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	I've never actually been involved in any mythological articles, and I don't remember why I created the redirect. I suspect that I typed "Catalan mythology" into the search box, discovered that it didn't exist, and created a redirect to the existing ] article, to help people find the existing article. I would have no objection to you moving ] to ]; I don't know anything about how those articles are usually named. Good luck! -- ] 22:18, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
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			== Re: 'Xinjiang' in ] ==
	Go on, guess.
	] 20:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
			I thought I'd let you know that I reverted your edits in ] because I neither saw a point nor an improvement. I say the same thing in my edit summary but with more words; feel free to see my edit and lmk if you've any problems. I sound pretty rude in this talkpage section—I'm not ''trying ''to be mean—I just keep these short for everyone's sake and it sounds especially curt in this one; I apologise. —] (]) 12:57, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
	I'm here only for peaceful purposes, but i suggest you look at donncha's page
			:{{ping|Peter coxhead}} You thanked me for my edit and apparently chose to let it stand for four days thereafter, implying that you saw the benefit of the edit. I think the benefit is pretty self-evident even disregarding my edit summar. What do you make of the above? If the majority of third-party input is negative, I'd be happy to drop the stick and just agree to disagree, but I get the impression this is not the case here. Apart from you, I can only assume that a not-insignificant proportion of the 57 "page watchers who visited recent edits" were also aware of my edit and either approved of it or at least didn't disapprove. The lack of a coherent explanation for the revert, however, implies that it was made primarily because of a subjective ] interpretation. ] (<small>]]</small>) 13:06, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
	] 22:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
			::Well, I agree that the great majority of our readers are not going to know where Xinjiang is, so by itself it's not helpful, and readers should not have to follow wikilinks if a short gloss can be provided. I guess a compromise could be something like "Xinjiang, northwestern China" or "northwestern China (Xinjiang)"? ] (]) 13:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
			::All interpretations of ] are going to be subjective. I did say that I thought the vaguer 'northwestern China' was less ideal than simply 'Xinjiang' with a wikilink in my edit summary; however I should've made it clear in my edit that I do have a reason specific to the context of the paragraph for choosing the latter. You make an understandable point about 'southern Kazakhstan' in your most recent edit summary, but to be clear 'northwest China' is a more vague term when compared to the former in this context—which is strictly geographical. 'Hills of southern Kazakhstan' unambiguously only refers to the hills in the Kazakh ] in the far south of the country, the same mountain range that spans across much of the rest of hilly Central Asia, while what conventionally constitutes 'northwestern China' contains multiple mountain ranges with different climates (Tian Shan, ], ], the mountain ranges of the ] and the ]). Only Xinjiang's hills (the Chinese Tian Shan) were the native range of the wild apple tree is the impression I get from glossing over the article text. This makes 'northwestern China' a decidedly vaguer term to refer specifically to the Chinese Tian Shan, in Xinjiang, than southern Kazakhstan is for the Kazakh Tian Shan—so it is not an apples to apples comparison. In summation, "Xinjiang, China" is precise and unambiguous both in the geographic sense for that paragraph and also to the layman (I explain this is my second point more) while also being the shortest possible; "Xinjiang, northwestern China" or "northwestern China (Xinjiang)" does remedy all my concerns, but so did the first phrasing and it didn't need to be as wordy or precise and preserved ]; and I hope we can stay off "northwestern China" with what I just said.
			::Secondly, also for you {{ping|Peter coxhead|p=}}, I agree that usually it would not be ideal that something is only put in proper context to readers when they click into another article, but here in this paragraph it is straightforward to infer from the context that Xinjiang is a place in Central Asia and it has hills where the wild apple tree grew/grows. Which is more than sufficient context for this article and that paragraph about the original range of the wild apple tree, is what I was saying. If a reader wants to know more about the Xinjiang they easily follow the wikilink. I am opposed to a pipelink on 'northwestern China' like it is rn, because of ]—I don't see the point in pipelinking when "Xinjiang, China" is concise, precise, unambiguous, and follows link clarity. I am also not in support of either "Xinjiang, northwestern China" or "northwestern China (Xinjiang)" when "Xinjiang, China" is on the table and perfect in my eyes. —] (]) 15:12, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
			:::I think you missed my point about IFITAINTBROKE -- it's subjective and so is ''not'' a good rationale to unilaterally revert an edit that other third parties have already (tacitly) approved of. And speaking of subjectivity, your definition of "northwest" is definitely not something most readers would agree with, as most of the mountains/ranges you refer to are ''kinda'' in "northwestern China", but only if you take "China" to refer to ] as opposed to the modern political entity. Almost all of our readers would consider the places you list to be in north-central or even just central China, and ''definitely not'' "central Asia". "Xinjiang", to most of our reader, just sounds like "some place in China", and almost none of them would read "northwest China" as meaning "northwest of the Han Chinese homeland that constitutes the southeastern portion of the modern country called China" (and even those who, like you and me, know about "China proper" should be able to tell from "central Asia" that it is talking about Xinjiang and not, say, Shaanxi).
			:::I'm not sure where you hail from originally, but I can tell you from experience that Japanese tourism companies often like to refer to ] as being in "west Japan" because that's how they talk to other Japanese people, because the Japanese school social studies textbooks (which of course focus on "]" and "]" rather than using a ruler or compass to establish where the "western half" and "eastern half" of the Japanese archipelago is), and oftentimes it's my job to (try to) tell them that foreign tourists who don't know about Japanese history and culture are more likely to look at a map and consider Kyoto to be in central Japan rather than western Japan. English Misplaced Pages articles are supposed to be written with a "general reader" in mind, and general readers don't know anything more than the tourists in my above analogy. (I have to imagine that no sane tour director in China would use the phrase ] and assume that American and European tourists know what it actually means without an explanation -- our articles on China can use it, but preferably with language like our ] article that makes it clear that it is talking about an official designation and not objective placement on the map. Our article on apples is ''not'' an article on China, and no reader is going to assume we are using GOC-designated region names rather than general-use English. And again, even those who are familiar with the Chinese government's terminology should be able tell from the reference to "central Asia", since no one considers Shaanxi to be in central Asia.)
			:::] (<small>]]</small>) 15:54, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
			::::BTW, the above argument for using "Xinjiang" (that "northwestern China" includes other mountains to which the statement doesn't apply) could almost certainly be turned on its head as an argument ''against'' using "Xinjiang", since I strongly suspect its not "all mountains in Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region" that are being talked about. (That said, I just checked and couldn't find where the information was taken from.) ] (<small>]]</small>) 16:13, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
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	Hey Ian, how do I revert changes made to my page by certain shrews? ] 14:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
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	==Regarding your post on the Falun Gong Talk Page==
	Friend,
	I read you post on the Falun Gong talk page. The page was locked after a great deal of vandalism and there is a lot of such material and non-facutal stuff inside. I request your help in editing the article. And also with the page :
			== Sorry to intrude/a suggestion ==
	You may also get to better understand the cultivation system of Falun Dafa from the website www.falundafa.org
	Thanks.
	] 11:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
			Hi, can I suggest you only create new pages or edit those with zero people disagreeing with you. Though basically an intolerable imposition, the Encyclopedia is nearer the start than the end and it still leaves plenty of pages current and future. Clearly you have lots of enemies here and likely others who will try to take you out via noticeboards rather than engage in meaningful discussion. It's basically the course I follow. Much more fun in reality and productive that way, though the temptations are great, ] (]) 17:09, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
	==On Swastika==
			:{{ping|Maculosae tegmine lyncis}} I think I know what you're referring to, and it has nothing to do with creating new pages. You might also note that, in the discussion in question, I was quite clear several times that I would be happy to agree to disagree if I wasn't in the clear majority of uninvolved editors. The "fight" wasn't even mine to begin with -- one editor with whom I have a history of agreements reverted another editor with whom I have a history of disagreements, but in this case it was my opinion that the latter editor was clearly in the right. If you disagree, please make a coherent argument to that effect on the article talk page. That being said, per the below I'd like to disengage from the discussion in question anyway.
	I understand that Hitler appropriated the ancient Symbol for his use.. You may aprreciate my edit better if you see the last version:"The Falun emblem is the symbol of the Falun Gong. According to Li “this Falun emblem is the miniature of the universe.” The central character is the Chinese 卍, wàn. Unfortunately, the similarity to the Nazi Hakenkreuz provokes relapse in schizophrenics, who perceive spurious connections." :)
			:I see that there's also an ANI notice above this. I guess it was a mistake to edit the article in question in the manner that I did.{{ping|Nardog}} I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings. This was not my intention, and I am honestly quite surprised that this found its way onto ANI. I had a sincere belief that your edit harmed the article, and the fact that another editor whose edits to that article over the last month I have generally ''dis''agreed with seemed to share my belief led me to believe that it was highly likely the majority of Wikipedians would as well. I am on a self-imposed ANI page-ban for the purpose of avoiding drama, so I will not respond to you there or interact with this dispute about the IPA in that particular article's opening sentence again. If you still believe you are in the right and no other editors decided to revert you, you have my blessing in reinserting the disputed content.
			:] (<small>]]</small>) 03:05, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
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	The Swastika is an ancient symbol that appears in many traditions from the mayan, the mesopotamian, The Greek to the The indus Valley Civilization ( which according to the theories of present day anthropology was wiped out in the "Aryan" Invasion ):
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	Infact a lot of what the texts on anthropolgy tell is far from accurate. We have enough evidence to completely re-write the books on anthropolgy. The swastika is not an invention of any religion or culture. Gautama Buddha didnt take the Symbol from Hinduism. This is because they consider the Dharma to be some form of speculative philosophy and theory taken from old texts... The ancient scriptures of vedic India solemnly affirm that the Dharma is not specualtve Philosophy. The Buddhist Scriptures tell us:
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	I'd be glad if you could contribute to the article... Falun Dafa is an ancient cultivation practice ( direct translation of the Chinese Term Xiu Lian ), a Great Way (Dafa) of the Buddha School ( pls dont confuse with the relgion of Buddhism). You may get to understand the cultivation system of Falun Dafa from the page www.falundafa.org . Thank you.
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	Hi Elevenscout, I was the author of the sentence that you removed as vandalism. I have added my response to ], can you take a look and let me know if you can change your mind. -- ] 00:40, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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	Hi there... if this was you logged out... :-) --] 20:06, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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			== Deletion of referenced paragraph at ''Mottainai'' ==
	:Is that right? Are all those IPs vandalism edits then in the page history? --] 20:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
			I just saw at '']''. Was rather shocked to read the edit summary ("Consistent consensus against this over the last three years"), which is disruptive, while interpreting a consensus where there is none in the sense you describe. Hope you're not going to cause trouble (again) at that article, per your unblock conditions (). I suggest you revert that deletion, and apologise for its less-than-constructive edit summary. Thanks. --] (]) 08:31, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
	::Hmm...well, it sure looks like it. I'm going to semi-protect the page. It seems to be the best solution, given that the vandalism is chronic. Cheers! --] 20:18, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
			:I have self-reverted. The vast majority of the "1,444b" was tag rationales written by me. The content was unsourced, and I only removed it because I thought no one was still arguing about this. I have no idea what your interest in the page is, or why you are here. Please leave me alone. ] (<small>]]</small>) 08:47, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
			== Harrassment by this Wikipedian ==
	:::No problem. Consider yourself armed with an admin on your side :-) I'll do my best to make sure these accounts act in accordance with Misplaced Pages's established policies and best practises. After all, we are here because we want to write a good encyclopedia! Vandalism edits are contrary to that cause. Just come by and leave a message whenever you feel like it, and I'll take the time to look into things for you. See you around! --] 20:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
			I would just like to leave here for posterity's sake that this wikipedian was harassing me on my own talk page, . Please leave me alone. I am allowed to make edits on Misplaced Pages. You do not own the haiku page. ] 10:54, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
	::::Hi there - I think a few months should be plenty so I've lifted it. I'll check up every now and then. Let me know if you have questions. --] 02:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
			:I apologize if I gave the impression of harassing you. This was not my intention. I went to your talk page because it seemed inappropriate to ask you for clarification of what you meant on the article talk page, which is for discussing improvements to the article, and I was under the impression that the article edit in question was already resolved. After I attempted to discuss it with you on your talk page further, however, you went back to the article and reverted your text back in, without explanation, simply leaving a cryptic message that I can "change that sentence, if want ..."
			:Anyway, with regard to the response to me that you have now posted on your talk page, while simultaneously banning me from responding to you there for some reason: if you still intend on inserting question material, based on unreliable English poetry sources, into an article that is ''specifically'' about Japanese poetry (the ] article exists for this reason), then I am going to have to ask you to stop. This is not because I feel I "own" the article or that you are not allowed make edits to this article (or any other article on the encyclopedia) -- this is about ] content that has already been debunked, while refusing to engage in civil discussion over it.
			:] (<small>]]</small>) 11:07, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
			::{{ping|Staticshakedown}} Please refrain from making counterproductive personal remarks in edit summaries, as you did . Your personal attacks and off-topic accusations against me on my talk page can be removed by anyone at any time, but that edit summary will need an admin to remove it. ] (<small>]]</small>) 13:31, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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	== Laozi ==
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	You seem to have missed the evidence that I gave; I listed a number of books on philosophy, Asian philosophy, and Chinese philosophy (in order of specificity); the spelling used was overwhelmingly "Laozi".
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	:A quick and unscientific survey of fairly recent reference books to hand, plus some Web-based texts:
	:*'''Laozi'''
	:#''Companion Encyclopedia of Asian Philosophy'' (edd Carr & Mahalingam)
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	"Lao Zi" doesn't appear anywhere, and "Laozi" is the clear front runner. --] (] 13:33, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
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	:Note that "reliability" doesn't really come into it; the various transliterations are equally correct &mdash; they're all attempt to capture in the Roman alphabet the sound of the Chinese by applying a set of conventions, and they're all bound to fail (for example, in so far as there isn't a single Chinese pronunciation across time and geography). --] (]) 11:05, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
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			I have left the discussion on this topic. I want to let you know that I have felt your tone to be aggressive and it has left me upset and not wanting to take part in this encyclopedia project at all for the time being. Please consider others' mental health and try to be more civil in future rather than lashing out. All my comments were honestly made, despite the fact that I made a comprehension error (and an error on who the original post was made by). please assume good faith more often? ]<sup>]</sup> 14:44, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
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			:I am sorry if you felt intimidated, but you quoted my words at me as though I had made the exact opposite point that I had actually made, I asked you not to do so, and then you did the exact same thing again. It is good practice to (i) not do this kind of thing in the first place and (ii) immediately and frankly apologize when it is pointed out. Doubling down and then playing the victim is extremely poor form -- I made numerous attempts to be welcoming to you and to accommodate your apparent interest in creating an article on female martial artists in Japan, and politely explained to you how, for example, LLC books (i.e., Misplaced Pages mirrors) cannot be used as sources, and you have reacted with nothing but passive-aggressive hostility and distortion of the record. ] (<small>]]</small>) 14:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
	Hi, can you explain this of yours to the abovenamed article? You have not entitled us to an edit summary, unlike my . Please acknowledge this message. Thanks and regards, --] 12:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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	:Thanks for your help; and er... Happy Birthday. :) --] 13:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
			:::You responded to my that "onna-musha" may not be an ideal title for a hypothetical article that discusses the lives of women of the ''buke'' class but that "onna-bugeisha" is substantially worse by quoting the first part and cutting out everything after "but". The fact is that I was clearly never talking about "onna-musha" being an inappropriate title for an article on women warriors like the one we have now; you may not have known this until I explicitly set you straight the first time, but there was no excuse for doubling down after that. Anyway, if you want to bow out, that's fine -- I would prefer if you'd acknowledge that you were wrong (I'm still worried that you will insert ] citations into other articles...), but as long as you leave me alone, that's fine. Happy editing! ] (<small>]]</small>) 15:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
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	I'd like to go ahead and expand the ] article, based on inspiration from the entire sections present in the French version that were absent in the English version. Are you back from your two-week hiatus? I don't want to step in and do too much before you've had a chance to go in and do what you wanted to... ] 00:36, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
			I'd like to request your expert eyes on the article ]. There has been a surge of media reporting on the man (particularly with the upcoming Netflix anime about him), and there's some back-and-forth in the article's history with respect to him being a samurai or not. There's the book ''African Samurai: The True Story of a Legendary Black Warrior in Feudal Japan'' by Thomas Lockley and Geoffrey Girard about him, if that's any help (Lockley is often interviewed by the media for the aforementioned pieces). I'm only getting bits of the book's info on Google Books, but it says something about him being a '']'': "It is not known exactly which rank Yasuke held, but it would probably have been equivalent to hatamoto. The hatamoto saw to the lord’s needs, handling everything from finance to transport, communications to trade. They were also the bodyguards and pages to the warlord, traveling with him and spending their days in his company." This put a red flag for me that some of the nuance is lost in the media, which often uncritically calls him a samurai.
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			:{{re|Goszei}} I might take a look, but (i) I'm not that familiar with the Azuchi-Momoyama period to begin with, (ii) Japanese encyclopedias generally don't have standalone entries on him (which both makes it difficult for me to go about preliminary research in the way I normally do and makes me skeptical about the standalone notability of Yasuke as a historical figure, at least as a figure of ''Japanese'' history), and (iii) I suspect recent interest in him may be politically motivated: white power-brokers in America and Europe trying to play up the importance of an African man to pre-modern Japanese history to avoid addressing systemic issues in their own countries at the expense of people in "the far off Orient". As a white European in Japan (who by necessity must frequently interact with other white westerners who, despite living in Japan, still get most of their information on the country's history from American popular media) this topic makes me quite uncomfortable in the current climate—and this isn't even getting into the abominable goings on in Atlanta last month and the aftermath thereof. I am inclined to say the best move would be to wait until the hype around the show dies down, then go in and excise any information attributed to popular media sources not backed up by professional scholarship.
			:As an aside, from everything I've read, even the word "samurai" is problematic: professional Japanologists seem to prefer to talk about "the warrior class", meaning that "samurai" is essentially ]. As for Japanese usage, ''Kojien'' gives the primary meaning of "same as ''saburai'', i.e. someone who serves a lord closely" (by which definition it would be a truism, but practically meaningless, to say that Yasuke was a "samurai"), and below that says that in the ] (the period in which Yasuke lived) the word was used to distinguish certain people from common peasants (in that case, it's a truism that Yasuke and other foreigners were neither samurai nor common peasants).
			:] (<small>]]</small>) 05:06, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
			::BTW, there's also the distinct possibility that a lot of this goes back to the fantasy manga/anime '']'': the title of the book you refer to is almost certainly deliberately playing on that show's title. ] (<small>]]</small>) 05:08, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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	Regarding to the ] article: Although Lafcadio Hearn is largely forgotten in the West, he is still remember and respected by the Japanese for his books collecting Japanese legends and ghost tales. Therefore I am restoring the phrase "to the Japanese" to the intro of the article. ]] 10:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
			:I mean... I know that, but I'm not trying to win anyone over. I wanted to fix the "onabu-]" hoax, and unless you or some unnamed third party are trying to undo that, I don't see any disagreement, let alone a need to argue or convince anyone. ] (<small>]]</small>) 12:42, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
