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| BEN HEINE SPEAKING: | |||
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| MAY I ASK WHY YOU DELETED MY WIKIPEDIA ENTRY? | |||
| THIS IS NOT FAIR! | |||
| THE ENTRY HAD BEEN WRITTEN AGAIN AND RE DOWNLOADED BY OTHER PEOPLE AND YOU STILL KEEP DELETING IT. | |||
| WHO ARE YOU? | |||
| CONTACT ME HERE : heinebenjamin@hotmail.com | |||
| Ben Heine <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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| Thank you. ] 18:48, 10 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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== Qur'anic quote == | ||
| BrandonYusufToropov, Karl Meier has removed material from your user page which some editors will surely find offensive. | |||
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| It is (at least) ] to threaten other editors with eternal torment in ]. This is being discussed on ] if you are interested in chiming in. | |||
| Please do not restore this material; it violates ] and leads to hard feelings without improving the encyclopedia.<br> | |||
| More generally, refraining from partisan pronouncements will spare you pointless controversy, help ensure that your contributions are judged according to their merit, and help us all get along.] 07:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I've asked repeatedly whether it might not have been better simply to have left a civility-affirming ''request'' that I remove this quote, and I have gotten either silence or doubletalk in response. I would have been glad to do take it off if someone had taken the trouble to discuss the matter with me. Perhaps Karl Meier, or yourself, or whoever started this little P.C. undertaking could see fit to offer an apology for peremptorily messing with my userpage. | |||
| ==]== | |||
| Thanks Karl. ] 11:25, 17 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Welp, looks like another that needs reverting. :-) ] 11:57, 17 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Seeing as your commented out part of the "Freedom of speech" section was reverted, you might want to use ] <nowiki>{{or}}</nowiki> on for now. Be sure that you add to the article's talk page if you do use it though. ] 14:27, 17 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :There was a reasoning for it not being a redirect... review the history of ] and you'll probably understand. ] 08:17, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::You're probably right although editors should never have to rely upon the violations of others to ensure their edits... it seems that he (she) has subsided such activity.... so the whole issue may be based upon a moot point now. ] 08:29, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :This was the ''first'' complaint I ever received about the passage. Is there any other text on my userpage I should expect the Powers That Be to edit for me? ] 13:12, 24 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==]== | |||
| Greetings Karl Meier, I was wondering if you might express your editorial view on ] of talk on this article? Thanks. ] 14:00, 17 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Greetings again Karl, I understand why you want to add ''alleged'' to the section title and article wording but such wording is not logical. I'm guessing that you have a ''feeling'' that as Irishpunktom's version of the article stood it did not conform to NPOV. It is for this very reason that I made the changes that arrived at of the article section titles. I would recommend that you in fact edit in that direction to correspond to that logic. Thanks. ] 21:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::It isn't logical because the individuals aren't alleging but in fact are using the term in their discourses. The word ''allege'' tends to be appropriate however in the ''references in connection to Islamophobia'' section. ] 21:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *Karl, thanks for writing me about your concerns for the intro of this article. To be perfectly honest with you I believe that what is there is common to nearly ''all'' recognized definitions of the word. If we look at <s> as an example</s>(bad example) of definitions then the intro doesn't seem off. ] 20:29, 20 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :*I have seen a definition or two that was sooner from a neutral and reliable source (ie: like a known dictionary) but I'm not sure where they are right now (I'd have to re-research them) but from what I recall the intro as it stands wasn't too far off from what I previously read. ] 20:32, 20 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::*The Oxford Dictionary of English (ODE) (copyrighted 2003), included on the Casio XD-H9200 electronic dictionary says: "''Islamophobia > noun a hatred or fear of Islam or Muslims, especially as a political force.''" ] 21:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::* You had better cite the date in your editing because it is possible that their definition has changed since then... I really don't know. ] 21:45, 21 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::* Please revert back to the ''Examples of use in public discourse'' if ] tries to remove it... It's essential that Misplaced Pages maintain its ''distance'' from the term