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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | To Mairon, Lieutenant of Melkor--
I don't know exactly how or why under the sky you were banned and I frankly don't care. The administrators in their halls of stone can sometimes be pretty narrow-minded. The work you did on Chinese geography topics was very important and I hope you or people like you will come back, otherwise Misplaced Pages is doomed to die. If you have the time, please apply to be unblocked and help us uncover the places where the Shadows lie. There are a lot of good sources out there, and we need you to find them and bring them all and on Misplaced Pages link them. ] (]) 14:42, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
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:Well, you should care. He was banned for being an un-constructive jackass. Wiki doesn't tolerate that sort of behavior. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:15, 1 March 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Regardless, there was a lot of good work that was done by this user. It's been four years. I have started a discussion on unblocking this user so they can get back to work on Chinese geography. Started a topic on unblocking this user here: ] (]) 06:44, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


== Unblocking Request Attempt ==
Thanks a lot for creating useful pages such as this: ]! However, I wonder why this and other similar pages do not have the county and district names (], ], ] .... ] 等等) wikified? -- ] (]) 00:09, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
:I kept the links in the headers while the lists were under construction, mainly for my benefit so I know which county and county-level city names are unique, but delinked the headers after completion due to MOS. I suggest adding, say <nowiki>{{Jiangsu}}</nowiki> to the list for Jiangsu, just below the TWP-LV division "sidebar". ''GotR'' <sup>]</sup> 01:01, 30 January 2013 (UTC)


For the convenience of the user, I am adding my attempt to unblock the user to this page. I hope you will see this someday and try to unblock yourself. Looking forward to the Return of the Lieutenant! My master bids thee welcome!
:::I guess that would do. But from my point of view, making each second-level header into a wikilink (i.e. <nowiki>===]===</nowiki> etc) would be highly convenient for navigation. Suppose a casual user was searching for "XXX township"; he found the appropriate "List of township-level divisions of YYY" page, then he found the "XXX" line in this page - but all he sees (as it is often the case) - is a see of red links. In some cases (so far) not a single blue link in sight! Even if all the county links are hidden in a <nowiki>{{Jiangsu}}</nowiki> template at the bottom of the (rather large!) page, the user probably won't know about it. This is why I think that making the county name into a (blue!) link would be helpful.


=== User:Lieutenant of Melkor ===
:::Anyway, you've designed these pages (and it's great that you've done it!), so I won't make haphazard changes myself, but rather would defer to your opinion. -- ] (]) 04:41, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
{{archive top|Sorry, Geographyinitiative, but this isn't gonna happen without hearing from Sauron themself. ]&nbsp;]] 13:40, 11 April 2018 (UTC)}}
::::I suppose that those divisions with less than perhaps 75% of the links being blue can have their headers linked, but for places like Shijiazhuang, Hebei and Dongguan, Guangdong the added benefit is reduced and not worth coming to odds with MOS. ''GotR'' <sup>]</sup> 19:10, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
In 2018, we are supposed to focus on the under-covered subjects on Misplaced Pages. Since Asian Month Nov 2017, I've been working on Chinese geography stubs, and I've noticed a name in like all of the page histories for minor Chinese geography: ]. If you really want to cover the under-covered topics, then I suggest undoing the block on this user. Whatever the polemical statements the user made were, the user did constructive work on Chinese geography, which is '''still''' badly needed. I request that you give the user another chance.


Back in June 2014, this user was blocked from Misplaced Pages for polemical statements or behavior of some sort which I have not yet personally reviewed. Further, the user seems to have been blocked more than once. It's easy to see that this user probably has an eccentric personality, but in the end, who doesn't?
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It's been almost four years now: the world has changed; Misplaced Pages has changed. Why not unblock this user? I hope to collaborate with the user to continue the work on Chinese geography pages. Even if you unblock the user today, the user may not even realize that the unblock you do has occurred for several years time. Once the user comes back (if ever), then if the user violates policy again, you can just block the user again, no problem. BUT if the user comes back and sees the unblock, then there's a chance, however small, that the Chinese geography stubs will be greatly improved by this user. Hope this makes sense to you all. '''I earnestly implore you to encourage this user to come back and continue the constructive work the user was doing.''' ] (]) 07:54, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
. There is nothing "ungrammatical" other than the missing word "located" but its omission did not require you to go back to a version of the page you like better than the one the rest of us have been working on.—] (]) 18:28, 4 February 2013 (UTC)