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			'''Retarget''' It seems like anyone who knew about the automated retargeting of double-redirects could have anticipated that the bot wouldn't know to fix the said redirects once the vandal edit was reverted, but was this all a long-game plan to TFD the legit redirect {{noredirect|3.11}} that I created back in 2013 as part of a mass-TFD of others that another NZ IP (the same person?) had caused to be created in 2019? All of these TFDs were opened today by the same person, and the 2019 vandalism geolocates to the same place. Call me paranoid, but this is super-fishy. I also got a notification that {{user|Polyamorph}} "reviewed" the 3.11 page at roughly the same time as the above TFD. Does anyone have any idea what's going on here? ] (<small>]]</small>) 16:08, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
	What is origin of this ] ? ] 10:19, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
			:Assuming you mean RFD rather than TFD, then it doesn't strike me as problematic at all. When someone spots one bad redirect to a page (either stumbling across it or seeing it at RfD) it's not unusual to look and see whether there are any other ones that also need looking at - the connection between "3.11" and the target is not at all obvious to me I've never seen it referred to as such and it doesn't get any prominence at all in my google results. Assuming that someone in Australia/New Zealand is seeing something similar to me in the UK, then sending it to redirects for ''discussion'' is perfectly reasonable. As for the vandalism, not everybody thinks (or even knows) to check for any collateral damage when reverting a page move. ] (]) 16:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
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			:{{ping|Elizium23}} I cannot speak to Natemup's behaviour in the area of Roman Catholicism specifically, but when I interacted with him on ] and ], I found his sourcing standards to be woefully inadequate (on the former, he insisted on citing popular media sources even when they disagree with sources written by specialists in the relevant field, while on the latter he cited ''no'' sources for the better part of a month before eventually , while repeatedly vandalized the opening sentence of a relatively prominent article to make a ]). Despite his own edits to these two articles leaving a lot to be desired, he has repeatedly accused me and others of "vandalism" and sockpuppetry (he repeatedly conflated multiple users with accounts with at least two and probably more IP users and implicitly with each other -- I can get the diffs if you need them), and even made what looked like a threat. I am not sure if his involvement in these pages is related to Catholicism: he seems to be subtly pushing the ahistorical idea that the Jesuits in particular and the Catholic Church in general was always opposed to slavery of Africans, and seems to be either ignorant of or willfully pretending to be ignorant of the Catholic Church's blessing being granted to Portuguese and Spanish colonial ambitions in Asia and the Americas, but it's very minor and I might be reading too much in. I am still, frankly, concerned about the possibility of further repercussions for me personally and the articles I have worked on (his behaviour on ] implies he has no problem vandalizing even a highly visible Japanese article for no purpose other than "revenge" against Japan-focused editors who undermined him), and I would rather not involve myself any further, but I can be reached by email. ] (<small>]]</small>) 05:23, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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	The name is sometimes translated as in different books as 'ourselves alone' or 'we alone' this is incorrect, as it means 'ourselves' or 'we ourselves' this is a translation from Irish Gaelic to English, so the text in the article is correct.--] 22:30, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
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			Hijiri 88, it's perfectly OK to suspect editors or IPs of sockpuppetry. It's also OK to publicly mention this suspicion once or twice, in order to draw the attention of other editors to this possibility. It's ''not'' OK to go on publicly speculating about this or representing it as facts. Please take this to ] and stop posting about it on ANI. Thank you! <span style="text-shadow:#000 0em 0em 1em">☿&nbsp;] (]&nbsp;])</span> 04:30, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
	i'm sorry Elvenscout742, the DVD cover uploaded has such poor resolution i couldn't see the "The" and mistook "Swordsman" to be the original title. i will move the article back to its original title and upload a DVD cover art with a slightly better resolution. Thanks for the heads-up! --] 04:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
			:FWIW, I did only mention it once (if that), and I was only repeating something someone had already said without incident. I then was met with two editors saying, completely out of the blue and without justification "Why are you accusing me of sockpuppetry!?" time after time after time.
			:Personally, I think it is super-suspicious that, when someone says "The OP logged out to file this report, and hasn't disclosed the name of their account", an accounted editor comes along and assumes, without justification, that the account being referred to is their own, but I didn't even say that I found this suspicious until like the third time it happened in a comment in which I was pinged (and the ''first'' time I was pinged wasn't even the first time it had happened within that same thread).
			:I think I've made it clear that I'd rather remove myself from the discussion, and I would be happy to let Wally have the last word as long as he doesn't ping me to do it. I ''do'' think TOA should be blocked for the multiple unprovoked and unapologetic personal attacks against me ({{tq|Comparing editors to Nazis}} is actually one of the specific examples listed at ] -- it's actually what got the famous {{noping|Til Eulenspiegel}} <small>initially</small> banned <small>from editing English Misplaced Pages</small>), as well as his continued harassment of MPants, and ''the fact that he is an indeffed vandal who was given ] and has been abusing it'', but I would prefer to leave that to the community to decide. Hijiri out.
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	:Done. I think we'll keep it this way. --] 22:18, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
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			{{ping|Blue Pumpkin Pie}} I decided to remove myself from the toxic atmosphere of the "main" ] article two months ago because of the hell Natemup created. (Email me for the details if you want. I'm not comfortable disclosing them on-wiki.) I am therefore not going to post the following to the talk page itself.
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			:I wasn't aware of changes made to the historical Yasuke page, but I'm very much aware of a few editors trying to remove any mention of "samurai" (including the removal of "samurai conflict"). The truth of the matter is that majority of samurai were of the noble class, but not all of them. A notable example happens to be the most famous one in ], who was born the son of a farmer and became samurai, general, and daimyo himself. And Hideyoshi's rise in status, same as Yasuke's time, was during Nobunaga's time. So the idea of "Yasuke can't be samurai because he wasn't of noble birth" is 100% flawed when you literally had it happen in Hideyoshi. I've seen people play "what they really mean" and try to discredit sources when it comes to the issue and if sources say that he was a samurai and historians say this as well, then it should be a foregone conclusion to add sources. If you have a good source that says it, by all means add it. Removing "samurai" or wholesale removal of sources to reflect a non-consensus POV or bullying a POV push is not even close to right.
			:As far as this article goes, the source material states that he is samurai, the creator said he is samurai, the sources say that he is samurai, and so on So any removal of that or sources reflecting that is just wrongheaded especially when the sources back up the source material. Stormshadows00 19:11, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
			:::{{tq|editors trying to remove any mention of "samurai" (including the removal of "samurai conflict")}} Please do not make disruptive, inflammatory remarks like this. I did not remove any classification of the character in this show as a samurai ''because the show is fiction'' and the writers of the show can portray their characters however they like. I removed awkward prose because, you know, it's awkward. BTW, reopening this discussion after the OP very nearly got in big trouble for his behaviour on this and related pages and probably doesn't want to come back here... strikes me as a bit inappropriate. ] (<small>]]</small>) 10:16, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
			::You don't remove sources just because you don't believe they're accurate if they were verified and credible sources. What you can do as an alternative is add more information that counters it in order for it to have due weight.] (]) 21:12, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
	== Hello mate, can you help me please ==
			:::Stormshadows00 is completely correct here. I read in WG Beasley's "The Meiji Restoration" (page 33) that daimyos could grant samurai status to commoners for a wide variety of reasons. Historian Thomas Lockely has written in his books that Yasuke was almost certainly granted such samurai status. But the idea that samurai status is strictly hereditary is obviously wrong. Constantine Nomikos Vaporis, a very prominent historian, notes in "Samurai : an encyclopedia of Japan's cultured warriors" that there were many parts of Japan where most of samurai were those who recently purchased their rank. In Tosa during the late-Tokugawa period, the large majority of the samurai had purchased the rank within their own lifetimes. Anyway, the reason why every available source describes Yasuke as a samurai is because he obviously was a samurai. Katemeshi101 06:49, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
	Its about a Chinese girl who becomes an assassin but runs away. She eventually finds a girl but is intercepted on the road by 3 or 4 soldiers. After killing them, she returns back to her adopted home to find out theres been a battle and a deranged white haired bloke is the sole survivor. After killing him, she discovers one of her mates has also survived and the both of them swear revenge on the Chinese Lord responsible which happens in the sequal.--] (] • ]) 17:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
			::::{{tq|I read in WG Beasley's "The Meiji Restoration"}} Please refrain from telling lies. You never read that book: you Googled up a source that said what you wanted it to. {{tq|Historian Thomas Lockely}} Umm... citation needed? Lockley is an English teacher with a hobbyist's interest in history, but his reason for claiming that Yasuke was, to use your words, {{tq|almost certainly granted such samurai status}} is based on a misreading of a passage in a seemingly-late, possibly-derivative variant text of the ''Shinchōki'' that refers to Yasuke being granted a dagger with a decorative scabbard, which he presents as a passage in the prototype text of the ''Shinchōki'' that refers to Yasuke being granted a sword, "the symbol of the samurai". {{tq|the idea that samurai status is strictly hereditary is obviously wrong}} That is irrelevant to the topic at hand, and it's interesting that you chose to make the exact same, irrelevant, argument as another editor did two months ago. ] (<small>]]</small>) 10:16, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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			:BTW, I'm ''only'' talking about "samurai" thing (which shouldn't have been brought to that article to begin with -- it was blatant ]ping/]sing). I'm still happy to chime in on the stuff that can still be handled as a good-faith content dispute (even when two or three of the editors are apparently not good-faith actors), and that includes the use of the phrase "Sengoku period of samurai conflict" that makes the Misplaced Pages article look like it was written by James Clavell. ] (<small>]]</small>) 10:22, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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	:''which shares the same name'' - I changed it to that..but it sounds rather awkward. perhaps ''which shares the same name in ] languages''? ] 00:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
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			{{ping|CycoMa|Crossroads}} I don't think I was the referent of , but I think it probably applies to me just as well. This was not a conscious or deliberate decision on my part, but rather how things just tend to work out because, per ], I have a tendency to assume that whenever someone expresses skepticism about my knowledge of a topic that I definitely know substantially more about than they do (in this case, Japanese pronouns), they are asking a good-faith question and it is my responsibility to explain as thoroughly and carefully so they can gain the same level of understanding and therefore, hopefully, come around to my way of thinking.
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			My ]ping the Utada discussion to WP:LGBT was actually a complete accident -- the was really just a general question that, if I had got a straight answer up front, would have made it easier to argue coherently. Being a straight cisgender male who has lived in Japan since around the time Twitter was invented, most of what I know about "preferred pronouns" comes from randomly consumed pop culture rather than any academic study or the lived experience of myself or anyone I know personally. It's therefore difficult for me to understand the way of thinking of someone who is not an Utada fan but came to that article because of an interest in LGBTQ+ topics.<small> And for the sake of full disclosure, under the influence of some friends who are much bigger J-Pop fans than me, I bought a few of Utada's CDs from Book Off back in the early 2010s and enjoyed them, and given Utada's status as a household name in Japan I would have been familiar with her/their work regardless, but I wouldn't consider myself a "fan".</small>
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			Anyway, upon noticing the above comment by CycoMa, I decided that it might be a bad idea to post this:
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			::::That would be the column "gender" for "atashi" where it says {{tq|females, rarely males}}. ] (]) 06:14, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
	* ''See'' p. 555 n1.
			:::::<small>(Sorry, didn't notice the duplicate. My response above was not as visible as it probably would have been here, so duplicating.)</small> I'll have to get back to you. An initial Googling brought up and as sources indicating that ''atashi'' is mainly used by women and "doesn't seem to be used by men". In ten years living in Japan, I don't think I've ever heard a man use ''atashi'' to describe themselves (unless one takes the transphobic view that transsexual women using feminine language to emphasize their gender are men in drag and "faking it"). Our article doesn't cite a source, anyway, and I think you're kinda turning ] on its head by demanding that I prove a negative ("no men ever use ''atashi''"): it is '''very''' female-coded, and is strong evidence that our subject either (a) doesn't care about pronouns one way or the other or (b) would prefer if Misplaced Pages and other media continue to use female pronouns. ] (<small>]]</small>) 06:54, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
	* ''See also'' ] and ]
			::::::Sorry! It's not obvious from , but in the interim I asked a friend of mine (an actor) and heard that it is sometimes used by male characters in ] as well as in ]; Japanese Misplaced Pages says the same thing (and presumably if it were wrong someone in Japan would have thought to change it), and now so does English Misplaced Pages. Needless to say, all of this is sub-optimal from a sourcing standpoint, but among Japanese-speakers it is ] that ''atashi'' is feminine (see also ]'s comment below), and the positive claim that it is sometimes used by men is what would need a reliable source under normal circumstances.
	How would you propose we might improve this section of ]? --] (]) 19:43, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
			::::::These are not normal circumstances, mind you: I am not trying to add to or take away from an article's content, but rather gathering evidence of various kinds in support of restoring the female pronouns/determiners in the article. This evidence includes not only (i) Utada's continued use of feminine language<small> (I focused on ''atashi'' because "pronouns" is what pop culture calls the words that were recently changed, most of which are ], although I definitely learned in JCE French that they were "adjectives") </small>but also things like (ii) a Tweet in which Utada explicitly called language from (i) "women's language", (iii) her/their official English website continuing to use female pronouns/determiners in multiple places, and (iv) her/their referring to herself/themselves as a "woman" on at least one occasion since coming out as non-binary<small> ("at least" because if one considers the original Instagram post about Mrs./Miss/Ms. to constitute "coming out", the same post referred to being female as "my sex")</small>.
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	:You misspelled one name. It's no big deal! :D
			See my stricken comment: it's not "publicists" but almost certainly a freelance translation agency, and nothing was "changed" but rather a few new articles were added with ''they''. The main profile page and all news articles prior to this week (assuming this was a "batch" translation), including those since last June, continue to use ''she''. It's likely that the only reason for the inconsistency one way or the other is that it would cost extra to pay a professional copyeditor to change one or the other and neither Utada nor anyone involved in the maintenance of the website cares enough to pay for that. If it were me doing the translation (and it wasn't) it would be unthinkable to change the pronouns without also directly notifying the (non-English-speaking) client that I had done so and recommending that they change the older pages for consistency, so it is important to note that no such change has thus far been made. This may come as a shock to people who live in America or Europe and have never spent time in Japan or dwelt on the websites of Japanese companies, celebrities, etc., but people really care that little about the quality of the "official English versions" of their websites: even the great ]'s official global site has a history section whose that reads {{tq|Presented here is Mitsubishi's journey in the automobile industry since '''the its''' establishment.}}, says "News Release" where it should say "News Releases" or just "News" (it's not a list of ''press'' releases but simply news updates), their page uses full-width commas instead of commas followed by spaces in their address, and what should be {{tq|Number of Board Members}} is {{tq|Member of the Board}} and what should be something like {{tq|CEO and Representative Director}} is instead the utterly bizarre {{tq|Member of the Board Representative Executive Officer,�President & CEO}}; if a multinational corporation with overseas investors and a massive overseas market has a website that looks like this (definitely the result of being farmed out to a general translation service and then "proof-read" in-house by people with minimal English proficiency), then why would we assume the website of a popstar who is almost unheard of outside of Japanese-speaking communities is better when all evidence supports the opposite assertion? ] (<small>]]</small>) 03:32, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
	:I said "Wow" because that article came up in a search for "Narihara", which is a recurring misspelling of that person's name. I was shocked at the prevalence of the spelling online (60,000 hits on Google) and had just come from creating redirects for it to the proper article. I was '''not''' trying to make fun of any particular Misplaced Pages editor. :)
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	You may well be right. Though we may not necessarily be talking about exactly the same type of case, I think the principles of ] are probably worth applying here too. If the article is deleted, you might find that the editors in question simply give up and go away. If not, and they start editing disruptively, I can only imagine others will come down on them hard without the need for you to take any action. So let's just give them enough rope to hang themselves if they are determined to do so.
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			Hi. Your moving description says ""Yamato-kotoba" has technical uses that differ from "wago"'s; both are encyclopedic and merit articles, but they should be separate articles, and this article appears always to have been primarily about wago, NOT yamato-kotoba, so moving page". Can you explain this further? I have been reading linguistic sources about wago/yamato kotoba and ''every one of them'' uses the term interchangably, with wago merely being the more wide-spread term, of Chinese origin. Can you show sources that separate them and show how they "differ"? ] ] 08:00, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
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			:Are you sure? Most ''linguistics'' sources I have read uniformly use "wago" (perhaps because it definitely makes more sense as a pair with "kango"?), while I've mostly seen "yamato-kotoba" used in works of literary history to refer to the poetic lexicon of post-''Kokinshū'' waka and/or non wakankonkō prose. I may have been wrong in my statement four years ago that the latter should have it's own article: if you disagree with said statement, feel free to follow my lead and continue to not create such an article. I fail to see how expecting ''de facto'' semi-retired editors like me to formally renounce all statements from years earlier that we may no longer agree with does the project any good. ] (<small>]]</small>) 11:38, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
			::I merely came across this as I'm writing the ] article on huwiki. No need to bite my head off for asking. Your statement startled me, because it goes against of what I personallyread in sources. So wanted to know where you have read that. All of those sources on the bottom of my huwiki article merely say yamato kotoba is just another name for wago.
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			::So I would be interested to ''see'' those sources that separate the two. Simply because of encyclopedic reasons of showing a topic from several aspects. if there IS serious research about them being different, it should be discussed in the article. I just own a bunch of Japanese language books and none of them do. Cheers. ] ] 10:27, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
			:::Forgive me if I'm misremembering, but did I ever claim I had a source that explicitly stated the distinction? My above reply to you certainly did not make this claim, nor did my edit summary from 2018. In any case, if I recall correctly, is the linguistic work in which I first learned about wago and kango (and gairaigo). Yamatokotoba, meanwhile, was a word I heard in casual conversation numerous times for at least two or three years before that; when penning my reply to you above, I scanned , which (I think?) doesn't mention "wago" but uses "yamato kotoba" in the context of wakan-konkōbun as addressed by Meiji-era literary historians. I hope this has been of some use. ] (<small>]]</small>) 13:41, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
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	Actually, the page you are referring to had '''absolutely nothing''' to do with the user in question. One ], who has been harassing me on numerous articles, went through my edit history and found that I had a prior dispute, and, assuming that I was in the wrong, posted a notice about me in ''his'' user space. I see now that he has deleted that page, so my page is also redundant. However, I was merely adding clarification to a ''completely'' separate issue. I really don't see how responding to a user who has gone through my entire edit history and rooted out every negative interaction I have had with another user qualifies as violating an '''interaction''' ban with that other user. Plus, it should be pointed out that '''I volunteered''' to have the "interaction ban" imposed on myself with a particular aim in mind. The user made the same action. And while I have not interacted with the user at all, that user has apparently been monitoring all of my edits and when I did something that ''might remotely'' be considered a violation immediately went onto your talk page and posted about me. Who was really violating the interaction ban here?? ] (]) 03:39, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
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	:::Elvenscout, one thread on one talk page is enough. I know that that user page was not primarily about Tristan, but that's beside the point: the point is you are not to discuss them. Simple. The rest is just not that interesting to anyone but you and maybe the other parties; if there is something wrong, it needs to be handled through the appropriate channels but it has nothing to do with your ban. That you proposed it, I remember it well and that's great, but you should have realized that it came with restrictions, and you ran into one of those restrictions now. As for the delete request, I have no intention of deleting the previous versions etc; you removed the offending text, great. Time to move on. Thank you, ] (]) 04:45, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
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			Hello, pardon before. But if you dont mind, may i ask if this source is credible for wikipedia?
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Re: 'Xinjiang' in apple