if it is ever to remain neutral about it. ] 23:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Karl, in terms of supporting your editing relative to the "islamophobia" neologism please be aware of these guidelines and cited them as necessary: ]. ] 08:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Karl, I see edit warring with Irishpunktom is happening now. You both should stop immediately while bearing in mind ]'s warning to both of you. ] 08:59, 22 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::Karl, I'm inclined to agree with you but now the time has come for us to make attempts at dispute resolution. How would you feel about asking ] to try and help us come to some agreement on these issues? ] 09:10, 22 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Ok, I've just put in for ] while we engage the dispute resolution process. ] 09:32, 22 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I understand but remember no one's prevented from editing until it's protected. ] 09:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::As ] has just demonstrated. ] 09:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::Karl, I appreciate your report but unfortunately it's not going to help. Would you kindly (and in good faith) remove your 3RR report as ] has in ''good faith'' agreed to ]?Thanks. ] 10:10, 22 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Based upon Irishpunktom's use of the word ''racist'' in your regard I will understand if you do not decide to remove the above 3RR report but still think that it would help. Please know that I've responded to Irsihpunktom's use of the word on his talk page (Under the "islamophobia" section). He's defintiely '''very wrong''' in his utilization of that word. ] 10:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :In accord with ] I have struck ]'s personal attack utilization of the word "racist" in your regard on my user page. ] 10:41, 22 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| === WP:PAIN === | |||
| Short and easy: Go to dispute resolution. I've told IPK that he should avoid mentioning you ''at all'' outside some very narrow confines, but from his comments elsewhere he's ready for mediation. Take him up on it. - ]<span class="plainlinks"></span> 13:03, 22 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Latino Muslims == | |||
| == Can you look at this == | |||
| You added a referenece that is not in English, therefore not verviable. It will be removed. ] 14:58, 29 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/Amin_al-Husayni and pass on to anyone who might be intersted. check talk and history pages. Tnx. ] 12:22, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Can you please direct me to policy that says that all sources used has to be in English? -- ] 11:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Joturner == | |||
| :::Sources must be checkable for readers of this encyclopaedia. Which is in English. Please do not include sources that are not in English and do not have readily available translations. ] 08:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::If we need a source to be checked, then we can just ask one of the editors that is able to read and understand the given language. That should be no problem. Also, there is no policy that says that a source has to be in English for us to use it here. -- ] 17:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == No personal attacks == | |||
| Thought you might be interested to have a look at . --] 08:27, 19 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I have absolutely no idea what your comment refers to. And I have no idea who you are. Kindly do not threaten me again. And dude, don't be writing to me using a template. I'm a long-term, good-faith editor of this encyclopaedia. If you think that's the right way to treat contributors, you need to rethink. ] 08:34, 31 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for mentioning this to me. I appreciate it. -- ] 09:07, 19 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Karl, you need to rethink your model of collaboration and communication. Until you've had that rethink, I don't think we have anything further to discuss. ] 02:15, 5 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| Thanks for reverting to a version the introduction that I introduced earlier today. Not sure about your accusations though. ] 20:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==RfC on ]== | |||
| ==Template:Islam== | |||
| Hi Karl. As you have participated at the regarding the behaviour of the abovementioned user, i just wanted to let you know that I opened an ] on themselves in response to the concerns raised during the discussion at the ANI. The RfC is located ]. -- ] - <small>]</small> 10:05, 6 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I guess you missed the reason I gave for including the image. Please read ], if you disagree with the points I have given in the talk page, please indicate it below the comments I have made. I again qoute from the wikipedia policy page, "Note that consensus can only work among '''reasonable editors''' who make a '''good faith''' effort to work together to accurately and appropriately describe the different views on the subject." If you want a vote count (which is considered evil according to ])I had equal number