steer clear. How are things looking for potential GA/FA promotion on the Arthurian legend articles? Do you see any candidates? _Talk 📧 12:54, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

If you want to get the real story, I recommend https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Gamergate-Social-History-Revolt-ebook/dp/B074PC6318 (there's a free audiobook version too: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfZhTJTjMVlKJcQkGRggMFbyKEMuENQQp). I'm not interested in doing GAs at all and I guess I'll just keep rewriting them without end in sight anyway, these subjects are just incredibly complicated and I'm still only slowly learning and keep correcting my own mistakes all the time. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 12:59, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

But if you're personally interested, I think I did Merlin (poem) about right at least. I also moved parts of it to Robert de Boron and elsewhere to make it more concise. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 16:55, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Wonderful. I'll take a look at it today. Thank you! _Talk 📧 17:35, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm actually intrigued by the idea of an Oversexualization of women in video games article. I'll definitely have to gather sources for that. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 09:03, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Only if you place it in Category:Urban legends, along with the likes of Satanic ritual abuse‎ and other such moral panics. Category:Hoaxes in the United States and Category:Mass hysteria too. (talk) 09:11, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

I mean, it's not really any of that, it's just a difference opinion between these criticisms and your beliefs on the matter. I suggest you relax and stop creating a hysteria over these criticisms. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 10:28, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

If you give a title "Oversexualization of women in video games", instead if something like "Criticism of sexuality / sexual themes in video games", then yes, it will be "a hysteria" indeed, but not mine. Btw, there is already the article Video game controversies, largely about the hysteria related to the so-called "violent games" (no video game was ever violent, unlike many conventional sports), but there is a section "sexual themes" as well. (I also happened to write the article Controversies surrounding Mortal Kombat myself.) Oh, and there is Sex and nudity in video games too, as i just found out. --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 10:57, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

We're talking about the reaction, and the concept of 'oversexualization of women in video games' is a specific subject that gets a lot of press. We're just writing about what critics and authors have written about. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 11:09, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Also, I would suggest that you relax, again. There is nothing happening that requires the tension you're exhibiting. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 11:18, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm relaxed, and if you talk about "the concept of 'oversexualization of women in video games'" than you need to talk of The concept of oversexualization of women in video games, but really you need to rather go to one of many articles, such as, again: Video game controversies and Sex and nudity in video games, but also for example Gender representation in video games, and possibly more. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 11:24, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

I mean, video game controversies is a thing, and then gender representation in video games in a thing in that. Going further, oversexualization is a very specific concept, not necessarily merely a topic of sex and nudity. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 11:27, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

With Gender representation in video games you can also talk about a possible "concept of 'oversexualization of men in video games'" in a relevant section. And btw, as I'm writing about Lancelot, Lancelot-Grail, and Lancelot propane accessories right now, I find quite bemusing Misplaced Pages's use of 'damsel in distress' in video games as something somehow anti-women, but that's the same Misplaced Pages that as I also just found out for example claims GamerGate happened in 2013 (and commented on it with ). But I'm going to just pretend it's not "mine" Misplaced Pages of fact and science, its just the Clown World Misplaced Pages as our world converge. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 11:29, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Citing a factual error seems like a pretty weak reason to claim that Misplaced Pages is clownish. That said, the claim is not that women being damsels in distress is a bad thing, the claim is that it is too commonly used a trope. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 11:44, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Oh, and if you insist on a separate article (that i will then try to have redirected anyway), I'd suggest quote marks of "oversexualization". Kinda like my fellow potato-patriots insisted on the old Polish death camps to be turned into the "Polish death camp" controversy, becuase they were fucking German camps, see (note for my watchers: a "wide and diverse group of people", them Germans, not "generally horrible" at all). --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 11:45, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Why are you switching topics constantly? This is an impossible conversation to have if you're just creating things for me to reply to. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 11:48, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

I think I said all. --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 11:52, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

I would agree with that, yes. I mean, if you just wanted a soapbox to talk about your grievances, then I'll leave you be. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 11:53, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

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You may be blocked for copyright issues

You need to stop using those images you uploaded en masse to commons until people have had a chance to review and delete those that are copyright violations. Some of the images are fine but too many are direct copyright violations to be unasable, and you've been told this at WT:VG. You should not be touching any file space stuff until you're giving the all clear, or otherwise you will likely find yourself blocked for copyright issues. --Masem (t) 16:55, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

I specifically asked you (plural you) to help with images, was told to fuck off. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 16:56, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