I thought I'd let you know that I reverted your edits in apple because I neither saw a point nor an improvement. I say the same thing in my edit summary but with more words; feel free to see my edit here and lmk if you've any problems. I sound pretty rude in this talkpage section—I'm not trying to be mean—I just keep these short for everyone's sake and it sounds especially curt in this one; I apologise. —I'llbeyourbeach (talk) 12:57, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

@Peter coxhead: You thanked me for my edit and apparently chose to let it stand for four days thereafter, implying that you saw the benefit of the edit. I think the benefit is pretty self-evident even disregarding my edit summar. What do you make of the above? If the majority of third-party input is negative, I'd be happy to drop the stick and just agree to disagree, but I get the impression this is not the case here. Apart from you, I can only assume that a not-insignificant proportion of the 57 "page watchers who visited recent edits" were also aware of my edit and either approved of it or at least didn't disapprove. The lack of a coherent explanation for the revert, however, implies that it was made primarily because of a subjective WP:IFITAINTBROKE interpretation. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:06, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Well, I agree that the great majority of our readers are not going to know where Xinjiang is, so by itself it's not helpful, and readers should not have to follow wikilinks if a short gloss can be provided. I guess a compromise could be something like "Xinjiang, northwestern China" or "northwestern China (Xinjiang)"? Peter coxhead (talk) 13:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