*'''Oppose''' - While I believe this to be a good-faith request, I feel an unrequested unblock sets a precedent here, one I find troubling. To be brief, I suggest this idea should be rejected as opening the door to similar requests, which would undo the hard work it has taken to block a number of various types of tendentious editors who, although arguably good content providers in some areas, have repeatedly proven themselves a net negative for Misplaced Pages in terms of overall editor retention and wasted editor and administrator time. ] (]) 08:15, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
== AN/I ==
:: My thoughts: there are some pages only the tendentious would ever edit; don't ban personality types. ] (]) 08:20, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
:::I just refreshed my memory with this reading from AN/I that outlines the highly ban-worthy behavior which (AN/I archive 844, section 25.) This is my definition of a bad-faith editor: this highly problematic editor pulled every trick in the book. ] (]) 08:30, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


::::I glanced at the behaviour. I'm not saying it's not bad. I see trolling, bullying, insulting, and edit warring. But I'm saying people can change: 3 or 4 years later, maybe this person is ready to come back. If the user does something ban worthy again, then you just ban the user- simple! For every one of these examples, I can give you fifty or a hundred good edits this user made. Give peace another chance. "all kinds of trouble come to an end, when a man tells another man, "Be my friend."" ] (]) 09:55, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello. There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you. ] (]) 03:39, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
:::::At least we agree on the extremely uncollegial and unethical behavior that got this editor effectively banned. But you fail to address my other major point, one of great importance in my view: the precedent that is set here. I am unaware of any previous unrequested unblocks being granted. Effectively, to begin this now means we potentially start hashing over every blocked or banned editor’s case even if they are not asking for their editing privileges back, a daunting prospect that could eat a big chunk of editor time. No thanks. Your kindly intent and desire to see Chinese coverage grow is noted, but the price is too steep. Way, way too steep. This is simply a terrible idea. ] (]) 10:23, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


* '''Oppose''' "behavior of some sort which I have not yet personally reviewed." You're asking for someone to be unblocked, and you haven't even looked at why they were blocked? ] (]) 10:11, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
== Senkaku Islands ==
::I know it seems crazy, but when I look at that block log, all I see is a relatively thorny person who even his greatest detractors admitted had "Clearly... benefited Misplaced Pages in one or two significant areas: Climate, China, and Taiwan." The events of 4 years ago are long gone. If the user does something heinous after being unblocked, just block the user again. The user may never even realize the unblocking. But I hope the user will be unblocked, figure it out one day, read these comments and continue the constructive work the user was doing. ] (]) 10:57, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


I know you have an issue on the terms "China" and "Taiwan" personally. I would point out I used China/Taiwan only as common names which bear no political implication; i.e., it does not mean I'm saying Taiwan is not part of China, etc. ] (]) 04:33, 8 February 2013 (UTC) * '''Oppose current request'''. As an absolute minimum we'll need an unblock request from the user himself, convincing enough for us to believe that the kind of behavior that led to the block will not reoccur. ] (]) 11:03, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
::Ah, that’s of course a slam dunk point, and why I couldn’t recall an unrequested unblock. Suggest a speedy close. ] (]) 11:13, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
:Since you are courteous in addressing me on a long-belaboured issue, I take your word as it is. However, <u>as far as I recall</u>, even before I started caring as much as I do now about naming, this page, as far as I recall, used the full names, which I alluded to in my revert edit summary. ''GotR'' <sup>]</sup> 05:49, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
::By all means put back the "People's Republic of China" and "Republic of China" into the sentence but please keep the other neutral wording in my edit. ] (]) 05:22, 9 February 2013 (UTC) :::I'm saying three-four years is long enough. Why would the user even want to come back at this point? For the sake of wikipedia, try to show mercy. ] (]) 11:16, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