of editors "for it" and "Not for" and two editors who doesn't mind either. if you assume good faith on your part we can consider these neutral users would be fine with the changes as longs as the new image is not compromising any of the required traits of a logo. So still in the grounds of assuming good faith the majority of the editors are fine with the image. Even the editors who have said the image change is not okay, agree that the image is aesthetically better than the current one. This is only a kind reminder and request. ] <sup><font size="-2">]</font></sup> 17:41, 21 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi again Karl. Have you had a look at ? -- ] - <small>]</small> 17:45, 6 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yes, I noticed it. I guess that his clarifications regarding the issue was what was needed, and that this should solve the dispute and settle the matter. -- ] 17:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::That's correct. -- ] - <small>]</small> 17:57, 6 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| Do your definition of good faith efforts towards dispute resolution include calling people racists? Irishpunktom is obviously trolling, and is surely not making any good faith efforts as it is also obvious from the diffs provided in the 3rr report, and the following personal attacks against me. -- ] 10:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| I am working on a rewrite of the ] at ] would value your comments on this, and especially any references you can add. ] 13:19, 12 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| == Your reverts == | |||
| Karl, please explain what do you mean by this edit summary say . --] 08:29, 13 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::That he tried to bury the fact that Muhammad starting using her for sexual purposes, by replacing the more well known English term "concubine" with the more technical term "what his right hand possesses", which the average reader is not likely to be familiar with. To restore concubine and wiki-link it to Ma malakat aymanukum would be good for starters. -- ] 08:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::The first one I can very well assure you is a written and explicit part of the account given by Abu Lubaba in Ibn Ishaq translated by Guillaume. The second one, right hand possess, does not translate or define as concubine. Three, the account in ibn Ishaq translated by Guillaume also does not state implicitly or explicitly any understanding that she was a concubine, just another prisoner of war taken by the Muslims, i.e. what right hand possess more correctly means. BTW, right hand possess is linked to its page so there should be no confusion. ] 11:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| ] does not mean you can misrepresent sources. I think you know exactly what you are doing and I am going to take out a user RFC for this. You could have explained your edits on the talk page but have not bothered to do so. ] 14:21, 13 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::If you believe that anything there is being misrepresented, then correct that without violating NPOV and WP:BLP. The version that you insist on reverting to is absolutely unbalanced. Another thing don't come to my talk page and make threats. If you feel like spending your time writing RfC's, then you can do that, but don't ever come here again and make threats against me. -- ] 16:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::I'm awfully sorry, but I really do think you should substantiate that belief on the talkpage. I'm afraid a couple of your reverts got me to break 3RR, though I reverted myself immediately, of course. I do invite you to respond to the remarks that are outstanding on the article talkpage, particularly the availability of alternative views, the possibility of refactoring the section, and the relevance of ArbCom precedent. I won't be on WP for some time, (since I've clearly been doing too much!) so I'm sure I'll see a response when I get back. | |||
| :::Cheers! ] 16:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I and other editors have already substantiated and explained what is wrong with your edits on the articles discussion page. On major problem is that they are in violation of WP:BLP. Also, no one is making you violate 3RR, and as I can see that you have been blocked for 3RR violations before and also quite recently, it is reasonable to expect that you are aware of the rule. If you don't like 3RR blocks then the solution is very simple: Don't violate the rule. -- ] 18:18, 14 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Abdul Rahman== | |||
| Karl Maier why did you remove sourced and relevant content? | |||
| As you know, wikipedia is not censored. If you have legitimate objections, please state them on talk.] 19:56, 23 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Read WP:BLP, and my comment on the discussion page. -- ] 20:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Thanks Karl..for standing up for neutrality and against the removal of sourced factual content on ]. unfortunately, some editors have recently removed, moved or censored factual content (all sourced) to change the article to a certain POV. There is little discussion with most of it going to a different tangent for no apparant reason and also some editors making you repeat your points again and again. There is certainly no consensus as a couple of editors other than me have voiced their concerns in the past. It becomes difficult for editors who want to keep factual accuracy with such edits. I tried to revert them but since they are more than one, I am sure that they will use the policies like ] to get me blocked. This article really needs some good editors. Thanks for your support. ] 14:23, 30 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Silent Vigil== | |||