All interpretations of WP:IFITAINTBROKE are going to be subjective. I did say that I thought the vaguer 'northwestern China' was less ideal than simply 'Xinjiang' with a wikilink in my edit summary; however I should've made it clear in my edit that I do have a reason specific to the context of the paragraph for choosing the latter. You make an understandable point about 'southern Kazakhstan' in your most recent edit summary, but to be clear 'northwest China' is a more vague term when compared to the former in this context—which is strictly geographical. 'Hills of southern Kazakhstan' unambiguously only refers to the hills in the Kazakh Tian Shan in the far south of the country, the same mountain range that spans across much of the rest of hilly Central Asia, while what conventionally constitutes 'northwestern China' contains multiple mountain ranges with different climates (Tian Shan, Mount Hua, Qilian Mountains, the mountain ranges of the Tibetan and the Loess Plateau). Only Xinjiang's hills (the Chinese Tian Shan) were the native range of the wild apple tree is the impression I get from glossing over the article text. This makes 'northwestern China' a decidedly vaguer term to refer specifically to the Chinese Tian Shan, in Xinjiang, than southern Kazakhstan is for the Kazakh Tian Shan—so it is not an apples to apples comparison. In summation, "Xinjiang, China" is precise and unambiguous both in the geographic sense for that paragraph and also to the layman (I explain this is my second point more) while also being the shortest possible; "Xinjiang, northwestern China" or "northwestern China (Xinjiang)" does remedy all my concerns, but so did the first phrasing and it didn't need to be as wordy or precise and preserved WP:LINKCLARITY; and I hope we can stay off "northwestern China" with what I just said.