* '''Support''' (since I'm the OP): An half-baked analogy for you all to ponder: 4 Teacher (You)," they said to Him (you), "this woman (user) was caught in the act of committing adultery. (breaking wikipedia policy) 5 In the law Moses (Misplaced Pages policy) commanded us to stone (ban) such women (user). So what do You say?" 6 They asked this to trap Him, in order that they might have evidence to accuse Him. Jesus stooped down and started writing on the ground with His finger. 7 When they persisted in questioning Him, He stood up and said to them, "The one without sin (breaking policy) among you should be the first to throw a stone (ban) at her. (the user)" 8 Then He stooped down again and continued writing on the ground. 9 When they heard this, they left one by one, starting with the older men (admins). Only He was left, with the woman in the center.
== Overlinking to China ==
*'''Oppose''' - The whole point of the ] is that the blocked editor is supposed to demonstrate that they have understanding of the reason why they were blocked, and that they will not repeat this. Handing out unblocks is a bad precedence to set. Also, we can do without the condescending sermons.--] (]) 13:17, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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Why have you removed loads of links to China? Seems like POV-pushing to me. ] is not a valid reason for these deletions. ] (]) 19:28, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
:I have taken care to avoid doing so in Economy of Foo, Foreign relations of Foo, and Military of Foo articles. Otherwise, the links are indisputably common terms, and more often than not have zero relevance to their parent articles other than being mentioned. As a side, if I were truly intent on POV-pushing, I would have performed this in Sept/Oct 2011 or Mar 2012 soon after the moves of the PRC and ROC state articles, but that isn't the case. <br>
:And I ask you stop blanket-reverting at once, and go on a case-by-case basis; you are merely wasting your own time otherwise. ''GotR'' <sup>]</sup> 19:39, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


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:I also had the same feeling. Especially since they were removing out those links in the middle of sentences and none of the other countries in the same sentences. Country links are often very relevant in many types of articles and are not really the same thing as a common term. Especially in an article like ] were people are highly likely to want to go to links of those countries to see more info on them in relevance to the parent article. -] (]) 19:41, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


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::{{editconflict}} That's not how linking works. If you continue to remove these links, then you will be reported to admins, and it may end in you being blocked. ] (]) 19:43, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
::That the links are removed in the middle of sentences is a problem of Twinkle and nothing else. And the burden of proof is on you&mdash;you need to provide evidence (in the form of traffic) on what other people are likely to do (you are not and have no right to speak for them). As it stands now, both of you have presented nothing but WP:IDESPISETHATBULLSHIT, and WP:OVERLINK criteria are all met. Besides, if people wish to read a state article, they can simply type it in the Search bar; their laziness is no excuse for us to make messes of articles. ''GotR'' <sup>]</sup> 19:49, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
:::A problem of Twinkle??? You're the one removing the links! Twinkle doesn't do it magically by itself. Please read ]. I'm going to report you now. ] (]) 19:53, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
::::I haven't done anything with Twinkle in these intervening minutes, so reporting me will do you no good. Take this to the Village Pump for a wider discussion on the seriously overlinked state of many articles, but do not continue to barrage me, or behave foolishly, here on my talk.<br>
::::You have not demonstrated: 1) {{xt|Relevant connections to the subject of another article that will help readers understand the article more fully}}. 2) {{xt|Articles with relevant information}}. 3) {{xt|Articles explaining technical terms, jargon, or slang expressions}}. 4) {{xt|Proper names that are '''likely''' to be unfamiliar to readers}}. In case 4, with the possible exception of Caribbean/Pacific island nations/territories, any country/state name is familiar with readers. ''GotR'' <sup>]</sup> 20:00, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for your submission to Misplaced Pages, and happy editing. <!-- Template:Db-draft-notice --><!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> <span style="font-family:Century Gothic">] ]</span> 02:12, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
:::Actually burden is on the person making the change, which would be you. -] (]) 20:03, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
::::Criterion 1 has not been met. Criterion 2 rarely, if ever, holds. Criterion 3: A country/state name is decisively not a jargon term. Criterion 4, see my response to Bazonka. ''GotR'' <sup>]</sup> 20:06, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