| {{User:Prester John/Userbox/Free Matt}} | |||
| I am giving away this userbox as a sign of solidarity with our good friend Matt57. The gross injustice purportrated against him shall be met with peaceful non-violent protest. Please place on your userpage until this excessive and unjust ban is reversed. ] <sup> -(])</sup> 07:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::That is a good idea. I added it right away. We should not let them get away with their misbehavior, and I hope that Matt will be back right after the days that he has left of this ridicules block. -- ] 11:06, 2 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| == Your message to me == | |||
| Karl, what edit are you referring to? Thanks. ] (]) 20:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Do I? ] (]) 22:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::OK you mean the Ibn Baz thing. He was notable but the source that purports to give his view in no way meets WP standards. Don't see why you came to my talk page when this was a matter for the article talk page, and please be careful not to use language that could be construed as threatening. I suggest we both trust Itaqallah to get it right; he has an excellent understanding of scholarly sources on Islam. ] (]) 22:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Please don't try to construct false allegations about me being somehow "threatening". As for Islam Q and A, it is a source which several important and notable Islamic scholars support and guarantee for the quality of, and I suggest that you provide some arguments for you claim it "in no way meets WP standards". -- ] (]) 10:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ANI thread == | |||
| About you . - ] (]) 21:57, 20 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :To the extent anyone not involved commented, I think the consensus was close to my comment. ArbComm has said that the practice of using edit summaries to discuss changes is not enough discussion, especially when reverting. Please make more use of talk pages to explain and actively seek compromises that can become a consensus. ] 14:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| <br> Dear Karl Meier, at this season of THE WINTER SOLSTICE, may reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven, no hell. There is only the natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that harden hearts and enslaves minds. </br> | |||
| Kirbytime sen't me this a year ago, and I liked it. So Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, or whatever you celebrate, and see you next year. '''] ]''' 00:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Aisha== | |||
| Hey Karl, you've weighed in at ] before, and the age issues are coming back up again with some new editors. It's exactly the same as before: editors trying to use Islamic scholars to "prove" that Aisha was older than 9. The scholars they're using are more legit this go round but it still smells like a POV-push to me.--] ]/] 03:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == William Wain Prior == | |||
| I was just wondering, sir, if you knew whether the Danish WWII general William Wain Prior was of English ancestry. The name is very English. | |||
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BEN HEINE SPEAKING: MAY I ASK WHY YOU DELETED MY WIKIPEDIA ENTRY? THIS IS NOT FAIR! THE ENTRY HAD BEEN WRITTEN AGAIN AND RE DOWNLOADED BY OTHER PEOPLE AND YOU STILL KEEP DELETING IT. WHO ARE YOU? CONTACT ME HERE : heinebenjamin@hotmail.com Ben Heine —Preceding unsigned comment added by BenHeine (talk • contribs) 22:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Qur'anic quote
BrandonYusufToropov, Karl Meier has removed material from your user page which some editors will surely find offensive.
It is (at least) uncivil to threaten other editors with eternal torment in Hell. This is being discussed on WP:ANI if you are interested in chiming in.
Please do not restore this material; it violates WP:USER and leads to hard feelings without improving the encyclopedia.
More generally, refraining from partisan pronouncements will spare you pointless controversy, help ensure that your contributions are judged according to their merit, and help us all get along.Proabivouac 07:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- I've asked repeatedly whether it might not have been better simply to have left a civility-affirming request that I remove this quote, and I have gotten either silence or doubletalk in response. I would have been glad to do take it off if someone had taken the trouble to discuss the matter with me. Perhaps Karl Meier, or yourself, or whoever started this little P.C. undertaking could see fit to offer an apology for peremptorily messing with my userpage.