Secondly, also for you @Peter coxhead, I agree that usually it would not be ideal that something is only put in proper context to readers when they click into another article, but here in this paragraph it is straightforward to infer from the context that Xinjiang is a place in Central Asia and it has hills where the wild apple tree grew/grows. Which is more than sufficient context for this article and that paragraph about the original range of the wild apple tree, is what I was saying. If a reader wants to know more about the Xinjiang they easily follow the wikilink. I am opposed to a pipelink on 'northwestern China' like it is rn, because of WP:LINKCLARITY—I don't see the point in pipelinking when "Xinjiang, China" is concise, precise, unambiguous, and follows link clarity. I am also not in support of either "Xinjiang, northwestern China" or "northwestern China (Xinjiang)" when "Xinjiang, China" is on the table and perfect in my eyes. —I'llbeyourbeach (talk) 15:12, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

I think you missed my point about IFITAINTBROKE -- it's subjective and so is not a good rationale to unilaterally revert an edit that other third parties have already (tacitly) approved of. And speaking of subjectivity, your definition of "northwest" is definitely not something most readers would agree with, as most of the mountains/ranges you refer to are kinda in "northwestern China", but only if you take "China" to refer to China proper as opposed to the modern political entity. Almost all of our readers would consider the places you list to be in north-central or even just central China, and definitely not "central Asia". "Xinjiang", to most of our reader, just sounds like "some place in China", and almost none of them would read "northwest China" as meaning "northwest of the Han Chinese homeland that constitutes the southeastern portion of the modern country called China" (and even those who, like you and me, know about "China proper" should be able to tell from "central Asia" that it is talking about Xinjiang and not, say, Shaanxi).

I'm not sure where you hail from originally, but I can tell you from experience that Japanese tourism companies often like to refer to Kyoto as being in "west Japan" because that's how they talk to other Japanese people, because the Japanese school social studies textbooks (which of course focus on "east-of-the-barrier" and "west-of-the-barrier" rather than using a ruler or compass to establish where the "western half" and "eastern half" of the Japanese archipelago is), and oftentimes it's my job to (try to) tell them that foreign tourists who don't know about Japanese history and culture are more likely to look at a map and consider Kyoto to be in central Japan rather than western Japan. English Misplaced Pages articles are supposed to be written with a "general reader" in mind, and general readers don't know anything more than the tourists in my above analogy. (I have to imagine that no sane tour director in China would use the phrase Northwest China and assume that American and European tourists know what it actually means without an explanation -- our articles on China can use it, but preferably with language like our Shaanxi article that makes it clear that it is talking about an official designation and not objective placement on the map. Our article on apples is not an article on China, and no reader is going to assume we are using GOC-designated region names rather than general-use English. And again, even those who are familiar with the Chinese government's terminology should be able tell from the reference to "central Asia", since no one considers Shaanxi to be in central Asia.)

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 15:54, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

BTW, the above argument for using "Xinjiang" (that "northwestern China" includes other mountains to which the statement doesn't apply) could almost certainly be turned on its head as an argument against using "Xinjiang", since I strongly suspect its not "all mountains in Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region" that are being talked about. (That said, I just checked both sources and couldn't find where the information was taken from.) Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 16:13, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

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Sorry to intrude/a suggestion

Hi, can I suggest you only create new pages or edit those with zero people disagreeing with you. Though basically an intolerable imposition, the Encyclopedia is nearer the start than the end and it still leaves plenty of pages current and future. Clearly you have lots of enemies here and likely others who will try to take you out via noticeboards rather than engage in meaningful discussion. It's basically the course I follow. Much more fun in reality and productive that way, though the temptations are great, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 17:09, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Maculosae tegmine lyncis: I think I know what you're referring to, and it has nothing to do with creating new pages. You might also note that, in the discussion in question, I was quite clear several times that I would be happy to agree to disagree if I wasn't in the clear majority of uninvolved editors. The "fight" wasn't even mine to begin with -- one editor with whom I have a history of agreements reverted another editor with whom I have a history of disagreements, but in this case it was my opinion that the latter editor was clearly in the right. If you disagree, please make a coherent argument to that effect on the article talk page. That being said, per the below I'd like to disengage from the discussion in question anyway.

I see that there's also an ANI notice above this. I guess it was a mistake to edit the article in question in the manner that I did.@Nardog: I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings. This was not my intention, and I am honestly quite surprised that this found its way onto ANI. I had a sincere belief that your edit harmed the article, and the fact that another editor whose edits to that article over the last month I have generally disagreed with seemed to share my belief led me to believe that it was highly likely the majority of Wikipedians would as well. I am on a self-imposed ANI page-ban for the purpose of avoiding drama, so I will not respond to you there or interact with this dispute about the IPA in that particular article's opening sentence again. If you still believe you are in the right and no other editors decided to revert you, you have my blessing in reinserting the disputed content.

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 03:05, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

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Deletion of referenced paragraph at Mottainai

I just saw your edit deleting 1,444b at Mottainai. Was rather shocked to read the edit summary ("Consistent consensus against this over the last three years"), which is disruptive, while interpreting a consensus where there is none in the sense you describe. Hope you're not going to cause trouble (again) at that article, per your unblock conditions ("... don't get in trouble again"). I suggest you revert that deletion, and apologise for its less-than-constructive edit summary. Thanks. --Francis Schonken (talk) 08:31, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

I have self-reverted. The vast majority of the "1,444b" was tag rationales written by me. The content was unsourced, and I only removed it because I thought no one was still arguing about this. I have no idea what your interest in the page is, or why you are here. Please leave me alone. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 08:47, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Harrassment by this Wikipedian

I would just like to leave here for posterity's sake that this wikipedian was harassing me on my own talk page, see here. Please leave me alone. I am allowed to make edits on Misplaced Pages. You do not own the haiku page. static shakedown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ 10:54, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

I apologize if I gave the impression of harassing you. This was not my intention. I went to your talk page because it seemed inappropriate to ask you for clarification of what you meant on the article talk page, which is for discussing improvements to the article, and I was under the impression that the article edit in question was already resolved. After I attempted to discuss it with you on your talk page further, however, you went back to the article and reverted your text back in, without explanation, simply leaving a cryptic message that I can "change that sentence, if want ..."

Anyway, with regard to the response to me that you have now posted on your talk page, while simultaneously banning me from responding to you there for some reason: if you still intend on inserting question material, based on unreliable English poetry sources, into an article that is specifically about Japanese poetry (the Haiku in English article exists for this reason), then I am going to have to ask you to stop. This is not because I feel I "own" the article or that you are not allowed make edits to this article (or any other article on the encyclopedia) -- this is about repeatedly reinserting content that has already been debunked, while refusing to engage in civil discussion over it.