When you create the copyright problems it is up to you to resolve them. If you feel that is not your responsibility, then that's even more reason to block to make others clean up the problems you made. --Masem (t) 16:58, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Masem - are the images in question the ones he just uploaded at Commons, or local uploads on WP? _Talk 📧 17:15, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

They're commons uploads looks like. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 17:45, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Also what I expected was "wow, how awesome, how can I help you in that project". For once. My obvious mistake was even trying because I should have known you people. And what does it even mean "not be touching any file space stuff until you're giving the all clear"? SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 17:32, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

SNAAAAKE, Masem was being helpful by steering you away from a potential copyvio block. My interpretation of the "all clear" is that he's advising you to discuss on the TP where you intend to add images, and if you are uncertain if there's a copyvio, then ask someone before you upload. That's all. _Talk 📧 17:51, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

I agree with that sentiment. Also, SNAAAAKE!!, a reason why you come off so poorly is because you come off as if you are imposing tasks on people, not asking people if they're interested in collaboration. So my suggestion to you is to reevaluate how you speak to others. I've talked to some users who don't want to be in the same conversation as you because you come off very aggressively. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Also, when people point out that your images have a lot of issues, you need to respond appropriately. Getting defensive and accusatory is not an acceptable response. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 18:58, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

People usually don't even respond on article talk pages to anything at all, and especially if it's some old game that is not huge. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 17:56, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Whenever you have images to upload, I don't mind helping you as an OTRS editor on Commons. Also, for future reference - if you're the photog/copyright owner and you're uploading images of people, you have to have signed releases from the people unless it's in an open public place. GRuban is my go-to for hard to find images. He's the editor who helped us with the Arthurian images, remember? _Talk 📧 17:43, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Image copyright is complicated. It looks like most of the latest images are freely released photos of copyrighted objects. Which is admittedly a weird thing. Basically, in general, if Bob takes a photo of something, Bob has the right to release the photo. However, if Walt Disney Studios makes a movie, Bob can't take his camera into the movie theater, take a photo or video of the movie screen, then release that photo, because it would be a derived work of the copyrighted movie frame, which Walt Disney Studios has not released. Then there are exceptions to this exception (de minimis, freedom of panorama, etc.), but in general you do need to see whether the thing you are making the picture of is copyrighted. Don't panic too much about being bitten, no one is born knowing this stuff, we all have to learn it the hard way, by having someone slap our wrists with the virtual ruler. Just don't make this mistake again. Feel free to make mistakes again - just don't make this one. Make different ones! --GRuban (talk) 16:25, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

If you have images you would like to upload to commons, have questions about, you can ask me. I'm not a Commons admin (which is probably why I can afford to make this offer unlike the admins above!), but I am a License reviewer, which means I've learned a few things. Put a link on either my EN or Commons talk page, and I'll look into it, usually within a couple of days. --GRuban (talk) 16:33, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 16:39, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

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I have asked you to focus on Arthurian legends. If you don't stay away from the gaming articles, you are going to be t-banned from them. It's time for you to take a break and learn how to present a succinct argument, and then drop the stick. Acknowledge that you understand what I'm saying, please sir? I'm trying my best here, but I need you to try, too. _Talk 📧 15:45, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

I honestly appreciate you trying to steer their activity to a subject that does not cause the user to be so aggressive and upset. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 17:06, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

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Your question 'Are lies allowed?' is much harder to answer than it might appear. But as you say you need an answer: Essentially no. But it is something that is impossible for admins to consistently enforce. Very often what appears to be a lie is just a mistake. Or a result of other people placeing different weightings on the reliability of different sources. Or dozens of other reasons. Sorry I don't have time to give you a better answer, I have to go now as have some urgent real life issues to sort out. Atsme is in many ways wiser than me - I hope you get the chance to speak to her by email or whatever she reccomends, as she can help you understnad these things. I'll say a prayer for you and your friend.

PS -please don't post more on the admin board for now unless Atsme advises it. FeydHuxtable (talk) 13:15, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. Yeah, I won't. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 13:34, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome. Just on that new issue you raised - it's very common for folk to post with avatars of different genders at some point in their lifes. Some just want a little taste of what it's like on the other side. Another reason is sometimes it reflects a need to have / express / imitate the energy of the opposite gender (or a specific person). Yet another reason is sometimes everyone profound needs a mask. There's all sorts of reasons, and as said it's very common, though most would only do it for a short time in their lifes.

Just came back to say sorry about rushing away. Despite my RL issues, I would stay and talk to you more if wasn't for Atsme having arrived. Its probably for the best as I have a different style, & I might get in her way if I stay around. Bye for now. FeydHuxtable (talk) 13:49, 3 July 2019 (UTC)