- This was the first complaint I ever received about the passage. Is there any other text on my userpage I should expect the Powers That Be to edit for me? BYT 13:12, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Latino Muslims
You added a referenece that is not in English, therefore not verviable. It will be removed. Padishah5000 14:58, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- Can you please direct me to policy that says that all sources used has to be in English? -- Karl Meier 11:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- Sources must be checkable for readers of this encyclopaedia. Which is in English. Please do not include sources that are not in English and do not have readily available translations. Grace Note 08:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- If we need a source to be checked, then we can just ask one of the editors that is able to read and understand the given language. That should be no problem. Also, there is no policy that says that a source has to be in English for us to use it here. -- Karl Meier 17:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Sources must be checkable for readers of this encyclopaedia. Which is in English. Please do not include sources that are not in English and do not have readily available translations. Grace Note 08:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Can you please direct me to policy that says that all sources used has to be in English? -- Karl Meier 11:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
No personal attacks
I have absolutely no idea what your comment refers to. And I have no idea who you are. Kindly do not threaten me again. And dude, don't be writing to me using a template. I'm a long-term, good-faith editor of this encyclopaedia. If you think that's the right way to treat contributors, you need to rethink. Grace Note 08:34, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Karl, you need to rethink your model of collaboration and communication. Until you've had that rethink, I don't think we have anything further to discuss. Grace Note 02:15, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for reverting to a version the introduction that I introduced earlier today. Not sure about your accusations though. Addhoc 20:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
RfC on User:Mike18xx
Hi Karl. As you have participated at the ANI discussion regarding the behaviour of the abovementioned user, i just wanted to let you know that I opened an RfC on themselves in response to the concerns raised during the discussion at the ANI. The RfC is located here. -- FayssalF - 10:05, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Hi again Karl. Have you had a look at this? -- FayssalF - 17:45, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I noticed it. I guess that his clarifications regarding the issue was what was needed, and that this should solve the dispute and settle the matter. -- Karl Meier 17:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- That's correct. -- FayssalF - 17:57, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I noticed it. I guess that his clarifications regarding the issue was what was needed, and that this should solve the dispute and settle the matter. -- Karl Meier 17:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
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- I have agreed to the mediation. -- Karl Meier 20:41, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
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Thank you!
Thank you for reverting an appearent sock-puppy at Historical persecution by Muslims. Best regards, Hamster Sandwich 16:40, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
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Religion of Peace
I am working on a rewrite of the Religion of Peace at User:Mike Young/Sandbox2 would value your comments on this, and especially any references you can add. Mike Young 13:19, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
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Your reverts
Karl, please explain what do you mean by this edit summary say . --Aminz 08:29, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- That he tried to bury the fact that Muhammad starting using her for sexual purposes, by replacing the more well known English term "concubine" with the more technical term "what his right hand possesses", which the average reader is not likely to be familiar with. To restore concubine and wiki-link it to Ma malakat aymanukum would be good for starters. -- Karl Meier 08:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- The first one I can very well assure you is a written and explicit part of the account given by Abu Lubaba in Ibn Ishaq translated by Guillaume. The second one, right hand possess, does not translate or define as concubine. Three, the account in ibn Ishaq translated by Guillaume also does not state implicitly or explicitly any understanding that she was a concubine, just another prisoner of war taken by the Muslims, i.e. what right hand possess more correctly means. BTW, right hand possess is linked to its page so there should be no confusion. Jedi Master MIK 11:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- That he tried to bury the fact that Muhammad starting using her for sexual purposes, by replacing the more well known English term "concubine" with the more technical term "what his right hand possesses", which the average reader is not likely to be familiar with. To restore concubine and wiki-link it to Ma malakat aymanukum would be good for starters. -- Karl Meier 08:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Bat Ye'or
WP:BLP does not mean you can misrepresent sources. I think you know exactly what you are doing and I am going to take out a user RFC for this. You could have explained your edits on the talk page but have not bothered to do so. Itsmejudith 14:21, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- If you believe that anything there is being misrepresented, then correct that without violating NPOV and WP:BLP. The version that you insist on reverting to is absolutely unbalanced. Another thing don't come to my talk page and make threats. If you feel like spending your time writing RfC's, then you can do that, but don't ever come here again and make threats against me. -- Karl Meier 16:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- I'm awfully sorry, but I really do think you should substantiate that belief on the talkpage. I'm afraid a couple of your reverts got me to break 3RR, though I reverted myself immediately, of course. I do invite you to respond to the remarks that are outstanding on the article talkpage, particularly the availability of alternative views, the possibility of refactoring the section, and the relevance of ArbCom precedent. I won't be on WP for some time, (since I've clearly been doing too much!) so I'm sure I'll see a response when I get back.