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:07, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

@Staticshakedown: Please refrain from making counterproductive personal remarks in edit summaries, as you did here. Your personal attacks and off-topic accusations against me on my talk page can be removed by anyone at any time, but that edit summary will need an admin to remove it. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:31, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

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I have unwatched Onna-musha having found your response aggressive

I have left the discussion on this topic. I want to let you know that I have felt your tone to be aggressive and it has left me upset and not wanting to take part in this encyclopedia project at all for the time being. Please consider others' mental health and try to be more civil in future rather than lashing out. All my comments were honestly made, despite the fact that I made a comprehension error (and an error on who the original post was made by). please assume good faith more often? Mountaincirque 14:44, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

I am sorry if you felt intimidated, but you quoted my words at me as though I had made the exact opposite point that I had actually made, I asked you not to do so, and then you did the exact same thing again. It is good practice to (i) not do this kind of thing in the first place and (ii) immediately and frankly apologize when it is pointed out. Doubling down and then playing the victim is extremely poor form -- I made numerous attempts to be welcoming to you and to accommodate your apparent interest in creating an article on female martial artists in Japan, and politely explained to you how, for example, LLC books (i.e., Misplaced Pages mirrors) cannot be used as sources, and you have reacted with nothing but passive-aggressive hostility and distortion of the record. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 14:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

I didn't knowingly 'double-down' on anything, I didn't realise you were the original proposer of the move until a few minutes ago. It was a comprehension mistake. I'm sorry you felt my comments were frustrating, I'll aim to be more careful with snipping people's comments in future but I still feel you came back way too hard and assumed I was trying to mislead when in fact I was inviting you to comment as I thought you were a responder to the original move request. I'm bowing out here, let's both agree to be better? Mountaincirque 14:59, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

You responded to my saying that "onna-musha" may not be an ideal title for a hypothetical article that discusses the lives of women of the buke class but that "onna-bugeisha" is substantially worse by quoting the first part and cutting out everything after "but". The fact is that I was clearly never talking about "onna-musha" being an inappropriate title for an article on women warriors like the one we have now; you may not have known this until I explicitly set you straight the first time, but there was no excuse for doubling down after that. Anyway, if you want to bow out, that's fine -- I would prefer if you'd acknowledge that you were wrong (I'm still worried that you will insert LLC citations into other articles...), but as long as you leave me alone, that's fine. Happy editing! Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 15:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Request for review at Yasuke

Hello Hijiri,

I'd like to request your expert eyes on the article Yasuke. There has been a surge of media reporting on the man (particularly with the upcoming Netflix anime about him), and there's some back-and-forth in the article's history with respect to him being a samurai or not. There's the book African Samurai: The True Story of a Legendary Black Warrior in Feudal Japan by Thomas Lockley and Geoffrey Girard about him, if that's any help (Lockley is often interviewed by the media for the aforementioned pieces). I'm only getting bits of the book's info on Google Books, but it says something about him being a hatamoto: "It is not known exactly which rank Yasuke held, but it would probably have been equivalent to hatamoto. The hatamoto saw to the lord’s needs, handling everything from finance to transport, communications to trade. They were also the bodyguards and pages to the warlord, traveling with him and spending their days in his company." This put a red flag for me that some of the nuance is lost in the media, which often uncritically calls him a samurai.

Your insight and knowledge would be much appreciated. — Goszei (talk) 04:28, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

@Goszei: I might take a look, but (i) I'm not that familiar with the Azuchi-Momoyama period to begin with, (ii) Japanese encyclopedias generally don't have standalone entries on him (which both makes it difficult for me to go about preliminary research in the way I normally do and makes me skeptical about the standalone notability of Yasuke as a historical figure, at least as a figure of Japanese history), and (iii) I suspect recent interest in him may be politically motivated: white power-brokers in America and Europe trying to play up the importance of an African man to pre-modern Japanese history to avoid addressing systemic issues in their own countries at the expense of people in "the far off Orient". As a white European in Japan (who by necessity must frequently interact with other white westerners who, despite living in Japan, still get most of their information on the country's history from American popular media) this topic makes me quite uncomfortable in the current climate—and this isn't even getting into the abominable goings on in Atlanta last month and the aftermath thereof. I am inclined to say the best move would be to wait until the hype around the show dies down, then go in and excise any information attributed to popular media sources not backed up by professional scholarship.

As an aside, from everything I've read, even the word "samurai" is problematic: professional Japanologists seem to prefer to talk about "the warrior class", meaning that "samurai" is essentially slang. As for Japanese usage, Kojien gives the primary meaning of "same as saburai, i.e. someone who serves a lord closely" (by which definition it would be a truism, but practically meaningless, to say that Yasuke was a "samurai"), and below that says that in the Japanese middle ages (the period in which Yasuke lived) the word was used to distinguish certain people from common peasants (in that case, it's a truism that Yasuke and other foreigners were neither samurai nor common peasants).

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 05:06, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

BTW, there's also the distinct possibility that a lot of this goes back to the fantasy manga/anime Afro Samurai: the title of the book you refer to is almost certainly deliberately playing on that show's title. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 05:08, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Apologising

I have noted what you said. Just try to see other editors as potential helpers/allies, rather than opponents. Even if you're not in agreement, if you remain calm and even light-hearted you can easily win people over. John Smith's (talk) 08:16, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

I mean... I know that, but I'm not trying to win anyone over. I wanted to fix the "onabu-geisha" hoax, and unless you or some unnamed third party are trying to undo that, I don't see any disagreement, let alone a need to argue or convince anyone. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:42, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

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Edit conflict with speedy close

Retarget Wait, what!? It seems like anyone who knew about the automated retargeting of double-redirects could have anticipated that the bot wouldn't know to fix the said redirects once the vandal edit was reverted, but was this all a long-game plan to TFD the legit redirect 3.11 that I created back in 2013 as part of a mass-TFD of others that another NZ IP (the same person?) had caused to be created in 2019? All of these TFDs were opened today by the same person, and the 2019 vandalism geolocates to the same place. Call me paranoid, but this is super-fishy. I also got a notification that Polyamorph (talk · contribs) "reviewed" the 3.11 page at roughly the same time as the above TFD. Does anyone have any idea what's going on here? Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 16:08, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Assuming you mean RFD rather than TFD, then it doesn't strike me as problematic at all. When someone spots one bad redirect to a page (either stumbling across it or seeing it at RfD) it's not unusual to look and see whether there are any other ones that also need looking at - the connection between "3.11" and the target is not at all obvious to me I've never seen it referred to as such and it doesn't get any prominence at all in my google results. Assuming that someone in Australia/New Zealand is seeing something similar to me in the UK, then sending it to redirects for discussion is perfectly reasonable. As for the vandalism, not everybody thinks (or even knows) to check for any collateral damage when reverting a page move. Thryduulf (talk) 16:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

I reviewed the 3.11 page because it came up on the new pages feed, given that it is at RfD I marked it as reviewed. Polyamorph (talk) 18:26, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

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@Elizium23: I cannot speak to Natemup's behaviour in the area of Roman Catholicism specifically, but when I interacted with him on Talk:Yasuke and Talk:Samurai, I found his sourcing standards to be woefully inadequate (on the former, he insisted on citing popular media sources even when they disagree with sources written by specialists in the relevant field, while on the latter he cited no sources for the better part of a month before eventually citing Misplaced Pages, while repeatedly vandalized the opening sentence of a relatively prominent article to make a WP:POINT). Despite his own edits to these two articles leaving a lot to be desired, he has repeatedly accused me and others of "vandalism" and sockpuppetry (he repeatedly conflated multiple users with accounts with at least two and probably more IP users and implicitly with each other -- I can get the diffs if you need them), and even made what looked like a threat. I am not sure if his involvement in these pages is related to Catholicism: he seems to be subtly pushing the ahistorical idea that the Jesuits in particular and the Catholic Church in general was always opposed to slavery of Africans, and seems to be either ignorant of or willfully pretending to be ignorant of the Catholic Church's blessing being granted to Portuguese and Spanish colonial ambitions in Asia and the Americas, but it's very minor and I might be reading too much in. I am still, frankly, concerned about the possibility of further repercussions for me personally and the articles I have worked on (his behaviour on Samurai implies he has no problem vandalizing even a highly visible Japanese article for no purpose other than "revenge" against Japan-focused editors who undermined him), and I would rather not involve myself any further, but I can be reached by email. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 05:23, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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Between suspicion and aspersion

Hijiri 88, it's perfectly OK to suspect editors or IPs of sockpuppetry. It's also OK to publicly mention this suspicion once or twice, in order to draw the attention of other editors to this possibility. It's not OK to go on publicly speculating about this or representing it as facts. Please take this to WP:SPI and stop posting about it on ANI. Thank you! ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 04:30, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

FWIW, I did only mention it once (if that), and I was only repeating something someone had already said without incident. I then was met with two editors saying, completely out of the blue and without justification "Why are you accusing me of sockpuppetry!?" time after time after time.

Personally, I think it is super-suspicious that, when someone says "The OP logged out to file this report, and hasn't disclosed the name of their account", an accounted editor comes along and assumes, without justification, that the account being referred to is their own, but I didn't even say that I found this suspicious until like the third time it happened in a comment in which I was pinged (and the first time I was pinged wasn't even the first time it had happened within that same thread).

I think I've made it clear that I'd rather remove myself from the discussion, and I would be happy to let Wally have the last word as long as he doesn't ping me to do it. I do think TOA should be blocked for the multiple unprovoked and unapologetic personal attacks against me (Comparing editors to Nazis is actually one of the specific examples listed at WP:WIAPA -- it's actually what got the famous Til Eulenspiegel initially banned from editing English Misplaced Pages), as well as his continued harassment of MPants, and the fact that he is an indeffed vandal who was given WP:ROPE and has been abusing it, but I would prefer to leave that to the community to decide. Hijiri out.