== Continued Respect ==
== Your ANI removal of a topic ==


I am still looking forward to the Return of the Lieutenant! I have never seen any of the stuff they blocked you for, but I see your work everywhere I go in Misplaced Pages. You were a great editor. ] (]) 12:21, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
I am deeply concerned that you not only removed a thread on ANI, you removed a thread ''about your actions''. I have requested on that (restored) thread that you respond to that concern. ]] 20:19, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
==Your draft article, ]==
:The reason I why removed it at first was because both Djsasso and I believe Bazonka's escalation to AN/I is hot-headed. Since Bazonka and you, most especially you, have objected, then I can only let the discussion run. ''GotR'' <sup>]</sup> 20:27, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
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== Edits ==

Lieutenant of Melkor- I have recently surpassed your edit total of 20,031. Without the pioneering foundation you laid and the example you provided (including mistakes!), I would never made it here. When I have been blocked or in danger of being blocked, I tried to remember your experience and how much Misplaced Pages lost when you were blocked. Thanks for your contributions. ] (]) 04:22, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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To Mairon, Lieutenant of Melkor--
      I don't know exactly how or why under the sky you were banned and I frankly don't care. The administrators in their halls of stone can sometimes be pretty narrow-minded. The work you did on Chinese geography topics was very important and I hope you or people like you will come back, otherwise Misplaced Pages is doomed to die. If you have the time, please apply to be unblocked and help us uncover the places where the Shadows lie. There are a lot of good sources out there, and we need you to find them and bring them all and on Misplaced Pages link them. Geographyinitiative (talk) 14:42, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Well, you should care. He was banned for being an un-constructive jackass. Wiki doesn't tolerate that sort of behavior. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.169.18.4 (talk) 23:15, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Regardless, there was a lot of good work that was done by this user. It's been four years. I have started a discussion on unblocking this user so they can get back to work on Chinese geography. Started a topic on unblocking this user here: Geographyinitiative (talk) 06:44, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Unblocking Request Attempt

For the convenience of the user, I am adding my attempt to unblock the user to this page. I hope you will see this someday and try to unblock yourself. Looking forward to the Return of the Lieutenant! My master bids thee welcome!

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Sorry, Geographyinitiative, but this isn't gonna happen without hearing from Sauron themself. Writ Keeper  13:40, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

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In 2018, we are supposed to focus on the under-covered subjects on Misplaced Pages. Since Asian Month Nov 2017, I've been working on Chinese geography stubs, and I've noticed a name in like all of the page histories for minor Chinese geography: User:Lieutenant of Melkor. If you really want to cover the under-covered topics, then I suggest undoing the block on this user. Whatever the polemical statements the user made were, the user did constructive work on Chinese geography, which is still badly needed. I request that you give the user another chance.

Back in June 2014, this user was blocked from Misplaced Pages for polemical statements or behavior of some sort which I have not yet personally reviewed. Further, the user seems to have been blocked more than once. It's easy to see that this user probably has an eccentric personality, but in the end, who doesn't?