- Cheers! Hornplease 16:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- I and other editors have already substantiated and explained what is wrong with your edits on the articles discussion page. On major problem is that they are in violation of WP:BLP. Also, no one is making you violate 3RR, and as I can see that you have been blocked for 3RR violations before and also quite recently, it is reasonable to expect that you are aware of the rule. If you don't like 3RR blocks then the solution is very simple: Don't violate the rule. -- Karl Meier 18:18, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Abdul Rahman
Karl Maier why did you remove sourced and relevant content? As you know, wikipedia is not censored. If you have legitimate objections, please state them on talk.Bless sins 19:56, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Read WP:BLP, and my comment on the discussion page. -- Karl Meier 20:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Islam in the United States
Thanks Karl..for standing up for neutrality and against the removal of sourced factual content on Islam in the United States. unfortunately, some editors have recently removed, moved or censored factual content (all sourced) to change the article to a certain POV. There is little discussion with most of it going to a different tangent for no apparant reason and also some editors making you repeat your points again and again. There is certainly no consensus as a couple of editors other than me have voiced their concerns in the past. It becomes difficult for editors who want to keep factual accuracy with such edits. I tried to revert them but since they are more than one, I am sure that they will use the policies like WP:3RR to get me blocked. This article really needs some good editors. Thanks for your support. NapoleansSword 14:23, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Silent Vigil
User:Prester John/Userbox/Free Matt
I am giving away this userbox as a sign of solidarity with our good friend Matt57. The gross injustice purportrated against him shall be met with peaceful non-violent protest. Please place on your userpage until this excessive and unjust ban is reversed. Prester John 07:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- That is a good idea. I added it right away. We should not let them get away with their misbehavior, and I hope that Matt will be back right after the days that he has left of this ridicules block. -- Karl Meier 11:06, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
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Your message to me
Karl, what edit are you referring to? Thanks. Itsmejudith (talk) 20:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- Do I? Itsmejudith (talk) 22:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- OK you mean the Ibn Baz thing. He was notable but the source that purports to give his view in no way meets WP standards. Don't see why you came to my talk page when this was a matter for the article talk page, and please be careful not to use language that could be construed as threatening. I suggest we both trust Itaqallah to get it right; he has an excellent understanding of scholarly sources on Islam. Itsmejudith (talk) 22:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Please don't try to construct false allegations about me being somehow "threatening". As for Islam Q and A, it is a source which several important and notable Islamic scholars support and guarantee for the quality of, and I suggest that you provide some arguments for you claim it "in no way meets WP standards". -- Karl Meier (talk) 10:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
ANI thread
About you here. - Merzbow (talk) 21:57, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- To the extent anyone not involved commented, I think the consensus was close to my comment. ArbComm has said that the practice of using edit summaries to discuss changes is not enough discussion, especially when reverting. Please make more use of talk pages to explain and actively seek compromises that can become a consensus. GRBerry 14:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
Dear Karl Meier, at this season of THE WINTER SOLSTICE, may reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven, no hell. There is only the natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that harden hearts and enslaves minds.
Kirbytime sen't me this a year ago, and I liked it. So Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, or whatever you celebrate, and see you next year. Yahel Guhan 00:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Aisha
Hey Karl, you've weighed in at Aisha before, and the age issues are coming back up again with some new editors. It's exactly the same as before: editors trying to use Islamic scholars to "prove" that Aisha was older than 9. The scholars they're using are more legit this go round but it still smells like a POV-push to me.--Cúchullain /c 03:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
William Wain Prior
I was just wondering, sir, if you knew whether the Danish WWII general William Wain Prior was of English ancestry. The name is very English.
Have a nice day!60.48.109.53 (talk) 17:29, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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