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Natemup, Stormshadows00, and Katemeshi101

@Blue Pumpkin Pie: I decided to remove myself from the toxic atmosphere of the "main" Yasuke article two months ago because of the hell Natemup created. (Email me for the details if you want. I'm not comfortable disclosing them on-wiki.) I am therefore not going to post the following to the talk page itself.

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I wasn't aware of changes made to the historical Yasuke page, but I'm very much aware of a few editors trying to remove any mention of "samurai" (including the removal of "samurai conflict"). The truth of the matter is that majority of samurai were of the noble class, but not all of them. A notable example happens to be the most famous one in Toyotomi Hideyoshi, who was born the son of a farmer and became samurai, general, and daimyo himself. And Hideyoshi's rise in status, same as Yasuke's time, was during Nobunaga's time. So the idea of "Yasuke can't be samurai because he wasn't of noble birth" is 100% flawed when you literally had it happen in Hideyoshi. I've seen people play "what they really mean" and try to discredit sources when it comes to the issue and if sources say that he was a samurai and historians say this as well, then it should be a foregone conclusion to add sources. If you have a good source that says it, by all means add it. Removing "samurai" or wholesale removal of sources to reflect a non-consensus POV or bullying a POV push is not even close to right. As far as this article goes, the source material states that he is samurai, the creator said he is samurai, the sources say that he is samurai, and so on So any removal of that or sources reflecting that is just wrongheaded especially when the sources back up the source material. Stormshadows00 19:11, 29 July 2021 (UTC) editors trying to remove any mention of "samurai" (including the removal of "samurai conflict") Please do not make disruptive, inflammatory remarks like this. I did not remove any classification of the character in this show as a samurai because the show is fiction and the writers of the show can portray their characters however they like. I removed awkward prose because, you know, it's awkward. BTW, reopening this discussion after the OP very nearly got in big trouble for his behaviour on this and related pages and probably doesn't want to come back here... strikes me as a bit inappropriate. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 10:16, 30 July 2021 (UTC) You don't remove sources just because you don't believe they're accurate if they were verified and credible sources. What you can do as an alternative is add more information that counters it in order for it to have due weight.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 21:12, 29 July 2021 (UTC) Stormshadows00 is completely correct here. I read in WG Beasley's "The Meiji Restoration" (page 33) that daimyos could grant samurai status to commoners for a wide variety of reasons. Historian Thomas Lockely has written in his books that Yasuke was almost certainly granted such samurai status. But the idea that samurai status is strictly hereditary is obviously wrong. Constantine Nomikos Vaporis, a very prominent historian, notes in "Samurai : an encyclopedia of Japan's cultured warriors" that there were many parts of Japan where most of samurai were those who recently purchased their rank. In Tosa during the late-Tokugawa period, the large majority of the samurai had purchased the rank within their own lifetimes. Anyway, the reason why every available source describes Yasuke as a samurai is because he obviously was a samurai. Katemeshi101 06:49, 30 July 2021 (UTC) I read in WG Beasley's "The Meiji Restoration" Please refrain from telling lies. You never read that book: you Googled up a source that said what you wanted it to. Historian Thomas Lockely Umm... citation needed? Lockley is an English teacher with a hobbyist's interest in history, but his reason for claiming that Yasuke was, to use your words, almost certainly granted such samurai status is based on a misreading of a passage in a seemingly-late, possibly-derivative variant text of the Shinchōki that refers to Yasuke being granted a dagger with a decorative scabbard, which he presents as a passage in the prototype text of the Shinchōki that refers to Yasuke being granted a sword, "the symbol of the samurai". the idea that samurai status is strictly hereditary is obviously wrong That is irrelevant to the topic at hand, and it's interesting that you chose to make the exact same, irrelevant, argument as another editor did two months ago. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 10:16, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

However, if you would like to continue handling the matter, I can offer you whatever advice/assistance you may want (beyond the above replies that I decided not to post) here on my own talk page.

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 10:16, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

BTW, I'm only talking about "samurai" thing (which shouldn't have been brought to that article to begin with -- it was blatant WP:FORUMSHOPping/WP:CANVASsing). I'm still happy to chime in on the stuff that can still be handled as a good-faith content dispute (even when two or three of the editors are apparently not good-faith actors), and that includes the use of the phrase "Sengoku period of samurai conflict" that makes the Misplaced Pages article look like it was written by James Clavell. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 10:22, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Hijiri88, I have been working on fixing dangling references that have no corresponding sources, and it appears you added a ref to Aisome-gawa (otogi-zōshi) in this edit. Do you know the source? For now, I have hidden the source. Let me know if you need any assistance if you do know the source! - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 04:56, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

@Aussie Article Writer: Thank you for the message! It was likely a copy-paste error: I'm pretty sure I was copying pieces of the formatting from Aisome-gawa (Noh), which I had written two weeks earlier. I just checked, and the Tokue article was the source for this sentence as with the rest of the article. Sorry for the confusion! Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 05:29, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I’ve fixed it now. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 05:36, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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BLUD

@CycoMa and Crossroads: I don't think I was the referent of this edit, but I think it probably applies to me just as well. This was not a conscious or deliberate decision on my part, but rather how things just tend to work out because, per WP:PACT, I have a tendency to assume that whenever someone expresses skepticism about my knowledge of a topic that I definitely know substantially more about than they do (in this case, Japanese pronouns), they are asking a good-faith question and it is my responsibility to explain as thoroughly and carefully so they can gain the same level of understanding and therefore, hopefully, come around to my way of thinking.

My WP:FORUMSHOPping the Utada discussion to WP:LGBT was actually a complete accident -- the initial post was really just a general question that, if I had got a straight answer up front, would have made it easier to argue coherently. Being a straight cisgender male who has lived in Japan since around the time Twitter was invented, most of what I know about "preferred pronouns" comes from randomly consumed pop culture rather than any academic study or the lived experience of myself or anyone I know personally. It's therefore difficult for me to understand the way of thinking of someone who is not an Utada fan but came to that article because of an interest in LGBTQ+ topics. And for the sake of full disclosure, under the influence of some friends who are much bigger J-Pop fans than me, I bought a few of Utada's CDs from Book Off back in the early 2010s and enjoyed them, and given Utada's status as a household name in Japan I would have been familiar with her/their work regardless, but I wouldn't consider myself a "fan".

Anyway, upon noticing the above comment by CycoMa, I decided that it might be a bad idea to post this:

Possible accidental bludgeoning. Clarification of (non-)use of atashi by (cisgender?) men, and elaboration on why it's not that important.

That would be the column "gender" for "atashi" where it says females, rarely males. Newimpartial (talk) 06:14, 19 August 2021 (UTC) (Sorry, didn't notice the duplicate. My response above was not as visible as it probably would have been here, so duplicating.) I'll have to get back to you. An initial Googling brought up this and this as sources indicating that atashi is mainly used by women and "doesn't seem to be used by men". In ten years living in Japan, I don't think I've ever heard a man use atashi to describe themselves (unless one takes the transphobic view that transsexual women using feminine language to emphasize their gender are men in drag and "faking it"). Our article doesn't cite a source, anyway, and I think you're kinda turning WP:BURDEN on its head by demanding that I prove a negative ("no men ever use atashi"): it is very female-coded, and is strong evidence that our subject either (a) doesn't care about pronouns one way or the other or (b) would prefer if Misplaced Pages and other media continue to use female pronouns. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:54, 19 August 2021 (UTC) Sorry! It's not obvious from my edit summary, but in the interim I asked a friend of mine (an actor) and heard that it is sometimes used by male characters in jidaigeki as well as in rakugo; Japanese Misplaced Pages says the same thing (and presumably if it were wrong someone in Japan would have thought to change it), and now so does English Misplaced Pages. Needless to say, all of this is sub-optimal from a sourcing standpoint, but among Japanese-speakers it is WP:BLUE that atashi is feminine (see also User:EvergreenFir's comment below), and the positive claim that it is sometimes used by men is what would need a reliable source under normal circumstances. These are not normal circumstances, mind you: I am not trying to add to or take away from an article's content, but rather gathering evidence of various kinds in support of restoring the female pronouns/determiners in the article. This evidence includes not only (i) Utada's continued use of feminine language (I focused on atashi because "pronouns" is what pop culture calls the words that were recently changed, most of which are what I would call determiners, although I definitely learned in JCE French that they were "adjectives") but also things like (ii) a Tweet in which Utada explicitly called language from (i) "women's language", (iii) her/their official English website continuing to use female pronouns/determiners in multiple places, and (iv) her/their referring to herself/themselves as a "woman" on at least one occasion since coming out as non-binary ("at least" because if one considers the original Instagram post about Mrs./Miss/Ms. to constitute "coming out", the same post referred to being female as "my sex"). Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:20, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Your thoughts?

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I won't go into details, but I'd like to thank the editors (they know who they are) who have helped me through this relatively very difficult time. :-) Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 05:36, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

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Your <small> tags on your comment here appear to be breaking the rest of the page - at least for me. Could you fix them. Thanks.Nigel Ish (talk) 09:21, 18 November 2021 (UTC)_tags_on_ANI"> _tags_on_ANI">

Someones fixed it now.Nigel Ish (talk) 09:25, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

There is a discussion at WP:ANI that involves you

As a courtesy see here. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:45, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

FTR I have no idea who Cavalryman is. I guess it refers to either Reyk or Piotrus. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:46, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

No, there is an actual user named Cavalryman and he's not the same person as me or Piotrus. Reyk _YO! 17:05, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

@Reyk: Sorry, I had hoped it would be clear that I was joking about the absurdity of Cavalryman having "invited" me to participate at ANI when I had known about the ANI thread(s) almost a month ago, mentioned it on the talk pages of both you and Piotrus (who was the first one to notify me), expressed my simultaneous feeling of responsibility and reluctance to comment multiple times, and actually commented before any interaction with Cavalryman (who I only responded to in a capacity that I felt was so peripheral to the discussion that I made my text small). Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 05:19, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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I'm pretty sure that the wording of my questions to the various ArbCom candidates just now would have been permissible even if BANEX did not cover questions to potential Arbitrators who may be assessing an appeal of a ban to which my question applies in the future. However, I feel fairly confident that it does apply, at least as much as my question on Beeblebrox's talk page here (which, unlike my question to the ArbCom candidates, actually mentioned the other IBAN party by name six times). And yeah, sorry about not getting around to posting that appeal yet. It was always a pretty low priority, and I haven't even been able to write any WAM articles this year, so it looks like it'll be another while. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:05, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

I couldn't find a way to properly phrase this as a question without simply saying "Would you support my appeal if I made it again at some point next year?", which doesn't feel appropriate. Opabinia regalis's answer (courtesy ping) was excellent, but I'm kinda regretting not going further in on the specific details in my initial question (which, needless to say, was worded with deliberate vagueness). Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 08:29, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

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You wanna take this?