It's been almost four years now: the world has changed; Misplaced Pages has changed. Why not unblock this user? I hope to collaborate with the user to continue the work on Chinese geography pages. Even if you unblock the user today, the user may not even realize that the unblock you do has occurred for several years time. Once the user comes back (if ever), then if the user violates policy again, you can just block the user again, no problem. BUT if the user comes back and sees the unblock, then there's a chance, however small, that the Chinese geography stubs will be greatly improved by this user. Hope this makes sense to you all. I earnestly implore you to encourage this user to come back and continue the constructive work the user was doing. Geographyinitiative (talk) 07:54, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Oppose - While I believe this to be a good-faith request, I feel an unrequested unblock sets a precedent here, one I find troubling. To be brief, I suggest this idea should be rejected as opening the door to similar requests, which would undo the hard work it has taken to block a number of various types of tendentious editors who, although arguably good content providers in some areas, have repeatedly proven themselves a net negative for Misplaced Pages in terms of overall editor retention and wasted editor and administrator time. Jusdafax (talk) 08:15, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
My thoughts: there are some pages only the tendentious would ever edit; don't ban personality types. Geographyinitiative (talk) 08:20, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
I just refreshed my memory with this reading from AN/I that outlines the highly ban-worthy behavior which has me wincing. (AN/I archive 844, section 25.) This is my definition of a bad-faith editor: this highly problematic editor pulled every trick in the book. Jusdafax (talk) 08:30, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
I glanced at the behaviour. I'm not saying it's not bad. I see trolling, bullying, insulting, and edit warring. But I'm saying people can change: 3 or 4 years later, maybe this person is ready to come back. If the user does something ban worthy again, then you just ban the user- simple! For every one of these examples, I can give you fifty or a hundred good edits this user made. Give peace another chance. "all kinds of trouble come to an end, when a man tells another man, "Be my friend."" Geographyinitiative (talk) 09:55, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
At least we agree on the extremely uncollegial and unethical behavior that got this editor effectively banned. But you fail to address my other major point, one of great importance in my view: the precedent that is set here. I am unaware of any previous unrequested unblocks being granted. Effectively, to begin this now means we potentially start hashing over every blocked or banned editor’s case even if they are not asking for their editing privileges back, a daunting prospect that could eat a big chunk of editor time. No thanks. Your kindly intent and desire to see Chinese coverage grow is noted, but the price is too steep. Way, way too steep. This is simply a terrible idea. Jusdafax (talk) 10:23, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose "behavior of some sort which I have not yet personally reviewed." You're asking for someone to be unblocked, and you haven't even looked at why they were blocked? Andy Dingley (talk) 10:11, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
I know it seems crazy, but when I look at that block log, all I see is a relatively thorny person who even his greatest detractors admitted had "Clearly... benefited Misplaced Pages in one or two significant areas: Climate, China, and Taiwan." The events of 4 years ago are long gone. If the user does something heinous after being unblocked, just block the user again. The user may never even realize the unblocking. But I hope the user will be unblocked, figure it out one day, read these comments and continue the constructive work the user was doing. Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:57, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose current request. As an absolute minimum we'll need an unblock request from the user himself, convincing enough for us to believe that the kind of behavior that led to the block will not reoccur. Favonian (talk) 11:03, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Ah, that’s of course a slam dunk point, and why I couldn’t recall an unrequested unblock. Suggest a speedy close. Jusdafax (talk) 11:13, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
I'm saying three-four years is long enough. Why would the user even want to come back at this point? For the sake of wikipedia, try to show mercy. Geographyinitiative (talk) 11:16, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Support (since I'm the OP): An half-baked analogy for you all to ponder: 4 Teacher (You)," they said to Him (you), "this woman (user) was caught in the act of committing adultery. (breaking wikipedia policy) 5 In the law Moses (Misplaced Pages policy) commanded us to stone (ban) such women (user). So what do You say?" 6 They asked this to trap Him, in order that they might have evidence to accuse Him. Jesus stooped down and started writing on the ground with His finger. 7 When they persisted in questioning Him, He stood up and said to them, "The one without sin (breaking policy) among you should be the first to throw a stone (ban) at her. (the user)" 8 Then He stooped down again and continued writing on the ground. 9 When they heard this, they left one by one, starting with the older men (admins). Only He was left, with the woman in the center.
  • Oppose - The whole point of the standard offer is that the blocked editor is supposed to demonstrate that they have understanding of the reason why they were blocked, and that they will not repeat this. Handing out unblocks is a bad precedence to set. Also, we can do without the condescending sermons.--WaltCip (talk) 13:17, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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