@Crossroads: For reasons that should be obvious, I decided not to post the following. I was initially going to shorten it by deleting everything after ...cares enough to pay for that., but figured it'd be better to just share the whole thing and allow you to do with it as you will. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 03:32, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

See my stricken comment: it's not "publicists" but almost certainly a freelance translation agency, and nothing was "changed" but rather a few new articles were added with they. The main profile page and all news articles prior to this week (assuming this was a "batch" translation), including those since last June, continue to use she. It's likely that the only reason for the inconsistency one way or the other is that it would cost extra to pay a professional copyeditor to change one or the other and neither Utada nor anyone involved in the maintenance of the website cares enough to pay for that. If it were me doing the translation (and it wasn't) it would be unthinkable to change the pronouns without also directly notifying the (non-English-speaking) client that I had done so and recommending that they change the older pages for consistency, so it is important to note that no such change has thus far been made. This may come as a shock to people who live in America or Europe and have never spent time in Japan or dwelt on the websites of Japanese companies, celebrities, etc., but people really care that little about the quality of the "official English versions" of their websites: even the great Mitsubishi's official global site has a history section whose front page that reads Presented here is Mitsubishi's journey in the automobile industry since the its establishment., says "News Release" where it should say "News Releases" or just "News" (it's not a list of press releases but simply news updates), their Corporate Profile page uses full-width commas instead of commas followed by spaces in their address, and what should be Number of Board Members is Member of the Board and what should be something like CEO and Representative Director is instead the utterly bizarre Member of the Board Representative Executive Officer,�President & CEO; if a multinational corporation with overseas investors and a massive overseas market has a website that looks like this (definitely the result of being farmed out to a general translation service and then "proof-read" in-house by people with minimal English proficiency), then why would we assume the website of a popstar who is almost unheard of outside of Japanese-speaking communities is better when all evidence supports the opposite assertion? Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 03:32, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

• Probably should also ping User:Tamzin and get her take on the matter. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 03:35, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

To be totally clear, are you okay with me posting it there as a quote from you? I think these are good points. Crossroads 05:29, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that's totally fine! Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 05:59, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Crossroads 06:42, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

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Yamato kotoba

Hi. Your moving description says ""Yamato-kotoba" has technical uses that differ from "wago"'s; both are encyclopedic and merit articles, but they should be separate articles, and this article appears always to have been primarily about wago, NOT yamato-kotoba, so moving page". Can you explain this further? I have been reading linguistic sources about wago/yamato kotoba and every one of them uses the term interchangably, with wago merely being the more wide-spread term, of Chinese origin. Can you show sources that separate them and show how they "differ"? Xia 08:00, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Are you sure? Most linguistics sources I have read uniformly use "wago" (perhaps because it definitely makes more sense as a pair with "kango"?), while I've mostly seen "yamato-kotoba" used in works of literary history to refer to the poetic lexicon of post-Kokinshū waka and/or non wakankonkō prose. I may have been wrong in my statement four years ago that the latter should have it's own article: if you disagree with said statement, feel free to follow my lead and continue to not create such an article. I fail to see how expecting de facto semi-retired editors like me to formally renounce all statements from years earlier that we may no longer agree with does the project any good. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:38, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

I merely came across this as I'm writing the hu:Vago article on huwiki. No need to bite my head off for asking. Your statement startled me, because it goes against of what I personallyread in sources. So wanted to know where you have read that. All of those sources on the bottom of my huwiki article merely say yamato kotoba is just another name for wago.

"Investigations of each aspect of these and other properties have elucidated the degree of productivity and of creativity of mimetics in comparison with words in the other strata such as Yamato kotoba or wago (native Japanese words)" -- Taro Kageyama, Hideki Kishimoto: Handbook of Japanese Lexicon and Word Formation. Page 135.

"Words in the native stratum, also called wago, are words peculiar to Japanese and form the core of the Japanese lexicon. The wa of wago originates from ancient Chinese 倭(wǒ; ancient Chinese name for Japan) and the go 語(‘word’) also comes from Chinese, so the term wago itself is from Chinese. The term Yamato kotoba ‘Yamato language’ (Yamato being an old name for Japan) is also used to refer to words that are originally Japanese." -- page 16-17.

"Traditionally, the Japanese lexicon is characterized in terms of three strata. The terms wago 'Japanese words' or Yamato-kotoba 'Yamato words' refer to the stratum of the native vocabulary, and kango 'Chinese words' refers to loan words of Chinese origin" -- Masayoshi Shibatani. The Languages of Japan. Page. 142.

So I would be interested to see those sources that separate the two. Simply because of encyclopedic reasons of showing a topic from several aspects. if there IS serious research about them being different, it should be discussed in the article. I just own a bunch of Japanese language books and none of them do. Cheers. Xia 10:27, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Forgive me if I'm misremembering, but did I ever claim I had a source that explicitly stated the distinction? My above reply to you certainly did not make this claim, nor did my edit summary from 2018. In any case, if I recall correctly, this is the linguistic work in which I first learned about wago and kango (and gairaigo). Yamatokotoba, meanwhile, was a word I heard in casual conversation numerous times for at least two or three years before that; when penning my reply to you above, I scanned this book, which (I think?) doesn't mention "wago" but uses "yamato kotoba" in the context of wakan-konkōbun as addressed by Meiji-era literary historians. I hope this has been of some use. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:41, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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I came across an SPI case you filed and realized it had been a long, long time since I ran into you on the project. I hope you are well and just busy with off-line life. A lot of the ANI crowd from 5 or 7 years ago has either left the project and retired or are not hanging out by noticeboards any longer so things seem much more quiet lately (although I don't frequent noticeboards like I did as a new editor so my judgment might be off).

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@Liz: I've been well. I'm not really fully "back" at the moment, but I do appreciate your message. The reason I largely stopped editing Misplaced Pages a few years back was partly because of the drahma, but primarily because of a number of systemic issues not (directly) related to ANI, so I'm still not sure if I'm ready to fully return. (Also, shortly before I was eligible for permanent residency I had to switch employers because of pandemic-related issues, which was pretty hectic, and I still don't have the kind of free time I had during most of my more active periods.) I do still want to finish (or continue) a number of the projects I started back in 2015, 2017, and 2018, and I will probably continue on-and-off editing for the time being. But thank you for your gracious message -- I do very much appreciate it! Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:20, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

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Please, can you help me with these translations from Japanese to English: Kotanbetsu (ja:古丹別駅), Onishika (ja:鬼鹿村), Brown Bear Storm (ja:羆嵐), Japan Hunting Friends Association (ja:大日本猟友会), Hokkaido Government Police Department (ja:北海道庁警察部), Haboro Police Station (ja:羽幌警察署), 28th Infantry Regiment (Japan) (ja:歩兵第28連隊), Japan Action Enterprise (ja:ジャパンアクションエンタープライズ), Kaoru Takagi (ja:高木薫), Hokkaido Wine (ja:北海道ワイン). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.21.33.91 (talk) 10:47, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Can you do it? 79.16.244.59 (talk) 10:48, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hijiri hasn't edited since November 26....be patient. Lectonar (talk) 11:09, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@79.16.244.59: Sorry, but I'm somewhat busy IRL at the moment. If you could clarify what kind of "help" you want, I might be able to help in my own time; are you planning on posting machine-translations from Japanese Misplaced Pages to the draft space or something?

@Lectonar: Thanks for the assist!

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• You seem to confuse goals and means. The goal is to have more articles on Misplaced Pages with relevant content. So if you can create more articles, please start with that first, regardless of in whuch categories the articles will end up. Categories are a means to navigate between related articles easily, they are not a goal in itself and there is no hurry in creating new categories at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:25, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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Hello, pardon before. But if you dont mind, may i ask if this source is credible for wikipedia?

https://kokusho.nijl.ac.jp/biblio/100164361/48?ln=ja

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would it be possible to have your support on the Yasuke-article? i saw in the archives your name and i think, that your knowlege about Yasuke could benefit the article and the sources about paper in Japan about this figure. I am personally mainly interested about the Japanese academic view about his slavery background. --ErikWar19 (talk) 02:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, no. I don't care about Ubisoft videogames and I am frankly disgusted having expressed an interest in Japanese history on this site and elsewhere has now caused people who clearly have no knowledge of or interest in Japan to see me as a "brother in arms". I don't know why someone whose account is two months old would be reaching out to mostly retired editors about articles they worked on three years ago, but this is super suspicious. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 02:16, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

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Hello Hijiri88, Apologies for the interruption. I have sent you an email regarding your comment at RSN. Rotary Engine 03:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

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I know you haven't been on here for a while, but when you return, here's to something like three years of absolutely no feuding between us. I feel like we have finally put our differences behind us and I wanted to recognize our mutual accomplishments of maintaining civility by memorializing it on your talk page. The hard earned honor and respect for our civility is worth celebrating. Congrats to us! Huggums 03:57, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

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